What ideas do you have for introducing Elvis to the next generation?

[Elvislives72]

We all know that the future of Elvis and his longevity lies in the hands of the next generation of fans. So what are your ideas that you think Sillerman and EPE should focus on to keep them interested in Elvis? And please don't say releasing Elvis In Concert on dvd as one of them. That would be detrimental to his legacy.

Here's a few of my own ideas that I would like to see them do.

1. EPE should find a way to merge with Viacom and develop the world's first ever cable tv's Elvis television network which would focus on his entire career, from movies, documentaries and concert performances to special presentations from Graceland. The network should be ran and operated on the Graceland grounds just as the Sirius radio channel is. This would be a groundbreaking accomplishment for EPE and Elvis and open many doors to a new generation to discover Elvis without ever buying an Elvis cd or visiting Graceland. It could be done in the form of the current VH1 and MTV musical channels such as VH1 Classics. It could be called Elvis-One or simple name like EPTV as in Elvis Presley TV. There would be enough material to run a full 24/7 programming such as Elvis & Me, Elvis & The Beauty Queen, This Is Elvis, The Early years-ABC short lived series from the early 90's, The Echo Will Never Die, and so on.

2. EPE should look into buying their own riverboat like the General Jackson showboat in Nashville and have weekend tours on the Mississippi river to and from St Louis and New Orleans for a 2-day getaway with an Elvis theme. They could call it the Proud Mary Cruise or something. Book the top ETA Shawn Klush to do live performances on the boat, have former friends of Elvis' such as the band mates to make appearances as special guests. This could also be done especially during Elvis Week as one of the special events. This would be a win-win attraction for all fans young and old. It would also be a romantic getaway with an Elvis twist to it as lovers could enjoy the journey down the Mississippi at night under the stars.(y)

3. An Elvis Music Festival featuring top artists in the music industry to showcase the sounds of Country, Blues, Soul, and Pop/Rock. Make it a 3-day festival with national media coverage and have it in June. Put it on CMT and VH1, maybe MTV as a marathon. Have an Art exhibit and fun things for the kids as well. The festival could be held annually in downtown Memphis on the riverfront.


Anyone have their own ideas to add?


Just to give you an example of the type of boat I was referring to, here's a pic of the General Jackson.

http://www.siscom.net/~mmeece/20072a.jpg

[Vegas King]

Yes there is.(y)
There Needs to be more Elvis on the radio stations And Television so kids could hear him.
Everybody know Two or three songs from Elvis.
We Have to face that:THEY DON'T KNOW WHO ELVIS PRESLEY REALLY IS!!!.The list of elvis fans is shrinking and we have to react.:'(

[Elvisverity]

There's hardly a child alive who doesn't know who Elvis Presley was.

Tourism ensures Elvis is seen by even those from countries where he wasn't popular.

Our shops are filled with Elvis artifacts. National newspapers give away Elvis CDs and DVDs, the computer age has Elvis songs on youtube. Elvis radio shows reach across the world.

Memphis makes the TV news every August.

Magazine covers feature Elvis and Elvis books line bookstore shelves.

Elvis calenders are already in our stores.


More young children hear Elvis than they ever did. "Hound Dog" opened the latest Indiana Blockbuster movies in Cinemas across the globe.

Elvis is virtually self perpetuating. :D

[EnigmaticSun]

There are plenty of Elvis fans who don't even know who he really was if they can't look past the superficial image and miss the human being.

I don't think the answer is to be found purely in a commercial context. As far as that's concerned any change seems to be an improvement anyway.

Elvis' music in a motion picture by Disney or "A Little Less Conservation" did rather well without having to suffer from a lack of promotion and publicity, but did these things prove to be a long-term solution?

Elvis' music will pass the test of time, though his audience might grow smaller but more concentrated and loyal. If this is meant to be, so it will be.

If there were artists with an obvious link to that good old-timey music it could pull out a memory or two, but it's hard to achieve anything in a scene dominated by superficial short-lived success and materialist pigs.

[KPM]

I might like to see an all Elvis channel-but theres just not enough material. IMO

I do not think if you added all the movies, specials, TV performances together it would add to enough material to run a full time cable tv channel.
His 33 movies only add up to about 49 hours of broadcast time-at an average length of 90 minutes. Add in lets say all the outtakes from TTWII and EOT(if they were cleaned up and digitally remastered) we have around another, lets be generous, 40 hours depending on where you totals on outakes from these films-and some of that is non-musical filmed moments.
So thats 89 hours-less than 4 days running time-then the specials lets say all told another 20 hours- then all the other Ed Sullivan Hayride, Sinatra show etc....another 20 hours if you play the total shows not just Elvis moments. Then all the documentaries and the mini series and the different Elvis bios-I think you would have around 2 weeks full of no repeat 24 hour broadcasting. the trouble with the things like "The Echo will never Die" is that other than interviews with celebrities or insiders all the material is pretty much from all the above footage.
So in order to not run the existing footage into the ground in 2 week cycles they would have to produce shows pretty heavily to fill time. They would have to pay royalties on all the movies to the companies who own them, work out deals with whoever owns all the Hayride, Sullivan footage etc.
You are talking a huge expensive undertaking.
Given that we are going on 4 full years since Sillerman bought into EPE and that little of what he spoke of in 2004 has happened and that
Sillerman just had a set back with the collapse of his sale from CKX to FX (this guys like an alphabet soup) I can not see him going into another great expense when his original ideas are in limbo.

[Diane]

An all Elvis channel.....it's known around our house that my husband "owns" the TV and I "own" the computer. There would be a big switch in a hurry:D!!!
Too bad there isn't enough material to take this seriously.:'(

Diane

[Elvislives72]

I might like to see an all Elvis channel-but theres just not enough material. IMO

I do not think if you added all the movies, specials, TV performances together it would add to enough material to run a full time cable tv channel.
His 33 movies only add up to about 49 hours of broadcast time-at an average length of 90 minutes. Add in lets say all the outtakes from TTWII and EOT(if they were cleaned up and digitally remastered) we have around another, lets be generous, 40 hours depending on where you totals on outakes from these films-and some of that is non-musical filmed moments.
So thats 89 hours-less than 4 days running time-then the specials lets say all told another 20 hours- then all the other Ed Sullivan Hayride, Sinatra show etc....another 20 hours if you play the total shows not just Elvis moments. Then all the documentaries and the mini series and the different Elvis bios-I think you would have around 2 weeks full of no repeat 24 hour broadcasting. the trouble with the things like "The Echo will never Die" is that other than interviews with celebrities or insiders all the material is pretty much from all the above footage.
So in order to not run the existing footage into the ground in 2 week cycles they would have to produce shows pretty heavily to fill time. They would have to pay royalties on all the movies to the companies who own them, work out deals with whoever owns all the Hayride, Sullivan footage etc.
You are talking a huge expensive undertaking.
Given that we are going on 4 full years since Sillerman bought into EPE and that little of what he spoke of in 2004 has happened and that
Sillerman just had a set back with the collapse of his sale from CKX to FX (this guys like an alphabet soup) I can not see him going into another great expense when his original ideas are in limbo.

I disagree. A rapper is about to launch his own tv station. Now if some rapper can afford it so can an actual billionaire.:hmm:

As for the lack of material, it wouldn't be continuous Elvis movies or shows. There would be new productions for half hour to an hour of special presentations for half hour airings. And not necessarily a full all day 24 hour network. Most small stations go off the air around midnight to 1 AM and don't come back on until 7 or 8 AM. That's at least 18 hours of programming available. Here's an example of how it could work out in a 24 hour window.

8 am-10 am
Speedway

10 am-12 pm
That's The Way It Is

2 pm-2:30 pm
Memories Of Elvis (new production of interviews with his closest associates)

2:30-4 pm
Aloha From Hawaii

4 pm-6 pm
Elvis Viva Las Vegas ABC Special

6 pm-7 pm
The Ed Sullivan Years

7 pm-9 pm
Elvis BY The Presley's

9 pm-9:30 pm
Memories Of Elvis

9:30 pm-10:30 pm
He Touched Me

10:30 pm-12:30 am
Easy Come Easy Go

12:30 am-1:00 am
Memories Of Elvis

1 am-8 am
Infomercial programming


As you can see this would work. I listed only 8 out of at least 100 or so different programs available for airing. The next day could be

Btw, Sillerman didn't come into the picture untl 05 and didn't start making plans until 06. CKX's fall through with trying to go private isn't Sillerman's fault. That all can be blamed on the economy. But he's also said to be working on an alternative plan to take it private. EPE and Ali won't be at risk or effected I can assure you. It's more to do with building onto CKX.

[KPM]

I disagree. A rapper is about to launch his own tv station. Now if some rapper can afford it so can an actual billionaire.:hmm:

As for the lack of material, it wouldn't be continuous Elvis movies or shows. There would be new productions for half hour to an hour of special presentations for half hour airings. And not necessarily a full all day 24 hour network. Most small stations go off the air around midnight to 1 AM and don't come back on until 7 or 8 AM. That's at least 18 hours of programming available. Here's an example of how it could work out in a 24 hour window.

