The female voice in 68 Comeback recording session: Darlene Love or Jean King

[javierTCB]

Hi everybody. I´m a new member in this site. Please, I need information about a female voice in '68 Comeback recording sessions.

1.- The female voice in "Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child" is Darlene Love or Jean King?. Keith Flynn write in his web about this, and he said: Darlene Love.

2.- Darlene Love sings in "Let Yourself Go" section, but his voice is not the same in "Sometimes I feel..."

After listen those tracks I´m still with the question: Is Love or King? What thinking about you. Please, send me information or your opinion.

Thanks!
JavierTCB

[Getlo]

Both tracks were performed by Darlene Love, according to all session sources. But if anyone has any other info, please post it.

By the way, Darlene Love is a woman. She was part of The Blossoms. She's still singing and acting. She played Danny Glover's wife in Lethal Weapon too.

[javierTCB]

Darlene Love: Are you sure?
What is your source?
Vegas King tell was Jean King (like Darlene Love too of Blossoms girls)

[ehollier]

Darlene Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlene_Love) covered part of it for the first part of the Gospel Medley in the Elvis Presley's '68 Comeback Special (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley%27s_%2768_Comeback_Special) (1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968))


Source: Wikipedia

[Getlo]

Darlene Love: Are you sure?
What is your source?
Vegas King tell was Jean King (like Darlene Love too of Blossoms girls)

Keith Flynn's impeccable site among others.

[javierTCB]

It´s true Getlo: Keith Flynn is impeccable, but his sources many times are official from EPE.
Some members of this forum writes me: "Maybe is Jean King...but I not sure". Who´s got the last word?

[Getlo]

It´s true Getlo: Keith Flynn is impeccable, but his sources many times are official from EPE.

Keith goes further than EPE. They wouldn't have the faintest idea who sang what or where.

[Erhan]

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:jgGUaAIYR7AJ:www.rhapsody.com/elvispresley/memoriesthe68comebackspecial+%22elvis+presley%22+% 22Darlene+Love%22+%22comeback+special%22&hl=tr&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=tr

[javierTCB]

Friends, this is dialogue is only to caught the true.
I always knew about Darlene on "SIFLAMC", but after hear this and "LYSG" I´m not sure.
I don´t want bother. If somebody have any exactly information, please send it.
Erhan, I listened again and think is other voice. Maybe Darlene´s singing in other vocal key.

[javierTCB]

If Darlene sings in "SIFLAMC"....who´s sing in "Let yourself Go"?

[javierTCB]

Any got a new information.

[ehollier]

The only information that I was able to find said that The Blossoms were background vocals on Let Yourself Go. This would lead me to believe that all 3 singers were on background for this song. This information is from Ernst Jorgensen and his book entitled Elvis Presley: A Life in Music. The Complete Recording Sessions.

[javierTCB]

Thanks Ehollier. I got the first edition of this book from july 1998. Is very exactly, but the information today is not up date (10 years ago).

Do you have "Elvis Sessions III" from Tunzi? Maybe can we got someting new.

[ehollier]

I am not sure why you feel that this information is no longer accurate. I consider Ernst Jorgensen an authority on Elvis' recordings and do not question his information or knowledge. Looking for another book that contradicts him just opens yourself to Pandora's Box. Elvis has enough rumors and stories surrounding his life. I feel that we do not have to start questioning those experts about his life and career about what we have that is factual.

[javierTCB]

Ernst is an autorithy, but exist permanent errors of data items inside of FTD records.
Maybe the original data from RCA is not exactly. For example: between Jorgensen and Tunzi the information is different, but the source is the same. Maybe is matter of criterion. Who knows? But I think Jorgensen are very good is his works.

About Pandora Box. I don´t know. Who Knows?

I was looking in wikipedia and other sources (books of Tunzi, Jorgensen and Guralnick) and many webs. Until see an wonderful australian site, in this web writes:Jean King, and not Darlene Love (without source).

I know is not important this topic. Is only a question.

[Getlo]

I considerErnst Jorgensen an authority on Elvis' recordings and do not question his information or knowledge.

