DNA proves Elvis is still alive!?!?

[Elvislives72]

I know this sounds like another "here we go aagain" story, but according to a judge, Elvis is still alive and has a half sister and they now claim to have DNA to prove it. I don't think he's still alive but you never know. It is still slightly possible. And they say DNA samples don't lie so I guess we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out.

Watch it for yourselves and then make an open minded decision. After seeing this I really don't know what to believe anymore. Either it's the biggest scam in pop culture hisotiry or the King lives, literally.:supriced:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7605808&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[1100ccRider]

Not at all likely, but still undeniably within the realm of possibility. I sure wish he was still alive though, as much as I'd love to see him step on to a stage again or make new music, if he were alive I think I'd just as soon he remains anonymously secure in whatever life he'd carved out post-1977 rather than return to the spotlight (although, on the other hand, many things have fundamentally changed in the way music and live concerts are done since then and maybe by now he'd be able to better handle the demands of being Elvis Presley).

[Lindagtz]

WOOOW!!...I'm speechless...

[ForeverTheKing]

I don' believe Elvis is stll alive :P about the fact she claims to be Vernon's daughter...who knows :hmm:

[Vegas King]

I can't wait to see how will this turn out.
I really don't know what to say????????

[Getlo]

I don't think he's still alive but you never know. It is still slightly possible.

We do know.

It is impossible.

He's dead.

[buttonhead]

it is strange, BUT Elvis has been gone for 31 years , I do wish he still alive... THAT would be awesome (y)


:blink:

And...

If it had been on Judge Judy,..she would definitely say :

" This case is dismiss,... you all have a wonderful life and move on "...

;)

[ehollier]

HUH??? I wonder what he's been doing for the last 31 years???? :lol::lol::lol:

[Tony Trout]

I know this sounds like another "here we go aagain" story, but according to a judge, Elvis is still alive and has a half sister and they now claim to have DNA to prove it. I don't think he's still alive but you never know. It is still slightly possible. And they say DNA samples don't lie so I guess we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out.

Watch it for yourselves and then make an open minded decision. After seeing this I really don't know what to believe anymore. Either it's the biggest scam in pop culture hisotiry or the King lives, literally.:supriced:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7605808&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Alice Tiffin is a delusional nutcase.

Her own mother has even come forward and said that her own daughter is living in a dream world and that she (Alice's mother) never even touched Elvis.

As far as DNA evidence? Um, if I'm not mistaken there's never been any instance whatsoever (at least to my knowledge as a fan) of any DNA taken from Elvis during his lifetime - and it'd be really hard to take it from him now.




We do know.

It is impossible.

He's dead.


Bingo, Getlo. I wish all the stuff 'bout Elvis being alive would stop. It's one thing that makes us fans get looked down on negatively.

[presley31]

This is coming from a woman who thought elvis and than vernon was her dad and now she saying elvis is alive, all l can do is roll my eyes.

[kathy parkinson]

Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

[Elvislives72]

Alice Tiffin is a delusional nutcase.

Her own mother has even come forward and said that her own daughter is living in a dream world and that she (Alice's mother) never even touched Elvis.

As far as DNA evidence? Um, if I'm not mistaken there's never been any instance whatsoever (at least to my knowledge as a fan) of any DNA taken from Elvis during his lifetime - and it'd be really hard to take it from him now.






Bingo, Getlo. I wish all the stuff 'bout Elvis being alive would stop. It's one thing that makes us fans get looked down on negatively.

For what it's worth they do have hair locks, and blood samples taken from Elvis while he was alive and during his autopsy that have been used before in DNA cases to prove that he's not related to other claims. If I were the judge, I would demand that she bring Mr Jessie AKA Elvis Presley into a courtroom, take a blood test and match the DNA with the evidence and see if it is indeed a perfect match. Then the world would know both secrets at once.(y)

[1100ccRider]

We do know.

It is impossible.

He's dead.

You don't and can't know that for sure. A great many people with far fewer resources and connections than Elvis Presley have convincingly faked their deaths...how many, we may never know, because we only hear about the ones who end up blowing the whole thing, though some of those managed to disappear for years or even decades. Many odd things happened to and around Elvis during his life, and him faking his death is not only not beyond the realm of possibility but would probably be considerably less weird than some things that did actually occur around him (and, no, I don't mean the fact he almost got to act alongside talking camels). Do I think he did it? No. But it is possible, and to state with absolute certainty that it is not is a logical fallacy.

I'm basically playing Devil's Advocate here. It'd be kind of pointless to do so, however, unless there was circumstantial evidence to back the alternative position and there most definitely is. Whether that evidence stands up or not is another story, and in this case where there is smoke there may very well be no fire of any kind, but still...there're some questions surrounding Elvis' death and, as with Andy Kaufman, Jim Morrison, and others, this leads naturally to dramatic conclusions being advanced. The bottom line is that you and I do not and cannot know for sure that Elvis Presley died in 1977 (here, of course, I assume that you did not kill him, face-to-face, some time after his faked death, in which case you'd most definitely know for sure that he is dead and, not coincidentally, have a little explaining to do in this forum) but it is a reasonable certainty that he did die then. Wishing he hadn't is a whole other thing, and perfectly understandable (I sure wish he'd survived the '70s).

[MojoElvis]

It could be just another hoax to bring Elvis' name back in the media. Graceland's ticket sales might have been low the past Elvis week. Or if it's true, that could have been one of the secrets the Colonel had on Elvis to get him to do what he wanted him to do.

[beckelvis]

the truth,I don´t belive,sounds to extracting money,and that better that to say to be"the sister" of ELVIS,seems to me shameful,but it´s necessary to wait(n)

[Diane]

It is absolutely impossible for a secret this big to be kept for over 30 years. Someone somewhere would have leaked it out long before now.

Diane

[john carpenter]

Let me get this straight...Elvis licked an envelope on a letter sent to this nutty Woman claiming to be his half sister? And they extracted DNA from that sample? We may be all shook up by the news one day, that he has been in hiding all these years! I know the feedback i'm gonna get for even saying this..but, with Elvis anything is possible! And as previous post state others have faked their deaths and got caught! And they weren,t as connected to the Government like Elvis as far as his DEA badge is concerned!:'(:hmm:

[rocknroll]

Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

Elvis faked his death that day.......then died in 1982.:supriced:

[meg]

Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

You´r right(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Tony Trout]

You don't and can't know that for sure.


1). Elvis wouldn't have put his own family through the pain of having them assume that he'd faked his death.

2). Elvis loved his fans too much to fake his death.


Why are those two reasons (and other evidence) so hard to understand?

Threads like this (as I've said many times before) just seem to cause arguments and fights and it's pointless even discussing it.

[utmom2008]

We do know.

It is impossible.

He's dead.

AMEN!


Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

DOUBLE AMEN!!

[Stutz Blackhawk]

There is NO WAY that he is alive given his physical condition and health problems.
plus, the man has got to be the most recognizable person in history and had to hide from the world at Graceland just to get some privacy,,,,how could he possible go un-detected for all these years?????

[KPM]

Elvis is dead. His memory and his acclaim go on-but he is physically dead.

[utmom2008]

If he faked his death the 1st time I feel certain that he died on May 26, 1994, when he heard the news that Lisa had married Michael Jackson.:lol::lol::lol:

[Elvislives72]

None of us will ever know the truth unless an opeining of the grave is done and the remains are exhumed but that will never happen in our lifetime or as long as lisa's still alive and Sillerman's in control. So no, we don't know what exactly went on on 8-16-77.

[Vegas King]

Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

I Can't Agree on that one.
If the man wants to discus this,let him do it.
This is the world's biggest secret And We (elvis fans) should talk and discus it

[utmom2008]

None of us will ever know the truth unless an opeining of the grave is done and the remains are exhumed but that will never happen in our lifetime or as long as lisa's still alive and Sillerman's in control. So no, we don't know what exactly went on on 8-16-77.

To each his own, but I feel quite sure in my belief of what happened on 08/16/1977. God rest his soul.:blush:

[kathy parkinson]

To each his own, but I feel quite sure in my belief of what happened on 08/16/1977. God rest his soul.:blush:

Agree with you all the way Roseanne.(y)(y)(y)

[MissyM]

One more time, I talked with family that day. There words and the sound of their voices were not those of people in some conspiracy. Some things you just can't fake. As for Lois saying he did not die, take it with a grain of salt. She gets confused at times.

[franny]

If he faked his death the 1st time I feel certain that he died on May 26, 1994, when he heard the news that Lisa had married Michael Jackson.:lol::lol::lol:

:lol: :lol: (y) (y) No doubt Elvis would not have liked it...

I really think that marriage was fake, I mean they got married, but I feel it was done for other reasons'.

I hope if she had the twins already, that they are healthy and happy!! (y)

franny

[nash]

I agree with you,Tony! Absolutely!

[nash]

I agree with you,Tony! Absolutely![/QUOTE]

[Danny Ocean]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

[kathy parkinson]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:: lmfao:lmfao:::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

Oh good grief.:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink:

Elvis is "frozen in" what? Where? :blink::blink::blink:

[utmom2008]

:lol: :lol: (y) (y) No doubt Elvis would not have liked it...

I really think that marriage was fake, I mean they got married, but I feel it was done for other reasons'.

I hope if she had the twins already, that they are healthy and happy!! (y)

franny

I agree with you on all counts Franny!(y)(y)(y)

[MissyM]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

Now I've heard it all!:'(

[Diane]

I thought I had too Missy but watch out, someone will think of yet another ridiculous story about what really happened with Elvis on the day of his death.:lol:

Diane

[Elvislives72]

To each his own, but I feel quite sure in my belief of what happened on 08/16/1977. God rest his soul.:blush: Unless you or someone here were in the ER at Baptist memorial the exact time that Dr Nick confirmed it and Dr Smith wrote it down then all you're doing is assuming and speculating what you believe to be true. That's why I said none of us know what really happened that night and we never will. There's no way around it either.

