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NightRider
10-25-2004, 08:54 AM
The site has a complete new look to it...please check it out.

I have a few problems to sort out....as i thought i would :lol:
Its the first one i have totally designed myself....and i have to fix a few things :'( .....but i am sure i will get there :blink: :)

The biggest fault at the moment is the alignment...don't quite know what i did wrong there...but i am working on it :blush:

Man...i'll be so glad to get back to designing covers..... (y)

SouthPaw
10-25-2004, 09:00 AM
very nice.

NightRider
10-25-2004, 09:08 AM
very nice.

Thanks SouthPaw (y)

A few more hours....days :blink: and i might get it sorted :lol:

NightRider
10-25-2004, 09:24 AM
Hot ****, one good looking website Chris!, mighty fine work there. (y)

One thing mate, why do i have to scroll to the right so much....that don?t really make sense to me. :hmm:

Thats one thing that i am trying to fix Ron....i designed it on a widescreen laptop...bad idea :lol: Now i gotta figure out how to move it all over :supriced: I'll figure it out...still a relative newie to dreamweaver :P

Glad you like the new look though (y)

spinout-designs
10-25-2004, 09:24 AM
:hmm: when I checked i got .............. 404 - File not found

Have you removed newmain.htm ?

NightRider
10-25-2004, 09:28 AM
:hmm: when I checked i got .............. 404 - File not found

Have you removed newmain.htm ?


No.....its still there...though it may be Newmain now... :blink: i may have to work on that too then :P

Lonniebealestreet
10-25-2004, 09:32 AM
That alignment issue aside, the site looks fantastic, Chris! (y)

NightRider
10-25-2004, 09:35 AM
That alignment issue aside, the site looks fantastic, Chris! (y)

Thanks Bobby....i hope to get that sorted..... :cursing: :crash: :construct ...at some point soon :lol:

Lonniebealestreet
10-25-2004, 09:38 AM
You're welcome. I'm sure you will. (h)

kennyelvis
10-25-2004, 09:44 AM
Looking good my friend (y)
So you think it is hard work :P
It`s **** hard Chris, at times when i work on my site, with an big picture update, and having my son all over me, my girlfriend yelling at me......bla bla bla... and i still sitting resizing pictures, i totaly forget what i do, it could have been Donal Duck pix i was working with, i dont see the pix, only what size i should have them made in.
Same goes for the reviews, a few days ago my review man "Gordon" got an mp3 version of the new Memory release "Gypsy Style" and last night i got the review in an email, i have been working on it today, it`s all ready to be uploaded right now, but i have yet to read it myself :clap:

But Chris, The new look are great, i like it :)
So keep up your good work CHAMP :D

Elvisgirl
10-25-2004, 10:21 AM
it looks absolutely fantastic (y) i love it :)

NightRider
10-25-2004, 10:28 AM
Looking good my friend (y)
So you think it is hard work :P
It`s **** hard Chris, at times when i work on my site, with an big picture update, and having my son all over me, my girlfriend yelling at me......bla bla bla... and i still sitting resizing pictures, i totaly forget what i do, it could have been Donal Duck pix i was working with, i dont see the pix, only what size i should have them made in.
Same goes for the reviews, a few days ago my review man "Gordon" got an mp3 version of the new Memory release "Gypsy Style" and last night i got the review in an email, i have been working on it today, it`s all ready to be uploaded right now, but i have yet to read it myself :clap:

But Chris, The new look are great, i like it :)
So keep up your good work CHAMP :D

Thanks Kenny...we must all be friggin' crazy do you think :lol:

I will spend a few hours on it later on...try and get it right....glad you like the new look mate (y)

NightRider
10-25-2004, 10:29 AM
it looks absolutely fantastic (y) i love it :)

Thanks Elvisgirl... (y)

Elvisgirl
10-25-2004, 11:01 AM
you're welcome :)
hard to tell you're new at this it looks so professional (y)

Hans
10-25-2004, 11:29 AM
sharp looking website and great covers...! You really do justice to our hero, great work.

NightRider
10-25-2004, 01:05 PM
sharp looking website and great covers...! You really do justice to our hero, great work.

Thanks Hans....glad you like the new look (y)


you're welcome
hard to tell you're new at this it looks so professional

Thanks again Elvisgirl....i can assure you i'm no profesional at Dreamweaver :P .....but very slowly getting to know it... ;)

buttonhead
10-25-2004, 01:45 PM
it looks great chris (y) i love it alot... (y)
now you can go back to make more artwork...as i always said keep them coming :)

NightRider
10-25-2004, 03:38 PM
it looks great chris (y) i love it alot... (y)
now you can go back to make more artwork...as i always said keep them coming :)


Thanks Dessy....i'll try and get some more covers done in the near future....glad you like the new look (y)

spinout-designs
10-25-2004, 03:52 PM
Aside from the layout issues some very promising new content, enjoyed the movies area. After a visit to your website I guess now we know how you've had so many new avatars recently (y)

and yeah it was Newmain.htm not newmain.htm, darned case sensetive urls :lol:

NightRider
10-25-2004, 04:02 PM
Aside from the layout issues some very promising new content, enjoyed the movies area. After a visit to your website I guess now we know how you've had so many new avatars recently (y)

and yeah it was Newmain.htm not newmain.htm, darned case sensetive urls :lol:

I guess that did give it away a tad ;) :P

I am still trying to work out those layouts....but struggling a little to change what i already have...it would be a shame to have to change the whole thing :supriced: will have to see what tomorrow brings.... :hmm:

Still...glad you liked the new look....thanks Mark (y)

NightRider
10-26-2004, 04:46 AM
The site will be off-line in a couple of hours...have had to make a few changes to right the alignment issue's....but i think its just about there now......should be back on-line later this afternoon.....when it is....i would appreciate your views....hopefully will be ok whatever screen resolution you are using...this time :P

NightRider
10-26-2004, 07:13 AM
The new...new site is now up...hope you like it (y)

Albert
10-26-2004, 07:40 AM
Looking great! (y)

One advise: using frames is heavily disadvised (just read this (http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html) site for example, or Google's website instructions).

