Priscilla attends the closing show Feb. 23, 1972

[ehollier]

I was just listening to a recording from the February 23, 1972 closing show and during the introductions for this show, Elvis introduced "Priscilla, my wife". Just prior to this show, it has been widely reported that Priscilla was summoned to Elvis' room where she told him that she wanted a divorce and in response, Elvis forcefully made love to her.

Although the is show devoid of any of his usual monologues or chatter and the songs are all rushed through, he is in strong voice and sings his full set-list. Further, Elvis doesn't sound like a man that has just been rejected by his wife.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

A lot of things have been said about Elvis, Priscilla is the only person IMHO who can know the answer the rape claim. Sometimes I think Priscilla has said things to hurt Elvis' Image because she was resentful of how people perceived Elvis, she just wanted people to see the man behind the mask so to speak.

Over the years the need to discredit Elvis have lessoned by Priscilla, I guess people have all the facts and will come to their own conclusions about Elvis' life.

As for Elvis giving a great show, that was his bread and butter. Could also go to show that the accusations might not be true :hmm:

[ehollier]

I thought about this inaccuracy in the Presley history, but before the avalanche of the literary tomes after his death and the re-creation of his history, the entire mess was mentioned in "Elvis What Happened" and the story has been the same in each book......that they met in between shows, she told him about leaving him and he forcefully made love to her. It was mentioned in that first book before any attempts were made at changing some of the facts or trying to cover some less than scrupulous ones.

[presley31]

HEY BABY, I AIN'T ASKIN' MUCH OF YOU - Las Vegas, Feb. 23, 1972 MS by Evan


Las Vegas - February 23, 1972 midnight show.
Priscilla Presley wrote in her book ELVIS & ME that between the dinner show and the midnight show on February 23 (the closing night of Elvis' sixth Vegas season) she finally confirmed with Elvis that she was ending their marriage. Anyone who has been in this position could sympathize with both parties and their emotional reactions to such a change in their lifestyles. For me I've always wondered how Elvis was after Priscilla made this announcement to him. Luckily, I have been able to listen to a part of that very night via an audience recording of the midnight show that night. This recording begins with the 2001 filled with many screams of excitement, which climax with Elvis' entrance to the stage. The sound is very typical for an audience recording, however the clapping from the Sweet Inspirations is very evident suring the opening riff. SEE SEE RIDER is very similar to the opening night performance, and Elvis repeats the line ".well I'm going, aarrrr way baby" just as he does in his evening performance from Hampton Roads, April 9, 1972 (refer ELVIS ON TOUR), instead of singing "I'm goin', goin' goin' away baby". Elvis certainly does not sound like he has just had his wife tell him their marriage is over.

The girls in the audience are wild tonight. Elvis says thank you, and signals the start of PROUD MARY. J.D. Sumner's voice booms "roll on, roll on" through the International's showroom. One fan can be clearly heard saying "Oh my God" as Elvis does his thing to Ronnie's drum roll. She's hot for Elvis tonight!

Hardly before the applause starts Elvis starts a haunting version of NEVER BEEN TO SPAIN. One guy is heard saying "Oh yeah!" in approval to Elvis' choice. The sound on the tape improves a little allowing the listener to hear a slight echo in Elvis' voice during the first two verses of this song. Elvis' pronunciation of the lyrics, "well they tell me I was born there" is very different to the usual. There is more power and is used to good effect. What I dig about these January/February 1972 versions is Elvis' overall clear pronunciation of the words in this song, where as by April, he was less careful in the way he sang them. James Burton's guitar lets out some awesome riffs in the finale of Never Been To Spain. I love this song, and feel that it really suited Elvis. A woman sitting near the tape recorder this night says to her friend, "He (Elvis) has a bracelet on!" Perhaps it was Priscilla's? Little time is allowed for applause when YOU GAVE ME A MOUNTAIN is performed. This version is still sung at a similar speed as the first versions, but Elvis seems more confident in his approach allowing his vocals soar. Unlike in some later versions (i.e., September 2, 1974 closing show) Elvis does not emphasize the lyrics that include ".just tired of being my wife, she took my one ray of sunshine" but before, he does sing "so tired of THE workin' for nothin'" which is a little unusual. There is a lot of conviction in Elvis' performance of You Gave Me a Mountain tonight, and the audience's reaction proves they felt his emotion in his singing.

UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GO starts immediately. There is a little movement in the tape recorder, but does not hinder the sound too much. One advantage that audience recordings provide which soundboards do not is the overall effect of the crowd reaction to Elvis. Often we lose sight (or hearing) of the fact that Elvis and his audience would mould into one microcosm when they were together, and even on RCA/BMG recordings much of this participation is lost.

Until It's Time.. is a very straight version with no hiccups. For me it's not a great song. However it was a recent single at this time, and so Elvis was obviously promoting it whilst also enjoying it.

Elvis allows the applause to last for a normal amount of time before Jerry Scheff starts POLK SALAD ANNIE. The girl who was quite audible in Never Been to Spain screams her excitement as Elvis starts his singing. Jerry's bass solo starts a little earlier than usual, but is real dirty version. Elvis is into this, and he seems more comfortable with this arrangement than the last few this song had already experienced. The finale brings the audience to near ecstasy LOVE ME starts immediately. There is the crash of glass, and some of the fans roar with laughter. I am uncertain if Elvis was aware of what was happening, but it does not appear to be a dangerous situation. In fact, Elvis as probably in the middle of it. During the lyrics, "I'd be sad and blue" there is somewhat of a commotion. Elvis chuckles and says, "Easy job, man".

After a slight edit, ALL SHOOK UP kicks in at super sonic speed. The clapping by the quartets is very evident, and Elvis has fun with the lyrics as he over pronunciates "she touched my hand and WHAT a chill I got". A great performance clocking in at just 0.59 seconds.

The TEDDY BEAR-DON'T BE CRUEL medley is next, and brings many screams. Perhaps Elvis is throwing teddy bears and hound dogs into the crowd. As Elvis repeats the chorus, he sings "I just wanna be" then in a slightly lower tone he repeats, "Just wanna be". The "bop de wops" by the Stamps are very prominent in Teddy Bear. The start of Don't Be Cruel has girls in hysterics. This version includes the "kick your ***" lyrics and Elvis puts much emphasis on "I don't want no other love". The fans go ape shit at the end of this performance. Elvis's voice emerges from the screams with a slow, bluesy "Youuuuuuu aiiiiiinnnnnttttttt nuthin' buttttttta hound dawg". HOUND DOG has this particular girl getting very excited, and Elvis plays up to her before building up to full speed. After just one verse during the fast section of the song, the band tries to end because of the break Elvis puts in the words "You aint never caught a rabbit (pause) and you aint no friend of mine" however Elvis continues singing for another verse, and the band quickly follows. However when he does sing his intended pause (which is a bit of an oxy***** on my part), the fans scream indicating Elvis is physically making it very clear that the song will now finish.

A BIG HUNK OF LOVE is a ball ripper of a version. Elvis screams the lyrics to great effect - much better than the version from the opening night of this season. The band is cooking with gas during this song. Elvis hypes James Burton's solo with some initial hiccups. Tonight's version is as fast as Hardheaded Woman - real fast.

Without warning HELP ME MAKE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT is sung. It is very similar to the studio cut, but seems to have a little more horn orchestration. Luckily for tonight's fans', Elvis sings a full version which almost clocks in at two minutes.

BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER has it's piano introduction slightly edited, but this chick I mentioned before starts hollering like she is on heat, or duck hunting season just started! It's peculiar, and I can't help imagine the funny looks Elvis must have given the Stamps when he heard her! Elvis actually laughs, then a male fan screams out to her "Quiet!". Elvis replies, "Yeah, we're trying to do this song please be quiet back there" which causes the audience to applaud. This "hooting" fan must have felt like an absolute dick after Elvis told her to shut up. "Bridge." is a mesmerizing version. Jerry's bass notes can be heard floating around the showroom, and there is a beautiful flute also to be heard in places. I tend to rank the April 14, 1972 Greensboro versions of this song as one of the best ever - a ten out of ten, and thus tend to compare other versions to this one. Tonight's version is about a nine out of ten compared to Greensboro.

SUSPICIOUS MINDS starts but is suspiciously edited soon after it's start. This is approximately thirty minutes into the show indicating that the fan recording the concert was using a sixty minute tape, and took about three minutes to realize that side A had run out before starting the recording again on side B. Therefore we only get about one minute of Suspicious Minds. Judging by the screams and Ronnie's drumming, Elvis was showing of his karate interest again!

The band introductions proceed without any announcement from Elvis that he wants to introduce the TCB band. After the band introductions, Elvis introduces an actor whose name I can not understand. Elvis continues, "I'd like to say that everybody up here on stage have been, urr, very professional. And have made this one of the happiest engagements I've had here in Vegas (applause). And my Dad, he's here with me, Grandma. And Colonel Parker. And er, Priscilla, my wife. Everybody whose come to see the show, I'd like to thank you very much. I'd just like to mention those FAT funky angels up there on the wall. The tape becomes inaudible, but some guy screams out "They're all yours baby".

Elvis continues another introduction. It is very difficult to understand what he says, but it sounds like he says, "Yeah, the Rambos" He continues, "Yeah, they're fantastic. A gospel group, Would you stand up please? The Rambos".

Once the applause dies down AMERICAN TRILOGY starts. The Stamps' section of the song receives much response from the fans, and Elvis follows with a very vocally outstanding version. Like in You Gave Me a Mountain, Elvis' confidence compared with earlier performances of this song has grown. He allows himself no boundaries, and lets loose on the high notes. The flute solo can be heard bouncing off the walls of the show room Man it must have been great to be there! There is a very strange edit just after the flute solo causing the sound to become much clearer. Unfortunately I do not know if this is from the same show as the sound is much different. Perhaps the concert was not recorded in it's entirety and hence this possible splice from another performance. The standard CAN'T HELP FALLING IN LOVE follows, and is a very typical performance.

