why mexicans didn't like elvis

[presley31]

WHY MEXICANS HATED ELVIS!

May 1959: While Elvis Presley's popularity in the U.S. was arguably at its all-time peak, Mexico was in the midst of a huge anti-Elvis backlash.

Tijuana tabloids called him a racist and homosexual, after the singer reportedly told gossip columnist Federico de León "I'd rather kiss three black girls than a Mexican." A Mexican woman in the same column was quoted saying "I'd rather kiss three dogs than one Elvis Presley."

Mexican Radio Exitos read de León's column over the air and spearheaded a boycott of the "insolent artist," while the powerful student group Federación Estudiantil Universitaria (FEU) held public record burnings.

When Elvis' movie King Creole screened in May 1959 at the Américas Cinema in Mexico City, newspapers who'd advertised the film under the title Melodía Siniestra (Sinister Melody) reported a "riot" occurring.

Mexican counterculture novelist Parménides García Saldaña wrote a short story, "El rey criollo," about the screening where several hundred gatecrashers reportedly shredded the seats and threw lit papers onto patrons from the balcony.

"Before the film began," wrote Saldaña, "it was pure chaos, a f-ing riot as they say more vulgarly. The different gangs shouted ‘Here the Guerrero [neighborhood],' ‘Here the Roma' ...And then some chicks come in with leather jackets with swastikas painted on them, pony tails and bobby socks, real rock and roller like...a group of guys gang up around them [and shout] "‘Dance!'"

Mexican reporters suggested Elvis' hip-wiggling and mannerisms proved he was either maricón (homosexual) or actually a woman in reverse-drag.



The movie Los chiflados del rock'n roll, a musical spoof, was promoted with posters showing Elvis in drag, being shot by rifle-toting men in sombreros, under a banner reading "Die Elvis Presley!"

The book "Refried Elvis: The Rise of the Mexican Counterculture" (Berkeley: University of California Press, c1999) claims the original Elvis quote was fabricated. According to author Eric Zolov, "Herbe Pompeyo of Polygram Records in Mexico City claims that a high-up Mexican political figure wanted to contract Presley for a private party, for which he sent the performer a blank check to fill in as he wished. Presley, according to the story, returned the blank check, so the politico, extremely offended, invented the storyline about Elvis not liking Mexican women."



Who could have imagined that, four decades later, Mexico would be producing more Elvis velvet paintings than any other region in the world...

...not to mention giving us "El Vez, the Mexican Elvis...."

http://www.elvisunlimited.com/news.asp?page_id=79&news_id=218

[Donut]

Tijuana tabloids called him a racist and homosexual, after the singer reportedly told gossip columnist Federico de León "I'd rather kiss three black girls than a Mexican." A Mexican woman in the same column was quoted saying "I'd rather kiss three dogs than one Elvis Presley."



I don´t believe for one second Elvis said that, or at least to that gossip columnist.

[TotallyInsane]

Don't believe it either. Not sure why this kind of stuff is still being circulated.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

A great read :lol:

[Diane]

No, I don't believe Elvis said anything like that to a columnist. He knew better than that.

Diane

[Donut]

I have seen him kiss on the lips some ones not very gifted from the beauty goddess too and I admire him for that :lol:
He didn´t seem prejudiced to me at all.

[cameron]

I believe Elvis made it clear what he thought of Gossip Mags.
Don't believe he said this either.

I have a mixed son-in-law and his grandfather brought him up on the gossip on Elvis and blacks. I had to educate him ! He now loves Elvis.. (y)

[italianfan]

I wonder what they thought of Elvis singing those few mexican songs he sang?

[ehollier]

I think its crazy for anyone to believe that Elvis would have EVER said this. It's unfortunate that he was out of the country when this was published and I am sure that if or when he got wind of this, he couldn't have been happy about this. He was already worried about his career and fans while he was in the army. Knowing this lie was circulating couldn't have made him happy.

[presley31]

There will always be things said about elvis that really make no sense at all. To bad people can find the true facts before they write a story, but than again gossip sells.

[Diane]

You're right on target there Jen.(y)

Diane

[cameron]

I've nothing against Mexicans either
.My son married a beautiful girl from there .
I've visited Mexico myself. Lots of poor people there, but very friendly.
We may all be just as poor soon.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

By todays standards Elvis would very probably look sexist and dare I say it a little bit racist. The 80s, 90s and 2000's have seen political correctness progressively overtake common sense :blink:

However I don't ever believe that Elvis was any more racist that your average Joe Public.

[Raised on Rock]

Well what it is known among Elvis fans here in Mexico these days is that that rumor was started not here but in the U.S. by one more gossip Mag that wanted to put down Elvis (whatever the reasons) by the late 50's, now Presley could have not said that, as it is known today that he didn´t even was at the town were he suposedly said that.

Now by the late 50's Elvis Presley was loved and hated in Mexico, same percentage as he was loved and hated in his native country or any other part of the world. Today, Presley is both worshiped and mocked here, and everything in between, as same as in the U.S. or any other country. It is retarded to believe that a whole country hates one singer by some fake rumor isn´t it?

