Dear Georgie

[ehollier]

While recording at American Studios during the takes, Elvis went into his "Dear Georgie" comedy routine that has been rumored to be from an LP of the comedy of Redd Foxx. Does anyone know of a clip or recording of Redd Foxx that exists with "Dear Georgie"??

[utmom2008]

Aren't you on vacation Elizabeth?? Is it raining there or something?;);):lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

Aren't you on vacation Elizabeth?? Is it raining there or something?;);):lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


We leave Sunday morning. At present, I'm making my list of last minute things I have to pack and I have an appointment for a pedicure on Saturday (have to have pretty toes on the beach!!). Right now I am listening outtakes from the American Recording Sessions in 1969.

[utmom2008]

We leave Sunday morning. At present, I'm making my list of last minute things I have to pack and I have an appointment for a pedicure on Saturday (have to have pretty toes on the beach!!). Right now I am listening outtakes from the American Recording Sessions in 1969.

Are you still taking your daughter to Memphis?

[ehollier]

Are you still taking your daughter to Memphis?

Yes, I am. We will return from Alabama on July 13 and I'm taking her to Memphis on July 17th. I wanted to take her to Memphis directly from the beach, but I have an appointment for my son and cannot reschedule, so Memphis will have to wait a few days. Actually, Memphis is about 3 hours closer to my house than Gulf Shores.

[utmom2008]

Yes, I am. We will return from Alabama on July 13 and I'm taking her to Memphis on July 17th. I wanted to take her to Memphis directly from the beach, but I have an appointment for my son and cannot reschedule, so Memphis will have to wait a few days. Actually, Memphis is about 3 hours closer to my house than Gulf Shores.

How long will you be in Memphis? Where are you guys staying?

[ehollier]

How long will you be in Memphis? Where are you guys staying?

We're only going to be in Memphis for one night and I don't have a clue where we are staying. Our plans just changed (coming back home before going to Memphis). My parents have another home in Mississippi so if worse comes to worse, we'll sleep there, but I'm hoping to find somewhere in Memphis. I would love to see some other things in Memphis and go to Beale Street (I imagine it a little like Bourbon Street down in the French Quarter), but my daughter is only 8 and is only interested in seeing Graceland. Hopefully, I'll get to Memphis again and Nashville, eventually.

[utmom2008]

We're only going to be in Memphis for one night and I don't have a clue where we are staying. Our plans just changed (coming back home before going to Memphis). My parents have another home in Mississippi so if worse comes to worse, we'll sleep there, but I'm hoping to find somewhere in Memphis. I would love to see some other things in Memphis and go to Beale Street (I imagine it a little like Bourbon Street down in the French Quarter), but my daughter is only 8 and is only interested in seeing Graceland. Hopefully, I'll get to Memphis again and Nashville, eventually.

WOW!!You are going to have to be moving fast at that rate. Did u ever try to get a room at the HH? How far from Memphis do you live? It's hard to see and do it all that fast...u need to plan a return trip. Gail and I decided in April that 2 nights was not enough for us...so we are staying 3 nights this fall. I can't wait.......:lol:(y)(y)
BTW...exactly when did you become an official Elvis nut? :lol:

[ehollier]

WOW!!You are going to have to be moving fast at that rate. Did u ever try to get a room at the HH? How far from Memphis do you live? It's hard to see and do it all that fast...u need to plan a return trip. Gail and I decided in April that 2 nights was not enough for us...so we are staying 3 nights this fall. I can't wait.......:lol:(y)(y)
BTW...exactly when did you become an official Elvis nut? :lol:

No, I haven't looked into a room at the HH -- more likely the Hilton or the Holiday Inn. Its about 5 1/2 hours to Memphis from here. Since I am only going to Graceland, I only need one day. Remember, I am traveling with my eight year old.

A nut?? You're calling me a nut???? lol...I've only been here since Feb. 2008, but I've always loved his music since I was a child. The first "book" I read (and the last book) was Albert Goldman's book. Needless to say, I decided to just remember the wonderful music and voice and forget about the book. It wasn't until Peter Guralnick's books came out that I decided to read again about his life. Now my 8 yr old says "I just can't help myself but I just love him!!!" HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

[utmom2008]

No, I haven't looked into a room at the HH -- more likely the Hilton or the Holiday Inn. Its about 5 1/2 hours to Memphis from here. Since I am only going to Graceland, I only need one day. Remember, I am traveling with my eight year old.