[utmom2008]

Unless you or someone here were in the ER at Baptist memorial the exact time that Dr Nick confirmed it and Dr Smith wrote it down then all you're doing is assuming and speculating what you believe to be true. That's why I said none of us know what really happened that night and we never will. There's no way around it either.


To each his own, but I feel quite sure in my belief of what happened on 08/16/1977. God rest his soul.:blush:

Again....I will stand by my beliefs and my opinions.;);)

[utmom2008]

I thought I had too Missy but watch out, someone will think of yet another ridiculous story about what really happened with Elvis on the day of his death.:lol:

Diane

As soon as Andrew gets out of Law School we can all be his first case. He can represent us in our fraud suit that we can bring against the estate!;):lol:(y)(y)

[ph10579]

You don't need dna to prove that Elvis is still alive. His memory,music,movies etc. Are still very much alive and doing well! He may be gone, but he sure won't be forgotten anytime soon!

[Elvislives72]

Again....I will stand by my beliefs and my opinions.;);) So then you're saying that you were there that night?

[utmom2008]

So then you're saying that you were there that night?

Maybe I was.;) maybe I'll spin my own story...it wouldn't sound any more ridiculous than some of these other "ideas".:lol::lol:

[utmom2008]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

And we wonder why Elvis fans are made fun of......:blink::blink:

BTW...JFK is really dead. My brother happened to see him get his head blown away.

[Danny Ocean]

They compared the DNA results from that woman with the files and documents from Elvis' DNA that where made in the 70's for the Paternity Suit.

[Danny Ocean]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Ocean View Post
Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.
And we wonder why Elvis fans are made fun of......

BTW...JFK is really dead. My brother happened to see him get his head blown away.

Elvis and John are dead yes.. but there body's are frozen in to keep them intact.

[presley31]

Elvis is gone..time to move on.

[midnight]

I can`t believe this Elvis is alive business still going on.Why on earth would he want to live his life hiding away from the rest of the world! What point is that? You fake your death to get away from all the fame and then spend the rest of your life hiding away from the rest of society!! Don`t sound like a very stress free life to me!! Please Elvis died in 1977. Can`t we just give the man the peace and dignity he deserves!

[mozzarella]

Let me take the opportunity to tell you the conclusion of my research in the case: John F. Kennedy committed suicide...

[waymore44]

Well, there's got to be enough evidence for a judge to open the estate. There's no doubt about that. Where' did she get EP's DNA is the question?

[utmom2008]

Elvis and John are dead yes.. but there body's are frozen in to keep them intact.

NzlG28B-R8Y

[utmom2008]

Please Elvis died in 1977. Can`t we just give the man the peace and dignity he deserves!

No...we can't! We have to keep the "Elvis fans are strange" conspiracy going!:lol::lol::lol:

[presley31]

Well, there's got to be enough evidence for a judge to open the estate. There's no doubt about that. Where' did she get EP's DNA is the question?

kinda strange for a judge to full for this nonsense.

[elvisfan92]

ok she is elvis's half sister does not meen she will get graceland and as far as elvis being alive woo more power to him kool i guess i would love to see him but i guess if he is alive and hid all these years its for a reason so yeah

[MojoElvis]

Well, there's got to be enough evidence for a judge to open the estate. There's no doubt about that. Where' did she get EP's DNA is the question?

in the video it said, it was from a letter he licked to seal...lol

[Tony Trout]

One more time, I talked with family that day. There words and the sound of their voices were not those of people in some conspiracy. Some things you just can't fake. As for Lois saying he did not die, take it with a grain of salt. She gets confused at times.


Agreed, Missy.




Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.


Oh, give me a break.....




Oh good grief.:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink:

Elvis is "frozen in" what? Where? :blink::blink::blink:



I'm wondering the same thing....



Now I've heard it all!:'(


Ditto!!

[1100ccRider]

Again....I will stand by my beliefs and my opinions.;);)

I share your belief and opinion that Elvis died on August 16, 1977, but that doesn't mean that it's possible he didn't die that day. I think some are confusing what I and others have posted as being indicative of our belief that Elvis is still alive when what it is is simply acknowledgment of the fact that we can't know exactly what happened, either way.

There are some interesting bits of evidence to support the idea that Elvis didn't die that day but there're more compelling reasons to accept the more likely truth that he died. The chance he lived may be less than one percent, but it's not zero. The important thing now, for us, is that he's very much alive in an eternal way in so many hearts -- not getting all Presleytarian religious here, because for every out-there fan who truly sees him as a messiah figure there's some music enthusiast who simply appreciates his status as a cultural and musical force -- and his appeal continues to be so broad and so deep even three decades after his death that I'm fairly confident that Elvis will be around quite a while longer yet, even if not in body. Even had he survived 1977 and restored his health such that he could have lived decades more, his substantial legacy will endure far beyond the lifespan of any one man. As the saying goes, to live in the hearts we leave behind is not to die. In that sense, it's really true that the King lives...

[hounddog]

i wish this would just go away.

[Tony Trout]

i wish this would just go away.


I don't think we're ever gonna get that lucky.....

[MissyM]

Problem is they didn't do DNA paternity tests back then. They were done by comparing blood types. Certain blood type parents can only make certain blood type children. And when people died, they didn't do DNA testing, just in case for later.




They compared the DNA results from that woman with the files and documents from Elvis' DNA that where made in the 70's for the Paternity Suit.

[kathy parkinson]

NzlG28B-R8Y

:lmfao:lmfao:lmfao::lmfao:::lmfao:::lmfao:

[mysterytrain3577]

Just one thing for the people that still think Elvis is alive.....STOP smoking crack !!!
Use the few braincells that you have left (and hopefully not damgaged by the crackuse).....go and see a shrink!!!! Rather now than tomorrow.
You guys give the rest of us Elvis' fans a bad name !!!
Increase your prozac or whatever you take to stay sane !

Anyway....we all know that Elvis was on a self destructive way of living...
And what has been said by Sonny West in his 1977 interview : " How can you protect a man against himself?"....this is true.
I know....people around him they were just as bad....drinking...pill use...etc.
If Elvis had a little bit more power to overcome his pill abuse and if others around him would have helped him with this....things would and could have been so much more nicer for him and the music !

[epmoodyblue]

:hmm:based on all the evidence since 77 ..i would say elvis def left the building on aug 16-77........:hmm:but who really knows for sure anything is possible..best thing would be to exhume the body and put all these claims to rest once and for all..and only then elvis could finally rest in peace.:cold::king:

[Donut]

Why would his family exhume his body? Thay are sure he died, they saw him dead. I'ts the ones who are so sure he is alive who should prove it and in 31 years they have never been able to do that because he is dead.

[Teddy]

I'm no expert on these matters so if anyone here is please forgive my ignorance, but I was wondering- since there are lawyers and judges attesting to the credibility of the DNA evidence, is there a risk that this investigation could result in Elvis or Vernon being exhumed in order to at least provide a more substantial DNA sample?
If so, it would make what (I am assuming) is a pretty sophisticated hoax all the more offensive and distressing. :sad:

[presley31]

Looking at Lisa marie talking about the day elvis died is enough for me to think elvis is gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1ahVU8ZNE&feature=related

[buttonhead]

I'm no expert on these matters so if anyone here is please forgive my ignorance, but I was wondering- since there are lawyers and judges attesting to the credibility of the DNA evidence, is there a risk that this investigation could result in Elvis or Vernon being exhumed in order to at least provide a more substantial DNA sample?
If so, it would make what (I am assuming) is a pretty sophisticated hoax all the more offensive and distressing. :sad:


Their bodies exhumed for further investigation ??? :blink: could be but probably not going to happen... i mean really give him some respect .. i think that Elvis fans would probably upset to have had this happened... i know i would :)

all these news they come up with as if there were nothing better in this world to investigate .... total baloney ... sorry i said that ...

PLEASE let Elvis rest in peace.

[Tony Trout]

You don't need dna to prove that Elvis is still alive. His memory,music,movies etc. Are still very much alive and doing well! He may be gone, but he sure won't be forgotten anytime soon!


Agreed.




And we wonder why Elvis fans are made fun of......:blink::blink:

BTW...JFK is really dead. My brother happened to see him get his head blown away.


Bingo. It only takes one look at JFK's autopsy photos to see proof that he's dead.

I frankly think that these "Is Elvis Alive?" threads are more of a disgrace to his memory than anything else. As I've said before, all these threads continue to do is cause fights/arguments between board members.

But...I'm not the one to tell people what to discuss and what not to discuss.... so.....




NzlG28B-R8Y


BWAHAHAHA! Best reply I've seen so far! (y)(y)


Problem is they didn't do DNA paternity tests back then. They were done by comparing blood types. Certain blood type parents can only make certain blood type children. And when people died, they didn't do DNA testing, just in case for later.


You are 100% correct, Missy.




Just one thing for the people that still think Elvis is alive.....STOP smoking crack !!!
Use the few braincells that you have left (and hopefully not damgaged by the crackuse).....go and see a shrink!!!! Rather now than tomorrow.
You guys give the rest of us Elvis' fans a bad name !!!
Increase your prozac or whatever you take to stay sane !

Anyway....we all know that Elvis was on a self destructive way of living...
And what has been said by Sonny West in his 1977 interview : " How can you protect a man against himself?"....this is true.
I know....people around him they were just as bad....drinking...pill use...etc.
If Elvis had a little bit more power to overcome his pill abuse and if others around him would have helped him with this....things would and could have been so much more nicer for him and the music !


Correct. (And actually, that was Dave Hebler who said "How can you protect a man from himself?"...not Sonny West).

[Miss Clawdy]

Just one thing for the people that still think Elvis is alive.....STOP smoking crack !!!
Use the few braincells that you have left (and hopefully not damgaged by the crackuse).....go and see a shrink!!!! Rather now than tomorrow.
You guys give the rest of us Elvis' fans a bad name !!!
Increase your prozac or whatever you take to stay sane !

