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MojoElvis
08-22-2008, 10:11 PM
I read in a couple of books that Elvis did liquid cocaine. He does have all the trade marks of someone addicted to it, I used to be addicted to cocaine and at times I thought he was on it but, I always thought that was due to his addiction to medication. I also read somewhere that what he took daily was way more potent than cocaine. I know we all don't know what Elvis did in private but can anyone clear this up for me?
Getlo
08-22-2008, 10:15 PM
This has been done to death here and elsewhere. Let's not start another thread detailing the same old thing.
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=15944&highlight=cocaine
Yes, Elvis did use liquid cocaine, and quite regularly for years. Was he addicted? Not as much as he was to his other stuff. It wasn't a regular part of his drug regimen.
There is nothing else left on the subject matter to say. Let it go.
LtCarman
08-22-2008, 10:20 PM
Didn't Dr. Nick say that the stuff in the cotton balls was actually Lidocaine, not liquid cocaine. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
utmom2008
08-22-2008, 10:49 PM
This has been done to death here and elsewhere. Let's not start another thread detailing the same old thing.
There is nothing else left on the subject matter to say. Let it go.
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
MojoElvis
08-22-2008, 10:49 PM
thank you Getlo
beckelvis
08-23-2008, 05:50 AM
I´m sorry but I´m tired of always be the same.ELVIS was and is KING and we leave most importantly it´s simplicity as a man and his music as an artist ¿who most want?
Diane
08-23-2008, 07:14 AM
It was Lidocaine and non addictive....enough already.
Diane
presley31
08-23-2008, 08:50 AM
I agree diane. enough already and move on to something different instead of elvis on drugs cause he was a great person no matter what he did in his life and l for one love him to pieces and want to give him the respect he deserves.
Sonny
08-23-2008, 09:09 AM
It's true.
We know the stories, or what is made up to make it even worse, or more spectacular for newspapers and tv to sell their stuff.
There is nothing more to tell on this subject.
And to be honest, it's not even that interesting if you ask me.
If he did all that, or did not, I don't care.
If he did, which he probably did, but none of us really know for sure, it will not change anything on how we look upon our man.
And I wanna say, this cocaine story, it was brought to life by Albert Goldman in his book years ago.
That says enough I guess.
Allthough I also think Goldman got a lot right in his book.
We don't like to hear those stories, but we don't have to be ashamed about them either.
It's all part of him being the legend he was, and still is.
Elvisgirl
08-23-2008, 09:47 AM
i agree with all of you....i've had enough of this
The Welz
08-23-2008, 10:03 AM
If you listen to the closing show of the ELVIS SUMMER FESTIVAL 1974 (which was released on a CD called "Desert Storm") it is obvious that Elvis is under the influence of stuff like that. On the tour that followed the Vegas engagement and during the Tahoe engagement that followed the tour one could also get the impression that Elvis used cocaine or some similar kind of stuff. Liquid or not, it was drugs. If you don't like to read that I can recomment the book from Darrin Lee to you in which he tells you the truth about the fall tour of 1974. Very funny.
utmom2008
08-23-2008, 10:28 AM
And I wanna say, this cocaine story, it was brought to life by Albert Goldman in his book years ago.
That says enough I guess.
Allthough I also think Goldman got a lot right in his book.
I think you could be right about Goldman Rene, there was some truth to some of his stories. They were all told in such a vile manner though that he lost all of his credibility. You can't imagine how it made those of us here in the South feel.:blush::blink::blush::blink:
Sonny
08-23-2008, 11:23 AM
I mean, we all now he was on pills or drugs, or whatever.
It never meant nothing to me, not in a way that I liked the man less for it.
Sure, we can discuss it all we want, but it happened.
And we have to live with the fact he was not perfect, but who is?
I wondered, why do us fans, who like the man so much, bring that up everytime?
We know the truth about it, don't we?
