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Donut
08-19-2008, 10:14 AM
Why is Graceland so important to you? I know Elvis lived there and was his favorite among his houses but, how is it fans are already thinking of what will happen with it when Lisa die, or what Sillerman will do around it in a near future? :blink: Elvis died and he doesnīt need it anymore, besides there is the Elvis birthplace to see too wich I found more emotive to visit than Graceland. Why is so important to you who owns it? The house is a museum for a number of years now and his heir doesnīt want it to live there. Are not more important to you his music and his work than the material things he left behind when he died?
Iīd like to know why you think this way.

john carpenter
08-19-2008, 10:27 AM
I, for one think Graceland is important because it's where Elvis felt more at home (besides Audoban) And it's a place Elvis called home for twenty years. I went to his birthplace, and i didn't feel connected to Elvis like i did when i went to Graceland. He's buried their with his family after all! I wonder Donut if Lisa will be buried at Graceland or in a hollywood Cemetery. I wouldn't be surprised if Priscilla requests to be buried there.

utmom2008
08-19-2008, 10:34 AM
I agree with JC..I have never felt the connection at Tupelo that I feel at GL. I mean that in the literal sense..I actually feel something at GL..it happens as I pass through the gates. Diane Sawyer told on GMA that many fans consider it a "spiritual journey" and I would have to totally agree with that assesment. I find an inner peace, a calmness that I don't find anywhere else. In the 1st few years that GL was open there was such a feeling of "his presence".....now it's a very "spiritual presence".:blush::blush:

LianaKaralivanou
08-19-2008, 10:35 AM
When someone you love very much dies, you must care about his personal things and belongings that he/she left behind. I have always felt Elvis as a member of my family, no matter how this phrase may sounds to you. I know that Elvis is not alive any more so he doesn't need all this stuff but that doesn't mean that I want to see his home, his cars and everything once owned to be destroyed or be owned by bad people. He used to love these things. He touched these things. There's no harm in being a little more sensitive and emotional. For example: When my father died, I kept his watch and some of his clothes. In that way I feel closer to him. Why should I throw all these things away when they make me feel so much better??

utmom2008
08-19-2008, 10:38 AM
There's no harm in being a little more sensitive and emotional. For example: When my father died, I kept his watch and some of his clothes. In that way I feel closer to him. Why should I throw all these things away when they make me feel so much better??

I did the EXACT same thing with my Dad's things as well Liana. There was a watch he had that was his favorite...I keep it in my jewelery box. I see it every morning when I reach for my own watch..and it reminds me that he is always with me.:blush:

LianaKaralivanou
08-19-2008, 10:45 AM
I did the EXACT same thing with my Dad's things as well Liana. There was a watch he had that was his favorite...I keep it in my jewelery box. I see it every morning when I reach for my own watch..and it reminds me that he is always with me.:blush:


Exactly, Rosanne! Some things have this "sentimental value" and must never be thrown away or destroyed. If they could talk, they would have said so many things about the owner!! :D

Donut
08-19-2008, 10:49 AM
I didnīt feel that connection you say with Gracenad the times I have been there. Tupelo to me means the roots of Elvis where he was born and raised by his parents and where he didnīt have to live up to an image yet.

Donut
08-19-2008, 10:53 AM
Exactly, Rosanne! Some things have this "sentimental value" and must never be thrown away or destroyed. If they could talk, they would have said so many things about the owner!! :D

You are going to the extremes I think. I never said Graceland should be destroyed or his personal things, but I donīt understand why fans care that much about who will own the house in 30 years. Iīm more worried about if Iīll have a house to live in 30 years...

LianaKaralivanou
08-19-2008, 11:00 AM
You are going to the extremes I think. I never said Graceland should be destroyed or his personal things, but I donīt understand why fans care that much about who will own the house in 30 years. Iīm more worried about if Iīll have a house to live in 30 years...


I think now, YOU're taking it too personal. Don't compare two different things. Your life to Elvis' life! This is too much. Having someone to admire is completely different with what you're doing in your personal life. I gave my answer in my first post. I only care about the things Elvis once loved. Nothing more, nothing less.

kathy parkinson
08-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Graceland is a tangible link to the legend who lived there,

Donut
08-19-2008, 11:13 AM
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I think now, YOU're taking it too personal. Don't compare two different things. Your life to Elvis' life! This is too much. Having someone to admire is completely different with what you're doing in your personal life. I gave my answer in my first post. I only care about the things Elvis once loved. Nothing more, nothing less.

Excuse me? Itīs you who was relating this to your private life in your first post.:doh:

Have a nice day.

john carpenter
08-19-2008, 11:17 AM
I did the EXACT same thing with my Dad's things as well Liana. There was a watch he had that was his favorite...I keep it in my jewelery box. I see it every morning when I reach for my own watch..and it reminds me that he is always with me.:blush:
I agree with Rosanne ( of course) When my Grandpa died in 2005, i was given his pajamas. I know he will never wear them again but, i feel a connection with him because he owned them and was wearing them when he died!When i sat in Elvis's jeep, i felt connected with Elvis. I learned later the jeep wasn't used in Blue Hawaii, what a bummer.:king:

SleepyJack
08-19-2008, 11:21 AM
Graceland is a very big part of the Elvis Presley story and will always be an important place to those who care about him, to what degree we care about Graceland is down to ourselves as people,it will mean more to some,less to others just like all other things in life. It would be my hope that it doesn`t change too much with all the new business ideas etc.......but,sadly, very few things last forever on this earth....so basically if it means a lot to you...go and see it....pretty simple!!