Considering the significance of this concert at this time in Elvis' life, his performance runs at just fifty minutes. He is very professional, but maturely entices his fans with his cheeky humor. The show does seem a little rushed, and is closed soon after the introductions, however I get the feeling Elvis is more anxious to finish this long Vegas season because he wants a break rather than rush to a reconciliation with his wife.

source:
http://www.elvisconcerts.com/reviews/rev720223.htm

[epmoodyblue]

:hmm:well..surely cilla choose awierd time to tell elvis she wanted out..:lmfao:kidding aside...she could of chosen a better time than when before elvis was about to hit the stage..really durprising elvis went on with the concert after such devastating news:blink::blink: but then agian is there really a better time to tell your husband u want a divorce:blink:there isint........cilla has lied many times i supppose..i dont believe elvis raped her...:hmm:she choose closing night vegas to close he marriage with elvis:lol:.....sorry im just kiddin..its a serious matter elvis divorce..oh well it just had to be that way end that way....shame it couldint go on mabye elvis would of had more children(y) and live happily ever after..a fairyta;e ending ..just wasint meant to behttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f137/bellaselena/icon_sad.gif

[presley31]

I have a funny feeling this thread is going to go downhill really quick.

[epmoodyblue]

I have a funny feeling this thread is going to go downhill really quick.nah it wont get outta hand..we dont know if it really happened-rape...we will never know:king:we can discuss this in acivilized matter..no reason for it to get outta hand

[presley31]

nah it wont get outta hand..we dint know if it really happened-rape...we will never know:king:

Have a look at the rest of the threads that have the rape in it and than tell me it's not going to get ugly or look at theads that have been closed.

[epmoodyblue]

Have a look at the rest of the threads that have the rape in it and than tell me it's not going to get ugly or look at theads that have been closed.well my fellow canadian friend...stop beiing negative. stop worrying..if it does get outta hand....we will leave it to the moderators here to do there thing(y)..relax have a cup of hot chocolate.http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/73.jpg

[presley31]

:lol:
well my fellow canadian friend...stop beiing negative. stop worrying..if it does get outta hand....we will leave it to the moderators here to do there thing(y)..relax have a cup of hot chocolate.http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/73.jpg

thanks for the cup of hot chocolate and l'am going to drink it and leave for the day l think:supriced: :lol:

[Teddy]

I don't see any reason why this needs to turn ugly as long as we don't dwell unnecessarily on the 'R' word.
Elizabeth's thread has raised the much more interesting issue about whether the information in our collected sources on the timing of this event can be accurate, given the recording of the concert in question. It's not just about an alleged assault- it's about the divorce request.

[epmoodyblue]

:lol:

thanks for the cup of hot chocolate and l'am going to drink it and leave for the day l think:supriced: :lol:have a nice day-peace to you(y):newyear::lol:

[epmoodyblue]

I don't see any reason why this needs to turn ugly as long as we don't dwell unnecessarily on the 'R' word.
Elizabeth's thread has raised the much more interesting issue about whether the information in our collected sources on the timing of this event can be accurate, given the recording of the concert in question. It's not just about an alleged assault- it's about the divorce request.(y)thats right were just assuming posting our thoughts..we dont know the real facts about that closing show..lets be happy life is too short ..lets not fight were all friends here..have a cup of hot chocolatehttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/73.jpg..bye -bye-buh-bye peeps will be back later(y):notworthy

[Teddy]

..have a cup of hot chocolatehttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/73.jpg

Thanks, that's very kind of you :) http://smiley.net.ru/misfod055.gif

[Diane]

As someone born and raised in Canada, I would like to share a cup of hot chocolate with all of you too....cheers!!!:D

Diane

[utmom2008]

Just prior to this show, it has been widely reported that Priscilla was summoned to Elvis' room where she told him that she wanted a divorce and in response, Elvis forcefully made love to her.


:doh:Interesting choice of words.:doh:


that they met in between shows, she told him about leaving him and he forcefully made love to her.
See above!:lol:

I don't see any reason why this needs to turn ugly as long as we don't dwell unnecessarily on the 'R' word.


It's not the "R" word....:lol:...it's the "F" word. "Forcefully.";):lol:

[utmom2008]

Sometimes I think Priscilla has said things to hurt Elvis' Image because she was resentful of how people perceived Elvis, she just wanted people to see the man behind the mask so to speak.



It's good to see that someone else thinks that just might be a possibility.(y)

[ehollier]

It's not the "R" word....:lol:...it's the "F" word. "Forcefully.";):lol:

Whew!!!!! :doh:I thought you were going somewhere else with that.

[utmom2008]

Whew!!!!! :doh:I thought you were going somewhere else with that.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: I made a point to clear that up because I knew that could go downhill in a hurry!:lol::lol::lol:

[Teddy]

Yes, I blinked several times before the penny dropped :lol:
I thought wow, Rosanne is cruel but she's not usually profane :lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Yes, I blinked several times before the penny dropped :lol:
I thought wow, Rosanne is cruel but she's not usually profane :lmfao:

I'm thrilled to know that at least part of my reputation is intact.:lmfao::lmfao:

[Teddy]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Yes, I blinked several times before the penny dropped :lol:
I thought wow, Rosanne is cruel but she's not usually profane :lmfao:

Cruel...now this would be cruel. Look at what poor "Teddy" is having to do.:blink:

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[Teddy]

Don't! I'm having flashbacks of my youth in that Russian circus :'(

[utmom2008]

Don't! I'm having flashbacks of my youth in that Russian circus :'(

Is this where they would put you when you were a bad little "bear"?

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[ehollier]

Is this where they would put you when you were a bad little "bear"?

28239

Rosie, that looks like a scene from Zumanity, the show we saw in Vegas......:blink:

[utmom2008]

Rosie, that looks like a scene from Zumanity, the show we saw in Vegas......:blink:

Is that a pleasant memory or an unpleasant memory?:hmm:

[ehollier]

Is that a pleasant memory or an unpleasant memory?:hmm:

I guess. Why? Does it matter in Teddy's instance? :supriced::blink::supriced:

[utmom2008]

Is that a pleasant memory or an unpleasant memory?:hmm:


I guess. Why? Does it matter in Teddy's instance? :supriced::blink::supriced:

You guess???:supriced: Which is it?:supriced::lol::lol:
I was asking because anytime I see an animal behind bars it's an unpleasant iamge for me.:blink::blush:

[epmoodyblue]

As someone born and raised in Canada, I would like to share a cup of hot chocolate with all of you too....cheers!!!:D

Dianehttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/yecms.jpgcheers to u and all fellow canucks n in this forum....and to all tcb members(y)
:newyear:

[ehollier]

You guess???:supriced: Which is it?:supriced::lol::lol:
I was asking because anytime I see an animal behind bars it's an unpleasant iamge for me.:blink::blush:

What we saw was a Cirque du Soleil production and there was this cage-like prop and when I saw, the show immediately came to mind. But the Zumanity show was an 'adult's only' show and it had nothing to do with caged up animals at the zoo. If you Google it, you may getter a better description than what I am able to produce here.:blink:

[ehollier]

You guess???:supriced: Which is it?:supriced::lol::lol:
I was asking because anytime I see an animal behind bars it's an unpleasant iamge for me.:blink::blush:

Okay, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate again. If the sight of animals behind bars is unpleasant image for you, what does this say about wanting Teddy in a cage????? I'm curious, as I am sure he is also......lol.....:blink:

[utmom2008]

If the sight of animals behind bars is unpleasant image for you, what does this say about wanting Teddy in a cage????? I'm curious, as I am sure he is also......lol.....:blink:


Is this where they would put you when you were a bad little "bear"?


First.....re-read my comment. I said nothing about wanting Teddy in a cage. He said he was in a Russian circus...I asked him if that's where they put him when he was bad.:blink::blink:

Second....I believe you are waaayyyy over thinking this.:supriced::lol:

Third....does Teddy in a cage conjur up thoughts for you?:doh::supriced::lol:

[Brian]

A lot of things have been said about Elvis, Priscilla is the only person IMHO who can know the answer the rape claim. Sometimes I think Priscilla has said things to hurt Elvis' Image because she was resentful of how people perceived Elvis, she just wanted people to see the man behind the mask so to speak.

Over the years the need to discredit Elvis have lessoned by Priscilla, I guess people have all the facts and will come to their own conclusions about Elvis' life.


I remember seeing Priscilla on t.v. in the 80's and even 90's where she would sometimes put Elvis down or take digs and I thought how stupid she was for doing that because she makes her money off of his image and estate and I know her book and movie damaged Elvis reputation with some fans and turned them off of him completely which means less fans = less money for Priscilla.
that's business 101.
nowadays she speaks kinder of Elvis but if she had done that in the 80's she would have more fans among Elvis fans.

[utmom2008]

nowadays she speaks kinder of Elvis but if she had done that in the 80's she would have more fans among Elvis fans.

You are correct on that one Brian.:blush::blink:

[ehollier]

[/u]

First.....re-read my comment. I said nothing about wanting Teddy in a cage. He said he was in a Russian circus...I asked him if that's where they put him when he was bad.:blink::blink:

Second....I believe you are waaayyyy over thinking this.:supriced::lol:

Third....does Teddy in a cage conjur up thoughts for you?:doh::supriced::lol:


I MISUNDERSTOOD your post about the circus. Sorry. Teddy in cage conjuring up thoughts??? No!! Just funny, that all!!!!:lmfao:

[SleepyJack]

Could be worse...could be that Teddy would be spending his time IN bars....poor little furry legs wobbling all over the road on the way home!......:):):)

[Diane]

It may come to that with his terrible obsession over the ice maiden who will never give the time of day....poor poor Teddy!:'(;)

Diane

[utmom2008]

Could be worse...could be that Teddy would be spending his time IN bars....poor little furry legs wobbling all over the road on the way home!......:):):)
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

It may come to that with his terrible obsession over the ice maiden who will never give the time of day....poor poor Teddy!:'(;)

Diane

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Teddy]

You guys make my circus captors look kind :sad: http://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif:sad:

[presley31]

It may come to that with his terrible obsession over the ice maiden who will never give the time of day....poor poor Teddy!:'(;)

Diane

Wow diane you shocked me there with that comment:blink: Guess l didn't think you were like that:supriced:

[franny]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/yecms.jpgcheers to u and all fellow canucks n in this forum....and to all tcb members(y)
:newyear:

Thank you. Cheers to you, too. (y) After all this talk about hot chocolate, I feel like having some now :lol:

franny

[Teddy]

Wow diane you shocked me there with that comment:blink: Guess l didn't think you were like that:supriced:

Don't worry Jen- let them have their fun.
When Cilla is mine I'll have the last laugh http://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif

[utmom2008]

Wow diane you shocked me there with that comment:blink: Guess l didn't think you were like that:supriced:

Like what? A non-Priscilla fan?:supriced::supriced::lol:

[Teddy]

Thank you. Cheers to you, too. (y) After all this talk about hot chocolate, I feel like having some now :lol:

franny

Here ya go, Franny http://smiley.net.ru/misfod055.gifhttp://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif

[presley31]

Don't worry Jen- let them have their fun.
When Cilla is mine I'll have the last laugh http://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif

No worrried about it teddy, but hey what ever rocks there boats.

