I need a favor from Elvislady or someone on this board!

[Brian]

I need your help my fellow Elvis fans I was wondering if you could help me with something important. I would like to send 2 questions to Marty Lacker at elvis-express.com I have been trying for a couple of weeks to send him these questions. but have been unable to do so. If anyone is interested in helping me out post a reply and then I will post the questions I would like to send to him. thank you very much i would really appreciate it.

[Merry]

:bye::bye:

Hiya Brian, I'll help you out, go for it?? lol :D

Take care,
Kim

[Genie]

I need your help my fellow Elvis fans I was wondering if you could help me with something important. I would like to send 2 questions to Marty Lacker at elvis-express.com I have been trying for a couple of weeks to send him these questions. but have been unable to do so. If anyone is interested in helping me out post a reply and then I will post the questions I would like to send to him. thank you very much i would really appreciate it.

:blush:
Hello Brian,
I might know the answer to your questions, I am new here but was a long time very very long time poster on AEK.
Now I do not know Mr. Lacker personally, however I do know many people who do.
~Genie

[TotallyInsane]

:blush:
Hello Brian,
I might know the answer to your questions, I am new here but was a long time very very long time poster on AEK.
Now I do not know Mr. Lacker personally, however I do know many people who do.
~Genie

Genie,
What was your connection to Elvis? "Inquiring minds want to know"!!

[elvislady]

brian if you mail joe krein at this address he might be able to help you.
www.elvis2001.net
elvislady:D

[Brian]

I appreciate all the help everyone has given me over here at tcb-world.com

the problem is when I try to send the questions to Marty at elvis-express.com
It won't send it through I have 2 interesting and important questions I would like to ask him I will post my 2 questions below and I was wondering if you would send them for me Elvis lady and would you please type the questions exactly as I have written them I would greatly appreciate it.

1. Sonny West has said in recent interviews that Colonel Parker was friends with President Lyndon Johnson and members of his administration so the Colonel would have asked him personally to fix a passport up for him to go on a world tour however a overseas tour never happened because of Elvis drug problem at the time and the trouble that would cause going through customs.
In the 60's and 70's there were several big name performers who were busted at border crossings and going through airport security with drugs like the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney in Japan, Johnny Cash was caught crossing the Mexican border and was searched and put in a Mexican Jail for two days for carrying legally prescribed drugs. The Colonel was worried the same thing could have happened to Elvis. I have no reason to doubt Sonny West as he always comes across as an honest person and a straight shooter. I don't think the Colonel was a good manager in a lot of ways but has been unfairly blamed on this issue by Elvis biographers,the media and most Elvis fans
My Questions to you Marty are
1. What is your reaction to this?
2. Did you know the Colonel and LBJ were friends and the Colonel was that connected?
3. Have you asked Sonny about this?




2. I had heard from Joe Esposito and Freddy Bienstock that the Beatles asked Colonel Parker to become there manager after Brian epstien died.
I was talking to some Elvis fans about this who basically called me a liar saying the Beatles would have never asked Colonel to manage them. I responded by saying that Mr. Esposito and Mr. Bienstock were there and would know more about than them and I would take Joe's and Mr. Bienstock's word for it. I was wondering Marty if you could confirm to me that the beatles did in fact offer Colonel the job of becoming there manger and that the Colonel turned them down by saying he would like to but didn't have the time?

Thanks Marty for taking the time to answer my questions
I am a fan of yours personally and enjoy your no nonsense tell it like it was approach to answering questions thanks so much.

[ELVIS2001NET]

Brian
I sent Marty your questions.
I also wanted to tell you that the Beatles question is true. I am friends with Charles Stone who worked for Concerts West . He saw a telegram that related to this subject.
joe krein
www.elvis2001.net

[elvislady]

Thanks joe for your help with the questions.
elvislady:D

[Brian]

Brian
I sent Marty your questions.
I also wanted to tell you that the Beatles question is true. I am friends with Charles Stone who worked for Concerts West . He saw a telegram that related to this subject.
joe krein
www.elvis2001.net


Thank you for your help sir
I listen to your show sometimes and I am a fan

[KPM]

I appreciate all the help everyone has given me over here at tcb-world.com

the problem is when I try to send the questions to Marty at elvis-express.com
It won't send it through I have 2 interesting and important questions I would like to ask him I will post my 2 questions below and I was wondering if you would send them for me Elvis lady and would you please type the questions exactly as I have written them I would greatly appreciate it.

1. Sonny West has said in recent interviews that Colonel Parker was friends with President Lyndon Johnson and members of his administration so the Colonel would have asked him personally to fix a passport up for him to go on a world tour however a overseas tour never happened because of Elvis drug problem at the time and the trouble that would cause going through customs.
In the 60's and 70's there were several big name performers who were busted at border crossings and going through airport security with drugs like the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney in Japan, Johnny Cash was caught crossing the Mexican border and was searched and put in a Mexican Jail for two days for carrying legally prescribed drugs. The Colonel was worried the same thing could have happened to Elvis. I have no reason to doubt Sonny West as he always comes across as an honest person and a straight shooter. I don't think the Colonel was a good manager in a lot of ways but has been unfairly blamed on this issue by Elvis biographers,the media and most Elvis fans
My Questions to you Marty are
1. What is your reaction to this?
2. Did you know the Colonel and LBJ were friends and the Colonel was that connected?
3. Have you asked Sonny about this?




2. I had heard from Joe Esposito and Freddy Bienstock that the Beatles asked Colonel Parker to become there manager after Brian epstien died.
I was talking to some Elvis fans about this who basically called me a liar saying the Beatles would have never asked Colonel to manage them. I responded by saying that Mr. Esposito and Mr. Bienstock were there and would know more about than them and I would take Joe's and Mr. Bienstock's word for it. I was wondering Marty if you could confirm to me that the beatles did in fact offer Colonel the job of becoming there manger and that the Colonel turned them down by saying he would like to but didn't have the time?

Thanks Marty for taking the time to answer my questions
I am a fan of yours personally and enjoy your no nonsense tell it like it was approach to answering questions thanks so much.
Many today claim to have been good friends with Elvis and then someone says-"They may have been acquaintances with Elvis but were not close"
I think the same distinction could be made about the Parker/LBJ relationship.
Bob Hope for example was acquainted with 8 or 9 different Presidents- but only claimed a couple were truely friends.
Parker and Johnson were acquaintances.
A newsman asked the Col. point blank one time after seeing the President Johnson and Parker talking in a hotel lobby
"Oh You must know the president pretty well?" Parkers responded
"Well I don't know about that. But he sure knows me doesn't he?"
From all I have read they were total opposites.
LBJ was in the middle of an unpopular war, was only President because JFK was assassinated, he was running a country in the midst of social uprising.
Parker was loud flamboyant and very private about his life away from Elvis he showed little political concern.
IMO Parker also had an ego to match Elvis's and would not want to tarnish his "story" by admitting to anyone he was in the US illegally. That problem of illegal status could have been handled long before Parker ever knew Elvis or Johnson if he had wanted to confront it-it seems (for whatever reason) he did not.
Also I would think Parker would have the sense to see that President Johnson had huge problems much more pressing than working out Parkers illegal status.
Plus, I always got the impression from reading that Parker did not like asking for favors-you did what you agreed to do (on both sides) and nothing more.

[Brian]

Many today claim to have been good friends with Elvis and then someone says-"They may have been acquaintances with Elvis but were not close"
I think the same distinction could be made about the Parker/LBJ relationship.
Bob Hope for example was acquainted with 8 or 9 different Presidents- but only claimed a couple were truely friends.
Parker and Johnson were acquaintances.
A newsman asked the Col. point blank one time after seeing the President Johnson and Parker talking in a hotel lobby
"Oh You must know the president pretty well?" Parkers responded
"Well I don't know about that. But he sure knows me doesn't he?"
From all I have read they were total opposites.
LBJ was in the middle of an unpopular war, was only President because JFK was assassinated, he was running a country in the midst of social uprising.
Parker was loud flamboyant and very private about his life away from Elvis he showed little political concern.
IMO Parker also had an ego to match Elvis's and would not want to tarnish his "story" by admitting to anyone he was in the US illegally. That problem of illegal status could have been handled long before Parker ever knew Elvis or Johnson if he had wanted to confront it-it seems (for whatever reason) he did not.
Also I would think Parker would have the sense to see that President Johnson had huge problems much more pressing than working out Parkers illegal status.
Plus, I always got the impression from reading that Parker did not like asking for favors-you did what you agreed to do (on both sides) and nothing more.