And yes, Rosanna, Goldman in fact (if I dare to be honest lol :D) wrote a very good book back then. His big mistake was to be so rude, to write it at that time, in such a foul way.
However, he did have a lot of things right as well. His way of writing them put me off, and everyone who loved Elvis for that matter.
It's about time we look at it in a serious way.
We can now, now that we know all that is said.
And once again, they can write whatever they want, it will not change my mind on Elvis.
And I think that goes for all of us.
Diane
08-23-2008, 11:32 AM
You're absolutely right in all you said Rene. Bad choices of words can make something that did happen sound much worse than it actually was and that's the way Goldman chose to go with his book.
Diane
Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 11:32 AM
A time period where I think he was experimenting with coke was in the September/Ocotber 1974 Circa. If you listen to a show from that tour you can hear in Elvis' voice how he was literally overdoing it quiet abit. Also have heard rumors he did a line or two on July 19th 1975 before his shows in Uniondale. They are exceptionally fine shows without a doubt but it would not surprise me if these rumors indeed turned out to be true. its like Sonny said whether they are true or not, it don't change my personal opinion on Elvis a-tall, because we all know he tried lots of different stuff and it don't matter to me!
Sonny
08-23-2008, 11:34 AM
I honestly believe, until proven wrong, that our man did not sniff a mirrored plate before a show.
It's so not him, know what I mean?
Maybe he used something, but not in a way like that.
Then again, what do we know, and care?
Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 12:33 PM
Agreed Sonny I know what you mean here and I like to believe the same way..
Stryx
08-23-2008, 12:46 PM
I honestly believe, until proven wrong, that our man did not sniff a mirrored plate before a show.
It's so not him, know what I mean?
Maybe he used something, but not in a way like that.
Then again, what do we know, and care?
They were cotton woll balls soaked in the stuff. He would insert them into his nostrils.
Using a piece of mirrored glass and snorting powder.......that would have been a bit 'too street' for Elvis - and we know what he thought of street drugs...
utmom2008
08-23-2008, 01:07 PM
I honestly believe, until proven wrong, that our man did not sniff a mirrored plate before a show.
It's so not him, know what I mean?
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 01:12 PM
They were cotton woll balls soaked in the stuff. He would insert them into his nostrils.
Using a piece of mirrored glass and snorting powder.......that would have been a bit 'too street' for Elvis - and we know what he thought of street drugs...
Apparently Elvis was using that stuff quiet abit during that 5 day tour in December 27th-31st of 1976...would explain alot considering during the summer months of that tours he could hardly keep his eyes open and during this tour hes about to explode with excitement and energy. Someone who goes through that much drastic change in a short matter of months something is indeed really wrong there.
All I can say is I have in the past posted Nicks explanation of the cotton balls that Nick used-why he used them and what was in them, and that it was not cocaine according to him.
Getlo
08-23-2008, 06:56 PM
This has been done to death here and elsewhere. Let's not start another thread detailing the same old thing.
There is nothing else left on the subject matter to say. Let it go.
So much for that ... :rolleyes: ;)
tony70
08-23-2008, 08:49 PM
This has been done to death here and elsewhere. Let's not start another thread detailing the same old thing.
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=15944&highlight=cocaine
Yes, Elvis did use liquid cocaine, and quite regularly for years. Was he addicted? Not as much as he was to his other stuff. It wasn't a regular part of his drug regimen.
There is nothing else left on the subject matter to say. Let it go.
Brother I agree 100% lets let it rest whats done is done
shelley.m.
08-23-2008, 08:52 PM
Don't Go There!!!
tony70
08-23-2008, 08:56 PM
what ever he did , he did, and cant blame him cause of the way he was worked by a certain Col I would of done it too , there's noway that a regular person could keep that pace without something , I'm done talking bout this subject it's over, he was and still is the WORLDS BEST ENTERTAINER and SINGER EVER can I get an AMEN
Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 09:11 PM
what ever he did , he did, and cant blame him cause of the way he was worked by a certain Col I would of done it too , there's noway that a regular person could keep that pace without something , I'm done talking bout this subject it's over, he was and still is the WORLDS BEST ENTERTAINER and SINGER EVER can I get an AMEN
I see your points, but it was him to blame as he had to take responsibily for his own actions....
tony70
08-23-2008, 09:23 PM
I see your points, but it was him to blame as he had to take responsibily for his own actions....
very true but i do look at both sides not saying its right
shelley.m.