A nut?? You're calling me a nut???? lol...I've only been here since Feb. 2008, but I've always loved his music since I was a child. The first "book" I read (and the last book) was Albert Goldman's book. Needless to say, I decided to just remember the wonderful music and voice and forget about the book. It wasn't until Peter Guralnick's books came out that I decided to read again about his life. Now my 8 yr old says "I just can't help myself but I just love him!!!" HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get an early start...you are going to be very surprised at how much Elvis and GL stuff there is to see and do. Gail and I never got our car out after we checked into the Hotel..and still didn't see as much as we wanted. The 1st time we took our daughter she was 8...she wasn't through looking either. As she said....."but Mom..he's so hot". I can't believe it's your 1st trip!:supriced::supriced: Gail and I had fun at night visiting with all the Europeans at the Hotel..they couldn't believe I was 4.5 hours away and didn't come at least once a month.:supriced::supriced::lol::lol:

[utmom2008]

No, I haven't looked into a room at the HH -- more likely the Hilton or the Holiday Inn. Its about 5 1/2 hours to Memphis from here. Since I am only going to Graceland, I only need one day. Remember, I am traveling with my eight year old.

A nut?? You're calling me a nut???? lol...I've only been here since Feb. 2008, but I've always loved his music since I was a child. The first "book" I read (and the last book) was Albert Goldman's book. Needless to say, I decided to just remember the wonderful music and voice and forget about the book. It wasn't until Peter Guralnick's books came out that I decided to read again about his life. Now my 8 yr old says "I just can't help myself but I just love him!!!" HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are in luck if you want it!! The HH has a room open for the night of the 17th...you should get on line tonight and grab it!! We made our reservations weeks ago for October and they let us know we barely made it under the wire. If u want to only do GL and get the FULL E experience..you need to stay there. Your daughter would LOVE sitting downstairs at night and watching TTWII on about a 10 ft. screen.:lol::lol:(y)(y)

[ehollier]

You are in luck if you want it!! The HH has a room open for the night of the 17th...you should get on line tonight and grab it!! We made our reservations weeks ago for October and they let us know we barely made it under the wire. If u want to only do GL and get the FULL E experience..you need to stay there. Your daughter would LOVE sitting downstairs at night and watching TTWII on about a 10 ft. screen.:lol::lol:(y)(y)

Thanks. I'm going to look into it!!!

[utmom2008]

A nut?? You're calling me a nut???? lol...I've only been here since Feb. 2008, but I've always loved his music since I was a child. The first "book" I read (and the last book) was Albert Goldman's book. Needless to say, I decided to just remember the wonderful music and voice and forget about the book. It wasn't until Peter Guralnick's books came out that I decided to read again about his life. Now my 8 yr old says "I just can't help myself but I just love him!!!" HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Albert Goldman was NOT the right book to start with..that's for sure.(n) I was asking about the "nut" question because I was completely blown away when I realized that it's only recently that you discovered the phenomenom that is ELVIS. Your little girl has great taste! I was a little younger than that even when I knew there was not another one out there but him. I was teased in school on a daily basis..but it made no difference to me. I knew I was on to something, and it took others a longer period of time to get it.;);):lol:

[ehollier]

Albert Goldman was NOT the right book to start with..that's for sure.(n) I was asking about the "nut" question because I was completely blown away when I realized that it's only recently that you discovered the phenomenom that is ELVIS. Your little girl has great taste! I was a little younger than that even when I knew there was not another one out there but him. I was teased in school on a daily basis..but it made no difference to me. I knew I was on to something, and it took others a longer period of time to get it.;);):lol:


I grew up listening to Elvis. My parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents (who saw him in the 50's here Louisiana and in Vegas in the early 70's) were all fans, bought the LP's, saw the 70's concerts, etc. So, I grew up hearing him, singing his songs. But I do recall one day (it must have been after Aloho aired) I saw someone on TV singing and wondering why they didn't have their eyes closed when they sang and why they didn't move around. After all, Elvis ALWAYS closes his eyes when he sings and moves around. Isn't that strange??? A child would notice that????

[ehollier]

Albert Goldman was NOT the right book to start with..that's for sure.(n) I was asking about the "nut" question because I was completely blown away when I realized that it's only recently that you discovered the phenomenom that is ELVIS. Your little girl has great taste! I was a little younger than that even when I knew there was not another one out there but him. I was teased in school on a daily basis..but it made no difference to me. I knew I was on to something, and it took others a longer period of time to get it.;);):lol:

As far as the book, Goldman's book was really the only book out there, except for the the West's book and Jerry Hopkin's book. But Goldman's looked like it had everything there was to know about Elvis.