Sure, back in the 50's Presley public records burnings happened here, elder people was shocked by his stage antics, and lots of religious right movements and people in the media wanted him banned in the country, he was conceived as a bad influence by many, but these was no diferent from any other part in the world, Memphis included. So of course when that nasty rumor started to circulate around here, it was pushed by the anti Elvis establishment and used as an another excuse to put him down, now I guess as ever some people swallow it, but the diehard fans, that huge mass of rock and rollers and teenage girls that were Elvis crazy, knew it was bullshit, and they still loved him, those are now the older fans of these days. It was well known among Elvis fans clubs that the rumor was a total fake since the 50's.

Now about that Herbe Pompeyo of Polygram Records in Mexico City, claiming that a high-up Mexican political figure wanted to contract Presley for a private party: total carp. That guy was a well know disc jockey here in Mexico City back in the 60's, 70's and 80's, not of my liking I might say, the guy is full of sh... one more of those rumor promoting guys just to boost their bad radio shows, the guys knows nothing, and altough he is an Elvis fan, he´s just one of those guys that even claim they meet Elvis once to promote themselves, a total looser.

At last, when King Creole was premiered here in Mexcio in '59 a huge riot happened, but that has nothing to do with the anti-Elvis people, that riot was nothing but a display of a the mass histeria that might be known as the ELVIS-MANIA, a big bunch of girls going crazy, that boosted up with some hooligan rock and rollers going wild, trashing out the cinema just for kicks while Presley did Trouble. Well I guess some elder people didn´t liked that much.

[cameron]

Well what it is known among Elvis fans here in Mexico these days is that that rumor was started not here but in the U.S. by one more gossip Mag that wanted to put down Elvis (whatever the reasons) by the late 50's, now Presley could have not said that, as it is known today that he didn´t even was at the town were he suposedly said that.

Now by the late 50's Elvis Presley was loved and hated in Mexico, same percentage as he was loved and hated in his native country or any other part of the world. Today, Presley is both worshiped and mocked here, and everything in between, as same as in the U.S. or any other country. It is retarded to believe that a whole country hates one singer by some fake rumor isn´t it?Sure, back in the 50's Presley public records burnings happened here, elder people was shocked by his stage antics, and lots of religious right movements and people in the media wanted him banned in the country, he was conceived as a bad influence by many, but these was no diferent from any other part in the world, Memphis included. So of course when that nasty rumor started to circulate around here, it was pushed by the anti Elvis establishment and used as an another excuse to put him down, now I guess as ever some people swallow it, but the diehard fans, that huge mass of rock and rollers and teenage girls that were Elvis crazy, knew it was bullshit, and they still loved him, those are now the older fans of these days. It was well known among Elvis fans clubs that the rumor was a total fake since the 50's.
Now about that Herbe Pompeyo of Polygram Records in Mexico City, claiming that a high-up Mexican political figure wanted to contract Presley for a private party: total carp. That guy was a well know disc jockey here in Mexico City back in the 60's, 70's and 80's, not of my liking I might say, the guy is full of sh... one more of those rumor promoting guys just to boost their bad radio shows, the guys knows nothing, and altough he is an Elvis fan, he´s just one of those guys that even claim they meet Elvis once to promote themselves, a total looser.
At last, when King Creole was premiered here in Mexcio in '59 a huge riot happened, but that has nothing to do with the anti-Elvis people, that riot was nothing but a display of a the mass histeria that might be known as the ELVIS-MANIA, a big bunch of girls going crazy, that boosted up with some hooligan rock and rollers going wild, trashing out the cinema just for kicks while Presley did Trouble. Well I guess some elder people didn´t liked that much.
I'm certainly glad to know you nor others believe that BS.
Elvis loved all people and had friends of every race, color and creed.
Never did I believe Elvis was racist. He grew up with too many different kinds of people.
Once in a while, I might have thought he was a tad sexist. ;)
But, my son is the same way and I told him to gow up or live alone ! :P

[Raised on Rock]

By todays standards Elvis would very probably look sexist and dare I say it a little bit racist. The 80s, 90s and 2000's have seen political correctness progressively overtake common sense :blink:

However I don't ever believe that Elvis was any more racist that your average Joe Public.

Well, it might be said the way of thinking by today standars, of most people around Elvis age back in the 50's 60's and even 70's may be a little on the sexist and racist side, but in fact, compared to most people of his generation, Presely seemed in fact quite an open minded guy. (Plus if he was still alive today, he might be one of many to overcome certain sexist points of view)

Although there is no evidence to call Elvis a macho sexist pig, if there is little to believe that he was on the sexist track of mind, well I guess you can´t overcome your culture and the way you was brought up in life that easy (I mean your talking about someone who grew up in the 40's), and yet many of his attitudes towards his wife and other women in his life were quite "before his times" for a man that was born in 1935. Going out of topic a little bit, many things have been said about how out of touch was Elvis with all the changes that took place during the 60's, some of it might be true, but in fact, and compared with other white southern rock and rollers like Jerry Lee Lewis or Carl Perkins, his life style was much more in tune in many aspects with the changing 60's and 70's than most people of his age and from the part of the U.S. where he came from.