[presley31]

Like what? A non-Priscilla fan?:supriced::supriced::lol:

I'am pretty sure diane can speak for herself:blink:

[franny]

Here ya go, Franny http://smiley.net.ru/misfod055.gifhttp://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif

Thanks, Teddy. (y) Does the teddybear come with it? lol

franny

[utmom2008]

I'am pretty sure diane can speak for herself:blink:
Well excuse meeeeee. I though we were all having a little fun.:blink:

No worrried about it teddy, but hey what ever rocks there boats.

Didn't you mean "whatever floats their boats"?;);):blink:

[elvispresleytheking]

Look, ELvis was a great performere, but he was human, whether you like to admit it or not, he had flaws, and I ignore them and listen to his performances.

[presley31]

Well excuse meeeeee. I though we were all having a little fun.:blink:


Didn't you mean "whatever floats their boats"?;);):blink:

Different sayings :blush: Guess l don't see the fun with put downs;)

[Teddy]

Thanks, Teddy. (y) Does the teddybear come with it? lol

franny

Always! (y)

[Teddy]

Different sayings :blush: Guess l don't see the fun with put downs;)

I took it in the spirit that was intended http://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif

[utmom2008]

Guess l don't see the fun with put downs;)

And it's your right to see things however you want to, but don't be critical of those of us that have a sense of humor about things.;) Even Teddy enjoys having a little fun with all of it.:blush:

[utmom2008]

I took it in the spirit that was intended http://smiley.net.ru/misanm0169.gif


Even Teddy enjoys having a little fun with all of it.:blush:

I thought you "got" it!;);):lol:

[presley31]

And it's your right to see things however you want to, but don't be critical of those of us that have a sense of humor about things.;) Even Teddy enjoys having a little fun with all of it.:blush:


With all respect but don't tell me to be critical to anything and we will get along just fine!!!!!!!!!

BTW you said we are entiled to our opinions so l have every right to say how l feel too,

[utmom2008]

With all respect but don't tell me to be critical to anything and we will get along just fine!!!!!!!!!

BTW you said we are entiled to our opinions so l have every right to say how l feel too,

I haven't told you to be critical of anything...:blink:
Yes...we are entitled to our opinions, but we don't put it on a personal level and aim it at any members on here.;)

[presley31]

I haven't told you to be critical of anything...:blink:
Yes...we are entitled to our opinions, but we don't put it on a personal level and aim it at any members on here.;)

right time to move on before it does come personal:blink:

[Diane]

Jen I don't know how you took the ice maiden comment but I thought it was pretty mild compared to some we've read. You know I don't hate Priscilla but I can't find reasons to like her either. I do find her cold.

Diane

[presley31]

Jen I don't know how you took the ice maiden comment but I thought it was pretty mild compared to some we've read. You know I don't hate Priscilla but I can't find reasons to like her either. I do find her cold.

Diane

I sent you a pm explaining my reasons.

[utmom2008]

You know I don't hate Priscilla but I can't find reasons to like her either. I do find her cold.

Diane

That has always been my "thing" about her Diane. I wouldn't like Priscilla regardless of whom she was married to, or if she was living down the street. I think she has a cold, icy demeanor...the total opposite of Linda Thompson. That's one reason I think why most fans really like Linda...she seemed warm and inviting.:blush::D

[TotallyInsane]

That has always been my "thing" about her Diane. I wouldn't like Priscilla regardless of whom she was married to, or if she was living down the street. I think she has a cold, icy demeanor...the total opposite of Linda Thompson. That's one reason I think why most fans really like Linda...she seemed warm and inviting.:blush::D

This is why so many people like me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D

[Donut]

I remember seeing Priscilla on t.v. in the 80's and even 90's where she would sometimes put Elvis down or take digs and I thought how stupid she was for doing that because she makes her money off of his image and estate.

I'm relieved to know someone else has noticed too. You can't never publicly say how bad is the 'product' you are trying to sell. She has not been able to separate her private life and resentment towards him from the position she chose at EPE. That's not a very smart movement for her business and her own image on her part considering she lives from Elvis' fans and the great majority would defend Elvis above her.

[Diane]

Those interviews and her book is precisely what turned me off her. I don't care if the digs are subtle or veiled....they are there regardless and in very poor taste when you make your living off the person you're putting down. In my mind a true lady is one who is honest and has a sense of humor two qualities which she has never had.

Diane

[presley31]

Those interviews and her book is precisely what turned me off her. I don't care if the digs are subtle or veiled....they are there regardless and in very poor taste when you make your living off the person you're putting down. In my mind a true lady is one who is honest and has a sense of humor two qualities which she has never had.

Diane

diane have you ever met priscilla?? just curious.

[Diane]

No Jen, you know I haven't. I go by what we've all seen, read and heard like everyone else. People strike everyone different and that is how she strikes me. Even if I had met her briefly and she was nice say to me, she would have her public face on and that wouldn't be any indication of who she was.

I've read on some thread quite a while back here on this site that if you want to see the real her, ask her a question about Elvis and you will see a whole different person that her resentment of him shows through. She has the limelight and everything else now because of his death so I feel she should be grateful and graceful towards him.

Diane

[presley31]

No Jen, you know I haven't. I go by what we've all seen, read and heard like everyone else. People strike everyone different and that is how she strikes me. Even if I had met her briefly and she was nice say to me, she would have her public face on and that wouldn't be any indication of who she was.

I've read on some thread quite a while back here on this site that if you want to see the real her, ask her a question about Elvis and you will see a whole different person that her resentment of him shows through. She has the limelight and everything else now because of his death so I feel she should be grateful and graceful towards him.

Diane

I was just wondering cause teddy and franny have and not sure if anybody else on here has met her:hmm:

I heard different from another forum that is is very nice when talking about elvis so everyone got there opinions l suppose. Lisa also stated that her mother is very funny at times, so she must have some humor.

[Teddy]

I remember seeing Priscilla on t.v. in the 80's and even 90's where she would sometimes put Elvis down or take digs

Does anybody have any actual examples of this which they could share?
I can't help feeling that this is one of those chinese whispers situations. It has become 'received wisdom' but the sources are never forthcoming. I haven't discovered any material which reveals Priscilla 'putting Elvis down' in all my years of scrutinizing Cilla-related matters.

Sure, we have embittered ex-associates claiming that she was the personification of evil when behind-closed-doors but what does that really demonstrate other than their bitterness?

[Diane]

Teddy and Franny have the right to see Priscilla in a positive light as much as I have the right to the opposite. Some people have also met Lisa and don't think well of her still, but I think the majority were surprised and liked her very much. It's all subjective as to how you perceive someone.

I also saw Lisa in an interview where she said her mother is starting to get a sense of humor and can be quite funny at times which indicates that she didn't used to have one, and I think that's a good thing. She may be less self-conscious and more relaxed now that she has gotten older.

Diane

[presley31]

Teddy and Franny have the right to see Priscilla in a positive light as much as I have the right to the opposite. Some people have also met Lisa and don't think well of her still, but I think the majority were surprised and liked her very much. It's all subjective as to how you perceive someone.

I also saw Lisa in an interview where she said her mother is starting to get a sense of humor and can be quite funny at times which indicates that she didn't used to have one, and I think that's a good thing.

Diane

Yep like l said just different opinions. however it would get boring if we all agreed on things. Lisa is the one who l would love to met.

[Diane]

Wow Jen, you snatched my post before I was able to finish editing it to add another sentence. Sometimes you have to be really quick on here.:D

I agree, my feelings towards Lisa are totally different. She kicks off the maternal instinct in me I guess. I never got over that sad little face in the newspapers when Elvis died and her reactions today when someone brings up that awful day does the same to me. I just want to reach out and hug her. Priscilla has never looked or acted devastated like Lisa does for someone who claimed to have loved him.

Just as an example how differently people perceive Priscilla: in an interview she usually plays with her hair, rubs her nose (Lisa caught that habit from her) and says "oh my gosh" etc. etc.....now some will view that as oh so cute and girl-like while others will see it as very immature and cagey.

We all have to go by our instincts......

Diane

[Teddy]

Just as an example how differently people perceive Priscilla: in an interview she usually plays with her hair, rubs her nose (Lisa caught that habit from her) and says "oh my gosh" etc. etc.....now some will view that as oh so cute


You'd better believe it :wub:
I particularly love the excessive blinking http://smiley.net.ru/lovhea063.gif

[presley31]

Wow Jen, you snatched my post before I was able to finish editing it to add another sentence. Sometimes you have to be really quick on here.:D

I agree, my feelings towards Lisa are totally different. She kicks off the maternal instinct in me I guess. I never got over that sad little face in the newspapers when Elvis died and her reactions today when someone brings up that awful day does the same to me. I just want to reach out and hug her. Priscilla has never looked or acted devastated like Lisa does for someone who claimed to have loved him.

Just as an example how differently people perceive Priscilla: in an interview she usually plays with her hair, rubs her nose (Lisa caught that habit from her) and says "oh my gosh" etc. etc.....now some will view that as oh so cute and girl-like while others will see it as very immature and cagey.

We all have to go by our instincts......

Diane

we have to agree and disgree about the priscilla part. Lisa will always be her daddy's little girl and feel the pain of not having him around. I think once you had elvis love it was there forever. you know some kids don't love there dad as much as they can, but lisa didn't hold back and showed it 100% and still does with the little says she say about him.

[Teddy]

I agree, my feelings towards Lisa are totally different. She kicks off the maternal instinct in me I guess. I never got over that sad little face in the newspapers when Elvis died and her reactions today when someone brings up that awful day does the same to me. I just want to reach out and hug her.

