Graceland expansion canceled?

[Tigerman_69]

Interesting developments overnight. I guess we can prepare ourselves for another decade of rundown areas surrounding the most recognizable home in America and still no true salute to Elvis and his legacy.:'(

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=9591730&nav=menu59_2_6

[TotallyInsane]

awwww, shucks!!!!

[KPM]

Interesting developments overnight. I guess we can prepare ourselves for another decade of rundown areas surrounding the most recognizable home in America and still no true salute to Elvis and his legacy.:'(

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=9591730&nav=menu59_2_6
You seem very interested in this one subject?
Like I said to hinge thoughts of urban redevelopement and crime reduction mainly on one private enterprise and its plans is fruitless- instead the communitity itself should be responsible for the direction of the state, city, etc....they live in. It is hard work-and takes more than wishing.
The "salute to Elvis and his legacy is in the home itself" and in the music he made, the films he made and his contributions to the world through his music.
IMO Nothing was lost- its all still there.

[Tigerman_69]

You seem very interested in this one subject?
Like I said to hinge thoughts of urban redevelopement and crime reduction mainly on one private enterprise and its plans is fruitless- instead the communitity itself should be responsible for the direction of the state, city, etc....they live in. It is hard work-and takes more than wishing.
The "salute to Elvis and his legacy is in the home itself" and in the music he made, the films he made and his contributions to the world through his music.
IMO Nothing was lost- its all still there.

I'm interested because it could effect Graceland's future of safety. You obviously don't understand that or you would be concerned for it as well. The expansion would have brought a better safer atmosphere to the area. All I want for Graceland is a museum that actually tells the story and pays tribute to his life and career. Is that so hard for some to understand? If you're a fan you should want that as well. The city should want that to better the economy and redevelop the area. Obviously it's not as important as originally thought to be.:'(

The cancellation or postponement will hurt Memphis and Graceland altogether.

[KPM]

I'm interested because it could effect Graceland's future of safety. You obviously don't understand that or you would be concerned for it as well. The expansion would have brought a better safer atmosphere to the area. All I want for Graceland is a museum that actually tells the story and pays tribute to his life and career. Is that so hard for some to understand? If you're a fan you should want that as well. The city should want that to better the economy and redevelop the area. Obviously it's not as important as originally thought to be.:'(

The cancellation or postponement will hurt Memphis and Graceland altogether.
I am a fan! But I see this totally different on the "quick" need for a museum or a huge center of some sort.
Why is it so hard to see-the mansion itself as it stand this very minute is a museum in itself.It houses his legacy, it houses his essence IMO It does not have a huge state of the art set up-it is what it is.
Now it may not be your idea of a museum but it is.
Graceland can always double their security and work on it from that standpoint. If enough people complain who visit-if enough problems seem to arise I'm sure they will address it. They can not police the neighborhoods nearby, nor control crime in general-that is unrealistic.
Once again I am a fan-but see this very different than you do obviously.
It will continue on and people will still visit.

[utmom2008]

Why is it so hard to see-the mansion itself as it stand this very minute is a museum in itself.It houses his legacy, it houses his essence IMO It does not have a huge state of the art set up-it is what it is.
Now it may not be your idea of a museum but it is.

I completely agree with you Ken. This is starting to sound like a broken record, it takes me back to LAST winter when this same topic was debated over and over and over.;);) What do people think "Graceland" is if it's not a "museum" and a "tribute" to Elvis???:doh::doh::doh::doh:

[utmom2008]

IMO Nothing was lost- its all still there.

It's still there...and the fans will keep flocking to Memphis. The ONLY reason people may postpone a Memphis trip is because of the economy...not because of Sillerman and his so-called vast improvements.:blink::blink:

[presley31]

I don't see why we need so many threads about this?. does it really matter? its not like they touching graceland itself.

[Tigerman_69]

I just think from the way the area around it is deteriorating day by day that now that there's not going to be any expansion means no redevelopment by local investors not related to EPE's plans. What most of you aren't understanding is that the expansion was to lead to bigger things for the area. For instance, a major company looking to make a profit isn't going to invest into a dangerous crime dominated area. Unfortunately Graceland sits in a bad part of town whereas Fed Ex sits in the more industrial commercial side of Whitehaven next to the International Airport.

