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Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:21 AM
Hey all you Elvis historians :D I need to aks a big favor :D I am doing some research for my 706 Union Avenue cover and I need some help on some information. The CD is based on the Sun Sessions (I know these things have been re-released to death) and I have been doing some research on all the songs, etc that Elvis did while at Sun ('53 - '55) I have found some very useful information on the Master & Session webite as well as the Elvis in Norway website, but I would like to be able to get everything correct before I start putting it in the booklet for the CD. I am going to post what information I have in the next few posts. Any additional information or places where I can get any additional information would be greatly appreciated :D
Thanks...
J.C.

Here is the first part of what I have

Sun Sessions 1953-1955

July 18, 1953 - Demo Session
1. My Happiness - Peterson-Bergantine - 2:33 - M - WPA5 2531 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Great Perf
2. That's When Your Heartaches Begin - Raskin-Brown-Fisher - 2:48 - M - WPA5 2532 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1

January 4, 1954 - Demo Session
1. It Wouldn't Be The Same Without You - Wakely-Rose - 2:01 - M - CPA5 5102 (0812-B) - Sunrise (Acetate)
2. I'll Never Stand In Your Way - Heath-Rose - 2:03 - M - CPA5 5101 (0812-A) - Sunrise / Platinum (Acetate)

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:25 AM
I have some conflicting information about takes, times, dates, songs, that I hope someone can clear up, as well as any songs or performances that I may have missed..most likely a live performance :lol:

July 5-6, 1954 - Studio Session
1. Harbor Lights - Kennedy-Williams - 2:36 - Take #2 - M - EPA3 2742 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Leg. Perf Vol 2 LP
1. Harbor Lights - Kennedy-Williams - 2:29 - Take #3 - Today, Tomorrow and Forever

2. I Love You Because - Payne - 0:20 - Take #1 (Guitar Intro) - Sunrise / The Complete Sun Sessions LP
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 3:40 - Take #2 - Leg. Perf Vol 1
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 3:31 - Take #2 - Sunrise / The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 3:33 - Take #3 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 0:32 - Take #4 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 3:27 - Take #5 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
2. I Love You Because - Payne - 2:42 - M - Spliced From Takes #3 and #5 - G2WB 1086 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1/ Elvis Presley

3. That's All Right - Crudup - 0:05 - Take #1 - OPA1 4849 - Sunrise / Platinum / Golden Cele 1
3. That's All Right - Crudup - 0:08 - Take #2 - OPA1 4849 - Sunrise / Platinum / Golden Cele 1
3. That's All Right - Crudup - 2:10 - Take #3 - Golden Cele
3. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:53 - Take #3 - OPA1 4849 - Sunrise / Platinum / Golden Cele 1
3. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:57 - Take #4? - M - OPA1 4849 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Single A

4. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Slow Version) - Monroe - 1:03 - Take #1 - A Golden Celebration
4. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Slow Version) - Monroe - 2:02 - Take #1
4. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Slow Version) - Monroe - 2:02 - Take #2
4. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Slow Version) - Monroe - 1:07 - Take #3 - OPA1 4194 - Sunrise / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 101, dry) / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 100, echo)
4. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Slow Version) - Monroe - 2:03 - N/A - M - F2WB 8041 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Great Country Songs / Single B

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:26 AM
August 19, 1954 - Studio Session
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 2:57 - Take #1 - 50's Box 5
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 3:14 - Take #2 - Platinum
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 0:15 - Take #3 - Sunrise
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 0:23 - Take #4 - Sunrise
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 3:04 - Take #5 - Sunrise
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 2:26 - Take #5 - Sunrise
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 2:31 - Take #6 - Elvis Presley
1. Blue Moon - Hart-Rodgers - 2:41 - Take #6 - M - F2WB 8117 - Sunrise / 50's Box 1

2. Tomorrow Night - Coslow-Grosz - 3:00 - Take #7 - M - F2WB 8115 - (Original w/ guitar solo) - Sunrise / 50's Box 1
2. Tomorrow Night - Coslow-Grosz - 2:53 - Take #7 - (Original w/o guitar solo) - The Complete Sun Sessions
2. Tomorrow Night - Coslow-Grosz - 2:38 - Take #7 - (Overdubbed and slowed down 03-18-1965) - Elvis For Everyone

