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Vegas King
11-28-2008, 04:04 AM
I was wondering.......
Elvis had recipes for all medications he used in late '70,right?
I'm sure that Parker really didn't care about Elvis' Health.
He used His to get the money so he could spend it in casinos all over Las Vegas.
Did Colonel force Elvis to take all kind's of suspicion medications?

hounddog
11-28-2008, 04:16 AM
Elvis took his meds, he sought out doctors to supply him when other doctors wouldn't sadly he had an addiction. I don't think the Col would risk Elvis dying by giving him the wrong meds after all Elvis was his only income

Dino78
11-28-2008, 04:32 AM
No I dont't think so at all.
Parker was responsible for the business and as far as I know never took influence on Elvis' personal life. All that matters for him was that Elvis appeared on stage or was doing the movies, etc. But with that their relationship ended. You can put the blame on Parkers shoulders but not in such a direct way. It was Elvis decision to take these medications, not Parkers. Neither forced Parker Elvis to take 'em nor gave him Parker the prescribtions.
He should had take care of Elvis' health but would Elvis ever had allowed him to do so?

Getlo
11-28-2008, 04:46 AM
Parker loved Elvis, despite what the The Colonel's critics would have you believe.

He - along with select others - tried to get Elvis off the drugs, many times; but to no avail. Elvis did not listen.

Eventually, Parker's frustration was such that - because of Elvis' neglect having an affect on Elvis the product - he finally blew his cool and told the MM etc that Elvis had to get up on stage "no matter what".

And fair enough too.

You can only do so much to help an addict.

Parker did as much as he could, but it was up to Elvis to respond.

Elvis killed Elvis.

No one else.

Albert
11-28-2008, 04:57 AM
No, Elvis killed Elvis.... plain and simple...

If wanting to point a finger to someone, I'd suggest to point them to Gladys for example. She's the one who raised him overprotective and responsible for his mother-syndrom. And besides that, she was the alcoholic (which probably caused her death with the abused liver).

No, blaming Parker is too easy. Eventually Elvis hired Parker, Elvis agreed with the deals that have been made, Elvis didn't force Parker into making different deals and Elvis was the one who kept on eating and the one who abused his body as a drug (medicine) addict.

goodelvisgirl
11-28-2008, 04:57 AM
yup i agree that elvis killed elvis but alot of people like col tom pushed elvis into that path by not allowing him to be the performer and artist he knew he could be with the constant tours and work schedule i'm sure it all took a toll on elvis and his mental state so he turned to his addiction to help him through i think he was partly to blame for the reasons behind it but not all his fault elvis could have stood up to him and himself

MissyM
11-28-2008, 05:36 AM
No. But lets clarify some thing about Gladys. One does not learn to become addictive from watching an addict. No one knows if her death was caused by drinking too much. Yes she liked to drink but a true alcholic, I don't know about that.
As for that Momma's Boy syndrome people talk of, I do not think it was a factor in his death at all. For one thing Elvis was born a Wild Child and as a kid was quite adventurous and rebellious. That's one reason why this mother with only one child worried about him a lot. Did she love him too much, I don't think so. Were they very bonded, of course. Elvis was not close to his father untill later, so that was pretty natural. His mother... in his busy, a bit crazy life was his security. (untill she died)

presley31
11-28-2008, 06:25 AM
No, Elvis killed Elvis.... plain and simple...

If wanting to point a finger to someone, I'd suggest to point them to Gladys for example. She's the one who raised him overprotective and responsible for his mother-syndrom. And besides that, she was the alcoholic (which probably caused her death with the abused liver).

No, blaming Parker is too easy. Eventually Elvis hired Parker, Elvis agreed with the deals that have been made, Elvis didn't force Parker into making different deals and Elvis was the one who kept on eating and the one who abused his body as a drug (medicine) addict.

I agree(y)(y)

JerryNodak
11-28-2008, 06:48 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself. The first one almost everyone wants to blame for something "bad" in Elvis' life is Colonel Parker. Not saying he's blameless or didn't make some questionalable decisions, but in the end Elvis pretty much just stood by and let things happen. In the end we (and this means Elvis, too) are responsible for our life. We must take charge and be responsible. Elvis wasn't very good at that. Actions (or in Elvis' case many times in-action) has consequences. They next time you want to blame someone for the way Elvis' life turned out take out a photo of Elvis and stare at it for awhile. Don't give me this "poor Elvis" nonsense.