Well thank you for telling us! I will try to follow your advice...later, because now I have an appointment with my shrink, don't want to miss it ;).

[Miss Clawdy]

But...I'm not the one to tell people what to discuss and what not to discuss.... so.....

It is greatly appreciated (y);)!

[Miss Clawdy]

I share your belief and opinion that Elvis died on August 16, 1977, but that doesn't mean that it's possible he didn't die that day. I think some are confusing what I and others have posted as being indicative of our belief that Elvis is still alive when what it is is simply acknowledgment of the fact that we can't know exactly what happened, either way.

There are some interesting bits of evidence to support the idea that Elvis didn't die that day but there're more compelling reasons to accept the more likely truth that he died. The chance he lived may be less than one percent, but it's not zero. The important thing now, for us, is that he's very much alive in an eternal way in so many hearts -- not getting all Presleytarian religious here, because for every out-there fan who truly sees him as a messiah figure there's some music enthusiast who simply appreciates his status as a cultural and musical force -- and his appeal continues to be so broad and so deep even three decades after his death that I'm fairly confident that Elvis will be around quite a while longer yet, even if not in body. Even had he survived 1977 and restored his health such that he could have lived decades more, his substantial legacy will endure far beyond the lifespan of any one man. As the saying goes, to live in the hearts we leave behind is not to die. In that sense, it's really true that the King lives...

I completely agree.

[john carpenter]

I Can't Agree on that one.
If the man wants to discus this,let him do it.
This is the world's biggest secret And We (elvis fans) should talk and discus it
Thanks Vegas King for sticking up for me. We put Elvis on such a high pedestal that we can,t even consider the fact he could pull this off? I know, i know he isn,t that cold hearted to let Lisa & Vernon believe he was dead..but what if they were in on it? Just voicing my opinion!:blush:

[presley31]

Thanks Vegas King for sticking up for me. We put Elvis on such a high pedestal that we can,t even consider the fact he could pull this off? I know, i know he isn,t that cold hearted to let Lisa & Vernon believe he was dead..but what if they were in on it? Just voicing my opinion!:blush:

good point but you have to think how would lisa see elvis without anybody finding out??

[kathy parkinson]

Do you seriously believe that this nine year old child went through life pretending to the world that the daddy she adored was dead?
Do you believe that Elvis sat back in the shadows and allowed his daughter to marry Michael Jackson?
I respect this is your opinion, but, i find this very disturbing that some people think Lisa could have pretended to have lost her daddy. This is my opinion.

[utmom2008]

Do you seriously believe that this nine year old child went through life pretending to the world that the daddy she adored was dead?
Do you believe that Elvis sat back in the shadows and allowed his daughter to marry Michael Jackson?
I respect this is your opinion, but, i find this very disturbing that some people think Lisa could have pretended to have lost her daddy. This is my opinion.

Thank God...a voice of reason.:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[riley]

true, no way would he have let her marry that nutcase

[franny]

true, no way would he have let her marry that nutcase

Exactly!! (y) :lol:

Also, how is it possible that nobody would have seen Elvis in the 31 years, he's been gone...

There's no way Lisa or Vernon were faking when they were mourning! I can't believe some still think he's alive, unbelievable! :blink:

Let Elvis rest in peace, he deserves that much! :king:

franny

[riley]

he sure does Franny.

Looking at Lisa in EBTP said it all. That girl still had so much pain in her every expression; it was sad to see and made me all teary. It still does every time I look at this sequence.....

That is not fake, but true emotions

[Tony Trout]

Do you seriously believe that this nine year old child went through life pretending to the world that the daddy she adored was dead?
Do you believe that Elvis sat back in the shadows and allowed his daughter to marry Michael Jackson?
I respect this is your opinion, but, i find this very disturbing that some people think Lisa could have pretended to have lost her daddy. This is my opinion.


Thank God...a voice of reason.:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy


Exactly!! (y) :lol:

Also, how is it possible that nobody would have seen Elvis in the 31 years, he's been gone...

There's no way Lisa or Vernon were faking when they were mourning! I can't believe some still think he's alive, unbelievable! :blink:

Let Elvis rest in peace, he deserves that much! :king:

franny


he sure does Franny.

Looking at Lisa in EBTP said it all. That girl still had so much pain in her every expression; it was sad to see and made me all teary. It still does every time I look at this sequence.....

That is not fake, but true emotions


I agree with everyone of y'all. (y)(y)

[presley31]

Exactly!! (y) :lol:

Also, how is it possible that nobody would have seen Elvis in the 31 years, he's been gone...

There's no way Lisa or Vernon were faking when they were mourning! I can't believe some still think he's alive, unbelievable! :blink:

Let Elvis rest in peace, he deserves that much! :king:

franny

have to agree franny

Its impossible for elvis to be hidden for 31 years and nobody seeing him for pete sake. I'am sorry but Lisa face is so sad when she talks about her father and Lisa isn't no actor but a straight up lady. Vernon well he wouldn't of took it so bad if his son was alive and living:blink:

[Unchained Melody]

Elvis isn't burried in the meditation garden. Elvis is frozen in, maybe that's where they have the DNA from. There are rumors that it is done by the same person that froze John.F.Kennedy in.

So, what, is this sort of thing suppose to be funny.

Can we not let the man RIP with some dignity for crying out loud.

(n)(n)(n)

[LtCarman]

Not to sound mean or anything but, it is this kind of stuff that give Elvis fans a bad name. Just my two cents.

[Unchained Melody]

Not to sound mean or anything but, it is this kind of stuff that give Elvis fans a bad name.

You think that would realize this by now..guess not. :'(

[Elvislives72]

Say what you want but this is getting really interesting. Usually these "Elvis is alive" stories are tabloid material but this isn't from a tabloid and is now making world news. Here's the latest.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/oct/11/dna-lab-owner-elvis-is-not-dead/?feedback=1#comments

DNA lab owner: Elvis is not dead
Supports woman's claim to be Presley's half-sister
By Lawrence Buser (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Saturday, October 11, 2008

The head of an Arizona DNA lab who supports a woman's claim that she's the daughter of Vernon Presley said Friday there's something even more interesting about the case.

Elvis is alive.

"I think the DNA taken from the person named Jessie can only be DNA of Elvis Presley," said Donald Yates of DNA Consultants in Scottsdale. "It's from a live person because the DNA is recent. There are a lot of Elvis impersonators, but I don't think you can imitate DNA. It's hard to get your mind around this story."


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Eliza Presley, a 46-year-old Washington state woman who recently changed her name from Alice Elizabeth Tiffin, said in Probate Court this week that she based her Presley kinship claim in part on a DNA sample sent to her from a Jessie Presley.

When asked by attorney William Bradley Jr. if Jessie believes he is Elvis Presley, Eliza replied, "No, actually (he is) Elvis Presley."

She did not elaborate and could not be reached Friday.

Judge Karen Webster reopened Vernon Presley's estate Wednesday at the request of Eliza's attorney, but made no other finding and did not set another court date.

Bradley, however, repeated his assertion that the case has no merit.

"After hearing her testimony in court, I'm not at all surprised about her most recent revelations," said Bradley, who represents Elvis Presley Enterprises and Lisa Marie Presley Lockwood. "Many individuals who claim to be related to Elvis Presley have vivid imaginations."

Eliza Presley's mother, former Memphian Florence Sharp Clark of Oregon, said she was part of the Elvis social circle for a period, but that she had no child by him or his father.

Elvis, who is commonly believed to have died in 1977, would be 73 today.

Yates, who has a doctoral degree in history but none in science, said he concluded Eliza is the daughter of Elvis' father, Vernon Presley, and that Jessie is actually Elvis by comparing his DNA with a Presley cousin, a cousin from Elvis' mother's side, Eliza's and several control samples.

He said neither he nor Eliza has met the man they believe to be Elvis, but that Eliza has talked to him and that he lives at an undisclosed location in the United States.

"I'm an historian and I've never known of a story of a famous person dying and then of rumors being sustained for 25 years that he's still alive," said Yates, who said he also is a former public relations man for Alka Seltzer. "Not throughout human history has a situation like that existed. Jesus Christ died, but he came back pretty quickly."

-- Lawrence Buser: 529-2385

[MissyM]

Here is a bit of information on the accuracies of sibling DNA testing. Also involving a cousin means nothing because the accuracies, are really narrowed, but ya know, I'll give that on a check via phone call. Also lets note that Yates is a historian, not a doc. of science much less DNA science.

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Sibling+DNA+testing+accuracies&y=Search&fr=my-myy&u=www.dna-paternity-test.net/dna-testing-siblings.htm&w=sibling+dna+testing+test+tests+accuracies+accura cy+accuracie%27s&d=LLst5vReRTrq&icp=1&.intl=us

[boogie]

Let Elvis rest in peace

[epmoodyblue]

:hmm:whats with all the comments like -Let Elvis rest in peace-we need to know i said earlier exhume the body well......come to think of it it was a silly thought .. sadly elvis is gone..:hmm:reason im sure of this is because if elvis was alive today he would of never allowed jackson to marry his daughter.no way.he would of stepped in and done something about it..so hes def gone nothing was done to stop there marriage lisa married jacko.means elvis really passed away in 77..neways kidding aside...i agree let elvis rest in peace:king:

[Unchained Melody]

It does make for an interesting read I'll give ya that.;)

[snowbird]

Well, it is very interesting.
But how can a DNA sample prove that elvis is still alive ?
And can you imagine him alive and never noticed or recognized by the millions of fans all over the world ?
If there's one man that can not live incognito in this world, that's elvis.

[Unchained Melody]

I thought about this. But I don't for the life of me seeing Elvis throw it all away to hide in seclusion. I'm sure he felt like he wished he could've lived a normal life, but Elvis had to be the center of attention with everything, and I just can't see him doing that...