Whitehaven needs Graceland to expand and Graceland needs Whitehaven to be cleaned up. But it looks like neither will be happening anytime soon and that's a shame.

[TotallyInsane]

Darn - no Disneyland at Graceland again!!!!!

[presley31]

I just think from the way the area around it is deteriorating day by day that now that there's not going to be any expansion means no redevelopment by local investors not related to EPE's plans. What most of you aren't understanding is that the expansion was to lead to bigger things for the area. For instance, a major company looking to make a profit isn't going to invest into a dangerous crime dominated area. Unfortunately Graceland sits in a bad part of town whereas Fed Ex sits in the more industrial commercial side of Whitehaven next to the International Airport.

Whitehaven needs Graceland to expand and Graceland needs Whitehaven to be cleaned up. But it looks like neither will be happening anytime soon and that's a shame.

we not worried for the simple fact there is more stuff going on in the world than worrying about some expansions.

[Tigerman_69]

Darn - no Disneyland at Graceland again!!!!!
Believe me I'm not losing any sleep over that part.:lol: To be fair to EPE though, it was the local media that dubbed the expansion "Disney-like". Memphis media is really bad at doing that. We get their news and tv here where I live and I'm always hearing contradictory and fabrications from the media there. They seem to thrive on the negativity of the city such as crime corruption and major proposed projects falling through such as Graceland and the Pyramid Park.

[TotallyInsane]

[QUOTE=Tigerman_69;272971]Believe me I'm not losing any sleep over that part.:lol: To be fair to EPE though, it was the local media that dubbed the expansion "Disney-like". Memphis media is really bad at doing that. We get their news and tv here where I live and I'm always hearing contradictory and fabrications from the media there. They seem to thrive on the negativity of the city such as crime corruption and major proposed projects falling through such as Graceland and the Pyramid Park.QUOTE]

It must be catching!

[utmom2008]

What most of you aren't understanding is that the expansion was to lead to bigger things for the area.

Trust us....we do understand. We used to have a member here that told us this about 10 times a day.:blush::blink:

[Tigerman_69]

I don't understand what the uneasiness is towards Robert Sillerman and his plans. It's not like the guy has said "we're going to remodel the inside of Graceland and build new technologies inside the home then we're going to build a theme park outside of the land". I'm not his biggest fan only because he's promised so much and not delivered a thing. I;ve been against him getting everyones hopes up for a big expansion that more than likely will never happen in this lifetime.

But having said that, I don't get why this is the only forum on the net where it is a sin to mention his name? There's actually excitement, or was until this news, over at the other forums. Believe it or not there are quite a few fans who want to see this proposed expansion become reality. But the current economy thanks to Bush has killed that dream for many including myself. All I ever wanted for Elvis was a Smithsonian style museum that HONORS the man and introduces him to a new crowd. but that looks bleek now. :(

[TotallyInsane]

Elvis doesn't need a museum to introduce him to new fans - HIS MUSIC DOES THAT!!!

[Wendy56]

Elvis doesn't need a museum to introduce him to new fans - HIS MUSIC DOES THAT!!!
You're right in this one. And if we add publicity EPE gets for Elvis in so many ways (super bowl, tv commercial, etc), there's no need to turn Graceland into another Disneyland.
I think fans would like to visit Graceland just like Elvis left it. :hmm:

[Getlo]

This is starting to sound like a broken record, it takes me back to LAST winter when this same topic was debated over and over and over.;);)

Yes, the topic - indeed the very wording - does have an awfully familiar ring to it.

It's a mystery ... :rolleyes:

[Tigerman_69]

Yes, the topic - indeed the very wording - does have an awfully familiar ring to it.

It's a mystery ... :rolleyes: The only reason I started this thread or topic in the first place was because it was breaking news on the Memphis news which I get here in Bolivar. Plus there was some other discussions about CKX merger with 19X falling through and I felt it was necessary to add to the discussion. Sorry if it doesn't meet yours and others approval on here.:rolleyes:

[utmom2008]

All I want for Graceland is a museum that actually tells the story and pays tribute to his life and career.