KPM the Colonel knew LBJ for quite a long time close to 20 years and they were indeed good friends I really wasn't wanting to discuss this with anyone because I proved it that they were indeed pretty good friends on another message board and people still couldn't get their head wrapped around it because people have been told that the reason Elvis didn't tour the world was because of Colonel's illegal alien status when they hear that is not true they don't want to believe it. Sonny West who knew Elvis for 20 years and the Colonel for longer says the Colonel would have asked his friend the president to fix a passport up for him I believe him.
Colonel parker was indeed a very connected man who knew 5 president's personally, Senators, governors, Supreme court justices all kinds of people
I can provide a link for you where the Colonel talks about himself and talks about some of the people he knew. Again I don't really want to get into a heated discussion about this as people on another message board has basically called me a liar and a misinformed person over both the Beatles asking the Colonel to be there manager and Elvis drug and personal problems as the real reason for no world tour. You can believe me or not believe it but it is the truth.

[Genie]

Genie,
What was your connection to Elvis? "Inquiring minds want to know"!!


;)

Yes, inquiring minds have always wanted to know. Then I tell them...on AEK for almost 5 years and I receive nothing but "NOT SO" Liar liar pants on fire" LOL
Just believe that I know the man, excuse me, I knew the man.. he was wonderful... I am a retired Vet and I also sadly, due to an illness, a retired RN
I have several connections to Elvis, and to some of his friends and/or so called friends....
What would you like me to help you with? Anything special on your mind?
I definately do not wish to get into any squabbles here, and I prefer also not to toss any disrespect for Marty Lacker or anyone else. I also :notworthy
will bow to no one.
You can understand I hope that I dislike very much when I am called a liar, and I also dislike "Proving" who I am. Some of us like to be unknown.
And compared to many others, I admit that I am pretty much unknown.
Sassy enough to get tossed off of here, and I am not going to let that happen. So I will remain a mystery and a lady.
~Genie

[Lisarose]

Great questions, Brian, keep us updated on any responses I hope you get!

[Brian]

Mr. Joe Krein I would like to say my appreciation to you one more time if I may thanks for your help. If you read this I was wondering if you would do me another small favor. I know you sometimes post on elvis-collectors.com
I started a thread over there called ''Colonel Parker and the Beatles'' I told everyone over there that the Colonel was indeed offered the job to manage the Beatles after there manager died. I had know this for years as I had heard a lot of people connected with Elvis say this and it's in books written about the Colonel. Immediatelly there was a poster named Dr.Johncarpenter
and a couple of others who discredited everything I was saying by replying back to me that because Elvis career was doing so poorly in 1967 that the beatles never wrote a letter or approached him about it. Dr.johncarpenter is a real know it all and a jerk he automatically replies to me almost everytime I say something by saying I ask that you refrain from posting fantasy over fact and there is no evidence to support my claims. Normally it wouldn't bother me but it has become real annoying because he does it everytime. I was just wondering if you coud post over there again and tell dr.johncarpenter that I am 100% right about it and he is 100% wrong. since you know the Beatles did in fact offer Colonel the Job. it is listed in the off topic section.
If you could do me this small favor for me I will be forever grateful thankyou

[ELVIS2001NET]

Brian
There are some people that no matter what you say or do . they are not going to beleive you. Carpentor does not like to be proved wrong. so no matter what you say to him . he is going to diagree. but as long as you know the truth . thats all that matters.
i will say to you again. Charles Stone who worked for Concerts West saw the telegram from the boys asking if he would be there manager.
joe k
www.elvis2001.net

[Brian]

Thanks for the advice Mr. Krein

[TotallyInsane]

Thanks for the advice Mr. Krein


Brian,
In the Elvis world - that's the best advice you will get!!!! Don't let people like that bother you - there's always some that "know more" (or at least they think they do)!!!

[ELVIS2001NET]

Please call me Joe
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net

[Brian]

Hi Joe K

I was wondering if I ever would like to ask some questions to Marty would you send them to Marty for me?

I would do it myself but my computer won't send the questions for some reason. I was wondering if that would be a problem for you

I also have 2 questions I would like to ask you personally, since you know Charlie Stone personally you might know the answer I was wondering if it was true that besides the Beatles Colonel Parker was approached by Tanya Tuckers Dad Bo (when Tanya Tucker first started in showbusiness at 13) to be her manager but he also turned her down.

I know you or your website has interviewed Sonny West before and I was just wondering if you ever do again could you ask him to elaborate more about the Colonel's friendship with Lyndon Johnson as I am just curious about it and Sonny was the one that brought it to my attention in the first place.

[ELVIS2001NET]

Brian i just posted on the FECC what i got from loanne. mrs . Parker

joe k
www.elvis2001.net

[cameron]

Brian
There are some people that no matter what you say or do . they are not going to beleive you. Carpentor does not like to be proved wrong. so no matter what you say to him . he is going to diagree. but as long as you know the truth . thats all that matters.
i will say to you again. Charles Stone who worked for Concerts West saw the telegram from the boys asking if he would be there manager.
joe k
www.elvis2001.net

From what I've seen from Carpenter, I'd have to agree.
He only thinks he knows it all.
Ignore him ,if you can.

[cameron]

A link about JC ;)

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/interview_josephpirzada_2008.html

[KPM]

KPM the Colonel knew LBJ for quite a long time close to 20 years and they were indeed good friends I really wasn't wanting to discuss this with anyone because I proved it that they were indeed pretty good friends on another message board and people still couldn't get their head wrapped around it because people have been told that the reason Elvis didn't tour the world was because of Colonel's illegal alien status when they hear that is not true they don't want to believe it. Sonny West who knew Elvis for 20 years and the Colonel for longer says the Colonel would have asked his friend the president to fix a passport up for him I believe him.
Colonel parker was indeed a very connected man who knew 5 president's personally, Senators, governors, Supreme court justices all kinds of people
I can provide a link for you where the Colonel talks about himself and talks about some of the people he knew. Again I don't really want to get into a heated discussion about this as people on another message board has basically called me a liar and a misinformed person over both the Beatles asking the Colonel to be there manager and Elvis drug and personal problems as the real reason for no world tour. You can believe me or not believe it but it is the truth.
We will have to disagree on this my friend.
I think if Parker wanted to get his illegal status in order-and it was as easy as you imply-he would have. The fact is he never did and-never tried. The offers for Elvis to perform overseas were not just in the 70s-yet Parker turned them down way back to the 50s before any drug problem. Parker handled Eddy Arnold and Hank Snow-and neither of them were ever booked under Parker out of the country. Now for Snow that is not a surprise but Eddy Arnold was a country superstar who sold millions of records in the 40s and 50s-he was never even booked in Mexico or Canada by Parker.
Sure I agree the Col. knew many people-but I would say it is debateable as far as the term "connected" which to me implies something else. I know the Mayor of a nearby town-I have several times had drinks with him and discussed politics-but I am not connected- he is not going to fix any tickets nor zoning problems for me-but I have known him for 15 years. Parker the ultimate con man/promotor would naturally talk up who he knew-because thats how you promote yourself. How close would he have stayed to any political people by admitting he had been an illegal alien for his whole stay in the US? In order to get a passport He would have to explain the reasoning for staying an illegal alien and not taking care of the problems years before. I have a question-what did Parker gain by not taking care of it years before? If it was as simple as implied-why did he not just do it?It would seem that in 1960 when Elvis returned from the Army-that would have been a good time to straighten it out-in case in the future he needed to travel outside the US in his job as Elvis's manager. Makes absolute sense to me. Elvis said a world tour was being planned before he went into the service-surely Parker would have got the ball rolling to be able to travel out of the US then-but he did not?
I would never call anyone a liar so you have no worry about that my friend. But we do not see this the same.
Sonny saying Parker could have asked for a Passport and got one-is that not speculation on Sonnys part. He is guessing it could have been done-and no one can know what may have happened. I am not being argumentative thats how I see it.

[cameron]

I'd have to agree with you, Ken.
I have The Col. book. IF Parker had wanted it done, he would have did it .
http://books.google.com/books?id=2-HvQBbihNkC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=Tom+Parker+medical+discharge&source=web&ots=rsAywlZ5Lp&sig=lUD6F9yfTVPCGETXZoBqvtZfG6Y&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result
IMO, Parker was afraid to go out of the US. For several reasons.
His past from his own country , but his diagnosis on his discharge didn't help.
I STILL can't figure out how he got in the service here .:doh:

[Brian]

We will have to disagree on this my friend.
I think if Parker wanted to get his illegal status in order-and it was as easy as you imply-he would have. The fact is he never did and-never tried. The offers for Elvis to perform overseas were not just in the 70s-yet Parker turned them down way back to the 50s before any drug problem. Parker handled Eddy Arnold and Hank Snow-and neither of them were ever booked under Parker out of the country. Now for Snow that is not a surprise but Eddy Arnold was a country superstar who sold millions of records in the 40s and 50s-he was never even booked in Mexico or Canada by Parker.
Sure I agree the Col. knew many people-but I would say it is debateable as far as the term "connected" which to me implies something else. I know the Mayor of a nearby town-I have several times had drinks with him and discussed politics-but I am not connected- he is not going to fix any tickets nor zoning problems for me-but I have known him for 15 years. Parker the ultimate con man/promotor would naturally talk up who he knew-because thats how you promote yourself. How close would he have stayed to any political people by admitting he had been an illegal alien for his whole stay in the US? In order to get a passport He would have to explain the reasoning for staying an illegal alien and not taking care of the problems years before. I have a question-what did Parker gain by not taking care of it years before? If it was as simple as implied-why did he not just do it?It would seem that in 1960 when Elvis returned from the Army-that would have been a good time to straighten it out-in case in the future he needed to travel outside the US in his job as Elvis's manager. Makes absolute sense to me. Elvis said a world tour was being planned before he went into the service-surely Parker would have got the ball rolling to be able to travel out of the US then-but he did not?
I would never call anyone a liar so you have no worry about that my friend. But we do not see this the same.
Sonny saying Parker could have asked for a Passport and got one-is that not speculation on Sonnys part. He is guessing it could have been done-and no one can know what may have happened. I am not being argumentative thats how I see it.