08-23-2008, 10:08 PM
Why do people do drugs? It's a means of escape from reality and the pressures of life.If Elvis did do cocaine,it was probably from all the pressure that he was under and he was under a lot of pressure in his life.
Sonny
08-24-2008, 06:19 AM
That cotton ball story could be true, but it also first was mentioned by Albert Goldman...
And how reliable is that source?
Diane
08-24-2008, 06:40 AM
This thread is pointless. As I've posted before Lidocaine (NOT COCAINE) was sold over the counter in a cream form in a tube generally used for rashes, bug bites etc. to cut down itch and swelling. There is a liquid form as well. If Dr. Nick had Elvis use it it was for nasal swelling...NON ADDICTIVE. Look it up..............................!
Diane
Lonniebealestreet
08-24-2008, 08:38 AM
Apparently Elvis was using that stuff quiet abit during that 5 day tour in December 27th-31st of 1976...would explain alot considering during the summer months of that tours he could hardly keep his eyes open and during this tour hes about to explode with excitement and energy. Someone who goes through that much drastic change in a short matter of months something is indeed really wrong there.
Bradley,
What makes this apparent? By that I mean, who has made this claim?
The reason I ask is because I have openly speculated about that on a couple of occasions in the past, the first time a number of years ago on another message board and I just wonder if my musings have contributed to some assumptions. I am not trying to give myself credit; on the contrary I hope I haven't perpetuated a myth, especially if it is strictly that.
It was just a matter of taking some of the reports of this (which weren't that specific timing-wise...and I'm not talking about the FBI stuff) and considering things we have seen and heard from this last tour of '76 and thinking that maybe it added up.
But unless someone has some firsthand knowledge of this, that's all we are doing here. It is certainly acceptable to talk about because we discuss all aspects of Elvis' life and career here, but we do need to think about how valuable it is to just keep speculating on such a subject. I realize that not all of us have been exposed to all these conversations before. So now we have an older thread revived and have covered the bases pretty well, as I see it...and I appreciate the suggestions that we now let it go.
utmom2008
08-24-2008, 10:04 AM
So now we have an older thread revived and have covered the bases pretty well, as I see it...and I appreciate the suggestions that we now let it go.
(y)(y)(y)(y) :notworthy:king::notworthy:king:
fillaelvis
08-24-2008, 11:59 AM
I cant imagine Elvis took cocaine. That was not his business. He was not a junkie. He was serious about being a star. ALWAYS!
tony70
08-24-2008, 10:00 PM
Why do people do drugs? It's a means of escape from reality and the pressures of life.If Elvis did do cocaine,it was probably from all the pressure that he was under and he was under a lot of pressure in his life.
took the words right out of my mouth
Unchained Melody
08-24-2008, 10:07 PM
Bradley,
What makes this apparent? By that I mean, who has made this claim?
The reason I ask is because I have openly speculated about that on a couple of occasions in the past, the first time a number of years ago on another message board and I just wonder if my musings have contributed to some assumptions. I am not trying to give myself credit; on the contrary I hope I haven't perpetuated a myth, especially if it is strictly that.
It was just a matter of taking some of the reports of this (which weren't that specific timing-wise...and I'm not talking about the FBI stuff) and considering things we have seen and heard from this last tour of '76 and thinking that maybe it added up.