Tony Trout
11-28-2008, 06:49 AM
Parker loved Elvis, despite what the The Colonel's critics would have you believe.

He - along with select others - tried to get Elvis off the drugs, many times; but to no avail. Elvis did not listen.

Eventually, Parker's frustration was such that - because of Elvis' neglect having an affect on Elvis the product - he finally blew his cool and told the MM etc that Elvis had to get up on stage "no matter what".

And fair enough too.

You can only do so much to help an addict.

Parker did as much as he could, but it was up to Elvis to respond.

Elvis killed Elvis.

No one else.


Exactly. Whether one chooses to believe it nor is up to them but the people around Elvis did try many times to help him without success because when they confronted Elvis about the drugs, they were either severely chastised or simply fired (Red, Sonny & Dave - and please let's not turn this into another "West bashing thread"! (n)(n)) One also has to remember that there were no 'formal' drug rehab centers at that time and you couldn't just do an 'intervention' and put him in there to detox him.

An addict has to be willing to help himself to get free of the things he or she is addicted to. Yes, Elvis had certain necessary meds that were prescribed for him but some of the things he took from '70 and until '77, he had absolutely no business whatsoever taking but - he chose to take them because of the feeling or 'buzz' they gave him.

waymore44
11-28-2008, 06:51 AM
Addiciton is actually a disease that you're born with. Then, when that person with that disease takes a drug or alcohol that is their special demon, it's a match made in hell, then it's off to the races.

For instance, most people take Hydrocodone and they get a buzz but it's not the end all be all and then they just have to be high on hydrocodone foverever. A guy like me, took it once and liked it A LOT. I started taking more and more thinking it was no big deal, then I would invent reasons to get the pills eventually getting a Dr. to prescribe them constantly, then over the internet, then buying them on the street. This process didn't happen overnight, but over several years. Elvis had this same kind of disease with another DANGEROUS combo, LOTS OF $$. My addiciton could only go so far because of the $$. If I had Elvis's money there's no telling if I'd be alive right now or not.

My Mom is an addict to prescription drugs and did it for years without us even knowing, and everyone in her family is an alcoholic. My Dad never wanted to take a tylenol and hardly ever even drank a beer. Nothing against it, just didn't like it.

I'm the opposite, LOVE everything I get my hands on. That's why my recovery continues and won't ever end. Elvis never saw the light on this mainly because of his position in life and not having to be accountable to anyone and being so rich that he could buy anything and everyone he wanted.

renapap05
11-28-2008, 06:56 AM
Well...Ofcourse Elvis killed himself by taking drugs and everything,but i believe that the Col. just didn't care about Elvis' health and did nothing at all.It's a very sad and bad thing though,because Elvis was addicted to to the drugs he took and wasn't able to do do anything-as long as he was sick and the Col. just wanted and cared only for the money he would make by Elvis' talent and charisma.In conclusion,i think the Col. didn't kill the King.The King was killed by himself.:king:

Vegas King
11-28-2008, 07:02 AM
It was putted a lot of pressure on Elvis.
I'm talking about late concert's.The concert's were becoming harder and harder,and Elvis was becoming fatter and fatter,he couldn't do so many concert.Parker was a sick man.He was addict to gambling.I've heard that He lost one and half million dollars in single night.
So he desperately needed some money and Elvis would lie sick in his hotel room but Parker didn't care.He Said:...˝The only thing that's important,is that Elvis is on stage tonight...˝ Elvis become so sick and eventually he died.

I'm not saying that he force him to drugs but Parker was torchering Elvis Presley.

renapap05
11-28-2008, 07:16 AM
It was putted a lot of pressure on Elvis.
I'm talking about late concert's.The concert's were becoming harder and harder,and Elvis was becoming fatter and fatter,he couldn't do so many concert.Parker was a sick man.He was addict to gambling.I've heard that He lost one and half million dollars in single night.
So he desperately needed some money and Elvis would lie sick in his hotel room but Parker didn't care.He Said:...˝The only thing that's important,is that Elvis is on stage tonight...˝ Elvis become so sick and eventually he died.