Hi KPM

Sonny isn't making any speculation he knew the Colonel very well and from what I have heard from Lynda Johnson Robb (LBJ's daughter) who was interviewed by Alanna Nash says that the Colonel and LBJ were very good friends enough to exchange gifts and Colonel Parker was the one who gave
LBJ his 1964 Campaign slogan ''All the Way with LBJ'' Colonel parker knew 5 presidents in his lifetime (FDR,Truman,LBJ Regan and Clinton) was friends with several senators and governors, members of LBj's administration, a couple of JFK's aides. He was indeed one connected man. I think a lot of Elvis fans read too much into Colonel being illegal do you think they would have deported Elvis presley manager? The government did not deport him when they found out he was illegal. I appreciate your nice words Kpm and Cameron it's nice to talk with nice and respectful people and not the self proclaimed Elvis expert Dr. John Carpenter

P.S. Hawaii did not become a state until 1959 Elvis played there in 1957 the Colonel went with him. Elvis was pretty busy making movies in the 60's
Eddy Arnold did play Europe in 1948

[KPM]

Hi KPM

Sonny isn't making any speculation he knew the Colonel very well and from what I have heard from Lynda Johnson Robb (LBJ's daughter) who was interviewed by Alanna Nash says that the Colonel and LBJ were very good friends enough to exchange gifts and Colonel Parker was the one who gave
LBJ his 1964 Campaign slogan ''All the Way with LBJ'' Colonel parker knew 5 presidents in his lifetime (FDR,Truman,LBJ Regan and Clinton) was friends with several senators and governors, members of LBj's administration, a couple of JFK's aides. He was indeed one connected man. I think a lot of Elvis fans read too much into Colonel being illegal do you think they would have deported Elvis presley manager? The government did not deport him when they found out he was illegal. I appreciate your nice words Kpm and Cameron it's nice to talk with nice and respectful people and not the self proclaimed Elvis expert Dr. John Carpenter

P.S. Hawaii did not become a state until 1959 Elvis played there in 1957 the Colonel went with him. Elvis was pretty busy making movies in the 60's
Eddy Arnold did play Europe in 1948
Well Brian as I said Brian we will respectfully have to disagree on this. ;)
Sonnys comments on something which did not happen-to me are speculation.
The Col. never attempted to get citizenship-through normal avenues, or through Johnson etc....... So IMO since it never happened Sonny is guessing as to what Johnson would have done -if Col. Parker had asked him for help.-(which I stress he never did at least as far as has been reported that I can find) Parker and Elvis sent gifts to people all the time on a regular basis-so I would not find it strange that Parker sent gifts to LBJ because he sent them to many people of varying degrees of familiarity.
As I pointed out Bob Hope knew a lot of Presidents, attended state dinners with them, stayed over in the White House several times, entertained for them -but he only considered a couple as more than acquintances.
You are correct on Hawaii not being a state in 1957-but it was a US Territory so no passports were needed.
The comment on Eddy Arnold in Europe is a new one to me-I did a pretty good internet search a while back on Arnold and Snow to see if they had ever played outside the US when Parker managed each and could come up with nothing-but if you have info he did-one thing I'm sure Parker did not go with him for the tour.
So you see we disagree, you feel the illegal status is over stated and I feel if it was that simple for him to get legal status (as Sonny says) then what stopped him. I mean if for nothing else but doing the right thing and piece of mind.
You say they would not have exported Elvis Presleys manager and I agree-so why did he not just straighten it out ? In 1958 he could have straightened it out so he could visit Elvis in Germany- he did not. He was offered big money several times in the 60s for Elvis to perform, but never attempted to set it right in case an offer came that was just too much to pass on. The problem for me is why did he never do it?
See to me its common sense-when something does not make common sense to me I have to ask what was the hangup.
IMO for some reason he did not want to address this problem-the truth is he kept this part of his life pretty close to his vest for most of his life. His own family in the Netherlands thought he was dead for years and years?
Sorry my friend I just have to disagree, but you make some good points.

[ELVIS2001NET]

ITS GREAT TO SEE TWO OR THREE ADULTS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH OUT TEMPERS AND EGOS GETTING IN THE WAY>
JOE KREIN
www.elvis2001.net

[TotallyInsane]

Very interesting discussions going on here!! No name calling - what a delight!!!

[Brian]

Hi again Kpm


Thank you for disagreeing with me in a nice way and not calling me a liar like the phoney Dr. always does just because I know something he doesn't.

In regards to overseas travel or performing in places outside of the U.S.
Colonel Parker did in fact go with Elvis to Canada when Elvis played there in 1957. you didn't need a passport to get in to Canada back then so the Colonel could have arranged for Hank Snow to play there as well. Given the fact that Mr. Snow was a native Canadian and popular in Canada the Colonel should have booked him.

I found in an Eddy Arnold Bio that he did tour Europe in 1948 that seems very likely to me as Mr. Arnold was a major crossover artist during that time like Garth Brooks was in the 1990's

I agree with you I would have gotten it taken care of sooner Sonny was saying that Colonel's illegal alien status was not and never was an issue and Colonel was never worried about it like it has been claimed by many people.
The United states government may have or may not have deported a no name Tom Parker but they would never deport a famous person and Elvis presley's Manager Colonel Tom Parker who was famous in his own right.
Sonny was saying that the Colonel was good friends with all these government people not just acquaintances
LBJ thought a lot of the Colonel they seemed to be pretty tight
I asked Joe (thanks again Joe) for help in confirming that LBJ and Colonel were friends he got in touch with Mrs. Parker who says that LBJ use to visit Colonel in his home when he could, when his schedule permitted.
Sonny said that the Colonel would have admitted to LBJ that he was illegal and asked him to fix things up for him to leave the country and get back in so he wouldn't have to fill out the paperwork.
LBJ probably would have been surprised at first to learn Colonel was not American born but then would have indeed helped him out. I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ gave Colonel a gold plated passport.(LOL)

Elvis was real busy in the 60's he was obligated to make 2-3 films a year in the 60's his contracts ran out in 1969 so that's when he started performing again.

I hope this information helps you KPM
If you have any questions or disagreements with me I will be happy to talk to you again.
I am confident I can convince you and bring you over to my side on this issue.

[mislulu]

See Elvis fans can have disagreements and still get along. (y)

[Brian]

btw Cameron and Elvislady I started a Colonel Parker and Beatles thread in the off topic section I would like to get your thoughts and opinions on it or anyone else thoughts and opinions if they would like to participate.

[KPM]

Hi again Kpm


Thank you for disagreeing with me in a nice way and not calling me a liar like the phoney Dr. always does just because I know something he doesn't.

In regards to overseas travel or performing in places outside of the U.S.
Colonel Parker did in fact go with Elvis to Canada when Elvis played there in 1957. you didn't need a passport to get in to Canada back then so the Colonel could have arranged for Hank Snow to play there as well. Given the fact that Mr. Snow was a native Canadian and popular in Canada the Colonel should have booked him.

