Merchandise - When Is Too Far Too Far?

[ElvisPresleyUK]

I just love to go out (when i can afford it) and get the latest and best Elvis merchandise...but i was shocked when i recieved my Shop Elvis catalogue the other day to find a range, called "Viva Las Vegas", containing t-shirts and baby gros styled on Elvis's infamous jumpsuits...and before you say that sounds good, then you should see them. I couldn't get a picture for here but i can paste the link for you to see them on shopelvis.com

Kids T- Shirt http://www.shopelvis.com/Product.aspx?cp=796_3834&pc=EPCT235

Baby Gro http://www.shopelvis.com/Product.aspx?cp=796_3834_11160&pc=EPCM168

There are also men and womens versions of these designs, which i think are worser still...but they are not currently on the shopelvis website for some reason

[Unchained Melody]

How about the new Priscilla And Elvis Wedding Dolls.

How many divorced couples have those made of themselves all these years l8er. :lol:

[presley31]

How about the new Priscilla And Elvis Wedding Dolls.

How many divorced couples have those made of themselves all these years l8er. :lol:

That is silly IMO. Sillerman is the one who coming out with these stupid ideas. I doubt very much Lisa likes seeing all the crap there selling, but she doesn't have much say anymore.

[Unchained Melody]

That is silly IMO. Sillerman is the one who coming out with these stupid ideas. I doubt very much Lisa likes seeing all the crap there selling, but she doesn't have much say anymore.

Ahh I'm sure I would buy one if I seen it...sure they'd make for nice collectibles....:blink::blink:

[ElvisPresleyUK]

That is silly IMO. Sillerman is the one who coming out with these stupid ideas. I doubt very much Lisa likes seeing all the crap there selling, but she doesn't have much say anymore.

i read somewhere that everything new being sold still had to have approval from her, yet the amount of tacky stuff out there really confuses me:doh:

[presley31]

i read somewhere that everything new being sold still had to have approval from her, yet the amount of tacky stuff out there really confuses me:doh:

I see if l can find the article where it states that sillerman controls everything except graceland itself and the grounds.

[presley31]

Ahh I'm sure I would buy one if I seen it...sure they'd make for nice collectibles....:blink::blink:

believe it but some fans would go out and by these things that why they sell them. if people didn't buy them they wouldn't be able to sell them

[Unchained Melody]

believe it but some fans would go out and by these things that why they sell them. if people didn't buy them they wouldn't be able to sell them

I think a boycott should be up for suggestion :lmfao:

[ElvisPresleyUK]

I think a boycott should be up for suggestion :lmfao:
completely...the designers will sure be woken up from this s**t sleep that they have been in if people stop buying the s**t they've been making...then perhaps they could do something half decent for once

[Unchained Melody]

completely...the designers will sure be woken up from this s**t sleep that they have been in if people stop buying the s**t they've been making...then perhaps they could do something half decent for once

I just suggest that people save their hard earned money on the likes of the New Follow That Dream CD's instead of C-R-A-P (C) Cisco like these dolls.

[ElvisPresleyUK]

I just suggest that people save their hard earned money on the likes of the New Follow That Dream CD's instead of C-R-A-P (C) Cisco like these dolls.

well obviously...the FTDs are great, but at the moment they seem to be the only things that are

[Unchained Melody]

well obviously...the FTDs are great, but at the moment they seem to be the only things that are

Umm last time I checked we have some really great gems coming from the import world as well with Madions's release of The Greensboro 72 concert, and Fortbaxter's Back With A Bang March 1975 concert from Vegas...(y)

[Lainey]

LOL! Now I feel bad. I actually thought about buying a onesie for my grand-daughter. She is adorable and I thought that the "Jailhouse Rock" onesie would look SOOOO cute on her.:)

The dolls - not so much. (n)

[presley31]

http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/01/news/newsmakers/elvis_fortune_121205/index.htm

There is something about sillerman in there, but its very true that if fans stopped buying the silly things, than EPE would have no Choice but to get rid of them.