I'm not saying that he force him to drugs but Parker was torchering Elvis Presley.

I understand...Ofcourse the Col. forced Elvis so much...:'( He sure was sick with money.Elvis made many "after-midnight"shows and he was really tired...I just believe that Elvis killed himself,but the Col. made his death more quick,for example,if the Col. wasn't so a sick person,maybe Elvis would have died in 1978...for example!

Vegas King
11-28-2008, 07:25 AM
I understand...Ofcourse the Col. forced Elvis so much...:'( He sure was sick with money.Elvis made many "after-midnight"shows and he was really tired...I just believe that Elvis killed himself,but the Col. made his death more quick,for example,if the Col. wasn't so a sick person,maybe Elvis would have died in 1978...for example!
I got you rena.
I think That If Parker was a smart man which he wasn't...(n)
He would stopped the tour's and send Elvis to long vocations:angry::angry::angry:
Elvis could stop his career as performer in 1977.He had enough money for ˝living˝.
At least He wouldn't die so young:'(

renapap05
11-28-2008, 07:46 AM
I got you rena.
I think That If Parker was a smart man which he wasn't...(n)
He would stopped the tour's and send Elvis to long vocations:angry::angry::angry:
Elvis could stop his career as performer in 1977.He had enough money for ˝living˝.
At least He wouldn't die so young:'(

:):)He he,i guess you got me:blush::lol:
Ofcourse he Could stop organising tours for Elvis but he was so sick that he didn't:angry::angry::angry:
I wish Elvis didn't die so young...It's a shame...:'(

Diane
11-28-2008, 08:36 AM
Being an addict is in your chemical make-up from birth as Waymore said and I think Elvis' whole life circumstances led him to his path of taking drugs. I think the Colonel and the other people surrounding him just added to his frustrations.

Diane

kathy parkinson
11-28-2008, 10:11 AM
We are responsible for our own actions, including Elvis, Sadly he died, nobody to blame but himself.

ForeverTheKing
11-28-2008, 10:24 AM
We are responsible for our own actions, including Elvis, Sadly he died, nobody to blame but himself.

I totally agree (y)

Parker thoughts only to himself...this is the thing I don't like but Elvis should have decided more about his life and career (y)

Vegas King
11-28-2008, 10:41 AM
Thanks all for replying.
I really like hearing your opinions everyone.

utmom2008
11-28-2008, 11:19 AM
Addiciton is actually a disease that you're born with. Then, when that person with that disease takes a drug or alcohol that is their special demon, it's a match made in hell, then it's off to the races.

For instance, most people take Hydrocodone and they get a buzz but it's not the end all be all and then they just have to be high on hydrocodone foverever. A guy like me, took it once and liked it A LOT. I started taking more and more thinking it was no big deal, then I would invent reasons to get the pills eventually getting a Dr. to prescribe them constantly, then over the internet, then buying them on the street. This process didn't happen overnight, but over several years. Elvis had this same kind of disease with another DANGEROUS combo, LOTS OF $$. My addiciton could only go so far because of the $$. If I had Elvis's money there's no telling if I'd be alive right now or not.

My Mom is an addict to prescription drugs and did it for years without us even knowing, and everyone in her family is an alcoholic. My Dad never wanted to take a tylenol and hardly ever even drank a beer. Nothing against it, just didn't like it.

I'm the opposite, LOVE everything I get my hands on. That's why my recovery continues and won't ever end. Elvis never saw the light on this mainly because of his position in life and not having to be accountable to anyone and being so rich that he could buy anything and everyone he wanted.

Great post Waymore!(y) I really appreciate your honesty!:notworthy

Unchained Melody
11-28-2008, 11:34 AM
Parker loved Elvis, despite what the The Colonel's critics would have you believe.

He - along with select others - tried to get Elvis off the drugs, many times; but to no avail. Elvis did not listen.

Eventually, Parker's frustration was such that - because of Elvis' neglect having an affect on Elvis the product - he finally blew his cool and told the MM etc that Elvis had to get up on stage "no matter what".