I found in an Eddy Arnold Bio that he did tour Europe in 1948 that seems very likely to me as Mr. Arnold was a major crossover artist during that time like Garth Brooks was in the 1990's

I agree with you I would have gotten it taken care of sooner Sonny was saying that Colonel's illegal alien status was not and never was an issue and Colonel was never worried about it like it has been claimed by many people.
The United states government may have or may not have deported a no name Tom Parker but they would never deport a famous person and Elvis presley's Manager Colonel Tom Parker who was famous in his own right.
Sonny was saying that the Colonel was good friends with all these government people not just acquaintances
LBJ thought a lot of the Colonel they seemed to be pretty tight
I asked Joe (thanks again Joe) for help in confirming that LBJ and Colonel were friends he got in touch with Mrs. Parker who says that LBJ use to visit Colonel in his home when he could, when his schedule permitted.
Sonny said that the Colonel would have admitted to LBJ that he was illegal and asked him to fix things up for him to leave the country and get back in so he wouldn't have to fill out the paperwork.
LBJ probably would have been surprised at first to learn Colonel was not American born but then would have indeed helped him out. I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ gave Colonel a gold plated passport.(LOL)

Elvis was real busy in the 60's he was obligated to make 2-3 films a year in the 60's his contracts ran out in 1969 so that's when he started performing again.I hope this information helps you KPM
If you have any questions or disagreements with me I will be happy to talk to you again.
I am confident I can convince you and bring you over to my side on this issue.
I'm afraid Brian you and I are making the same arguments over and over again-neither of us is making any headway. Neither of us is going to change the others mind-(I'm not really trying to change your mind though I'm just giving my thoughts as I see it from all I've read and heard)
As far as Mrs. Parkers comments-I would only say that since the heart of the argument is did Col. keep Elvis from touring overseas because of his lack of citizenship-she would naturally back up the idea that LBJ was so close.
I did some looking in 2 biographys on LBJ I have in my political books-neither mention the Col. anywhere. (one is written by noted Presidential historian Doris Kearns. Kearns did 3 years of research for this book "Lyndon Johnson-and theAmerican Dream" and Parker is not mentioned at all- even in connection to the slogan All the Way with LBJ)
We are still dealing with speculation IMO-If Parker had actually asked LBJ to help him-then we would know how close they truely were by LBJs actions. Parker never did, he kept his status quiet to practically everyone. I realise Elvis was contractually bound to 2-3 pictures a year (I went to see them when they came out;))
But some of the offers were for single performances. It made no difference the COl. turned them all down.
Elvis had months where he was not making films, a single show at Wembley stadium in England could surely have been arranged -thats an offer I recall reading somewhere. Alex Shoofey, the President of the International for years, was present when a promotor asked what the Col. wanted to get Elvis overseas-Parker began asking for the moon and this guy kept agreeing, Parker just kept upping the ante but the guy kept agreeing it went on and on-finally the Col. said "We don't want to go to Europe" Shoofey could not believe it.
The one huge question which looms always in my mind is what I have already stated-
"If it was so simple why did he never do it?"
If as Sonny claims Parker never worried about it-why was it not common knowledge to everyone? (including the MM)-no reason to keep it secret if if does not worry him. To me the answer seems simple-the Col. did not want to deal with it nor have it common knowledge-something about it worried him enough to not do it.
The book which broke the story came out in 1995 but led to a second book by Alanna Nash-Nash had interviewed Colonel Parker but her examination into his life kept unfolding with so many twists and turns that it led to six years of exhaustive research including travel to his birthplace Breda in the Netherlands for documents and interviews. Her book, The Colonel: The Extraordinary Story of Colonel Tom Parker and Elvis Presley, was published on July 15, 2003 to extraordinary acclaim with publications such as Billboard magazine calling it a "classic of music industry reporting". Most insiders were amazed at this unknown side to the Col.
Having been a fan for over 45 years I have changed my thoughts several times on many subjects and am open to hearing others-but as I said you and I just see this in a differing way my friend.:blush:

[ELVIS2001NET]

I'm afraid Brian you and I are making the same arguments over and over again-neither of us is making any headway. Neither of us is going to change the others mind-(I'm not really trying to change your mind though I'm just giving my thoughts as I see it from all I've read and heard)
As far as Mrs. Parkers comments-I would only say that since the heart of the argument is did Col. keep Elvis from touring overseas because of his lack of citizenship-she would naturally back up the idea that LBJ was so close.
I did some looking in 2 biographys on LBJ I have in my political books-neither mention the Col. anywhere. (one is written by noted Presidential historian Doris Kearns. Kearns did 3 years of research for this book "Lyndon Johnson-and theAmerican Dream" and Parker is not mentioned at all- even in connection to the slogan All the Way with LBJ)
We are still dealing with speculation IMO-If Parker had actually asked LBJ to help him-then we would know how close they truely were by LBJs actions. Parker never did, he kept his status quiet to practically everyone. I realise Elvis was contractually bound to 2-3 pictures a year (I went to see them when they came out;))
But some of the offers were for single performances. It made no difference the COl. turned them all down.
Elvis had months where he was not making films, a single show at Wembley stadium in England could surely have been arranged -thats an offer I recall reading somewhere. Alex Shoofey, the President of the International for years, was present when a promotor asked what the Col. wanted to get Elvis overseas-Parker began asking for the moon and this guy kept agreeing, Parker just kept upping the ante but the guy kept agreeing it went on and on-finally the Col. said "We don't want to go to Europe" Shoofey could not believe it.
The one huge question which looms always in my mind is what I have already stated-
"If it was so simple why did he never do it?"
If as Sonny claims Parker never worried about it-why was it not common knowledge to everyone? (including the MM)-no reason to keep it secret if if does not worry him. To me the answer seems simple-the Col. did not want to deal with it nor have it common knowledge-something about it worried him enough to not do it.
The book which broke the story came out in 1995 but led to a second book by Alanna Nash-Nash had interviewed Colonel Parker but her examination into his life kept unfolding with so many twists and turns that it led to six years of exhaustive research including travel to his birthplace Breda in the Netherlands for documents and interviews. Her book, The Colonel: The Extraordinary Story of Colonel Tom Parker and Elvis Presley, was published on July 15, 2003 to extraordinary acclaim with publications such as Billboard magazine calling it a "classic of music industry reporting". Most insiders were amazed at this unknown side to the Col.
Having been a fan for over 45 years I have changed my thoughts several times on many subjects and am open to hearing others-but as I said you and I just see this in a differing way my friend.:blush:

on page 115 in the "GRACELANDS ARCHIVE AUCTION CATALOG"

THERE ARE TWO BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOS THAT WERE SIGNED TO THERE FRIEND col tom parker. THE PHOTOS ARE JOHN F KENNEDY AND Lyndon B Johnson. the following is what is written in the catalog. COLONEL TOM PARKER HAD FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES , NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WERE 35TH AND 36TH PRESIDENTS OF THE U.S.

THE JOHNSON PHOTO IS SIGNED . TO COLONEL TOM PARKER WITH WARM (CANT MAKE IT OUT) FROM HIS FRIEND LYNDON B JOHNSON

this plus knowing Mrs Parker , i have have never known her to lie.
I KNOW THIS STILL WILL NOT BE ENOUGH SO I WILL KEEP HITTING THE BOOKS.

Joe K
www.elvis2001.net

[KPM]

on page 115 in the "GRACELANDS ARCHIVE AUCTION CATALOG"

THERE ARE TWO BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOS THAT WERE SIGNED TO THERE FRIEND col tom parker. THE PHOTOS ARE JOHN F KENNEDY AND Lyndon B Johnson. the following is what is written in the catalog. COLONEL TOM PARKER HAD FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES , NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WERE 35TH AND 36TH PRESIDENTS OF THE U.S.
THE JOHNSON PHOTO IS SIGNED . TO COLONEL TOM PARKER WITH WARM (CANT MAKE IT OUT) FROM HIS FRIEND LYNDON B JOHNSON

this plus knowing Mrs Parker , i have have never known her to lie.
I KNOW THIS STILL WILL NOT BE ENOUGH SO I WILL KEEP HITTING THE BOOKS.

Joe K
www.elvis2001.net
Please do not misunderstand my point-I am not doubting that Parker knew powerful people-but that does not necessarily translate into
"heartfelt, go to the ends of the earth type friendships where you can ask huge favors with little question"
Those type friendships-where you go on hunting trips, or regularly have dinner with the family etc...I do not see that type friendship in what I have read on Johnson, Kennedy or Parker.
I have a a couple dozen books going back 40 years on Kennedy (only have the 2 on Johnson)-I can say pretty much with confidence Parker or Elvis are not mentioned in any that I can recall. I would think that in the context we have been discussing Johnson and Parker-there would be some mention-if they were more than friendly acquaitances with limited contact. Some of the Kennedy books I have not read for 40 years- but I will give them a look as I can to make sure neither are mentioned.
I mean IMO Parker not taking action about his status is the heart of my doubts.
If I was handling the worlds hottest star-I would think we may need to go overseas. Long before the drugs were an overwhelming problem-what kept him from preparing by taking care of the illegal status situation. With all due respect-if it was as simple as a phone call to LBJ, that makes it equally suspicious that he never did so.
So IMO either he did not feel the friendship was as close as portrayed-or (for what ever his reasons) he did not want to face it.
I mean no disrespect in sticking to my opinion-I just believe it.