OMG, Rosanne, when I began reading it -- those first 3 chapters -- Here I am, a 15/16 yr girl and reading about all of the aweful things that happened around 73-76 about ELVIS!! I mean, this is ELVIS, the man who sings with his eyes closed and has a voice that only God himself could create and here is Goldman's saying all of these things. Rosanne, it was quite a new 'view' of Elvis.

I did read Priscilla's book b/c I was always interested in their story, but it really wasn't until Peter's books came about that I really allowed myself to BELIEVE what has been said and written about him, b/c Peter's books are so well researched and as objective as you can be.

[ehollier]

Albert Goldman was NOT the right book to start with..that's for sure.(n) I was asking about the "nut" question because I was completely blown away when I realized that it's only recently that you discovered the phenomenom that is ELVIS. Your little girl has great taste! I was a little younger than that even when I knew there was not another one out there but him. I was teased in school on a daily basis..but it made no difference to me. I knew I was on to something, and it took others a longer period of time to get it.;);):lol:

So, fast-forward until Christmas 2007. My daughter gets hung up on Elvis' Christmas CD and I start looking around on the internet and stumble on this site and am in ABSOLUTE AWE over the PHENOMENOM that is ELVIS, that there is still something that he touches in so many after all of this time, something that no one can really put a finger on. I guess growing up, he was always around but I never saw the PHENOMENOM that is ELVIS. I realized after he died that there were many many fans who missed him, but at 10 years old, its really difficult to fully understand his impact.

Now that so much time has passed and I have children, it is much easier to see his cultural impact b/c he still has "IT", he can still draw fans as if he never left. Just the simple fact that my daughter is so attacted to his music and charisma is testimony to this phenomenom. Its just amazing.

[utmom2008]

So, fast-forward until Christmas 2007. My daughter gets hung up on Elvis' Christmas CD and I start looking around on the internet and stumble on this site and am in ABSOLUTE AWE over the PHENOMENOM that is ELVIS, that there is still something that he touches in so many after all of this time, something that no one can really put a finger on. I guess growing up, he was always around but I never saw the PHENOMENOM that is ELVIS. I realized after he died that there were many many fans who missed him, but at 10 years old, its really difficult to fully understand his impact.

Now that so much time has passed and I have children, it is much easier to see his cultural impact b/c he still has "IT", he can still draw fans as if he never left. Just the simple fact that my daughter is so attacted to his music and charisma is testimony to this phenomenom. Its just amazing.

I was amazed in April when Gail and I were at the Hotel...I would have to say that the majority of fans were Europeans.:supriced::supriced: They would spend about 4 or 5 days in Memphis..one day in Tupelo, and then they were all flying to Vegas the next day to see the Hilton. Even though they knew the showroom was nothing like it was back in the day...they wanted to soak up the air in a Hotel where Elvis once took a breath. It's nothing short of AMAZING......:notworthy:notworthy

[utmom2008]

As far as the book, Goldman's book was really the only book out there, except for the the West's book and Jerry Hopkin's book. But Goldman's looked like it had everything there was to know about Elvis.

OMG, Rosanne, when I began reading it -- those first 3 chapters -- Here I am, a 15/16 yr girl and reading about all of the aweful things that happened around 73-76 about ELVIS!! I mean, this is ELVIS, the man who sings with his eyes closed and has a voice that only God himself could create and here is Goldman's saying all of these things. Rosanne, it was quite a new 'view' of Elvis.

I did read Priscilla's book b/c I was always interested in their story, but it really wasn't until Peter's books came about that I really allowed myself to BELIEVE what has been said and written about him, b/c Peter's books are so well researched and as objective as you can be.

I still refer to the Goldman book as "the firestarter". If we ever need to burn something...that will be the 1st to go.(n)(n)

[ehollier]

I still refer to the Goldman book as "the firestarter". If we ever need to burn something...that will be the 1st to go.(n)(n)

No doubt that he started something. It was just such an explosive book to read, especially when I had read nothing else as a biography on Elvis. Yikes, I was just blown away by the things which he writes. It was quite obvious then and even more so today, but the contempt in which he writes of his subject is completely astounding.