But unless someone has some firsthand knowledge of this, that's all we are doing here. It is certainly acceptable to talk about because we discuss all aspects of Elvis' life and career here, but we do need to think about how valuable it is to just keep speculating on such a subject. I realize that not all of us have been exposed to all these conversations before. So now we have an older thread revived and have covered the bases pretty well, as I see it...and I appreciate the suggestions that we now let it go.
Lamar Fike talks about on the Final Days OF Elvis documentary of Elvis would have those cotton balls soaked and he would use those and stay high for hours. Its said that Elvis would say it helped his throat for his singing but Lamar said it would keep him high for hours.
Listening to those shows though, I think he was helped with a boost of energy, and it had to be more than just the motivation of having Ginger Alden on his side to give him that extra boost of energy.
samiam125
08-25-2008, 12:56 AM
I cant imagine Elvis took cocaine. That was not his business. He was not a junkie. He was serious about being a star. ALWAYS!
IMO Elvis was a junkie. He was addicted to prescription drugs.. isn't the definition of a junkie "a narcotics addict" ?
Unchained Melody
08-25-2008, 01:02 AM
Why do people do drugs? It's a means of escape from reality and the pressures of life.If Elvis did do cocaine,it was probably from all the pressure that he was under and he was under a lot of pressure in his life.
Everyday people are under pressure that don't mean they turn to drugs, which Elvis did.
Unchained Melody
08-25-2008, 01:04 AM
IMO Elvis was a junkie. He was addicted to prescription drugs.. isn't the definition of a junkie "a narcotics addict" ?
Sadly he was. Don't have to be street drugs, Elvis didn't need street drugs as his medication that he was being prescribed was just has hard as street drugs. Do you know what Dilaudid is. For terminal cancer patients, and Elvis was using this stuff everyday in the end.
MitsuharuSan
08-25-2008, 03:39 AM
I don't know what is more sad: Elvis on drugs or fans trying to find excuses for that. IMO, I guess it's really the second one.
Sorry, but there are NO excuses for drug use. I have serious problems in my life and I've passed by a lot of hard times to this very day and I never, EVER, took drugs. You can say that it was harder for Elvis, that there was the Colonel and things like that, but only I know what the hell I've passed by and I really can say that it's even a miracle that I'm here today.
Now... Elvis is the King, the only one, and I love him. But he was a man. He did what he did and we can't change it! Get over it. The man had his flaws!
Unchained Melody
08-25-2008, 03:43 AM
Now... Elvis is the King, the only one, and I love him. But he was a man. He did what he did and we can't change it! Get over it. The man had his flaws!
It really comes down to that....(y)
Getlo
08-25-2008, 04:43 AM
He was not a junkie.
Really?
Define "junkie".
presley31
08-25-2008, 06:24 AM
Bradley,
What makes this apparent? By that I mean, who has made this claim?
The reason I ask is because I have openly speculated about that on a couple of occasions in the past, the first time a number of years ago on another message board and I just wonder if my musings have contributed to some assumptions. I am not trying to give myself credit; on the contrary I hope I haven't perpetuated a myth, especially if it is strictly that.
It was just a matter of taking some of the reports of this (which weren't that specific timing-wise...and I'm not talking about the FBI stuff) and considering things we have seen and heard from this last tour of '76 and thinking that maybe it added up.
But unless someone has some firsthand knowledge of this, that's all we are doing here. It is certainly acceptable to talk about because we discuss all aspects of Elvis' life and career here, but we do need to think about how valuable it is to just keep speculating on such a subject. I realize that not all of us have been exposed to all these conversations before. So now we have an older thread revived and have covered the bases pretty well, as I see it...and I appreciate the suggestions that we now let it go.
great post bobby (y)(y)
MojoElvis
08-25-2008, 07:31 AM
I don't how this topic got this far, I got my answer on the 1st page.
presley31
08-25-2008, 08:31 AM
I don't how this topic got this far, I got my answer on the 1st page.
every topic seems to get OFF TOPIC alot here;)
marijaep
08-25-2008, 08:37 AM
every topic seems to get OFF TOPIC alot here;)
It's hard to keep a thread from going off topic. Especially this kind of threads where everything's been already said and discussed millions of times before.
presley31
08-25-2008, 08:38 AM
It's hard to keep a thread from going off topic. Especially this kind of threads where everything's been already said and discussed millions of times before.
your right, but still gets on your nerves all this back and fourth stuff.
utmom2008
08-25-2008, 09:51 AM
I don't how this topic got this far, I got my answer on the 1st page.