Elvis doesn't need a museum to introduce him to new fans - HIS MUSIC DOES THAT!!!


You're right in this one.
I think fans would like to visit Graceland just like Elvis left it. :hmm:

So which is it? First Elvis needs a museum, and now he doesn't need a museum.:blink::blink:

[utmom2008]

I don't understand what the uneasiness is towards Robert Sillerman and his plans.

I don't get why this is the only forum on the net where it is a sin to mention his name? There's actually excitement, or was until this news, over at the other forums. Believe it or not there are quite a few fans who want to see this proposed expansion become reality. But the current economy thanks to Bush has killed that dream for many including myself. All I ever wanted for Elvis was a Smithsonian style museum that HONORS the man and introduces him to a new crowd. but that looks bleek now. :(

I'm happy that the other forums are excited about Sillerman...good for them.;) This board grew tired of having Sillerman and his expansion plans crammed down our throats several times daily by the same member. It became unbearable, and resulted in that member being banned.

A Smithsonian style museum????? You just agreed with Gail that NO museum was needed.:blink::blink:

[Tigerman_69]

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I'm happy that the other forums are excited about Sillerman...good for them.;) This board grew tired of having Sillerman and his expansion plans crammed down our throats several times daily by the same member. It became unbearable, and resulted in that member being banned.

A Smithsonian style museum????? You just agreed with Gail that NO museum was needed.:blink::blink:

First of all nobody is making you look at those threads that say "Sillerman" or "EPE expansion" so that's your problem if you don't like what is said. In case you didn't see I wasn't the one who started half of them. It was Presley31 and she had every right to do so without yours or mine or anyone else' permission. If you don't like reading about this particular subject then don't read it. Simple as that. Why even comment on it? If I see a topic that doesn't appeal to my liking I simply go to the next without even waisting those precious seconds of life to read something I have no intentions to reply to. Therefor I have no reason to complain about it as you are this one.

Second, you aren't a mod so you don't have any say in what I or someone else posts on here unless it is offensive in which this is not.

And last, I didn't agree that there shouldn't be some type of new museum at Graceland. I am all for a new museum just not some tacky looking over-sized revamping of the area. Too much can take away from its (Graceland) beauty.

[utmom2008]

I don't understand what the uneasiness is towards Robert Sillerman and his plans.
But having said that, I don't get why this is the only forum on the net where it is a sin to mention his name? (




Second, you aren't a mod so you don't have any say in what I or someone else posts on here unless it is offensive in which this is not.



Re-read the posts. YOU asked why there is such uneasiness towards Sillerman, right? That is what you posted.:blink: I replied to your question. When you ask questions, you will generally get answers. Simple as that.;)

[utmom2008]

I don't see why we need so many threads about this?. does it really matter? its not like they touching graceland itself.


In case you didn't see I wasn't the one who started half of them. It was Presley31 and she had every right to do so without yours or mine or anyone else' permission.


:hmm: See Presley31's question above. I belive this is your thread.:hmm::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[KPM]

There is no way any museum in Memphis could be like the Smithsonian Institute Museum- it is to large, to expansive and is virtually endless in scope.
It houses millions of things from every walk of life-science, aviation, natural history, entertainment, zoology, space exploration etc, and it actually does research on hundreds of topics (with experiments)
A museum of some type may someday be added to Graceland-but its impossible for it to be Smithsonian in size or scope. IMO
The Smithsonian Institution is an educational and research institute and associated museum complex, administered and funded by the government of the United States and by funds from its endowment, contributions, and profits from its shops and its magazine. Most of its facilities are located in Washington, D.C., but its 19 museums, zoo, and 9 research centers include sites in New York City, Virginia, Panama, and elsewhere. It has over 136 million items in its collections,[1] publishes a monthly magazine named Smithsonian and employs the Smithsonian Police to protect visitors, staff and the property of the museums.......

[Diane]

Frankly I think Graceland can stand by itself as Elvis could...and I think Elvis would be quite upset at anything over elaborate taking over the mansion he loved. It's one thing if he himself decided to add or take away from his home but some corporation who is just out to make money over literally his dead body?