3. I'll Never Let You Go (Little Darlin') - J. Wakely - 1:07 - N/A - Sunrise / A Golden Celebraton / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 101) / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 100) (Note: The echo suggests recorded the same date as "Blue Moon")
3. I'll Never Let You Go (Little Darlin') - J. Wakely - 2:26 - Take #10? - M - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Elvis Presley (Note: The echo suggests recorded the same date as "Blue Moon")

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:27 AM
September 10-11, 1954 - Studio Session
1. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 0:43 - Take #1 - OPA1 4195 - Sunrise / A Golden Celebration / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 101) / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 100) [ Non - RCA Tape ]
1. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 0:32 - Take #2 - OPA1 4195 - Sunrise / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 101) / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 100)
1. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 2:32 - Take #3 - M - F2WB 8042 (U-130) - Sunrise / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 101) / Good Rockin Tonight LP (Bobcat 100)
1. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 3:37 - Take #3 - A Golden Celebration
1. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 2:27 - Take #3? - Single B

2. Just Because - Shelton-Shelton-Robin - 2:34 - Take 17? - M - F2WB 8118 - 50's Box 1 / Elvis Presley

3. Good Rockin' Tonight - Brown - 2:13 - Take #2? - M - Sunrise/ 50's Box 1 / Platinum / Single A

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:28 AM
October 16, 1954? - Demo Session
1. Blue Moon Of Kentucky - Monroe - 2:07 - Live - Shreveport, La - The Hillbilly Cat
2. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:47 - Live - Shreveport, La - The Hillbilly Cat

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:28 AM
November 15, 1954 - Studio Session
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 2:59 - Take #1 - Sunrise / The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 2:53 - Take #2 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 2:44 - Take #3 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 0:19 - Take #4 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone - Kesler-Taylor - 2:42 - Take #5 - M - Sunrise / The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD / A Golden Celebration 1 (Acetate) / Released as Take #11 on The Complete 50's Masters
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 2:38 - Take #6 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP / Sun Sessions '87 CD
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version) - Kesler-Taylor - 1:34 - Take #7 - The Complete Sun Sessions LP

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:29 AM
December 12-20, 1954 - Studio Session
1. Milkcow Blues Boogie - Arnold - 2:39 - N/A - M - F2WB 8044 (U-140) - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Single A

2. You're A Heartbreaker - Sallee - 2:12 - N/A - M - F2WB 8045 (U-141) - Sunrise / 50's Box 1 / Sun Singles 1 (BF Box) / Single B

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:30 AM
January 6, 1955 - Demo Session (Recording Date May Have Been February 13, 1955)
1. Fool, Fool, Fool - Nugetre - 1:53 - N/A - WPA5 2533 - Cotton Club, Lubbock, Tx - 50's Box 5

2. Shake, Rattle And Roll - Calhoun - 2:18 - N/A - WPA5 2534 - Cotton Club, Lubbock, Tx - 50's Box 5

January 15, 1955 - Demo Session
1. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:35 - Live - Shreveport, La - Sunrise
2. Hearts Of Stone - Jackson-Ray - 1:57 - Live - Shreveport, La - Sunrise

January 22, 1955 - Demo Session
1. Blue Moon Of Kentucky - Monroe - 1:56 - Live - Shreveport, La - Rocking Tonight (MME - 76627-2, Semi-Official U.K. )
2. I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - M. David - 2:24 - Live - Shreveport, La - Sunrise
3. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:42 - Live - Shreveport, La - Rocking Tonight (MME - 76627-2, Semi-Official U.K. )
4. Money Honey - Stone - 2:31 - Live - Shreveport, La - Sunrise
5. Tweedle Dee - Scott - 2:09 - Live - Shreveport, La - Sunrise
6. Tweedle Dee - Scott - 2:07 - Live - Gladwater, Tx - The First Live Recordings

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:31 AM
February 1, 1955 - Studio Session
1. Baby, Let's Play House - A. Gunter - 2:16 - Take #2 - M - F2WB 8046 (U-143) - 50's Box 1 / Single A