LianaKaralivanou
08-19-2008, 11:23 AM
Excuse me? Itīs you who was relating this to your private life in your first post.:doh:

Have a nice day.


Why are you getting angry? Take it easy. I didn't offend you or something. Maybe you're right. I did relate my personal life to Elvis's but at least I did it in a sentimental way not a financial one! And anyway, if you don't like Graceland, don't visit it! But you can't make other people stop caring about it!!

midnight
08-19-2008, 11:24 AM
I went to GL in 1983 after a very difficult time in my life. I was actually sent there because i had lost someone very important in my life and i was having a very difficult time coping with it. Everyone knew about my love for Elvis and this may of been a way to make me feel better ! GL at that time was so untouched!! His cars was still in the carport and I know some of the things there at that time were still only touched by him. I felt him there that day. Around every corner, in the breeze, and in the rustling of the trees, his spirit was there. His presence was at his tombstone. I felt such peace that day, something that I thought i would never feel again. I knew at that moment i would be Ok. I never saw Elvis in the flesh but I felt his spirit! It was an experience I will never forget. It was something that would of never have happened anywhere else! Being at GL gave me such "inner Peace". I did not need any grief counseling after that, GL was everything I needed!:D

Brian
08-19-2008, 11:26 AM
I, for one think Graceland is important because it's where Elvis felt more at home (besides Audoban) And it's a place Elvis called home for twenty years. I went to his birthplace, and i didn't feel connected to Elvis like i did when i went to Graceland. He's buried their with his family after all! I wonder Donut if Lisa will be buried at Graceland or in a hollywood Cemetery. I wouldn't be surprised if Priscilla requests to be buried there.

Hi David

Lisa and Priscilla will probably be buried in L.A. as they are hollywood people and they enjoy that scene, as do Lisa's children.

utmom2008
08-19-2008, 11:31 AM
I went to GL in 1983 after a very difficult time in my life. I was actually sent there because i had lost someone very important in my life and i was having a very difficult time coping with it. Everyone knew about my love for Elvis and this may of been a way to make me feel better ! GL at that time was so untouched!! His cars was still in the carport and I know some of the things there at that time were still only touched by him. I felt him there that day. Around every corner, in the breeze, and in the rustling of the trees, his spirit was there. His presence was at his tombstone. I felt such peace that day, something that I thought i would never feel again. I knew at that moment i would be Ok. I never saw Elvis in the flesh but I felt his spirit! It was an experience I will never forget. It was something that would of never have happened anywhere else! Being at GL gave me such "inner Peace". I did not need any grief counseling after that, GL was everything I needed!:D

Great post Kim..that's what I was trying to convey earlier. There is "something" there, for me at least...I feel it. On another level...it's a connection for me to my past. To be around all the jumpsuits, many of which I saw him wear, takes me back to a happy time.:blush:

Donut
08-19-2008, 11:31 AM
Why are you getting angry? Take it easy. I didn't offend you or something. Maybe you're right. I did relate my personal life to Elvis's but at least I did it in a sentimental way not a financial one! And anyway, if you don't like Graceland, don't visit it! But you can't make other people stop caring about it!!

Oh My as I said have a nice day.

presley31
08-19-2008, 11:32 AM
Hi David

Lisa and Priscilla will probably be buried in L.A. as they are hollywood people and they enjoy that scene, as do Lisa's children.

I think you are wrong there brian, lisa hates LA and has stated that in lots of her interviews and as for priscilla l think she will remain in LA

SleepyJack
08-19-2008, 11:36 AM
And there it is!!.....It`s all right there in those two posts.....a beautiful,sentimental view from Midnight and the ongoing real-world side by Brian!!!!......Pick the one that suits you best and all your questions about Graceland will be made simple!..........Personally I prefer the picture painted by midnight of a place where a bit of the mystical Presley magic can still be found....the ongoing "who will be buried where..??" type of thing holds no interest to me........but remember...that`s just my opinion!!!

LianaKaralivanou
08-19-2008, 11:39 AM
I went to GL in 1983 after a very difficult time in my life. I was actually sent there because i had lost someone very important in my life and i was having a very difficult time coping with it. Everyone knew about my love for Elvis and this may of been a way to make me feel better ! GL at that time was so untouched!! His cars was still in the carport and I know some of the things there at that time were still only touched by him. I felt him there that day. Around every corner, in the breeze, and in the rustling of the trees, his spirit was there. His presence was at his tombstone. I felt such peace that day, something that I thought i would never feel again. I knew at that moment i would be Ok. I never saw Elvis in the flesh but I felt his spirit! It was an experience I will never forget. It was something that would of never have happened anywhere else! Being at GL gave me such "inner Peace". I did not need any grief counseling after that, GL was everything I needed!:D



Beautifully said, midnight. You touched me with your post...

presley31
08-19-2008, 11:46 AM
I haven't been to graceland yet or even to memphis but l still feel thats the only connection to elvis and just being there will being you closer to him than visiting anywhere else.