[ElvisPresleyUK]

Umm last time I checked we have some really great gems coming from the import world as well with Madions's release of The Greensboro 72 concert, and Fortbaxter's Back With A Bang March 1975 concert from Vegas...(y)

heard about the Greensboro concert..not heard about the other until just now, thanks for the heads up (y) . The imports are great, some of my fav outtakes and live songs are available only on import...limagine how different life would be without them:hmm:

[Unchained Melody]

heard about the Greensboro concert..not heard about the other until just now, thanks for the heads up (y) . The imports are great, some of my fav outtakes and live songs are available only on import...limagine how different life would be without them:hmm:

It would definitley be a sad thing indeed. FTD's and Boot's are the only thing I keep up with when it comes to new CD's they are the best you know !

[ElvisPresleyUK]

It would definitley be a sad thing indeed. FTD's and Boot's are the only thing I keep up with when it comes to new CD's they are the best you know !


Yeah they are! If we didn't have boots we'd have to wait like another 50 years, if ever, for the majority of takes and concerts to be released. Thank god for imports :notworthy

[SeeSeeRider777]

I should get that baby outfit for my cousin, she just had a baby.

[Unchained Melody]

I should get that baby outfit for my cousin, she just had a baby.

Make that two bro, one for me too to have in the collection ! :lol:;)

[SeeSeeRider777]

Make that two bro, one for me too to have in the collection ! :lol:;)

You planning to have a kid soon? :lol:

[Unchained Melody]

You planning to have a kid soon? :lol:

:lmfao:Line of the week right there :lol:

No not anytime soon, may need to take a few driving classes before i enter parenthood ! ;)

[presley31]

:lmfao:Line of the week right there :lol:

No not anytime soon, may need to take a few driving classes before i enter parenthood ! ;)

you might need some parenting classes too :lmfao::lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

you might need some parenting classes too :lmfao::lmfao:

Yeah those wouldn't hurt either I suppose ;)

[Diane]

:lol::lol::lol: Love your sense of humor!

I find it hard to find anything worth buying anymore too. I have quite a bit of memorabilia but I think I've bottomed out. I only buy the occasional book, CD or DVD anymore.

Diane

[utmom2008]

You planning to have a kid soon? :lol:

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

:lmfao:Line of the week right there :lol:

No not anytime soon, may need to take a few driving classes before i enter parenthood ! ;)

Remember the word CARSEAT. You will have to have one of those....especially the way you drive.:lmfao::lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

Remember the word CARSEAT. You will have to have one of those....especially the way you drive.:lmfao::lmfao:

Ladies & Gentlemen...we have a comedian in the house !! :lmfao::blush:

Funny, making fun of my driving skills :P

[utmom2008]

Ladies & Gentlemen...we have a comedian in the house !! :lmfao::blush:

Funny, making fun of my driving skills :P

I am only thinking of the well being of any baby Colonel Jon's that might be on the horizon one day.:lmfao::lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

I am only thinking of the well being of any baby Colonel Jon's that might be on the horizon one day.:lmfao::lmfao:

Keep it up and you will soon have a deal with Saturday Night Live !! :P;)

&& I appreciate your concern...it means alot =]

[utmom2008]

Keep it up and you will soon have a deal with Saturday Night Live !! :P;)

&& I appreciate your concern...it means alot =]

You do realize that I'm kidding with you, right? I know how your Mom feels...I was in her shoes a little over 4 years ago.:blink:

[Unchained Melody]

You do realize that I'm kidding with you.:blink:

Yes I was only playing along with ya lol (y):P

[utmom2008]

Yes I was only playing along with ya lol (y):P

Good! I thought so, but wanted to be sure. Now...let's talk about that Defensive Driving course that we are going to enroll you in.;):lol::lol:

[Unchained Melody]