He even goes as far as saying that Elvis couldn't sing. Now, of all of the things that have been written about Elvis - the drugs, women, guns, tantrums (all which no one denies), the simple fact of claiming that the man couldn't sing was completely crazy!!!!! So, with that simple statement, Goldman loses his credibility completely!!!!!

Even for those who don't consider themselves 'fans' of Elvis, know that the man can sing!!!! From a technical point of view, he has an amazing voice that spans almost 3 octaves which allows him to sing tenor and bass. From a pure emotional point of view, his voice can move a person to tears with the emotion of the likes of no one else ever!!!!

[ehollier]

.... Even though they knew the showroom was nothing like it was back in the day...they wanted to soak up the air in a Hotel where Elvis once took a breath. It's nothing short of AMAZING......:notworthy:notworthy

This is the whole phenomenon that still makes me speechless. Just as the days of the 50's when girls would pull grass from his lawn or scrap dirt from his car to keep as a memento, this is still so unexplainable. The PHENOMENON known as ELVIS is still so unbelievable. Why him???? There was never nor has there ever been an entertainer that has entilled such crazy and unexplained actions in the sane person. Why him??? What is it that causes people to act this way?????

[utmom2008]

It was quite obvious then and even more so today, but the contempt in which he writes of his subject is completely astounding.

He even goes as far as saying that Elvis couldn't sing. So, with that simmple statement, Goldman loses his credibility completely!!!!!

Even for those who don't consider themselves 'fans' of Elvis, no that the man can sing!!!!

That is all so true...yes, he lost his credibility with that statement. When I was in college I had a giant poster of Elvis on the back of the dorm room door(the one where he is in the blue lace-up suit with the sunglasses on). My roomate and the other girls on our floor were NOT Elvis fans so to speak. Yet...everyone of them admitted he could sing and that he was a sexy looking man. My roomate would wake up every morning, sit up in bed and say...."Oh Lord..it's too early in the morning to look at something that sexy. That poster just says HOT & SEXY". Those were her words...not mine.;);):king::king::king:

[KPM]

No doubt that he started something. It was just such an explosive book to read, especially when I had read nothing else as a biography on Elvis. Yikes, I was just blown away by the things which he writes. It was quite obvious then and even more so today, but the contempt in which he writes of his subject is completely astounding.

He even goes as far as saying that Elvis couldn't sing. Now, of all of the things that have been written about Elvis - the drugs, women, guns, tantrums (all which no one denies), the simple fact of claiming that the man couldn't sing was completely crazy!!!!! So, with that simple statement, Goldman loses his credibility completely!!!!!

Even for those who don't consider themselves 'fans' of Elvis, know that the man can sing!!!! From a technical point of view, he has an amazing voice that spans almost 3 octaves which allows him to sing tenor and bass. From a pure emotional point of view, his voice can move a person to tears with the emotion of the likes of no one else ever!!!!
Goldman hated Rock-n-Roll from the start (he was a jazz man) he played up the worst of Elvis because he hated rock and Elvis was the main catalyst to its acceptance. He worked hard to make Elvis appear to be almost an imbecile. He stressed the bad qualities and denied Elvis any good ones.
It was as slanted and one sided as any book I have ever read. He did not even give Elvis credit for talent?????????
Goldmans book on John Lennon was not as harsh-but still the hatred of Rock showed through.

[utmom2008]

He worked hard to make Elvis appear to be almost an imbecile. He stressed the bad qualities and denied Elvis any good ones.
It was as slanted and one sided as any book I have ever read. He did not even give Elvis credit for talent?????????


Is there any truth to the story that when Elvis made his 69 comeback in Las Vegas that Goldman had written a glowing, positive review? Among other things as well...Goldman thought most everyone from the South was an imbecile.(n):angry:(n)

[KPM]

Is there any truth to the story that when Elvis made his 69 comeback in Las Vegas that Goldman had written a glowing, positive review? Among other things as well...Goldman thought most everyone from the South was an imbecile.(n):angry:(n)
I am unsure on that-but now that you brought it up it seems somewhere I have read that also. Here is what Greg Marcus wrote about Goldmans book in his review for the Village Voice:
"The real significance of Goldman's 'Elvis' is its attempt at cultural genocide ... The torrents of hate that drive this book are unrelieved." Furthermore, Marcus particularly objected to Goldman's constant slurs against Presley's background, including his characterization of Presley's parents as "the original Beverly Hillbillies." "It is Goldman's purpose to entirely discredit Elvis Presley, the culture that produced him, and the culture he helped create--to altogether dismiss and condemn, in other words, not just Elvis Presley, but the white working-class South from which he came, and the pop world which emerged in his wake."