Brian
08-19-2008, 11:48 AM
I think you are wrong there brian, lisa hates LA and has stated that in lots of her interviews and as for priscilla l think she will remain in LA

no I don't think I'm wrong, I know what Lisa says about hating L.A. but she has lived there on a permanent basis since she was 4 and the scientology celeb center is there and I see her going to parties with her celebrity and scientology friends. she raised her kids there and continues to live there with her husband Michael and will most likely raise her twins there as well.
Her mother's side of the family all live out there.

presley31
08-19-2008, 11:55 AM
no I don't think I'm wrong, I know what Lisa says about hating L.A. but she has lived there on a permanent basis since she was 4 and the scientology celeb center is there and I see her going to parties with her celebrity and scientology friends. she raised her kids there and continues to live there with her husband Michael and will most likely raise her twins there as well.
Her mother's side of the family all live out there.

Lisa hates it but she isn't moving anytime soon cause she is well protected in the area she living right now and just lives close to her mothers place, but lisa did look for houses in Ireland not to long ago. I don't think she would uplift her children from there either.

Brian
08-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Lisa hates it but she isn't moving anytime soon cause she is well protected in the area she living right now and just lives close to her mothers place, but lisa did look for houses in Ireland not to long ago. I don't think she would uplift her children from there either.


Hi Jen

Lisa was dropped by Capitol a while ago and she was supposedly looking for another one but hasn't found one yet, I think she'll eventually get another record deal. Most of the major record labels are based or have offices in Los Angeles as well as the independent ones. Another reason why I think she'll stay in L.A.

presley31
08-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Hi Jen

Lisa was dropped by Capitol a while ago and she was supposedly looking for another one but hasn't found one yet, I think she'll eventually get another record deal. Most of the major record labels are based or have offices in Los Angeles as well as the independent ones. Another reason why I think she'll stay in L.A.

Hi brian

That was news to me cause lisa was working on her third cd before she got pregant so l figure she had a record deal already.

TotallyInsane
08-19-2008, 06:23 PM
She was dropped by Capital and when she's ready to release her third album will find another one. She does not like California. She has a house in Hawaii and just recently said she would like to move to Connecticut. So, how knows where she'll end up - maybe she'll have a house anywhere she wants to visit!!

Ronn
08-19-2008, 07:23 PM
I haven't been to the USA, much less Graceland, but I would like to visit Graceland someday. For fans like me, who never saw Elvis alive it would provide the ultimate connection to him (aside from the music, of course). So I guess Graceland is important because it is where Elvis actually lived and died, very much like old castles of long ago kings and queens. It provides testament to what and who they really are. And for Elvis, it gives us fans a glimpse of who he was as a person.

beckelvis
08-20-2008, 01:16 PM
At last month iīm comeback fro MEMPHIS, ( GRACELAND) is very touching, i have never felt the connection at TUPELO that i feel at GRACELAND in that way i feel closer to him.i miss you ELVIS

Wendy56
08-20-2008, 06:05 PM
For fans like me, who never saw Elvis alive it would provide the ultimate connection to him (...) I guess Graceland is important because it is where Elvis actually lived and died(...) It provides testament to what and who they really are. And for Elvis, it gives us fans a glimpse of who he was as a person.
I agree. (y) Elvis' essence is in Graceland, in his belongings and in the air.

Donut
08-21-2008, 03:38 AM
I wonder Donut if Lisa will be buried at Graceland or in a hollywood Cemetery. I wouldn't be surprised if Priscilla requests to be buried there.

Not that I care but sheīll probably be embalmed and exposed at the Tupperware factory.
I wish her a long and healthy life though but not so long that I canīt see a balanced biopic about Elvis life.

Teddy
08-21-2008, 04:05 AM
I mean that in the literal sense..I actually feel something at GL..it happens as I pass through the gates. Diane Sawyer told on GMA that many fans consider it a "spiritual journey" and I would have to totally agree with that assesment. I find an inner peace, a calmness that I don't find anywhere else. In the 1st few years that GL was open there was such a feeling of "his presence".....now it's a very "spiritual presence".:blush::blush:

That's right- it's like Cilla is right there with you. :D

Teddy
08-21-2008, 04:08 AM
Not that I care but sheīll probably be embalmed and exposed at the Tupperware factory.
I wish her a long and healthy life though but not so long that I canīt see a balanced biopic about Elvis life.
A few more comments like this and you will leave me no choice but to administer the most vicious scolding to date.
:mad:

Donut
08-21-2008, 04:26 AM
A few more comments like this and you will leave me no choice but to administer the most vicious scolding to date.
:mad:

Why? I wished her a long and healthy life! But now that you mentione it I have seen her made not very well intentioned comments about Elvis so I guess it would be fair if we all could say what we think about her, included you of course ;)

Teddy
08-21-2008, 04:34 AM
You're a deeply naughty person but since you've stimulated my interest I'll spare you this time if you answer a quick question:
What are the best examples of Priscilla making a questionable comment about Elvis?
I'm just curious.

Donut
08-21-2008, 05:06 AM
You're a deeply naughty person but since you've stimulated my interest I'll spare you this time if you answer a quick question:
What are the best examples of Priscilla making a questionable comment about Elvis?I'm just curious.