Diane

[Tigerman_69]

There is no way any museum in Memphis could be like the Smithsonian Institute Museum- it is to large, to expansive and is virtually endless in scope.
It houses millions of things from every walk of life-science, aviation, natural history, entertainment, zoology, space exploration etc, and it actually does research on hundreds of topics (with experiments)
A museum of some type may someday be added to Graceland-but its impossible for it to be Smithsonian in size or scope. IMO
The Smithsonian Institution is an educational and research institute and associated museum complex, administered and funded by the government of the United States and by funds from its endowment, contributions, and profits from its shops and its magazine. Most of its facilities are located in Washington, D.C., but its 19 museums, zoo, and 9 research centers include sites in New York City, Virginia, Panama, and elsewhere. It has over 136 million items in its collections,[1] publishes a monthly magazine named Smithsonian and employs the Smithsonian Police to protect visitors, staff and the property of the museums.......

Well explain the Memphis Rock & Soul Museum? It's done by the Smithsonian Institute and it's only in a 4 story building annexed to the downtown arena. Besides wasn't Sillerman planning to build an 80,000 sf museum as part of his plans? That's the only thing I cared about that he's mentioned so far because it actually included Elvis and his legacy. EPE has thousands of unseen artifacts sitting in an underground bomb proof building waiting to be displayed. But they can't because they don't have any room to do so. Why any fan wouldn't want to see them is beyond me.:hmm:

[Tigerman_69]

Frankly I think Graceland can stand by itself as Elvis could...and I think Elvis would be quite upset at anything over elaborate taking over the mansion he loved. It's one thing if he himself decided to add or take away from his home but some corporation who is just out to make money over literally his dead body?

Diane

For the thousandth time, nothing is happening to the mansion itself. All the expansion talk was for the newly acquired land next to the original property that he owned that EPE has been buying up for over 18 years now..
Why is this so hard for some to understand??:doh:

[presley31]

Just going to step in and defend myself since my name has been bought up. I didn't make all the threads about this kind of topic. I stated one cause it was news and than tigerman you made 2 new ones about the same thread l posted so please don't go around saying i stated half of them. No interest to me this thread.

[Tigerman_69]

Just going to step in and defend myself since my name has been bought up. I didn't make all the threads about this kind of topic. I stated one cause it was news and than tigerman you made 2 new ones about the same thread l posted so please don't go around saying i stated half of them. No interest to me this thread.

You started two threads out of 3 regarding Robert FX Sillerman and CKX 'Mike Talks To Sillerman About Graceland' and 'King of Content-More ON Sillerman'. I started only one and that was actually breaking news and related to the expansion plans. So yes you did start the majority of them. One of which was not even relevant and was done almost 2 years ago.:hmm:

The only reason I'm pointing this out is because some of you are trying to make me look like the villain and I wanted to defend myself. This is the exact reason also why i don't let my guard down on Internet forums and trust people.:mad:

[presley31]

You started two threads out of 3 regarding Robert FX Sillerman and CKX 'Mike Talks To Sillerman About Graceland' and King of Content-More ON Sillerman'. I started only one and that was actually breaking news and related to the expansion plans. So yes you did start the majority of them. One of which was not even relevant and was done almost 2 years ago.:hmm:

The only reason I'm pointing this out is because some of you are trying to make me look like the villain and I wanted to defend myself. This is the exact reason also why i don't let my guard down on Internet forums and trust people.:mad:

these are my posts l stated.

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=25584

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=25609

Correct myself l posted 2 vidoes. Don't see why you felt the need to open two threads about the same thing l posted?? why not just carry it on the same thread.

[Tigerman_69]

these are my posts l stated.

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=25584

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=25609

Correct myself l posted 2 vidoes. Don't see why you felt the need to open two threads about the same thing l posted.


Excuse me but I only made ONE (1) thread about this and only because it was BREAKING NEWS out of Memphis.

[presley31]

Excuse me but I only made ONE (1) thread about this and only because it was BREAKING NEWS out of Memphis.

go to seach and see how many times your breaking news have been talked about and you'll see it's not all recent news, but updated. Maybe you will see why people are sick to death with this topic.