Ironically enough, on the day I met Priscilla, I met a lot of the kind of fans who turn up for any Presley-related personal appearance on the calendar, so several of them had met Lisa.
Almost everyone who had met Lisa described her as surly, churlish and resentful and one of them even claimed that Lisa had told them to "**** off" for taking up too much time. :lol:

[Diane]

Teddy you're incurable and totally caught in her web:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: But....but not all men see her the way you do. My husband has never thought she was especially beautiful even when I thought she was in her younger days. Sofia Loren was more to his taste and I was pleased as there is one woman I feel IS a true lady and worthy of a man's admiration.

Diane

[Graceland Rain]

nothing is true about the forcefully made love story in the 80s she gaved a interview about it she told them she made the story up

[presley31]

Ironically enough, on the day I met Priscilla, I met a lot of the kind of fans who turn up for any Presley-related personal appearance on the calendar, so several of them had met Lisa.
Almost everyone who had met Lisa described her as surly, churlish and resentful and one of them even claimed that Lisa had told them to "**** off" for taking up too much time. :lol:

I can't see lisa telling someone off for taking to much time up but than again l don't know her and priscilla for that matter.

[presley31]

nothing is true about the forcefully made love story in the 80s she gaved a interview about it she told them she made the story up

do you know where l could find that interview??

[Teddy]

nothing is true about the forcefully made love story in the 80s she gaved a interview about it she told them she made the story up

Whaaaat????! :supriced:

[Diane]

I can imagine Lisa telling some fans off in her usual unladylike way. Does anyone realize how much fans took away her dad from her when she was growing up? Don't you think you might have some resentment towards them too in her place? I think that would be quite normal in light of how her life was growing up.

Others who have met her found her to be very affectionate and friendly. Probably those are more recent after Lisa matured a little more and was able to handle things differently than she had in the past.

Diane

[ehollier]

nothing is true about the forcefully made love story in the 80s she gaved a interview about it she told them she made the story up

Seems like that would have gotten at lot of attention and press.......:blink:

[ehollier]

Whaaaat????! :supriced:

I guess this changes all of your protective feelings for her, huh? :blink:

[presley31]

I was reading on fecc about linda thompson's book and she didn't want to write one cause they just wanted the juicy stuff and nothing that linda wanted to talk about so l guess the juicy stuff is better than the real things that happened. Look at lisa last interview..she said they changed everything and not what she said.

[ehollier]

I was reading on fecc about linda thompson's book and she didn't want to write one cause they just wanted the juicy stuff and nothing that linda wanted to talk about so l guess the juicy stuff is better than the real things that happened. Look at lisa last interview..she said they changed everything and not what she said.

And so goes the ELVIS! myth.........:blink:

[Teddy]

I guess this changes all of your protective feelings for her, huh? :blink:

Not at all. I've just assumed that the potentially misleading use of words on this subject in Elvis and Me is evidence of her co-writer's contribution, since they are appointed by the publisher to help the celebrity make it more salable as well as salient.
For Cilla to make a confession of this kind afterwards would be absolutely extraordinary and completely unlikely.

[ehollier]

Just as an example how differently people perceive Priscilla: in an interview she usually plays with her hair, rubs her nose (Lisa caught that habit from her) and says "oh my gosh" etc. etc.....now some will view that as oh so cute and girl-like while others will see it as very immature and cagey.

We all have to go by our instincts......

Diane

I view Priscilla's actions as you described as just being very uncomfortable in whatever situation (usually an interview) she is in. I can certainly understand. I play with my hair, too, when very nervous.

[presley31]

I view Priscilla's actions as you described as just being very uncomfortable in whatever situation (usually an interview) she is in. I can certainly understand. I play with my hair, too, when very nervous.

Not saying this is how it happened, but maybe the writer put a little extra in there?? I know silly idea:P

[ehollier]

Not saying this is how it happened, but maybe the writer put a little extra in there?? I know silly idea:P

Jen, that was my first thought when I read that the 'forcefully story' was not true. A bit of 'creative license' by the author, possibly. Do we know which "story" is at issue here.....is it the one that appears in the book or in the movie, because if you ask me, they are not the same.

But that still doesn't explain why that same story appears in EWH almost 10 years before Priscilla wrote her book.

[presley31]

Jen, that was my first thought when I read that the 'forcefully story' was not true. A bit of 'creative license' by the author, possibly. Do we know which "story" is at issue here.....is it the one that appears in the book or in the movie, because if you ask me, they are not the same.

But that still doesn't explain why that same story appears in EWH almost 10 years before Priscilla wrote her book.


Isn't that funny that it was EWH but the boys in revelations didn't think it was true. So confusing trying to find out the correct stories.

[Teddy]

I view Priscilla's actions as you described as just being very uncomfortable in whatever situation (usually an interview) she is in. I can certainly understand. I play with my hair, too, when very nervous.

Being nervous during a television interview is a natural reaction to an unnatural situation, not an indication of guilt. Especially when you know full well that thousands of Presley-fundamentalists are scrutinizing your every move for what might be considered inappropriate behavior.

[ehollier]

Isn't that funny that it was EWH but the boys in revelations didn't think it was true. So confusing trying to find out the correct stories.

I'll probably attract a lot hate responses to this, but EWH, although was not a very attractive portrait of The King, was actually factual. The anecdotes that were written in that book had not been written and re-written by the hundreds of authors that would follow after Elvis' death. Even in their 'rough' form, they are un-diluted and at their purest. Priscilla was accompanied by Pat and Judy West the evening of February 23, 1972, in whom she confided about her incident with Elvis. How in the world would Lamar and Marty know what Priscilla did with Elvis -- unless they were in the room (hardly) or listening at the door (possibly?)?? They are such buffoons!!!!

[ehollier]

Being nervous during a television interview is a natural reaction to an unnatural situation, not an indication of guilt. Especially when you know full well that thousands of Presley-fundamentalists are scrutinizing your every move for what might be considered inappropriate behavior.

I think Teddy made a very valid point. But then again, what do I know.

[Teddy]

I think Teddy made a very valid point. But then again, what do I know.

:supriced: You offer a compliment with one hand and whip it away with the other :lmfao:

[Diane]

It's always been well known that writers who write the biographies for others do exaggerate and distort what they are told. If Priscilla and the MM were upset at the printing of their books, could they not have written a retraction and outlined what they felt was wrong..or go public in an interview and do it there?

Diane

[ehollier]

:supriced: You offer a compliment with one hand and whip it away with the other :lmfao:

I'm sorry Teddy. But you know others here think we're nuts!! I guess I was beginning to doubt myself.........But you do make a valid point. Being nervous makes you do crazy things.......

[Brian]

Does anybody have any actual examples of this which they could share?
I can't help feeling that this is one of those chinese whispers situations. It has become 'received wisdom' but the sources are never forthcoming. I haven't discovered any material which reveals Priscilla 'putting Elvis down' in all my years of scrutinizing Cilla-related matters.

Sure, we have embittered ex-associates claiming that she was the personification of evil when behind-closed-doors but what does that really demonstrate other than their bitterness?

certainly

I said they were t.v. interviews

As recent as 2002 Priscilla's interview with Katie Couric

she was talking about her divorce from Elvis and the straw that broke the camels back and she said oh ''If Elvis wasn't happy nobody was happy''
I took that as a little dig at Elvis because of the tone and the way she worded it. Then in the interview they went on to talk about what a success she's been after she left Elvis and how independent she is like her role in Dallas and her involvement in the estate.

first off this made me laugh she wouldn't of got the role on Dallas if it wasn't for Elvis and there was other executors that were involved in the estate.

even in the ladies home journal interview in 1973 she talks about Mike Stone and she says that Mike Stone is a real man who treats her like a woman.

I took that as a dig at Elvis as well

there are several others

this is from Priscilla's own mouth not ex- associates

[Teddy]

It's always been well known that writers who write the biographies for others do exaggerate and distort what they are told. If Priscilla and the MM were upset at the printing of their books, could they not have written a retraction and outlined what they felt was wrong..or go public in an interview and do it there?

Diane

I've heard people say this time and time again but the answer is no way.
Once a book is signed, sealed and published it is tantamount to a legally binding document, and in this instance it's one with her name on the front of it in the public domain.
She may very well regret the impression that it gives now but to begin retracting elements of it later is not something you would want to get involved with casually. Especially not in an interview and especially when its incontrovertible anyway.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I'm certainly no Priscilla fan, I believe firmly that Priscilla has resented Elvis for many reasons e.g.

Not being the Husband and father she envisaged due to his commitments and lifestyle.

Having so much attention from the female population :P

For having a carefully constructed Image that the fans simply didn't want to see behind.

As for wanting to see where Priscilla has spoken about Elvis in a non too positive way, just watch 'Elvis by the Presley's. If you can't see through her thinly veiled platitudes you never will.

I have to say (through gritted teeth) Priscilla has gotten better over the years, perhaps the stretching of her skin has tightened her brain matter :lol:

Priscilla is like Marmite, you either love her or you hate her :supriced:

[Teddy]

As recent as 2002 Priscilla's interview with Katie Couric

she was talking about her divorce from Elvis and the straw that broke the camels back and she said oh ''If Elvis wasn't happy nobody was happy''


I've heard Billy Smith say exactly the same thing. Was HE having a dig at Elvis?
Practically everybody who knew Elvis describes his moods as infectious.
That's all she was saying.

[Diane]

Thanks for clarifying that for me Teddy. Then I guess the answer must be that you should think more than twice before deciding to write a book if you don't want to be stuck with the consequences.

Diane

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I've heard people say this time and time again but the answer is no way.
Once a book is signed, sealed and published it is tantamount to a legally binding document, and in this instance it's one with her name on the front of it in the public domain.
She may very well regret the impression that it gives now but to begin retracting elements of it later is not something you would want to get involved with casually. Especially not in an interview and especially when its incontrovertible anyway.

Just to add to your comment, you can't libel a dead person, So Priscilla can say pretty much anything she wants. If she says it happened behind closed doors no-one can ever contest it. Her word against a dead man. She would however have to be fairly confident with dates etc because their are people who would have kept diaries.....

[ehollier]

I've heard Billy Smith say exactly the same thing. Was HE having a dig at Elvis?
Practically everybody who knew Elvis describes his moods as infectious.
That's all she was saying.

I think your hero Jerry Schilling said that a time or two about his friend. Its just a fact that Elvis wanted and almost demanded to be the center of everything.