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Unique Dog
08-25-2008, 11:33 AM
Didn't Dr. Nick say that the stuff in the cotton balls was actually Lidocaine, not liquid cocaine. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, it was lidocaine. NOT cocaine.
Unique Dog
08-25-2008, 11:39 AM
Lamar Fike talks about on the Final Days OF Elvis documentary of Elvis would have those cotton balls soaked and he would use those and stay high for hours. Its said that Elvis would say it helped his throat for his singing but Lamar said it would keep him high for hours.
Listening to those shows though, I think he was helped with a boost of energy, and it had to be more than just the motivation of having Ginger Alden on his side to give him that extra boost of energy.
Lamar Fike??? You are using this lying --- as a reliable source for this?? :angry:
Stryx
08-25-2008, 12:57 PM
In the absence of any of us being with Elvis for that period of time, I think Fike is a reliable source.
Can you point towards an interview where he has blatently lied about Elvis?
Lamar Fike??? You are using this lying --- as a reliable source for this?? :angry:
MitsuharuSan
08-25-2008, 08:39 PM
In the absence of any of us being with Elvis for that period of time, I think Fike is a reliable source.
Can you point towards an interview where he has blatently lied about Elvis?
You can bet that everytime he said something "bad" about Elvis will be used to answer your question...Elvis is God, don't You know that? :P
You can bet that everytime he said something "bad" about Elvis will be used to answer your question...Elvis is God, don't You know that?
Yes. Because anyone who thinks that a member of the MM might have less than perfect recall, or might have an axe to grind on a particular subject, necessarily believes that Elvis is a flawless God.
With respect to Lamar stretching the truth at times, there's this thread (you'll have to read down to King Creole's comments at least):
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=16054&highlight=bego
There's also Lamar's claim that he met Elvis at Sun in 1954 - this has been discussed on FECC, and I haven't figured out how to link the article and the discussion, but if you search for Fike and Phillips on FECC you'll pull up the thread (Dr. John Carpenter corrects a few of Lamar's facts in that one).
Regarding what was on those cotton balls Elvis used, Dr. Nick, who also was there, apparently offers a different account than Lamar.
Which often is the way it is in the Elvis world.
Since we're on the subject of Lamar anyway, I might as well ask this here.
Is this account of Lamar introducing Priscilla to Elvis in Germany accurate?
http://www.armyarcherd.com/2008/04/how-priscilla-d.html
Brian
08-25-2008, 09:37 PM
Since we're on the subject of Lamar anyway, I might as well ask this here.
Is this account of Lamar introducing Priscilla to Elvis in Germany accurate?
http://www.armyarcherd.com/2008/04/how-priscilla-d.html
Hi nyc
I always thought it was Currie Grant that introduced Priscilla to Elvis
I always thought it was Currie Grant that introduced Priscilla to Elvis
That's what I thought, too. I assumed Grant was reliable about that much - although apparently Suzanne Finstad made a big mistake relying on his story beyond that in Child Bride.