[Tigerman_69]

go to seach and see how many times your breaking news have been talked about and you'll see it's not all recent news, but updated. Maybe you will see why people are sick to death with this topic.
You obviously have me mixed up with someone else because I didn't start making topic threads until just recently and only one of them was even about Graceland expansion. I don't get where you're getting your info from. And I did do a search. That's how I was able to determine that you started the majority of the topics on Sillerman. Just admit that you did and this can all be settled.:)

[presley31]

You obviously have me mixed up with someone else because I didn't start making topic threads until just recently and only one of them was even about Graceland expansion. I don't get where you're getting your info from. And I did do a search. That's how I was able to determine that you started the majority of the topics on Sillerman. Just admit that you did and this can all be settled.:)

Looks you didn't look far back

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=19076&highlight=graceland+plans
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=16261
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14847
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14802
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14155

Yep as you can l started them all:doh:

[Tigerman_69]

Looks you didn't look far back

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=19076&highlight=graceland+plans
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=16261
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14847
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14802
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=14155

Yep as you can l started them all:doh:

You ***** none of those are by me. Read the name on the title. They're all started by someone named EP75 and all from back in 07 at that. I didn't start posting on here until about a month ago. Next time read the username of a topic starter before accusing someone else of wrongdoings.:rolleyes:

[presley31]

You ***** none of those are by me. Read the name on the title. There all started by someone named EP75 and all from back in 07 at that. I didn't start posting on here until about a month ago. Next time read the username of a topic starter before accusing someone else of wrongdoings.:rolleyes:

I'am pointing out to you why members are sick of this topic and as me starting more threads about it..forgot it aint going to happen again.

i never accused you of being anybody, but proving to you l didn't start all these threads. so take and leave it cause i'am moving on.

[Tigerman_69]

I'am pointing out to you why members are sick of this topic and as me starting more threads about it..forgot it aint going to happen again.

i never accused you of being anybody, but proving to you l didn't start all these threads. so take and leave it cause i'am moving on.


OK I apologize for calling you an idot. I thought you were accusing me of making those postings or threads. I see now that you were saying that you weren't the only one doing it. I see your point. But out of all there's ever been here about this subject I've only posted on 3, your two and my one.:)

[presley31]

OK I apologize for calling you an idot. I thought you were accusing me of making those postings or threads. I see now that you were saying that you weren't the only one doing it. I see your point. But out of all there's ever been here about this subject I've only posted on 3, your two and my one.:)

apology accepted. I think we both are hard headed in trying to get our opinions accoss, but lets just shake on it and move on.

[KPM]

This is a "button pushing topic" people have very strong views on it-that is why even when people are not thrilled with the topic they will make their views known. As the expansion actually happens-we will all see it.
The idea of constant updates is senseless-because so far the bulk of those updates have not come to pass. I recall in 06-07 we were hearing that in as little as 18 months substantial construction would be done-has not come to pass.
For me its not the idea of expansion-it is the underlying idea that without Sillermans business savvy - their would be a crumbling of the legacy and memory of Elvis. Unfortunately in the past that was the implication I was getting.
That implication is a button pushing topic with me.
Sillerman did not sell Rock to the world-he did not sell all the records which set Gold Record standard and made chart history, he did not perform the ground breaking performances which launched a musical cultural revolution worldwide-Sillerman does not have the charisma which grabs people and usually keeps them a fan. His plans and money-are not the reason for the fans loving Elvis.
All of those things which made Elvis a legend- existed when Sillerman was a kid in short pants-all of those things survive regardless of expansions, renovations, or hype.

[KPM]

Well explain the Memphis Rock & Soul Museum? It's done by the Smithsonian Institute and it's only in a 4 story building annexed to the downtown arena. Besides wasn't Sillerman planning to build an 80,000 sf museum as part of his plans? That's the only thing I cared about that he's mentioned so far because it actually included Elvis and his legacy. EPE has thousands of unseen artifacts sitting in an underground bomb proof building waiting to be displayed. But they can't because they don't have any room to do so. Why any fan wouldn't want to see them is beyond me.:hmm:
Exactly. It is a part of the Smithsonian Institute?

[Diane]

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Diane

[Tigerman_69]

Exactly. It is a part of the Smithsonian Institute? Why are you asking me? I already said it was.