[Brian]

I've heard Billy Smith say exactly the same thing. Was HE having a dig at Elvis?
Practically everybody who knew Elvis describes his moods as infectious.
That's all she was saying.


once again it was the tone

sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it

[presley31]

I've heard Billy Smith say exactly the same thing. Was HE having a dig at Elvis?
Practically everybody who knew Elvis describes his moods as infectious.
That's all she was saying.

yep teddy billy did say that too .

[Teddy]

even in the ladies home journal interview in 1973 she talks about Mike Stone and she says that Mike Stone is a real man who treats her like a woman.

I took that as a dig at Elvis as well


Should all divorcees be forbidden to discuss their current partners in a positive light for fear of insulting their ex-spouses?

Seriously- if you take Elvis out of these situations (and therefore the sensitivity) you're left with behavior which is totally benign and uncontroversial.
Nothing I've heard here can be described as a 'dig' at anyone.

[Teddy]

Thanks for clarifying that for me Teddy. Then I guess the answer must be that you should think more than twice before deciding to write a book if you don't want to be stuck with the consequences.

Diane

You're absolutely right about that (y)

[Teddy]

once again it was the tone

sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it

I've seen that interview but don't recall anything telling about the tone.
I'll check it out again.

[presley31]

I think sometimes after 31 years its time to move on. I don't believe elvis is at rest when his family is always getting digs thrown at them, but that's my opinion.

[Brian]

Should all divorcees be forbidden to discuss their current partners in a positive light for fear of insulting their ex-spouses?

Seriously- if you take Elvis out of these situations (and therefore the sensitivity) you're left with behavior which is totally benign and uncontroversial.
Nothing I've heard here can be described as a 'dig' at anyone.

there's a lot of people who read those articles and who watch those interviews and would agree with everything i've said
since you like her so much you choose to ignore it and that's okay
if you were to take the blinders off and read the interview in it's context


up until recently Priscilla's acted like poor pitiful me

that's why a lot of fans don't like her but they don't feel that way toward Elvis other women because his other girlfriends don't do that.

she would have more respect and be more liked if she wouldn't of done that.

[presley31]

there's a lot of people who read those articles and who watch those interviews and would agree with everything i've said
since you like her so much you choose to ignore it and that's okay
if you were to take the blinders off and read the interview in it's context


up until recently Priscilla's acted like poor pitiful me

that's why a lot of fans don't like her but they don't feel that way toward Elvis other women because his other girlfriends don't do that.

she would have more respect and be more liked if she wouldn't of done that.

For pete sake enough with the blinders comments. there is no need to saying that at all. Another thing since you want to throw that in there about the blinders, maybe you should take your's off to when it comes to the memphis mafia

[Brian]

I think sometimes after 31 years its time to move on. I don't believe elvis is at rest when his family is always getting digs thrown at them, but that's my opinion.

sometimes Elvis family is throwing digs at him

Personally I believe when your dead your dead and you are not aware of what goes on afterwards. so it doesn't really matter.

[presley31]

sometimes Elvis family is throwing digs at him

Personally I believe when your dead your dead and you are not aware of what goes on afterwards. so it doesn't really matter.

Thats your opinion l think different:)

[Brian]

For pete sake enough with the blinders comments. there is no need to saying that at all. another thing since you want to throw that in there about the blinders, maybe you should take your's off to when it comes to the memphis mafia


i didn't say anything about the memphis mafia
they have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

I'm talking about what Priscilla and what she has said

Teddy's blinded by love that's what I meant

[presley31]

i didn't say anything about the memphis mafia
they have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

I'm talking about what Priscilla and what she has said

Teddy's blinded by love that's what I meant

yes and that his choice, but he doesn't wear blinders or rose coloured glasses.

[Brian]

yes and that his choice, but he doesn't wear blinders or rose coloured glasses.


maybe he does

[franny]

maybe he does

Maybe, you do.

franny

[Albert]

nah it wont get outta hand..we dont know if it really happened-rape...we will never know:king:we can discuss this in acivilized matter..no reason for it to get outta hand

too bad I can't find the source, but during one interview she admitted that the rape suggestion (in the book it was never called raped, but more like 'making love without the love') was made more dramatic. This was because of the publicist who wanted some 'tasty' stuff in the book.

So in all, we can forget about this rumour and put it back in the trashcan.

[Diane]

I agree, I'm quite willing to concede that she never meant for it to come out like that in her book but there is still the movie to explain......maybe that was more of the same??

Diane

[riley]

the rape belongs to the trashcan. If I was her I would never ever have allowed it in the film the way it was presented. She had to think about Lisa in god's name.....

Even if it did happen (which i seriously seriously doubt) things like that she shouldn't have brought to the open then. She always is such a private person etc etc and then she brings that out. Surely she could have put the accent on much better times

[ehollier]

I agree, I'm quite willing to concede that she never meant for it to come out like that in her book but there is still the movie to explain......maybe that was more of the same??

Diane

It was my understanding that her role in the movie was primarily providing the financial backing to get it made. I guess when take an exaggerated situation such as the love scene and put it on screen, it just takes on a life of its own, so to speak.

[ehollier]

the rape belongs to the trashcan. If I was her I would never ever have allowed it in the film the way it was presented. She had to think about Lisa in god's name.....

Even if it did happen (which i seriously seriously doubt) things like that she shouldn't have brought to the open then. She always is such a private person etc etc and then she brings that out. Surely she could have put the accent on much better times

I am willing to bet the truth falls somewhere between the exaggerated story in her book and nothing happening.......Elvis had a gargantuan capacity of anger when provoked. It is possible that there was something that happened, but probably not like in the book or movie. However, I still refer to EWH and the fact that this tale was published long before Priscilla's and I somehow doubt that the MM made it up.

[Diane]

I have no trouble believing that Elvis was very angry when he heard that Priscilla was leaving him, he was known to have a short fuse like his mother, but I have to agree with Liz that the truth was probably exaggerated greatly in the book and yes most likely had to do with the writer.

Diane

[TotallyInsane]

Like most everything else in EWH that was exaggerated!!

[Diane]

I agree there too except in both cases not all was exaggerated and if both the MM and Priscilla hadn't given the writer the fuel, these exaggerations wouldn't have been written.

Bad idea...all the way around.

Diane

[Teddy]

Like most everything else in EWH that was exaggerated!!

Oh yes, you can bet that Dunleavy provided the spin (with E:WH?) just like Sandra Harmon did while ghostwriting E&Me.
And for the same reasons I mentioned about Priscilla earlier, we have almost complete silence from Red and Dave Hebler for years with only a concordant book from Sonny W in the meantime and nothing of substance refuted by any of them, despite all the contrition.

[Teddy]

there's a lot of people who read those articles and who watch those interviews and would agree with everything i've said
since you like her so much you choose to ignore it and that's okay
if you were to take the blinders off and read the interview in it's context


I know and all those people have trouble seeing outside of the box about Priscilla too as a result of their unquestioning support for Elvis.
I would never willingly choose to ignore anything. I admit that my opinion is affected by terrifyingly strong feelings for Priscilla but I endeavor to exercise objectivity wherever possible. :)

If anything, I have a slight advantage in the objectivity stakes because I love them both.

[Teddy]

up until recently Priscilla's acted like poor pitiful me

that's why a lot of fans don't like her but they don't feel that way toward Elvis other women because his other girlfriends don't do that.

she would have more respect and be more liked if she wouldn't of done that.

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.
The other girlfriends were tourists in Elvis's life by comparison. Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.
Again, if we were talking about anybody in the world other than Elvis Presley I sincerely doubt if you would feel like this, given the circumstances.

[ehollier]

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.
The other girlfriends were tourists in Elvis's life by comparison. Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.
Again, if we were talking about anybody in the world other than Elvis Presley I sincerely doubt if you would feel like this, given the circumstances.

Very interesting comparison.....but pretty much correct. ;)

[Lainey]

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.


Sadly, by her own admission, she was selfishly willing to abort the child. Thank goodness she had a change of mind.

[presley31]

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.
The other girlfriends were tourists in Elvis's life by comparison. Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.
Again, if we were talking about anybody in the world other than Elvis Presley I sincerely doubt if you would feel like this, given the circumstances.

sure got a way with words teddy. I only wish my posts look like your's at times:blush::lol:

[ehollier]

sure got a way with words teddy. I only wish my posts look like your's at times:blush::lol:

I know. I absolutely just love reading the stuff Teddy writes. Too bad he doesn't have more time or opportunity to post more often.

[TotallyInsane]

I know. I absolutely just love reading the stuff Teddy writes. Too bad he doesn't have more time or opportunity to post more often.

You don't say??? :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Teddy]

Sadly, by her own admission, she was selfishly willing to abort the child.

She didn't.
Thank God that the Thought Police don't penalize our unworldly considerations just yet.

[TotallyInsane]

She didn't.
Thank God that the Thought Police don't penalize our unworldly considerations just yet.

Just wait Teddy - that may be coming next!!

[Teddy]

Nothing would surprise me here, Gail :lol:

[ehollier]

You don't say??? :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Lainey]

She didn't.
Thank God that the Thought Police don't penalize our unworldly considerations just yet.

I think I mentioned that thank goodness she didn't. I just can't imagine having that in print for said child to read.

[Teddy]

I just can't imagine having that in print for said child to read.
I'm right with you there. (y)

[Brian]

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.
The other girlfriends were tourists in Elvis's life by comparison. Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.
Again, if we were talking about anybody in the world other than Elvis Presley I sincerely doubt if you would feel like this, given the circumstances.

I don't agree with your comparison,Elvis other girlfriends and Priscilla

it's the same thing Anita Wood and Linda Thompson are well liked by most fans compared to Priscilla because they don't take these digs at Elvis that priscilla use to.

My original point was not only did Priscilla turn off a lot of fans on her she turned a lot of fans off of Elvis which isn't smart. If Priscilla would have talked nicer about Elvis back then she'd have more fans and she'd make more money.

[presley31]

I don't agree with your comparison,Elvis other girlfriends and Priscilla

it's the same thing Anita Wood and Linda Thompson are well liked by most fans compared to Priscilla because they don't take these digs at Elvis that priscilla use to.

My original point was not only did Priscilla turn off a lot of fans on her she turned a lot of fans off of Elvis which isn't smart. If Priscilla would have talked nicer about Elvis back then she'd have more fans and she'd make more money.