The Welz
08-25-2008, 10:11 PM
I have the strong suspicion, that some people around here have a problem with the fact that Elvis was a junkie. That doesn not mean that he was sitting in a dirty street corner with a needle in his arm. Elvis was a junkie-deluxe. He had his own doctors and his own nurses and his own people to give him the stuff he was addicted to. He had people giving him the shots in his back or hip and he really believed that he wasn't a junkie because those people shot up in the main line. But in fact, Elvis had to take a lot more stuff to get the same effect by the way he used it. He was addicted and he used liquid cocane. It's a fact and we have to accept it. I truely believe that he was under the influence of uppers during the tour in December 1976 and when you listen to the recording of the Birmingham show it is more than obvious. But all that does not make his efforts as an entertainer or singer smaller. He was a human being and he had certain problems and limitations. That's all and I can live with the fact of being a fan of a junkie. I may not like what Elvis did and maybe I wouldn't have liked him as a person, but as a singer he was just great and he was (at least to me) the greatest entertainer of the last century. And that's enough for me to be a fan.
Unchained Melody
08-26-2008, 12:08 AM
Lamar Fike??? You are using this lying --- as a reliable source for this?? :angry:
Well you know, Lamar was around for many years and had acess to Elvis so I'm sure its pretty reliable.
Getlo
08-26-2008, 05:19 AM
(Dr. John Carpenter corrects a few of Lamar's facts in that one).
Using Carpenter as any sort of arbiter of Elvis knowledge will only get you into trouble. He's been proven wrong himself so many times that it's beyond a joke.
Using Carpenter as any sort of arbiter of Elvis knowledge will only get you into trouble. He's been proven wrong himself so many times that it's beyond a joke.
Nevertheless, he seems to be correct that Lamar is somewhat less than truthful about meeting Elvis at Sun in 1954.
Brian
08-26-2008, 09:08 AM
Nevertheless, he seems to be correct that Lamar is somewhat less than truthful about meeting Elvis at Sun in 1954.
I heard once that Lamar first met Elvis in 1955 and then other time it was 1957 but I wasn't there so I don't know.
Lamar has an entertaining way of telling a story though for me he gives too much information sometimes. If you know what I mean.
presley31
08-26-2008, 09:16 AM
I heard once that Lamar first met Elvis in 1955 and then other time it was 1957 but I wasn't there so I don't know.
Lamar has an entertaining way of telling a story though for me he gives too much information sometimes. If you know what I mean.
lamer seems to have to many stories that don't seem to end up;)
Diane
08-26-2008, 10:14 AM
He sure does Jen and I know I read in one of the MM's books that Lamar met Elvis later in the 50's and just moved on in with him. One day Elvis said "don't you think it's time you go?" but Lamar wanted to stay and stay he did. Elvis never did bring it up again.
Diane
Kentucky Rain
08-26-2008, 07:14 PM
Ok..so I'll ask my question in the Cocaine thread, as my ? is about drugs.
I've 5 Elvis dvds. Comeback Special, TTWII, Aloha and I believe his last two concerts (or pretty close to his last).
Many seem to somehow know which concerts he was on drugs. The last two concerts, I'd say yes..probably because the time in his life.
Personally, I think the Aloha one (which is not a favourite of mine..personal opinion but Elvis shows too much "attitude" with the audience compared to the "laid back" exchange of the audience in TTWII)he looks like someone who is either on drugs or someone who has been on drugs and is struggling to maintain w/o drugs...
I also do not understand why it is such a "big deal" (if i may use that phrase) to so many that he did take drugs. Unless they are the fans who really believed back in the old days that a person could continually perform, tour etc.etc. was a superhuman being..and that image was shattered by people saying he took drugs. "image ~dashed~. of an artist ..
so getting back to my ?..of those dvds..which or all were drugged? I don't see it (my opinion) on comeback, nor TTWII..then again I am not an expert on Elvis by any means.
please spare me any comments such as.."do you really need to ask" etc.etc.etc.
TotallyInsane
08-26-2008, 07:35 PM
I don't know if Elvis did but I never have!! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
The King's Queen
08-26-2008, 07:42 PM
I don't know if Elvis did but I never have!! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Brian
08-26-2008, 07:59 PM
Ok..so I'll ask my question in the Cocaine thread, as my ? is about drugs.
I've 5 Elvis dvds. Comeback Special, TTWII, Aloha and I believe his last two concerts (or pretty close to his last).
