Elvis: Up Close And Personal With Sonny West.

[presley31]

Due for release from Ryko Distribution on June 24, 2008 is the DVD "Elvis: Up Close and Personal with Sonny West".

The DVD has a running-time of 120 minutes.


2008/05/23 www.virginmega.com - www.elvisnews.com / www.epgold.com

[franny]

I wonder what Sonny will have on it...I hope there's some unseen footage in those 2 hours! (y)

Thanks, for sharing Jen. (y)

franny

[Jungleroom76]

Actually, I recently bought this DVD and it is basically a one man show where Sonny comes out in front of the audience and tells several stories about his time with Elvis.

Personally, I thought it was very well done....there were some GREAT stories including one where Elvis tried to call a taxi cab, which is HILARIOUS!!!! :lmfao:

Overall, I thought it was a very poignant DVD with some stories that I had never heard before. There is also a section where you see Sonny during a meet and greet after the show, along with quite a bit of backstage footage as he prepares for the show.

While the DVD is a little pricey, I personally thought it was well worth it! (y)

TCB!
Mike

[franny]

Thanks, for the info on it Mike! (y)

franny

[Unchained Melody]

(y)(y)Thanks for the review Mike Always liked Sonny West despite the EWH, i think he is a good peson.

[cameron]

I read his newest book. I still don't like him. :P

[Gary1]

I read his newest book. I still don't like him. :PI was going to say it makes good toilet paper but that's not strictly true because more s**t comes off the paper.

[utmom2008]

I was going to say it makes good toilet paper but that's not strictly true because more s**t comes off the paper.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[TotallyInsane]

I was going to say it makes good toilet paper but that's not strictly true because more s**t comes off the paper.

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!:lmfao::lmfao:

[President Presley]

Personally, I thought it was very well done....there were some GREAT stories including one where Elvis tried to call a taxi cab, which is HILARIOUS!!!! :lmfao:

Could you please tell us the "Elvis calls a cab story":notworthy

[Unchained Melody]

I was going to say it makes good toilet paper but that's not strictly true because more s**t comes off the paper.

Sorry but that there was funnny as crap !!:lol:

[TotallyInsane]

Sorry but that there was funnny as crap !!:lol:

Yeah, it twas!!!!!!:lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Could you please tell us the "Elvis calls a cab story":notworthy

I was going to ask you the same thing..:notworthy:king::notworthy

[Unchained Melody]

I was going to ask you the same thing..:notworthy:king::notworthy
And me as well !! Please share it with us !!(y)(y)(y)

[presley31]

I thought that was Jerry who elvis was with when he called the Taxi to take them to the hilton, but the taxi driver said that they were already there.

[President Presley]

I thought that was Jerry who elvis was with when he called the Taxi to take them to the hilton, but the taxi driver said that they were already there.

:lol: I read that story in Jerry's book; reminds me of me on holidays when I'm slightly drunk, standing in the elevator and pushing the first floor button, while I'm already on the first floor...:blink:

[utmom2008]

I thought that was Jerry who elvis was with when he called the Taxi to take them to the hilton, but the taxi driver said that they were already there.

Yes, it is, Jerry covers that story in his book. Sonny was not with them that night, so I'm curious to see if this is a new story.:doh::hmm::hmm:

[utmom2008]

:lol: I read that story in Jerry's book; reminds me of me on holidays when I'm slightly drunk, standing in the elevator and pushing the first floor button, while I'm already on the first floor...:blink:

I've done that before.....stone cold sober!:lmfao::lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

:lol: I read that story in Jerry's book; reminds me of me on holidays when I'm slightly drunk, standing in the elevator and pushing the first floor button, while I'm already on the first floor...:blink:

Yep I remember reading that in Jerry's book aswell...i've read the darn thing twice atleast i know (y)

[SweetCaroline]

I was going to say it makes good toilet paper but that's not strictly true because more s**t comes off the paper.