I have to disgree with that statement

No real fan would be turned off of elvis cause of priscilla, if anything they take her with a grain of salt and come to think of it there is alot of younger fans coming into elvis world and thats what elvis would of wanted so yes she did wrong in many areas, but 31 years later seems to long to go on about something that can't be changed.

[Brian]

I have to disgree with that statement

No real fan would be turned off of elvis cause of priscilla, if anything they take her with a grain of salt and come to think of it there is alot of younger fans coming into elvis world and thats what elvis would of wanted so yes she did wrong in many areas, but 31 years later seems to long to go on about something that can't be changed.

I didn't mean she turned off fans that already liked Elvis she turned off potential new fans. Think of all the young fans Elvis has now he probably would have had more.

[presley31]

I didn't mean she turned off fans that already liked Elvis she turned off potential new fans. Think of all the young fans Elvis has now he probably would have had more.

Think we going have agree and disgree.

[Brian]

I am willing to bet the truth falls somewhere between the exaggerated story in her book and nothing happening.......Elvis had a gargantuan capacity of anger when provoked. It is possible that there was something that happened, but probably not like in the book or movie. However, I still refer to EWH and the fact that this tale was published long before Priscilla's and I somehow doubt that the MM made it up.


your'e right it was written in EWH before Priscilla's book

I bet the story has some truth to it

It's possible that Elvis was angry and loaded on pills

Priscilla doesn't use the R word in her book but the way she describes it would qualify

[Lainey]

I didn't mean she turned off fans that already liked Elvis she turned off potential new fans. Think of all the young fans Elvis has now he probably would have had more.

I tend to think that the new, younger fans like Priscilla. They hear her telling her story and see her as the living connection to Elvis.

[Brian]

Think we going have agree and disgree.


you don't think she turned off some people that might of liked Elvis in the
80's with her book and the t.v. movie her book was based on?

a lot of people thought her book didn't really speak highly of Elvis as she portrayed herself as a victim and they felt it portrayed Elvis as a jerk. now me personally I thought her book was boring and didn't really contain anything new or juicy except for that whole madonna thing and considering Priscilla lived with Elvis for 10 years I expected more but that's just me.

[presley31]

you don't think she turned off some people that might of liked Elvis in the
80's with her book and the t.v. movie her book was based on?

a lot of people thought her book didn't really speak highly of Elvis as she portrayed herself as a victim and they felt it portrayed Elvis as a jerk. now me personally I thought her book was boring and didn't really contain anything new or juicy except for that whole madonna thing and considering Priscilla lived with Elvis for 10 years I expected more but that's just me.

Nope l don't agree.

if any fans get turned off of elvis by priscilla than surly the mm must have them running for the hills so either way fans are going to come and go so it pointless runnning around pointing fingers. if any fan reads what priscilla writes than thats there choice to make how they feel. Its not about taking sides or who did the wrong, but its elvis who matters and latey we seem be getting alot of new fans liking elvis and that is brilliant. This is my last post to you cause we are not going to see the same way on this so lets move on.

[utmom2008]

Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.


Or old enough to drive, to drink or vote.;);)

[ehollier]

Oh yes, you can bet that Dunleavy provided the spin (with E:WH?) just like Sandra Harmon did while ghostwriting E&Me.
And for the same reasons I mentioned about Priscilla earlier, we have almost complete silence from Red and Dave Hebler for years with only a concordant book from Sonny W in the meantime and nothing of substance refuted by any of them, despite all the contrition.

Regarding the sensationalism in E:WH and the contempt in Albert Goldman's "Elvis", Peter Guralnick gave an interview wherein he spoke of the aforementioned books. His claim was that both books, albeit negatively written, were factual. When doing research for his own book, he found sources and proof that backed up the anecdotes in these books. Mr. Guralnick's great respect for Elvis allowed him to present the facts in a more sensitive manner as not to offend those fans who would eventually read his books.

[Donut]

Elvis's other girlfriends didn't gestate his child or experience any more than a fraction of the same liability.
The other girlfriends were tourists in Elvis's life by comparison. Priscilla was assimilated into it before she was even old enough to provide an informed opinion on it.
Again, if we were talking about anybody in the world other than Elvis Presley I sincerely doubt if you would feel like this, given the circumstances.

:rolleyes:

Linda was not a tourist in Elvis' life. She stood by him for some of the worst years of his life. You can't even compare the two of them, Linda has class and mostly keeps her mouth shut.

[Getlo]

Regarding the sensationalism in E:WH and the contempt in Albert Goldman's "Elvis", Peter Guralnick gave an interview wherein he spoke of the aforementioned books. His claim was that both books, albeit negatively written, were factual.

Guralnick is entirely correct.

Many blinkered fans refuse to admit it.

[Donut]

I agree there too except in both cases not all was exaggerated and if both the MM and Priscilla hadn't given the writer the fuel, these exaggerations wouldn't have been written.

Bad idea...all the way around.

Diane

Of course not (y)

I would LOVE that Marco Garibaldi wrote a book about Priscilla and all the details about her private life. After all he spent many years with her and they had a child together so he earned the right to spill the beans.

[Getlo]

I would LOVE that Marco Garibaldi wrote a book about Priscilla and all the details about her private life. After all he spent many years with her and they had a child together so he earned the right to spill the beans.

Just like the MM earned the right to spill their beans, eh?

[Donut]

Just like the MM earned the right to spill their beans, eh?

Yes, just like them.

[MissyM]

So she goes to his room and tells him she is having and affair with someone he considered his friend. When he tries to have his way with her she just lets him and then says he was ruff?? Not saying it isn't true, but she could have walked to the door, opened it and gotten out. Or she could have yelled NOOOOOO! very loud. I feel sorry for her if she went along with it and it was unpleasant. But it was her choice really.

[Diane]

Sure anyone has the right to write a book and say what they want but then they shouldn't be surprised at the reactions of the readers who feel the tone and what was said in the book was disrespectful and inappropriate.

They wanna write the book..fine...take the consequences.

Diane

[presley31]

agree diane

i wouldn't write a book out of fear what the public would think and not to forgot the writers like to make it sound so juicy. Maybe this is why We won't hear lisa side of the story cause she knows what happens and doesn't want that risk.

[utmom2008]

:rolleyes:

Linda was not a tourist in Elvis' life. She stood by him for some of the worst years of his life. You can't even compare the two of them, Linda has class and mostly keeps her mouth shut.

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

His claim was that both books, albeit negatively written, were factual.

My biggest problem with Goldman's book is the obvious contempt that he has for those of us from the South.:blink::blink:

[ehollier]

My biggest problem with Goldman's book is the obvious contempt that he has for those of us from the South.:blink::blink:

Agreed; however, it doesn't negate the facts in the book. My point of comparing Goldman and E:WH to Peter Guralnick's books is that the facts in all of the books are the same, however, an author that has respect for the subject matter makes all the difference in the world.

[ehollier]

My biggest problem with Goldman's book is the obvious contempt that he has for those of us from the South.:blink::blink:

And besides, what does Albert Goldman know?? People born and breed in the South are the best kind. Where else can you go and have excellent food, exceptional manners, innovative music, the friendliest of people, and a beautiful landscape year round???? ;)

[Teddy]

Or old enough to drive, to drink or vote.;);)

Exactly (y)

[Unique Dog]

Like your pic Donut.....

[Donut]

Like your pic Donut.....

It's the same as yours :lol:

[utmom2008]

Like your pic Donut.....


It's the same as yours :lol:

:supriced::supriced: Uh-oh.....this could be confusing!;):lol:

[Sonny]

Stay on topic.

[Brian]

I heard this rumor that Elvis and Priscilla got into this real bad fight while they were married and Priscilla punched Elvis in the face and hit him in the back of the head with something, and just beat him up real bad.

is that true

[utmom2008]

I heard this rumor that Elvis and Priscilla got into this real bad fight while they were married and Priscilla punched Elvis in the face and hit him in the back of the head with something, and just beat him up real bad.

is that true

Where did you hear that?:supriced::supriced:

[Diane]

Sorry, but I can't see that happening...

Diane

[Donut]

What??? :lol: I can't believe it either.

[MissyM]

I heard she threw a vase across the room when the argued about Ann Margaret.

[Lainey]

I heard she threw a vase across the room when the argued about Ann Margaret.

I've read about that one.

[ehollier]

I heard this rumor that Elvis and Priscilla got into this real bad fight while they were married and Priscilla punched Elvis in the face and hit him in the back of the head with something, and just beat him up real bad.

is that true

Sounds quite unlikely. Seems like that would have been a story that would have been repeated again and again.

[Lainey]

I heard this rumor that Elvis and Priscilla got into this real bad fight while they were married and Priscilla punched Elvis in the face and hit him in the back of the head with something, and just beat him up real bad.

is that true

I just can't imagine Elvis tolerating a situation like this. Not only would he have tossed her suitcase and clothes at her, he would have shoved her into the suitcase as well. :supriced:

[Merry]

And besides, what does Albert Goldman know?? People born and breed in the South are the best kind. Where else can you go and have excellent food, exceptional manners, innovative music, the friendliest of people, and a beautiful landscape year round???? ;)

Hi E,

Has the South managed to stay pretty unaffected by modern times?

[ehollier]

Hi E,

Has the South managed to stay pretty unaffected by modern times?


ABSOLUTLEY!!!!!!;););) We seems to move to our own beat, as to speak.......

[midnight]

I agree, if that was true we would of heard a lot more about these types of stories from people who had witnessed it. If it happened between the two of them then that leaves only Priscilla to tell that story and I am sure she would never want people to think that "she would ever do such a thing"! :supriced:

[Merry]

ABSOLUTLEY!!!!!!;););) We seems to move to our own beat, as to speak.......


You are so, so, lucky! I'd love to have that back!

Wow. :hug:

[midnight]

And besides, what does Albert Goldman know?? People born and breed in the South are the best kind. Where else can you go and have excellent food, exceptional manners, innovative music, the friendliest of people, and a beautiful landscape year round???? ;)

Where else can you go??? Here in good old Newfoundland. The worlds' best kept secret. Best food, music, the friendliest people and the absolute best scenery in the world!:lmfao::lmfao: Sorry I could not resist. Now back on topic!