8 am-10 am
Speedway

10 am-12 pm
That's The Way It Is

2 pm-2:30 pm
Memories Of Elvis (new production of interviews with his closest associates)

2:30-4 pm
Aloha From Hawaii

4 pm-6 pm
Elvis Viva Las Vegas ABC Special

6 pm-7 pm
The Ed Sullivan Years

7 pm-9 pm
Elvis BY The Presley's

9 pm-9:30 pm
Memories Of Elvis

9:30 pm-10:30 pm
He Touched Me

10:30 pm-12:30 am
Easy Come Easy Go

12:30 am-1:00 am
Memories Of Elvis

1 am-8 am
Infomercial programming


As you can see this would work. I listed only 8 out of at least 100 or so different programs available for airing. The next day could be
As I have said I just do not see enough material.
I also said that if the billionaire has had trouble making good on his original ideas in the last 4 years-he is not going to undertake something which would require a lot of capital. You have to walk before you can run-so far the plans from 4 years ago-are crawling. I will say this for certain- one thing this country does not need is another station which runs for a third of the day with infomercials.;)

[KPM]

I think the riverboat idea would be good for existing fans and people in their 30s. The teenagers and the 20 somethings would not get into a riverboat excursion ( I just asked my 22 year old daughter about it thunbs down)
The festival idea might be a good one-if done properly.

[Elvislives72]

Just off the top of my head, here's a list of all the potential documentaries, specials and movies that could be used for a tv network of All Elvis.

Motion Pictures
Love Me Tender
Loving You
Jailhouse Rock
Jailhouse Rock (colorized version)
King Creole
GI Blues
Flaming Star
Wild In The Country
Blue Hawaii
Follow That Dream
Kid Galahad
Girls Girls Girls
It Happened At The World's Fair
Fun In Acapulco
Roustabout
Viva Las Vegas
Kissin Cousins
Tickle Me
Girl Happy
Harum scarum
Spinout
Frankie And Johnnie
Easy Come Easy Go
Paradise Hawaiian Style
Double Trouble
Clambake
Stay Away Joe
Speedway
Live A Little, Love A Little
Charro
The Trouble With Girls
Change Of Habit
That's The Way It Is
That's The`Way It Is Special Edition
Elvis On Tour


Documentaries & Specials
Elvis 56
The Early Years
The Ed Sullivan years
Welcome Home Elvis-Frank Sinatra special
From The Waist Up
68 Comeback
68 Comeback deluxe addition
Aloha Dress Rehearsal
Aloha From Hawaii
Elvis In Concert
This Is Elvis
Elvis (1979 ABC mini series played by Kurt Russell)
Elvis & The Beauty Queen
Elvis & Me
The Echo Will Never Die
The Great Performances Vol 1 & 2
Elvis Lives (2002 NBC Thanksgiving special)
Elvis Viva Las Vegas (2007 ABC Special)
Elvis Presley's Memphis (Travel channel special)
Elvis' Graceland (travel channel special)
Elvis Presley's Graceland hosted by Priscilla Presley
The Lost Performances
Elvis Lives (25th Anniversary concert from Memphis)
Elvis By The Presley's
Elvis CBS mini series

[Elvislives72]

I think the riverboat idea would be good for existing fans and people in their 30s. The teenagers and the 20 somethings would not get into a riverboat excursion ( I just asked my 22 year old daughter about it thunbs down)
The festival idea might be a good one-if done properly.
Just because your daughter doesn't like things like that does not mean she speaks for the entire teenage to 20 something age group. She's not even 1%.

As you can see with my new full list of movie and documentaire over the years there is definitely enough material available for at least a 18 hour a day programming. EPE could make a huge profit off of infomercials and paid advertising spots. That would help to fill in the 24 hour window.

Once again, had the economy no taken such huge downfall Sillerman wouldn't e in the situation with having to cancel the hotel resort in Vegas and probably would have already began developing at Graceland. You cannot hold all this against him as some type of failure or not living up to his expectations.

[KPM]

Just because your daughter doesn't like things like that does not mean she speaks for the entire teenage to 20 something age group. She's not even 1%.

As you can see with my new full list of movie and documentaire over the years there is definitely enough material available for at least a 18 hour a day programming. EPE could make a huge profit off of infomercials and paid advertising spots. That would help to fill in the 24 hour window.

Once again, had the economy no taken such huge downfall Sillerman wouldn't e in the situation with having to cancel the hotel resort in Vegas and probably would have already began developing at Graceland. You cannot hold all this against him as some type of failure or not living up to his expectations.
Given the size of the teen to 20 demographic group-I am sure she is not near 1% and made no claim otherwise.
As far as material it is your opinion there is enough material-that is subjective on your part and very dependent on the idea that Sillerman would produce new programs on a regular basis.
You once again seem to have missed my post-the economy melted in the last 12 months. So since 2004 there have been 3 years of growth-up to the meltdown. The only real winner so far is Lisa with $100 million for the 85%.
Sillerman is now in limbo-he could not deliver what he himself wanted to happen-in the 3 years prior to the meltdown. This meltdown is, unfortunately, not over. Much of Sillermans wealth is Wall Street based-in other words on paper. So until Wall Street and the country recover (the last minor recession took nearly 2 years) I doubt he will be making any new plans of consequence. I think he will try to regroup and scale back.
I do not blame him for anything-it was his time schedule for his expansion plans -not mine. I can only go by what he announced at the time. I can only go by what many were saying at time-significant building just months away-perhaps all done in 18 months-24 tops.
The EPE deal is his not mine, I had no dog in his fight.

[KPM]

But the original question was how to attract new fans.
I would love to see an explosion of new younger Elvis fans, I would love to see him top of the album charts once a year, I would love to see a couple new Elvis specials a year -but its very hard and expensive to market a deceased non-producing artist of any kind. I think a remix every 3-4 years helps-if they are well done.

[utmom2008]

I can only go by what many were saying at time-significant building just months away-perhaps all done in 18 months-24 tops.
The EPE deal is his not mine, I had no dog in his fight.

You are right on the mark Ken. We just got back from Memphis and there appears to be nothing on the horizon. I also found it interesting that the Heartbreak Hotel actually had a few rooms available for Elvis' birthday week.:blink::blush::blink:

[ehollier]

I guess growing up listening to Elvis, remembering his death, being AWARE of his music, I always took ELVIS for granted, as a natural part of my world. Its also very difficult for me to comprehend that there are those who have never heard of his name, his music, his impact. This thread has given me pause to consider what my little world would have been without being fortunate enough to know who and what he accomplished.

His impact throughout the globe is astonishing, however with fans from every continent both young and old. Now as an adult, I try and listen with more awareness of those first singles and what they offer the listener in terms of style, emotion, change. I also listen with an adult ear to his emotional input in music of the 60's and especially the 70's. I believe that the '68 Special sit-down shows are pure proof of the power that he embodied, the talent, the emotion, the intimacy, the charisma - these shows are timeless - they appeal to anyone at any age at the time that they were recorded, they certainly grabbed my attention during my formative years and adult years - they never get old, they never are outdated, they never fail to amaze.

This may not answer the question of how to introduce Elvis the next generation, but it made me wonder how different it would be if he had not been part of mine.

[SeeSeeRider777]

You know what cable and sat companies should have is a Elvis on Demand channel. When you want to watch Elvis, you pick some Elvis movie or special to watch. Theres not enough material for a 24 hr channel.

[elvia7]

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I guess growing up listening to Elvis, remembering his death, being AWARE of his music, I always took ELVIS for granted, as a natural part of my world. Its also very difficult for me to comprehend that there are those who have never heard of his name, his music, his impact. This thread has given me pause to consider what my little world would have been without being fortunate enough to know who and what he accomplished.

His impact throughout the globe is astonishing, however with fans from every continent both young and old. Now as an adult, I try and listen with more awareness of those first singles and what they offer the listener in terms of style, emotion, change. I also listen with an adult ear to his emotional input in music of the 60's and especially the 70's. I believe that the '68 Special sit-down shows are pure proof of the power that he embodied, the talent, the emotion, the intimacy, the charisma - these shows are timeless - they appeal to anyone at any age at the time that they were recorded, they certainly grabbed my attention during my formative years and adult years - they never get old, they never are outdated, they never fail to amaze.

This may not answer the question of how to introduce Elvis the next generation, but it made me wonder how different it would be if he had not been part of mine. '
You right Elizabet - I think you absolutely right!!!!! In Poland now ELVIS day by day
grow - we have there many programs on TV, radio and magazine's - it's amazing!!!!!

[cibetty]

I don't think there will be a 24/7 TV channel only for Elvis. It would be really great, but I really don't think it will ever happen...

The best way to know him better is listening to his songs. I think many people know him only as the "king of rock & roll" and they have simply no idea how many songs he had.

Thanks for the Candaian Radio, which is really non-stop (http://www.freewebs.com/theepexpress/) and the sirius radio channel! They are both wonderful.

Although I don't think there will be a 24/7 TV channel, but I'd really like to see more movies and concerts about him on TV, at least on his anniversary. There were some programs about him on the 30th anniversary here, but in this August there were nothing.

I think these are the best documentaries about him:

- This Is Elvis
- He Touched Me (The Gospel Music Of Elvis Presley) (This was the most touching documentary I have ever seen about him...)
- Elvis By The Presleys
- The Definitive Elvis

And his best shows and concert movies:

- 68 Comeback
- Aloha From Hawaii
- TTWII
- Elvis On Tour

These are really very very expensive on DVDs, many people can't buy them that's why it would be great to see them on TV in every countries! (I know some of his movies can be watched at least on the anniversary on TCM, this movie channel were deleted here, in my country and VH1 sometimes uses to play his videos, but very rarely.) I'm sure if more people would know him better, they would love him and he would have more new fans...

[littlesister3]

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The best way to know him better is listening to his songs. I think many people know him only as the "king of rock & roll" and they have simply no idea how many songs he had.


I agree, before I was a fan I knew he sang Hound Dog and Heartbreak Hotel and some of the other of his more famous records, but what turned me into a fan was listening to some of his other lesser known albums. For many years while I was still discovering lots of his songs it was like Christmas everyday! Even though oldies radio stations play his songs, its usually just his #1 songs. There are hundreds and hundreds of others they can play! I think this would help. There are so many times I've been listening to music with family or friends and a song that Elvis covered comes up and of course I have to jump in and say Elvis did this song too! and many times they are surprised and they want to hear his version. Once I play it for them they love it.

[Elvislives72]

Back in the 90's Jack Soden and the late Todd Morgan announced that there were plans to launch the first ever Elvis tv station with Turner Network. It never happened. Why? because of money issues and sponsors. EPEE didn't have the financial backing to make it become a reality. Same was the case with the ElvisTown theme park in Tokyo, Japan back in the early 90's that fell through.

I'm not saying any of my ideas will come true but if they do it's because of Sillerman's and the financial backing and funding he can supply. But I do think it's on their agenda of things to do.

That being said I doubt we'll see anything major like these possible projects happen anytime soon. Maybe within 5 years but that all depends on how fast the economy bounces back to where investing is a safe thing to do and people start spending money again.

[SleepyJack]

Make sure all his recorded work is readily available.....make sure the movies and documentaries are available in their best condition........and they will come!!!:):):)

[KPM]

Back in the 90's Jack Soden and the late Todd Morgan announced that there were plans to launch the first ever Elvis tv station with Turner Network. It never happened. Why? because of money issues and sponsors. EPEE didn't have the financial backing to make it become a reality. Same was the case with the ElvisTown theme park in Tokyo, Japan back in the early 90's that fell through.

I'm not saying any of my ideas will come true but if they do it's because of Sillerman's and the financial backing and funding he can supply. But I do think it's on their agenda of things to do.

That being said I doubt we'll see anything major like these possible projects happen anytime soon. Maybe within 5 years but that all depends on how fast the economy bounces back to where investing is a safe thing to do and people start spending money again.
Thats another new one to me? VEry curious where you come up with these tid bits? I ran a search on both Elvis Tv station in the 90s and also a Japan theme park and came up with nothing?

[Elvislives72]

Thats another new one to me? VEry curious where you come up with these tid bits? I ran a search on both Elvis Tv station in the 90s and also a Japan theme park and came up with nothing?

Apprantly you in't search too hard.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910811&slug=1299329

[KPM]

Apprantly you in't search too hard.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910811&slug=1299329
You are correct it I did not. I spent about 4 minutes and it did not pop up in the first few pages. If this had been a search for something involved in my work I would have spent much more time on it-and tried many combinations of the key words.
Just goes to show you that a theme park idea-was not considered a smart business move after they got into the details.
Also noticed in the big 4 plans no mention of an Elvis Channel?
Perhaps that was also an idea that after considering- was vetoed as unworkable.

[kathy parkinson]

\all his recorded work is readily available.....make sure the movies and documentaries are available in their best condition........and they will come!!!:):):)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

So true sleepyjack, that's all it needs, HIS work to be available.(y)

[Elvislives72]

You are correct it I did not. I spent about 4 minutes and it did not pop up in the first few pages. If this had been a search for something involved in my work I would have spent much more time on it-and tried many combinations of the key words.
Just goes to show you that a theme park idea-was not considered a smart business move after they got into the details.
Also noticed in the big 4 plans no mention of an Elvis Channel?
Perhaps that was also an idea that after considering- was vetoed as unworkable.

Now that I think about it, the Elvis tv station wasn't supposed to be all Elvis but was actually supposed to be based around 50's and 60's movies and television programming for the south only in selected markets through Ted Turner's enterprise of Turner networks. The deal fell through because EPE didn't have the backing for it and the plan turned into Turner South but with an agreement to show Elvis movies often which they did the first few years on the air. Then it got big around here in the south and was later picked up for Satellite Dish companies.

[rocknroll]

Pare down the cateloge to a handfull of essential releases that encompasses his entire career.

Vehemently and visibly dispute the stereotype of the fat, drugged, racist Elvis.

Stop releasing multiple compilations every year and make new releases a true event.

Don't turn Elvis, Graceland or his legacy into a circus.

Stop the remixes and duet crap. His original music is good enough to attract fans. Extra instruments and voices is always a worse result than the original.

Market Elvis with celebrities that appeal to youth who are true fans.

Basically, treat Elvis as what he was, an innovative, talented performer and generally overall nice guy who helped change society and stop trying so hard to make him what he wasn't.

[Elvislives72]

Pare down the cateloge to a handfull of essential releases that encompasses his entire career.

Vehemently and visibly dispute the stereotype of the fat, drugged, racist Elvis.

Stop releasing multiple compilations every year and make new releases a true event.

Totally agree!(y)


Don't turn Elvis, Graceland or his legacy into a circus.

Too late, they already did that.:'(


Stop the remixes and duet crap. His original music is good enough to attract fans. Extra instruments and voices is always a worse result than the original.
I agree with you on the remixes need to cease, maybe one now and then, but I disagree about the extra instruments factor. They actually give the older songs a fresher sound. The Christmas duets cd sounds fantastic with the way they have rerecorded the backings to sound identical to the style of the originals with some small additions here and there. I was skeptical at first until I heard the final product. Although they messed up leaving the backing vocals intact as it made some of the songs sound like a sing a long.(n)


Market Elvis with celebrities that appeal to youth who are true fans.

Again I agree!(y)

[elvisfan1999]

I agree with Diane and anyone else who thinks that there should be an all Elvis Presley channel so that children can learn about him and his music. I also think that there should be a class taught about Elvis that would be cool.:king:

[KPM]

Now that I think about it, the Elvis tv station wasn't supposed to be all Elvis but was actually supposed to be based around 50's and 60's movies and television programming for the south only in selected markets through Ted Turner's enterprise of Turner networks. The deal fell through because EPE didn't have the backing for it and the plan turned into Turner South but with an agreement to show Elvis movies often which they did the first few years on the air. Then it got big around here in the south and was later picked up for Satellite Dish companies.


Actually my friend Turner needed no deal with EPE to show Elvis movies anytime he wanted, as often as he wanted-since he owned them outright and EPE had no ownership in them at all. He actually did not need them to do anything with the films. He colorized "Jailhouse Rock" and no one could stop him because it was his.
Turner acquired the MGM film library, dating back to pre-merger days, as well as the pre-1948 Warner Bros. catalog, the entire RKO library, and a good share of United Artists's own backlist.
as well as the United Artists Television package , and the Gilligan's Island series. All of Elvis films made at any of these studios were owned by Turner.

[Diane]

If I'm not mistaken, I think there are a few college classes on Elvis, his music and his impact on the musical world and culture.

Diane

[KPM]

If I'm not mistaken, I think there are a few college classes on Elvis, his music and his impact on the musical world and culture.

Diane
I know there once was a college course I believe at a Tennessee University about Elvis recall reading it in one of the books. I also seem to recall one at UCLA at one time. Not sure if they are still being taught.
But I can not see how any courses on Sociology, culture, or music history would not have him included somewhere in the course.

[Elvislives72]

Actually my friend Turner needed no deal with EPE to show Elvis movies anytime he wanted, as often as he wanted-since he owned them outright and EPE had no ownership in them at all. He actually did not need them to do anything with the films. He colorized "Jailhouse Rock" and no one could stop him because it was his.
Turner acquired the MGM film library, dating back to pre-merger days, as well as the pre-1948 Warner Bros. catalog, the entire RKO library, and a good share of United Artists's own backlist.
as well as the United Artists Television package , and the Gilligan's Island series. All of Elvis films made at any of these studios were owned by Turner.True Turner owned the movie collection but TT and EPE worked together with Turner South. It was originally supposed to be built around Elvis' era but the plan fell through only to keep the original plan to include Elvis movies as part of their rotation.

Back when TS debuted, there was an average of 1 Elvis movie a day on there. Elvis-the Early Years mini series also was shown. I used to be amazed at how much they showed Elvis on TS. Now they hardly ever show his movies anymore.:'(

[Raised on Rock]

Pare down the cateloge to a handfull of essential releases that encompasses his entire career.

Vehemently and visibly dispute the stereotype of the fat, drugged, racist Elvis.

Stop releasing multiple compilations every year and make new releases a true event.

Don't turn Elvis, Graceland or his legacy into a circus.

Stop the remixes and duet crap. His original music is good enough to attract fans. Extra instruments and voices is always a worse result than the original.

Market Elvis with celebrities that appeal to youth who are true fans.

Basically, treat Elvis as what he was, an innovative, talented performer and generally overall nice guy who helped change society and stop trying so hard to make him what he wasn't.

NOW THAT IS TCB!!! (y)

[EnigmaticSun]

Could anyone explain me how Elvis changed society?

I totally respect Elvis - obviously - but there are so many unfriendly individuals out there. Didn't they heed Elvis' advice?

[Raised on Rock]

I agree with Diane and anyone else who thinks that there should be an all Elvis Presley channel so that children can learn about him and his music. I also think that there should be a class taught about Elvis that would be cool.:king:

You are joking right?

[KPM]

Could anyone explain me how Elvis changed society?
I totally respect Elvis - obviously - but there are so many unfriendly individuals out there. Didn't they heed Elvis' advice?
IMO he helped allow people to be who they were- by being who he was-without apologies.

[Elvislives72]

Actually a class on Elvis and the Roots of American Music in American schools would be an excellent idea and improtance to American culture!(y)(y)

[KPM]

Actually a class on Elvis and the Roots of American Music in American schools would be an excellent idea and improtance to American culture!(y)(y)
That might be a good idea-but most Americans think we do not teach enough fundamentals in the classroom-and that too much time is wasted on things of little importance. So It would be a hard sell IMO

[Elvislives72]

That might be a good idea-but most Americans think we do not teach enough fundamentals in the classroom-and that too much time is wasted on things of little importance. So It would be a hard sell IMO

It could be taught in US History classes since it's a major part of our culture and our society today.

[KPM]

It could be taught in US History classes since it's a major part of our culture and our society today.
It could be yes-but it would be a very very hard sell to most citizens whos taxes fund the education system.
I know in my area junior high school-middle school I mean-sports teams were dropped as part of cutbacks years ago. Music has also taken cuts-the mindset on education is more of the 3 Rs Reading- Writing- Arithmetic.
Anything which might smack of pop culture education would never get through most local districts IMO
Personally I see nothing wrong with the idea-just hard to sell to many.

[presley31]

It would be interesting to see elvs being discussed in schools, but doubt that would go over well with the kids today. Just my opinion.

[KPM]

It would be interesting to see elvs being discussed in schools, but doubt that would go over well with the kids today. Just my opinion.
Any topic which might lead to more learning and less violence would be great.
We have trouble constantly in the local high school. Front page of our paper yesterday-2 separate fights, gang related and seven different police cars local state and county involved. When I went to that school in 3 years I was there-police were never called once. Very different atmosphere today.

[presley31]

Any topic which might lead to more learning and less violence would be great.
We have trouble constantly in the local high school. Front page of our paper yesterday-2 separate fights, gang related and seven different police cars local state and county involved. When I went to that school in 3 years I was there-police were never called once. Very different atmosphere today.

agreed. There is shootings at schools every week down here where l live and it really scares me thinking of whats going to happen when my son's in school so l think the violence being stopped should be the number one thing in the future.

[KPM]

agreed. There is shootings at schools every week down here where l live and it really scares me thinking of whats going to happen when my son's in school so l think the violence should be the number one thing in the future.
Total agreement(y)

[Diane]

We are starting to get that problem in our area too...even drive-by shootings. Seems like there is more and more violence everywhere now. I guess I grew up in the right time as that was a very rare thing then and we only saw it on the news.

Diane

[KPM]

We are starting to get that problem in our area too...even drive-by shootings. Seems like there is more and more violence everywhere now. I guess I grew up in the right time as that was a very rare thing then and we only saw it on the news.

Diane
So true, I never imagined that things like this would be almost common place.
Its not pleasant to think of.:blush:

[Genie]

An all Elvis channel.....it's known around our house that my husband "owns" the TV and I "own" the computer. There would be a big switch in a hurry:D!!!
Too bad there isn't enough material to take this seriously.:'(

Diane
:blush:

I have been personally appauled by what our younger generation thinks of as music... but otherwise, if the world should last so long, Elvis holds his own in his own way and all by himself....Yes, we as fans keep him alive and well everyday in memory and in writings..sites such as this one, but I believe he can handle it til the end of time...
There will always be Elvis fans, of all ages and the music will never die.:'(

[kamikazeeab2003]

I'm afraid A TV Station would suffer from lack of "Elvis" material, but maybe The GK show on sirius could be simulcast, and similar live Elvis-related events could be telecast in addition to the Elvis material. Just a thought.

[TotallyInsane]

I'm afraid A TV Station would suffer from lack of "Elvis" material, but maybe The GK show on sirius could be simulcast, and similar live Elvis-related events could be telecast in addition to the Elvis material. Just a thought.

Please no, not GK!!!! :D:D

[Diane]

Aww, George isn't that bad. He may have an inflated ego but he was close to Elvis and does have things to say that are interesting and he's not always dwelling on the drugs.

Diane

[TotallyInsane]

Aww, George isn't that bad. He may have an inflated ego but he was close to Elvis and does have things to say that are interesting and he's not always dwelling on the drugs.

Diane


Per George "OK, let me set the stage and you take it from there" - he doesn't mean any harm but he gets on my last nerve!! I never knew had it not been for George poor old Elvis would have never gotten a girlfriend!!!
:D:D

[Diane]

Oh boy...it's more inflated than I realized. That's quite a turnaround. None of them would have gotten the girls had it not been for Elvis.

Diane

[Elvislives72]

It would be interesting to see elvs being discussed in schools, but doubt that would go over well with the kids today. Just my opinion. You never know until you try something. Just look at who's our new president. Nobody thought that could ever happen in this lifetime.:D

[Elvislives72]

I'm afraid A TV Station would suffer from lack of "Elvis" material, but maybe The GK show on sirius could be simulcast, and similar live Elvis-related events could be telecast in addition to the Elvis material. Just a thought.
I don't understand how some of you are coming up with a lack of material as a reason an All-Elvis tv network couldn't work. There's plenty of available material both commercially and imported that could be used plus room for new specials and documentaries. It doesn't have to be a 24/7 programming. It could be 16-18 hours a day. I just find this as a lazy excuse without doing any research.

I posted a full list of available programming options the other day on this thread. Here it is again.

Motion Pictures
Love Me Tender
Loving You
Jailhouse Rock
Jailhouse Rock (colorized version)
King Creole
GI Blues
Flaming Star
Wild In The Country
Blue Hawaii
Follow That Dream
Kid Galahad
Girls Girls Girls
It Happened At The World's Fair
Fun In Acapulco
Roustabout
Viva Las Vegas
Kissin Cousins
Tickle Me
Girl Happy
Harum scarum
Spinout
Frankie And Johnnie
Easy Come Easy Go
Paradise Hawaiian Style
Double Trouble
Clambake
Stay Away Joe
Speedway
Live A Little, Love A Little
Charro
The Trouble With Girls
Change Of Habit
That's The Way It Is
That's The`Way It Is Special Edition
Elvis On Tour


Documentaries & Specials
Elvis 56
The Early Years
The Ed Sullivan years
Welcome Home Elvis-Frank Sinatra special
From The Waist Up
68 Comeback
68 Comeback deluxe addition
Aloha Dress Rehearsal
Aloha From Hawaii
Elvis In Concert
This Is Elvis
Elvis (1979 ABC mini series played by Kurt Russell)
Elvis & The Beauty Queen
Elvis & Me
The Echo Will Never Die
The Great Performances Vol 1 & 2
Elvis Lives (2002 NBC Thanksgiving special)
Elvis Viva Las Vegas (2007 ABC Special)
Elvis Presley's Memphis (Travel channel special)
Elvis' Graceland (travel channel special)
Elvis Presley's Graceland hosted by Priscilla Presley
The Lost Performances
Elvis Lives (25th Anniversary concert from Memphis)
Elvis By The Presley's
Elvis CBS mini series

This list doesn't include any bootlegs or import videos. All commerical.

[KPM]

I don't understand how some of you are coming up with a lack of material as a reason an All-Elvis tv network couldn't work. There's plenty of available material both commercially and imported that could be used plus room for new specials and documentaries. It doesn't have to be a 24/7 programming. It could be 16-18 hours a day. I just find this as a lazy excuse without doing any research.

I posted a full list of available programming options the other day on this thread. Here it is again.

Motion Pictures
Love Me Tender
Loving You
Jailhouse Rock
Jailhouse Rock (colorized version)
King Creole
GI Blues
Flaming Star
Wild In The Country
Blue Hawaii
Follow That Dream
Kid Galahad
Girls Girls Girls
It Happened At The World's Fair
Fun In Acapulco
Roustabout
Viva Las Vegas
Kissin Cousins
Tickle Me
Girl Happy
Harum scarum
Spinout
Frankie And Johnnie
Easy Come Easy Go
Paradise Hawaiian Style
Double Trouble
Clambake
Stay Away Joe
Speedway
Live A Little, Love A Little
Charro
The Trouble With Girls
Change Of Habit
That's The Way It Is
That's The`Way It Is Special Edition
Elvis On Tour


Documentaries & Specials
Elvis 56
The Early Years
The Ed Sullivan years
Welcome Home Elvis-Frank Sinatra special
From The Waist Up
68 Comeback
68 Comeback deluxe addition
Aloha Dress Rehearsal
Aloha From Hawaii
Elvis In Concert
This Is Elvis
Elvis (1979 ABC mini series played by Kurt Russell)
Elvis & The Beauty Queen
Elvis & Me
The Echo Will Never Die
The Great Performances Vol 1 & 2
Elvis Lives (2002 NBC Thanksgiving special)
Elvis Viva Las Vegas (2007 ABC Special)
Elvis Presley's Memphis (Travel channel special)
Elvis' Graceland (travel channel special)
Elvis Presley's Graceland hosted by Priscilla Presley
The Lost Performances
Elvis Lives (25th Anniversary concert from Memphis)
Elvis By The Presley's
Elvis CBS mini series

This list doesn't include any bootlegs or import videos. All commerical.
The movies total 49 hours of programming as I pointed out before.
All of these specials are full of footage culled from other sources and much of that footage is repeated in them. You have listed 24 specials or movies on Elvis after his films. If they were all 8 hours long-its still only 192 hours of broadcast time-so from what is listed we have 49 hours of his movies and 192 hours of others-total approximately 241 hours in the list.
If you have infomercials for 10 hours a day that leaves you 14 hours a day times 365 days to program-5110 hours per year of time to fill.
5110-241=4869 You would be repeating the same programs all the time.
You would have to produce quite a bit of new shows, material something to fill all that time.
IF we can not even get a decent EOT with 4 or 5 DVDs of cleaned up remastered extras-I just do not see anyone going into the All Elvis TV business. As much as I might like the idea-IMO its just not feasable.

[Elvislives72]

The movies total 49 hours of programming as I pointed out before.
All of these specials are full of footage culled from other sources and much of that footage is repeated in them. You have listed 24 specials or movies on Elvis after his films. If they were all 8 hours long-its still only 192 hours of broadcast time-so from what is listed we have 49 hours of his movies and 192 hours of others-total approximately 241 hours in the list.
If you have infomercials for 10 hours a day that leaves you 14 hours a day times 365 days to program-5110 hours per year of time to fill.
5110-241=4869 You would be repeating the same programs all the time.
You would have to produce quite a bit of new shows, material something to fill all that time.
IF we can not even get a decent EOT with 4 or 5 DVDs of cleaned up remastered extras-I just do not see anyone going into the All Elvis TV business. As much as I might like the idea-IMO its just not feasable.

I'm not gonna argue with you because no matter what I post you're gonna try and turn it another way. I've post facts and I've explained how it WOULD work but you still won't pay attention to the possibilities.

FYI, most stations repeat programming during the week for those who miss it the first time. HBO, Showtime, TCM etc all do this.

[KPM]

I'm not gonna argue with you because no matter what I post you're gonna try and turn it another way. I've post facts and I've explained how it WOULD work but you still won't pay attention to the possibilities.

FYI, most stations repeat programming during the week for those who miss it the first time. HBO, Showtime, TCM etc all do this.
What you have explained is how you think it could work-it is not definitive fact it is opinion. Just as my case is also an opinion based on the facts that I posted-are my numbers incorrect? I gave each of the specials you listed a very large number-8 hours each. We know they are not near that length but I was generous. Are there 365 days in a year? Math does not lie.
If Elvis were alive-if he was still producing things each year and had for the last 31 years-perhaps.
You are correct that HBO, SHowtime etc repeat programming, but they have a never ending source of new films and productions. New films are produced every single year and whats on this December on HBO- will not be the exact same programming next December 2009. I am not turning anything you post around-I am pointing out the other side.

[Elvislives72]

What you have explained is how you think it could work-it is not definitive fact it is opinion. Just as my case is also an opinion based on the facts that I posted-are my numbers incorrect? I gave each of the specials you listed a very large number-8 hours each. We know they are not near that length but I was generous. Are there 365 days in a year? Math does not lie.
If Elvis were alive-if he was still producing things each year and had for the last 31 years-perhaps.
You are correct that HBO, SHowtime etc repeat programming, but they have a never ending source of new films and productions. New films are produced every single year and whats on this December on HBO- will not be the exact same programming next December 2009. I am not turning anything you post around-I am pointing out the other side.

I have broke it down piece by piece and you still don't get it so I'm through with this topic. Next....

[KPM]

I have broke it down piece by piece and you still don't get it so I'm through with this topic. Next....
And so do I with what I have posted- because you see it so cut and dry-that does not make it so.You have given an opinion-and so have I. I have broke mine down hour by hour, piece by piece.
If you see some fault in my numbers-for the amount of time that needs to be filled in 365 days after 10 hours of infomercials each day-explain to me where the numbers are incorrect. I am willing to listen if I missed something.

[Miss Clawdy]

Could anyone explain me how Elvis changed society?

As the American composer Leonard Bernstein put it, 'Elvis Presley is the greatest cultural force of the 20th century. He introduced the beat to everything, and he changed everything - music, language, clothes.... A whole social revolution - the Sixties comes from it.'

I think he was right on the money :D.

[Teddy]

My suggestion: Stop diluting Elvis's work by adding vocals from contemporary country artists or endorsing remixes which age more conspicuously than the originals.
The material actually sounds more current and will endure more successfully without these misguided concessions to the present day.
It embarrasses the old fans and perplexes the new. The result is that you alienate everybody while trying to please everybody.

[rocknroll]

I'm not gonna argue with you because no matter what I post you're gonna try and turn it another way. I've post facts and I've explained how it WOULD work but you still won't pay attention to the possibilities.

FYI, most stations repeat programming during the week for those who miss it the first time. HBO, Showtime, TCM etc all do this.

There is also such a thing as "over kill", which quite possibly could have the opposite affect of what you intend.

[rocknroll]

My suggestion: Stop diluting Elvis's work by adding vocals from contemporary country artists or endorsing remixes which age more conspicuously than the originals.
The material actually sounds more current and will endure more successfully without these misguided concessions to the present day.
It embarrasses the old fans and perplexes the new. The result is that you alienate everybody while trying to please everybody.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I could have tried, but I would not have been successful. :D

[Teddy]

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[ehollier]

My suggestion: Stop diluting Elvis's work by adding vocals from contemporary country artists or endorsing remixes which age more conspicuously than the originals.
The material actually sounds more current and will endure more successfully without these misguided concessions to the present day.
It embarrasses the old fans and perplexes the new. The result is that you alienate everybody while trying to please everybody.

Beautifully said!!!!! ;)

[presley31]

IMO there isn't enough elvis on tv here where l live and when they do put some on its only on elvis birthday and anniversary so l would thilled to see more. As for the remixes l really enjoy them and glad they have them around.

[ehollier]

My suggestion: Stop diluting Elvis's work by adding vocals from contemporary country artists or endorsing remixes which age more conspicuously than the originals.
The material actually sounds more current and will endure more successfully without these misguided concessions to the present day.
It embarrasses the old fans and perplexes the new. The result is that you alienate everybody while trying to please everybody.

The originals existing their purest form are what makes Elvis' music so enduring and classic. The 'newer' sounding versions to his already unique and timeless music will die as fast as the any other current music does today.

[Elvislives72]

If not all-Elvis EPE could work with MTV and VH1 and build an station that way where it's about Elvis but features other musical acts from his era like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis etc.. They could include Ricky Nelson's movies and specials since they have some type of ownership or overlook of his estate as well.

EPE/CKX could become the new foundation for preserving Rockabilly altogether.(y)

[presley31]

I have noticed on youtube that some of the younger fans are taking elvis music and putting rap into them and l for one don't agree with that at all.

[Elvislives72]

The originals existing their purest form are what makes Elvis' music so enduring and classic. The 'newer' sounding versions to his already unique and timeless music will die as fast as the any other current music does today.
I disagree to a point. Back when the ALLC remix came out many long time Elvis fans were saying then that it would be forgotten within 5 years. Here it's been 6 years and counting and that song is played or downloaded just as much as any other original Elvis song.

There was a poll a few years back that asked what was your favorite Elvis song and ALLC won. Both mainstream remixes have been used for numerous movie soundtracks including the latest Disney aminated hit Bolt.

The fact is the kids love them.(y)

[Elvislives72]

I have noticed on youtube that some of the younger fans are taking elvis music and putting rap into them and l for one don't agree with that at all.

I've noticed this as well.:hmm: I don't care for rap but if it gets the kids to listen to him or even a sample of his voice or work, then more power to them.(y)

[presley31]

I've noticed this as well.:hmm: I don't care for rap but if it gets the kids to listen to him or even a sample of his voice or work, then more power to them.(y)

we will have to disgree with this one.

[Teddy]

The fact is the kids love them.(y)

Some of the kids might love them but is it turning them into bonafide Graceland-going Elvis fans? They're into the track- not him. That's the nature of dance music- as a genre it is largely faceless and characteristically fickle.
And it definitely remains to be seen if these remixes will enjoy any more than a tiny fraction of the enduring appeal that the originals do. I seriously don't think these tracks are in the business of creating a new generation of Elvis fans either, no matter what the vested interests would like us to believe.
If a few kids end up checking out the originals and getting into his back catalogue then sure, these remixes might have some merit, but that JXL track is only likely to be played in another 10 years as an example of what dance remixes sounded like in 2002.

[Elvislives72]

we will have to disgree with this one.

Why? It doesn't do any harm. If anything his name and his music is being mentioned or heard whereas it wouldn't be without some interest. That's a positive and free publicity!(y)

You have to remember just because we as fans dislike what they do with his music or his home doesn't mean it's right or wrong. We do have the right as people to like or dislike and voice our opinions. But telling someone else not to mess with it isn't our right.

For instance, I personally think Graceland should remain nastalgic, the home that is. But I have no right whatsoever to tell Sillerman or whoever what to do with THEIR own money. Neither does anyone else. We don't own the music or the estate so it's not for us to decide what's right or wrong or what they do. We're just fans, not family or associates.

Anyway, just something to think about.;)

[Elvislives72]

Some of the kids might love them but is it turning them into bonafide Graceland-going Elvis fans? They're into the track- not him. That's the nature of dance music- as a genre it is largely faceless and characteristically fickle.
And it definitely remains to be seen if these remixes will enjoy any more than a tiny fraction of the enduring appeal that the originals do. I seriously don't think these tracks are in the business of creating a new generation of Elvis fans either, no matter what the vested interests would like us to believe.
If a few kids end up checking out the originals and getting into his back catalogue then sure, these remixes might have some merit, but that JXL track is only likely to be played in another 10 years as an example of what dance remixes sounded like in 2002.

Well to be fair, more young adults and children are visiting Graceland at record numbers, so apparently something's working.;)


And like it or not. ALLC is now a staple in the Elvis catalog and on Elvis radio and here to stay. I'm not a fan of remixes as some but I do appreciate seeing Elvis back in the spotlight because of them. (y)

[presley31]

Why? It doesn't do any harm. If anything his name and his music is being mentioned or heard whereas it wouldn't be without some interest. That's a positive and free publicity!(y)

You have to remember just because we as fans dislike what they do with his music or his home doesn't mean it's right or wrong. We do have the right as people to like or dislike and voice our opinions. But telling someone else not to mess with it isn't our right.

For instance, I personally think Graceland should remain nastalgic, the home that is. But I have no right whatsoever to tell Sillerman or whoever what to do with THEIR own money. Neither does anyone else. We don't own the music or the estate so it's not for us to decide what's right or wrong or what they do. We're just fans, not family or associates.

Anyway, just something to think about.;)

No offense but when people don't care for them you have to accept it and move on cause you can't go around changing people's opinions. I'am still going to say that there is more problems in the world than worrying about the future of elvis presley at the moment.

[Elvislives72]

No offense but when people don't care for them you have to accept it and move on cause you can't go around changing people's opinions. I'am still going to say that there is more problems in the world than worrying about the future of elvis presley at the moment.

I agree but talking about Elvis and his future takes some of the pressure and stress off with this messed up economy we're in. cough**Bush**cough.

[utmom2008]

And so do I with what I have posted- because you see it so cut and dry-that does not make it so.You have given an opinion-and so have I. I have broke mine down hour by hour, piece by piece.
If you see some fault in my numbers-for the amount of time that needs to be filled in 365 days after 10 hours of infomercials each day-explain to me where the numbers are incorrect. I am willing to listen if I missed something.
I agree with you completely Ken. I see no way for it to work, let alone be successful.



There is also such a thing as "over kill", which quite possibly could have the opposite affect of what you intend.
Exactly! If you go to Memphis and stay at the HH a few days you will find the all Elvis programming can become redundant.:blush::blink:

[EnigmaticSun]

he changed everything - music, language, clothes.... A whole social revolution - the Sixties comes from it.'

I know that quote.

The strange thing is: I do like Elvis, his music and his clothes, but I generally dislike today's clothes, music and attitude.

And to be quite frank here I despise the 60's, but that's a personal issue as I've been a victim of that era. You know.. like River Phoenix with such peaceful spiritual parents.

Anyway.. It's somewhat contradictory to me. I know Elvis had his doubts about some phenomena from the 60's. That's why it's so difficult for people to understand his thinking and they create this image of a hypocritical traitor to the real rock 'n roll ("The Rolling Stone" effect).

In my heart I'm definitely more of a 50's man. :)

[Burning_Love]

This is tough.

Being a young Elvis fan i believe you can't make or help someone become an Elvis fan.

To become one i had to go there and visit Graceland, obviously not on purpose, my family are fans but i weren't. Before that i had no interest.
Some others would maybe watch him on a concert. It just happened.

But i think it's just something that happens. Maybe if they brought out a few more remixes or played him on the tv a lot more things would be different.

[rocknroll]

Some of the kids might love them but is it turning them into bonafide Graceland-going Elvis fans? They're into the track- not him. That's the nature of dance music- as a genre it is largely faceless and characteristically fickle.
And it definitely remains to be seen if these remixes will enjoy any more than a tiny fraction of the enduring appeal that the originals do. I seriously don't think these tracks are in the business of creating a new generation of Elvis fans either, no matter what the vested interests would like us to believe.
If a few kids end up checking out the originals and getting into his back catalogue then sure, these remixes might have some merit, but that JXL track is only likely to be played in another 10 years as an example of what dance remixes sounded like in 2002.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I could have tried, but I would not have been successful.:):)

[rocknroll]

I disagree to a point. Back when the ALLC remix came out many long time Elvis fans were saying then that it would be forgotten within 5 years. Here it's been 6 years and counting and that song is played or downloaded just as much as any other original Elvis song.

There was a poll a few years back that asked what was your favorite Elvis song and ALLC won. Both mainstream remixes have been used for numerous movie soundtracks including the latest Disney aminated hit Bolt.

The fact is the kids love them.(y)

Sounds like you COMPLETELY disagree.

The remix of ALLC has been reduced to movie soundtracks and is already getting tired. The remix of Ruberneckin' has done nothing.

Elvis' original recordings will always be timeless.

Haven't we argued this before?

[utmom2008]

The remix of ALLC has been reduced to movie soundtracks and is already getting tired. The remix of Ruberneckin' has done nothing.

Elvis' original recordings will always be timeless.

Haven't we argued this before?

You are sooo right, on all counts.;);)(y)

[ehollier]

You know, my daughter was 8 yrs old this time last year and, as I do each holiday season, without fail, I had Elvis Christmas music on in the car -- the new CD that was released last year or the previous one, and she was looking at the CD cover and asking questions about him. I do not know what caught her attention be it the music or his face on the CD, but she was apparently interested in something.

I explained to her who Elvis was and that its the same music we listen to every year at Christmas time. When we got home, I went to YT and showed her a few videos of him which only made her more interested and wanted to see more, which lead to my building a new collection of his re-mastered work. I had gotten away from listening to him except for the 2 best selling CD's Elvis at 30 and Elvis 2nd to None, and I must admit, not too frequently. So, I bought all of the dvd concerts, a few movies (her favorite is Live a Little, Love a Little) and a few select CD's and she has been completely entralled with Elvis ever since.

I do not know, particularly, what chord Elvis struck in her, but she, in her own words "just can't get enough of him." She was only 8 at the time. I just cannot explain it.

[KPM]

THe ALLC remix hit at the right time-had everything in the world going for it.
ALLC was featured in Oceans 11 then it became the anthem for World Cup Soccer with the Nike commercial.
It was a pretty well done remix and got air play around the world.
But the song iself had a basic structure which lended it well to a rap type sound. This "Perfect Remix Storm" was not planned, nor could it have been foreseen by anyone who likes remixes. I liked it, it was certified gold on 3-31-06- did well (as far as singles go nowadays)
The circumstances above will not happen each time someone thinks they can remix an ELvis song.

[Merry]

You know, my daughter was 8 yrs old this time last year and, <snip>

I do not know, particularly, what chord Elvis struck in her, but she, in her own words "just can't get enough of him." She was only 8 at the time. I just cannot explain it.


Dear Elizabeth,

If I may be so bold, in my opinion, or experience (from when I was a little girl), what your little girl is picking up with her innocence and instinct, is that Elvis was a good person (besides his talent).

:hug:
Kimmi

[utmom2008]

If I may be so bold, in my opinion, or experience (from when I was a little girl), what your little girl is picking up with her innocence and instinct, is that Elvis was a good person (besides his talent).

I was 9 years old when the Elvis 68 Special first aired. I was an innocent child as well, but I can tell you it was NOT his "good person" persona that knocked my socks off. Let's just say that at the tender age of 9 I knew I would have no gender issues. I was very much a heterosexual 9 year old child.:lmfao::lmfao:(y)

[ehollier]

I was 9 years old when the Elvis 68 Special first aired. I was an innocent child as well, but I can tell you it was NOT his "good person" persona that knocked my socks off. Let's just say that at the tender age of 9 I knew I would have no gender issues. I was very much a heterosexual 9 year old child.:lmfao::lmfao:(y)

Yeah, Rosie, then there's that, too.....:blush::blush::blush:....sometimes I have to wonder about Catherine when she gets this little grin on her face and says "I just can't get enough of him. I can't help it." I just say, "Yes, baby. Mom knows." and hopefully she's okay with my answer, b/c as Kimmi realizes only today, I'm a little slow sometimes when it comes to getting stuff like this........;)

[presley31]

Dear Elizabeth,

If I may be so bold, in my opinion, or experience (from when I was a little girl), what your little girl is picking up with her innocence and instinct, is that Elvis was a good person (besides his talent).

:hug:
Kimmi

My neice when she comes for visits she wants to hear elvis music but she doesn't want to watch any dvds about elvis so l asked her why and she said l'am not in love with him like you :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: smart 8 year old.

[Tony Trout]

I was 9 years old when the Elvis 68 Special first aired. I was an innocent child as well, but I can tell you it was NOT his "good person" persona that knocked my socks off. Let's just say that at the tender age of 9 I knew I would have no gender issues. I was very much a heterosexual 9 year old child.:lmfao::lmfao:(y)



You are absolutely hilarious, woman!! :P:P

For me, I'm actually not sure what turned me onto being an Elvis fan, to be honest. I either watched "Elvis On Tour" or "TTWII" or the "'68 Comeback Special" and I was instantly hooked. (y)(y)

The first cassette (remember those? LOL) that I got had "ELVIS" in red letters with a pic of him during one of the stand-up shows on it and it had alot of the 1950s songs on it. I wish I still had that cassette. :'(:'(

[midnight]

I was 9 years old when the Elvis 68 Special first aired. I was an innocent child as well, but I can tell you it was NOT his "good person" persona that knocked my socks off. Let's just say that at the tender age of 9 I knew I would have no gender issues. I was very much a heterosexual 9 year old child.:lmfao::lmfao:(y)

I was 7 years old when I first saw Elvis on TV in 1973. I was so taken in by his good looks. I mean he made my Ken Barbie doll look like a wimp!!:lmfao: I thought he was a real life prince!

[Donut]

I mean he made my Ken Barbie doll look like a wimp!!

:laughing:

[KPM]

You are absolutely hilarious, woman!! :P:P

For me, I'm actually not sure what turned me onto being an Elvis fan, to be honest. I either watched "Elvis On Tour" or "TTWII" or the "'68 Comeback Special" and I was instantly hooked. (y)(y)

The first cassette (remember those? LOL) that I got had "ELVIS" in red letters with a pic of him during one of the stand-up shows on it and it had alot of the 1950s songs on it. I wish I still had that cassette. :'(:'(
Seeing the movie "Blue Hawaii" at the drive-in with my aunt in 1962-that started my status as fan.

[Merry]

Yeah, Rosie, then there's that, too.....:blush::blush::blush:....sometimes I have to wonder about Catherine when she gets this little grin on her face and says "I just can't get enough of him. I can't help it." I just say, "Yes, baby. Mom knows." and hopefully she's okay with my answer, b/c as Kimmi realizes only today, I'm a little slow sometimes when it comes to getting stuff like this........;)


That's alright, Elizabeth, lol, I'll help ya! lol

:blush::blush::blush:

[ehollier]

I was 7 years old when I first saw Elvis on TV in 1973. I was so taken in by his good looks. I mean he made my Ken Barbie doll look like a wimp!!:lmfao: I thought he was a real life prince!

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

You're right!! In his prime, he did set the bar very high for others that were performing when he was performing.....As a child, I never could understand why other musicans that I would see on TV wouldn't sing with their eyes closed and just stood still???? In my child's mind, it was "Must be something wrong with him....his eyes are open"....

[ehollier]

:laughing:

With this grin on your smiley, you must be thinking of Teddybear, huh.......

[Donut]

With this grin on your smiley, you must be thinking of Teddybear, huh.......

Why? Does he look like Ken?

[ehollier]

Why? Does he look like Ken?


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: Well, maybe Ken, but hairier........

[Donut]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: Well, maybe Ken, but hairier........

I think you are mixing Ken with Mike Stone...

[ehollier]

I think you are mixing Ken with Mike Stone...

:'( :'( :'(

Not the world's most handsome man, but different strokes for different folks....Apparently, he rocked Priscilla's world.....:blink:

[Donut]

:'( :'( :'(

Not the world's most handsome man, but different strokes for different folks....Apparently, he rocked Priscilla's world.....:blink:

Apparently he had hair to share with 10 men.

[KPM]

I think you are mixing Ken with Mike Stone...
Wait a minute my name is Ken-I never laid a hand on Priscilla ever.:)

[Donut]

Wait a minute my name is Ken-I never laid a hand on Priscilla ever.:)

You better not, I think Teddy was around here a moment ago :lol:

[KPM]

You better not, I think Teddy was around here a moment ago :lol:
No not me- allergic to plastic.;) (Just a joke)

[midnight]

:'( :'( :'(

Not the world's most handsome man, but different strokes for different folks....Apparently, he rocked Priscilla's world.....:blink:

Whatever he rocked her with, it was not his looks! I would say he had a fine boat!!:lmfao::lmfao:

[presley31]

I know that quote.

The strange thing is: I do like Elvis, his music and his clothes, but I generally dislike today's clothes, music and attitude.
And to be quite frank here I despise the 60's, but that's a personal issue as I've been a victim of that era. You know.. like River Phoenix with such peaceful spiritual parents.

Anyway.. It's somewhat contradictory to me. I know Elvis had his doubts about some phenomena from the 60's. That's why it's so difficult for people to understand his thinking and they create this image of a hypocritical traitor to the real rock 'n roll ("The Rolling Stone" effect).

In my heart I'm definitely more of a 50's man. :)

I think that what made elvis unique was his own style and the way he did things and his manners towards elders was a great in my eyes. Today you don't see the same manners elvis or anybody had back in the 50's up and to me this is very inportant and l do teach my child the same thing l got taught and that was respect.

[Donut]

No not me- allergic to plastic.;) (Just a joke)

:lol:...

*runs and hides under the sofa*

[presley31]

do you guys really have to ruin the threads all the time about priscilla for pete sake?? no wonder threads get closed!!!

[ehollier]

..... I would say he had a fine boat!!:lmfao::lmfao:

Wonder if it was a dinghy or luxury liner cruise ship......:blink::blink::blink:

[Teddy]

Wait a minute my name is Ken-I never laid a hand on Priscilla ever.:)
That's why you're still breathing :mad:

[Teddy]

do you guys really have to ruin the threads all the time about priscilla for pete sake?? no wonder threads get closed!!!

It's not mentioning Priscilla that closes threads- it's saying mean things about Priscilla which closes threads! :mad:

[presley31]

It's not mentioning Priscilla that closes threads- it's saying mean things about Priscilla which closes threads! :mad:

Yeah and also keep going off topic does that also teddy;)

[Teddy]

Hey, I didn't start it! I was contributing very sensibly to this thread earlier today! :mad:

[utmom2008]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

You're right!! In his prime, he did set the bar very high for others that were performing when he was performing.....As a child, I never could understand why other musicans that I would see on TV wouldn't sing with their eyes closed and just stood still???? In my child's mind, it was "Must be something wrong with him....his eyes are open"....

Are you trying to tell us that Lawrence Welk wasn't your cup of tea? Or Andy Williams didn't make your keys jingle?:lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

Are you trying to tell us that Lawrence Welk wasn't your cup of tea? Or Andy Williams didn't make your keys jingle?:lmfao::lmfao:

No, I am sure that they didn't. After experiencing Elvis, albeit at even such a young age, there wasn't much comparison......:blush:

[midnight]

Wonder if it was a dinghy or luxury liner cruise ship......:blink::blink::blink:

I would say a dinghy and a deflated one at that!:lol:

[ehollier]

I would say a dinghy and a deflated one at that!:lol:

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[utmom2008]

do you guys really have to ruin the threads all the time about priscilla for pete sake?? no wonder threads get closed!!!


Yeah and also keep going off topic does that also teddy;)


It's not mentioning Priscilla that closes threads- it's saying mean things about Priscilla which closes threads! :mad:

I think that ALL involved(yes, even Teddy) are simply having a little light-hearted fun, a little tongue in cheek humor. I find it funny after some of the needless crap that has gone on here over the last several days!:lol::lol::lol:(y)

[Brian]

I'm not sure there is anything that can be done for introducing Elvis to a new generation that isn't already been done over and over and we've hit the bottom of the barrel as far as new material.

It's too bad Elvis didn't do a couple more recording sessions or tape a couple more t.v. specials for new fans to be exposed to but oh well.

The best idea I can come up with is to feature Elvis more mature songs from the late 60's and 70's and for Sony Bmg to start promoting them and for Sillerman to put some of them in movies and commercials.
Also i've always thought Sony doesn't put out enough compilations concentrating on the 70's.

I know EPE showcases the 50's most of the time but I know a lot of people just don't like 50's rock and would probably like the maturity in Elvis later songs.

Take the best songs from the 70's like: Just Pretend, How the web was woven, IGTAb, In your sleep, Moody blue etc.

This would surprise a lot of people who think Elvis is just Hound dog and don't be cruel.

Show pictures of Elvis from the 70's when he was thin instead of the chubby Elvis and forget about showing the images of Elvis from 1976 or 77.

[Elvislives72]

Don't know if y'all have heard or not but there's a new innovative video game using the image of The Beatles coming out. I wonder why EPE never considered this with Elvis?:hmm:

[utmom2008]

Don't know if y'all have heard or not but there's a new innovative video game using the image of The Beatles coming out. I wonder why EPE never considered this with Elvis?:hmm:

Maybe EPE has better sense and more class than we give them credit for.;);):lol:

[Raised on Rock]

We all know that the future of Elvis and his longevity lies in the hands of the next generation of fans. So what are your ideas that you think Sillerman and EPE should focus on to keep them interested in Elvis? And please don't say releasing Elvis In Concert on dvd as one of them. That would be detrimental to his legacy.

Here's a few of my own ideas that I would like to see them do.

1. EPE should find a way to merge with Viacom and develop the world's first ever cable tv's Elvis television network which would focus on his entire career, from movies, documentaries and concert performances to special presentations from Graceland. The network should be ran and operated on the Graceland grounds just as the Sirius radio channel is. This would be a groundbreaking accomplishment for EPE and Elvis and open many doors to a new generation to discover Elvis without ever buying an Elvis cd or visiting Graceland. It could be done in the form of the current VH1 and MTV musical channels such as VH1 Classics. It could be called Elvis-One or simple name like EPTV as in Elvis Presley TV. There would be enough material to run a full 24/7 programming such as Elvis & Me, Elvis & The Beauty Queen, This Is Elvis, The Early years-ABC short lived series from the early 90's, The Echo Will Never Die, and so on.

2. EPE should look into buying their own riverboat like the General Jackson showboat in Nashville and have weekend tours on the Mississippi river to and from St Louis and New Orleans for a 2-day getaway with an Elvis theme. They could call it the Proud Mary Cruise or something. Book the top ETA Shawn Klush to do live performances on the boat, have former friends of Elvis' such as the band mates to make appearances as special guests. This could also be done especially during Elvis Week as one of the special events. This would be a win-win attraction for all fans young and old. It would also be a romantic getaway with an Elvis twist to it as lovers could enjoy the journey down the Mississippi at night under the stars.(y)

3. An Elvis Music Festival featuring top artists in the music industry to showcase the sounds of Country, Blues, Soul, and Pop/Rock. Make it a 3-day festival with national media coverage and have it in June. Put it on CMT and VH1, maybe MTV as a marathon. Have an Art exhibit and fun things for the kids as well. The festival could be held annually in downtown Memphis on the riverfront.


Anyone have their own ideas to add?


Just to give you an example of the type of boat I was referring to, here's a pic of the General Jackson.

http://www.siscom.net/~mmeece/20072a.jpg

1. About the TV channel.

Don´t you think that after a year on air, (maybe less) it would became repetitive and boring and will end up burning out any interest on Presley?

Plus, most of the time would be spent on the movies, and really? that´s the image that we want to imprint on the new generations?

Now you are talking about reaching a new generation to discover Elvis without ever buying an Elvis cd, by means of and oldies TV channel? new generations does not care about a TCM like or any oldies like channel, in fact they might not be interested in TV anymore in the coming years, its about the web now, despite the legal issues, any teenager interested in Presley knows that you just need to spell Elvis Presley on any torrent searcher, mininova, isohunt or anything of the like, and you´ll get whatever Elvis movie or Cd, complete discography and videography even, in matter of hours. FREE INTERNET ELVIS RADIO that seems more likely, check out the classic rock area on I Tunes radio, 24hrs all Beatles or %100 Grateful Dead FREE radio is been around for years now, what about Elvis? That seems better to me than the TV Channel idea, and it is more simple to accomplish.

About TV, what does sound appealing to me for TV and Video format: remember The Beatles Anthology on TV? and then the long version on DVD? On the same line, both for TV and DVD, to create a documentary based not on the myth, not even on the man, BUT IN HIS MUSIC, to remember that first its about his music. I could only recall Elvis '56 and Elvis Presley on Classic Albums focusing on that matter. Do it with interviews with the TCB BAND, the American Studios Band, Scotty and DJ Fontana, guys from the Nashville sessions both 60's and 70's, Peter Guralnick, Jorgensen, look for old interviews with Sam Philips and contemporary musicians talking about Elvis, not another Elvis by the Presley´s or Memphis Mafia member cheap throwaway please!!! Sometimes look like people want to impose the idea that Elvis was great to newer generations just talking about the man, better just show what the man did.

2. The Riverboat idea.

Please don´t make of Elvis more of a tourist attraction, don´t make of him the Southern Disney ride.

3. The musical festival.

Only if you invite REAL artist with a name of their own. No impersonators, no tribute artists, not just TCB Band or Scotty and D.J backing some low life singer, no second rate pop and country artists.

[EnigmaticSun]

I think that what made elvis unique was his own style and the way he did things and his manners towards elders was a great in my eyes. Today you don't see the same manners..

Well thanks. That is very essential indeed. The elderly can't cope with today's rushing and they seem to be easy victims.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

It's difficult to modernise a classic star like Elvis, people can say Elvis is timeless, in some regard that is right. Great singing is timeless unfortunately the market out there today cares little for great vocals, it's all about Image, the fast cut slick video with very little substance.

You have got to like Elvis for who he is, for the time and era he represents! When you start taking Elvis apart and splicing him with today's artists you are essentially reinventing something completely different. I am not opposed to the odd duet that might hook some new fans, I do however oppose making Elvis into something that he wouldn't have liked (or his fans). If Elvis was around today I'm sure he would have moved with the times, although I don't think he would have strayed to far from the magic formula we have come to know and love.

There are many modern technologies out there, for instance ipods, they are a great way to reach younger generations, being able to download podcasts with clips, or mp3's for free would be a great idea even for some of us oldies. There is serious lack of investment/foresight from EPE/Sillerman, all they have to do is keep in touch with modern technologies put some free media with advertisment out there so people get a taste and then purchase merchandise. It seems to me that certainly EPE only want to see revenue go one way, to them. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate!

[KPM]

It's difficult to modernise a classic star like Elvis, people can say Elvis is timeless, in some regard that is right. Great singing is timeless unfortunately the market out there today cares little for great vocals, it's all about Image, the fast cut slick video with very little substance.
You have got to like Elvis for who he is, for the time and era he represents! When you start taking Elvis apart and splicing him with today's artists you are essentially reinventing something completely different. I am not opposed to the odd duet that might hook some new fans, I do however oppose making Elvis into something that he wouldn't have liked (or his fans). If Elvis was around today I'm sure he would have moved with the times, although I don't think he would have strayed to far from the magic formula we have come to know and love.

There are many modern technologies out there, for instance ipods, they are a great way to reach younger generations, being able to download podcasts with clips, or mp3's for free would be a great idea even for some of us oldies. There is serious lack of investment/foresight from EPE/Sillerman, all they have to do is keep in touch with modern technologies put some free media with advertisment out there so people get a taste and then purchase merchandise. It seems to me that certainly EPE only want to see revenue go one way, to them. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate!
Agree with you my friend.
As I have said in the past-thousands of young people every year- get it!
With no prodding, no remixes, no technology to pretend he exists physically today. These technological attempts at reinvention- should be few and far between IMO
Sometimes we have heard young people say they just saw his picture and that started the ball rolling.
I think their is little concern for truely building the fan base and more concern for creating foot traffic to future exhibits & profit. IMO

[Elvislives72]

From some of the replies on this thread it goes to show there's a lot of pessimism in the Elvis community and no creativity in the imagination or vision. :(

[Diane]

Matt and Ken.........(y)(y)(y)

Diane

[utmom2008]

Matt and Ken.........(y)(y)(y)

Diane

Matt and Ken and Diane.....(y)(y)(y)(y)

[rocknroll]

From some of the replies on this thread it goes to show there's a lot of pessimism in the Elvis community and no creativity in the imagination or vision. :(

You only see pessimism because nobody fell all over themselves in agreeing with you. I see a lot of optimism. I think we all agree that Elvis, as is, has the ability to draw in new and younger fans, as he already is.

[EnigmaticSun]

I think we all agree that Elvis, as is, has the ability to draw in new and younger fans, as he already is.

I already agree with you totally as it is.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

From some of the replies on this thread it goes to show there's a lot of pessimism in the Elvis community and no creativity in the imagination or vision. :(

There is a lot of optimism. What you perceive as pessimism is other fans not agreeing with you ;)

[presley31]

when l become a fan there wasn't any technologies like we have today and for me the sound of elvis voice touched me like no other singer could and the stories that l have read about him made me like him awhole lot more cause he wasn't just a famous person but someone like me and you and wasn't afaid to show his true colours. So back to my point is that we don't need messing around with his music and ETA's and all the updated technologies to enjoy elvis and if some do than they really had experinced the true elvis presley and the man he stood for..Just my opinion.

[Merry]

There is a lot of optimism. What you perceive as pessimism is other fans not agreeing with you ;)



Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) :D

Perhaps it depends on outlook with regard to pessimism, a positive person sees pessimism more than a pessimist? :blink::blink::blink::lmfao:

It's kinda like our existance, do we really exist, or is it our perception? (Don't you love that stuff?) lol

http://eternalvalues.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/buddha.jpg

[utmom2008]

There is a lot of optimism. What you perceive as pessimism is other fans not agreeing with you ;)

Exactly!!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy(y)

[EnigmaticSun]

Yes we can!

[KPM]

There is a lot of optimism. What you perceive as pessimism is other fans not agreeing with you ;)
Excellent observation could not have said it better!!!!!(y)(y)(y)

[Diane]

Right on again Matt!(y)(y)(y)

Diane

[Raised on Rock]

In order to introduce Elvis to a new generation, older fans as well as EPE/Sillerman/BMG do have to distinguish:

A. Is Elvis a musician/performer? or B. a tourist Mickey Mouse like themed attraction.

A. Is about to present and preserve Elvis music as a form of art (Elvis music as part of the heritage of American music? B. or is about quick money making.

A. Is about to present Elvis life and character as the life and work of an american musician/performer? or B. is about gossip, circus and cheap mass entertainment.

I believe introducing Elvis to any generation is about the above A letters, and I am an optimist about that. Although I do know things tend to go B.

[kathy parkinson]

when l become a fan there wasn't any technologies like we have today and for me the sound of elvis voice touched me like no other singer could and the stories that l have read about him made me like him awhole lot more cause he wasn't just a famous person but someone like me and you and wasn't afaid to show his true colours. So back to my point is that we don't need messing around with his music and ETA's and all the updated technologies to enjoy elvis and if some do than they really had experinced the true elvis presley and the man he stood for..Just my opinion.

Absolutely 100% spot on, we didn't have all these new gadgets back in the old days:lmfao: Elvis just being Elvis was enough, three guys, three instruments, the boy did good.:notworthy

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

From some of the replies on this thread it goes to show there's a lot of pessimism in the Elvis community and no creativity in the imagination or vision. :(


Perhaps it depends on outlook with regard to pessimism, a positive person sees pessimism more than a pessimist? :blink::blink::blink::lmfao:

Ha ha, I see what you are saying, however would an optimist have responded in a pessimistic way?? :D:lol::P:lmfao:

[Merry]

Ha ha, I see what you are saying, however would an optimist have responded in a pessimistic way?? :D:lol::P:lmfao:


Who said I was pessimistic? :lmfao:

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[TLC67]

I recruited a new fan yesterday. My daughter and I went to Graceland and she brought a friend that knew very little about Elvis. By the end of the tour and watching TTWII at Heartbreak Hotel, she was hooked. Now hopefully she will keep it going and I will certainly be looking for another recruit!
p.s. Will be posting new pics in a day or two.