[Tony Trout]

I thought about this. But I don't for the life of me seeing Elvis throw it all away to hide in seclusion. I'm sure he felt like he wished he could've lived a normal life, but Elvis had to be the center of attention with everything, and I just can't see him doing that...


Agreed. Besides, and it's been said over and over and over that Elvis would've never stooped so low as to put his family (especially Lisa) through the hurt and pain of having them think he faked his death.

If he was alive, do we really think that Lisa would be so emotional when discussing his death??? She was there on August 16, 1977 and she saw what happened.

As was said earlier, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

[presley31]

Agreed. Besides, and it's been said over and over and over that Elvis would've never stooped so low as to put his family (especially Lisa) through the hurt and pain of having them think he faked his death.

If he was alive, do we really think that Lisa would be so emotional when discussing his death??? She was there on August 16, 1977 and she saw what happened.

As was said earlier, you can't fake that kind of emotion.


Tony you just have to let people have there own opinions, not saying there right but everyone thinks different my friend so relax cause we know the turth and thats what matters.

[franny]

Agreed. Besides, and it's been said over and over and over that Elvis would've never stooped so low as to put his family (especially Lisa) through the hurt and pain of having them think he faked his death.

If he was alive, do we really think that Lisa would be so emotional when discussing his death??? She was there on August 16, 1977 and she saw what happened.

As was said earlier, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

Exactly, Tony. Elvis thought the world of his family! Great post! (y)

These "people" who are (just) coming forward saying they are Elvis half-sister or whatever, just want money and publicity! It's so ridiculous :lol:

franny

[presley31]

Exactly, Tony. Elvis thought the world of his family! Great post! (y)

These "people" who are (just) coming forward saying they are Elvis half-sister or whatever, just want money and publicity! It's so ridiculous :lol:

franny

agree franny and if you believe some nut bar like this woman than you believe anything:blink:

[Unchained Melody]

Agreed. Besides, and it's been said over and over and over that Elvis would've never stooped so low as to put his family (especially Lisa) through the hurt and pain of having them think he faked his death.

If he was alive, do we really think that Lisa would be so emotional when discussing his death??? She was there on August 16, 1977 and she saw what happened.

As was said earlier, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

Exactly Bro, you can't fake that emotions. Look at Elvis By The Presley's when Lisa is discussing his death, looked pretty darn real to me.

[Elvislives72]

:hmm:whats with all the comments like -Let Elvis rest in peace-we need to know i said earlier exhume the body well......come to think of it it was a silly thought .. sadly elvis is gone..:hmm:reason im sure of this is because if elvis was alive today he would of never allowed jackson to marry his daughter.no way.he would of stepped in and done something about it..so hes def gone nothing was done to stop there marriage lisa married jacko.means elvis really passed away in 77..neways kidding aside...i agree let elvis rest in peace:king:

Oh please. Her marrying Jackson was nothing but a ploy to save his image and career. That's all. She was never in love with him and he's never loved a woman to have been in love with her. Itw as about a friend stepping in to help a friend out. Notice how they divorced only a few months later once he was cleared of all charges.:hmm:

[Elvislives72]

Agreed. Besides, and it's been said over and over and over that Elvis would've never stooped so low as to put his family (especially Lisa) through the hurt and pain of having them think he faked his death.

If he was alive, do we really think that Lisa would be so emotional when discussing his death??? She was there on August 16, 1977 and she saw what happened.

As was said earlier, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

Anyone can fake emotion. Ever heard of acting? If the DNA is really Elvis' then something's fishy with what all went on on 8-16-77 and that means everyone from Joe to Nancy to Lisa have lied publicly to cover it up. Unless he took a drug that knocked him out to where he wasn't breathing and was taken to a secret location to recooperate and then left the country to keep certain oens form knowing. I'm sure Lisa would know by now though. Not saying that's what happened but anything's possible.

Something else to think about. If they can do a DNA test on a 2,000 year old mummy to identify it then surley they can do it on a man who's only been dead for 31 years.

[Unchained Melody]

If the DNA is really Elvis' then something's fishy with what all went on on 8-16-77 and that means everyone from Joe to Nancy to Lisa have lied publicly to cover it up..

With Joe, having said he found Elvis in his bed not breathing, I believe that was just Joe trying to cover up for elvis, because I guess he thought with the media and all it would've looked bad with him saying he found Elvis in the bathroom fell of the commode.

[KPM]

Anyone can fake emotion. Ever heard of acting? If the DNA is really Elvis' then something's fishy with what all went on on 8-16-77 and that means everyone from Joe to Nancy to Lisa have lied publicly to cover it up. Unless he took a drug that knocked him out to where he wasn't breathing and was taken to a secret location to recooperate and then left the country to keep certain oens form knowing. I'm sure Lisa would know by now though. Not saying that's what happened but anything's possible.

Something else to think about. If they can do a DNA test on a 2,000 year old mummy to identify it then surley they can do it on a man who's only been dead for 31 years.
Not necessarily-posted this on the other thread but it applies here also.
First off DNA just recently taken of Elvis Aron Presley-would have to be proved that it was just recently taken. If anyone has a strand of his hair-that contains DNA-if they have a cup "he drank from"-even from 1970 it may have his DNA signature on the cup. A scarf "he wore and sweated on"-may have his DNA on it. An "envelope licked by Elvis" may have DNA-but it does not prove its recent DNA.So proving that a sample was just recently taken is going to be much harder than just saying it was recent.
I would assume the courts would say, "Wait a minute!-Whats the chain of this evidence and wheres the legal proof that it is indeed recent"
I know everyone recalls the shrink a few years ago who was "treating Elvis"
and claimed it was 100% certain it was Elvis. He said proof would be forth coming and it was indeed a sham"
I listened to this guy being interviewed on local radio and the DJs had a suprise for him Marion Cocke Elvis's nurse who was there when they worked on Elvis on 8-16-77 she was mad and crying after listening to this shrinks story of being 100% sure Elvis was alive. She asked him if he had any idea how wrong it was to give fans such false hope. The guy got mad claimed he was set up (which was true) and he hung up.

[presley31]

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[Unchained Melody]

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What a bunch of crap...:mad::mad::angry:

[presley31]

What a bunch of crap...:mad::mad::angry:

you got that right. These people hold on to false hope;)

[Elvislives72]

The guy on the interview said it best. The only way to prove he's not alive is to dig up the grave. But as he also said that's not going to happen but it has been done before and the world we live in now where dignity means nothing, it just might happen one day.

[Unchained Melody]

but it has been done before and the world we live in now where dignity means nothing, it just might happen one day.

I seriously doubt that.

[Elvislives72]

I seriously doubt that.

I doubt it too. But we never know what will happen. But IMO Lisa will never allow it because it would kill the interest in Elvis when they saw his remains and the world would then know he is definitely dead. Or, if there wasn't any person in there then they could have an all out Elvis search with a reward for the person who finds him.:lol:

[Unchained Melody]

:mad:
You people talk about dignity. How much dignity do you think I had when I felt like my clothes weren't good enough and I felt bad about singing in front of those people at the Humes variety show? When Buzzie Forbess, who was one of my best riends by the way, gave me that red flannel shirt to wear. He knew I liked it. Then I felt bad because I put a hole in it. Or how about getting eviction notices because your momma made a little extra money? And you talk about dignity.

So now we probably have people checking out the forum and finding 10 diferent topics about Elvis being alive so now they come on here pretending to be him. Just lovely....:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::

[Elvislives72]

:mad:

So now we probably have people checking out the forum and finding 10 diferent topics about Elvis being alive so now they come on here pretending to be him. Just lovely....:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::

Exactly.:angry:(n)

[Unchained Melody]

Its disgraceful, literally....:lame::sad:

[1100ccRider]

Anyone can fake emotion. Ever heard of acting?

My first thought, too. I'm sure that everyone saying that such emotions cannot be faked will have been, as I have been many times, convinced by the emotions portrayed with great sincerity (faked, in cruder terms) by even halfway competent actors.

But I figured my playing the Devil's Advocate was already wearing thin and that all I'd do is wrongly convince people that I'm a die-hard (no pun intended) proponent of the Elvis-is-Alive theory(s). But, yeah, acting...emoting...properly done, you can't tell it from the real thing




(for the comprehension-impaired, here I am not suggesting that Lisa Marie or anyone else involved was acting their grief; indeed, if someone DID fake his or her death I think the least cruel, if still heartbreaking, way to do so would be to keep that fact from family and others closest to him or her and to just disappear forever from their lives, because any severe move like that has equally dramatic consequences, not all of them positive)

[1100ccRider]

Not necessarily-posted this on the other thread but it applies here also.
First off DNA just recently taken of Elvis Aron Presley-would have to be proved that it was just recently taken. If anyone has a strand of his hair-that contains DNA-if they have a cup "he drank from"-even from 1970 it may have his DNA signature on the cup. A scarf "he wore and sweated on"-may have his DNA on it. An "envelope licked by Elvis" may have DNA-but it does not prove its recent DNA.So proving that a sample was just recently taken is going to be much harder than just saying it was recent.
I would assume the courts would say, "Wait a minute!-Whats the chain of this evidence and wheres the legal proof that it is indeed recent"

Exactly!

Admittedly, I'm probably very much lacking in focus from severe sleep deprivation right now, but I'm failing to see the part in these reports in which any DNA evidence they may or may not have could actually even suggest, let alone prove, that Elvis still lives. And, yes, there again we have the very question as to whether the DNA is even Elvis' -- there certainly are many samples of his hair and other bits and pieces (yes, perhaps even concert scarves could yield something even after all this time), but I'm not sure how much of it has a fireproof warranty in terms of the integrity of the chain of evidence.

Even that diagnostic lab in the San Fernando Valley that may or may not have samples of Elvis DNA taken postmortem (I actually went to that lab once...can't recall its name now but I did then, and it was kinda weird knowing the connection) wouldn't be much use in that, if there really was a dead body for them to take samples from, it couldn't be Elvis Presley unless he did something odd like rise on the fourth day.