Ok, even though it doesn't belong here I'll give you my opinion. If you own "Elvis by the Presleys" you can spot some recent examples there. She is quickly to judge Elvis' faithfulness when she was doing the same during their marriage but you can't see her mention it in the dvd. If you add that to the portray she made about him there of a chouvinist, a liar and half out of his mind who saw things that didnīt exist (with I don't say is not true) I think her intentions and comments were highly questionable more of the like of a bitter ex than the keeper of his legacy.I think she has not done a good work as the head of EPE because she is self centered and has focussed it more on his private life and her self success than on Elvis artistic work. She can't have it both ways.

buttonhead
08-21-2008, 05:09 AM
Not that I care but sheīll probably be embalmed and exposed at the Tupperware factory.


:lmfao::lmfao:



IMO, Graceland is still important for Elvis fans to see, especially those who born AFTER Elvis passed away ( like me )... I went there once in December 2006 and It was a little bit strange how that place used to be A house and now a museum... almost every bit of it was as if you were back to the time when Elvis was alive , time stood still . I meant all the furniture and wise were all from the time my mom and dad were young :)

I remember one time on one of the thread , someone asked if Cilla would be buried in Graceland too like Elvis did ? She better NOT. I would think she won't , I mean for the love of God even though she did what she did with Graceland and her face ... I think deep in her heart she still respect and care for Elvis , I don't think she would just request to be buried in Graceland , we'll see.

Teddy
08-21-2008, 05:09 AM
Whereas I, on the other hand, think she has done more to perpetuate a positive image of Elvis throughout the planet than any other living person.

Teddy
08-21-2008, 05:11 AM
Whereas I, on the other hand, think she has done more to perpetuate a positive image of Elvis throughout the planet than any other living person.

Should I have yelled "Fire in the hole" before I posted this?

Donut
08-21-2008, 05:17 AM
Whereas I, on the other hand, think she has done more to perpetuate a positive image of Elvis throughout the planet than any other living person.

Well, we disagree on this then ;). But could you give me some examples of that before this off topic conversation ends?

Teddy
08-21-2008, 05:24 AM
It's obvious and as you've pointed out, wildly off topic so no, I'd better not. ;)

ehollier
08-21-2008, 05:48 AM
Whereas I, on the other hand, think she has done more to perpetuate a positive image of Elvis throughout the planet than any other living person.

Without wanting to start WWIII, I will agree with Teddy that Priscilla has done more to perpetuate Elvis' positive image than anyone else.

Even from the time of their divorce, she could have smeared his name and drug his reputation through the mud countless times, she could have exposed his bizarre lifestyle and drug abuse to the press, but she choose to stay silent. After he died, she went about opening Graceland (although she wanted it to remain closed because she was fiercely private) to his fans and has continued to maintain a very postive image of Elvis rather than focusing on his last crazy drug-induced years.

Getlo
08-21-2008, 05:52 AM
For the last time:

1. Nobody else will ever be buried at Graceland. It is now an historic site. Meditation Garden is full.

2. The house at Tupelo is not the original house. The doorframe of the front entrance is the only part of the original house still in existence. And the house isn't even on the same spot where the original house was. It's several hundred feet away.


Whereas I, on the other hand, think (Priscilla) has done more to perpetuate a positive image of Elvis throughout the planet than any other living person.

Lord help us ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :hmm:

Donut
08-21-2008, 05:52 AM
It's obvious and as you've pointed out, wildly off topic so no, I'd better not. ;)

NO, it's not and your lack for examples prove it. But I won't judge you for that.

Donut
08-21-2008, 06:21 AM
2. The house at Tupelo is not the original house. The doorframe of the front entrance is the only part of the original house still in existence. And the house isn't even on the same spot where the original house was. It's several hundred feet away.


I have heard that before but, didn't Elvis used to take people there to show them where he was born and raised at? Would be a good question to make some of the MM now that I think of it. Maybe Elvis or Vernon commented something about it the times they were there. Not that it would change much how important Tupelo and the modest house he was born at is in the story of Elvis anyway, at least to me.

MissyM
08-21-2008, 06:29 AM
Without wanting to start WWIII, I will agree with Teddy that Priscilla has done more to perpetuate Elvis' positive image than anyone else.

Even from the time of their divorce, she could have smeared his name and drug his reputation through the mud countless times, she could have exposed his bizarre lifestyle and drug abuse to the press, but she choose to stay silent. After he died, she went about opening Graceland (although she wanted it to remain closed because she was fiercely private) to his fans and has continued to maintain a very postive image of Elvis rather than focusing on his last crazy drug-induced years.
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EHollier, I guess I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. Exposing his weaknesses was one way to hurt Elvis after the divorce but going public about their lives was another. She did this interveiw right after the divorce.