Good! I thought so, but wanted to be sure. Now...let's talk about that Defensive Driving course that we are going to enroll you in.;):lol::lol:

Please, I had to spend 2 hours this morning listening to my daddyo talk about the responsibilities of this and that.....I've had enough lecturing to do a life time!! :bangin:

[utmom2008]

Please, I had to spend 2 hours this morning listening to my daddyo talk about the responsibilities of this and that.....I've had enough lecturing to do a life time!! :bangin:

My son told me that when he rolled his truck and he and his friend crawled out and saw that they were both OK that he said"Oh No.....now I have to call my parents.":blink::blink:

[Unchained Melody]

My son told me that when he rolled his truck and he and his friend crawled out and saw that they were both OK that he said"Oh No.....now I have to call my parents.":blink::blink:

Yeah i was really dreading my parents get there. I couldn't call because my dads cell phone I had with me was in the floor board of the car which was filled with water from the pool up to my waist that came through when it busted through my front windshield so it wasn't good deal at all.;)

[utmom2008]

Yeah i was really dreading my parents get there. I couldn't call because my dads cell phone I had with me was in the floor board of the car which was filled with water from the pool up to my waist that came through when it busted through my front windshield so it wasn't good deal at all.;)

You really are one lucky young man. That situation could have turned out much worse than it did..not just for you but for the other's home and pool as well. I promise you it will make you a better, more alert driver from now on.

My son had always been very good about wearing his seatbelt. Two years after his accident he finally got up the nerve to say "Mom...I wasn't wearing my seat belt that night." How he managed to go air-born..take out a fence and roll two times and get out with a scratch on his forehead is nothing short of a miracle.:blink::blink::blink:

[Jungleroom76]

EXCELLENT TOPIC!!! (y)

Stay tuned for an installment of "The Jungle Room" covering this very subject...COMING SOON!!!

TCB!
Mike

[Getlo]

Sillerman is the one who coming out with these stupid ideas. I doubt very much Lisa likes seeing all the crap there selling, but she doesn't have much say anymore.

You can rest assured that Lisa gives her approval for every piece of crap they sell at Graceland, and via EPE.

One can only imagine some of the rubbish that gets rejected for sale!

[cameron]

Lisa has 15% ,Sillerman has 85%. They don't sell anything at Graceland.
That's all Lisa has any say over. Graceland.
You can bet it's Sillermans call !!

[Getlo]

They don't sell nything at Graceland.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ElvisPresleyUK]

EXCELLENT TOPIC!!! (y)

Stay tuned for an installment of "The Jungle Room" covering this very subject...COMING SOON!!!

TCB!
Mike

Great! i shall look forward to it, love listening to the Jungle Room installments (y)

[utmom2008]

EXCELLENT TOPIC!!! (y)

Stay tuned for an installment of "The Jungle Room" covering this very subject...COMING SOON!!!

TCB!
Mike

On teenage drivers?? Let me know..I can provide details.:supriced::supriced::blink::blink:

[utmom2008]

You can rest assured that Lisa gives her approval for every piece of crap they sell at Graceland, and via EPE.

One can only imagine some of the rubbish that gets rejected for sale!

Probably something along the lines of ELVIS toilet paper.:blush::blush:


Lisa has 15% ,Sillerman has 85%. They don't sell anything at Graceland.
That's all Lisa has any say over. Graceland.
You can bet it's Sillermans call !!

I still think if Lisa wanted something rejected bad enough someone will listen.;)

[presley31]

Probably something along the lines of ELVIS toilet paper.:blush::blush:



I still think if Lisa wanted something rejected bad enough someone will listen.;)

if that was true half of the stuff wouldn't be there. Come on now the talking heads and these dolls are going alittle to far and you can't tell me Lisa thinks this is ok:blink:

[Getlo]

if that was true half of the stuff wouldn't be there. Come on now the talking heads and these dolls are going alittle to far and you can't tell me Lisa thinks this is ok:blink:

The talking heads etc you mention may be going "too far" but they (unlike, say toilet paper or whatever) are not in poor taste. They're just tacky.