ROFL...:lol::lmfao::lol::lmfao::lol::lmfao: You made my day, Gary. (y)(y)(y)

[Tony Trout]

Personally, I thought it was very well done....there were some GREAT stories including one where Elvis tried to call a taxi cab, which is HILARIOUS!!!! :lmfao:


Could you please tell us the "Elvis calls a cab story":notworthy


I was going to ask you the same thing..:notworthy:king::notworthy


And me as well !! Please share it with us !!(y)(y)(y)


I thought that was Jerry who elvis was with when he called the Taxi to take them to the hilton, but the taxi driver said that they were already there.


Yes, it is, Jerry covers that story in his book. Sonny was not with them that night, so I'm curious to see if this is a new story.:doh::hmm::hmm:



It's a totally different story of what is in Jerry's book. They basically had gone out to get groceries but Elvis was still sleeping and Elvis woke up and none of the guys were there and he needed some things himself and he called a cab. Sonny and the rest of the guys arrived just as the cab pulled up to the gate.


And Mike? You are right. The DVD is very well done and respectfully done in regards to Elvis's memory. Say what you will, but Sonny truly loved Elvis and still does to this day. I wouldn't hesitate to shake his hand and thank him for sharing his recountings of his time with the greatest star of the 20th century---ELVIS AARON PRESLEY.

[Unchained Melody]

It's a totally different story of what is in Jerry's book. They basically had gone out to get groceries but Elvis was still sleeping and Elvis woke up and none of the guys were there and he needed some things himself and he called a cab. Sonny and the rest of the guys arrived just as the cab pulled up to the gate.

Bet Elvis was like where the H*** were you guys :lol::lol:
That would've been funny seeing Elvis' reaction (y) Thanks Tony for the story!!

[cameron]

I thought that was Jerry who elvis was with when he called the Taxi to take them to the hilton, but the taxi driver said that they were already there.

I thought Schillings was funnier . (y) I read both books ; Sonnys and Jerrys.
I'll never like the Wests.
Everyone can have their own opinion. So far ,it's a free world....mostly. :lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

And Mike? You are right. The DVD is very well done and respectfully done in regards to Elvis's memory. Say what you will, but Sonny truly loved Elvis and still does to this day. I wouldn't hesitate to shake his hand and thank him for sharing his recountings of his time with the greatest star of the 20th century---ELVIS AARON PRESLEY.

I'm right with you Tony(y)

[Jungleroom76]

Could you please tell us the "Elvis calls a cab story":notworthy

You will have to forgive me for not remembering all of the details, but basically Sonny tells the story like this:

Elvis was out in California and all of the guys were gone doing various errands, so when Elvis woke up, he was all alone in the house. Elvis decided he wanted to go somewhere (shopping I think) and since none of the guys were there, he decided to call a taxi. He couldn't find the number for one, and after trying to convince the phone operator who he was and what he wanted, they finally put him in touch with a cab company. Elvis then proceeded to ask for a cab to come and get him, but the guy from the cab company didn't believe that it was Elvis Presley on the phone. Elvis then spent the next few minutes trying to convince the guy that he was in fact Elvis Presley. The guy told Elvis he would send someone over but that he had better be there (thinking that it was a prank call).

When the cab arrived, the driver was calling Elvis' name and Elvis was standing on the other side of the fence telling the driver that he was there but according to Sonny, Elvis didn't know how to open the gate to the property to get out to the cab. Sonny said that it was just as the cab driver was getting ready to leave when he came back to the house and Elvis could hear Sonny questioning the driver as to why he was there. Sonny said that Elvis said something along the lines of "Sonny, open this g**d**n gate" and when Sonny opened the gate, the cab driver saw that it really was Elvis Presley! Although Elvis didn't need the cab anymore, he told Sonny to give him some money for coming out.

That is basically the story....as I said, I've only seen the DVD a couple of times so far, so I may have left something out or gotten something wrong with the story but this was basically the story he told.

Hope you guys enjoyed it! (y)

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

And Mike? You are right. The DVD is very well done and respectfully done in regards to Elvis's memory. Say what you will, but Sonny truly loved Elvis and still does to this day. I wouldn't hesitate to shake his hand and thank him for sharing his recountings of his time with the greatest star of the 20th century---ELVIS AARON PRESLEY.