And fair enough too.

You can only do so much to help an addict.

Parker did as much as he could, but it was up to Elvis to respond.

Elvis killed Elvis.

No one else.

Well said Getlo correctly right imo !
You can only do so much for someone who is an addicit..and eventually theres nothing you can do for them til they realize they have a problem and are willing to fix it..in Elvis' case, he never was ready for that...

easyrider
11-28-2008, 01:44 PM
Absolutely YES!!!!!!!

KPM
11-28-2008, 02:09 PM
NO Parker did not kill Elvis-but he did help kill the creativity in him.
Parker may have had strong feelings for Elvis-but I truely believe the strongest emotion Parker felt was that for profit. IMO

easyrider
11-28-2008, 02:40 PM
I'm agree with you!

Unchained Melody
11-28-2008, 03:04 PM
NO Parker did not kill Elvis-but he did help kill the creativity in him.
Parker may have had strong feelings for Elvis-but I truely believe the strongest emotion Parker felt was that for profit. IMO

Agree completely Ken...imo the creative downfall for Elvis let to his early demise aswell..

rickb
11-28-2008, 04:48 PM
We cannot blame the Colonel for killing Elvis. As previous posters have said Elvis needed to be responsible for his own actions, including diet exercise and medical intake.
However, addicition and the impact of drugs can be seen by those close to you and I have no doubt the ol' Colonel failed in his duty as Elvis' mentor and manager to help him clean up his act.
He also effectivley killed many of Elvis' ambitions

SleepyJack
11-28-2008, 05:42 PM
Okay...it would be a bit crazy to accuse Parker of actually killing Elvis...and I am certainly no fan of Colonel Tom, he may have ruined and destroyed many other things in Elvis` life from a career point of view but not the man himself.

Vegas King
11-29-2008, 05:36 AM
Okay...it would be a bit crazy to accuse Parker of actually killing Elvis...and I am certainly no fan of Colonel Tom, he may have ruined and destroyed many other things in Elvis` life from a career point of view but not the man himself.Well Said my friend:notworthy

MissyM
11-29-2008, 06:54 AM
Elvis could have done something about all of it at any given time. He gradually put himself in a position of becoming weaker and weaker to many negative forces around him, and with in him. In the end he felt powerless to weak to do so. Not the love for his daughter, God, or himself was strong enough motivation to change his life. It looked to him like a mountain he could not climb. \
We as fans can say.Yes, He could have, and someone always can, but apparently he didn't want to. It was his choice to muster up the strength and believe that he could do it. He didn't. Maybe he hoped he could later. Later never happened.

presley31
11-29-2008, 08:14 AM
Okay...it would be a bit crazy to accuse Parker of actually killing Elvis...and I am certainly no fan of Colonel Tom, he may have ruined and destroyed many other things in Elvis` life from a career point of view but not the man himself.

you got that right jack..Elvis should of took more control in his lifestyle instead of pretending there wasn't anything wrong or maybe he knew and didn't want to deal with it.

Dudcowboy_1
11-29-2008, 08:43 PM
I don't think Elvis wanted a buzz...but it was more of "He thought he need them to get by for that day."

When his body would get use them he would have to take more get that feeling that he was ok.

Love to all,
Tim

kathy parkinson
11-30-2008, 06:56 AM
Peace on Earth, goodwill to all men? Yeah! right.

KPM
11-30-2008, 11:31 AM
Elvis could have done something about all of it at any given time. He gradually put himself in a position of becoming weaker and weaker to many negative forces around him, and with in him. In the end he felt powerless to weak to do so. Not the love for his daughter, God, or himself was strong enough motivation to change his life. It looked to him like a mountain he could not climb. \
We as fans can say.Yes, He could have, and someone always can, but apparently he didn't want to. It was his choice to muster up the strength and believe that he could do it. He didn't. Maybe he hoped he could later. Later never happened.
I think its much easier to say "He could have done something about it all"
than to actually be that particular person in those particular circumstances, in the midst of a whirlwind life-which Elvis (and Elvis alone) knew the weight of. I just can not make a blanket statement on anyones life and have a clue to what it was really like to be that person and to feel the way that person felt. I'll agree you can make blanket statements about how you might react, or what you would have done or what you think he should have done. But unless we are all clones-you can not know what each person can or can not do mentally and physically.

utmom2008
11-30-2008, 11:47 AM
sei troppo nervoso ...questo non e buono per la salute amico mio e non capice niente di quello que io volevo dire.