Despite Lisa selling the majority of her stake in Graceland, she still controls stuff like this. You can bet your bottom dollar that each item sold at Graceland and through EPE has been given at least her tacit approval. She would have at least seen a picture of the items and said yes or no.

[Merry]

Despite Lisa selling the majority of her stake in Graceland, she still controls stuff like this. You can bet your bottom dollar that each item sold at Graceland and through EPE has been given at least her tacit approval. She would have at least seen a picture of the items and said yes or no.


Sources, please? :hmm:

[cameron]

Sources, please? :hmm:
That would be a novel idea. ;)

[Getlo]

Sources, please? :hmm:

Common sense, and Lisa's own quotes re what she does within the framework of the business.

You can't seriously suggest that a woman who purportedly cares "so much" about her father's image (;)) would approve for sale something that she did not like, or at least something that she was okay with?

[utmom2008]

Lisa has 15% ,Sillerman has 85%. They don't sell anything at Graceland.
That's all Lisa has any say over. Graceland.
You can bet it's Sillermans call !!

I just came from browsing around at Elvis.com. The list of things to sell seems to grow by leaps and bounds every month. There are several "tacky" items listed, and underneath it does say Available at Graceland. Since she has all the rights to the "Graceland" TM I am assuming that this is something she knows full well about.:blink::blink:


if that was true half of the stuff wouldn't be there. Come on now the talking heads and these dolls are going alittle to far and you can't tell me Lisa thinks this is ok:blink:
I saw those talking heads when we were there in April. Thank God they have now been moved down to the bottom shelves, usually in a corner. She may have thought they were tacky, but I think she probably let them pass on through.;);)




Despite Lisa selling the majority of her stake in Graceland, she still controls stuff like this. You can bet your bottom dollar that each item sold at Graceland and through EPE has been given at least her tacit approval. She would have at least seen a picture of the items and said yes or no.

I think her nod of approval is most likely very brief, but I think she has at least an idea of what is being sold across the street from home. If not....shame on her!:supriced:

[cameron]

Common sense, and Lisa's own quotes re what she does within the framework of the business.
You can't seriously suggest that a woman who purportedly cares "so much" about her father's image (;)) would approve for sale something that she did not like, or at least something that she was okay with?

Just what does Lisa do within the framework of the business---now that she no longer owns it?

[Getlo]

I think she has at least an idea of what is being sold across the street from home. If not....shame on her!:supriced:

Precisely.


Just what does Lisa do within the framework of the business---now that she no longer owns it?

I presume you're being ironic in some way here? I just can't take that question seriously.

[nyc]

Just what does Lisa do within the framework of the business---now that she no longer owns it?

I'm curious about that myself. Sillerman controls 85% of EPE, while Lisa owns 15%. Sillerman is unlikely to have paid out over $100 million without taking on all of the rights of a majority owner.

And Lisa really had nothing to do with EPE even when she owned the company. There's a reason Priscilla has been so visible, and that's because Lisa left her mother in charge long after her trust expired and she inherited Elvis' estate outright. If Lisa ever had had any real interest in Elvis' estate, she would have taken over from her mother at 25 and wouldn't have sold to Sillerman in 2004.

I'm also puzzled at the idea that EPE licensing junk is a new development. I thought EPE was notorious (and frequently criticized) for licensing any junk that could bring in money long before Sillerman was in the picture.

[Getlo]

If Lisa ever had had any real interest in Elvis' estate, she would have taken over from her mother at 25 and wouldn't have sold to Sillerman in 2004.

No one is wise enough or experienced enough to run a major corporation at 25.

Lisa Marie knew that, long before she was 25. Hence, she delayed her takeover.