Many seem to somehow know which concerts he was on drugs. The last two concerts, I'd say yes..probably because the time in his life.
Personally, I think the Aloha one (which is not a favourite of mine..personal opinion but Elvis shows too much "attitude" with the audience compared to the "laid back" exchange of the audience in TTWII)he looks like someone who is either on drugs or someone who has been on drugs and is struggling to maintain w/o drugs...
I also do not understand why it is such a "big deal" (if i may use that phrase) to so many that he did take drugs. Unless they are the fans who really believed back in the old days that a person could continually perform, tour etc.etc. was a superhuman being..and that image was shattered by people saying he took drugs. "image ~dashed~. of an artist ..
so getting back to my ?..of those dvds..which or all were drugged? I don't see it (my opinion) on comeback, nor TTWII..then again I am not an expert on Elvis by any means.
please spare me any comments such as.."do you really need to ask" etc.etc.etc.
I don't think he was actually on drugs for the actual Aloha concert. the show was timed to last 60 minutes because that's how long they had the Satelite for and Elvis was being seen by a huge worldwide audience so he was nervous and that's probably why he didn't interact with the audience very much. I do know he got stoned right after. I don't know if he was on drugs for Elvis in Concert I know he was really into drugs at that point so I guess it's possibe but I don't think he was actually high for the taping. TTWII I don't think he was on drugs. for the 68 special he wasn't. Elvis was high on drugs for some concerts but for the ones you mentioned I don't think he was.
Kentucky Rain
08-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Thank you for the answers, thus far.
Brian..what I meant in the non interaction w/the fans in Aloha, I failed to mention to me he appeared arrogant with the fans, perhaps he was nervous as you said.
I'd first bought Comeback and really love that dvd. The next dvd I bought was Aloha ..I viewed the dvds once and again only my opinion..was really "turned off" by those dvds..again because of the "image" of arrogance and such. Since then, maybe twice I've watched the rehearsal dvd.
A few months later I finally found TTWII dvd and was amazed of the way his "image" was then. The high energy the style..an artist who really seemed to enjoy himself and his fans. I've not yet found Elvis on Tour/Concert?
I searched for the TTWII dvd as I'd heard so much about it and was trying to figure out (for myself).."what was the difference or what was in b/w Comeback and Aloha. As I was amazed at the vast differences in his style in Comeback and Aloha. Not his physical appearance in as much as the "attitude".
Again, thank you for your opinion.
Brian
08-27-2008, 08:16 AM
Thank you for the answers, thus far.
Brian..what I meant in the non interaction w/the fans in Aloha, I failed to mention to me he appeared arrogant with the fans, perhaps he was nervous as you said.
I'd first bought Comeback and really love that dvd. The next dvd I bought was Aloha ..I viewed the dvds once and again only my opinion..was really "turned off" by those dvds..again because of the "image" of arrogance and such. Since then, maybe twice I've watched the rehearsal dvd.
A few months later I finally found TTWII dvd and was amazed of the way his "image" was then. The high energy the style..an artist who really seemed to enjoy himself and his fans. I've not yet found Elvis on Tour/Concert?
I searched for the TTWII dvd as I'd heard so much about it and was trying to figure out (for myself).."what was the difference or what was in b/w Comeback and Aloha. As I was amazed at the vast differences in his style in Comeback and Aloha. Not his physical appearance in as much as the "attitude".
Again, thank you for your opinion.
He doesn't come off as arrogant to me on Aloha I just think the concert was a very professional one and that he had to have a certain number of songs in the set list and the show couldn't go over 60 minutes because if it did the satelite would cut off as they only had it for an hour.
In the 68 comeback he doesn't appear arrogant to me either.
TTWII they filmed him during his usual Las Vegas engagement where he actually jokes with the audience and interacts with them more
It's interesting to me that you like TTWII more than the 68 special because most fans don't.
utmom2008
08-27-2008, 09:36 AM
It's interesting to me that you like TTWII more than the 68 special because most fans don't.