(http://cache.search.yahoo.net/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Priscilla+Presley%2C+Ladies+Home+Journal&fr=my-myy&u=www.elvispresleymusic.com.au/articles/1973_august_ladies_home_journal.html&w=priscilla+presley+%22ladies+home+journals%22+%22 ladies+home+journal%22+ladieshomejournal&d=RRuXqBg5RUJg&icp=1&.intl=us

For one thing it is riddled with lies, and two, can you imagine the hurt Elvis felt when he reads how wonderful her life is with out him and with Mike Stone?? Ok so it doesn't outright slam Elvis, but....since I try to see things from a man's point, I'm not so sure what would have hurt him the most. This had to be incredibly painful for him and especially because he was such a private person. And why?? Why do it? I see no good reason on earth what-so-ever to go public. At the time of the divorce Elvis gave her what she wanted and graciously walked away saying nothing about her or their private lives. She should have done the same, that is what he deserved. I'm not sure that because she refrained from "telling all" that I find comfort in her saying anything. It just wasn't fair. No man wants to hear how happy his ex is now that she is free of him and has someone who can make her happy. Just my opinion.

presley31
08-21-2008, 06:32 AM
Is it really so hard for some of you just to accept some fans are going to believe one thing and others think different, its useless trying to change people opinions about things, just except it and movie on. I don't like alot of things in elvis world either, but l have to accept and move on cause there isn't a darn thing anybody can do and another thing why can't we all seem to stay on topic, this isn't about priscila but how come graceland is so inportant to people.

Getlo
08-21-2008, 06:34 AM
I have heard that before but, didn't Elvis used to take people there to show them where he was born and raised at?

Allegedly. But he wouldn't have known or remembered where the original house was. Maybe Vernon did.

Donut
08-21-2008, 06:41 AM
Allegedly. But he wouldn't have known or remembered where the original house was. Maybe Vernon did.

Maybe... he built it and I have seen pics of him sitting in the porch in the late 60's or early 70's.

MissyM
08-21-2008, 06:42 AM
Getlo, sorry he would have because there are still two houses with relatives still living in them right down the street. Amd he had some pictures taken with him in front of the house with other relatives. Yes it looks different but there are enough similarities that he would have known.

Diane
08-21-2008, 06:43 AM
I've never been to Graceland but keep hoping one day I will be able to go there. I hope it stays open for many years to come as it is all we have left of Elvis. and the only place he was happy and called home.

Diane

Getlo
08-21-2008, 06:58 AM
Maybe... he built it and I have seen pics of him sitting in the porch in the late 60's or early 70's.

Yes, the reconstructed house, not the original.

ehollier
08-21-2008, 07:03 AM
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EHollier, I guess I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. Exposing his weaknesses was one way to hurt Elvis after the divorce but going public about their lives was another. She did this interveiw right after the divorce.

(http://cache.search.yahoo.net/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Priscilla+Presley%2C+Ladies+Home+Journal&fr=my-myy&u=www.elvispresleymusic.com.au/articles/1973_august_ladies_home_journal.html&w=priscilla+presley+%22ladies+home+journals%22+%22 ladies+home+journal%22+ladieshomejournal&d=RRuXqBg5RUJg&icp=1&.intl=us

For one thing it is riddled with lies, and two, can you imagine the hurt Elvis felt when he reads how wonderful her life is with out him and with Mike Stone?? Ok so it doesn't outright slam Elvis, but....since I try to see things from a man's point, I'm not so sure what would have hurt him the most. This had to be incredibly painful for him and especially because he was such a private person. And why?? Why do it? I see no good reason on earth what-so-ever to go public. At the time of the divorce Elvis gave her what she wanted and graciously walked away saying nothing about her or their private lives. She should have done the same, that is what he deserved. I'm not sure that because she refrained from "telling all" that I find comfort in her saying anything. It just wasn't fair. No man wants to hear how happy his ex is now that she is free of him and has someone who can make her happy. Just my opinion.


I have read this interview that Priscilla did around the time of the divorce. I've read it several times b/c I've often wondered how some fans believe the same points that you bring up in your post, but I just don't see it. I've also read that Priscilla was hounded by the less desirable journalists to give interviews on their lives together and she turned them down. I don't doubt that some didn't try to entice her with money also b/c Elvis was beyond reach when it came to the journalists - everyone had to get through Col. Parker to get to Elvis and that just didn't happen. So, here is Priscilla, probably the most visable link to the Elvis world and people want to know. And fans were talking, people wanted to know about their lives, rumors were swirling about his infidelities, drugs, bizarre lifestyle, etc. It would be my GUESS that she felt that Ladies Home Journal would be the most respected way to dispel some of those rumors regarding their lives together. So, I give her the benefit of the doubt that it was never her intention to hurt Elvis or spread lies. If she was the cold, heartless b*tch that everyone says she is, she could have gone to any one of many unethical journalists and spilled the beans, slammed Elvis, smeared him, divulged every secret that she had on him - but this has never happened.

But in the end, whatever the journalist wrote was strictly that journalists' perrogative, not necessarily what Priscilla wanted said, or what was taken out of context. Do I think that she mentions Stone? I am sure that she did, but did she spend the entire interview talking about what a wonderful like they had?? - NO. The journalist wrote what she felt the audience wanted to read. Just like the dolls, like Graceland, like everything that was part of Elvis' image - during and after his life - what is marketable to the fans. Its the reality and ugly side of being a public figure.

Stryx
08-21-2008, 07:03 AM
There is a rumour that Elvis visted the house in Tupelo a few weeks before he died. Apparently he drove down with Lisa Marie and showed him around.

Unfortunately it is only a rumour. He had not been to the house for some time before he died.

Donut
08-21-2008, 07:13 AM
Found it. Vernon sitting in the porch of their old house, by then reconstructed or not.

buttonhead
08-21-2008, 07:15 AM
Well...it seems like whenever we discuss about Graceland, Cilla 's name would appear ( again ..)