:lol:Will someone please translate?:supriced::lol:

4THEHEART
11-30-2008, 11:48 AM
Parker loved Elvis, despite what the The Colonel's critics would have you believe.

He - along with select others - tried to get Elvis off the drugs, many times; but to no avail. Elvis did not listen.

Eventually, Parker's frustration was such that - because of Elvis' neglect having an affect on Elvis the product - he finally blew his cool and told the MM etc that Elvis had to get up on stage "no matter what".

And fair enough too.

You can only do so much to help an addict.

Parker did as much as he could, but it was up to Elvis to respond.

Elvis killed Elvis.

No one else.


wish you could have such mercy for Elvis as much as you had for poor Colonel..Parker loved what he got from Elvis,nothing more,he even didn't care about his music, let alone Elvis the person..and yes he didn't use his hands to kill him..no one did actually.

Miss Clawdy
11-30-2008, 01:04 PM
..sei troppo nervoso ...questo non e buono per la salute amico mio e non capice niente di quello que io volevo dire..


:lol:Will someone please translate?:supriced::lol:

I assume there will be no secret broken....so I am going to try :lol:

'You are too nervous...that's not good for your health my friend and you don't understand what I was trying to say at all...' ;)

Will someone please verify? :lol:

franny
11-30-2008, 01:09 PM
I think Parker cared about Elvis, but he cared about the money more...Didn't Larry Geller or one of the MM say that Elvis was in bad shape and couldn't go on stage and Parker said that no matter what Elvis had to go on stage...

I know I'm not wording it exactly as it was...sorry I'm tired :lol:
If anyone has the exact wording, please post it...

franny

Jungleroom76
11-30-2008, 01:12 PM
Although my first inclination was to vote YES on this question, my better judgement took over and I wound up voting NOT SURE. :hmm:

While it is hard to argue that The Colonel caused Elvis' death because only Elvis could make the ultimate decision whether to take the medications or not, I certainly am of the belief that some of the decisions that The Colonel made throughout Elvis' career, but especially during the 70's, led Elvis to become very bored with the monotonous routine that enveloped his life and career, thus allowing Elvis to seek avenues of relief from the boredom. :hmm:

So did The Colonel pull the trigger, so to speak? Obviously not. But did The Colonel put Elvis into a situation which caused Elvis himself to pull the trigger? Most likely!! :angry:

TCB!
Mike

Jungleroom76
11-30-2008, 01:15 PM
...but he cared about the money more...

EXACTLY RIGHT FRANNY!!! (y)

THAT IS WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT FOR THE COLONEL!!! TO THE COLONEL, ELVIS WAS JUST ONE GREAT BIG...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :'(

TCB!
Mike

epmoodyblue
11-30-2008, 01:34 PM
I assume there will be no secret broken....so I am going to try :lol:

'You are too nervous...that's not good for your health my friend and you don't understand what I was trying to say at all...' ;)

Will someone please verify? :lol:perfect translation(y)

Miss Clawdy
11-30-2008, 01:53 PM
perfect translation(y)

thank you :D!

epmoodyblue
11-30-2008, 01:57 PM
thank you :D!ur very welcome:notworthy..where did you learn your italian....molto bene bella signora..ciao e buon natale to you(y):king::newyear::cold: e felice anno nuovo(y)

Diane
11-30-2008, 01:59 PM
I agree with Franny and Mike. No the Colonel didn't pull the trigger but he sure put the gun in his hand.

Diane

Tony Trout
11-30-2008, 02:04 PM
I don't think Elvis wanted a buzz...but it was more of "He thought he need them to get by for that day."

When his body would get use them he would have to take more get that feeling that he was ok.

Love to all,
Tim


Sorry but....I'll have to disagree. I think it was actually a combination of 'I need it to get by for the day and I also like the 'buzz' it gives me".