About the racist stuff, well if you can say there is little that might lead us to believe he was sexist (I think he was not), but there is non, and I say, THERE IS NOTHING that might let anybody believe he was a racist. The old rumors of Elvis saying: "The only thing black people can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes" and the ""I'd rather kiss three black girls than a Mexican" are long time proved as total BS.

Good reading anyhow, thanks for posting Presley31.

[utmom2008]

I have seen him kiss on the lips some ones not very gifted from the beauty goddess too and I admire him for that :lol:
He didn´t seem prejudiced to me at all.
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

By todays standards Elvis would very probably look sexist and dare I say it a little bit racist. The 80s, 90s and 2000's have seen political correctness progressively overtake common sense :blink:

However I don't ever believe that Elvis was any more racist that your average Joe Public.

Agreed!(y) We have become so overboard with being "PC" that sometimes it's just plain silly. Two things come to mind that Elvis said that if said today he would be bar-b-que'd by the press. #1. Calling all the female reporters "honey" and #2 telling The Sweet Inspirations that he would replace them with The Supremes. Nowdays somebody would make something out of those statements.:blink::blink::wacko::wacko:

[Tony Trout]

I don´t believe for one second Elvis said that, or at least to that gossip columnist.


Don't believe it either. Not sure why this kind of stuff is still being circulated.


It's B.S. Elvis wouldn't have said anything like that....just like those 'supposed' diaries that are supposed to be his that have re-surfaced after nearly twenty years....:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:





A great read :lol:


And a great laugh.....:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[MojoElvis]

Elvis did say, "He loved the Spanish Flavored Music" in 1972 but he never said he liked Spanish Flavored women..lol

[Lisarose]

WHY MEXICANS HATED ELVIS!

May 1959: While Elvis Presley's popularity in the U.S. was arguably at its all-time peak, Mexico was in the midst of a huge anti-Elvis backlash.

Tijuana tabloids called him a racist and homosexual, after the singer reportedly told gossip columnist Federico de León "I'd rather kiss three black girls than a Mexican." A Mexican woman in the same column was quoted saying "I'd rather kiss three dogs than one Elvis Presley." . . .

The book "Refried Elvis: The Rise of the Mexican Counterculture" (Berkeley: University of California Press, c1999) claims the original Elvis quote was fabricated. According to author Eric Zolov, "Herbe Pompeyo of Polygram Records in Mexico City claims that a high-up Mexican political figure wanted to contract Presley for a private party, for which he sent the performer a blank check to fill in as he wished. Presley, according to the story, returned the blank check, so the politico, extremely offended, invented the storyline about Elvis not liking Mexican women."
http://www.elvisunlimited.com/news.asp?page_id=79&news_id=218

Sounds like a Mexican version of the Black rumor of Elvis allegedly stating that all a black person could do for him was shine his shoes! What a load of crappola! :angry: I suppose it does sell those rags.

[Unchained Melody]

Like you all, i find this to be nothing more than BS. People wanting attention.

[Donut]

Agreed!(y) Two things come to mind that Elvis said that if said today he would be bar-b-que'd by the press. #1. Calling all the female reporters "honey" and #2 telling The Sweet Inspirations that he would replace them with The Supremes. Nowdays somebody would make something out of those statements.:blink::blink::wacko::wacko:

I don´t know how to put this....
#3. What about "I was buried in a beaver"?
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Lisarose]

Originally Posted by utmom2008
Agreed! Two things come to mind that Elvis said that if said today he would be bar-b-que'd by the press. #1. Calling all the female reporters "honey" and #2 telling The Sweet Inspirations that he would replace them with The Supremes. Nowdays somebody would make something out of those statements.
I've stated before that I forgive Elvis a lot of things I wouldn't in others, and let me tell you - he's the only man I'd let call me honey in the business place! [or darling, or dear, just call me, Elvis! :blush:]


I don´t know how to put this....
#3. What about "I was buried in a beaver"?
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: He would've been toast!

[Wendy56]

Back in that time (end of 1950s) Mexico was going trough a difficult transition. The "golden epoch" of the mexican movies was almost finished. Movie theathers were very important back then (tv didn't come out well until 1960). Also, the music culture we had here was strongly influenced by Cuba, with genders like danzón, mambo, cha-cha-chá, cuban son. And still, romantic balads singers (tríos) were yet very famous too.

Anyway, in Mexico (at least in Mexico City) the "night life" were in wild cabarets open the whole night. The transition started when City's governor Mr. Ernesto Peralta Uruchurtu announced this night life had to end. The image and reputation of the city had to be "cleaned up", so all cabarets closed very early and people couldn't go out after 1:00 am. I mean, he maybe was involved in this "bad-image" of Elvis because thought he (Uruchurtu) wouldn't have the control over his wild and young fans here.

That was the time when rumors about Elvis started. And he couldn't do much because of this "manager". Never came to Mexico and those rumors didn't end of a nice way. Here, rock'n'roll was gaining fans. The lead singer of a group named "The Teen Tops", Enrique Guzmán was the "mexican Elvis" of the time and real Elvis was left behind (when he did his Army service).