[Brian]

I'm afraid Brian you and I are making the same arguments over and over again-neither of us is making any headway. Neither of us is going to change the others mind-(I'm not really trying to change your mind though I'm just giving my thoughts as I see it from all I've read and heard)
As far as Mrs. Parkers comments-I would only say that since the heart of the argument is did Col. keep Elvis from touring overseas because of his lack of citizenship-she would naturally back up the idea that LBJ was so close.
I did some looking in 2 biographys on LBJ I have in my political books-neither mention the Col. anywhere. (one is written by noted Presidential historian Doris Kearns. Kearns did 3 years of research for this book "Lyndon Johnson-and theAmerican Dream" and Parker is not mentioned at all- even in connection to the slogan All the Way with LBJ)
We are still dealing with speculation IMO-If Parker had actually asked LBJ to help him-then we would know how close they truely were by LBJs actions. Parker never did, he kept his status quiet to practically everyone. I realise Elvis was contractually bound to 2-3 pictures a year (I went to see them when they came out;))
But some of the offers were for single performances. It made no difference the COl. turned them all down.
Elvis had months where he was not making films, a single show at Wembley stadium in England could surely have been arranged -thats an offer I recall reading somewhere. Alex Shoofey, the President of the International for years, was present when a promotor asked what the Col. wanted to get Elvis overseas-Parker began asking for the moon and this guy kept agreeing, Parker just kept upping the ante but the guy kept agreeing it went on and on-finally the Col. said "We don't want to go to Europe" Shoofey could not believe it.
The one huge question which looms always in my mind is what I have already stated-
"If it was so simple why did he never do it?"
If as Sonny claims Parker never worried about it-why was it not common knowledge to everyone? (including the MM)-no reason to keep it secret if if does not worry him. To me the answer seems simple-the Col. did not want to deal with it nor have it common knowledge-something about it worried him enough to not do it.
The book which broke the story came out in 1995 but led to a second book by Alanna Nash-Nash had interviewed Colonel Parker but her examination into his life kept unfolding with so many twists and turns that it led to six years of exhaustive research including travel to his birthplace Breda in the Netherlands for documents and interviews. Her book, The Colonel: The Extraordinary Story of Colonel Tom Parker and Elvis Presley, was published on July 15, 2003 to extraordinary acclaim with publications such as Billboard magazine calling it a "classic of music industry reporting". Most insiders were amazed at this unknown side to the Col.
Having been a fan for over 45 years I have changed my thoughts several times on many subjects and am open to hearing others-but as I said you and I just see this in a differing way my friend.:blush:

How are you doing Kpm it's good to talk with you

It's illogical to assume that every personal friend or aquictance of President Johnson's would get a mention in Major biographies there would be too many to mention.
same thing with Elvis does Pat Boone or Jackie Deshannon or Sammy Davis get a mention in every Elvis bio

Colonel Parker didn't have anything to do with LBJ's political career

Those biographies have to do with LBJ's political career.

Sonny was saying that Colonel would have asked LBJ to fix things up for him
had Elvis not had drug problems, he would have had an impossible job of going through customs. It's ironic that it was Elvis and not the Colonel after all that would have had trouble getting in an out of other countries.
You can't change my mind about this I am 100% certain of everything I have said regarding this however I am still confident I can get you to jump ship.
He wasn't worried about it fans and biographers read too much into it
Colonel Parker was not a stupid man he knew the United States would never deport him. I have seen many celebrities get away with all kinds of things worse than what Colonel Parker did.

I will talk with you again soon

[KPM]

How are you doing Kpm it's good to talk with you

It's illogical to assume that every personal friend or aquictance of President Johnson's would get a mention in Major biographies there would be too many to mention.
same thing with Elvis does Pat Boone or Jackie Deshannon or Sammy Davis get a mention in every Elvis bio

Colonel Parker didn't have anything to do with LBJ's political career

Those biographies have to do with LBJ's political career.

Sonny was saying that Colonel would have asked LBJ to fix things up for him
had Elvis not had drug problems, he would have had an impossible job of going through customs. It's ironic that it was Elvis and not the Colonel after all that would have had trouble getting in an out of other countries.
You can't change my mind about this I am 100% certain of everything I have said regarding this however I am still confident I can get you to jump ship.
He wasn't worried about it fans and biographers read too much into it
Colonel Parker was not a stupid man he knew the United States would never deport him. I have seen many celebrities get away with all kinds of things worse than what Colonel Parker did.

I will talk with you again soon
I agree the Col. was not stupid-which IMO makes the idea that he never took care of this so absurd. We are speculating if Elvis could or could not have left the country-yet the unmistakeable fact is Parker definetly could not. He had ample time to get his situation in order. I would say in 1960 Elvis could have gone overseas with little problem, 1969 to say 1971 I also think would have been possible while Elvis was motivated and engaged in his career. Its a little funny to me the idea huge amounts of drugs would have to be smuggled through customs-I mean they have doctors and pharmacies overseas, any need Elvis would have had-could have been dealt with overthere. Its not like McCartney, Jaggar, and their pot problems etc....
Once again Brian my friend-I'm not trying to change your mind. If you believe it thats good. My thoughts are not something I just came up with on this subject-I mean I have given this some careful thought. I'm sure you have as well. We will have to agree to disagree on this.;)

[Brian]

I agree the Col. was not stupid-which IMO makes the idea that he never took care of this so absurd. We are speculating if Elvis could or could not have left the country-yet the unmistakeable fact is Parker definetly could not. He had ample time to get his situation in order. I would say in 1960 Elvis could have gone overseas with little problem, 1969 to say 1971 I also think would have been possible while Elvis was motivated and engaged in his career. Its a little funny to me the idea huge amounts of drugs would have to be smuggled through customs-I mean they have doctors and pharmacies overseas, any need Elvis would have had-could have been dealt with overthere. Its not like McCartney, Jaggar, and their pot problems etc....
Once again Brian my friend-I'm not trying to change your mind. If you believe it thats good. My thoughts are not something I just came up with on this subject-I mean I have given this some careful thought. I'm sure you have as well. We will have to agree to disagree on this.;)


It wasn't just an illegal drug problem remember Johnny Cash got busted for Carrying Legally prescribed prescription drugs one or two pill bottles
Elvis carried more than that. Plus Elvis carrying all of those firearms he carried that would have been a problem.
When Elvis came back from the army he started making movies immediately he started shooting GI blues in April 1960, Flaming Star in August 1960, Wild in the Country October 1960 that keep him very busy. Remember Elvis didn't do a U.S. tour at all during the 60's he just didn't have time.
Colonel Parker could have gotten taken care of anytime he wanted
I ask that you please think about?
P.S. Did you know that the Colonel had sent Charlie stone to Europe to look at venues for a possible European tour in 1978
It wouldn't have happened though because of Elvis drug problems he would have had to get clean first and then go

If you read pages 38, 69, 187, 189, 326 in Alanna Nash book you will find out more about Colonels relationship with LBJ

[KPM]

It wasn't just an illegal drug problem remember Johnny Cash got busted for Carrying Legally prescribed prescription drugs one or two pill bottles
Elvis carried more than that. Plus Elvis carrying all of those firearms he carried that would have been a problem.
When Elvis came back from the army he started making movies immediately he started shooting GI blues in April 1960, Flaming Star in August 1960, Wild in the Country October 1960 that keep him very busy. Remember Elvis didn't do a U.S. tour at all during the 60's he just didn't have time.
Colonel Parker could have gotten taken care of anytime he wanted
I ask that you please think about?P.S. Did you know that the Colonel had sent Charlie stone to Europe to look at venues for a possible European tour in 1978
It wouldn't have happened though because of Elvis drug problems he would have had to get clean first and then go

If you read pages 38, 69, 187, 189, 326 in Alanna Nash book you will find out more about Colonels relationship with LBJ
I have thought about this. If Parker was actually looking for European venues-that even makes less senseIMO-1969-1971 when Elvis was fit, healthy and had the drug problem under better control Parker- but was not looking for venues-then in 1977 he is looking for a possible world tour when Elvis was unhealthy, overweight, and his drug problem the worst? I ask you does that make sense"
I have always seen Parker as a very manipulative person who knew what buttons to push. Since you mentioned an Eddy Arnold biography you have to know for years after "Eddy fired Parker" Arnold would not talk about him? It was not until the 70s that Eddy mellowed in his opinion of Parker.
Hal Kantar screenwriter and director said of Parker, he would not trust him as far as he could see him. He spent much time with Elvis and Parker leading up to his writing "Loving You" and he felt Parker always put Parker first nomatter how it appeared. Its fruitless for us to keep going over this. I respect your thoughts I just do not agree.;)

[Brian]

I have thought about this. If Parker was actually looking for European venues-that even makes less senseIMO-1969-1971 when Elvis was fit, healthy and had the drug problem under better control Parker- but was not looking for venues-then in 1977 he is looking for a possible world tour when Elvis was unhealthy, overweight, and his drug problem the worst? I ask you does that make sense"
I have always seen Parker as a very manipulative person who knew what buttons to push. Since you mentioned an Eddy Arnold biography you have to know for years after "Eddy fired Parker" Arnold would not talk about him? It was not until the 70s that Eddy mellowed in his opinion of Parker.
Hal Kantar screenwriter and director said of Parker, he would not trust him as far as he could see him. He spent much time with Elvis and Parker leading up to his writing "Loving You" and he felt Parker always put Parker first nomatter how it appeared. Its fruitless for us to keep going over this. I respect your thoughts I just do not agree.;)

That's not true about Colonel Parker and Eddy Arnold
There is a picture of Colonel parker and Eddy Arnold in Alanna Nash book from 1959.
It is 100% true that Colonel was looking at venues for a European tour in 1978
Joe K will confirm it

[Brian]

http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/mediaplayer.aspx?t=audio&w=2259

[Brian]

http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_sonny_west.shtml

[cameron]

http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_sonny_west.shtml

There's not much Sonny says that I believe. ;)

[presley31]

There's not much Sonny says that I believe. ;)

Me either Cameron. I take lots l read with a grain of salt.