I think that her idea to open Graceland for people to see WAS indeed the best think she did.

I have never been fan of Cilla, but THAT idea of her is the best i can say about her.

Donut
08-21-2008, 07:17 AM
Well...it seems like whenever we discuss about Graceland, Cilla 's name would appear ( again ..)

I think that her idea to open Graceland for people to see WAS indeed the best think she did.

I have never been fan of Cilla, but THAT idea of her is the best i can say about her.

You better find another thing to admiring her for, it was not her idea.

ksimms2
08-21-2008, 07:17 AM
I went to GL in 1983 after a very difficult time in my life. I was actually sent there because i had lost someone very important in my life and i was having a very difficult time coping with it. Everyone knew about my love for Elvis and this may of been a way to make me feel better ! GL at that time was so untouched!! His cars was still in the carport and I know some of the things there at that time were still only touched by him. I felt him there that day. Around every corner, in the breeze, and in the rustling of the trees, his spirit was there. His presence was at his tombstone. I felt such peace that day, something that I thought i would never feel again. I knew at that moment i would be Ok. I never saw Elvis in the flesh but I felt his spirit! It was an experience I will never forget. It was something that would of never have happened anywhere else! Being at GL gave me such "inner Peace". I did not need any grief counseling after that, GL was everything I needed!:D

Wow..beautifully said. I'm glad it brought you peace during a difficult time in your life. I visited in 2007 - and can't wait to go back I hope soon. It was just a wonderful place and you could feel him around you - especially if you are lucky enough to go inside when nobody else is around like I did when I was there.....you feel him even more so.

buttonhead
08-21-2008, 07:23 AM
You better find another thing to admiring her for, it was not her idea.


school me...


who that ?

presley31
08-21-2008, 07:24 AM
school me...


who that ?

i was wondering the same thing since l seen it her choice in all the books l have read.

buttonhead
08-21-2008, 07:26 AM
i was wondering the same thing since l seen it her choice in all the books l have read.


Thank you. isnt that weird ?
.... i thought it was her ( Duh )...:blink:

Donut
08-21-2008, 07:35 AM
school me...


who that ?

Where to start. First the city of Memphis were studiying to make it a museum and there was talk with Vernon who declined the idea. Vernon thought to open the trophy room to help support the house before his death (source Vester, you can see him talk about it somewhere around here...), Priscilla's advisors finally made her see it would have to be open to the public if she wanted to keep it and that's what she did in 1982.

presley31
08-21-2008, 07:37 AM
Where to start. First the city of Memphis were studiying to make it a museum and there was talk with Vernon who declined the idea. Vernon thought to open the trophy room to help support the house before his death (source Vester, you can see him talk about it somewhere around here...), Priscilla's advisors finally made her see it would have to be open to the public if she wanted to keep it and that's what she did in 1982.

funny but out of billy smith mouth she didn't want to open graceland at all but felt she had no choice and is there any other sources besides vester to what your claming? nancy rooks also says it was priscilla who made the discussion about opeing gracland and aunt detla wasn't happy at all about this and made it clear it was her home and how dare priscila open it

ehollier
08-21-2008, 07:39 AM
Thank you. isnt that weird ?
.... i thought it was her ( Duh )...:blink:

Well, Buttonhead, that depends if you choose to believe "The Conspiracy Theory" (or CT, which it will commonly known before long) or not. Some believe that Priscilla has blantantly taken over at Graceland and its nothing but a lying, scheming, moneymaking machine, but will not give her any credit for its success while others choose to believe that Priscilla choose to open Graceland to save it from being sold to pay for its back taxes and for the benefit of the fans.

ehollier
08-21-2008, 07:41 AM
Where to start. First the city of Memphis were studiying to make it a museum and there was talk with Vernon who declined the idea. Vernon thought to open the trophy room to help support the house before his death (source Vester, you can see him talk about it somewhere around here...), Priscilla's advisors finally made her see it would have to be open to the public if she wanted to keep it and that's what she did in 1982.

I've read that the advisors approached the City of Memphis and they didn't want to be involved. I guess its who you choose to believe.

presley31
08-21-2008, 07:48 AM
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/SaleofGraceland.html

more information about the memphis wanting to buy graceland

Donut
08-21-2008, 07:49 AM
funny but out of billy smith mouth she didn't want to open graceland at all but felt she had no choice and is there any other sources besides vester to what your claming?

Yes, there are. But if you are really interested on this and not in just wanting to be right you would remember all this being mentioned in some Elvis books. If your question is really because you honestly want to know I can look it up for you when I have time.

presley31
08-21-2008, 07:52 AM
Yes, there are. But if you are really interested on this and not in just wanting to be right you would remember all this being mentioned in some Elvis books. If your question is really because you honestly want to know I can look it up for you when I have time.

Its has nothing to do with me being right or wrong, but i have read lots of books and not once have l heard what you mentioned except the website l posted. so please fill me what books do l need to reread to get your RIGHT information and maybe we both wil have our facts right:doh:

ehollier
08-21-2008, 07:54 AM
Yes, there are. But if you are really interested on this and not in just wanting to be right you would remember all this being mentioned in some Elvis books. If your question is really because you honestly want to know I can look it up for you when I have time.