[Raised on Rock]

Back in that time (end of 1950s) Mexico was going trough a difficult transition. The "golden epoch" of the mexican movies was almost finished. Movie theathers were very important back then (tv didn't come out well until 1960). Also, the music culture we had here was strongly influenced by Cuba, with genders like danzón, mambo, cha-cha-chá, cuban son. And still, romantic balads singers (tríos) were yet very famous too.

Anyway, in Mexico (at least in Mexico City) the "night life" were in wild cabarets open the whole night. The transition started when City's governor Mr. Ernesto Peralta Uruchurtu announced this night life had to end. The image and reputation of the city had to be "cleaned up", so all cabarets closed very early and people couldn't go out after 1:00 am. I mean, he maybe was involved in this "bad-image" of Elvis because thought he (Uruchurtu) wouldn't have the control over his wild and young fans here.

That was the time when rumors about Elvis started. And he couldn't do much because of this "manager". Never came to Mexico and those rumors didn't end of a nice way. Here, rock'n'roll was gaining fans. The lead singer of a group named "The Teen Tops", Enrique Guzmán was the "mexican Elvis" of the time and real Elvis was left behind (when he did his Army service).

Rock and Roll music, and his main name: Elvis Presley was not welcomed by large amount of people both in the U.S.A. and the rest of the world back in the 50's, it was consider vulgar, a bad influence on young people etc. For the younger fans that weren´t there, taking a look into "This is Elvis" or "ELvis '56", two fine documentals on Elvis Presley, may give more insight about the why´s he wasn´t acepted, and how all the censorship, police man filming Elvis shows, and record burning happened.

Now as Wendy explains, around the late 50's, goberment censorship got heavy in Mexico, (witch-hunt Eisenhowar era like) by then, American rock and roll music was big enough to be a main object of censorship, so this was the times were the rumor we are talking about in these thread started to circulate, but once again if there is any need to be told again, that didn´t had any real efect on the fans, I mean both Elvis Presley and rock and roll fans, yet, in the same way it happened in the states, when Presley went to the Army, Chuck Berry to Jail, Buddy Holly passed away, Jerry Lee was trashed bad enoughto kill his carreer by the media, and Little Richard quited for a while, during 60-63 rock and roll music seemed to fade away and so, many Mexican rock and roll bands quit, some of their lead singers became ballad singers, actors and whatever, maybe following Presley career steps even.

Interesting story, in '60 when G.I. Blues was premiered in Mexico City, Presley-Mania went so wild (if still there is anydoubt Presley was still loved by his fans over here after those stupid rumors) that the film was needed to be stoped at the middle of the sreening, so fan exitment became anger, police needed to empty the cinema and so they did, and it was not a nice scene, so Presley films were banned in many cinemas for about a year or so.

Anyhow by '61 Presley image as a rock and roller was about to die out in the U.S. and the rest of the world until the '68 comeback, and by the time Fun in Acapulco starring Elvis Presley, Ursula Andress and Mexican actress Elsa Cardenas (so yes he kissed at least one mexican girl, altough he got paid for that lol.) premiered here in Mexico in '63, Presley image was by then total part of the establishment, the movie and the soundtrack was quite popular over here for obvious reasons, and ironically the only ones that by now might have not liked him were the die hard rock and rollers once also Presley die hard fans, same as in the U.K. or U.S. they were into ROlling Stones and Beatles now. So the lost in popularity that Presley might had during the the early 60's had nothing to do with the Elvis being a racist rumor, but with his change of image from a rocker to Mr. Nice guy, and then with the each time less interesting movies and soundtracks, same as everywhere I guess.

As a footnote goberment and media censorship over rock and roll music was still very hard here in Mexico during the rest of the 60's and early 70's, and fake nasty rumors like that about Presley saying unpleasant things about our country happened again with the Beatles, as Mexico City was on the list for their last world tour in '66, but someone in the goverment made sure that didn´t happend banning them from playing here being untrue racist comments supossedly made by them the excuse, but it was well known that the one and only true was: rock and roll was not welcome here by the establishment. We got Jim Morrison and The Doors in '67 though.

P.S. Once I attended a Mexican ELvis fan club meeting were Elsa Cardenas attended, and she got nothing to say about Presley ways towards her except the same comments all of his co-stars always say: he was a total gentelman with her, very sweet, respectful, etc. etc. etc. Same story was two others Mexican Presley co-stars Dolores del Rio (Flaming Star), and Katy Jurado (Stay Away Joe).

[cameron]

Thank you both {Raised on Rock and Wendy} for filling us in on that history.
I find things like that interesting .

I went to YouTube and found Enrique Guzmán
.He was very good and a handsome young man ,TYVM .
I got Angel in the Morning. . (y)

[Raised on Rock]

Thank you both {Raised on Rock and Wendy} for filling us in on that history.
I find things like that interesting .

I went to YouTube and found Enrique Guzmán
.He was very good and a handsome young man ,TYVM .
I got Angel in the Morning. . (y)

Nice to hear you enjoyed the info Cameron. Now Enrique Guzmán its a good example of one among many artists around the world that shaped their careers following step by step Presley´s career, achieving big succes in their respective countries by doing that. Guzmán is one that at least from '57 until '69 (No concerts years for him) seemed to just follow Presley formula as if it was the safest formula to play, proving it with succes in México, Spain and several other Spanish speaking countries.