[utmom2008]

I am unsure on that-but now that you brought it up it seems somewhere I have read that also. Here is what Greg Marcus wrote about Goldmans book in his review for the Village Voice:
"The real significance of Goldman's 'Elvis' is its attempt at cultural genocide ... The torrents of hate that drive this book are unrelieved." Furthermore, Marcus particularly objected to Goldman's constant slurs against Presley's background, including his characterization of Presley's parents as "the original Beverly Hillbillies." "It is Goldman's purpose to entirely discredit Elvis Presley, the culture that produced him, and the culture he helped create--to altogether dismiss and condemn, in other words, not just Elvis Presley, but the white working-class South from which he came, and the pop world which emerged in his wake."

The guy was obviously a sick and twisted imbecile himself. What year did he die? It's a wonder some Elvis fanatic didn't have him assasinated.:blush: The worst part of the whole book is the fact that there are "fans" who believe alot of what he has to say. I have heard some say as much here at TCB.:blink::blink: I think it was Getlo that mentioned he had written a positive review of his 69 show.....Getlo~are you out there?

[KPM]

The guy was obviously a sick and twisted imbecile himself. What year did he die? It's a wonder some Elvis fanatic didn't have him assasinated.:blush: The worst part of the whole book is the fact that there are "fans" who believe alot of what he has to say. I have heard some say as much here at TCB.:blink::blink: I think it was Getlo that mentioned he had written a positive review of his 69 show.....Getlo~are you out there?
Its the venom he used with each word, the absolute feeling of hate he has for Elvis and anything associated with Elvis-which makes this such a horrid book.

[utmom2008]

Its the venom he used with each word, the absolute feeling of hate he has for Elvis and anything associated with Elvis-which makes this such a horrid book.

Yes, I agree with you. That old expression "spewing venom" was created for the critique of this book. It is an evil, vile piece of work.:angry::angry::angry:

[ehollier]

Is there any truth to the story that when Elvis made his 69 comeback in Las Vegas that Goldman had written a glowing, positive review? Among other things as well...Goldman thought most everyone from the South was an imbecile.(n):angry:(n)

Rosanne, this link, http://www.elvisconcerts.com/newspapers/press15.htm (http://www.elvisconcerts.com/newspapers/press15.htm), will take you to Goldman's review. It really wasn't a favorable review, mostly a tongue-in-cheek description of his 1970 Winter Opening.

[KPM]

Rosanne, this link, http://www.elvisconcerts.com/newspapers/press15.htm (http://www.elvisconcerts.com/newspapers/press15.htm), will take you to Goldman's review. It really wasn't a favorable review, mostly a tongue-in-cheek description of his 1970 Winter Opening.
In reading it I would also not call this a favorable review-it is a great lesson in how to put someone down and make it sound like you aren't. Excerpt:
The climax of Presley's monodrama is tremendous Cecil B. DeMille tableau. The orchestra is silhouetted against a cerulean blue cyclorama while its members are transfigured by rich gold light pouring in from the wings. At the massed musicians sustain a mighty cathedral chord, the Great White Hope falls on one knee in the classic Jolson-gladiator pose, saluting the thousands in the house, - saluting, perhaps, the house, with its three-dimensional putti stringing yards of swagging chifflon between plastic classic columns.

Grander than the "Fountainblue," grosser than Grossinger's, the International Hotel, the ultimate motel, 1,500 rooms redolent more of Howard Johnson than Howard Hughes, has found itself an "attraction" magnetic enough to pull the shut-in generation over 30 out of their ranch houses onto nonstop jets and down in to the Valley of Loose Gold where the King of the Oldy-Moldy-Goldys presided over his people with eternal youth and joy and jamboree
"The King of Oldy-Moldy-Goldys"-what a compliment!

[CRITTERGITTER]

Who said we stopped pulling up grass in the 50's? I have to come home with at least one leaf or stick whenever I go. I don't pull it up if it is live, I try and find something on the drive as I walk up and down for walkup.

[Lainey]

I am SO GLAD that I never read Goldman's book ~ and I have no intention of ever doing so...(n)

[Kris P]

I am SO GLAD that I never read Goldman's book ~ and I have no intention of ever doing so...(n)

It is worth reading as there are many factual stories. The reader just needs to keep a little perspective and bear in mind the authors obvious contempt for his subject.