*slinks out of thread*

utmom2008
11-30-2008, 02:10 PM
Sorry but....I'll have to disagree. I think it was actually a combination of 'I need it to get by for the day and I also like the 'buzz' it gives me".

*slinks out of thread*

Don't slink away SP, actually I agree with you!:D(y)

shelley.m.
11-30-2008, 02:38 PM
Col.Parker only saw Elvis as a "cash-cow" and milked him for all he was worth.Did he "kill Elvis?" I say NO!

Vegas King
11-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Thanks All for voting

Unchained Melody
11-30-2008, 08:04 PM
We as fans can say.Yes, He could have, and someone always can, but apparently he didn't want to. It was his choice to muster up the strength and believe that he could do it. He didn't. Maybe he hoped he could later. Later never happened.

Right on Missy..agree with everyword..sad to read, but its all true...he could've...he just didn't want to, or didn't think he was strong enough to overcome this mountain...

presley31
11-30-2008, 08:05 PM
col parker was a greedy ole man who had nothing buthttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/MSN_Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-040.gifwhen it come to elvis and never showed his respects at allhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/MSN_Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-cigar-018.gif

Unchained Melody
11-30-2008, 08:06 PM
wish you could have such mercy for Elvis as much as you had for poor Colonel..Parker loved what he got from Elvis,nothing more,he even didn't care about his music, let alone Elvis the person..and yes he didn't use his hands to kill him..no one did actually.

Elvis was loyal to Parker til the end, and Parker was loyal to Elvis til the end. You are right about one thing, Parker didn't care about the music, that was Elvis' part to do..and Elvis liked that and didn't want Colonel To get involve in the music he made...and Parker did love what he got from Elvis, but I believe firmly that he thought of Elvis as a son almost, they loved each other...otherwise they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did as partners in the show buiz.

SleepyJack
12-01-2008, 05:52 AM
It`s kind of interesting how there is always so much talk and analysis of the things that Elvis did or didn`t do in his life and the reasons for it....nowhere near as much gets said about the Colone`s motives and what actually was going on in his head during the whole thing...How much do we actually know about him?.... I`ve always felt that he was completely out of his depth when the industry changed,especially in the `60s and music seemed to become more of a social artform.... I think the old "Carny" ways of doing things became seriously obsolete fairly early in Elvis` career......was Parker as guilty as anyone of not being able to see what was going on?:hmm::hmm:

Diane
12-01-2008, 09:06 AM
I seriously doubt if the old Colonel would ever admit to having obsolete ideas or being wrong in any way. The man's ego was huge!

Diane

MissyM
12-01-2008, 09:10 AM
I also feel that as a manager/agent in some respects the Col. did his job well. The whole premise of a manager/talent relationship is to use each other. One hand washes the other. Also The Col. kept Elvis's reputation under tact quite a bit. (knowing it could be the down fall for both of them) Was he overboard at times, yes. Did he overwork Elvis with bad deals, yes at times. But Elvis did like to work, it's just that some contracts got to be too much for Elvis. Hard to get out of them and it's very bad P.R., and those who did, quickly found themselves hard pressed to get more. Should he have let Elvis experiment with more diverse projects, yes.
The more money to be made, the harder the decisions get. (all of them)
I do feel that The Col. was too greedy at times. But managing Elvis I am quite sure was no easy task either, at times.
But Elvis could have fired him. Elvis was just the type to be beholden to people who helped him in his career and personal life.
It may have seemed unfair and dysfunctional in many ways, but apparently each got what they wanted out of it.
And let's not forget Vernon, he could have been a better advocate for his son, but he liked the money rolling in too.

SleepyJack
12-01-2008, 09:51 AM
I guess after all this time it doesn`t make much difference seeing as we can`t change the past....It would be facinating to get a look into the alternate reality of what would have happened if Elvis had parted ways with the colonel....we could be looking back on a whole different career today.....enough possibilities there to keep me daydreaming for hours!

MissyM
12-01-2008, 10:22 AM
That's for sure Jack.

Diane
12-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Amen to that for me too Jack. I so wish he would have had the chance.