He, Guzmán, was a rock and roller though te 50's, became a ballad singer around the early 60's, starred in a bunch of teenage musicals through the 60's, going from Mr. nice guy around '63-'66 to a more playboy like image by '67-'69, no rock and roll comback for him, and then by '69- '70 started to play big hotel showrooms. Anyhow, lacking from a fan ban base as huge as Elvis, by ´71 the Jerry Lee Lewis-Johnny Cash formula suited better for him and so he starred his own comedy and variety show with his wife Silvia Pinal through the '70s. He still performs these days.

Hope not going too much out topic, my point here is how Elvis Presley was an artistic role model for other performers as much as an icon for a whole generation here as same as in any other country. Mexicans hating Elvis? total BS. Everybody wanted to be Elvis right? from Lennon to Guzmán lol. (Not comparing them at all).

Here are some clips from Enrique Guzmán kind of following the Elvis formula pattern:

This is from the movie Acompañame '65 (Come With Me), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-U--Zqf08&feature=related The Viva Las Vegas formula.

Around the time of Double Trouble, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ZGQ96tyBY Both movies suck anyway, lol.

This is from Ok Cleopatra '69: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyBsNbCucQ The plot: a total Easy Come Easy Go/Live a Little Love a Little mix and rip off lol.

Back in '61 trying on a more Dramatic role although still a musical, the first and only one as it was not so much of a succes, similar story isn´t it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7vq0Tj87eY

Won´t bore you no more as this might be a little out of topic.

[cameron]

.
..[QUOTE]seemed to just follow Presley formula as if it was the safest formula to play, proving it with succes in México, Spain and several other Spanish speaking countries . I only know a small amount of Spanish, but I enjoyed this. It appears he did follow along the same career formula as Elvis.
I appreciate you doing all this. I love learning about different countries and people .
{I never did learn to dance like that though.:blush:}
Thank you so much !

[Raised on Rock]

WHY MEXICANS HATED ELVIS!
The movie Los chiflados del rock'n roll, a musical spoof, was promoted with posters showing Elvis in drag, being shot by rifle-toting men in sombreros, under a banner reading "Die Elvis Presley!"
http://www.elvisunlimited.com/news.asp?page_id=79&news_id=218

So about this movie, I had to do some research on that one, it turns out that the movie came out in early '57, right in middle of the cultural/generational shock that rock music caused around the world, it was also the time when rock and roll records were by rule making much more money than all the previous popular acts, in the U.S. many blues, jazz, country and pop artist saw their careers falling apart because of the rock music craze, Mexico was no diferent, and the same happened with many bolero and ballad singers, even actors from the so called golden era saw their good time fade away when "Love Me Tender" or "Jailhouse Rock" premiered over here.

So this movie "Los Chiflados del Rock" (The Crazy Men of Rock) was a parody about how american rock and roll music, along with Cuban influenced rythms like mambo, where not only finishing and era of double morals and sexual repression but with hundreds the careers and night clubs. The plot: A group of five nightclub owners, all played by actors from the golden era of mexican cinema (representing the older generation that simply hate rock music) face the bankruptcy of their business unless they can come up with an idea to make money quickly. The idea: update their acts doing mambo and ROCK AND ROLL PRESLEY STYLE. So the movie poster: showing Elvis in drag, being shot by rifle-toting men in sombreros, was about how the old generation of nightclub costumers were shocked by these NEW IDEA, they also represent the old macho generation who could not understand this pink dressed cat wiggling his *** singing Blue Suede Shoes, obviously for them Presley was a maricon, just like in the States Presley was a "Negroe" from the point of view of the old racist generation. So that´s the story of that movie poster reading Die Elvis Presley, it is no representative of how MExicans didn´t liked Elvis Presley, the movie was nothing but a comedy about a generational clash reaction, and these was TWO years before that prefabricated rumor about Presley not liking mexican women was started.

Most of all that forgoten '57 movie was a reaction to another mexian movie, the 1956 well remember and now a rock and roll lovers classic "Las locuras del rock and roll" (The Rock and Roll Craze), which was a pro-rock and roll movie, kind of a our version of "The Blackboard Jungle", It is importan to mention than if one big chunk of the old generations hated Presley, the Latin Jazz scene as well as other afrocuban rythms scenes here in Mexico, all musicians from the 40's, appreciated and accepted Elvis Presley and Rock music so well that in fact incorporated the new rythmn to their music, going as far as doing Elvis covers on their acts.

Gloria Ríos former Mexican Latin Jazz singer made her debut as a Rock and Roll singer doing a BIll Halley cover in the '56 movie "Las Locuras del Rock and Roll", also did she did a cover of Hearbreak Hotel. No need to say when you watch that clip that her stage moves generated the same kind of controversy here in Mexico that Presley did months ealier at the Milton Berle Show while singing Hound Dog in the U.S. no doubt then: Elvis Presley was a "bad" influence, no wonder, a year later -Die Elvis Presley- readed on the banners of an answer movie next year.