[Tigerman_69]

This is a "button pushing topic" people have very strong views on it-that is why even when people are not thrilled with the topic they will make their views known. As the expansion actually happens-we will all see it.
The idea of constant updates is senseless-because so far the bulk of those updates have not come to pass. I recall in 06-07 we were hearing that in as little as 18 months substantial construction would be done-has not come to pass.
For me its not the idea of expansion-it is the underlying idea that without Sillermans business savvy - their would be a crumbling of the legacy and memory of Elvis. Unfortunately in the past that was the implication I was getting.
That implication is a button pushing topic with me.
Sillerman did not sell Rock to the world-he did not sell all the records which set Gold Record standard and made chart history, he did not perform the ground breaking performances which launched a musical cultural revolution worldwide-Sillerman does not have the charisma which grabs people and usually keeps them a fan. His plans and money-are not the reason for the fans loving Elvis.
All of those things which made Elvis a legend- existed when Sillerman was a kid in short pants-all of those things survive regardless of expansions, renovations, or hype.

IMO this will never happen as they want it to or be as big as they plan for it to be. For many reasons. One being the neighborhood. it's rundown and no matter how fancy they could make the area there would still be ghettos and danger nearby. It would be like building a palace in the hood. IMO what EPE and CKX should do is work with local business developers and try to redevelop the entire area and not just the Graceland. EPE should lease some of the property they purchased to a hotel client and have a new nice but affordable 4 star hotel across from Graceland and some nice restaurants. But don't make it into a theme park atmosphere. An of course a new nice sized museum right next to Graceland that tells the whole story, something that is missing today when only half the story is told.

Having said all that, I doubt anything will change in that area except get worse than it already is. It won't be the lack of interest that kills off Graceland one day. it'll be the dangers that surround it. :'(

EPE has been talking of expanding as far back as the early 90's after they revamped the racquetball court building. Here it is 09 and they still haven't built any new museum facilities to hold major sized exhibits. I may be wrong about this but I think it'll look in 2012 for the 35th Anniversary as it looks today. Nothing new, nothing changed.:'(

[JDD]

The Economy is garbage right now, nobody will do anything until it starts moving upward again. I wouldn't count out any improvements down the road.
Once people bounce back and feel more secure again, I bet you'll see them start to move forward with some of it , at a reasonable pace.

JD

[KPM]

IMO this will never happen as they want it to or be as big as they plan for it to be. For many reasons. One being the neighborhood. it's rundown and no matter how fancy they could make the area there would still be ghettos and danger nearby. It would be like building a palace in the hood. IMO what EPE and CKX should do is work with local business developers and try to redevelop the entire area and not just the Graceland. EPE should lease some of the property they purchased to a hotel client and have a new nice but affordable 4 star hotel across from Graceland and some nice restaurants. But don't make it into a theme park atmosphere. An of course a new nice sized museum right next to Graceland that tells the whole story, something that is missing today when only half the story is told.

Having said all that, I doubt anything will change in that area except get worse than it already is. It won't be the lack of interest that kills off Graceland one day. it'll be the dangers that surround it. :'(

EPE has been talking of expanding as far back as the early 90's after they revamped the racquetball court building. Here it is 09 and they still haven't built any new museum facilities to hold major sized exhibits. I may be wrong about this but I think it'll look in 2012 for the 35th Anniversary as it looks today. Nothing new, nothing changed.:'(
As I said EPE or Sillerman can not be held accountable for the neighborhoods-what are they suppose to do-buy Memphis? The city will have to clean up the area-EPE should be responsible for the safety of the land and grounds they own-they do that.
As far as "nothing new, nothing changed"-change happens on its own timetable and as it happens it happens.
Lack of change is not always a bad thing.
They rotate around exhibits and have for years-they come up with marketing ideas and have for years. Now this is not on a grand scale as some want-but its not like they sit and do nothing. There are still untold millions of fans and tourists who have not seen the mansion even once-who would never know if something is changed or not.

I say this with all sincerity-I do not foresee Graceland crumbling-or fans around the world to stop visiting. To say that will happen is to undersestimate the draw of Elvis Presley.
In good times and bad times people visit.