9 out of 10 times google will send someone to just 1 page and not the whole frameset. So when someone visits your site, coming from Google (or any searchengine), he/she won't see frames, but only the lowerpage (the one with the content). And since the navigation is in the topframe (that the visitor doesn't have), he/she can't visit other pages on the site.

There are a few sollutions if you choose to keep on working with frames: place a link on the bottom to the page with the frameset (Newmain.htm). This way when people are stuck on the bottompage, the can reload the frames by clicking on that link. Also a link on the bottom (this page is in a frameset, click here to reload) can solve this.

Another option is to add a script to the page. As soon as a page is loaded outside the frameset (like with entering the site by Google), the page will be re-loaded but inside the original frameset.

NightRider
10-26-2004, 07:54 AM
Looking great! (y)

One advise: using frames is heavily disadvised (just read this (http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html) site for example, or Google's website instructions).

9 out of 10 times google will send someone to just 1 page and not the whole frameset. So when someone visits your site, coming from Google (or any searchengine), he/she won't see frames, but only the lowerpage (the one with the content). And since the navigation is in the topframe (that the visitor doesn't have), he/she can't visit other pages on the site.

There are a few sollutions if you choose to keep on working with frames: place a link on the bottom to the page with the frameset (Newmain.htm). This way when people are stuck on the bottompage, the can reload the frames by clicking on that link. Also a link on the bottom (this page is in a frameset, click here to reload) can solve this.

Another option is to add a script to the page. As soon as a page is loaded outside the frameset (like with entering the site by Google), the page will be re-loaded but inside the original frameset.

Thanks Albert,

Now though you have me even more confused :blink: I have just re-designed it for the second time :(

I think the easiest way would be to put a HOME link on the bottom of all the pages :hmm:

I have no idea about the script option..so that probably the best option......

Albert
10-26-2004, 08:14 AM
That's a good option. It really helps you to keep the people on the site. Otherwise they can't navigate further through your site. You already have some good Google results (link (http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:+tcb-world.com/nightrider/&hl=nl&lr=&filter=0)) (y)

NightRider
10-26-2004, 09:16 AM
That's a good option. It really helps you to keep the people on the site. Otherwise they can't navigate further through your site. You already have some good Google results (link (http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:+tcb-world.com/nightrider/&hl=nl&lr=&filter=0)) (y)

Thanks for the info Albert.....i have added a link to each page as you suggested....so hopefully that should solve that problem (y)

Elvisgirl
10-26-2004, 09:19 AM
fantastic! (y)

NightRider
10-26-2004, 09:24 AM
fantastic! (y)

Thanks once again Elvisgirl.....i appreciate that :clap:

Elvisgirl
10-26-2004, 12:03 PM
you're welcome :smile:

Albert
10-26-2004, 12:36 PM
There is nothing wrong with using frames, all big companies in the world use frames. It speeded up your page a lot, and that?s bottom line! :P

No Unchained, you're wrong there... There's hardly any big company website that uses frames. Sure there will be a few, but those are the minority.

And the speed excuses is wrong also. All modern browsers are caching images. So as long as the mainbanner on a page is linked to the same image, the user don't need to load it everytime they visit a new page within the homepage.

And if you read all the information about submitting links to searcheninges, you'll see that those crawlers/spiders (like MSNbot, googlebot, etc.) disadvice to use frames.

Sites on frames:
taming the beast (http://www.tamingthebeast.net/articles/framesnoframes.htm)
html4.com (http://www.html4.com/mime/markup/php/standards_en/html_misuses_en/html_misuses_21.php)
webdevelopment.com (http://webdevelopment.developersnetwork.com/Articles.asp?Article=120) (not a small site)
designandcreate.com (http://www.designandcreate.com/articles3.php)
christian-web-masters.com (http://www.christian-web-masters.com/articles/web_frames-design.html) (yep, that site exists)

Just go to the websites of the biggest brands in the world, from sony to mcdonalds, from msn to google, from Amazon to MTV and from coca cola to Disney. None of those websites use frames. Should be convincing enough :D

But... using frames my be a good thing, as long as you keep an eye on all those disadvantages.

P.S. Annie
10-26-2004, 01:55 PM
congratulations Chris, good looking site! It's hard work to get how you want it, I admire everyone who does not throw his PC out of the window during that process :lol:

NightRider
10-26-2004, 01:57 PM
congratulations Chris, good looking site! It's hard work to get how you want it, I admire everyone who does not throw his PC out of the window during that process :lol:


Thanks Anoushka.... (y)

Came very close a couple of times though :lol:

P.S. Annie
10-26-2004, 02:01 PM
Well I'm glad you didnt :D By the way I see that you are in the jungleroom, that is my favourite room, I'm not jealous........................ :blink: ;)

NightRider
10-26-2004, 03:37 PM
Well I'm glad you didnt :D By the way I see that you are in the jungleroom, that is my favourite room, I'm not jealous........................ :blink: ;)


I believe you ;) :lol:

Its a great place to be....i am sure you will get there...(if thats where you would choose to be ;) ) (y)