[Elvislives72]

Here's how I feel about the "Elvis is alive" theory. My mind tells me he is but my heart tells me he's not. It's been way too long.

Here's the thing that keeps me wondering. There's been so many unsolved mysteries regarding Elvis' death over the years and what all took place between 11:00 pm o 8-15-77 and 5:30 am when he wa found not breathing on 8-16-77. Some of the myths have been proven fake or untrue but others still remain unsolved or proven false to this day, such as the fact that his life insurance policy was never cashed in which is usually done once a person is deseased. Another was of the fact that a man going by the name of John Burrows boarded a plane at Memphis International Airport on the exact morning that Elvis reporedly died. What were the odds of that, knowing now that Elvis used that as his secret alias name when traveling?

There's so much that could lead anyone, fan or not, to believe he faked his death. Too many conspiracies and coincidences.

[Merry]

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moon



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http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/post5225.html#5225)Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Vernon had a daughter??http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=5225) Vernon's Estate Reopened

A judge on Wednesday reopened the estate of Elvis Presley's father after a woman testified she has DNA proof she is Vernon Presley's daughter and Elvis' half-sister.

http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show (http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show)

She's Vernon's daughter and I'm the King Of Siam.

It's getting tiresome seeing these worms come out of the woodwork.

The ***** who heads up the Arizona DNA claims it is Elvis' DNA and he is alive.
This is a so-caloled DNA expert who has no science training his main subject is history. That figures, probably a political appointee who doesn't know his *** from his elbow. Probably recomended by John McCain.

DNA EXPERT, MY ***!

What an insult to Elvis' memory

[Unchained Melody]

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moon



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http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/post5225.html#5225)Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Vernon had a daughter??http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=5225) Vernon's Estate Reopened

A judge on Wednesday reopened the estate of Elvis Presley's father after a woman testified she has DNA proof she is Vernon Presley's daughter and Elvis' half-sister.

http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show (http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show)

She's Vernon's daughter and I'm the King Of Siam.

It's getting tiresome seeing these worms come out of the woodwork.

The ***** who heads up the Arizona DNA claims it is Elvis' DNA and he is alive.
This is a so-caloled DNA expert who has no science training his main subject is history. That figures, probably a political appointee who doesn't know his *** from his elbow. Probably recomended by John McCain.

DNA EXPERT, MY ***!

What an insult to Elvis' memory

Well, Lacker always did have a blunt way of putting things, and I agree with every word here! Especially the last sentence in which I have outlined in bold.

[Unchained Melody]

such as the fact that his life insurance policy was never cashed in which is usually done once a person is deseased.


Has EPE or Priscilla or anyone related ever came out and said why his life insurance was not collected?


Another was of the fact that a man going by the name of John Burrows boarded a plane at Memphis International Airport on the exact morning that Elvis reporedly died. What were the odds of that, knowing now that Elvis used that as his secret alias name when traveling?

Haven't heard that one. Very interesting to say the least.:hmm:

[SatninLove]

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moon



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http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/post5225.html#5225)Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Vernon had a daughter??http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=5225) Vernon's Estate Reopened

A judge on Wednesday reopened the estate of Elvis Presley's father after a woman testified she has DNA proof she is Vernon Presley's daughter and Elvis' half-sister.

http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show (http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show)

She's Vernon's daughter and I'm the King Of Siam.

It's getting tiresome seeing these worms come out of the woodwork.

The ***** who heads up the Arizona DNA claims it is Elvis' DNA and he is alive.
This is a so-caloled DNA expert who has no science training his main subject is history. That figures, probably a political appointee who doesn't know his *** from his elbow. Probably recomended by John McCain.

DNA EXPERT, MY ***!

What an insult to Elvis' memory

I couldn't agree more..Will anyone ever let poor old Elvis rest in peace?Do they have to dig him up to prove a point?
-SatninLove

[KPM]

Its disgraceful, literally....:lame::sad:
It is very disgraceful. You do not have to dig up the grave to prove Elvis is dead. There have to be at least 3 dozen people who saw him dead on 8-16-77 and not just Elvis people-but hospital employees, doctors, the ambulance drivers, other patients who saw the stretcher with him on it being wheeled into the ER etc......I have listened to Marion Cocke interviewed on radio and read a couple interviews she has given, "she was there at Baptist Memorial"- she says there is no doubt nor if ands or buts that Elvis Presley died on 8-16-77. She is more convincing than any person who has ever discussed his death. The people who start these rumors-some in earnest, some to make a buck, and some just to stir up controversy are just totally wrong.
We live in such a "conspiracy laden society"-where every single moment is somehow orchestrated by some unseen powers or forces. Sure their are somethings and instances where there may be something more than we see-but not everything. Tabloid journalism has bred tabloid thinking on the publics part. Worsens every year. Gets more disgraceful every year.

[Unchained Melody]

It is very disgraceful. You do not have to dig up the grave to prove Elvis is dead. There have to be at least 3 dozen people who saw him dead on 8-16-77 and not just Elvis people-but hospital employees, doctors, the ambulance drivers, other patients who saw the stretcher with him on it being wheeled into the ER etc......I have listened to Marion Cocke interviewed on radio and read a couple interviews she has given, "she was there at Baptist Memorial"- she says there is no doubt nor if ands or buts that Elvis Presley died on 8-16-77. She is more convincing than any person who has ever discussed his death. The people who start these rumors-some in earnest, some to make a buck, and some just to stir up controversy are just totally wrong.
We live in such a "conspiracy laden society"-where every single moment is somehow orchestrated by some unseen powers or forces. Sure their are somethings and instances where there may be something more than we see-but not everything. Tabloid journalism has breed tabloid thinking on the publics part. Worsens every year. Gets more disgraceful every year.

Well said Ken you are exactly right..

[Merry]

You do not have to dig up the grave to prove Elvis is dead. There have to be at least 3 dozen people who saw him dead on 8-16-77 and not just Elvis people-but hospital employees, doctors, the ambulance drivers, other patients who saw the stretcher with him on it being wheeled into the ER etc......I have listened to Marion Cocke interviewed on radio and read a couple interviews she has given, "she was there at Baptist Memorial"- she says there is no doubt nor if ands or buts that Elvis Presley died on 8-16-77. She is more convincing than any person who has ever discussed his death. The people who start these rumors-some in earnest, some to make a buck, and some just to stir up controversy are just totally wrong.
We live in such a "conspiracy laden society"-where every single moment is somehow orchestrated by some unseen powers or forces. Sure their are somethings and instances where there may be something more than we see-but not everything. Tabloid journalism has breed tabloid thinking on the publics part. Worsens every year. Gets more disgraceful every year.


I totally agree, Ken.

Well said.

Talking about people in this genre. There was the lady over a year ago, who wrote a story, enthusiastically promoting herself, saying she was with Elvis late 1977. I communicated with her, typing messages on her website. She said she'd give us a hint as to her relationship, what her expose was all about. She ended up admitting, that the relationship was like "The Ghost and Mrs Muir" which was a series, about a lovely lady (Hope Lange) who had a relationship with a Sea Captain, who was a ghost. :blink::blink::angry::mad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_and_Mrs_Muir



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[Vegas1969]

It is very disgraceful. You do not have to dig up the grave to prove Elvis is dead. There have to be at least 3 dozen people who saw him dead on 8-16-77 and not just Elvis people-but hospital employees, doctors, the ambulance drivers, other patients who saw the stretcher with him on it being wheeled into the ER etc......I have listened to Marion Cocke interviewed on radio and read a couple interviews she has given, "she was there at Baptist Memorial"- she says there is no doubt nor if ands or buts that Elvis Presley died on 8-16-77. She is more convincing than any person who has ever discussed his death. The people who start these rumors-some in earnest, some to make a buck, and some just to stir up controversy are just totally wrong.
We live in such a "conspiracy laden society"-where every single moment is somehow orchestrated by some unseen powers or forces. Sure their are somethings and instances where there may be something more than we see-but not everything. Tabloid journalism has bred tabloid thinking on the publics part. Worsens every year. Gets more disgraceful every year.

I very much like your posts and how you think. I think same way.

[Elvislives72]

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http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/post5225.html#5225)Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Vernon had a daughter??http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://aeklounge.ffrq.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=5225) Vernon's Estate Reopened

A judge on Wednesday reopened the estate of Elvis Presley's father after a woman testified she has DNA proof she is Vernon Presley's daughter and Elvis' half-sister.

http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show (http://www.elvisnews.com/Presentation/Functional/Page/news.aspx?item=11116&command=show)

She's Vernon's daughter and I'm the King Of Siam.

It's getting tiresome seeing these worms come out of the woodwork.

The ***** who heads up the Arizona DNA claims it is Elvis' DNA and he is alive.
This is a so-caloled DNA expert who has no science training his main subject is history. That figures, probably a political appointee who doesn't know his *** from his elbow. Probably recomended by John McCain.

DNA EXPERT, MY ***!