[utmom2008]

You ***** none of those are by me. Read the name on the title. They're all started by someone named EP75 :rolleyes:

I'm going to try and help you out here. Since you are new to TCB you might not know that the mods don't put up with name-calling. Just ask EP75.;)
You told me NOT to roll my eyes...why is it OK for you to do so?:doh:

[Tigerman_69]

As I said EPE or Sillerman can not be held accountable for the neighborhoods-what are they suppose to do-buy Memphis? The city will have to clean up the area-EPE should be responsible for the safety of the land and grounds they own-they do that.
As far as "nothing new, nothing changed"-change happens on its own timetable and as it happens it happens.
Lack of change is not always a bad thing.
They rotate around exhibits and have for years-they come up with marketing ideas and have for years. Now this is not on a grand scale as some want-but its not like they sit and do nothing. There are still untold millions of fans and tourists who have not seen the mansion even once-who would never know if something is changed or not.

I say this with all sincerity-I do not foresee Graceland crumbling-or fans around the world to stop visiting. To say that will happen is to underestimate the draw of Elvis Presley.
In good times and bad times people visit.

EPE officially owns over or near 120 acres of land surrounding Graceland north and south. So yes it is their responsibility to make visitors feel safe when in the area since it's on their land. Just north of the gates is their new property and it still looks bad in some parts around Boulevard Souvenirs. Sidewalks have weeds growing on them. As a former resident of Memphis and someone who has been to Graceland several times all I ask for is that EPE and CKX take pride and respect for Graceland by improving the areas around it since they now own it all. Even if they don't plan on building anything within the next year or two at least keep the grass nice on the sidewalks north and improve the safety of visitors.

Nobody's calling Sillerman a savior. But he does have the money to make it nicer looking and safer feeling. So far none of his millions have gone into doing either.

[Tigerman_69]

I'm going to try and help you out here. Since you are new to TCB you might not know that the mods don't put up with name-calling. Just ask EP75.;)
You told me NOT to roll my eyes...why is it OK for you to do so?:doh:

I apologized to presley31 for calling her an idot and she accepted. It was all just a misunderstanding.

[Tigerman_69]

The Economy is garbage right now, nobody will do anything until it starts moving upward again. I wouldn't count out any improvements down the road.
Once people bounce back and feel more secure again, I bet you'll see them start to move forward with some of it , at a reasonable pace.

JD

What killed the plans for Vegas was the failed merger. That was caused more by the credit crisis than the economy itself. The banks aren't giving out loans or credit lines right now. IMO once they begin to do so again then CKX will retry their attempt to go private. I keep forgetting though that EPE will make a fortune alone off of the new Elvis-Cirque show at City Center this year and they have stock in American Idol. It's estimated that the Elvis show in Vegas will make more than what Graceland brings in yearly which will double Elvis' yearly earnings to around $100 million starting next year.

[KPM]

EPE officially owns over or near 120 acres of land surrounding Graceland north and south. So yes it is their responsibility to make visitors feel safe when in the area since it's on their land. Just north of the gates is their new property and it still looks bad in some parts around Boulevard Souvenirs. Sidewalks have weeds growing on them. As a former resident of Memphis and someone who has been to Graceland several times all I ask for is that EPE and CKX take pride and respect for Graceland by improving the areas around it since they now own it all. Even if they don't plan on building anything within the next year or two at least keep the grass nice on the sidewalks north and improve the safety of visitors.

Nobody's calling Sillerman a savior. But he does have the money to make it nicer looking and safer feeling. So far none of his millions have gone into doing either.
Absolutely true.
He has gone full steam ahead in some ways grabbing land-now he has it and hes not sure what he will do with it or when.
When I spoke of the land that EPE and Sillerman should keep safe-I meant Graceland and the land now used for the tours. I do not imagine anyone going to Graceland for a tour would suddenly decide to go wandering into the 120 acres which have nothing at this time to do with the tour. I know I would not do so.
What ever laws are on the books for land not yet developed in Memphis I'm sure will be observed-it would make no sense not to do so.
In my area I worked for a couple years for a retirement village-137 acres total. Only 35 acres were developed-the other acreage was around the village and it sets as it was when they bought it. I did not order special patrols for the 102 acres which was not in use. No trespasing signs and fences were up to keep out strangers-the village had property insurance-what more could we do?