I actually prefer TTWII over the 68 special.:blink::blush::blink::blush:
marijaep
08-27-2008, 09:41 AM
I actually prefer TTWII over the 68 special.:blink::blush::blink::blush:
Me too (y)
I do too, if we're talking the entire 68 Special compared to TTWII.
The black leather shows in the 68 Special are fantastic - and have aged extremely well.
The staged production numbers in the 68 Special haven't aged as well, though.
ehollier
08-27-2008, 10:45 AM
I do too, if we're talking the entire 68 Special compared to TTWII.
The black leather shows in the 68 Special are fantastic - and have aged extremely well.
The staged production numbers in the 68 Special haven't aged as well, though.
I would have to agree in that the 2 sit-down numbers are the best, THE ABSOLUTE BEST!!! Actually, the first sit-down show, in its entirity, was better than all of the other parts and sequences in the '68 Special.
Brian
08-27-2008, 11:59 AM
I do too, if we're talking the entire 68 Special compared to TTWII.
The black leather shows in the 68 Special are fantastic - and have aged extremely well.
The staged production numbers in the 68 Special haven't aged as well, though.
Hi nyc
I was mainly talking about the 68 special minus the road medley (Although I do wish Elvis had recorded a full version of Nothingville) fans love it especially the sit down shows and most of them will say they like it better than TTWII
For me I liked TTWII okay but thought the original should have concentrated more on Elvis and his music like the special edition did instead of all the fans.
I would have liked TTWII better if they filmed it during one of the first two engagements. Some fans do even like the road medley for the 68 special but I thought it was stupid
beckelvis
08-27-2008, 12:08 PM
In My Opinion Si´s Topic Was A Cocaine Herevy,or Orther One Already Tires Me A Bit,it Is Necessary To Accept That If It Towards,but I Know It He Recognizes Him As Your Music,no For Being An Addict To Something,in Addittion.for Me He Is One Of The Major Singers Of All The Times And The King Of The World.
Diane
08-27-2008, 02:57 PM
I much prefer TTWII to the '68 Special because he was so relaxed and casual while in the '68 you could tell he was quite nervous...some of the time. I loved the Aloha but did find he was more professional and less personal with his audience although I'm sure that's how he was meant to be for that particular concert.
I could see no evidence of drug taking in any of these specials. I'm not that confidant about the EIC though.
Diane
utmom2008
08-27-2008, 03:03 PM
I much prefer TTWII to the '68 Special because he was so relaxed and casual while in the '68 you could tell he was quite nervous...some of the time. I loved the Aloha but did find he was more professional and less personal with his audience although I'm sure that's how he was meant to be for that particular concert.
I could see no evidence of drug taking in any of these specials. I'm not that confidant about the EIC though.
Diane
As usual....(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Kentucky Rain
08-27-2008, 06:47 PM
I'd probably listened to Elvis for almost a year before I bought the Comeback Special, only seeing pictures of him previously on the net. The sitdown sessions actually increased my interest and future purchases etc. of Elvis music (his previous music and future). As I'd never seen Elvis actually "move", other than an Old Ed Sullivan show many years ago, I very much liked...(understatement..lol) the "rock/medley of songs he performed. Tho, the audience appeared to be "planted" around the stage..many pastels of colours, only a few fans screaming. When I view any artist, I also look at the audience. Many artists use "plants" to obtain the type of fan following they wish the public to view.
All of the TTWII concert I love.
Arrogance..(my perception only perhaps) on Aloha..for example Suspicious Minds..ad lib into the song "well not much" after the line "I never lied to you"..perhaps that was meant to be entertaining..I took it as an arrogant statement. Also Elvis to me just had "this look" on his face during that whole concert of "distance". Again, only my personal opinion.
Yes, Elvis was a tremendous entertainer and no it makes no difference to me if or what he "took" (drugs). I do not base my interests in artists on drugs at all.
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