I was on the fence about Sonny for the longest time, but I agree with you....after seeing the DVD, I have to agree that Sonny really did love Elvis and I would also enjoy talking to him and thanking him for his love and devotion to Elvis!

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

Oh My that was really funny...jsut imagine the frustration Elvis felt, first no one believed it was him when he tried to explain it to them and to top it off once he did convince them it was Elvis he couldn't get the dang gate open to get to the cab !! What a story thanks Mike!!(y)(y)

[Unchained Melody]

Hey by the way, what year did this take place :lol::lol::hmm:

[Jungleroom76]

Oh My that was really funny...jsut imagine the frustration Elvis felt, first no one believed it was him when he tried to explain it to them and to top it off once he did convince them it was Elvis he couldn't get the dang gate open to get to the cab !! What a story thanks Mike!!(y)(y)

You are very welcome!! :D

I can't remember the exact date, but it was during the 60's when Elvis was out filming one of his movies, I believe. :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

You are very welcome!! :D

I can't remember the exact date, but it was during the 60's when Elvis was out filming one of his movies, I believe. :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

Thanks for that Mike !! (y)(y)

[utmom2008]

I was on the fence about Sonny for the longest time, but I agree with you....after seeing the DVD, I have to agree that Sonny really did love Elvis and I would also enjoy talking to him and thanking him for his love and devotion to Elvis!

OK Mike..now I'M going to be watching YOU. I think the men in the white-coats may be coming after you to fit you for a straight-jacket!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[cameron]

[/u][/b]

OK Mike..now I'M going to be watching YOU. I think the men in the white-coats may be coming after you to fit you for a srtaight-jacket!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
I'm afraid Mike has fallen for the BS. :'(
Sonny's had 30 years to practice .

[Tony Trout]

I'm afraid Mike has fallen for the BS. :'(
Sonny's had 30 years to practice .



Some people just won't let go or forgive and forget, will they? I, for one, cannot understand the bitterness and absolute and uncalled for hatred that some people feel against the Wests' (and Dave Hebler) after so many years. How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job?? I'd be pretty PO'd, myself. If you don't think Sonny cared at all for Elvis, read the chapter where he describes his reaction upon hearing of Elvis's death.


I shall say nothing further.....







*sigh*

[SweetCaroline]

Oh, Mister T...I like you:hug:........but my opinion is so at the very other end of the spectrum from yours on this one!

[Unchained Melody]

Some people just won't let go or forgive and forget, will they? I, for one, cannot understand the bitterness and absolute and uncalled for hatred that some people feel against the Wests' (and Dave Hebler) after so many years. How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job?? I'd be pretty PO'd, myself. If you don't think Sonny cared at all for Elvis, read the chapter where he describes his reaction upon hearing of Elvis's death.


I shall say nothing further.....







*sigh*

I know exactly where your coming from buddy i cant grapse that either.(n)

[Unchained Melody]

I'm afraid Mike has fallen for the BS. :'(
Sonny's had 30 years to practice .

Come on now cameron, i respect your opinion (y)
but who are WE to sit here 30 YEARS LATER on a mb and say what
is BS and what isn't. i mean those guys were there THEY LIVED THE LIFE
WITH ELVIS. NOT US!!:hmm:

[The King's Queen]

Some people just won't let go or forgive and forget, will they? I, for one, cannot understand the bitterness and absolute and uncalled for hatred that some people feel against the Wests' (and Dave Hebler) after so many years. How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job?? I'd be pretty PO'd, myself. If you don't think Sonny cared at all for Elvis, read the chapter where he describes his reaction upon hearing of Elvis's death.


I shall say nothing further.....







*sigh*

Oh dear, dear, dear....:blink: I have to say that when it comes to the West boys and ol' Hebler, well, I just think that the "bitterness" and "hatred" are just deserves for the little tell-all book they did as a means of revenge. JMO...but I think that the mere fact that they turned on Elvis in such a way has permanently soiled them in the eyes of many of the fans. I sure don't "hate" them...but I have nothing for them either. I just think that the untimely death of Elvis kinda put a damper on what they had set out to do with that little book. They wanted to defame Elvis...put a halt to his fame...take away the admiration of the fans. But, when he died, it backfired on them! He INSTANTLY became more famous post-humous, and more adored in some ways! And the thought that these "friends" of Elvis' could turn on him at the very end of his life was an unforgiveable sin to many, many fans. (n)

And although you and I don't agree on this one, I still love ya....;):P(y)

[Unchained Melody]

Oh dear, dear, dear....:blink: I have to say that when it comes to the West boys and ol' Hebler, well, I just think that the "bitterness" and "hatred" are just deserves for the little tell-all book they did as a means of revenge. JMO...but I think that the mere fact that they turned on Elvis in such a way has permanently soiled them in the eyes of many of the fans. I sure don't "hate" them...but I have nothing for them either. I just think that the untimely death of Elvis kinda put a damper on what they had set out to do with that little book. They wanted to defame Elvis...put a halt to his fame...take away the admiration of the fans. But, when he died, it backfired on them! He INSTANTLY became more famous post-humous, and more adored in some ways! And the thought that these "friends" of Elvis' could turn on him at the very end of his life was an unforgiveable sin to many, many fans. (n)

And although you and I don't agree on this one, I still love ya....;):P(y)

They were trying to do the right thing, but went about doing it in a wrong way imo.

[Gary1]

Some people just won't let go or forgive and forget, will they? I, for one, cannot understand the bitterness and absolute and uncalled for hatred that some people feel against the Wests' (and Dave Hebler) after so many years. How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job?? I'd be pretty PO'd, myself. If you don't think Sonny cared at all for Elvis, read the chapter where he describes his reaction upon hearing of Elvis's death.


I shall say nothing further.....







*sigh*I'm sorry but Elvis went to his Grave knowing what these scumbags did to him.That must have it him really bad.I know if my friends of 20 odd years had done that to me i'd be devastated i bet Elvis was.And for that i can never forgive them (not that they want it anyway).(n)

[utmom2008]

Oh, Mister T...I like you:hug:........but my opinion is so at the very other end of the spectrum from yours on this one!

This is ALWAYS a hot topic, and something that's not going to change anytime soon. I have figured out this much though.....take a look at the age division. It seems that 99% of us that were of a decent age in 1977 can NOT stand them. By the same token....99% of those that were too young to read the book in 1977 or weren't born yet feel it's time to forgive and forget. Me??? I fall into the older crowd of course.:blink::blush::blink:

[TotallyInsane]

How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job??

This pretty much did happen to me - not fired - but forced out of a job after 18 years of service. Yeah, I was ticked at the witch that made me leave but guess what I did?? Instead of trying to cause her harm I went out and GOT ANOTHER JOB!! What a concept??? Got a job and handled my responsibilities without having to blame someone else for wanting to get rid of me!!! And, might I add, this happened when my husband was very ill and we didn't know if he was going to live or not! So, you're darn right I was ticked - after all I had a family to support too!!!!!!
Trying to do the right thing my buttocks!!!!

[utmom2008]

Trying to do the right thing my buttocks!!!!

You trying to mimic Forrest Gump today?:lmfao:

[cameron]

Some people just won't let go or forgive and forget, will they? I, for one, cannot understand the bitterness and absolute and uncalled for hatred that some people feel against the Wests' (and Dave Hebler) after so many years. How would any one here feel if they were unceremoniuously dumped from their jobs without a proper explanation as to why you were fired and only given three days notice and a weeks pay after 16-20 years on the job?? I'd be pretty PO'd, myself. If you don't think Sonny cared at all for Elvis, read the chapter where he describes his reaction upon hearing of Elvis's death.
I shall say nothing further.....
*sigh*

I've lost a couple of jobs ...actually, I got P.O.d, told them to stick it and quit !! I'm a grown man, no one should put up with any kind of BS no matter how long they have a job, IMO.
I've read Sonnys book. He's still a jacka** , blaming everyone but taking none of it for himself. I bet he was upset when he heard Elvis died as he knew he was in big trouble !! I have no sympathy for people like him.
Did he offer to pay any of Elvis' attorney fees for the lawsuits?

You have a right to your opinion; but so do I and everyone else .
Say whatever you like. I don't try to change anyones mind, I just give my own opinion. Just please don't try to "sell me" on the Wests.

[Diane]

Nawwww, the Wests had no excuse whatsoever in having that book written, not in my mind and not in the majority of the fans...revenge and money was the main reason.

Most of us have lost jobs for one reason or another and we all simply went out and found another. The Wests had it too good with Elvis and too much fun, not to mention too much protection from Elvis to act out as badly as they wanted to. No other employer would have put up with what they did.

[Merry]

I agree with Diane, whole heartedly.

With regard to other comments made in this thread. I find it hard to forgive when you love someone and want to protect them, especially with regard to the harm that was done. Especially, since Sonny runs down his best friend's daughter. That was icing on the cake for me. Sonny should be mature, not bitter and hard done by. He is also, very, very, practiced, at being interviewed, watch him.

Thing is with Sonny, is that I've watched an interview with him, I think it was with Shelly Powers. They taped the general chat with her, before the official interview. Sonny ran down people, trying to align himself with Shelly. I found that unnecessary, and immature.

He then went into his well practised and adjusted spiel. His stories are adjusted, (you say something three times, and it must be true) I know someone who was there for a major story, and he made it out to be something it wasn't, for a book. I'm not going into things, no point, we all have our opinions.

Sonny does love Elvis, true, but I don't find Sonny genuine, and that sets off warning bells, especially, the way he runs down others. That is telling to me, and because of what happened, I can't help being protective as this is someone's life story that is being changed, it isn't right. That is why I say things, and used to be asked to say things.

If my employee bashed the fans, etc., I'd fire him, too. This is all old, but Sonny knew that Elvis always changed his mind. Vernon always did the hiring and firing. That too comes from someone who was there.

[utmom2008]

You have a right to your opinion; but so do I and everyone else .
Say whatever you like. I don't try to change anyones mind, I just give my own opinion. Just please don't try to "sell me" on the Wests.


Nawwww, the Wests had no excuse whatsoever in having that book written, not in my mind and not in the majority of the fans...revenge and money was the main reason.


I agree with both of you, and here again it's all wrapped up in our ages. There is still a generation gap, I guess there always will be. I think that the younger people of today don't put as much emphasis on certain things like we did, such as morals. It doesn't seem like anything is a big deal. Much the way they enter into marriage with the attitude of oh well...if it doesn't work out we'll just get a divorce. It baffles me as to why no one seems to think that what the West's did was just plain ole' wrong.:doh::blush::blink:

[Diane]

Because there aren't many "wrongs" anymore Rosanne. People look after "number one" and don't care or respect anyone and as a result, not even themselves and don't even know it.

Some like the Wests were just ahead of their times in that respect...there were a few self-centered people then too....just not as widespread as it is today.

[utmom2008]

Because there aren't many "wrongs" anymore Rosanne. People look after "number one" and don't care or respect anyone and as a result, not even themselves and don't even know it.

Some like the Wests were just ahead of their times in that respect...there were a few self-centered people then too....just not as widespread as it is today.

You are right Diane...those are very valid points. My hubs is a teacher/coach...it's so interesting to hear him talk about the differences that keep coming along with each new set of teenagers.:blink::blink:

[Unchained Melody]

I think though with Elvis being a forgiven person he was would've forgave and forgot. He knew his world was turned upside down by this point, just imagine how he felt. It's sad to think about.

[Merry]

I agree with both of you, and here again it's all wrapped up in our ages. There is still a generation gap, I guess there always will be. I think that the younger people of today don't put as much emphasis on certain things like we did, such as morals. It doesn't seem like anything is a big deal. It baffles me as to why no one seems to think that what the West's did was just plain ole' wrong.:doh::blush::blink:


This is the best post I've read in gosh knows how long!


AGREED!

[presley31]

Nawwww, the Wests had no excuse whatsoever in having that book written, not in my mind and not in the majority of the fans...revenge and money was the main reason.

Most of us have lost jobs for one reason or another and we all simply went out and found another. The Wests had it too good with Elvis and too much fun, not to mention too much protection from Elvis to act out as badly as they wanted to. No other employer would have put up with what they did.

I agree Diane(y)(y) Such a shame to see people who say how much they love someone than write a book and put down theres friends daughter. I doubt very much elvis would be pleased with the things that have been written about him. I think his true friends were his fans, least we stand by him and never let him down no matter what happens.

[Diane]

That's what so sad Col.Jon Burrows. Elvis would have forgiven them, no question about it but THEY still haven't forgiven HIM.

[Lisarose]

I loved the cab story - both of them. Poor Elvis, he just 'gets no respect!'
:D :D

[presley31]

That's what so sad Col.Jon Burrows. Elvis would have forgiven them, no question about it but THEY still haven't forgiven HIM.

yep diane , thats the thing thats different with elvis and the boys is elvis had a heart that could forgive just about anything, but the guys who had it pretty good still can't get over things and move on.

[Unchained Melody]

It baffles me as to why no one seems to think that what the West's did was just plain ole' wrong.:doh::blush::blink:

But I said they tried to do the right thing, but went about doing it the wrong way ;)(y)

[Unchained Melody]

I loved the cab story - both of them. Poor Elvis, he just 'gets no respect!'
:D :D

I did too, got a good laugh out of that!!:lol:(y)

[Unchained Melody]

THEY still haven't forgiven HIM.

I don't think w are in any position to say whos forgiven who we don't know really....

[Jungleroom76]

[/u][/b]

OK Mike..now I'M going to be watching YOU. I think the men in the white-coats may be coming after you to fit you for a straight-jacket!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Forget it Rosanne....it's WAAAAAY too late for me now anyway!!! ;)

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

Forget it Rosanne....it's WAAAAAY too late for me now anyway!!! ;)

TCB!
Mike

Mike I love that GK avator of yours.
Very classy :lol:(y)

[KPM]

The sadness to me is that they were all good close friends. Red and Elvis back to high school. Anytime lives get so intertwined and close you are bound to see the relationships change. What had been fun-no longer always was, close buddies drifted into different roles and all that takes its toll on everyone. Power, jealousy, envy & greed are all human qualities which every person who ever lived possessed. Mistakes and human shortcomings are at play on all sides in every human encounter. (even superstars and their employees, relatives and friends)
If Elvis were still here he could counter their stories with his own and try to explain his action and deeds.
All of you who have talked to Sonny in person, or Red etc....many of you have found them sincere and believable but you have never had the chance to sit across from Elvis and ask him to rebute their accounts of what happened. Would we find him any less believable in his accounts? Would we find him any less sincere?

[Jungleroom76]

I'm afraid Mike has fallen for the BS. :'(
Sonny's had 30 years to practice .

In another post, Col. Jon Burrows states his opinion that the West's were trying to do the right thing, but went about it the wrong way and I think that is probably where my opinion lies on this matter as well. :hmm:

While I certainly don't think that writing ELVIS: WHAT HAPPENED was the way to go about things, I certainly can understand why they felt they needed to do that at the time....between losing their jobs the way they did and what Elvis was doing to himself, it was certainly a difficult situation all the way around. Am I condoning what the West's did? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! I certainly think there could have been a much better solution to the whole situation... :hmm:

And I really think that Sonny regrets what happened as a result of the book. So am I falling for the "BS" as cameron suggests? I guess that is up to everyone's opinion, but after watching the DVD, I do have to say that I truly think Sonny is sorry for what happened and that he really did (and still does to this day) love Elvis!

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

Mike I love that GK avator of yours.
Very classy :lol:(y)

THANKS COLONEL!!! :D

As I have said before in other threads (and yes I know it is slightly off topic here), as much as GK gets his stories confused from time to time and I think he gives himself a little too much credit for some of the things in Elvis' life, GK seems very genuine to me in his love for Elvis and I do enjoy listening to his show on Sunday nights on Sirius Satellite Radio! (y)

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

And I really think that Sonny regrets what happened as a result of the book. So am I falling for the "BS" as cameron suggests? I guess that is up to everyone's opinion, but after watching the DVD, I do have to say that I truly think Sonny is sorry for what happened and that he really did (and still does to this day) love Elvis!

Don't worry buddy i'm right there along side of ya on this matter;)

[TotallyInsane]

This was after Elvis died! Sorry but I don't see any love in Sunny's eyes or hear it in his voice!

qkWds8YuCAU

[Jungleroom76]

Don't worry buddy i'm right there along side of ya on this matter;)

Thanks pal!!! Obviously this is a hot button topic and everyone has a clear-cut opinion one way or the other on it, so I appreciate your support for our side!!! ;)

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

Thanks pal!!! Obviously this is a hot button topic and everyone has a clear-cut opinion one way or the other on it, so I appreciate your support for our side!!! ;)

TCB!
Mike

Anytime Bro (y)

By the way, have you gotten the latest Straight Arrow release Royal Gambit In Richfield, I got mine today buddy and its definitley an essential concert 1976 style !! As I know you like me are a big fan of the later years!!(y)(y)

[Jungleroom76]

Anytime Bro (y)

By the way, have you gotten the latest Straight Arrow release Royal Gambit In Richfield, I got mine today buddy and its definitley an essential concert 1976 style !! As I know you like me are a big fan of the later years!!(y)(y)

Nope, not yet....finances have been a little snug around here lately, but it is definitely on my MUST HAVE list!! ;)

TCB!
Mike

[Unchained Melody]

Nope, not yet....finances have been a little snug around here lately, but it is definitely on my MUST HAVE list!! ;)

TCB!
Mike
Please when you do get the chance to get it post your review on here I love reading your thoughts on these concerts from the later years which never get the respect they deserve IMO!!!(y)
And the thing that makes this one really special to me is its my first Import ever!!! :D :D

[cameron]

This was after Elvis died! Sorry but I don't see any love in Sunny's eyes or hear it in his voice!

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This is the interview I'll always remember ! IF one of my kids ever did this to one of their friends, I'd whip their *** !! They just weren't raised this way and I sure wasn't either ! Forgiveness is Gods department. I'll let Him decide, I'm just human and never saw they were sorry enough for me to forgive them.{ I also doubt they're losing any sleep over me not liking them ;) }

[Jungleroom76]

Please when you do get the chance to get it post your review on here I love reading your thoughts on these concerts from the later years which never get the respect they deserve IMO!!!(y)
And the thing that makes this one really special to me is its my first Import ever!!! :D :D

Will do Jon...and thanks for the kind words about my reviews! I am so glad you enjoy reading them!! :D

CONGRATULATIONS on receiving your first import CD....here's to MANY MORE for your collection!!! :cheers:

TCB!
Mike

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I agree with both of you, and here again it's all wrapped up in our ages. There is still a generation gap, I guess there always will be. I think that the younger people of today don't put as much emphasis on certain things like we did, such as morals. It doesn't seem like anything is a big deal. Much the way they enter into marriage with the attitude of oh well...if it doesn't work out we'll just get a divorce. It baffles me as to why no one seems to think that what the West's did was just plain ole' wrong.:doh::blush::blink:

I disagree with your sweeping statement. I am 39 years of age have been married to my wife for 12 years, we have been seeing each other for 18 years. I value my close friends and consider myself to have morals.

From experience I have learned that friends you grew up with can drift apart even after 20 years. Its sad but as time goes by you find that your hopes, dreams and aspirations change. Friends lives change, common interests change. On the other hand I have a friend of more than 20 years who I see frequently and love like a brother. I have a friend I have only known for 4 years who I would trust with my life implicitly.

Its too easy to generalize and perhaps a little elitist. We know what the West's did was wrong, however surely we should be a little more Christian in our attitudes. To err is human, to forgive devine.......

[Unchained Melody]

Will do Jon...and thanks for the kind words about my reviews! I am so glad you enjoy reading them!! :D

CONGRATULATIONS on receiving your first import CD....here's to MANY MORE for your collection!!! :cheers:

TCB!
Mike

Thanks Mike !! (y)

[franny]

I think when EWH was written, it was written out of anger and emotions were out of control! We can't judge, we were not in his shoes...I think Sonny regrets writing the book, but he can't take it back. People do make mistakes!