[utmom2008]

If so...Elvis could have shown her this...:lol:

28334

[ehollier]

Where else can you go??? Here in good old Newfoundland. The worlds' best kept secret. Best food, music, the friendliest people and the absolute best scenery in the world!:lmfao::lmfao: Sorry I could not resist. Now back on topic!

If it was much much warmer, I bet it would be a great place to live. ;)

[Merry]

Where else can you go??? Here in good old Newfoundland. The worlds' best kept secret. Best food, music, the friendliest people and the absolute best scenery in the world!:lmfao::lmfao: Sorry I could not resist. Now back on topic!


Sorry for going off topic, my fault; however, I'm gobsmacked and pleasantly surprised! Thank you. Wow, you are soooo lucky!

Kimmi

[midnight]

Sorry for going off topic, my fault; however, I'm gobsmacked and pleasantly surprised! Thank you. Wow, you are soooo lucky!

Kimmi


It is true Jess.....I live in a beautiful province!

[Brian]

Where did you hear that?:supriced::supriced:


I heard it from Cecil Smith

the story goes that Priscilla started hitting Elvis over his womanizing on the road and because Priscilla was a woman Elvis wouldn't hit her back.
so she just whaled on him and he got a bruise or two.
Cecil wouldn't lie but it may just be a long standing rumor that he heard and repeated it to me and others.

I'm surprised no one else has heard it as it's been around

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true as this sort of thing happens sometimes between couples unfortunately.

[presley31]

I heard it from Cecil Smith

the story goes that Priscilla started hitting Elvis over his womanizing on the road and because Priscilla was a woman Elvis wouldn't hit her back.
so she just whaled on him and he got a bruise or two.
Cecil wouldn't lie but it may just be a long standing rumor that he heard and repeated it to me and others.

I'm surprised no one else has heard it as it's been around

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true as this sort of thing happens sometimes between couples unfortunately.

Don't buy it. Elvis wouldn't put up with that by any woman and if this was true it wouldn't be kept in the dark but blown wide open:blink:

[Brian]

Don't buy it. Elvis wouldn't put up with that by any woman and if this was true it wouldn't be kept in the dark but blown wide open:blink:


Cecil's a pretty reliable source

[franny]

Don't buy it. Elvis wouldn't put up with that by any woman and if this was true it wouldn't be kept in the dark but blown wide open:blink:

I don't buy it either, Jen. This story would have made the rounds by now, but looks like it might still do that :P it's just gossip!

franny

[presley31]

Cecil's a pretty reliable source

I'am sorry but elvis would of kicked her butt back to her parents and had nothing else to do with her.

[Brian]

I'am sorry but elvis would of kicked her butt back to her parents and had nothing else to do with her.

this supposedly happened when they were married

[presley31]

this supposedly happened when they were married

If this was true than it would be in Childbride and the world would know cause nobody would let priscilla slip away with this one at all.

[Brian]

If this was true than it would be in Childbride and the world would know cause nobody would let priscilla slip away with this one at all.

it's embarrassing to get beat up by a woman so maybe Elvis kept it to himself and besides Cecil knows his stuff.

[presley31]

it's embarrassing to get beat up by a woman so maybe Elvis kept it to himself and besides Cecil knows his stuff.

still don't buy it, but it's time to move on cause your not not to get any agreement out of me.

[franny]

I heard it from Cecil Smith

the story goes that Priscilla started hitting Elvis over his womanizing on the road and because Priscilla was a woman Elvis wouldn't hit her back.
so she just whaled on him and he got a bruise or two.
Cecil wouldn't lie but it may just be a long standing rumor that he heard and repeated it to me and others.

I'm surprised no one else has heard it as it's been around

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true as this sort of thing happens sometimes between couples unfortunately.

As you were saying...it may just be a long standing rumor. :blink:
We know how rumors get started, let's not add to it...

franny

[Brian]

As you were saying...it may just be a long standing rumor. :blink:
We know how rumors get started, let's not add to it...

franny

I see nothing wrong with it, just discussing it even if it's a rumor at least for now.

After all If Priscilla was on a Franny message board she would talk about rumors and gossip about you so it's okay.

[presley31]

I see nothing wrong with it, just discussing it even if it's a rumor at least for now.

After all If Priscilla was on a Franny message board she would talk about rumors and gossip about you so it's okay.

This isn't a priscilla board but a elvis one;)

[Brian]

still don't buy it, but it's time to move on cause your not not to get any agreement out of me.

it's Cecil you'll hurt his feelings

I bet you'd be surprised and shocked if this was true after all.

[franny]

I see nothing wrong with it, just discussing it even if it's a rumor at least for now.

After all If Priscilla was on a Franny message board she would talk about rumors and gossip about you so it's okay.

You aren't discussing it Brian, you're just going on about it in circles..and you're words were it may be just a rumor, so what is there to discuss?? :blink:

I think I like that a Franny message Board! (y)

This is an Elvis message board, you seem to only want to discuss Priscilla more than Elvis...:hmm:and don't speak for other's not everyone is into gossip and rumors as you appear to be!

franny

[Brian]

This isn't a priscilla board but a elvis one;)


There have been many Priscilla threads on this board and this particular thread is related to Elvis so it's okay

[presley31]

There have been many Priscilla threads on this board and this particular thread is related to Elvis so it's okay

You have posted on quite a few priscilla threads and now you decided to bring this on..strange is all l have to say.:blink:

[Brian]

You aren't discussing it Brian, you're just going on about it in circles..and you're words were it may be just a rumor, so what is there to discuss?? :blink:

I think I like that a Franny message Board! (y)

This is an Elvis message board, you seem to only want to discuss Priscilla more than Elvis...:hmm:and don't speak for other's not everyone is into gossip and rumors as you appear to be!

franny

Yes on this particular day I do. Priscilla's apart of Elvis life so it's okay to discuss her

who cares if it's just gossip or rumors Priscilla would talk gossip about you if the shoe was on the other foot.


don't have a heart attack

[Brian]

You have posted on quite a few priscilla threads and now you decided to bring this on..strange is all l have to say.:blink:


yes on some of them I decided to join the discussion

I don't think it's strange at all

[franny]

Yes on this particular day I do. Priscilla's apart of Elvis life so it's okay to discuss her

who cares if it's just gossip or rumors Priscilla would talk gossip about you if the shoe was on the other foot.


don't have a heart attack

We all get you don't like Priscilla, but why you're going on about it, is beyond me...Why don't you print where Cecil said that!

Uncalled for to say "don't have a heart attack" You have a way with words, Brian. (n)

franny

[presley31]

We all get you don't like Priscilla, but why you're going on about it, is beyond me...Why don't you print where Cecil said that!

Uncalled for to say "don't have a heart attack" You have a way with words, Brian. (n)

franny

well said my friend. Little proof goes along way;)

[Brian]

We all get you don't like Priscilla, but why you're going on about it, is beyond me...Why don't you print where Cecil said that!

Uncalled for to say "don't have a heart attack" You have a way with words, Brian. (n)

franny


you know i'll ask Cecil

when i said don't have a ''heart attack'' I meant don't take it so seriously I was only asking if anyone had heard the story about Priscilla and Elvis then when Jen didn't believe it I was joking about how it would hurt Cecil's feelings.
I was only teasing a little bit but sometimes it gets lost in the translation because we are all just typing words.
I personally don't care if Priscilla beat up Elvis but I wanted to see if the story had spread to tcb-world

[TotallyInsane]

I heard some stories about you Brian - can I put them here on TCB? I'm not sure if they're true or not but does it really matter?

[ehollier]

Yes on this particular day I do. Priscilla's apart of Elvis life so it's okay to discuss her

who cares if it's just gossip or rumors Priscilla would talk gossip about you if the shoe was on the other foot.


don't have a heart attack


Don't we have enough unsubstantiated stories circling around about Priscilla without purposely adding insult to injury??????? I think we need to let this one die. And as far as my opinion, if she did beat him, maybe he deserved it? As far as hurting Cecil's feelings, he shouldn't be spreading gossip in the first place!!

I don't know, but its nothing but a bunch of hooey, so lets move on......

[franny]

I heard some stories about you Brian - can I put them here on TCB? I'm not sure if they're true or not but does it really matter?

Yes, Gail. Please share some stories about Brian. We can all discuss it whether it's true or not...;)

franny

[ehollier]

I heard some stories about you Brian - can I put them here on TCB? I'm not sure if they're true or not but does it really matter?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Brian]

I heard some stories about you Brian - can I put them here on TCB? I'm not sure if they're true or not but does it really matter?


I doubt you've heard stories about me but if you have there probably true

yes as an Elvis fan I wanted to know if anyone had heard about it.

[Merry]

I would like to go as far and say that this particular conversation should be deleted, please? Mods???

"Rumour just for now".

I don't care what Cecil or anyone says. For Heavens sake, if Cecil wasn't there, then it is heresay, anyway. It is no-one's business!

Can't people leave things alone? Geezzzzz

What will be discussing next? :mad: "Rumour just for now". :mad:

Who wants to hear more? Not me!!!:mad:

[Merry]

I doubt you've heard stories about me but if you have there probably true

yes as an Elvis fan I wanted to know if anyone had heard about it.


It's easy to start a 'rumour just for now'.

[Brian]

Don't we have enough unsubstantiated stories circling around about Priscilla without purposely adding insult to injury??????? I think we need to let this one die. And as far as my opinion, if she did beat him, maybe he deserved it? As far as hurting Cecil's feelings, he shouldn't be spreading gossip in the first place!!

I don't know, but its nothing but a bunch of hooey, so lets move on......

it's not about Priscilla really it's more about Elvis

if Priscilla had beat up someone else then it would be totally about Priscilla.

[Brian]

I would like to go as far and say that this particular conversation should be deleted, please? Mods???

"Rumour just for now".

I don't care what Cecil or anyone says. For Heavens sake, if Cecil wasn't there, then it is heresay, anyway. It is no-one's business!

Can't people leave things alone? Geezzzzz

What will be discussing next? :mad: "Rumour just for now". :mad:

Who wants to hear more? Not me!!!:mad:

I meant ''it's a rumor just for now'' as I''ll ask Cecil where he got this from and see If I can confirm this.

[presley31]

it's not about Priscilla really it's more about Elvis

if Priscilla had beat up someone else then it would be totally about Priscilla.

You calling elvis a pushover then?? let the gossip stop here!