[Unchained Melody]

There's not much Sonny says that I believe. ;)

And why would you believe something that someone has to say who was with Elvis for years upon years.

Anyhow, I don' think it would have been that easy for Parker to get a passport by just asking for it....:hmm:

[TotallyInsane]

It probably would have been a heck of lot easier to get a passport back then than it is now.

[ELVIS2001NET]

here is my last email that i got from Mrs Parker.
lol
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net


Colonel didn't go to Lyndon Johnson's inauguration, but he definitely knew him. Colonel also knew Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. President Clinton's mother was our good friend and came to our house to visit. The photo of Colonel and me, where I am holding a coffee cup, was taken at Virginia's 70th birthday party here in Las Vegas.

Please don't let people like this person upset you.......just remember, "you can't argue with dumb".

It is always good to hear from you.

Loanne

[Unchained Melody]

Wow thanks for that Joe very interesting...(y)

[ELVIS2001NET]

Wow thanks for that Joe very interesting...(y)

She is a corker!
lol
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net

[Unchained Melody]

She is a corker!
lol
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net (http://www.elvis2001.net)

So I take it you don't believe what she has said about Parker knowing those USA Presidents?? :hmm:

I'm pretty sure 'ol Willy Mr Bill Clinton was an Elvis fan or still is I should say....so maybe he did know Parker...:hmm:

[Brian]

And why would you believe something that someone has to say who was with Elvis for years upon years.

Anyhow, I don' think it would have been that easy for Parker to get a passport by just asking for it....:hmm:

Col. Jon Burrows

Hi are you doing today?

It would have been that easy for Colonel Parker to get a passport

remember the Colonel was good friends with LBJ and he was also a famous person you may remember Elvis went to the White house to see president Nixon despite never having met him before he got into to see the president within 45 minutes and asked the president for what he wanted (The badge)
and got it.

I don't expect everyone to go along with what I say but I believe I can convince most people.
The problem is you and others have heard that Colonel Parker was an illegal alien and he Couldn't travel overseas and that's the reason Elvis never went on a world tour for so long you believe it. Like I have said Colonel parker was a famous man the United states would have had no problems at all with letting him leave the country and get back in. They did not deport him when they found out he was here illegally in 1981. He had been here since 1929 and paid a lot of taxes. Sonny West has gotten a bad rap over the years by fans because of the Elvis what Happened book but if you read the book the don't really say bad things about Elvis. a lot of what they wrote has been written in other books since. I think the problem with that book was that the writer Steve Dunleavy was a trashy tabloid writer and was not an Elvis fan so he wrote the book to make it seem more negative than what it was meant to be by Red, Sonny and Dave. Sonny has said everything in the book is true but it was written in a way by Steve Dunleavy to make Elvis look bad.
When they signed the deal to write the book they were assigned a writer, they didnt get to pick one themselves.

It has been very nice talking with you sir
I hope I can convince you of this
I hope I will talk with you again my friend

[Unchained Melody]

Hey Brian I'm doing alright this morning thank you sir ! (y)

I really don't understand then why Colonel wouldn't try and get a passport then so a world tour would be possible, maybe it was because he didn't want Elvis to realize how big he really was and thought Elvis would dump him soon as they came back from the first one...not sure on that..you know Colonel had to be aware of the HUGE amount of money they could've made on such an adventure....

As for the EWH book and Sonny, like I've said before, them guys were trying to do the right thing just went about doing it in the wrong way. I honestly believe they were trying to give Elvis a challenge to prove them wrong and show them he wasn't washed up or overweight etc, and it worked up until December 31st 1976....

[Brian]

Hey Brian I'm doing alright this morning thank you sir ! (y)

I really don't understand then why Colonel wouldn't try and get a passport then so a world tour would be possible, maybe it was because he didn't want Elvis to realize how big he really was and thought Elvis would dump him soon as they came back from the first one...not sure on that..you know Colonel had to be aware of the HUGE amount of money they could've made on such an adventure....

As for the EWH book and Sonny, like I've said before, them guys were trying to do the right thing just went about doing it in the wrong way. I honestly believe they were trying to give Elvis a challenge to prove them wrong and show them he wasn't washed up or overweight etc, and it worked up until December 31st 1976....

Hi Mr. Burrows it is good to talk with you

The Colonel was aware of the amount of money they could make
In the interview I posted with Sonny he says specifically that there were 3 reason for Elvis never touring the world. The pills, multiple guns that Elvis would have carried himself and the fact that Colonel didn't have any contacts abroad to get Elvis passed customs.
Sonny states in the audio interview that the Colonel could have got it taken care of any time he wanted.
I believe he just put off getting the passport thing taken care of I have and I am sure you have put things off until the last minute instead of taking care of it first thing.

It has been a pleasure talking with you again sir

Will talk with you later bye my friend

[Unchained Melody]

Hi Mr. Burrows it is good to talk with you

The Colonel was aware of the amount of money they could make
In the interview I posted with Sonny he says specifically that there were 3 reason for Elvis never touring the world. The pills, multiple guns that Elvis would have carried himself and the fact that Colonel didn't have any contacts abroad to get Elvis passed customs.
Sonny states in the audio interview that the Colonel could have got it taken care of any time he wanted.
I believe he just put off getting the passport thing taken care of I have and I am sure you have put things off until the last minute instead of taking care of it first thing.

It has been a pleasure talking with you again sir

Will talk with you later bye my friend

Interesting to say the least but Like Sonny West I believe had he wanted to (the Colonel That is) to have taken care of things and got a world tour ready he could've. And The drugs, that couldn't have been a problem Elvis had a Doctor traveling with him most of the time and I'm sure he would have taken Doctor Nick with him had he done a world tour and all his medicine was prescribed, and even if it wasn't I'm sure Elvis would've gotten off the non prescribed stuff long enough to do a world tour because i'm sure if he really wanted to do a world tour he would've ..

[ELVIS2001NET]

So I take it you don't believe what she has said about Parker knowing those USA Presidents?? :hmm:

I'm pretty sure 'ol Willy Mr Bill Clinton was an Elvis fan or still is I should say....so maybe he did know Parker...:hmm:

i am glad to see i changed your mind at least on that.
joe k
www.elvis2001.net

[Miss Clawdy]

Well Brian as I said Brian we will respectfully have to disagree on this. ;)
Sonnys comments on something which did not happen-to me are speculation.
The Col. never attempted to get citizenship-through normal avenues, or through Johnson etc....... So IMO since it never happened Sonny is guessing as to what Johnson would have done -if Col. Parker had asked him for help.-(which I stress he never did at least as far as has been reported that I can find) Parker and Elvis sent gifts to people all the time on a regular basis-so I would not find it strange that Parker sent gifts to LBJ because he sent them to many people of varying degrees of familiarity.
As I pointed out Bob Hope knew a lot of Presidents, attended state dinners with them, stayed over in the White House several times, entertained for them -but he only considered a couple as more than acquintances.
You are correct on Hawaii not being a state in 1957-but it was a US Territory so no passports were needed.
The comment on Eddy Arnold in Europe is a new one to me-I did a pretty good internet search a while back on Arnold and Snow to see if they had ever played outside the US when Parker managed each and could come up with nothing-but if you have info he did-one thing I'm sure Parker did not go with him for the tour.
So you see we disagree, you feel the illegal status is over stated and I feel if it was that simple for him to get legal status (as Sonny says) then what stopped him. I mean if for nothing else but doing the right thing and piece of mind.
You say they would not have exported Elvis Presleys manager and I agree-so why did he not just straighten it out ? In 1958 he could have straightened it out so he could visit Elvis in Germany- he did not. He was offered big money several times in the 60s for Elvis to perform, but never attempted to set it right in case an offer came that was just too much to pass on. The problem for me is why did he never do it?
See to me its common sense-when something does not make common sense to me I have to ask what was the hangup.
IMO for some reason he did not want to address this problem-the truth is he kept this part of his life pretty close to his vest for most of his life. His own family in the Netherlands thought he was dead for years and years?
Sorry my friend I just have to disagree, but you make some good points.

I have to agree with you on your opinion about Parker. The USA may not
have deported him but maybe he was more afraid of what might have
happen to him once he set foot on European territory. Afterall there are
rumours that he was involved in murdering a woman in the Netherlands.
The other declarations (drugs etc.) don't ring very true to me.
I am also wondering would his passport be made out in his own or in his false name?