Here´s Gloria Rios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILybBOmMrc

And here are some other Latin Jazz bands from Mexico going rock and roll, sounds weird now, but back in the 50's they were dance floor efective, and good enough to got the censors in their backs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGn6oE2hKik&feature=related

[MIElvis]

Who cares....enough people DID like him to make him the King of Rock & Roll, I would say that there were Mexicans in that group also. Why do we post such negative things?

[Unchained Melody]

Why do we post such negative things?

If you don't like the topic feel free to start a thread about whatever you would find appropriate to discuss !! (y)

I found this to be a very interesting discussion with some great replies esepcially from you Raised On Rock, thanks for the video's aswell !!:notworthy

[Diane]

I found this a very interesting thread as well as I'd never heard that mexicans hated Elvis....and don't believe it.

Thank you Raisedonrock and Wendy for your views as to what really happened. It's always good to hear both sides of a story.

Diane

[cameron]

So about this movie, I had to do some research on that one, it turns out that the movie came out in early '57, right in middle of the cultural/generational shock that rock music caused around the world, it was also the time when rock and roll records were by rule making much more money than all the previous popular acts, in the U.S. many blues, jazz, country and pop artist saw their careers falling apart because of the rock music craze, Mexico was no diferent, and the same happened with many bolero and ballad singers, even actors from the so called golden era saw their good time fade away when "Love Me Tender" or "Jailhouse Rock" premiered over here.

So this movie "Los Chiflados del Rock" (The Crazy Men of Rock) was a parody about how american rock and roll music, along with Cuban influenced rythms like mambo, where not only finishing and era of double morals and sexual repression but with hundreds the careers and night clubs. The plot: A group of five nightclub owners, all played by actors from the golden era of mexican cinema (representing the older generation that simply hate rock music) face the bankruptcy of their business unless they can come up with an idea to make money quickly. The idea: update their acts doing mambo and ROCK AND ROLL PRESLEY STYLE. So the movie poster: showing Elvis in drag, being shot by rifle-toting men in sombreros, was about how the old generation of nightclub costumers were shocked by these NEW IDEA, they also represent the old macho generation who could not understand this pink dressed cat wiggling his *** singing Blue Suede Shoes, obviously for them Presley was a maricon, just like in the States Presley was a "Negroe" from the point of view of the old racist generation. So that´s the story of that movie poster reading Die Elvis Presley, it is no representative of how MExicans didn´t liked Elvis Presley, the movie was nothing but a comedy about a generational clash reaction, and these was TWO years before that prefabricated rumor about Presley not liking mexican women was started.

Most of all that forgoten '57 movie was a reaction to another mexian movie, the 1956 well remember and now a rock and roll lovers classic "Las locuras del rock and roll" (The Rock and Roll Craze), which was a pro-rock and roll movie, kind of a our version of "The Blackboard Jungle", It is importan to mention than if one big chunk of the old generations hated Presley, the Latin Jazz scene as well as other afrocuban rythms scenes here in Mexico, all musicians from the 40's, appreciated and accepted Elvis Presley and Rock music so well that in fact incorporated the new rythmn to their music, going as far as doing Elvis covers on their acts.

Gloria Ríos former Mexican Latin Jazz singer made her debut as a Rock and Roll singer doing a BIll Halley cover in the '56 movie "Las Locuras del Rock and Roll", also did she did a cover of Hearbreak Hotel. No need to say when you watch that clip that her stage moves generated the same kind of controversy here in Mexico that Presley did months ealier at the Milton Berle Show while singing Hound Dog in the U.S. no doubt then: Elvis Presley was a "bad" influence, no wonder, a year later -Die Elvis Presley- readed on the banners of an answer movie next year.

Here´s Gloria Rios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILybBOmMrc

And here are some other Latin Jazz bands from Mexico going rock and roll, sounds weird now, but back in the 50's they were dance floor efective, and good enough to got the censors in their backs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGn6oE2hKik&feature=related

Thank you !! This is one of the best threads here .IMO.
Rare to find an intelligent conversation----and Gloria Rios was wonderful !
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[Wendy56]

Thank you both {Raised on Rock and Wendy} for filling us in on that history.
I find things like that interesting .

I went to YouTube and found Enrique Guzmán
.He was very good and a handsome young man ,TYVM .
I got Angel in the Morning. . (y)

You are so welcome cameron. (y) :)

P.S: Check, if you can, this link. One of my favorites song (there's an older version, but can't find it online). :blush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuhFcz5G-kQ

[Wendy56]

P.S. Once I attended a Mexican ELvis fan club meeting were Elsa Cardenas attended, and she got nothing to say about Presley ways towards her except the same comments all of his co-stars always say: he was a total gentelman with her, very sweet, respectful (...)

You did? I was in the FFEFC. And Elsa (and a lucky lady for kissing Elvis!) is a fine woman. Got her autograph and heard nice stories about Elvis... .