[ehollier]

I doubt you've heard stories about me but if you have there probably true

yes as an Elvis fan I wanted to know if anyone had heard about it.

To bring this issue to a quick close, I think I can safely speak for my fellow TCBers here and say "no, no one has heard this RUMOR!!!"

[Merry]

I meant ''it's a rumor just for now'' as I''ll ask Cecil where he got this from and see If I can confirm this.



I don't want to know, Brian.

I'd be disgusted if you did.

[presley31]

Another thing is why isn't this Cecil anywhere on google except being listed as a figure skater?? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Cecil+smith&meta=

[Brian]

I would like to go as far and say that this particular conversation should be deleted, please? Mods???

"Rumour just for now".

I don't care what Cecil or anyone says. For Heavens sake, if Cecil wasn't there, then it is heresay, anyway. It is no-one's business!

Can't people leave things alone? Geezzzzz

What will be discussing next? :mad: "Rumour just for now". :mad:

Who wants to hear more? Not me!!!:mad:

There are plenty of stories about Elvis I thought I would address it

we've discussed plenty of things about Elvis and Priscilla before so why not

[ehollier]

Another thing is why isn't this Cecil anywhere on google except being listed as a figure skater?? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Cecil+smith&meta=


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[ehollier]

There are plenty of stories about Elvis I thought I would address it

we've discussed plenty of things about Elvis and Priscilla before so why not

Excuse me, Brian......

[Brian]

Another thing is why isn't this Cecil anywhere on google except being listed as a figure skater?? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Cecil+smith&meta=



Cecil is a big fan of music in general as well as Elvis and all things about Elvis
he's a school teacher and a personal friend of mine.

I don't know why he'd be on google he's very shy and not a celeb

[presley31]

Excuse me, Brian......


Hi liz

Isn't this supposed to be a elvis forum?? or have l been lost all this time:lol:

[franny]

To bring this issue to a quick close, I think I can safely speak for my fellow TCBers here and say "no, no one has heard this RUMOR!!!"

Right, Liz. Nobody has heard it before, it's just Brian bringing it to our attention...from Cecil :blink: :lmfao:


I don't want to know, Brian.

I'd be disgusted if you did.

Me too, Kimmi. (y)


Another thing is why isn't this Cecil anywhere on google except being listed as a figure skater?? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Cecil+smith&meta=

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Brian]

To bring this issue to a quick close, I think I can safely speak for my fellow TCBers here and say "no, no one has heard this RUMOR!!!"


Thank you

was that so hard

[ehollier]

Hi liz

Isn't this supposed to be a elvis forum?? or have l been lost all this time:lol:

Well, at least we know that Cecil is an 'insider' to the Presley camp.....a figure skater, teacher and music fan. I'm sure anything he says must be gossip.......errrrrrr, gospel........:lol:

[franny]

Cecil is a big fan of music in general as well as Elvis and all things about Elvis
he's a school teacher and a personal friend of mine.

I don't know why he'd be on google he's very shy and not a celeb

Please, google doesn't know he's shy :lol:

franny

[presley31]

Cecil is a big fan of music in general as well as Elvis and all things about Elvis
he's a school teacher and a personal friend of mine.

I don't know why he'd be on google he's very shy and not a celeb

so he isn't family:doh: well..that solved my confusion:supriced:

[Merry]

There are plenty of stories about Elvis I thought I would address it

we've discussed plenty of things about Elvis and Priscilla before so why not



Mainly because if this is what Cecil likes to talk about, (who is he, again?) it's disrespectful and gossip mongering. Which, in my opinion, is very low. It is also heresay, unless he was in the bed, too.

If you love someone, if you were friends or family of them, you should keep things to yourself, unless they are flattering.

Think of Thumper. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". What happens between a husband and wife, or partners, stays there.

[ehollier]

Please, google doesn't know he's shy :lol:

franny

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But he's a music fan and knows these inside stories, Franny......:supriced:

[franny]

Well, at least we know that Cecil is an 'insider' to the Presley camp.....a figure skater, teacher and music fan. I'm sure anything he says must be gossip.......errrrrrr, gospel........:lol:

Liz, I really don't know what happened to your thread lol we went from discussing Priscilla attending the closing show to her beating up Elvis :flex: :lmfao:

franny

[Brian]

Well, at least we know that Cecil is an 'insider' to the Presley camp.....a figure skater, teacher and music fan. I'm sure anything he says must be gossip.......errrrrrr, gospel........:lol:


If you knew Cecil you wouldn't say that

[ehollier]

Liz, I really don't know what happened to your thread lol we went from discussing Priscilla attending the closing show to her beating up Elvis :flex: :lmfao:

franny


You know Franny, I was thinking the same thing......maybe Cecil knows what happened....:lol:

[franny]

If you knew Cecil you wouldn't say that

Maybe, Liz heard a rumour about Cecil...:P

franny

[presley31]

If you knew Cecil you wouldn't say that

Than please inform us about your friend. stating with figure skating??

[ehollier]

Than please inform us about your friend. stating with figure skating??

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[presley31]

It's been along time since l had a good laugh on these threads, but the figure skating part bought me to tears.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

Maybe, Liz heard a rumour about Cecil...:P

franny

Can't say I have, Franny :P ..... Since Brian is actually giving us this insider information from some person named Cecil, I think Cecil should come on the board and speak for himself and share his Elvis and Priscilla knowledge because apparently he has some scoop that not even the 100's of authors that have written about Elvis and his long relationship with Priscilla have even heard of......:lol:

[Brian]

Mainly because if this is what Cecil likes to talk about, (who is he, again?) it's disrespectful and gossip mongering. Which, in my opinion, is very low. It is also heresay, unless he was in the bed, too.

If you love someone, if you were friends or family of them, you should keep things to yourself, unless they are flattering.

Think of Thumper. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". What happens between a husband and wife, or partners, stays there.

Cecil means well

he's actually a nice person and not disrespectful

hey maybe I could get Cecil to become a member on this board

[franny]

It's been along time since l had a good laugh on these threads, but the figure skating part bought me to tears.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Same here, Jen. :lmfao: :lmfao:


Can't say I have, Franny :P ..... Since Brian is actually giving us this insider information from some person named Cecil, I think Cecil should come on the board and speak for himself and share his Elvis and Priscilla knowledge because apparently he has some scoop that not even the 100's of authors that have written about Elvis and his long relationship with Priscilla have even heard of......:lol:

I agree, Liz. Maybe, Brian can ask Cecil to come on here and share this information with us...since it's just a rumour for now :lol:


franny

[ehollier]

Cecil means well

he's actually a nice person and not disrespectful

hey maybe I could get Cecil to become a member on this board

Cecil's character is not in question, spreading gossip of this nature, notwithstanding, but, in my opinion (for what that's worth???), I don't think you should be spreading 3rd and 4th hand rumors on this board. Having a discussion about an actual event is one thing, discussing hypothetical situations is another, but unless you have substantiated information about these sort of things, please do not spread it here. Try another board if you must, but please not here.

[Merry]

Jen, you got me going.

I had an Uncle Cecil, who was really gruff, he fought in WW11, etc..

Skating, tu-tu....oh dear....

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[presley31]

Jen, you got me going.

I had an Uncle Cecil, who was really gruff, he fought in WW11, etc..

Skating, tu-tu....oh dear....

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-017.GIF

[Merry]

Cecil's character is not in question, spreading gossip of this nature, notwithstanding, but, in my opinion (for what that's worth???), I don't think you should be spreading 3rd and 4th hand rumors on this board. Having a discussion about an actual event is one thing, discussing hypothetical situations is another, but unless you have substantiated information about these sort of things, please do not spread it here. Try another board if you must, but please not here.


Beautifully said.

Sorry Brian, but I agree 100% with e.

[ehollier]

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-017.GIF


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[ehollier]

You know, for a minute I thought that this "Cecil" person was some real insider that I maybe had overlooked in all of my reading...........but after it became apparent that he wasn't, and then Jen says "figure skater", that did crack me.........;)

[Brian]

Cecil's character is not in question, spreading gossip of this nature, notwithstanding, but, in my opinion (for what that's worth???), I don't think you should be spreading 3rd and 4th hand rumors on this board. Having a discussion about an actual event is one thing, discussing hypothetical situations is another, but unless you have substantiated information about these sort of things, please do not spread it here. Try another board if you must, but please not here.

spreading it really wasn't my intention I just wanted to know if anyone here had heard of it. Roseanne asked me where I got it so I told her.

Like I said earlier other people have talked about romurs and speculated about Elvis and Priscilla so it's nothing new besides Priscilla would spread rumours and gossip about you without a thought besides I didn't start the story it's been around since before I came to this board.

[TotallyInsane]

Hey look guys I found Cecil on YouTube:

pOj_QoSH6is

[franny]

Cecil's character is not in question, spreading gossip of this nature, notwithstanding, but, in my opinion (for what that's worth???), I don't think you should be spreading 3rd and 4th hand rumors on this board. Having a discussion about an actual event is one thing, discussing hypothetical situations is another, but unless you have substantiated information about these sort of things, please do not spread it here. Try another board if you must, but please not here.

Well said, Liz. (y)

Funny, that nobody heard this story before...it's not written anywhere...:hmm:

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-017.GIF

Thanks, for the laugh Jen. :lmfao: :lmfao:

franny

[franny]

Hey look guys I found Cecil on YouTube:

pOj_QoSH6is

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao::lmfao:

[Merry]

Hey look guys I found Cecil on YouTube:

pOj_QoSH6is



Cecil is soooo clever! See how proud he was of himself? Who is his friend? Ceciline? lol See her lifting her leg up? lol Those jumps! I'm sitting here grinning. We have a new friends. Congo-Judy-Jonny.

:D Bravo!!!! (I loved Tarzan with Ron Ely, Jai and Cheetah :D)

Wonder if Elvis knew/met Ron? He looked like a really nice man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDL9pnpXXOU

[Brian]

Cecil is soooo clever! See how proud he was of himself? Who is his friend? Ceciline? lol See her lifting her leg up? lol Those jumps! I'm sitting here grinning. We have a new friends. Congo-Judy-Jonny.

:D Bravo!!!! (I loved Tarzan with Ron Ely, Jai and Cheetah :D)

Wonder if Elvis knew/met Ron? He looked like a really nice man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDL9pnpXXOU







Why is everybody making fun of Cecil all of sudden?

he didn't do anything to anyone