I would be interested to know what I need to re-read to get my 'facts' straight. :'(:'(:'(

Donut
08-21-2008, 07:58 AM
Its has nothing to do with me being right or wrong, but i have read lots of books and not once have l heard what you mentioned except the website l posted. so please fill me what books do l need to reread to get your RIGHT information and maybe we both wil have our facts right:doh:

It's not based on my right information , you said you haven't heard about it before and I found it strange and more since you just posted a link mentioning the city of Memphis was interested in Graceland years before it was opened to the public. My point is it was not her idea, nothing else.

presley31
08-21-2008, 08:02 AM
It's not based on my right information , you said you haven't heard about it before and I found it strange and more since you just posted a link mentioning the city of Memphis was interested in Graceland years before it was opened to the public. My point is it was not her idea, nothing else.

By the looks of it me isn't the only one who has the wrong information, guess all us elvis fans have seemed to misleaded:blink:

ehollier
08-21-2008, 08:15 AM
(source Vester, you can see him talk about it somewhere around here...), Priscilla's advisors finally made her see it would have to be open to the public if she wanted to keep it and that's what she did in 1982.

If you can't believe Uncle Vester, then WHO can you believe????????:blink::blink::blink:

Donut
08-21-2008, 08:17 AM
I would be interested to know what I need to re-read to get my 'facts' straight. :'(:'(:'(

You are putting in my mouth words that I didn' t say. You could say that I tried to add details to the story that are not mentioned in the version of Elvis.com and to me those facts are so important as the ones they give and without them the story is not complete. There was talk about it almost since Elvis died and Priscilla finally accept it would be the point I wanted to make.

Donut
08-21-2008, 08:24 AM
By the looks of it me isn't the only one who has the wrong information, guess all us elvis fans have seemed to misleaded:blink:

I'm done with this. If any of you want to add something on topic to this conversation Iīll be glad to follow you, but if you want to keep the silly arguing rolling for the sake of it I tell you now I have better things to do and I left kindergarten many years ago.

ehollier
08-21-2008, 08:25 AM
You are putting in my mouth words that I didn' t say. You could say that I tried to add details to the story that are not mentioned in the version of Elvis.com and to me those facts are so important as the ones they give and without them the story is not complete. There was talk about it almost since Elvis died and Priscilla finally accept it would be the point I wanted to make.

Let me get this straight and which I am understanding from your above quote. You have said the following: ...." I tried to add details to the story that are not mentioned in the version of Elvis.com and to me those facts are so important as the ones they give and without them the story is not complete. " Well, I as much as we all appreicate your additional details to what is on Elvis.com, I really don't think that we need anyone else adding to the Elvis story, but thank you very much for trying. Insofar as the 'fact' of whether or not it was Priscilla's idea, I have not found any evidence to the contrary. As much as you despise her, if you can find it somewhere from a reputable journalist that proves your point, I would be happy to believe it. But until then, I just cannot go along with your added details.

presley31
08-21-2008, 08:28 AM
IMO it doesn't matter either way who opened gracland and who did what but gracland is here for fans and lisa and her chilren are looked after so me thinks elvis would be pleased everything turned out right. I don't really think there is any right or wrongs in elvis world, cause like it or not we all have our own opinions, even proof could stare you in the face but it doesn't change how we all feel about things.

Donut
08-21-2008, 08:30 AM
Let me get this straight and which I am understanding from your above quote. You have said the following: ...." I tried to add details to the story that are not mentioned in the version of Elvis.com and to me those facts are so important as the ones they give and without them the story is not complete. " Well, I as much as we all appreicate your additional details to what is on Elvis.com, I really don't think that we need anyone else adding to the Elvis story, but thank you very much for trying. Insofar as the 'fact' of whether or not it was Priscilla's idea, I have not found any evidence to the contrary. As much as you despise her, if you can find it somewhere from a reputable journalist that proves your point, I would be happy to believe it. But until then, I just cannot go along with your added details.

Have a nice day ehollier, go and find someone else to play.

I didn't read your RUDE posts completely untill today so I'm editing it to tell you don't ever tell me what I have to share or not in my own post. If you donīt want to read it that's fine with me but stop trying to ridiculize people because they don't think like you.

To those who want to know the story of Memphis interested in Graceland was in the tv news in 79. It was uploaded to Youtube and we watched and talked about it here time ago. The same story is mentioned in some Elvis books, one of them being "Careless love" if I remember correctly.

utmom2008
08-21-2008, 09:27 AM
Lord help us ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :hmm:

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Teddy
08-21-2008, 09:50 AM
Can't a guy say something supportive about his own wife around here without being teased for it? :blush:

jeanelvisgirl
08-21-2008, 11:48 AM
I find that such a difficult question......I am very much drawn to Graceland...it seems magical to me to be there....I think part of it is because when I am there I know that everyone else who is there feels the same way I do about Elvis, which is not the case anywhere else...you don't have to start explaining things...you just looks at other people there and smile........I love that....but of course, Elvis is so fascinating to me, in so many ways....that where he lived, how he lived is of endless interest to me......

I have to say I got the same kind of shivers at.....Sun Studios...moreso than Tupelo...I think that's because Sun Studios is as it was when he was there...and of course they play the music....whereas Tupelo has been changed so much......it's no longer the place it was when he was there...understandably.....

