Things from the revelations from the mm

[presley31]

I noticed there's a couple things that seem alittle off to me

Elvis didn't want to go with priscilla to have lisa? He asked lamer do l need to be there.

after lisa was born lamer again said he didn't like priscilla anymore and he didn't want anything to do with her anymore.

can anybody else find anything that seems alittle off about anything in the book.

[MissyM]

Why do you say that is a little off. It says he didn't want to have anything to do with her sexually. Even Cilla says that. But they did resume their sex life eventually.

I don't remember it saying Elvis didn't want to go to the hosp. It did say they planned on how they were going to get there with out being noticed.

[presley31]

Why do you say that is a little off. It says he didn't want to have anything to do with her sexually. Even Cilla says that. But they did resume their sex life eventually.

I don't remember it saying Elvis didn't want to go to the hosp. It did say they planned on how they were going to get there with out being noticed.

Look in carless love, it says alot different.

I have the book right in front of me Missy and it says elvis didn't want to be there with priscilla and asked the guys if he had to be there.

[utmom2008]

Look in carless love, it says alot different.

I have the book right in front of me Missy and it says elvis didn't want to be there with priscilla and asked the guys if he had to be there.

Are you saying that it states this in 2 books?:hmm::hmm:

[presley31]

Are you saying that it states this in 2 books?:hmm::hmm:

yep its two different stories so who do you believe the the mm or peter guralink?

Since alot of fans say that the mm are lying about lots of things, l figure we could all put the lies that people think the mm had said in books and elsewhere on this thread

[Genie]

:'(


Folks, I am a life long Elvis fan and I'd also like to make claim that I am also a friend.... I love the man, I respect him and I don't feel that anything unkind said about him should be anything worthy of dwelling upon.
Whatever his reasons were for anything he did, or did not do, in the eyes of the people who betrayed and wrote things so personal about him, leaves me to the only conclusion a true Elvis fan can take... Walk a mile in his shoes!
Do not believe all that you read, or see or hear...
This beautiful, loving, gentle man was not perfect, but few of are. He did a great deal with what he had, and his limitations and his life was seriously directed by other people. Leaving him with almost no freedom, no choices and certainly no voice of his own. He could deny all the bad rumors all day and anyone willing to listen, would know he was telling the God's truth.
He chose to stay out of that scene. He could have written many comebacks to the MM stories. He was wise to let it lay there in the mud where it belonged.
Elvis, I love you..and I will always and forever love you. Right or wrong, I will be on your side, until the very end of time.
~Genie

[MissyM]

Where do you think Peter gets his info from? In Elvis day by day he says his sources are too many to mention. And he also says that he could be wrong and if anyone knows differently please tell him. So I'd say that the MM are on his list of sources since they were with Elvis the most. Of course there are going to be inconsistancies because some of the things are based on assumptions and opinions. Like who Elvis had affairs with, no one was in the room so all those around him do is try and put two and two togeather. But of all people who have the most information to do so, they do. And still there will be some inconsistancies because with certain information, there is just no way to know 100 percent. But I believe people who told me things because I consider the source. No one ever once told me a lie about anything in their lives, about their lives, before Elvis died or after. So I have no reason to doubt there words. If they were liars on a personal level and about their own lives then I would have to say hmm, I wonder if what they say about Elvis is truth.

[presley31]

Where do you think Peter gets his info from? In Elvis day by day he says his sources are too many to mention. And he also says that he could be wrong and if anyone knows differently please tell him. So I'd say that the MM are on his list of sources since they were with Elvis the most. Of course there are going to be inconsistancies because some of the things are based on assumptions and opinions. Like who Elvis had affairs with, no one was in the room so all those around him do is try and put two and two togeather. But of all people who have the most information to do so, they do. And still there will be some inconsistancies because with certain information, there is just no way to know 100 percent. But I believe people who told me things because I consider the source. No one ever once told me a lie about anything in their lives, about their lives, before Elvis died or after. So I have no reason to doubt there words. If they were liars on a personal level and about their own lives then I would have to say hmm, I wonder if what they say about Elvis is truth.

missy in your opinion why does the elvis fans all say the mm are lying about things if there stories are 100% ture and honest?

[cameron]

:'(


Folks, I am a life long Elvis fan and I'd also like to make claim that I am also a friend.... I love the man, I respect him and I don't feel that anything unkind said about him should be anything worthy of dwelling upon.
Whatever his reasons were for anything he did, or did not do, in the eyes of the people who betrayed and wrote things so personal about him, leaves me to the only conclusion a true Elvis fan can take... Walk a mile in his shoes!
Do not believe all that you read, or see or hear...
This beautiful, loving, gentle man was not perfect, but few of are. He did a great deal with what he had, and his limitations and his life was seriously directed by other people. Leaving him with almost no freedom, no choices and certainly no voice of his own. He could deny all the bad rumors all day and anyone willing to listen, would know he was telling the God's truth.
He chose to stay out of that scene. He could have written many comebacks to the MM stories. He was wise to let it lay there in the mud where it belonged.
Elvis, I love you..and I will always and forever love you. Right or wrong, I will be on your side, until the very end of time.
~Genie
Hello, Genie--
While I don't think Elvis was the devil, neither do I believe he was a saint.
I don't like talking about the trash published about Elvis myself.
Until someone can prove differently ,I'm afraid it's too late !
That's what people do on MB, discuss the good and the bad.
I DO believe Elvis could have told his own stories and the MM and others were just as screwed up as he was, if not worse ;) .
But, you see; they've had 31 years of no one looking too hard at them!

I understand how you feel, I just don't see any way to stop it . Good luck !!

[MissyM]

Are you kidding me, no one looking at them too hard. They have been scrutinized from day one. By Priscilla, Elvis, Vernon, each other and after Elvis died the public.

[presley31]

Are you kidding me, no one looking at them too hard. They have been scrutinized from day one. By Priscilla, Elvis, Vernon, each other and after Elvis died the public.

I guess you just missed the mm thread that was a couple weeks ago;)

[MissyM]

missy in your opinion why does the elvis fans all say the mm are lying about things if there stories are 100% ture and honest?
______________
I don't go by what "all" of the have said for one thing. I have plenty of sources besides them. It's called family.And yes even in families there will be different viewpoint but so far everything I've been told by one the other is consistant with. Also, like I said, some is opinion, some beleive what they were told by each other and Elvis. Some have just put two and two togeather and reached different conclusions. It's not uncommon at all. We all do that kind of thing. Why are they held to such a high standard. We look at them and there words and suck it up but darned if they do and darned if they don't. People are hungry for every ounce of details of Elvis's life. It's impossible to have that many people 100 percent consistant. If a crime happens not all the witnesses see the same things and surely their assumptions will differ. How is it so odd that it would not be that way with Elvis's coming and goings? And yes, I'd say some just all out lie. But one must look at the motivation.

[Getlo]

Folks, I am a life long Elvis fan and I'd also like to make claim that I am also a friend....Walk a mile in his shoes!

:rolleyes:

I don't have the Revelations book to hand, but ...

Could it have been that Elvis did not want to be there for the delivery, as opposed to not wanting to be there at all? Obviously, he didn't go into the delivery room (that was a rare occurrence for expectant fathers then).

[TotallyInsane]

Oh Genie,
When you make a claim to be a friend - you must post pictures or people won't believe you!!

[presley31]

:rolleyes:

I don't have the Revelations book to hand, but ...

Could it have been that Elvis did not want to be there for the delivery, as opposed to not wanting to be there at all? Obviously, he didn't go into the delivery room (that was a rare occurrence for expectant fathers then).

gelto could you plaese tell me why lamer would say in revelations that lisa was just another trophy for elvis, cause l get the impression lisa was more than that to elvis?

[ehollier]

I noticed there's a couple things that seem alittle off to me

Elvis didn't want to go with priscilla to have lisa? He asked lamer do l need to be there.

after lisa was born lamer again said he didn't like priscilla anymore and he didn't want anything to do with her anymore.

can anybody else find anything that seems alittle off about anything in the book.

I don't recall anything about Elvis not wanting to with Priscilla to the hospital. I did read that he said he didn't like Priscilla anymore some time after Lisa was born. When he said that, what did he mean? Did he really dislike her or was he saying this regarding something specific? I know we can't scrutnize everything Elvis says b/c he's not here to question. But really, would he mean that if he remained married to her. I doubt it.

[TotallyInsane]

A lot of men have issues with their women after they have babies!! The babies get all the attention and the men feel left out!! Maybe he was needing some attention?????

[Getlo]

gelto could you plaese tell me why lamer would say in revelations that lisa was just another trophy for elvis

Er, you'd have to ask Lamar why he said that, if he did.

Obviously, Lisa was the love of Elvis' life.

[Jungleroom76]

Why do you say that is a little off. It says he didn't want to have anything to do with her sexually. Even Cilla says that. But they did resume their sex life eventually.

I've heard that same thing several different times over the years...if I recall correctly, this was even incorporated into some of the various Elvis biopics that have been released throughout the years! :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

[ehollier]

A lot of men have issues with their women after they have babies!! The babies get all the attention and the men feel left out!! Maybe he was needing some attention?????

I think this theory proved itself in his relationships after Priscilla left. If you believe what these woman say, he needed to be babied and be the center of attention.

[Jungleroom76]

missy in your opinion why does the elvis fans all say the mm are lying about things if there stories are 100% ture and honest?

I'm with you on this one Jen...several of the stories told by the various MM members over the years have been questioned and/or proven to be incorrect, so based on their previous track record, I would have to personally say that unless something they said can be proven with 100% accuracy and facts, then I take everything the MM says with a grain of salt...

As for Guralnick, has anything that he has written been proven to be inaccurate? Not that I am aware of... :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

[Getlo]

several of the stories told by the various MM members over the years have been questioned and/or proven to be incorrect

Examples, please? Especially from What Happened ...

[Getlo]

I think this theory proved itself in his relationships after Priscilla left. If you believe what these woman say, he needed to be babied and be the center of attention.

I think the theory about Elvis sleeping with Cilla and mothers in general is far simpler than that.

It's almost biological; and forgive my vulgarity, but Elvis simply didn't want to go anywhere near where a baby had popped out.

I'm the same way. Once a woman has given birth ... well, NO THANKS!

[ehollier]

I think the theory about Elvis sleeping with Cilla and mothers in general is far simpler than that.

It's almost biological; and forgive my vulgarity, but Elvis simply didn't want to go anywhere near where a baby had popped out.

I'm the same way. Once a woman has given birth ... well, NO THANKS!

Quite poetic!!! I don't know of anyone who could have said it with more class.

[cameron]

Oh Genie,
When you make a claim to be a friend - you must post pictures or people won't believe you!!
If someone says they're his friend. I believe it !
Their actions usually speaks for them ! :)

[Diane]

Getlo you are right. In those days doctors didn't want the fathers to be in the delivery room. My husband wasn't allowed when our daughter was born in 1966 but we had no problem when our son was born in 1971...big change in less than 4 years.

If Elvis had really wanted to attend the delivery though, I'm sure he could have talked his way into it.:)

Diane

[Getlo]

Getlo you are right.

Words everyone should live by.

I was speaking with my father about this only the other day. He wasn't allowed in the delivery room in the mid-60s to see me born.

I asked him, would he have gone if he had been allowed to.

His response: "No bloody way!"

[utmom2008]

I think the theory about Elvis sleeping with Cilla and mothers in general is far simpler than that.

It's almost biological; and forgive my vulgarity, but Elvis simply didn't want to go anywhere near where a baby had popped out.

I'm the same way. Once a woman has given birth ... well, NO THANKS!

OK...but here is my question to that. What about those of us who had C-Sections?:lol: I've had 2 babies in my stomach.....but only in my stomach.;);)

[ehollier]

OK...but here is my question to that. What about those of us who had C-Sections?:lol: I've had 2 babies in my stomach.....but only in my stomach.;);)


As far as Elvis is concerned, I don't think he would get that far into finding out. As far as you are concerned, apparently having a 2nd child didn't affect your relationship at all!!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[cameron]

I know there are men that lose their desire after their wife has a baby!
Most of that comes from something in childhood. Most of them get over that ! ;)

[utmom2008]

I know there are men that lose their desire after their wife has a baby!
Most of them get over that ! ;)

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Diane]

I just can't believe in that story about Elvis not wanting sex with Priscilla because she had a baby. Their marriage was already in trouble and I think she just couldn't handle the thought that he just didn't want "her".

Maybe I'm all off base, but boy that woman sure could pout and sulk from looking at some of her pictures. She also has a very cunning look in others or is it just me because I don't like her? I sure wouldn't want to be on her bad side.:'(

I'm not equating cunning here with intelligence, to me they are two completely different qualities. Well, one is a quality and one isn't.:)

Diane

[utmom2008]

I just can't believe in that story about Elvis not wanting sex with Priscilla because she had a baby. Their marriage was already in trouble and I think she just couldn't handle the thought that he just didn't want "her".

Maybe I'm all off base, but boy that woman sure could pout and sulk from looking at some of her pictures. She also has a very cunning look in others or is it just me because I don't like her? I sure wouldn't want to be on her bad side.:'(

I'm not equating cunning here with intelligence, to me they are two completely different qualities. Well, one is a quality and one isn't.:)

Diane

I understand what point you are making Diane...and I agree with you 100%.;);)

[MissyM]

Elvis did have sex with her after Lisa!!! Just not right away. Let's not forget she had an affair also when Lisa was tiny. Yeh, that has a way of dampening the sex life. But none the less he tried to get over it and they did have a sex life.

[presley31]

Elvis did have sex with her after Lisa!!! Just not right away.

yes but according to priscilla he tryed but wasn't cosy doing so.

[utmom2008]

yes but according to priscilla he tryed but wasn't cosy doing so.

:blink::blink::blink::blink: :supriced::supriced: :blink::blink::blink::blink:
Can you explain what that means?

[utmom2008]

Let's not forget she had an affair also when Lisa was tiny. Yeh, that has a way of dampening the sex life.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[midnight]

I saw on Youtube an interview with Priscilla from Australia, I believe, and the interviewer asks her directly if she and Elvis had sex after the birth of Lisa and she said YES. I watched it twice to make sure I heard it right! She spoke of him so sweetly! Yet she wrote such awful things about him in her book , and that Elvis and Me movie that was watched by so many people!! I will never forget going to work the next day and everyone talking about how awful Elvis was and how he raped her!! I was disgusted!! She has done so much damage to his image and now she is trying to patch it up! To think she let Lisa read that book!! I`d say Lisa turned out pretty good considering all she has had to cope with.

[presley31]

:blink::blink::blink::blink: :supriced::supriced: :blink::blink::blink::blink:
Can you explain what that means?

Well lets just say he had sex but he didn't like it with her;)

[ehollier]

:blink::blink::blink::blink: :supriced::supriced: :blink::blink::blink::blink:
Can you explain what that means?

According to Britanica:

cosy-To try to get on friendly or intimate terms;
ingratiate oneself;

but I still am not understanding what that means in relation to the post or their relationship.

[ehollier]

Well lets just say he had sex but he didn't like it with her;)

Maybe Getlo is right....its that thing about the baby coming from there.....

[utmom2008]

According to Britanica:

cosy-To try to get on friendly or intimate terms;
ingratiate oneself;

but I still am not understanding what that means in relation to the post or their relationship.

According to Webster's:
snug, warm and comfortable......and it's COZY.:lol::lol:

[presley31]

Maybe Getlo is right....its that thing about the baby coming from there.....

Billy smith says it pretty much here if elvis was attraced to a woman he didn't care if she had a litter, but lost interest with priscilla.

lamer says elvis slept with his mother when she was sick but didn't want to lie near his wife when she become a mother.

[midnight]

I can`t understand why some men lose their desire for sex because of what comes out of "there". I would be more concerned of what has been in "there"! Funny how that does not turn some men off!!!

[utmom2008]

I can`t understand why some men lose their desire for sex because of what comes out of "there". I would be more concerned of what has been in "there"! Funny how that does not turn some men off!!!

As in......who has been in there.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

According to Webster's:
snug, warm and comfortable......and it's COZY.:lol::lol:

Actually, I didn't make another typo. That was the spelling given in Britanica. As in "tea cosy" - Maybe its an English spelling.

[midnight]

You got it Rosanne!!!!

[utmom2008]

I can`t understand why some men lose their desire for sex because of what comes out of "there". I would be more concerned of what has been in "there"! Funny how that does not turn some men off!!!


As in......who has been in there.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Let's not forget she had an affair also when Lisa was tiny. Yeh, that has a way of dampening the sex life.

Maybe Elvis couldn't get past a visual of Pris' dance instructor. Instead of Oh the Places You'll Go Elvis was thinking Oh the Places You've Been.:supriced:;);):lol:

[utmom2008]

I saw on Youtube an interview with Priscilla from Australia, I believe, and the interviewer asks her directly if she and Elvis had sex after the birth of Lisa and she said YES. I watched it twice to make sure I heard it right! She spoke of him so sweetly! Yet she wrote such awful things about him in her book , and that Elvis and Me movie that was watched by so many people!! I will never forget going to work the next day and everyone talking about how awful Elvis was and how he raped her!! I was disgusted!! She has done so much damage to his image and now she is trying to patch it up! To think she let Lisa read that book!! I`d say Lisa turned out pretty good considering all she has had to cope with.

Agree...Agree....(y)(y)

[presley31]

Getlo you are right. In those days doctors didn't want the fathers to be in the delivery room. My husband wasn't allowed when our daughter was born in 1966 but we had no problem when our son was born in 1971...big change in less than 4 years.

If Elvis had really wanted to attend the delivery though, I'm sure he could have talked his way into it.:)

Diane

I didn't know that diane about the fathers, but l'am thankful my guy was there(y)

[presley31]

Quite poetic!!! I don't know of anyone who could have said it with more class.

Can't remember anybody saying that on here, but thanks for the infor gelto.

[midnight]

Rosanne, You are too funny!!!! You should be writing scripts for some of those late night shows or maybe you should be hosting your own. The Rosanne Show. Heeeeerrrrrrreeees Rosie!! That was suppose to be my Johnny Carson intro....

[ehollier]

... she wrote such awful things about him in her book , and that Elvis and Me movie that was watched by so many people!! I will never forget going to work the next day and everyone talking about how awful Elvis was and how he raped her!! I was disgusted!! She has done so much damage to his image and now she is trying to patch it up! To think she let Lisa read that book!! I`d say Lisa turned out pretty good considering all she has had to cope with.

I read Priscilla's book twice. I don't remember her saying aweful things about him. Actually, I thought she was pretty restrained considering what has been said in other books. I do not recall her being disrespectful to his memory and since opening Graceland, has done so much to promote and protect his image. She may appear cool or uncaring, but she and EPE has done a marvelous job of protecting his image.

[MissyM]

So you think telling lies about him is respectfull. You know like Elvis told her to where her hair and make up a certain way and then later saying it was her idea and why didn't he tell her it looked weird. Oh wait, ya when she said that the "grew apart" and forgot the part about her having and affair when Lisa was 3 months old? Oh you mean how she still says that they had such a "special relationship" when he was in the Army when actually he was involved with three other women while there and going to the clubs? Or maybe it was when she said that she's trying to preserve his legacy while allowing Bobble Head and Mickey Mouse Elvis's to be sold. Yeh right.

[presley31]

So you think telling lies about him is respectfull. You know like Elvis told her to where her hair and make up a certain way and then later saying it was her idea and why didn't he tell her it looked weird. Oh wait, ya when she said that the "grew apart" and forgot the part about her having and affair when Lisa was 3 months old? Oh you mean how she still says that they had such a "special relationship" when he was in the Army when actually he was involved with three other women while there and going to the clubs? Or maybe it was when she said that she's trying to preserve his legacy while allowing Bobble Head and Mickey Mouse Elvis's to be sold. Yeh right.


I think you should blame that on jack sodan who has money's signs coming out of everywhere(n)

[MissyM]

Jack told lies about Elvis? Oh yeh, the merchandise, hey someone gave him control of it and someone was on the board who approves this stuff. So ya know, the buck can't just stop at Soden especially when she is bragging all the way to the bank about preserving the "legacy".

[presley31]

Jack told lies about Elvis? Oh yeh, the merchandise, hey someone gave him control of it and someone was on the board who approves this stuff. So ya know, the buck can't just stop at Soden especially when she is bragging all the way to the bank about preserving the "legacy".

whats that saying about lisa missy since she knows whats going on with graceland stuff too??

[ehollier]

So you think telling lies about him is respectfull. You know like Elvis told her to where her hair and make up a certain way and then later saying it was her idea and why didn't he tell her it looked weird. Oh wait, ya when she said that the "grew apart" and forgot the part about her having and affair when Lisa was 3 months old? Oh you mean how she still says that they had such a "special relationship" when he was in the Army when actually he was involved with three other women while there and going to the clubs? Or maybe it was when she said that she's trying to preserve his legacy while allowing Bobble Head and Mickey Mouse Elvis's to be sold. Yeh right.

Missy, I said that after reading her book, I didn't agree that "she said aweful things about him". I never said that her word was gospel either. As far as her perserving his legacy, by her taking Graceland and making it place for his fans to go, getting it out of debt, taking legal action to get Col. Parker out of the picture and have the law changed so that Elvis, as a deceased person, was still an 'entity' - I don't understand how you can be so angry with me.

We each state what we feel is an opinion based on what information is out there. You stated yourself in the last post that some of your 'facts' are based on others assumptions.

So, with that said, I read her book and I didn't find anything nasty about it!!

[MissyM]

You don't think her saying Elvis forced her to have sex with him when he was angry is nasty?
I'm not mad at anyone. I just don't get what some people say. I find it extremely frustrating. You people want insiders on here and then when they try to give info and insite it isn't believed anyway. Why would anyone even try. I ask myself that constantly. I'm sorry I do not feel about Graceland the way the fans do. I can't. And it will be a cold day before I ever think she did it for Lisa or to preserve his legacy.

[MissyM]

Yeh well I don't care for what Lisa has done either. And you know it is on the table the sale of the rest. But Soden is embroiled in a few million dollar law suites. We'll just see if she sells the rest and what is said then.

[cameron]

Missy, I said that after reading her book, I didn't agree that "she said aweful things about him". I never said that her word was gospel either. As far as her perserving his legacy, by her taking Graceland and making it place for his fans to go, getting it out of debt, taking legal action to get Col. Parker out of the picture and have the law changed so that Elvis, as a deceased person, was still an 'entity' - I don't understand how you can be so angry with me.

We each state what we feel is an opinion based on what information is out there. You stated yourself in the last post that some of your 'facts' are based on others assumptions.

So, with that said, I read her book and I didn't find anything nasty about it!!

I read her book too! I didn't think she said anything bad about him either !
She could have said much worse if everything some of his "friends" have said is true ! From what I've read other places; Lisa had trouble with all the crap put out by the MM about her dad , NOT her moms book !
IMO,Cilla did NOT white wash herself , but took her share of the blame .
There's many women who've said their husbands raped them !

FYI; It is against the law now .It goes along with "wife beating." Shouldn't make any difference ,married or not ! I never thought it was nasty .:blink: It's just used as a control factor and the law can put you in jail for that .

{I never have been a Cilla fan, but have defended her more here than I ever thought possible ! }

[utmom2008]

Rosanne, You are too funny!!!! You should be writing scripts for some of those late night shows or maybe you should be hosting your own. The Rosanne Show. Heeeeerrrrrrreeees Rosie!! That was suppose to be my Johnny Carson intro....

I knew the K teacher in you would like that title.:lol:;)

[utmom2008]

You don't think her saying Elvis forced her to have sex with him when he was angry is nasty?
I find it extremely frustrating. You people want insiders on here and then when they try to give info and insite it isn't believed anyway. Why would anyone even try. I ask myself that constantly. I'm sorry I do not feel about Graceland the way the fans do. I can't. And it will be a cold day before I ever think she did it for Lisa or to preserve his legacy.



There's many women who've said their husbands raped them !

FYI; It is against the law now .It goes along with "wife beating." Shouldn't make any difference ,married or not !

Pris just needed to find a story...then stick with it. The first half of the book is about how she begged him to "consummate" their relationship. Then the next thing ya know...BOOM...he's raping her. I thought some of the things she told were horrible..true or not. I sure would not want my daughter to read things like that about her father.:blink:(n)

[presley31]

I read her book too! I didn't think she said anything bad about him either !
She could have said much worse if everything some of his "friends" have said is true ! From what I've read other places; Lisa had trouble with all the crap put out by the MM about her dad , NOT her moms book !
IMO,Cilla did NOT white wash herself , but took her share of the blame .
There's many women who've said their husbands raped them !

FYI; It is against the law now .It goes along with "wife beating." Shouldn't make any difference ,married or not ! I never thought it was nasty .:blink: It's just used as a control factor and the law can put you in jail for that .

{I never have been a Cilla fan, but have defended her more here than I ever thought possible ! }

I agree cameron about the book(y)(y)

[Unchained Melody]

This is very interesting discussion.

As for believing what the MM says is true or not, well after watching All The Kings Men 3 DVD Set tonight theres no doubt in my mind they loved Elvis and fans simply can't accept what they have to say. Some of them that is. What I find amusing is people will believe what Wanda june Hill says and the stories she comes up with, but always will insist what the MM says is lies.:blink::doh:

That's practical now isn't it.(n)

[presley31]

This is very interesting discussion.

As for believing what the MM says is true or not, well after watching All The Kings Men 3 DVD Set tonight theres no doubt in my mind they loved Elvis and fans simply can't accept what they have to say. Some of them that is. What I find amusing is people will believe what Wanda june Hill says and the stories she comes up with, but always will insist what the MM says is lies.:blink::doh:

That's practical now isn't it.(n)

I made this thread for the people to post the lies they said that were in the book, but so far nobody has came forward;)

[ehollier]

You don't think her saying Elvis forced her to have sex with him when he was angry is nasty?
I'm not mad at anyone. I just don't get what some people say. I find it extremely frustrating. You people want insiders on here and then when they try to give info and insite it isn't believed anyway. Why would anyone even try. I ask myself that constantly. I'm sorry I do not feel about Graceland the way the fans do. I can't. And it will be a cold day before I ever think she did it for Lisa or to preserve his legacy.

I do think that her admitting that Elvis forced her to have sex is not the nicest thing I've heard about him; however, that was one page of her book. She doesn't spare complements about his generosity, humor, love, beliefs. I don't think she set out to write about that would say that she agreed with everything he did or believed. She did paint a balanced picture of him.

[utmom2008]

I made this thread for the people to post the lies they said that were in the book, but so far nobody has came forward;)

67 posts later I beg to differ...;);)

[presley31]

67 posts later I beg to differ...;);)

ok where are the lies that everyone keeps saying that the memphis mafia has said time and time again?? I put my examples in where is everyone elses?

[Unchained Melody]

ok where are the lies that everyone keeps saying that the memphis mafia has said time and time again?? I put my examples in where is everyone elses?

I've noticed the same thing, we never see examples!!

[cameron]

This is very interesting discussion.

As for believing what the MM says is true or not, well after watching All The Kings Men 3 DVD Set tonight theres no doubt in my mind they loved Elvis and fans simply can't accept what they have to say. Some of them that is. What I find amusing is people will believe what Wanda june Hill says and the stories she comes up with, but always will insist what the MM says is lies.:blink::doh:

That's practical now isn't it.(n)
I've not seen that anyone thought the MM was lying as such!
Most are just complaining because "friends" made money off of Elvis telling things they should have kept their mouth shut about !
IMO, we fans have a right to complain and hold them accountable !
So glad we amuse you ! Maybe you can chuckle yourself to sleep !

[Unchained Melody]

I've not seen that anyone thought the MM was lying as such!
Most are just complaining because "friends" made money off of Elvis telling things they should have kept their mouth shut about !
IMO, we fans have a right to complain and hold them accountable !
So glad we amuse you ! Maybe you can chuckle yourself to sleep !

It also amuses me at how YOU my friend are the one always complaining about people making personal attacks on you, that's what it looks like you've just done to me.

And who are you to say they should have kept their mouths shut, from what we've heard they hardly made any money from Elvis if they were their for just the money they wouldn't have stayed, as they all have said before on All The Kings Men. They have a right to tell their story JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM.

Of course hold them accountable, not Elvis ......righttt ;)

[cameron]

It also amuses me at how YOU my friend are the one always complaining about people making personal attacks on you, that's what it looks like you've just done to me.

And who are you to say they should have kept their mouths shut, from what we've heard they hardly made any money from Elvis if they were their for just the money they wouldn't have stayed, as they all have said before on All The Kings Men. They have a right to tell their story JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM.

Of course hold them accountable, not Elvis ......righttt ;)
I definitly will and I do ! I can say what I think a friend would or would not do! They whine; but they got anything they wanted! Elvis saw to that !
I have no problem with them telling their story . They have no right to tell any other mans story !

[Unchained Melody]

They have no right to tell any other mans story !

Ok then. Stop whining....If you don't like what they have to say, don't read their stuff. Simple as that really.;)

The key factor is, they were there, you or no one else was ;)

[cameron]

Ok then. Stop whining....If you don't like what they have to say, don't read their stuff. Simple as that really.;)

The key factor is, they were there, you or no one else was ;)
Neither were you or were you ? I think I know you !
May you be blessed with as good a friends as they are ! :lmfao::lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

Neither were you or were you ? I think I know you !
May you be blessed with as good a friends as they are ! :lmfao::lmfao:

It's not about being blessed with friends like them, as they weren't friends with you and you or I or anyone else for that matter don't know the pressure they were under or the reasons for the things they have done, so we should'nt be quick to judge them like many do. jmo.

[cameron]

---don't know the pressure they were under

or the reasons for the things they have done,



so we should'nt be quick to judge them like many do. jmo.

I feel really sorry for them !
Maybe they could have paid for all the lawsuits they incurred ? .{just a thought }
I do not judge quickly; it's been over 30 years and still they go on !

I can only hope some are blessed with such friends . Only then will they understand !

[Unchained Melody]

I feel really sorry for them !
Maybe they could have paid for all the lawsuits they incurred ? .{just a thought }
I do not judge quickly; it's been over 30 years and still they go on !

I can only hope some are blessed with such friends . Only then will they understand !

I am not sure on how to take this. Only then they will understand what. They tried to help the man as much as they could, what would you have them do. Ever time they tried to talk to ELVIS about it HE would bring a gun out on them or fire them. Seriously, its time to stop dissing all of Elvis' junk on the MM and lay it on him as well and know that it wasn't all their fault. If they were leeches etc as many say then that don't say alot for Elvis for keeping them around and not getting rid of them now does it..Here's one more thing I learned today from watching All The Kings Men, when Elvis fired Red, Sonny and Dave in July of 1976, he also was going to get rid of Dick Grobb and Lamar Fike. Reasoning for Lamar Elvis said it was because he was another one of them that was always telling him what he should or shouldnt do and he didn't want to hear it anymore. So obviously Elvis was a man in deep denial and didn't want no ones help.

[utmom2008]

I have one last observation and then I'm calling it a night. Obviously there are those here who love the MM, there are just as many that don't. What I don't get is how so many "devoted Elvis followers" are quick to put him down so that they can defend the MM. Why come to an Elvis MB and spend so much time "dissing" the man himself? The one man who can in no way, shape or form offer any kind of a rebuttal. It's interesting to sit back and watch. I had a friend reading over alot of this earlier who is totally impartial to the entire Elvis scene. Her comment was...."jeez, alot of these people sure don't appear to care for much for Elvis, do they"?:hmm::doh::hmm::doh:

[Unchained Melody]

Imo atleast, its not a matter of not caring for Elvis, it simply comes down to accepting he had fults, and not blaming them on everyone else. The pressure the man was under must have been incredible....

[Getlo]

I just can't believe in that story about Elvis not wanting sex with Priscilla because she had a baby. Their marriage was already in trouble and I think she just couldn't handle the thought that he just didn't want "her".

No.

Look at his reverence for his mother. He associated motherhood with sainthood. He adored his mother, and associated all mothers with her on some level.

Once a woman had given birth, in Elvis' eyes she was almost sacred and therefore off limits.

[Getlo]

You don't think her saying Elvis forced her to have sex with him when he was angry is nasty?

Maybe.

But Elvis forcibly having his way with Cilla certainly was!

[Unchained Melody]

No.

Look at his reverence for his mother. He associated motherhood with sainthood. He adored his mother, and associated all mothers with her on some level.

Once a woman had given birth, in Elvis' eyes she was almost sacred and therefore off limits.

And it when you think about it, it explains why his marriage with Priscilla went down hill so quickly after the birhth of Lisa. Well it was one of the many reasons I should say, certainly not the main reason, or the only one for that matter.

[Getlo]

I've not seen that anyone thought the MM was lying as such!

Oh, come off it! :angry:

You're the first one to spout off slamming the MM for their "untruths" as you call them!!

[Unchained Melody]

Maybe.

But Elvis forcibly having his way with Cilla certainly was!

I agree Getlo !

I've heard this story more than once from different individuals like some from the MM etc.

It definitley was sick that Elvis forced her to have sex with him when he was angry.

I watched the dvd All The Kings Men today and they were talking about that incident about how Priscilla come down stairs and her face was flushed and red, and she was crying, and she told someone "he just took me up there" or something along the lines...and supposedly when it happened Elvis knew about her affair with Stone or something and was saying can he do it like this, does he do it like that. Was very sad to hear :supriced:

[Unchained Melody]

Oh, come off it! :angry:

You're the first one to spout off slamming the MM for their "untruths" as you call them!!

So true, so true..................

[TotallyInsane]

I would like to hear more about the "rest of the stuff" being for sale!! But, probably it wouldn't do me any good to read about it cause I'm simply not going to believe it until it happens. Sorry Missy, I like you, but I do know that familys bicker back and forth and the gossip almost burns up the phone lines. I know, I have a family too - and most of the time the lines are burning up about me!!!! I know you guys will find this so hard to believe but I'm not very well liked by my siblings cause I call 'em on the carpet for things they've said or done....they just don't like how I handle things.
Missy - maybe there are family members that do the same to Lisa?????

[Merry]

As the saying goes, "Jealousy is a curse".

[Unchained Melody]

As the saying goes, "Jealousy is a curse".

I'm confused :blush: *sigh*

Who is jealous ? :hmm:

[Merry]

Hello!

I was referring to bickering within families, as Gail was talking about. I wouldn't be surprised, in my opinion, if there are people jealous of Lisa.

Kim

[MissyM]

Totally, maybe you have a misconception. There was no bickering going on about Elvis. To tell you the truth, what went on in Elvis's life was not a big deal at all and not talked about constantly. It's not like it is here. People knew things, had opinions that every once in a while talked about in a conversation.(if it pertained to the subject matter) Nothing more or less. It's strange because the things I was told, I took with a grain of salt at the time. Even when someone told me, "You just wait, that Goldigger Priscilla will take Elvis to the cleaners one day.", I just thought ok we'll see. And funny because this was coming from my MIL who really didn't care for Elvis like some of the others did. But she sure didn't dislike him either. She also told me that Aunt Delter was a spitfire (she liked her) Minnie a sweetheart, and Gladys drank to much later but she thought a lot of her. Now such things were told me before any of it was news or a big deal. And ya know what, every thing MIL told me was right and came to pass. And her opinion about others proved to be right on the mark. So why would I question her judgement. She thought the world of Billy, Jo and kids. Said Billy was honest as the day is long and Jo, outspoken but one women she respected so much. FIL adored Elvis and thought he worked hard for his money and paid a great price for it. He knew Elvis had grown in his singing and playing and was very proud of him as an entertainer and man. My FIL was a man with a heart of gold. And Aunt Lorraine, who was as sweet as can be and adored Elvis wouldn't say a bad thing about Cilla out of repect for Elvis. But yes could get upset with Elvis at times because of the stress her son was under working for Elvis. It's a mother thing. (I won't give my source for the pregnancy) It is was hushed and I see no reason to throw anyone under the bus (after this long) because I simply don't care enough to do that. (so people have the right to take it or leave it)
And with all I say, remember I have no dog in this fight, I was never this huge ga ga fan. And neither was anyone else. Matter of fact most were neither pro or con Elvis or the MM. (except for Billy) They really didn't care enough. Not like you all do. So I'd say from my point of veiw I got a pretty impartial veiw long before it was a debate. Were some a bit jealous, yeh, but the thing is, that didn't enter into their opinion of the situations. Because if it bothered them that much, I think they would have talked about it more and their opinions be against Elvis with all they said, but it wasn't like that. And although MIL was not always favorable in her actions and words for Elvis, she still thought he didn't deserve what Cilla did to him. So if you want to assume that it was a topic that was heated or a big deal, you are wrong. And after Elvis died, it pretty much wasn't talked about at all for years. Those opinions I have are my opinions and my feelings only. We were sad for the one's close to Elvis, sad that his life ended the way it did. Period and never an unkind word was said about him after he died. And nothing about Priscilla either.

[cameron]

Oh, come off it! :angry:

You're the first one to spout off slamming the MM for their "untruths" as you call them!!

I'm the first one complaining about the MM not getting their stories straight !
They don't agree on very much of anything ---unless they tell it ! They even fight amongst themselves !That's the "untruths" I see ! Plus, they were in the wrong saying anything about their "friend" ! I wish you such "friends" too ! ;)

[MissyM]

So Cameron, you really expected them so never say a word about Elvis ever? To anyone? Wow, since they have been used as the source time and time again, what would we all do had they not. Oh, I guess life would have been great and we all could just believe what Cilla had to say and be left thinking Elvis was who she said he was and did what she said he did. This is Elvis we are talking about. I think you may be somewhat unrealistic.

[MissyM]

Beleive, can you name your sources on all of those things you said. You know I've read some books and it seems that is "your" interperation of their words.

[cameron]

Hello!

I was referring to bickering within families, as Gail was talking about. I wouldn't be surprised, in my opinion, if there are people jealous of Lisa.

Kim

IMO, it's always been a jealousy issue ! Right from the very beginning.
It would have driven me crazy ! Some of my family have tried that with me .
I shut them up pretty fast ! I'm like Gail in that ,I tell mine what I think ! Sometimes, that diesn't make me too popular either . :D
Oh well!! IF they talk about me; it just gives others a rest ! :lol:

[Getlo]

Let's see:
didn't love his daughter, thought of her as a trophy - possible in the "having a daughter" sense. And NO ONE - not even the MM - said he didn't love Lisa! There is no doubt whatsoever that he did.
sick rapist - Don't know about "sick", but if the story is true about what he did to Cilla, then yes, he fits the category of "rapist".
drug addict - Absolutely true.
cheap (not paying MM well) - True. His staff deserved more money.
smelled - True, at times. Many people have said this.
lousy lover - Quite possible. Why do people assume he'd be a good lay?
pedophile - If he was having any sexual relations with Cilla before she was of age (which he was) then this is technically true.
unable to make own decisions - True for a lot of the time.
arrogant - Occasionally.
ovewrweight slob - Every picture tells a story.
unfaithful - Absolutely true.


Gee, I wonder who this could be? ;) Keep believing!

[cameron]

Let's see:
didn't love his daughter, thought of her as a trophy
sick rapist
drug addict
cheap (not paying MM well)
smelled
lousy lover
pedophile
unable to make own decisions
arrogant
ovewrweight slob
unfaithful
These, to name a few from friends, fans and family. Why wouldn't a guy be happy? Couldn't imagine why.
I've read these things too. "Reported" by "friends and family" !

[Getlo]

Getlo just said the thing about sick rapist. So, don't turn it around on me.

Remember, I qualified it with "but if the story is true about what he did to Cilla"

[cameron]

So Cameron, you really expected them so never say a word about Elvis ever? To anyone? Wow, since they have been used as the source time and time again, what would we all do had they not. Oh, I guess life would have been great and we all could just believe what Cilla had to say and be left thinking Elvis was who she said he was and did what she said he did. This is Elvis we are talking about. I think you may be somewhat unrealistic.

While we can blame Elvis for being loyal to his "family and friends".
No one could accuse them of the same !
I believe everything would have come out eventually .Unrealistic? Maybe.I just consider his private life none of our business ! IMO, had circumstances been reversed; Elvis would have raised hell if anyone had done the same to them !

[jak]

"While we can blame Elvis for being loyal to his "family and friends".

Elvis wasnt always loyal.It works both ways.

[Getlo]

While we can blame Elvis for being loyal to his "family and friends". No one could accuse them of the same !


So, you dismiss Red's and Sonny's years of almost blind devotion and loyalty just because of the last few months and the falling out between them and Elvis?

And again, you cannot state that anything they revealed in their books or interviews were lies.

[Getlo]

But I know things, just can't say how.

Oh, another one who "knows things" but can't say how.

Great. Just what we need. :rolleyes:

If you can't - or won't - say what your connection, if any ;), with Elvis is, then your information is simply unproven hearsay, and will only add to the muddy confusion as evidenced here in many of these threads.

[cameron]

So, you dismiss Red's and Sonny's years of almost blind devotion and loyalty just because of the last few months and the falling out between them and Elvis?

And again, you cannot state that anything they revealed in their books or interviews were lies.
Red and Sonny dismissed their friendship ; I didn't !
I don't care if what they said was truth or exaggeration ! It was uncalled for IMO !
Again, I can only wish such friends to all ! It's the only way this can be understood !

[Unchained Melody]

[/b]
Red and Sonny dismissed their friendship ; I didn't !


Hey cam buddy here's a thought. Maybe ELVIS was the one who dismissed their friendship and didn't notice because he was to doped on on the drugs he was taking and didn't care what no one thought or had to say because he was Elvis Presley and he sat on throne and he got what he wanted, when he wanted it.;)

Goodness I'm so sick and tired of he and she did it..and never Elvis. Great way to wake up reading such things again and again.:blink:

[Unchained Melody]

Gee, I wonder who this could be? ;) Keep believing!

I know right their getting pretty clever :P:lol::lol:

[cameron]

Hey cam buddy here's a thought. Maybe ELVIS was the one who dismissed their friendship and didn't notice because he was to doped on on the drugs he was taking and didn't care what no one thought or had to say because he was Elvis Presley and he sat on throne and he got what he wanted, when he wanted it.;)

Goodness I'm so sick and tired of he and she did it..and never Elvis. Great way to wake up reading such things again and again.:blink:

You can believe, IF Elvis was so "out of it", so too were his followers !
How realistic is it to think they remember anything ?

This will always go on as everyone adds to it ! Including yourself !;)

[TotallyInsane]

Oh, another one who "knows things" but can't say how.

Great. Just what we need. :rolleyes:

If you can't - or won't - say what your connection, if any ;), with Elvis is, then your information is simply unproven hearsay, and will only add to the muddy confusion as evidenced here in many of these threads.

Not real sure how "hearsay" can ever be proven? Can anyone help me understand this? Not sure how Getlo's Elvis connection could be anything other than years of passed down hearsay?????

[utmom2008]

lousy lover
Performance is in the eye of the beholder.;)Ask 10 women about one guy's bedroom performance and you will get 10 different versions. Ask the man....you will probably get one.I was a beast..left her wanting more.;) Makes me think of the scene from WHEN HARRY MET SALLY.;):lmfao::lmfao::notworthy

[TotallyInsane]

Well, there better not be 10 women to even ask about my husband!!! If there is - he won't have to worry about eatting tomatoes any longer!!!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Well, there better not be 10 women to even ask about my husband!!! If there is - he won't have to worry about eatting tomatoes any longer!!!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Poor Tim..:sad: Now you won't let him talk about his past..back when he was a Casanova.:lmfao::lmfao:

[jak]

"Ask the man....you will probably get one.I was a beast..left her wanting more"

That's the way it's always been in my case.But that's just me of course.I know it's not like that for everybody.

[ehollier]

"Ask the man....you will probably get one.I was a beast..left her wanting more"

That's the way it's always been in my case.But that's just me of course.I know it's not like that for everybody.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:: lmfao:

[utmom2008]

"Ask the man....you will probably get one.I was a beast..left her wanting more"

That's the way it's always been in my case.But that's just me of course.I know it's not like that for everybody.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

I have missed you Jak!!!!!

[Getlo]

Not real sure how "hearsay" can ever be proven? Can anyone help me understand this? Not sure how Getlo's Elvis connection could be anything other than years of passed down hearsay?????

Perhaps "unproven hearsay" is redundant. I should have perhaps said Believe's so far unuttered claims to be "connected" are simply "unproven" as yet.

And when did I ever say I had an Elvis connection?

Here's a hint: Never.

[jak]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

I have missed you Jak!!!!!

I do like to launch the occassional "zinger" from time to time.Im easily amused.

[TotallyInsane]

Perhaps "unproven hearsay" is redundant. I should have perhaps said Believe's so far unuttered claims to be "connected" are simply "unproven" as yet.

And when did I ever say I had an Elvis connection?

Here's a hint: Never.

No, you're right you never said it. Some things are just worded to make people believe there's more to it than it was. I guess I let the cat out of the bag with this, huh?

[Merry]

Not real sure how "hearsay" can ever be proven? Can anyone help me understand this? Not sure how Getlo's Elvis connection could be anything other than years of passed down hearsay?????



Beautifully stated!

:hug:

[MissyM]

Heresay can't be proven 100 percent, but circumstantial evidence (putting two and two togeather) make it more plausable.

[TotallyInsane]

Yes, that's true!! However, there are some fans who can add 2 & 2 too!!!

[Merry]

Well, there better not be 10 women to even ask about my husband!!! If there is - he won't have to worry about eatting tomatoes any longer!!!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


LOL.

So much of the green eyed monster around, how people are jealous, when it comes to Elvis. Lots of them, Gail, are on message boards, as we all read. It's so good to have you here. I love your sense of humour.

Lousy lover and all those other horrible adjectives don't describe Elvis, hehe........ just the opposite. It's jealousy, pure and simple, and people who don't have enough in their lives, they project their lives onto Elvis, running him down, to build their self esteem. Quite sick.

[Diane]

And you are a master Jak.....love it. :lol:

Diane

[TotallyInsane]

Well, in my mind, he was the best lover to walk the face of this earth!!! Now, of course, this is strictly hearsay so nobody is expected to take it as the gospel. However, until the time comes when I do get to have sex with him - this will be my opinion!! In other words - until the end of time!!

Oh, and if you tell my hubby, then you can move in and fix his tomatoes for him!!!! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

LOL.


Lousy lover and all those other horrible adjectives don't describe Elvis, hehe........ just the opposite.

I wish I could say I knew for sure, one way or the other, but sadly...I don't. :sad::sad: However....it would be very satisfying to just lay there and look at him.:lmfao::lmfao:

[Merry]

Honestly, when some people say these negative things, have you watched them? Have you watched their body language, how they look at each other, or how they look away from the interviewer?

You know what I see, with some? (Never Billy).


24394


Honestly, I don't know why people don't see through it. If someone has something negative to say, especially when they say they were such wonderful friends with Elvis. One needs to think "what is their motive for saying this?"

Luckily, most people are wise, and can see through the money making, jealous schemes that have been launched by some to muddy Elvis' name in the name of their wanting to be famous and make money.

His name doesn't deserve to be in the mud, and we know it. I'm not perfect, most people who have lived a good life, aren't. It's so easy to see that "they" say negative things because they need the sensationalism for their own gain. Who can trust someone like that? Trust what they say? In reality, no-one, you can't.

[Merry]

I wish I could say I knew for sure, one way or the other, but sadly...I don't. :sad::sad: However....it would be very satisfying to just lay there and look at him.:lmfao::lmfao:


It will be fun to do a little more than lay there, hehe :D :lmfao:

[utmom2008]

It will be fun to do a little more than lay there, hehe :D :lmfao:

I just figured from that statement on every one could add their own details and thoughts!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

I just figured from that statement on every one could add their own details and thoughts!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

I wish I could take part in this one, but I don't want to get banned!!!!!!! You understand, huh??

[Merry]

I just figured from that statement on every one could add their own details and thoughts!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Yes! lol :hug:for Elvis.

:D

[Merry]

I wish I could take part in this one, but I don't want to get banned!!!!!!! You understand, huh??



Yes, we couldn't expand now could we? lol

[jak]

[QUOTE=TotallyInsane;220057]Well, in my mind, he was the best lover to walk the face of this earth!!!

Are we still talking about me or Elvis?

[ehollier]

[quote=TotallyInsane;220057]Well, in my mind, he was the best lover to walk the face of this earth!!!

Are we still talking about me or Elvis?

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:: lmfao:

[jak]

[quote=jak;220077]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:: lmfao:

I really should keep my mind out of the gutter but sometimes I cant help it.

[Diane]

Yeah but do you have to drag mine there too?:lol:

Diane

[presley31]

Good laugh is always needed for threads, so thanks to you all.

[jak]

Yeah but do you have to drag ours there too?:lol:

Diane

We are all in this together!

[Diane]

Wooohooo Jak........yes we are, in good times and bad. :) This site takes me back to growing up in my little home town.:)

Diane

[utmom2008]

[QUOTE=TotallyInsane;220057]Well, in my mind, he was the best lover to walk the face of this earth!!!

Are we still talking about me or Elvis?

You Jak....ALWAYS you.;):lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Oh, and if you tell my hubby, then you can move in and fix his tomatoes for him!!!! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

At least some other woman would fix him an entree to go with his watermelon and tomato.:lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

We are all in this together!

Yes....a group of looney adults that spend their day discussing Elvis' sex life..and wondering if he was really as good at it as Jak claims to be.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[TotallyInsane]

[QUOTE=TotallyInsane;220057]Well, in my mind, he was the best lover to walk the face of this earth!!!

Are we still talking about me or Elvis?


LORDY LORDY - SOMEONE PLEASE COME GET ME UP OFF THE FLOOR!!!!!!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[jak]

Wooohooo Jak........yes we are, in good times and bad. :) This site takes me back to growing up in my little home town.:)

Diane

I guess i would be the "black sheep" of the town that nobody mentions then;)

[jak]

[QUOTE=jak;220077]

You Jak....ALWAYS you.;):lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Easy now.I dont wanna get a big head.Elvis probably did ok too.

[jak]

Yes....a group of looney adults that spend their day discussing Elvis' sex life..and wondering if he was really as good at it as Jak claims to be.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

What's so strange about that.Im sure Elvis was as proud as I am.

[ehollier]

[quote=utmom2008;220103]

Easy now.I dont wanna get a big head.Elvis probably did ok too.

I would like to think that Elvis didn't too bad for himself.....

[jak]

[QUOTE=jak;220077]


LORDY LORDY - SOMEONE PLEASE COME GET ME UP OFF THE FLOOR!!!!!!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

I guess you were probably talking about Elvis then?My mistake.

[jak]

[quote=jak;220136]

I would like to think that Elvis didn't too bad for himself.....

It's good to be the king.

[Diane]

Oh Lord Jak, yes you would have been mentioned but only in little clutches of girls talking about boys. The adults would have given you the disapproving "eye".:D Boy was my family good at that and I guess I've inherited it, so has my sister and both our daughters.....we've been told it's a "killing" look. :lol:

Diane

[presley31]

Oh Lord Jak, yes you would have been mentioned but only in little clutches of girls talking about boys. The adults would have given you the disapproving "eye".:D Boy was my family good at that and I guess I've inherited it, so has my sister and both our daughters.....we've been told it's a "killing" look. :lol:

Diane

Sure sounds like my hometown to diane, still get the look now and than:lol::lol:

[utmom2008]

[QUOTE=utmom2008;220103]

Easy now.I dont wanna get a big head.Elvis probably did ok too.


What's so strange about that.Im sure Elvis was as proud as I am.


[QUOTE=TotallyInsane;220106]

I guess you were probably talking about Elvis then?My mistake.


[QUOTE=ehollier;220139]

It's good to be the king.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
(y)(y):king::king:(y)(y)

[KPM]

I guess i would be the "black sheep" of the town that nobody mentions then;)
Gee thats the position I usually hold-so I guess we have a lot in common.:lol:

[Diane]

Why do we always like the "bad boys". :lol:

Diane

[TotallyInsane]

Why do we always like the "bad boys". :lol:

Diane

Cause they're soooooo much fun to work with!!!

[ksimms2]

OK...but here is my question to that. What about those of us who had C-Sections?:lol: I've had 2 babies in my stomach.....but only in my stomach.;);)

lol Rosanne! Boy...I sure missed alot while I was away - my favorite subject - the MM!! Woo-Hoo!!! (y)

[ksimms2]

Missy, I said that after reading her book, I didn't agree that "she said aweful things about him". I never said that her word was gospel either. As far as her perserving his legacy, by her taking Graceland and making it place for his fans to go, getting it out of debt, taking legal action to get Col. Parker out of the picture and have the law changed so that Elvis, as a deceased person, was still an 'entity' - I don't understand how you can be so angry with me.

We each state what we feel is an opinion based on what information is out there. You stated yourself in the last post that some of your 'facts' are based on others assumptions.

So, with that said, I read her book and I didn't find anything nasty about it!!

I do agree with you on the book - I saw the movie before I read the book- that movie was so horrible I swore I'd never read the book. My friend at work got it for me and I read it - quickly - because I couldn't put it down. The book was nothing like the movie - they over did that movie horribly.

[ksimms2]

I made this thread for the people to post the lies they said that were in the book, but so far nobody has came forward;)

I know I'm late getting in on this conversation - but Jen you and I have discussed this book in the past - and I quite liked it and will keep it. I enjoyed that book very much. I thought that Billy, Marty, Lamar (did I leave anyone out?) did a splendid job discussing the "days" with E. I am grateful they wrote it.

[ksimms2]

aahhh...it's great to be back on here.....tonight I've learned that
Jak is a great lover.....Elvis may or may not be.....but Rosanne and all the rest of us females would have just been happy to lay by his side and look at him....and other unmentionable things too!

The MM may or may not be lying. Getlo may or may not be an Elvis insider....and this "Believe" person has disappeared.....

Yep...great to be back!! I've missed you all so much!!

Rosanne and Gail - I saw your article in the Elvis Insider newsletter about your trip to Memphis - Congrats!!!!

[SweetCaroline]

LOL.

So much of the green eyed monster around, how people are jealous, when it comes to Elvis. Lots of them, Gail, are on message boards, as we all read. It's so good to have you here. I love your sense of humour.

Lousy lover and all those other horrible adjectives don't describe Elvis, hehe........ just the opposite. It's jealousy, pure and simple, and people who don't have enough in their lives, they project their lives onto Elvis, running him down, to build their self esteem. Quite sick.

I have agreed with you soooooooooo often....ever since I landed in this land of OZ.... (y)(y)(y)

[jak]

"tonight I've learned that
Jak is a great lover"


Finally something we all can agree on.It's about time.

[Merry]

I have agreed with you soooooooooo often....ever since I landed in this land of OZ.... (y)(y)(y)


Are us Aussies straight forward? lol

(((((((((Carole)))))))))

[utmom2008]

aahhh...it's great to be back on here.....tonight I've learned that
Jak is a great lover.....Elvis may or may not be.....but Rosanne and all the rest of us females would have just been happy to lay by his side and look at him....and other unmentionable things too!

The MM may or may not be lying. Getlo may or may not be an Elvis insider....and this "Believe" person has disappeared.....

Yep...great to be back!! I've missed you all so much!!

Rosanne and Gail - I saw your article in the Elvis Insider newsletter about your trip to Memphis - Congrats!!!!

This is so weird....I told Gail at 5 o'clock this afternoon that I needed to check on you.:supriced::supriced: You just can't imagine what all you have missed...you forgot to list periods and gestation times, and someone's cousin started her period the day of her wedding. Important..life-changing discussions!:lol::lol: Anyhoo.....WELCOME BACK!!!!(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

"tonight I've learned that
Jak is a great lover"


Finally something we all can agree on.It's about time.

Isn't it time for you to go and walk your dogs?? :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[TotallyInsane]

Well, I just hope my periods have never been discussed my family - LOL - but unfortunately, they've probably discussed everything on me from A to Z!!!!

[jak]

Well, I just hope my periods have never been discussed my family - LOL - but unfortunately, they've probably discussed everything on me from A to Z!!!!

This thread has certainly taken some interesting twists and turns.

[ksimms2]

This is so weird....I told Gail at 5 o'clock this afternoon that I needed to check on you.:supriced::supriced: You just can't imagine what all you have missed...you forgot to list periods and gestation times, and someone's cousin started her period the day of her wedding. Important..life-changing discussions!:lol::lol: Anyhoo.....WELCOME BACK!!!!(y)(y)

Thanks Rosanne, I'm okay. I told you guys about my BIL being in a coma and on life support. Well he died a couple of days after being removed - so his viewing and funeral were the 8th and 9th. Then on the 9th, on my way back to work from the funeral (yes I had to work) I got a phone call that my favorite cousin in Lakeland, FL (she's been in the hospital for a long time with Crohn's Disease) had died - they removed her from life support also. So this month has not been a good one.

I've missed everyone and the discussions.....I'll try and pop in every day and try and catch up!

[Diane]

I'm sorry to hear that you've had two deaths in the family Kelly. I hope you're doing all right. Nice to see you back.

Diane

[cameron]

Well, I just hope my periods have never been discussed my family - LOL - but unfortunately, they've probably discussed everything on me from A to Z!!!!

I'm sure a lot of things have been discussed in my family about me. ;) :lol:
I just ignore most of that stuff and try to keep up with who's alive and who died. That's enough info for me.

[ksimms2]

I'm sorry to hear that you've had two deaths in the family Kelly. I hope you're doing all right. Nice to see you back.

Diane

Thanks Diane....great to be back.....

[utmom2008]

This thread has certainly taken some interesting twists and turns.

Yes, it has. Partly due to your own admission that you are our resident Casanova.:lmfao::lmfao:

[KPM]

This thread has certainly taken some interesting twists and turns.
I'm still waiting for the names of "sources" for some of these interesting twists and turns.:lmfao::lmfao:

[Merry]

24405

:):):):):)

[jak]

Yes, it has. Partly due to your own admission that you are our resident Casanova.:lmfao::lmfao:

Yore not saying I led us into the gutter are you?Im as pure as the driven snow!

[utmom2008]

Yore not saying I led us into the gutter are you?Im as pure as the driven snow!

Well of course it wasn't you Jak...must have been some of your other Eagle scout friends.;):lmfao:;):lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

Yore not saying I led us into the gutter are you?Im as pure as the driven snow!

Your a funny individual Jak :lol:(y)

[jak]

Your a funny individual Jak :lol:(y)

Yore not the first person to say Im kinda "funny".

[Unchained Melody]

Yore not the first person to say Im kinda "funny".

I don't doubt that one bit buddy :P;)

[Diane]

:lol::lol::lol:The male ego tickles me no end!

Where do you come up with these pictures Jess? I had to print that one out...so degenerate and perfect for Casanova.:lol:(y).....and I loved the colours. I'm a sucker for animals, plants and colours.

Diane

[Genie]

I wrote this poem for Elvis many years ago, so those of you who know me and have been around as long as I have it is just another look...



From: ALADDIN137 (aladdin137@aol.com)
Subject: A Christmas Dream to All of the Elvis Fans


'Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house
Not a creature was smiling, especially the mouse
No fireplace burning, no tree and no snow
But it rained and it flooded the basement ya know.

We picked at our breakfast, had nothing for lunch
Made frowns on the gingerbread-men made to munch
The wind was a howling, reception was poor, I put on some Elvis, as a crisp
winter chill poured under the doors

With few gifts to give, at least none we could buy
A beautiful card made everyone cry, signed Elvis with love
Still Could not believe why?
We rested our chins on the telephone cord, singing Jingle Bells, Jingle bells,
ho-hum we're bored!

I fell off to sleep and heard a faint voice
Asking where would you be if you had the choice?
I can bet you by golly, if the lotto I won
I'd be off to Hawaii and have loads of fun!
Elvis was laughing, from a big Cadalac
Said "Hurry up honey, I gotta get back"

I awoke in a clamor my head in a spin
3 Cats on my bosom, 2 licking my chin
We all smelled a turkey, from where I can't say
And my beautiful dream, it just faded away

Then suddenly, faintly, the sight of a star
I ran to the window but didn't get far
My cats they all tripped me, to see what I heard
Was it a reindeer or was it a bird?

The image of Elvis waved from the cold...
smiling so brightly with presents in tow
Our eyes met, our hearts touched, I was filled with such glee
Presents from Elvis, from Heaven, for me.

~Aladdin(Genie);)

I also at this time wish to thank the many beautiful people who know me, and who do not. For their prayers and their incredible kindness while I fought to survive..without you I think I would have given uop, as the pain was more than I could bare.
You gave me insermountable strength, with your love, and for that I can never repay the blessings I have received. :cold:
God bless you and may you know that you have done for an Elvis fan, what Elvis would also do for a stranger.
Hugs to you you all and a very merry Christmas.
~Genie:newyear:


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[Genie]

May I take this moment of time to happily wish everyone a wonderful life, filled with miracles and magic and dreams that come true............I have had a full life, and Elvis has been in the very beginning of my worst in life. Of course also the best!
Three times now, his voice alone, has saved my life...
Doctors are amazed, this last episode (and no I don't even drink) of liver failure, I should not have survived...I know why I did...so do many of you...
I had you good people, with the love of Elvis flowing through your hearts, and into mine...keeping me going...I had a sweet little lady named Jess fighting for me everyday....I would not have minded that much going toward the light, to Elvis............but there is something yet to be done...so here I am..and may God richly bless you. Elvis I love you! Happy Birthday.
~Genie

[Genie]

Yes, I know that I have already wished Elvis a happy birthday. On the 7th, it is now the 8th and I am still awake. Trying to read a wonderfully beautiful book, by an incredible man.
I have temporaily forgotten my scars which look and feel as though I had an autopsy performed. I have forgotten the year, or that I have tired eyes, and the clock ticks away as I turn each page, in complete astonishment that there is indeed no coincidences in life...I have probably posted this poem in the years that I have stood as tall as 5 ft allows me, loving Elvis, defending him, getting myself in situations no one would care to leap into.
But, I barely know the present time. I have almost finished this beautiful book, and I thought My God..I wrote a poem in the 70's. Yes, I wrote a lot of poems, now and then for fun...and it reached my soul that I can connect deeply within this book I am reading and it amazes me. A meaning to what appears to everyone I have ever had read this poem, is "nice" but unexplainable rubbish.
I knew what it meant...I wonder if some of you might also?
~Sincerely,
Genie



"Swirls of Purple, Blue and Gold"

Swirls of Purple Blue and Gold
Entrance the mind, engulf the soul
Objects hang in mid suspension,
Reflecting life in three dimension.

Mirrors line the painted halls
Of scarlet blaze on opaque walls
Alabaster faces stare in awesome gloom,
Beneath the shimmering shadows
Of an incandescent moon.

Moods of distant sound synapse
In rhapsody and then collapse
Upon the flaming yellow haze,
Now captured in a crystal maze.

Swirls of Purple, Blue and Gold
Entrance the mind, engulf the soul
Objects hang in mid suspension,
Reflecting death in fifth dimension.

Written by, J. Arthur 1977
In dedication to Elvis Presley

[TotallyInsane]

Yes, I know that I have already wished Elvis a happy birthday. On the 7th, it is now the 8th and I am still awake. Trying to read a wonderfully beautiful book, by an incredible man.
I have temporaily forgotten my scars which look and feel as though I had an autopsy performed. I have forgotten the year, or that I have tired eyes, and the clock ticks away as I turn each page, in complete astonishment that there is indeed no coincidences in life...I have probably posted this poem in the years that I have stood as tall as 5 ft allows me, loving Elvis, defending him, getting myself in situations no one would care to leap into.
But, I barely know the present time. I have almost finished this beautiful book, and I thought My God..I wrote a poem in the 70's. Yes, I wrote a lot of poems, now and then for fun...and it reached my soul that I can connect deeply within this book I am reading and it amazes me. A meaning to what appears to everyone I have ever had read this poem, is "nice" but unexplainable rubbish.
I knew what it meant...I wonder if some of you might also?
~Sincerely,
Genie



"Swirls of Purple, Blue and Gold"

Swirls of Purple Blue and Gold
Entrance the mind, engulf the soul
Objects hang in mid suspension,
Reflecting life in three dimension.

Mirrors line the painted halls
Of scarlet blaze on opaque walls
Alabaster faces stare in awesome gloom,
Beneath the shimmering shadows
Of an incandescent moon.

Moods of distant sound synapse
In rhapsody and then collapse
Upon the flaming yellow haze,
Now captured in a crystal maze.

Swirls of Purple, Blue and Gold
Entrance the mind, engulf the soul
Objects hang in mid suspension,
Reflecting death in fifth dimension.

Written by, J. Arthur 1977
In dedication to Elvis Presley

Sorry Genie, but I don't have a clue what the poem means.

[dstrattenfan]

I saw on Youtube an interview with Priscilla from Australia, I believe, and the interviewer asks her directly if she and Elvis had sex after the birth of Lisa and she said YES. I watched it twice to make sure I heard it right! She spoke of him so sweetly! Yet she wrote such awful things about him in her book , and that Elvis and Me movie that was watched by so many people!! I will never forget going to work the next day and everyone talking about how awful Elvis was and how he raped her!! I was disgusted!! She has done so much damage to his image and now she is trying to patch it up! To think she let Lisa read that book!! I`d say Lisa turned out pretty good considering all she has had to cope with.

I think the reason Pris talks so "sweetly" about Elvis now is because she saw that fans were none too pleased about the unflattering way she wrote about him in her piece of crap book! I think she may have known it was a mistake.. One of the things that I found strange about her book was at the beginning it is dedicated to Lisa, now I don't know about her but I sure wouldn't wright a book like that if my husband were dead....I try not to even speak ill of my husband in the presence of my daughter.(n)..... Just my opinion

[MissyM]

Most poetry is subjective. Each person get out of it, something different at times. I love the poem. I get it, but it may not be the meaning the author intended.

DStratten, I like what you said. Husband and wife relationships seem more precious, children and parents as well. I think that is why some, even me at times take things more seriously.