That's your first problem right there.

Even as Ernst's books hit the shelves, there are usually a couple of errors in them.

And you should always question experts and those who profess to be such.

[KPM]

I am not sure why you feel that this information is no longer accurate. I consider Ernst Jorgensen an authority on Elvis' recordings and do not question his information or knowledge. Looking for another book that contradicts him just opens yourself to Pandora's Box. Elvis has enough rumors and stories surrounding his life. I feel that we do not have to start questioning those experts about his life and career about what we have that is factual.
I have yet to see a book of any kind on any subject music,history, science etc...which do not end up with an error or 2. Sometimes they are just minor points, sometimes major mistakes. But I would consider someone who had the job of tracking down, researching and cataloging Elvis's recordings a
very knowledgeable expert indeed.
He is the one inside the RCA vaults and he is the one looking directly at the session information which exists in their files. (as sketchy as it much of the information is at times)
Look on the internet-you can ask a question and literally come up with hundreds of answers.
I think Ernst does a pretty good job, and has worked hard to get it as right as he perceives it at the time.

[ehollier]

That's your first problem right there.

Even as Ernst's books hit the shelves, there are usually a couple of errors in them.

And you should always question experts and those who profess to be such.

Maybe you misunderstood my post. Since Ernst had unlimited access to RCA's vaults and was meticulous in sorting out the recording material and putting it in some sort of historical context, far be from me to question his knowledge on any recording questions that may come up. I never said that he didn't make some mistakes, but I do not know of any credible information that would contradict him insofar as the recordings at question are concerned. The only person that I would consider ‘credible’ in this case would be Felton Jarvis (now deceased) or Darlene Love.

[Getlo]

Since Ernst had unlimited access to RCA's vaults and was meticulous in sorting out the recording material and putting it in some sort of historical context, far be from me to question his knowledge on any recording questions that may come up.

Yes, and he occasionally still managed to stuff up.

See www.keithflynn.com for the definitive version of Elvis' recording sessions.

[KPM]

I am curious where people such as Keith Flynn get there info? Since Ernst is actually dealing with the actual recordings, the actual logs, and production sheets, marketing info etc....where do other individuals get information which contradicts what someone like Ernst ( whos on the inside as far as you can get) finds? Theres no denying though that every source will occasionaly be wrong-even from the inside.
But if I had to put money on a source-I would probably take the inside source (even when a mistake comes now and then) over someone on the outside who is looking in. But everyone makes errors.

[javierTCB]

Dear Friends:
Anybody have, between the treasure collection, the new Tunzi "68 at 40"?
I like to know if said something about my questions. I don´t have this book, but many fans tells me is very complet and up date.

I started this discussion too in “Elvis Collectors Forum”, please check this

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=40970

I´m not sure (now) who´s sing “Let Yourself Go” female section.

[javierTCB]

I found the answer about my question. See this at bottom of the page:

http://www.keithflynn.com/recording-ses ... s60s03.htm

"During the 'Gospel Medley' - Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child was performed by Darlene Love (Incorrectly listed as Jean King in 'Sessions III'), and Yes Yes Yes (Bridge between songs) was performed by 'The Blossoms'.

TUNZI´S GUILTY!!!!!

[KPM]

I found the answer about my question. See this at bottom of the page:

http://www.keithflynn.com/recording-ses ... s60s03.htm

"During the 'Gospel Medley' - Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child was performed by Darlene Love (Incorrectly listed as Jean King in 'Sessions III'), and Yes Yes Yes (Bridge between songs) was performed by 'The Blossoms'.

TUNZI´S GUILTY!!!!!
To me this is one of those questions which I ask myself-who is right.
Neither Tunzi nor Flynn was there and each has come to a different conclusion? I mean no disrespect to either man-but they both had a primary source for their conclusion and surely they have more than one source to actually put it into print (at least thats what we were taught in journalism)
It has always amazed me that so many very credible people can have conflicting answers. As I said earlier mistakes happen to all who put things in print its just hard knowing who is incorrect on questions over 40 years old.