[Wendy56]

Here you can see a parody of Elvis. Is a clip of a mexican movie. I don't remember the title, sorrry. The lead guy is "Roberto Cobos" (his name in the film is Elvio Prenteiz...), famous for his dancing style. His role in this movie is of a man that has a lot of cars and money, so he can get every lady he wants (plus an expert in rock'n'roll dancing). I thought this movie was funny and also funny to find it online. :lmfao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXS7hIlppS0&feature=related

[Wendy56]

My final comment about this topic-thread is: I get a bit(?) upseat when I hear "mexicans hated (or hate) Elvis" because is such a foolish thing. Not for one rumor or "red-newspaper note" Mexico is "guilty" for not liking Elvis Presley. May be people that don't like EP, but that's just normal I guess (like I may not like The B..tls). It's only a matter of musical taste. Also, I ain't gonna get tired of explaining why those old rumors were such a big lie and/or bad publicity. People can believe me or not, but what I can really say, is that there are big EP fans here in Mexico. I'm included in this group and feel so proud by being, for so many reasons, an Elvis fan. :notworthy

[utmom2008]

Here you can see a parody of Elvis. Is a clip of a mexican movie. I don't remember the title, sorrry. The lead guy is "Roberto Cobos" (his name in the film is Elvio Prenteiz...), famous for his dancing style. His role in this movie is of a man that has a lot of cars and money, so he can get every lady he wants (plus an expert in rock'n'roll dancing). I thought this movie was funny and also funny to find it online. :lmfao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXS7hIlppS0&feature=related

That clip is hilarious!:lmfao::lmfao:

[Raised on Rock]

You did? I was in the FFEFC. And Elsa (and a lucky lady for kissing Elvis!) is a fine woman. Got her autograph and heard nice stories about Elvis... .

I used to attend a fan club when I was around 17 old, can´t even remember the name of it, lol, they got a show in Radio 13 around '95: Una Cita con Elvis (A Date With Elvis), they rented a small cinema near metro Hidalgo once and they screened Fun in Acapulco, Elsa Cardenas was invited and she in fact was asked about that rumor and she said it was all BS.

Anyhow I stopped attending that or any other Elvis fan club in Mexico few years latter, and I do not attend any right now, although some Elvis mates of mine do, what can I say, busy man I am, yeah sure lol.

Do you attend any Elvis fan club right now?

[Wendy56]

Do you attend any Elvis fan club right now?
Nop, but I did for seven years. Then I became a busy woman. :D And I guess I still (barely) remember the radio show you tell me about. It was cut out many years ago.
No sé, pero quizá estuvimos en el mismo club, y ni enterados. :lmfao: Yo fui socia de 1999-2006, con un pseudo-mini-puesto en la "joven mesa directiva". Pero algunas cosas dejaron de funcionar bien: una fue el ambiente, y otra, el poco tiempo libre que me quedaba (debido la escuela y el trabajo). Interesante época, pero de ésa yo no obtuve un beneficio de tipo :greedy:
Guess someone doesn't need a club to be an Elvis fan. :P

[Raised on Rock]

Nop, but I did for seven years. Then I became a busy woman. :D And I guess I still (barely) remember the radio show you tell me about. It was cut out many years ago. :P

Back in the 90's I remember 3 fan clubs over here, I belonged to the one that was leaded by Radio host Georgina R. Trejo, I remember her well, nice woman, I attended that fan club from '95 to '98, then I went to University and left that behind. I enjoyied pretty much been part of that but these days I guess I enjoy more been a fan sharing Elvis stuff with a few Elvis mates at home and visiting forums like these in the net. Anyhow, let me now if there is any interesting stuff around here these aug if you are still conected with some people of the fan club.

Saludos.

[KPM]

Too me this is an example of misunderstanding, jealousy, exagerration and out and out lying which causes more trouble for the world than anything else.
Political Correctness was brought on by the huge prejudices which are inbreed into our society across the board.
The natural fear of people who are different from what we are accustomed too is universal- across all races, creeds, colors, & sexual orientation.
Lack of understanding of other people and cultures with preconceived ideas of what they are is the problem. But going the opposite with total worry about what is PC- is not the right reaction either. Its got to where you can not make a playful joke about anything which is not blown into a crisis by someone. Even totally innocent statements can be mistaken for a slight-then the trouble starts. We have gone too far in the opposite direction IMO
Don Rickles has been doing insult comedy for 50 years-he is as crude and rude as you get and he spares no one. Yet he is accepted because he has always insulted everyone without a worry that they will not "get it" He somewhere during his act points out that differences are good-that its okay to laugh at misconceptions-its not personal. He tells everyone lets laugh at the differences instead of fight over them. If more people looked at it that way-instead of looking for reasons to hate we'd all be better off.

[Diane]

(y)(y)(y) Hopefully someday we'll get a happy medium.