What an insult to Elvis' memory

Marty lives up to the term "grumpy old man". Everything he ever has to say is filled with bitterness and hatred in his remarks. He also can't stand to be wrong or corrected. He posts at the Memphis CA a lot under the name Moon2337 or something like that. I've seen him get into it with practically everyone and most of the time not even about Elvis related topics. He's just naturally a grumpy old fart. Sounds like someone else on here.:hmm:

[Genie]

:blush:
I couldn't agree more..Will anyone ever let poor old Elvis rest in peace?Do they have to dig him up to prove a point?
-SatninLove


:blush:
I hate to blow you out of the water on DNA...but even in closed crime cases, evidence which was kept, articles of clothing, a blood stain, a tooth....so on and so forth, could not be solved then, but can be now.
Our technology is incredible and improving as I speak(type)
Sad to say, at autopsy, there are slides, of blood stain, saliva and skin samples..they still exist, because he was the King...who would toss them out?
It wasn't a murder case, but never the less, these items remain.
As for the envelope...good Lord, give me a break... lets just say Elvis is not dead? Isn't that wonderful? It means he might have enjoyed his life, rather than putting up with being told what to eat, drink, say and think...
Wherever the man is, dead or alive, he should be respected, protected, and left to his own wishes... if he wanted to come forth...he would..so "IF" he were alive, and he has not, then it speaks for itself, he wants to be left alone..he doesn't want to hurt anyone. He doesn't want to be tracked like a seriel killer...... :blink: Can't we just respect whoemever is laying in that grave? Or who is not? Love means letting go sometimes, as much as it hurts.
Saying goodbye doesn't mean dying...it just means.. "I've had enough"
That is my perception of all this craziness, stalking the man..........talk about a real metaphor here...which I used to love tossing at Devildog and Marty Lacker... "Hound-dog" witch hunt...that is what fans shouldn't be doing.
Dontcha think?
If he is found, how much love do you think this man can show to his fams of a lifetime, knowing they literally dug up his grave to be sure.... or went to some far out cabin or cave and drug him out by the feet...like a hibernating bear.........just for self satisfaction? Oh please...
Lets be happy for him, he is one of two places...here on this crummy earth we call home...with the rest of us...or he is in heaven..with some of us..the very least we owe to Elvis Presley, is the respect to allow him to live or die..without interuption or false documentations...to put feathers in the hat of the person who spots him first. Trust me, he wont feel friendly toward that particular "Rat"
I know I wouldn't.:blink: This stupid thing keeps saying my message is too short...I think it's too long..and I'm about to have a fit anytime....:notworthy
God bless you, adios

[Elvislives72]

The more I think about it the more I am calling this lawyer's bluff. And in the end he should be held for contempt and fraud and have his lawyer practice license revoked. If he gets off then there's no justice in this country anymore.

[1100ccRider]

As for the envelope...good Lord, give me a break... lets just say Elvis is not dead? Isn't that wonderful? It means he might have enjoyed his life, rather than putting up with being told what to eat, drink, say and think...
Wherever the man is, dead or alive, he should be respected, protected, and left to his own wishes... if he wanted to come forth...he would..so "IF" he were alive, and he has not, then it speaks for itself, he wants to be left alone..he doesn't want to hurt anyone. He doesn't want to be tracked like a seriel killer......



Totally agree. It's an interesting little mystery -- even apart from the inevitable and very understandable wish that Elvis still lived, or inability to let him go, there are some interesting questions surrounding his death -- and some things are better left as mystery. It makes life more interesting.

More to the point, I agree with you about the whole "tracked like a serial killer" thing. Much as I'd love to see Elvis get on that stage one more time, if he somehow did get away from it all on August 16, 1977, and still lived, I'd just as soon he continue to have the peace and privacy that eluded him for much of the 21 years of his living with fame. If we really care about Elvis, the very least we could do in thanks for what he gave us is that we'd let him live as he wished if he did, indeed, fake his death 31 years ago, and if that unlikely situation is true than presumably his wishes are to remain out of the public eye.

[Unchained Melody]

Elvislives72, I definitley agree with you on Marty Lacker the Slacker.

No seriously, he does seem to have so much anger in him, just listen to him on Elvis The Final Days and All The Kings Men, hell he makes Fike look like a saint. Also have you noticed he's the only one whos always said Priscilla's father forced Elvis to marry her, and everyone else says Elvis wanted to. Marty just did not like her at all from the beginning, and hes always been an old fart if you ask me.

[MojoElvis]

Elvislives72, I definitley agree with you on Marty Lacker the Slacker.

No seriously, he does seem to have so much anger in him, just listen to him on Elvis The Final Days and All The Kings Men, hell he makes Fike look like a saint. Also have you noticed he's the only one whos always said Priscilla's father forced Elvis to marry her, and everyone else says Elvis wanted to. Marty just did not like her at all from the beginning, and hes always been an old fart if you ask me.

Marty to me seems pretty upfront and boldly voices his opinion even if he does not remember facts. Remember, all these guys had drug problems too so the stories have to appear a bit foggy at times.
He's not the only one to talk about Priscilla's father forcing Elvis to marry her. Billy and Lamar both agreed to it, also Sheila Ryan and Alicia Kerwin spoke of it too. One time about 10 years ago, Marty got into an argument with me regarding, Scotty and DJ being session musicians on almost all of Elvis' soundtracks cept for the last two years. He was insisting that they had left the Elvis right after 1960. He finally admitted to me that, He guessed never paid attention to who was in the studio when he would go there. So they do have memory problems due the drugs I think. I know I messed myself up when I used to be an addict.

[TotallyInsane]

Genie, I've ratted myself out. I don' care. I'm safe. No one can prove anything. That's all I am going to say. Have a nice life.

Well, we really would like to see a picture of you now - why don't you post one? You don't have to tell us where you're at to post a picture!!!!

[Getlo]

Also have you noticed he's the only one whos always said Priscilla's father forced Elvis to marry her, and everyone else says Elvis wanted to.

Quite wrong, sorry.

[presley31]

Marty lives up to the term "grumpy old man". Everything he ever has to say is filled with bitterness and hatred in his remarks. He also can't stand to be wrong or corrected. He posts at the Memphis CA a lot under the name Moon2337 or something like that. I've seen him get into it with practically everyone and most of the time not even about Elvis related topics. He's just naturally a grumpy old fart. Sounds like someone else on here.:hmm:

Yes l agree(y)(y)

[Donut]

Quite wrong, sorry.

I was thinking the same but I didn't want to Priscialize the thread. Same is said in another thread about her but the thing is the only ones that say he wanted to marry her are Joe and Jerry if I'm not wrong...

[ehollier]

I was thinking the same but I didn't want to Priscialize the thread. Same is said in another thread about her but the thing is the only ones that say he wanted to marry her are Joe and Jerry if I'm not wrong...


Charlie, Sonny, and Red also have said that Elvis always intended to marry Priscilla.

[presley31]

Charlie, Sonny, and Red also have said that Elvis always intended to marry Priscilla.

I was just thinking the same thing;)

[Teddy]

I was thinking the same but I didn't want to Priscialize the thread.
Wow- I got tingles when you said that. You made up a whole new word :wub:

[Donut]

Charlie, Sonny, and Red also have said that Elvis always intended to marry Priscilla.

I'm not as sure as you are about that, never heard it before.

[Teddy]

Hey look- if he didn't want to marry her, he wouldn't have. He was Elvis freakin' Presley :angry:

[ehollier]

Wow- I got tingles when you said that. You made up a whole new word :wub:


OK Teddy, get control of yourself, dude....

[ehollier]

Hey look- if he didn't want to marry her, he wouldn't have. He was Elvis freakin' Presley :angry:


This is very true and has been debated here many times. Some just have trouble accepting this arcane idea.

[ehollier]

I'm not as sure as you are about that, never heard it before.


Well, it has been published in more than one book about his life, with these particuliar members being quoted as saying that they always believed that Elvis intended to marry Priscilla. I know.....hard to believe, huh????

[Donut]

This is very true and has been debated here many times. Some just have trouble accepting this arcane idea.

Yeah must be that...

[Donut]

Well, it has been published in more than one book about his life, with these particuliar members being quoted as saying that they always believed that Elvis intended to marry Priscilla. I know.....hard to believe, huh????

Yes, I just told you. And I think the "Elvis is alive" posters won't appreciate our little old discussion here ;)

[Teddy]

Yes, I just told you. And I think the "Elvis is alive" posters won't appreciate our little old discussion here ;)

Exactly! Get your sugar-coated ** over to the real thread and let's race to that 300 mark.

[Erhan]

DNA proves some Elvis Fans are still alien!?!?

[Genie]

Genie, I've ratted myself out. I don' care. I'm safe. No one can prove anything. That's all I am going to say. Have a nice life.

Well, we really would like to see a picture of you now - why don't you post one? You don't have to tell us where you're at to post a picture!!!!

:mad:
Totally Insane, I suppose we could all be considered that at times...
Seeing I cannot reply to the post made back to me, I can at least speak through your post to the issue....
Why does everyone want to see a photo? Can he still sing? where is he...and does his family know? bla bla bla....................if he wanted to "Rat" himself out, then more power to him, because by the grace of God, there go you or I...living as best you can in saftey...and still yet wanting so much to say something, do something... put yourself in his shoes. Regardless if you do not believe this is Elvis........ I believe him. I have good cause to. But I will also protect him and he knows this, anytime he wants my help, he has it.
Send your own picture!:lmfao:

[presley31]

I don't believe elvis is here, but in heaven with his parents.

[utmom2008]

:mad:
Totally Insane, what an approppriate name.
Seeing I cannot reply to the post made back to me, I can at least speak through your post to the issue....
Why does everyone want to see a photo? Can he still sing? where is he...and does his family know? bla bla bla....................if he wanted to "Rat" himself out, then more power to him, because by the grace of God, there go you or I...living as best you can in saftey...and still yet wanting so much to say something, do something... put yourself in his shoes. Regardless if you do not believe this is Elvis........ I believe him. I have good cause to. But I will also protect him and he knows this, anytime he wants my help, he has it.
Send your own picture!:lmfao:

Genie.....Totally Insane(that would be "Gail") has a message for you. She's on Hwy. 79 right now, headed home from Memphis BTW, and can't pull off to the side of the road to respond. She does however want you to hang tight..as she will be home in a couple of hours and can't WAIT to respond to you.

FYI....her picture IS on here, more that 1 time. Where is yours??:lol::lol::lol:

[elvisfan92]

this is my opinion "Leave The Poor Man To Rest.....and for the believers that he is still alive He went into hidding to get away from us apparently, so Let him be, let him rest"

[utmom2008]

I don't believe elvis is here, but in heaven with his parents.