March 5, 1955 - Studio Session
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone - Kesler-Taylor - 2:38 - Take #6 - M - F2WB 8047 (U-142) - 50's Box 1 / Single B
1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone? - Kesler-Taylor - 0:10 - Tryout - When All Was Kool

2. How Do You Think I Feel - ?? - 2:46 - Tryout - When All Was Kool
2. How Do You Think I Feel - ?? - 1:17 - Tryout - When All Was Kool

March 19, 1955 - Demo Session
1. Good Rockin' Tonight - Brown - 1:52 - Live - Houston, Tx - The First Year
2. Baby, Let's Play House - Gunter - 2:14 - Live - Houston, Tx - The First Year
3. I Got A Woman - Charles - 2:22 - Live - Houston, Tx - The First Year
4. That's All Right - Crudup - 1:31 - Live - Houston, Tx - The First Year
5. Blue Moon Of Kentucky - Monroe - 1:29 - Live - Houston, Tx - The First Year

Elvis42
09-27-2004, 12:32 AM
July 11, 1955 - Studio Session
1. I Forgot To Remember To Forget - Kesler-Feathers - 2:31 - N/A - M - F2WB 8000 (U-157) - 50's Box 1 / Single B

2. Mystery Train - Parker-Phillips - 2:26 - N/A - M - F2WB 8001 (U-156) - 50's Box 1 / Single A (Note: A longer running version of "Mystery Train" was released on a European budget CD in 1987 called "Elvis Presley - The Legendary" (JOKER Tonverlag AG/CD 0254). This version runs longer than any known Sun or RCA release (BMG edited the end even more). It even seems to include the very last note played before the fade-out is over.)

3. Trying To Get To You - Singleton-McCoy - 2:33 - N/A - M - F2WB 8039 - 50's Box 1 / Elvis Presley

August 20, 1955 - Demo Session
1. That's All Right - Crudup - 2:15 - Live - Shreveport, La - The First Live Recordings
2. Baby, Let's Play House - Gunter - 2:10 - Live - Shreveport, La - The First Live Recordings
3. Maybellene - Berry - 1:58 - Live - Shreveport, La - The First Live Recordings

November 1955 - Studio Session
1. When It Rains, It Really Pours - Emerson - 0:57 - Take #7 - Sunrise / Legendary Performer Vol 4 / Golden Celebration
1. When It Rains, It Really Pours - Emerson - 1:03 - Take #9 - NPA5 5826 - Sunrise / Legendary Performer Vol 4 / Golden Celebration
1. When It Rains, It Really Pours - Emerson - 2:04 - Take #11 - M - Sunrise / Legendary Performer Vol 4 / 50's Box 1 / Golden Celebration

buttonhead
10-02-2004, 08:07 PM
wow what a list EL42. i am amaze with your knowledge of EP 50s songs , with outtakes, where it was recorded etc. i am least interested with EP 50s songs, maybe one or two are great to listen , EP voice back then was like something bang the bucket lid ... :P :lol: sorry with my bad english,.. keep your good job though (y)

Keith F
10-03-2004, 05:06 AM
This may help you with the live material from the 50's

Live 1954 - 61 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/keith.flynn1/www.keithflynn.com/Live%201954%20-%201961.htm)

While doing research for "Elvis At Sun", Ernst has made some new discoveries placing both versions of "I'm Left You're Right She's Gone" and "My Baby's Gone" as being recorded together, either in November or December 1954, and not, as originally thought, on two separate occasions.

Keith

Elvis42
10-04-2004, 05:03 PM
This may help you with the live material from the 50's

Live 1954 - 61 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/keith.flynn1/www.keithflynn.com/Live%201954%20-%201961.htm)

While doing research for "Elvis At Sun", Ernst has made some new discoveries placing both versions of "I'm Left You're Right She's Gone" and "My Baby's Gone" as being recorded together, either in November or December 1954, and not, as originally thought, on two separate occasions.

Keith

Keith,
Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond sooner...Thank you for the link and the information, every little bit helps :D
J.C.