Diane

[Wendy56]

I belonged to the one that was leaded by Radio host Georgina R. Trejo
I was a member of that same club. Pero no creo estar en los mejores términos con los directivos (quizá es una larga historia), pero en fin. Aún me envían mails de los eventos que hacen y tengo los teléfonos de la presidenta y otros que están en la directiva.
I'll let you know if I get the info about he upcomming evets. :mail:

[Raised on Rock]

Too me this is an example of misunderstanding, jealousy, exagerration and out and out lying which causes more trouble for the world than anything else.
Political Correctness was brought on by the huge prejudices which are inbreed into our society across the board.
The natural fear of people who are different from what we are accustomed too is universal- across all races, creeds, colors, & sexual orientation.
Lack of understanding of other people and cultures with preconceived ideas of what they are is the problem. But going the opposite with total worry about what is PC- is not the right reaction either. Its got to where you can not make a playful joke about anything which is not blown into a crisis by someone. Even totally innocent statements can be mistaken for a slight-then the trouble starts. We have gone too far in the opposite direction IMO
Don Rickles has been doing insult comedy for 50 years-he is as crude and rude as you get and he spares no one. Yet he is accepted because he has always insulted everyone without a worry that they will not "get it" He somewhere during his act points out that differences are good-that its okay to laugh at misconceptions-its not personal. He tells everyone lets laugh at the differences instead of fight over them. If more people looked at it that way-instead of looking for reasons to hate we'd all be better off.


This is a great post, as I write it on a post before, it is ridiculous to believe a whole country hated one singer just because what? a Mexican movie made fun of Elvis and "Die Elvis Presley" was readed on the promotional posters? so then should we write an article about how the U.S. hated Elvis because all the comedy shows that made fun of him back in the 50's and still do today?

Well sure thing, half U.S.A. hated Elvis, same as half Mexico, and half of the world hate him when he first started out, there were two generations clashing, and the other half did sure liked him, and beyond public record burnings, the banning, the names calling, the gossip, Presley (or the phenomena he represented) changed the way we understand things in society, rock and roll music, Elvis Presley was, back in the 50's the begining of an artistic and social revolution, obviously then, whatever side of the wall you are, some people was there to hate dislike him.

I personaly love Mr. Presley for all the people he made sick, as Jame Brown put it: He taught white America to get down, these side of the border we should add: and old conservative Mexico too.

[elvislady]

HATE... is a very strong word. i dont think anyone hated elvis presley its not possible.
elvislady;)

[presley31]

HATE... is a very strong word. i dont think anyone hated elvis presley its not possible.
elvislady;)

I know some people where l live that hate elvis, so there are people out there.

[Unchained Melody]

I know some people where l live that hate elvis, so there are people out there.

Like mama always said, If ya ain't got nothin nice to say, don't say nothing a-tall.......:P'

In all seriousness, I believe those who did "hate" Elvis or dislike him very much and were critical of him was lead heavily on jealousy...

[presley31]

Like mama always said, If ya ain't got nothin nice to say, don't say nothing a-tall.......:P'

In all seriousness, I believe those who did "hate" Elvis or dislike him very much and were critical of him was lead heavily on jealousy...

it got so bad with there insults l had to stop being friends with them. I can't stand anybody saying things that they have no idea about:blink:

[Unchained Melody]

it got so bad with there insults l had to stop being friends with them. I can't stand anybody saying things that they have no idea about:blink:

I know what you mean, back in school everytime someone would say something about Elvis..it all ended in jokes about him dying on the commod. Made me want chew nails when people poke jokes at stuff like that, do they not realize the pain and hurt that would have done to Elvis.(n)(n)(n)

[elvislady]

I know some people where l live that hate elvis, so there are people out there.

How can you HATE someone you have never meet or spoke with, i agree you can dislike people who you have never meet or spoke with but HATE i would have to ask these people why they HATE elvis so much.
elvislady;)

[presley31]

How can you HATE someone you have never meet or spoke with, i agree you can dislike people who you have never meet or spoke with but HATE i would have to ask these people why they HATE elvis so much.
elvislady;)

good question elvislady, but there are people out there that have zero respect for elvis.

[elvislady]

good question elvislady, but there are people out there that have zero respect for elvis.

I agree with you presley, there not woth mentioning.
elvislady;)

[Unchained Melody]

good question elvislady, but there are people out there that have zero respect for elvis.

And its sad when all the man lived for was to make others happy....

[elvislady]

And its sad when all the man lived for was to make others happy....

Its the world we live in unfortunaltly.
elvislady;)

[Raised on Rock]

How can you HATE someone you have never meet or spoke with, i agree you can dislike people who you have never meet or spoke with but HATE i would have to ask these people why they HATE elvis so much.
elvislady;)

Hate or dislike, I was not talking about the cruel jokes people often made about Elvis sad decline. I was talking about the early days, and the cultural shock that Elvis caused around the world, seems that most fans have forgoten about this aspect of Elvis early career, part of the Elvis phenomenon back in the 50's was about how harshly was he criticized, and how he was not at all accepted in many homes across america and the whole world, I guess things have changed so much that is hard to imagine now how that Elvis singing Hound Dog on TV at the Milton Berle show do was ofencive to hundreds of people, people that wrote hundreds of hate mail to TV stations asking for not showing Presley on TV no more, asking radio stations not to play his records anymore, trying to cancel his shows, doing pulbic demostrations warning people about this horrible abomination called Elvis Presley, making up nasty rumors about him etc.

Sure thing some people hated him, being that hate the reaction of an ill society that did not wanted to be dared about get rid of his own disfunctional morals.

[Wendy56]

(Sure thing ...) being that hate the reaction of an ill society that did not wanted to be dared about get rid of his own disfunctional morals.
Interesting (kind-of-poetic) lines... :D :hmm: