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cibetty
10-28-2008, 02:09 PM
I've just found this on YouTube and it amazed me.... Honestly I was shocked. Unbelievable. What do you think about it? I'm curious. ***Betti***
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ehollier
10-28-2008, 02:12 PM
It looks like a cross between The Polar Express and TTWII.....is this the only video like this???
cibetty
10-28-2008, 02:24 PM
It looks like a cross between The Polar Express and TTWII.....is this the only video like this???
Yes, this user has only one video yet. He/she (I think a male anyways) is a 3D animator and this was a personal project, so this one minute took 2 years of blood, sweat and tears (as he/she wrote on YT). :) :) The name of the software is "Lightwave Animation Software".
Laura Harrell
10-28-2008, 02:30 PM
That's pretty cool! It's really realistic!
Diane
10-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Strange but interesting....think I like the real thing much better though. I find these things a little creepy.
Diane
CRITTERGITTER
10-28-2008, 03:29 PM
I think it's great. Better than some of the other stuff I've seen.
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 03:43 PM
This is neat but it's also old. It was posted throughtout the Elvis world as far back as early this year.
It would be cool to see them do a completely new 2008 fantasized concert like this using songs he never did live. Songs like Marie's The Name, Shake Rattle And Roll, King Creole, and Always On My Mind.
presley31
10-28-2008, 03:46 PM
This is neat but it's also old. It was posted throughtout the Elvis world as far back as early this year.
It may be old news to you but there are members on here that are new fans and haven't seen half the stuff that has been posted or called old news.
Thanks for posting the clip. interesting.
Dovey
10-28-2008, 03:50 PM
I never saw it before and to be honest he has a fantastic voice and looks great. Dovey :D
utmom2008
10-28-2008, 04:03 PM
It may be old news to you but there are members on here that are new fans and haven't seen half the stuff that has been posted or called old news.
Good point Jen!(y)(y) No reason to be rude to Betti for posting it!
cibetty
10-28-2008, 04:12 PM
Strange but interesting....think I like the real thing much better though. I find these things a little creepy.
Diane
Yes, you're right, the real thing was a live thing and it is much better than any animation.
This is neat but it's also old. It was posted throughtout the Elvis world as far back as early this year.
It would be cool to see them do a completely new 2008 fantasized concert like this using songs he never did live. Songs lile Marie's The Name, Shake Rattle And Roll, King Creole, and Always On My Mind.
Yes, I know it really was an older clip, but I thought some of the fans have not seen it yet. That's why I shared it. It was new to me anyways. Yes, unfortunately Elvis did not sing many of his songs live, it would be great to see him performing them.
I think it's great. Better than some of the other stuff I've seen.
I agree!! I saw some really horrible 3D animations about him, but this one somehow caught me. I think this is really the best one.
utmom2008
10-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Yes, I know it really was an older clip, but I thought some of the fans have not seen it yet. That's why I shared it. It was new to me anyways. Yes, unfortunately Elvis did not sing many of his songs live, it would be great to see him performing them.
Thank you Betti!(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Diane
10-28-2008, 04:17 PM
I agree, it's not a bad animation, in fact it was very well done. It's just my personal feelings about certain things. I find puppets and clowns etc. creepy. It was a good thing to post Betti for people who aren't like me and can enjoy this kind of thing.
Diane
utmom2008
10-28-2008, 04:19 PM
I agree, it's not a bad animation, in fact it was very well done. It's just my personal feelings about certain things. I find puppets and clowns etc. creepy. It was a good thing to post Betti for people who aren't like me and can enjoy this kind of thing.
Diane
I agree with you Diane. I am still terrified of clowns, wax figures and ventriloquist puppets.
MojoElvis
10-28-2008, 04:21 PM
they should use this animation instead of a lot of them people they picked to play Elvis in them movies...lol
like Jonathan Rhys Meyers is an awesome actor but just did not have any of the stage movements down.
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 04:56 PM
I agree with you Diane. I am still terrified of clowns, wax figures and ventriloquist puppets. You're not lying. I remember as a child visiting the Wax Museum in Gatlinburg that the figures looked so real and life-like as if they could turn and ask "what are you looking at?". They are freaky looking up close especially when seeing them alone and all by yourself as a kid.
Speaking of wax figures, I have yet to see one that looks exactly like Elvis.
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 05:01 PM
they should use this animation instead of a lot of them people they picked to play Elvis in them movies...lol
like Jonathan Rhys Meyers is an awesome actor but just did not have any of the stage movements down.
Great idea and with the technology that's available today I think we'll see an animated Elvis sooner than we think.
cibetty
10-28-2008, 05:13 PM
I agree, it's not a bad animation, in fact it was very well done. It's just my personal feelings about certain things. I find puppets and clowns etc. creepy. It was a good thing to post Betti for people who aren't like me and can enjoy this kind of thing.
Diane
I really like you. :) :) You're right, as I told, the live thing is much better than any animation and it is irreplaceable (I hope this is the right English word... :P :P). It just amazed me that someone worked for two years for only one minute. And I wondered what Elvis would think about these things? Anyways I'm not so keen on 3D computer animation either, although sometimes it amazes me. For example, I usually don't like the cartoons nowadays, which was made only with computer animation.
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 05:21 PM
I really like you. :) :) You're right, as I told, the live thing is much better than any animation and it is irreplaceable (I hope this is the right English word... :P :P). It just amazed me that someone worked for two years for only one minute. And I wondered what Elvis would think about these things? Anyways I'm not so keen on 3D computer animation either, although sometimes it amazes me. For example, I usually don't like the cartoons nowadays, which was made only with computer animation. Elvis loved modern day explosions and new inventions so I'm quite sure he would have loved this.(y)
Btw I didn't mean to sound rude to your original post, but if I did, my apologies.:notworthy
elvisfan92
10-28-2008, 05:23 PM
freaking awesome loved it
cibetty
10-28-2008, 05:24 PM
Good point Jen!(y)(y) No reason to be rude to Betti for posting it!
Thanks Rosanne, you're very kind. :) :) Your words always mean a lot to me, I hope you know that. Yes, there always can be new fans here who will discover the "old" things as "brand-new" things and I think this is a wonderful thing on this site.
cibetty
10-28-2008, 05:32 PM
Elvis loved modern day explosions and new inventions so I'm quite sure he would have loved this.(y)
Btw I didn't mean to sound rude to your original post, but if I did, my apologies.:notworthy
No, I didn't find it rude at all... :) :) Don't worry, it is not so easy to hurt me, I am not offended at something so easily, but be careful... :P :P
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 05:34 PM
No, I didn't find it rude at all... :) :) Don't worry, it is not so easy to hurt me, I am not offended at something so easily, but be careful... :P :P OK, good to know.;)
Diane
10-28-2008, 06:03 PM
It's all a matter of personal taste. It's wonderful that they can do this but it still freaks me out to see animated figures talking like they're real people but I don't feel the same about cartoons??? I guess it's because of the 3D images.
I do have to agree with MojoElvis that an animation of this kind would be far superior to the actors they've had to portray Elvis thus far....except for Kurt Russell, I did like his movie. The others had me practically screaming "you don't know Elvis, you have no idea what he was all about - you're making a mockery out of him".
Diane
There is a movie called "Scanner Darkly" which was filmed first and then it was run through a computer program to get that animated look. I wonder if this is the case in this clip, since the movements are identical to Elvis in TTWII. If that is the case, then they could not produce new footage only work over old footage to give it an animated look.
A Scanner Darkly is a 2006 film directed by Richard Linklater based on the novel of the same name by Philip K. Dick. The film tells the story of identity and deception in a near-future dystopia constantly monitored by intensive high-technology police surveillance in the midst of a drug addiction epidemic. To give the film its distinct look, the movie was filmed digitally and then animated using interpolated rotoscope over the original footage.
After principal photography was finished, the film was transferred to Quicktime for a 15-month animation process: interpolated-rotoscoping. A Scanner Darkly was filmed digitally using the Panasonic AG-DVX100 and then animated with Rotoshop, a proprietary graphics editing program created by Bob Sabiston. Rotoshop uses an animation technique called interpolated rotoscope, which was previously used in Linklater's film Waking Life. Linklater discussed the ideas and inspiration behind his use of rotoscoping in a UK documentary about him in 2004, linking it to his personal experiences of lucid dreaming. Rotoscoping in traditional cel animation originally involved tracing over film frame-by-frame. This is similar in some respects to the rotoscope style of filmmaker Ralph Bakshi. Rotoshop animation, however, makes use of vector keyframes, and interpolates the in-between frames automatically.[4]
The animation phase was a trying process for Linklater who said, "I know how to make a movie, but I don't really know how to handle the animation."[1] He had gone the animation route because he felt that there was very little animation targeted for adults.[1] Each minute of animation required 500 hours of work with 50 animators working full-time every day.[6]
Diane
10-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Thanks for the information KPM. A lot of time and work goes into these animations and I imagine the costs are pretty high too.
Diane
Thanks for the information KPM. A lot of time and work goes into these animations and I imagine the costs are pretty high too.
Diane
I actually remembered the film but could not think of the title-my daughter gave that to me so I could look up how it was done.
I watched a little of it late one sleepless night and it was weird to watch because it looked so real- yet not real.
Diane
10-28-2008, 06:26 PM
I think that's what scares me. I don't want one coming to life. But truth be told, I think I would like to see a good film done with the animation to see if I'd feel different.
Diane
Unchained Melody
10-28-2008, 06:26 PM
freaking awesome loved it
Hey, maybe if EPE don't ever release the CBS Special we could get it in 3D :D:D:lmfao:
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 06:30 PM
There is a movie called "Scanner Darkly" which was filmed first and then it was run through a computer program to get that animated look. I wonder if this is the case in this clip, since the movements are identical to Elvis in TTWII. If that is the case, then they could not produce new footage only work over old footage to give it an animated look.
A Scanner Darkly is a 2006 film directed by Richard Linklater based on the novel of the same name by Philip K. Dick. The film tells the story of identity and deception in a near-future dystopia constantly monitored by intensive high-technology police surveillance in the midst of a drug addiction epidemic. To give the film its distinct look, the movie was filmed digitally and then animated using interpolated rotoscope over the original footage.
After principal photography was finished, the film was transferred to Quicktime for a 15-month animation process: interpolated-rotoscoping. A Scanner Darkly was filmed digitally using the Panasonic AG-DVX100 and then animated with Rotoshop, a proprietary graphics editing program created by Bob Sabiston. Rotoshop uses an animation technique called interpolated rotoscope, which was previously used in Linklater's film Waking Life. Linklater discussed the ideas and inspiration behind his use of rotoscoping in a UK documentary about him in 2004, linking it to his personal experiences of lucid dreaming. Rotoscoping in traditional cel animation originally involved tracing over film frame-by-frame. This is similar in some respects to the rotoscope style of filmmaker Ralph Bakshi. Rotoshop animation, however, makes use of vector keyframes, and interpolates the in-between frames automatically.[4]
The animation phase was a trying process for Linklater who said, "I know how to make a movie, but I don't really know how to handle the animation."[1] He had gone the animation route because he felt that there was very little animation targeted for adults.[1] Each minute of animation required 500 hours of work with 50 animators working full-time every day.[6]
Actually they can do this without using a living Elvis. They can do an animation creation and then transform into 3D as many Disney movies are done today such as the latest Bolt. They can create an animated Elvis moving, interacting and singing new songs.
What if we could see an animated 3D Elvis singing Big Boss Man or Burning Love in his 1970 prime?(y)
The potential with a 3D Elvis is unlimited.
john carpenter
10-28-2008, 06:35 PM
IMO i really thought it was done well i give 3(y)(y)(y)and a:clap:
Actually they can do this without using a living Elvis. They can do an animation creation and then transform into 3D as many Disney movies are done today such as the latest Bolt. They can create an animated Elvis moving, interacting and singing new songs.
What if we could see an animated 3D Elvis singing Big Boss Man or Burning Love in his 1970 prime?(y)
The potential with a 3D Elvis is unlimited.
Is "animation creation" a term I can look up for a definition? Or is it just a generic term?
I would love to see it, have they actually done this with a deceased person?
I mean yes they have animated charcters which look realistic-and done the
3D program in a computer to make them more real -but have they actually taken a real deceased person who is well known and then animated totally a clip? I would imagine to animate to say "Big Boss Man" not only would they have to animate the person but they would have to animate to sinc with the song-sounds very costly.
For instance in the newest Superman Returns movie-the animated flying sequences were obviously computer generated (at least to me) There were very few closeups of Supermans face as he flew and did his superhuman deeds but when you did catch his face it was fleeting.
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 07:09 PM
Is "animation creation" a term I can look up for a definition? Or is it just a generic term?
I would love to see it, have they actually done this with a deceased person?
I mean yes they have animated charcters which look realistic-and done the
3D program in a computer to make them more real -but have they actually taken a real deceased person who is well known and then animated totally a clip? I would imagine to animate to say "Big Boss Man" not only would they have to animate the person but they would have to animate to sinc with the song-sounds very costly.
For instance in the newest Superman Returns movie-the animated flying sequences were obviously computer generated (at least to me) There were very few closeups of Supermans face as he flew and did his superhuman deeds but when you did catch his face it was fleeting.
You would be overwhelmingly surprised at what all they can do nowadays. If they can take a computerized dog and make him talk with moving lips and dance to music then imagine what they can do with a computerized 3D Elvis Presley.
MojoElvis
10-28-2008, 07:12 PM
Great idea and with the technology that's available today I think we'll see an animated Elvis sooner than we think.
for some reason I feel that EPE/Graceland doesn't like to venture out that far.
ehollier
10-28-2008, 07:16 PM
You would be overwhelmingly surprised at what all they can do nowadays. If they can take a computerized dog and make him talk with moving lips and dance to music then imagine what they can do with a computerized 3D Elvis Presley.
Lets not give some of the more 'open-minded' fans any ideas....
You would be overwhelmingly surprised at what all they can do nowadays. If they can take a computerized dog and make him talk with moving lips and dance to music then imagine what they can do with a computerized 3D Elvis Presley.
Oh I am not surprised-I try and keep up with new technology.
But I also know how time consuming and costly this stuff is.
If they will not completely clean up outtakes for TTWII and EOT and the studio owns this existing footage, I just do not see how anyone will spend multimillions and 15months time, as was done in Scanner Darkly which just overlapped over filmed footage, for a completely new video.
I have read a few years back that a computer program was being worked on to recreate dead celebrities in voice and look-but it was years away from perfection. But the most important factor in this idea is how much would it cost and is it financially worth it? As long as these things are so costly to do, the chance of a new concert with Elvis singing new songs is a long way off. IMO Plus fans are very mixed on these type things-some may want to see it-others are totally opposed so that adds to the equation. I
Unchained Melody
10-28-2008, 08:03 PM
I agree it does look very realistic but seriously whats the point when we have the real thing to watch...:doh:
franny
10-28-2008, 08:32 PM
I agree with you Diane. I am still terrified of clowns, wax figures and ventriloquist puppets.
Same here! Also, I'm terrified of the Elvis head, which btw doesn't even look like Elvis :blink:
Thanks, for sharing the clip Betti! (y)
franny
SatninLove
10-28-2008, 08:39 PM
huh..i'm speechless lol.
not as good as the real thing..lol.but it seems okay..although,i'm not attracted as much to this 3d thing.lol.
but why this when there is footage of the real thing.lol.
-SatninLove
Elvislives72
10-28-2008, 09:05 PM
Oh I am not surprised-I try and keep up with new technology.
But I also know how time consuming and costly this stuff is.
If they will not completely clean up outtakes for TTWII and EOT and the studio owns this existing footage, I just do not see how anyone will spend multimillions and 15months time, as was done in Scanner Darkly which just overlapped over filmed footage, for a completely new video.
I have read a few years back that a computer program was being worked on to recreate dead celebrities in voice and look-but it was years away from perfection. But the most important factor in this idea is how much would it cost and is it financially worth it? As long as these things are so costly to do, the chance of a new concert with Elvis singing new songs is a long way off. IMO Plus fans are very mixed on these type things-some may want to see it-others are totally opposed so that adds to the equation. I Um, wasn't that what Sillerman said will be at Graceland and Vegas, was a virtual 4D Elvis experience where it's like he's still with us and interacts with the visitors?
MojoElvis
10-28-2008, 09:26 PM
Um, wasn't that what Sillerman said will be at Graceland and Vegas, was a virtual 4D Elvis experience where it's like he's still with us and interacts with the visitors?
that would be cool but I think this was posted to show us how good it looks.
Whoever did it, did an awesome job and thanks for posting it.
Wendy56
10-29-2008, 07:35 PM
I saw this while ago and loved it. (y)
Um, wasn't that what Sillerman said will be at Graceland and Vegas, was a virtual 4D Elvis experience where it's like he's still with us and interacts with the visitors?
Yes-but since he did not spell out what that meant it leaves the question open to interpretation, and perhaps hype.
When I heard he said this-I was thinking along the lines of some type of a hologram which would be viewed on all sides.
Whether thats what he meant-and since no other info has come forward I can only guess what he is referring to.
I can only go by what I read-which at times may say something-yet not go into real details of the how or when of that subject.
beckelvis
10-30-2008, 03:12 PM
It not to have seen before seems to me to be curious,but is very subrrealista,I´m sorry:'(but you have done a good work
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