Diane

KPM
12-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Don't slink away SP, actually I agree with you!:D(y)
I also agree somewhat.
Part of feeling better with depressions or physical problems(they both go hand in hand) is to raise your state of mind-to feel well & happy. A big part of todays medicine is to induce a mindset for healing of mind and body.
Thats what some medications are for to improve your state of mind and well being. The biggest market for new medications in the last 40 years are mood elevators and anti depressants. So yes anyone who takes medications wants to feel physically and mentally better. The problem for everyone who uses them is its hard to say-today I live on my own without help. These medications are easily dependant on. No one wants to feel bad, no one wants to hurt-no one wants depression.
I'll agree its debateable how severe any physical or mental problems Elvis had were-but you can not know how severe they were to him in his own mind. I know exactly how my body and mind react to health problems of any kind-I worry, I do not sleep, I do not eat as well and I suffer.
But how Elvis(or anyone else) deals with like problems is a guess based on my own life-I have no idea how they deal mentally with theirs.
I just think (and have always thought) a little compassion for someone who did have some problems and did not handle them as well as some of us would have liked is in order at times.

Unchained Melody
12-01-2008, 12:07 PM
But Elvis could have fired him. Elvis was just the type to be beholden to people who helped him in his career and personal life

This is so true, but I think this is one of the worst things that flawed Elvis, I really think he thought if he got rid of Parker, then his fame would fade away or something..he could've done dang fine without Parker, found someone else...it could be done..but Elvis just had that loyalty to Parker, as Parker brought him everything he ever wanted and always came through on the promises he made Elvis...I think Parker gets the blame way to much yes...but some he deserves.

Jumpsuit Junkie
12-01-2008, 01:19 PM
No the Col didn't kill Elvis, but he was almost certainly a contributing factor in a circle of friends who each can take a small amount of blame along with Elvis himself!

Elvis was the artist and the Col was the manager, some will say that never the twain should meet. To a degree that is right. Should the Colonel have stepped into Elvis' life and took control? Personally I don't think so, Elvis was his own man, he made his own decisions. The colonel was in charge of making the business deals not personal counselling. The Colonel might have been a money grabber but Elvis aloud this situation to permeate throughout their relationship.

It's a sad fact that, 'the devil will find work for idol hands', unfortunately for Elvis he was weak when it came to the meds!

The sad truth is that without Elvis' faults, character idiosyncrasies he wouldn't have been the person we all love and cherish :blush:

Jungleroom76
12-01-2008, 01:50 PM
The sad truth is that without Elvis' faults, character idiosyncrasies he wouldn't have been the person we all love and cherish :blush:

VERY TRUE J.J.!!! :'(

TCB!
Mike

KPM
12-01-2008, 02:01 PM
No the Col didn't kill Elvis, but he was almost certainly a contributing factor in a circle of friends who each can take a small amount of blame along with Elvis himself!

Elvis was the artist and the Col was the manager, some will say that never the twain should meet. To a degree that is right. Should the Colonel have stepped into Elvis' life and took control? Personally I don't think so, Elvis was his own man, he made his own decisions. The colonel was in charge of making the business deals not personal counselling. The Colonel might have been a money grabber but Elvis aloud this situation to permeate throughout their relationship.

It's a sad fact that, 'the devil will find work for idol hands', unfortunately for Elvis he was weak when it came to the meds!

The sad truth is that without Elvis' faults, character idiosyncrasies he wouldn't have been the person we all love and cherish :blush:
So very true! Its the constant diverse nature of who he was which makes him so fascinating and so loved.

ehollier
12-01-2008, 02:09 PM
So very true! Its the constant diverse nature of who he was which makes him so fascinating and so loved.

Very true, Ken. If Elvis was like everyone else, then he would have been long forgotten by now. His charm, his charisma, his bizarre life, his tremendous talent are no doubt just a few of the things that we all find absolutely irresistible.

Silenz
12-01-2008, 04:38 PM
Well i have read the book If i can dream - Larry Geller and in that book he dont seems to care about Elvis at all. Just money! It seems that he pushed on Elvis to make concerts when he really needed medical help sometimes. I dont like him at all