Her interest in her father's estate, while misguided at times, is very real.

That is why she did not take the reins of EPE at such a young age.

[nyc]

No one is wise enough or experienced enough to run a major corporation at 25.

Lisa Marie knew that, long before she was 25. Hence, she delayed her takeover.

Her interest in her father's estate, while misguided at times, is very real.

That is why she did not take the reins of EPE at such a young age.

I assume she would have had advisors, just as Priscilla did. But the fact remains that when Lisa's trust expired and Lisa inherited outright, she created a new trust and left Priscilla in charge. I've never seen any evidence that Lisa had any real interest in Elvis' estate, and selling it off clinches that for me. What sources do you have that show Lisa ever has had an active role in EPE?

And again, Lisa sold 85% of EPE to Sillerman in 2004. She's a minority owner, nothing more. She retains title to Graceland and Elvis' personal property, that's it.

Sillerman calls the shots with EPE now, not Lisa or Priscilla. He can sell EPE off if he wants - and judging by his history, he will, if it's not profitable enough for him.

If you have any sources proving that Sillerman paid out $100 million to Lisa without getting all the rights of a majority owner, I'd like to see them.

[cameron]

And again, Lisa sold 85% of EPE to Sillerman in 2004. She's a minority owner, nothing more. She retains title to Graceland and Elvis' personal property, that's it.
Sillerman calls the shots with EPE now, not Lisa or Priscilla. He can sell EPE off if he wants - and judging by his history, he will, if it's not profitable enough for him.

If you have any sources proving that Sillerman paid out $100 million to Lisa without getting all the rights of a majority owner, I'd like to see them.

I'd have to agree with you. I'd like to see anything different myself.

[nyc]

I'd have to agree with you. I'd like to see anything different myself.


Everything I've read about the estate sale has been consistent. This is from an IHT article regarding EPE, CKX, and the proposed transaction with 19X:


Lisa Marie Presley still owns her father's house and 15 percent of Elvis Presley Enterprises, but CKX controls Graceland and its complex of souvenir shops and museums. "As great as it is," Sillerman said after a recent visit to Graceland, "it can be so much better."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/03/business/grace.php

As I said, if there's anything out there indicating that Sillerman isn't in charge now, I'd like to see it, because Sillerman would have to be incredibly stupid to pay Lisa $100 million without getting all of the rights in EPE that any other majority owner would have.

And Sillerman definitely isn't stupid.

[Merry]

Common sense, and Lisa's own quotes re what she does within the framework of the business.

You can't seriously suggest that a woman who purportedly cares "so much" about her father's image (;)) would approve for sale something that she did not like, or at least something that she was okay with?


Sources: "common sense".

Does it for me! rofl:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[cameron]

As I said, if there's anything out there indicating that Sillerman isn't in charge now, I'd like to see it, because Sillerman would have to be incredibly stupid to pay Lisa $100 million without getting all of the rights in EPE that any other majority owner would have.

And Sillerman definitely isn't stupid.

No, Sillerman isn't stupid by a long shot, or he'd not be where he is.

I was looking for something that gave Sillerman an option to purchase too, but I can't find it now. It's somewhere else on this site. It was also shown at the "Elvis Insiders." I'll find it eventually. :)

[Donut]

Maybe Lisa has little to say now that Sillerman owns 85% of EPE but it was hers untill then and the tacky stuff were there when she had full control. In my opinion she never wanted to be the face of EPE for that and other things related to that but don´t forget she has been living off the bussiness all her life while letting her mother to be the representative of it all. To me Lisa didn´t want to look like he was living off her father and Priscilla was and is very happy for living from that and the attention she gets for it. A perfect team.

[SleepyJack]

While the goose that layed the golden egg ends up looking like...well....a goose.

[utmom2008]

While the goose that layed the golden egg ends up looking like...well....a goose.

Oh Jack I have missed your humor!

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[MIElvis]

I like the T shirts