Of course that's where he is. God bless him.:sad::sad:

[Lindagtz]

...all these opinions & points of view just lead us to one REAL THING...deep inside of us we would like Elvis to be physically ALIVE, with us, singing beautifully as always, watching his precious presence...Fact is HE STILL lives, we will not let him go so easily, because his legacy is ETERNAL...my 6-year-old daughter is already his #1 fan, by the way.

LONG LIVE THE KING!!! :notworthy

[Lindagtz]

Thankyouverymuch!!!!:king: :D

[tcbtigerman]

Well,i have never believed he was alive at all but what im about to post is the only thing that has ever confused the hell out of me.He sounds and looks a lot like Elvis if he was alive still.This gentleman's name is Jon Cotner supposedly.Look at listen to the photos and the voice in these videos and let me know what you all think.It's just weird!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uXc8yeQLSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKbMHylo__Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY318vDwR5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTUCfM409Tg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUz41oyyoYA

http://www.elviscommunity.com/kickapps/_GUESS-WHO/photo/1394575/27782.html?enlarge=true






I know this sounds like another "here we go aagain" story, but according to a judge, Elvis is still alive and has a half sister and they now claim to have DNA to prove it. I don't think he's still alive but you never know. It is still slightly possible. And they say DNA samples don't lie so I guess we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out.

Watch it for yourselves and then make an open minded decision. After seeing this I really don't know what to believe anymore. Either it's the biggest scam in pop culture hisotiry or the King lives, literally.:supriced:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7605808&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[KPM]

Well,i have never believed he was alive at all but what im about to post is the only thing that has ever confused the hell out of me.He sounds and looks a lot like Elvis if he was alive still.This gentleman's name is Jon Cotner supposedly.Look at listen to the photos and the voice in these videos and let me know what you all think.It's just weird!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uXc8yeQLSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKbMHylo__Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY318vDwR5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTUCfM409Tg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUz41oyyoYA

http://www.elviscommunity.com/kickapps/_GUESS-WHO/photo/1394575/27782.html?enlarge=true
That is not Elvis.

[Sonny]

Now stay on topic please.

It's of no use coming back to me with questions, either Genie, Jess or who ever.

If Genie has something to tell, tell it, if not don't.

But not in this topic, or any other not related topic for that matter.

Sonny

[tcbtigerman]

Think of what he would look like and sound like now.Thats what i mean.



That is not Elvis.

[KPM]

Think of what he would look like and sound like now.Thats what i mean.
I did think of what he would sound and look like now, and that guy is not Elvis IMO. When he says the word "alone" he sounds more like Roy Orbison.

[tcbtigerman]

You can't deny those features are there,.Cheekbones,nose,etc.....People sound different when they age.They dont sound the same.Listen to jerry lee or Tom jones etc.....

[KPM]

You can't deny those features are there,.Cheekbones,nose,etc.....People sound different when they age.They dont sound the same.Listen to jerry lee or Tom jones etc.....
Al I can say is sure people do age.
Tom Jones still sounds like Tom Jones when he speaks and when he sings-his pronunciation and Welsh accent are still intact.
Tom Jones is 68 but still looks like-"Tom Jones" no question who he is
Jerry Lee still has a southern twange when he speaks and sings (his voice is a little weak at time) he still has the same pronunciation. He is heavier and older but when you look at him you know-this is "Jerry Lee Lewis".
Many people look like someone-especially when this person is frozen in time 31 years ago and you have not watched them slowly age each year.
If you think this guy is Elvis-that okay-I do not.
Elvis is dead-wish he wasn't but he is. All these rumors and hoaxs do- is give a false hope to fans who want so badly for Elvis to be alive. Not everything is a conspiracy-not everything is planned out in advance to some higher reason of purpose. Elvis's earthly life ended on 8-16-77.

[utmom2008]

Elvis is dead-wish he wasn't but he is. All these rumors and hoaxs do- is give a false hope to fans who want so badly for Elvis to be alive. Not everything is a conspiracy-not everything is planned out in advance to some higher reason of purpose. Elvis's earthly life ended on 8-16-77.

Great post.:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[jean francois]

and like me debates about Elvis Elvis would be alive if that would be your reaction and the news this week that Elvis would have a half sister
and she said that Elvis is alive and wear the name of jesse I think a 75%
that the king can have fake his death in 1977, can be that I go for a con
but I'm sure that as fans here think the same thing as me


;)

[presley31]

I'am guessing that the people who think elvis is alive didn't think about the love elvis had for his fans or his family. I was watching unsolved mysteries and david stanley was talking crap like normal, but what saddens me is that they play this stuff on tv, bad enough its on a elvis forum, but heck the world the is watching and the younger generation are going to be thinking elvis is out running aroud somewhere. I think its better to get the facts straight instead of putting lies out there and bottom line is elvis is a stand up person and wouldn't think of hiding from the people who love the ground he walked on.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Elvis' lifestyle and habits were unsustainable, it would have taken a massive lifestyle change to raise Elvis' life expectancy! Even if Elvis had changed his habits to a healthier pattern I don't believe that Elvis would have lived to reach the age of 73 given the information regarding his health and the damage already done to his body at the age of 42. I could be wrong, but then so many conditions have bee attributed to Elvis' health that it is quite difficult to postulate..

[Teddy]

When he says the word "alone" he sounds more like Roy Orbison.

Perhaps it really IS Roy! :supriced:
The original Sun Records roster is being systematically resurrected, one deceased artist at a time- and each one manifestly incarnated within Jon Cotner's humble frame. (y)
Can anybody hear any Carl Perkins yet?

[Donut]

Have you found Elvis yet? If someone did please let us know through any of the massive number of threads that have been started about this in the last week or so.

[ehollier]

Since everyone around here hides behind the anonymity, no one really knows who the other is.....WILL THE REAL ELVIS PLEASE STAND UP.........:'(:'(:'(

[Donut]

Since everyone around here hides behind the anonymity, no one really knows who the other is.....WILL THE REAL ELVIS PLEASE STAND UP.........:'(:'(:'(

LOL At least he could rise his hand.

[cbg84]

Elvis died 16th August 1977, please let him rest in peace,

I second that. Let's all just accept the fact he's gone and enjoy what he left us to enjoy which is his music and movies.

[Elvislives72]

There's maybe a 10% chance of him still being alive. The argument that he died will go on forever. The fact is nobody really knows unless they touched or saw the body on the examining table and witnesses can back it up. And that only person I know of is Dr. Vasco Smith who story has been questioned at times mainly by Lacker.

Although Lisa apparently had a medium to contact him from the beyond recently so that would mean he's really dead if that did indeed happen. And yes mediums are real and not fake.

[utmom2008]

There's maybe a 10% chance of him still being alive.
And yes mediums are real and not fake.

Good grief....I am speechless. :rolleyes:

[KPM]

Good grief....I am speechless. :rolleyes:
The continuation of topics like "is he alive" amazes me.
Must have been a bigger conspiracy to end all conspiracies. Federal government,Tennesee state, Shelby county, Every person who says they saw him dead including ambulance drivers, police, doctors, nurses and those at Graceland-all must have made a tidy sum to help defraud the entire world.;)
I recall in the late 60s a photo on the National Enquirer Cover of a white haired man in a wheel chair. The title was something like,
"Kennedy Alive on Onassis Island"
It went on to describe a huge conspiracy theory and try to back it up with conjecture and senseless questions on end.:lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

I recall in the late 60s a photo on the National Enquirer Cover of a white haired man in a wheel chair. The title was something like,
"Kennedy Alive on Onassis Island"
It went on to describe a huge conspiracy theory and try to back it up with conjecture and senseless questions on end.:lmfao::lmfao:

OMG!!! I remember that issue, I hadn't thought about it in years. That must be where Elvis and all of his cohorts got the idea.:lol::lol::lol:

[KPM]

OMG!!! I remember that issue, I hadn't thought about it in years. That must be where Elvis and all of his cohorts got the idea.:lol::lol::lol:
Exactly-probably the same white haired Enquirer reporter is working on the DNA story.:lol:

[Tony Trout]

There's maybe a 10% chance of him still being alive. The argument that he died will go on forever. The fact is nobody really knows unless they touched or saw the body on the examining table and witnesses can back it up. And that only person I know of is Dr. Vasco Smith who story has been questioned at times mainly by Lacker.

Are you for real? :lol::lol:

There are/were witnesses who saw Elvis on the autopsy table. Would they lie??



Although Lisa apparently had a medium to contact him from the beyond recently so that would mean he's really dead if that did indeed happen. And yes mediums are real and not fake.

Mediums like Sylvia Brown and others are fake as a $6.00 - that's a fact.

[Donut]

The continuation of topics like "is he alive" amazes me.
Must have been a bigger conspiracy to end all conspiracies. Federal government,Tennesee state, Shelby county, Every person who says they saw him dead including ambulance drivers, police, doctors, nurses and those at Graceland-all must have made a tidy sum to help defraud the entire world.;)


Don't forget all those many fans who passed by the casket. I can see Vernon saying well, let them see him, no one will notice. The TCB band along with Kathy Westmoreland the cancer theorist, the reverend, Ann Margaret who played the role of her life, and the list goes on and on...
Must have been like 2000 people involved in it, a portion of them known by not being able to keep their mouth shut.

[utmom2008]

Don't forget all those many fans who passed by the casket. I can see Vernon saying well, let them see him, no one will notice.

You know that Gail was one that passed by twice? She didn't want this known at the time, but she swears he gave her a "thumbs up" as she went by the second time.;);):lol:

[Donut]

You know that Gail was one that passed by twice? She didn't want this known at the time, but she swears he gave her a "thumbs up" as she went by the second time.;);):lol:

Yes, I know. Vernon has always been one of my favorites ;):lol:

[Elvislives72]

Don't forget all those many fans who passed by the casket. I can see Vernon saying well, let them see him, no one will notice. The TCB band along with Kathy Westmoreland the cancer theorist, the reverend, Ann Margaret who played the role of her life, and the list goes on and on...
Must have been like 2000 people involved in it, a portion of them known by not being able to keep their mouth shut.
The TCB band wasn't in attendance. Myrna Smith, Kathy Westmoreland, JD Sumner and The Stamps and Charlie Hodge were the only members from his stage show. Parker didn't want the rest of them there because he felt it would be too emotional on them to handle.