Graceland is the place for me!

Donut
08-22-2008, 03:48 AM
I find that such a difficult question......I am very much drawn to Graceland...it seems magical to me to be there....I think part of it is because when I am there I know that everyone else who is there feels the same way I do about Elvis, which is not the case anywhere else...you don't have to start explaining things...you just looks at other people there and smile........I love that....but of course, Elvis is so fascinating to me, in so many ways....that where he lived, how he lived is of endless interest to me......

I have to say I got the same kind of shivers at.....Sun Studios...moreso than Tupelo...I think that's because Sun Studios is as it was when he was there...and of course they play the music....whereas Tupelo has been changed so much......it's no longer the place it was when he was there...understandably.....

Graceland is the place for me!

I think Iīm alone on this then, you all see to be more attached to Graceland than I am but thank you for your opinions anyway.

Donut
08-22-2008, 04:07 AM
If you can't believe Uncle Vester, then WHO can you believe????????:blink::blink::blink:

Obviously YOU.
PS I just edited my last post to you from yesterday especially for you.

buttonhead
08-22-2008, 04:37 AM
... Hey Donut...

you are such a sweetheart but why is it sound like you were angry to any comment that people gave to you ? ?

When someone started new thread that person have to be ready with any pros and cons....

THINK before you said and or type something.

Donut
08-22-2008, 05:09 AM
... Hey Donut...

you are such a sweetheart but why is it sound like you were angry to any comment that people gave to you ? ?

When someone started new thread that person have to be ready with any pros and cons....
THINK before you said and or type something.

You are wrong. I have to be prepared for any different opinion on the subject but I donīt have to be prepared for personal attacks. Maybe itīs you who have to THINK about it before typing a post because itīs really simple.
If this post disturbs you then youīll understand what Iīm trying to say.

jeanelvisgirl
08-22-2008, 07:29 AM
I think Iīm alone on this then, you all see to be more attached to Graceland than I am but thank you for your opinions anyway.

I have alot of Elvis friends who are not the slightest bit interested in going to Graceland.......they love the music, the movies, the concerts....Elvis as the Entertainer is their thing...they have no desire to go to Graceland....so you are not alone in this at all.....

Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 02:06 PM
Hi David

Lisa and Priscilla will probably be buried in L.A. as they are hollywood people and they enjoy that scene, as do Lisa's children.

Don't bother me none I would be furiated if Cilla was laid to rest at Graceland thats just wrong. All the Presleys would be rolling in their Graves. and Thats sad Lisa would rather be buried out there then at her home at Graceland with her father but if thats how she feels then thats her deal shes not who I'm a fan of anyways its Elvis.

Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 02:12 PM
There is a rumour that Elvis visted the house in Tupelo a few weeks before he died. Apparently he drove down with Lisa Marie and showed him around.

Unfortunately it is only a rumour. He had not been to the house for some time before he died.

I heard he hadn't been to Tupelo a few years before he died...:hmm:

Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 02:15 PM
even proof could stare you in the face but it doesn't change how we all feel about things.

So you would rather go on living in a great ol fairytale...carry on because like you said, nothings going to change your opinion.:doh:

Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 02:30 PM
Graceland to me is special because that's where Elvis spent the majority of his life at, not because of the materialistic things he left behinde just everything he went through while living there, of course the saddest being where he passed away at, but everything else aswell. Its where he's and his family is laid to rest at, its just Graceland words can't describe. I hope they never sell it or do anything stupid like that with it.

beckelvis
08-23-2008, 02:42 PM
the truth gives me a little pity ELVISLANDYA become for me everything is important,your home,your objects around,but I recognise that his music today for me is the center of everything,his house could disappear over time who known,but is music, friend will be continue to live for ever and ever.

utmom2008
08-23-2008, 05:31 PM
Thats sad Lisa would rather be buried out there then at her home at Graceland with her father but if thats how she feels then thats her deal shes not who I'm a fan of anyways its Elvis.

Bradley don't forget Lisa has(will have) 4 children. As a parent you tend to think of your kids and hubby before you think of your parents. That's The Way It Is!!!

Unchained Melody
08-23-2008, 07:42 PM
Bradley don't forget Lisa has(will have) 4 children. As a parent you tend to think of your kids and hubby before you think of your parents. That's The Way It Is!!!

Good points Rossie..

shelley.m.
08-23-2008, 07:58 PM
Graceland will always be connected with Elvis.I have never been there but someday I sure hope too.

fillaelvis
08-24-2008, 12:03 PM
Why is Graceland so important to you? I know Elvis lived there and was his favorite among his houses but, how is it fans are already thinking of what will happen with it when Lisa die, or what Sillerman will do around it in a near future? :blink: Elvis died and he doesnīt need it anymore, besides there is the Elvis birthplace to see too wich I found more emotive to visit than Graceland. Why is so important to you who owns it? The house is a museum for a number of years now and his heir doesnīt want it to live there. Are not more important to you his music and his work than the material things he left behind when he died?
Iīd like to know why you think this way.

Graceland is the birthplace for the biggest artist in the world EVER!. Thats why its so important to me. I go there every year to remember and celebreate him.

renapap05
12-09-2008, 06:52 AM
I totally agree with Rossane and Liana...The feeling when you pass across the gates is unique;)