[Brian]

I have to agree with you on your opinion about Parker. The USA may not
have deported him but maybe he was more afraid of what might have
happen to him once he set foot on European territory. Afterall there are
rumours that he was involved in murdering a woman in the Netherlands.
The other declarations (drugs etc.) don't ring very true to me.
I am also wondering would his passport be made out in his own or in his false name?

it would have been made out to the name of Tom Parker

The allegations made that he murdered a woman were just speculation on Alanna Nash part she says she found no evidence that it was just a theory of hers. That is a big allegation to make about someone and she didn't have any proof if I were her I would have left her speculating out of it as her book is interesting enough without it.
Remember Johnny Cash was busted for carrying prescribed drugs as well and just because they are legal in the U.S. doesn't mean it is legal to carry them into other countries. Frank Sinatra was also stopped going through customs
carrying pill bottles while trying to get into Austrailia. The same could have happened to Elvis very easily.

I hope I can persuade you of this Miss Clawdy
I look forward to taking with you real soon

[Unchained Melody]

Remember Johnny Cash was busted for carrying prescribed drugs as well and just because they are legal in the U.S. doesn't mean it is legal to carry them into other countries. Frank Sinatra was also stopped going through customs
carrying pill bottles while trying to get into Austrailia. The same could have happened to Elvis very easily.


Ok thats true but I'm sure Elvis the Colonel and Dr Nick or whoever would have sat down before the World Tour had happened and discussed all of this and I'm sure Elvis would have you know, stopped with the drugs atleast for the time being...i don't buy that the tour didn't happen because of issues with carrying drugs..thats bs imo..it comes down to Parker and his issues with being an illegal alien, and not wanting to loose that control over elvis he had simple as that.

[presley31]

Ok thats true but I'm sure Elvis the Colonel and Dr Nick or whoever would have sat down before the World Tour had happened and discussed all of this and I'm sure Elvis would have you know, stopped with the drugs atleast for the time being...i don't buy that the tour didn't happen because of issues with carrying drugs..thats bs imo..it comes down to Parker and his issues with being an illegal alien, and not wanting to loose that control over elvis he had simple as that.

agree there(y)(y)

[Unchained Melody]

i am glad to see i changed your mind at least on that.
joe k
www.elvis2001.net (http://www.elvis2001.net)


Sure thing my friend...i am a very open minded person when it comes to this..you have to be I think if ever want to know the whole story...

[KPM]

In respect to the Nixon/Elvis meeting - Col. Parker had absolutly nothing to do with Elvis getting into see Nixon.
Vernon, Priscilla, and the Col. were totally unaware as to where he went until later.
Elvis getting in to see Nixon more than likely was luck-Nixon thought by seeing Elvis it may help his problem with young people who disliked Nixon. Nixons Chief of Staff Bob Halderman who told the President of the last minuter request was against the meeting-saw little sense in it.
Nixon is the one who gave the go ahead to Halderman-overriding Halderman. If Nixon had gotten the US out of Vietnam quicker his problems with the young protestors would have vanished-he would have most likely also been against a hastily arranged meeting with Elvis-there would have been nothing in it for Nixon (in Nixons mind anyway) Nixon was a scheduled man-old school everything done in order-so without Nixons problems in 1970 (huge problems) Elvis would have never got in IMO.
So from what I have read and heard in interviews it was Nixons problems with Vietnam-not the fame of Elvis or strings pulled- which gained Elvis his entrance.
I got my draft card in 1972 and I can tell you Nixon was not popular.
If you recall Elvis called President Carter to ask for intercession I believe for Geroge Klein in some matter. President Carter did not do so.
Presidents rarely get involved in any matters which spike of "cronyism" it almost always leads to investigations in Congress. It would be illegal for any sitting President to interfere in any legal matter-due to the separation of powers of state into 3 branches Executive, Judicial and Legislative. So by a President in the Executive Branch putting pressure on the Judicial Branch to sway the outcome of a legal matter-it would be breaking the law. It is a very risky situation with a lot to lose.

[Unchained Melody]

In respect to the Nixon/Elvis meeting - Col. Parker had absolutly nothing to do with Elvis getting into see Nixon.
Vernon, Priscilla, and the Col. were totally unaware as to where he went until later.

Exactly. This was the first time Elvis had ever done something like this by himself...guess he was in a mood to rebel and I don't blame him...must have been nice for me..

[Brian]

In respect to the Nixon/Elvis meeting - Col. Parker had absolutly nothing to do with Elvis getting into see Nixon.
Vernon, Priscilla, and the Col. were totally unaware as to where he went until later.
Elvis getting in to see Nixon more than likely was luck-Nixon thought by seeing Elvis it may help his problem with young people who disliked Nixon. Nixons Chief of Staff Bob Halderman who told the President of the last minuter request was against the meeting-saw little sense in it.
Nixon is the one who gave the go ahead to Halderman-overriding Halderman. If Nixon had gotten the US out of Vietnam quicker his problems with the young protestors would have vanished-he would have most likely also been against a hastily arranged meeting with Elvis-there would have been nothing in it for Nixon (in Nixons mind anyway) Nixon was a scheduled man-old school everything done in order-so without Nixons problems in 1970 (huge problems) Elvis would have never got in IMO.
So from what I have read and heard in interviews it was Nixons problems with Vietnam-not the fame of Elvis or strings pulled- which gained Elvis his entrance.
I got my draft card in 1972 and I can tell you Nixon was not popular.
If you recall Elvis called President Carter to ask for intercession I believe for Geroge Klein in some matter. President Carter did not do so.
Presidents rarely get involved in any matters which spike of "cronyism" it almost always leads to investigations in Congress. It would be illegal for any sitting President to interfere in any legal matter-due to the separation of powers of state into 3 branches Executive, Judicial and Legislative. So by a President in the Executive Branch putting pressure on the Judicial Branch to sway the outcome of a legal matter-it would be breaking the law. It is a very risky situation with a lot to lose.

I disagree with you on this I don't think it would be a problem

Colonel Parker was a personal friend to several presidents
I believe Sonny When he says the Colonel would have asked LBJ to fix things up for him. Sonny knew the Colonel and Elvis real well I believe him.
LBJ would have helped him.

President Carter told Elvis that he couldn't pardon Mr. Klein until he was actually charged Elvis died before George klein was.

[Unchained Melody]

I disagree with you on this I don't think it would be a problem

Colonel Parker was a personal friend to several presidents
I believe Sonny When he says the Colonel would have asked LBJ to fix things up for him. Sonny knew the Colonel and Elvis real well I believe him.
LBJ would have helped him.

If so, then why didn't Colonel do that ?:hmm:

[Brian]

Ok thats true but I'm sure Elvis the Colonel and Dr Nick or whoever would have sat down before the World Tour had happened and discussed all of this and I'm sure Elvis would have you know, stopped with the drugs atleast for the time being...i don't buy that the tour didn't happen because of issues with carrying drugs..thats bs imo..it comes down to Parker and his issues with being an illegal alien, and not wanting to loose that control over elvis he had simple as that.

Hi Mr. Burrows How ya doing

good to talk with you

Elvis was a drug addict you can't just turn that off and on. Elvis would have had to get clean first Sonny was saying Elvis would have been unwilling to go without all his drugs and guns

Colonel parkers illegal alien status would not be a big deal.
He would have turned to his friend LBJ for help and got it taken care of and that would have been that. regardless of all of the colonels connections it still would not have been a big deal because he was a famous man.

As far as losing his control over Elvis I don't think that would have happened over the world tour remember there were several times Elvis went against the Colonel and got what he wanted. He was a intellegent grown man who could make decisions for himself I don't believe he pushed hard enough for a world tour or did what was necessary to prepare for and undertake one.

this is turning into an interesting discussion Mr. Burrows
I am still confident I can convince you of all this
Just think we could become allies and go to Elvis message boards and spread the world about the real reason for no world tour.
LBJ All the Way bye for now my friend I will talk with you again.

[Brian]

If so, then why didn't Colonel do that ?:hmm:

Hi Mr Burrows

I did not say he did get it taken care just that he would have if Elvis was able to go on a world tour it's all about Elvis not the colonel.

people make too big a deal out of Colonel parker being an illegal alien

[KPM]

I disagree with you on this I don't think it would be a problem

Colonel Parker was a personal friend to several presidents
I believe Sonny When he says the Colonel would have asked LBJ to fix things up for him. Sonny knew the Colonel and Elvis real well I believe him.
LBJ would have helped him.

President Carter told Elvis that he couldn't pardon Mr. Klein until he was actually charged Elvis died before George klein was.
President Ford pardoned President Nixon and he had not been charged with a crime. The threat of Impeachment was over his head but it had not been done. So it was possible. President Carter has said he had no intention either way in getting involved.
Sonny knew the Col. but he is only guessing as to what the Col. could have done. He has no way of knowing if Col. had asked LBJ for help what the outcome would have been. It is his best guess as he sees it. I am not saying Sonny is lying-I am saying it is still speculation because it never happened- so their is no definitive answer to what would or could have been done.
The only way it could be definitive is if-some secret document hitherto unknown in which LBJ told Parker,
"No problem I can take care of this citizenship situation for you" would surface. That would answer the question once and for all. But in order to have such a document-Parker would have had to come clean to LBJ on his status-and he didn't.
My friend there is no definitive answer on this question. Either way it can not be 100% proven.