[ehollier]

You know that Gail was one that passed by twice? She didn't want this known at the time, but she swears he gave her a "thumbs up" as she went by the second time.;);):lol:

I had to read this post twice......For a split second, I thought it read that the "thumbs up" was from Elvis himself.....:blink:

[Elvislives72]

Are you for real? :lol::lol:

There are/were witnesses who saw Elvis on the autopsy table. Would they lie??




Mediums like Sylvia Brown and others are fake as a $6.00 - that's a fact. Yes I am and I wasn't referring to the Hollywood mediums like Sylvia Brown. Although she's predicted some scary stuff that's actually come to pass. I know for a fact that paranormalists and mediums are not fake.:mad: You can choose to think they're but I know from experience that they're not.

[Donut]

The TCB band wasn't in attendance. Myrna Smith, Kathy Westmoreland, JD Sumner and The Stamps and Charlie Hodge were the only members from his stage show. Parker didn't want the rest of them there because he felt it would be too emotional on them to handle.

Well thanks for the correction. Just subtract them from the huge number of people that was there that day.

[ehollier]

Yes I am and I wasn't referring to the Hollywood mediums like Sylvia Brown. Although she's predicted some scary stuff that's actually come to pass. I know for a fact that paranormalists and mediums are not fake.:mad: You can choose to think they're but I know from experience that they're not.

Well, thank you for clearing that up for us.

[KPM]

This woman who is making a claim against "Vernons estate"-her own mother has denied her claim. Which will have absolutely no bearing on Elvis's estate.
http://www.wreg.com/global/story.asp?s=9147960&ClientType=Printable
excerpt below:

A lawyer hired to represent Lisa Marie Presley, Bill Bradley, isn't putting much stock in the claim, either.

"We've had at least... at least a dozen people claim they are primary children of Elvis. This is the first child of Vernon we've had," said Bill Bradley.

In court Eliza Presley said she had a DNA sample from one of Elvis' cousins and from an envelope licked by Elvis himself but when pressed, she admitted the envelope was actually licked by a man named Jessie Presley who only claims he's Elvis......

So far The judge in the case has as yet made no rulings on her claim-and she will not rule on whether Elvis is alive because that is not what the lawsuit is about.

[Donut]

In court Eliza Presley said she had a DNA sample from one of Elvis' cousins and from an envelope licked by Elvis himself but when pressed, she admitted the envelope was actually licked by a man named Jessie Presley who only claims he's Elvis.The judge in the case has as yet made no rulings on her claim-and she will not rule on whether Elvis is alive because that is not what the lawsuit is about.

LOL Does that means she is Jessie Presley's daughter or that she is Vernon's sister?

[Merry]

This woman who is making a claim against "Vernons estate"-her own mother has denied her claim.

In court Eliza Presley said she had a DNA sample from one of Elvis' cousins and from an envelope licked by Elvis himself but when pressed, she admitted the envelope was actually licked by a man named Jessie Presley who only claims he's Elvis......

.


I just hope that this woman's behaviour didn't disrupt others too much :'(

Was she a "late entry" from the "crazy people" who seem to appear every August?

Disgusting attention seeking behaviour.

Thanks for posting, Ken.

[Merry]

LOL Does that means she is Jessie Presley's daughter or that she is Vernon's sister?


I'd like to say what I think she is, but I won't. (n)

[Diane]

She's just another sad person needing the attention.

Diane

[presley31]

Guess she got the DNA also from Donna presley

In this latter respect few media outlets have picked up on the other DNA evidence to be offered.......that the DNA tests carried out in Arizona match the genetic make-up of Elvis’ cousin Donna. It is this DNA evidence which is likely to prove the case rather than "Jesse's" DNA.......which is unlikely to be what we are led to believe, and even irrelevant

source:http://www.elvisinfonet.com/eliza_presley.html

[Dino78]

It's funny to see what ideas people get for a little attention and money.
Unfortunately there also people who listen.

[MissyM]

Kinship Analysis - Missing Alleged Father (that would be Vernon)

If samples from the deceased are not readily available then the alleged father's genotype can be reconstructed by testing close relatives. The most straightforward of these tests is a grandpaternity test in which the alleged father's parents are tested. If one or both of his parents are missing, then samples from his siblings or other children can be used and extended typing performed. Any combination of three or four of these close relatives will result in a highly conclusive test. When fewer relatives are available for testing, the ability to provide a conclusive result decreases. Relatives farther removed from the alleged father such as cousins are not related closely enough to provide useful information. One caution to this type of testing is that if the relationships are misrepresented to the laboratory, a false negative may result.

[elvispresleytheking]

OK, sadly, if Elvis is alive, Lisa Marie would have never married Michael Jackson. Plain and simple. I think most of this "Elvis is alive" junk comes from people like me, where they wish it was true, and are not willing to let them go. Then there are those people who do it to make fun of Elvis. And I hope to someday personally hunt down those people.

[TotallyInsane]

OK, sadly, if Elvis is alive, Lisa Marie would have never married Michael Jackson. Plain and simple. I think most of this "Elvis is alive" junk comes from people like me, where they wish it was true, and are not willing to let them go. Then there are those people who do it to make fun of Elvis. And I hope to someday personally hunt down those people.

What are you gonna do with those people when you find them?

[ehollier]

What are you gonna do with those people when you find them?

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[HarborLights]

I feel, and I do not know it for fact, that Elvis was tired of his life. I think he loved his fans yes (I saw someone say that he loved us too much to fake his death) but I feel he hated (deep down) the life we forced upon him. I think that Elvis had a good sense of humor. You never know. I always wondered why Lisa Marie, when confronted with footage of her father, never really cried (I saw her do it once in Elvis By The Presleys). I lost my father in may to Pancreatic Cancer and I cry anytime I look over photos or see a home movie. I guess some people deal with death differently. But I'm 24. She was 9. I had more time with my father than she did. But anyways...I've always wondered and still will. OH and Lisa Marie was an ADULT when she married Michael Jackson. I think Elvis would have respected her decisions...to a certain extent. If he were alive and she wanted to marry michael, she is so head strong ELVIS HIMSELF would not have prevented it. So I wish people would stop saying that.

- Stace

[utmom2008]

I always wondered why Lisa Marie, when confronted with footage of her father, never really cried (I saw her do it once in Elvis By The Presleys). I lost my father in may to Pancreatic Cancer and I cry anytime I look over photos or see a home movie. I guess some people deal with death differently. But I'm 24. She was 9.

- Stace

I think you just answered your own question. There is a huge difference in the emotions of a 9 year old and the emotions of a 24 year old. One is a child...the other is an adult. That's like comparing apples and oranges, it really can't be done.:blush::blush:

[kathy parkinson]

I think you just answered your own question. There is a huge difference in the emotions of a 9 year old and the emotions of a 24 year old. One is a child...the other is an adult. That's like comparing apples and oranges, it really can't be done.:blush::blush:

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[ehollier]

I think you just answered your own question. There is a huge difference in the emotions of a 9 year old and the emotions of a 24 year old. One is a child...the other is an adult. That's like comparing apples and oranges, it really can't be done.:blush::blush:

Also, everyone handles emotions differently. Just because someone doesn't cry buckets doesn't mean that they miss the deceased any less than the person that did cry buckets. We handle death differently. I know someone who will cry at a commercial or book. I also know of some who will not breakdown in public.

[presley31]

I get upset over animals getting hurt or abused, but when it comes to funnerals l don't cry, but l do feel the pain in losing someone.

[Getlo]

I feel, and I do not know it for fact, that Elvis was tired of his life.

You could not possibly know that as fact, unless Elvis told you, or you are Elvis himself.

This is your opinion.

[presley31]

Update

Hi everyone,

As I keep getting asked about the interview I recently did, here's the info you need to view it:

Elvis Alive Story to air on Fox 8.
Recap airs Tues the 18th @ 6 & 10pm
Eliza's interview airs Weds the 19th @ 10pm. Live chat, Q & A session to follow from 11pm-midnite.
Recap of Eliza's story airs Thurs the 20th @ 6pm.
All times are EST.
So, unless you are in the Cleveland, OH viewing area, you can watch live streaming on their website at:

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/

I'd suggest that anyone who's a fan of Elvis' to watch this, it's that important. Don't watch it for me, watch it for him ...

source:http://www.elvisinfonet.com/

[elvispresleytheking]

What are you gonna do with those people when you find them?

Good question, still working on it.

[Donut]

Eliza's interview.

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[MissyM]

In the Fox thing they showed a pix of this Jessie with Ben, Lisa's boy. The Jessie man looked to be in his 70's. But the problem is that Ben is now 15 or 16? So that Jessie would now be about 86. Do the math, doesn't ad up.
I just think it is much easier to pull off an Elvis isn't dead, than for someone to actually fake their own death. Case one involves a handful of people. Case two involves a whole lot more people and some in a very ethical professional field. I know Elvis had clout...but I hardly think he had that much clout!

[KPM]

Its just wishful thinking to believe that Elvis is not deceased.
I know how some want to believe this, everyone wishes he was not gone-but he is. He died and no rumors, no amount of connecting unrelated facts, no faked photos on the tabloid covers will bring him back.

[utmom2008]

Its just wishful thinking to believe that Elvis is not deceased.
I know how some want to believe this, everyone wishes he was not gone-but he is. He died and no rumors, no amount of connecting unrelated facts, no faked photos on the tabloid covers will bring him back.

Absolutely! I just wish they would let the man rest in peace. God bless him.....:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[Diane]

Agreed, after 30 years I'm really tired of several rumors that have gone around about Elvis. The poor guy seemed to be a target for anything and everything.
All he should be remembered for is the joy he gave us in so many ways.

Diane