[cameron]

President Ford pardoned President Nixon and he had not been charged with a crime. The threat of Impeachment was over his head but it had not been done. So it was possible. President Carter has said he had no intention either way in getting involved.
Sonny knew the Col. but he is only guessing as to what the Col. could have done. He has no way of knowing if Col. had asked LBJ for help what the outcome would have been. It is his best guess as he sees it. I am not saying Sonny is lying-I am saying it is still speculation because it never happened- so their is no definitive answer to what would or could have been done.The only way it could be definitive is if-some secret document hitherto unknown in which LBJ told Parker,
"No problem I can take care of this citizenship situation for you" would surface. That would answer the question once and for all. But in order to have such a document-Parker would have had to come clean to LBJ on his status-and he didn't.
My friend there is no definitive answer on this question. Either way it can not be 100% proven.

I agree with you here. How in the world could anyone say it could be taken care when the MM didn't even know Parker wasn't a citizen? :blink:

[Merry]

Dear Brian,

I look forward to more discussions.

Thank you, Brian, I've found your friendly manner, and outlook on life, as well as respect for others, refreshing, and speaking for myself, very welcome here, on TCB.

Ken, as always, I've enjoyed your replies. I always make a point of reading what you have to say.

I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Kind wishes,
Kim

[Brian]

President Ford pardoned President Nixon and he had not been charged with a crime. The threat of Impeachment was over his head but it had not been done. So it was possible. President Carter has said he had no intention either way in getting involved.
Sonny knew the Col. but he is only guessing as to what the Col. could have done. He has no way of knowing if Col. had asked LBJ for help what the outcome would have been. It is his best guess as he sees it. I am not saying Sonny is lying-I am saying it is still speculation because it never happened- so their is no definitive answer to what would or could have been done.
The only way it could be definitive is if-some secret document hitherto unknown in which LBJ told Parker,
"No problem I can take care of this citizenship situation for you" would surface. That would answer the question once and for all. But in order to have such a document-Parker would have had to come clean to LBJ on his status-and he didn't.
My friend there is no definitive answer on this question. Either way it can not be 100% proven.

Sonny not guessing Colonel told him what he would have done

[Brian]

I agree with you here. How in the world could anyone say it could be taken care when the MM didn't even know Parker wasn't a citizen? :blink:

He would have went to LBJ in private and had it taken care of

Some of the Memphis mafia didn't like the Colonel at all

But LBJ sure did

The Memphis mafia guys that didn't care for the colonel would have been none the wiser.

[presley31]

Something l came accoss.

"You know I knew five presidents," he announced out of blue. "Franklin Roosevelt was the easiest to know. I knew him from Warm Springs, Ga., because we played there," an allusion to the small carnivals Parker worked, selling candy apples and tending elephants in the ‘30s. "Of course, I knew [Lyndon] Johnson real good, too. He used to send me Christmas gifts."

source:http://www.colonelparker.com/lunch_with_andre.htm

[Brian]

Something l came accoss.

"You know I knew five presidents," he announced out of blue. "Franklin Roosevelt was the easiest to know. I knew him from Warm Springs, Ga., because we played there," an allusion to the small carnivals Parker worked, selling candy apples and tending elephants in the ‘30s. "Of course, I knew [Lyndon] Johnson real good, too. He used to send me Christmas gifts."

source:http://www.colonelparker.com/lunch_with_andre.htm

Hello Presley31

yes I found that article a few weeks ago thank you for posting it

I appreciate so much thank you

[cameron]

The big thing I see is: No one gives a hoot if Parker knew any president.
IF Parker wanted to help Elvis he should have gotten his passport IF he needed it and went abroad with him. Meds or no meds. They were ALL prescription drugs ; he always took his doctor with hin. Elvis could have went with no problem, so IMO, it was Parker ,period !!

[ELVIS2001NET]

Charles STONE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT . THIS IS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE BEATLES TELEGRAM . HE SAID THE COLONEL HAD IT FRAMED AND IT WAS HUNG IN HIS OFFICE. YES OVER TIME , ELVIS DID SEE IT. BUT CHARLES DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HIS REMARKS ON IT WAS. I ASKED HIM WHERE IT WAS NOW. HE SAID HE WAS TOLD IT WENT WITH THE THINGS GRACELAND PURCHASED. HE WAS ALSO TOLD THAT GRACELAND HAD A FLOOD OR SOME KIND OF WATER PROBLEM SO IT MAY NOT BE THERE AT ALL THINGS WERE DAMAGED THAT WAS APART OF THE COLONELS COLLECTION. . HE ASKED WHEN HE WAS GRACELANDS GUEST LAST YEAR.
I ALSO TALKED HIM INTO AN AUDIO INTERVIEW . IT WILL BE UP ON ELVIS2001 SOON .
JOE K
WWW.ELVIS2001.NET

[Brian]

The big thing I see is: No one gives a hoot if Parker knew any president.
IF Parker wanted to help Elvis he should have gotten his passport IF he needed it and went abroad with him. Meds or no meds. They were ALL prescription drugs ; he always took his doctor with hin. Elvis could have went with no problem, so IMO, it was Parker ,period !!

Hi Cameron hows my new friend doing today?

No there were performers that got caught caught carrying prescription drugs as well as I have said.

Just because something is legally prescribed in the U.S. doesn't mean it is legal to carry them into other countries.

the United States is a great country but sometimes the prescription drugs get very expensive for the average person especially when that person doesn't have insurance. Sometimes in order to get cheaper prescription drugs
people will drive to Canada or to Mexico and buy the prescribed medicine and then drive back to Where they live in the U.S. but if they get caught with it while trying to cross the border back in to the U.S. they will be thrown in jail.

[cameron]

Hi Cameron hows my new friend doing today?

No there were performers that got caught caught carrying prescription drugs as well as I have said.

Just because something is legally prescribed in the U.S. doesn't mean it is legal to carry them into other countries.

the United States is a great country but sometimes the prescription drugs get very expensive for the average person especially when that person doesn't have insurance. Sometimes in order to get cheaper prescription drugs
people will drive to Canada or to Mexico and buy the prescribed medicine and then drive back to Where they live in the U.S. but if they get caught with it while trying to cross the border back in to the U.S. they will be thrown in jail.
Sorry, but you'll never convince me it wasn't Parker.
You're allowed your opinion too though. ;)

As to DJC , no one likes him. He thinks he's cute, but others are fed up with him. I'd just ignore him.
Looked like Piers told him off pretty well :P

[Brian]

Sorry, but you'll never convince me it wasn't Parker.
You're allowed your opinion too though. ;)

As to DJC , no one likes him. He thinks he's cute, but others are fed up with him. I'd just ignore him.
Looked like Piers told him off pretty well :P

I respect your opinion Cameron

but I still think there are a lot of Elvis fans who make too big a deal out of the Colonel's illegal alien status

Will you please just think about all that I have said?

Your friend Brian

[KPM]

Charles STONE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT . THIS IS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE BEATLES TELEGRAM . HE SAID THE COLONEL HAD IT FRAMED AND IT WAS HUNG IN HIS OFFICE. YES OVER TIME , ELVIS DID SEE IT. BUT CHARLES DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HIS REMARKS ON IT WAS. I ASKED HIM WHERE IT WAS NOW. HE SAID HE WAS TOLD IT WENT WITH THE THINGS GRACELAND PURCHASED. HE WAS ALSO TOLD THAT GRACELAND HAD A FLOOD OR SOME KIND OF WATER PROBLEM SO IT MAY NOT BE THERE AT ALL THINGS WERE DAMAGED THAT WAS APART OF THE COLONELS COLLECTION. . HE ASKED WHEN HE WAS GRACELANDS GUEST LAST YEAR.
I ALSO TALKED HIM INTO AN AUDIO INTERVIEW . IT WILL BE UP ON ELVIS2001 SOON .
JOE K
WWW.ELVIS2001.NET
Just curious if there might be a picture of it since it was on Parkers wall?
Or perhaps Graceland archivists took a picture of it?
Usually when a museum gets something new-which will not be put on display quickly it is photographed, catalogued and indexed in some way in order to keep a record of it. Insurance policys on large collections also need some type of proof of what was in the collection so perhaps there is at least a picture.
(if the story is true that is)

[ELVIS2001NET]

Just curious if there might be a picture of it since it was on Parkers wall?
Or perhaps Graceland archivists took a picture of it?
Usually when a museum gets something new-which will not be put on display quickly it is photographed, catalogued and indexed in some way in order to keep a record of it. Insurance policys on large collections also need some type of proof of what was in the collection so perhaps there is at least a picture.
(if the story is true that is)


well lets hope so.
joe k
www.elvis2001.net