I believe Sonny loves Elvis! Elvis thought enough of Sonny, to have him around for 19 years, then that says a lot, as well. Just my opinion...

franny

[Unchained Melody]

I think when EWH was written, it was written out of anger and emotions were out of control! We can't judge, we were not in his shoes...I think Sonny regrets writing the book, but he can't take it back. People do make mistakes!

I believe Sonny loves Elvis! If Elvis thought enough of him, to have him around for 19 years, then that says a lot, as well. Just my opinion...

franny

I think thats alot of the reason as to why Red West isn't really in the public eye among Elvis fans as he probably regrets it now looking bad and I give him a thumbs up for that..if you listen to the phone conversation from ocotober 1976 he had with Elvis says it all really..

[cameron]

On the other hand I have a friend of more than 20 years who I see frequently and love like a brother. I have a friend I have only known for 4 years who I would trust with my life implicitly.
.....

I am not trying to be smart here . But, what if it was your friend you loved like a brother , or the one you'd trust with your life told all your dirty little secrets ? Then might you understand why some feel it was just too much from the Wests?
Perhaps not. But, I admit, I would not be that good at forgiving if someone did that to me. :'(
IMO, there would never have been as close a relationship as I imagined .

[utmom2008]

This was after Elvis died! Sorry but I don't see any love in Sunny's eyes or hear it in his voice!


I never could find it either Gail. Will you please let me know when you locate some of it???:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

This is ALWAYS a hot topic, and something that's not going to change anytime soon. I have figured out this much though.....take a look at the age division. It seems that 99% of us that were of a decent age in 1977 can NOT stand them. By the same token....99% of those that were too young to read the book in 1977 or weren't born yet feel it's time to forgive and forget. Me??? I fall into the older crowd of course.:blink::blush::blink:


I agree with both of you, and here again it's all wrapped up in our ages. There is still a generation gap, I guess there always will be. I think that the younger people of today don't put as much emphasis on certain things like we did, such as morals. It doesn't seem like anything is a big deal. Much the way they enter into marriage with the attitude of oh well...if it doesn't work out we'll just get a divorce. It baffles me as to why no one seems to think that what the West's did was just plain ole' wrong.:doh::blush::blink:


I disagree with your sweeping statement. I am 39 years of age have been married to my wife for 12 years, we have been seeing each other for 18 years. I value my close friends and consider myself to have morals.

From experience I have learned that friends you grew up with can drift apart even after 20 years. Its sad but as time goes by you find that your hopes, dreams and aspirations change. Friends lives change, common interests change. On the other hand I have a friend of more than 20 years who I see frequently and love like a brother. I have a friend I have only known for 4 years who I would trust with my life implicitly.

Its too easy to generalize and perhaps a little elitist. We know what the West's did was wrong, however surely we should be a little more Christian in our attitudes. To err is human, to forgive devine.......

I still stand by my original stance. IMO.....99% of the time our opinions on wether or not the West's were scumbags comes down to the age difference. Yes...I realize that friendships change through the years. I also know that you can be best friends with someone for 25 years and in a heartbeat...they dump you. But..that's not what I'm referring to with my statement. All I have to do here at TCB is take a look at the age groups...and 99% of the time the older fans think they are scumbags.:supriced::blink::blush:

[Merry]

I still stand by my original stance. IMO.....99% of the time our opinions on wether or not the West's were scumbags comes down to the age difference. Yes...I realize that friendships change through the years. I also know that you can be best friends with someone for 25 years and in a heartbeat...they dump you. But..that's not what I'm referring to with my statement. All I have to do here at TCB is take a look at the age groups...and 99% of the time the older fans think they are scumbags.:supriced::blink::blush:



I'm an honourary older fan :D:D:D:D:D

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I am not trying to be smart here . But, what if it was your friend you loved like a brother , or the one you'd trust with your life told all your dirty little secrets ? Then might you understand why some feel it was just too much from the Wests?
Perhaps not. But, I admit, I would not be that good at forgiving if someone did that to me. :'(
IMO, there would never have been as close a relationship as I imagined .

Your absolutely 100% right I wouldn't be happy. However I certainly wouldn't expect people who didn't know them to judge them, It simply isn't their place to do so!

Its fine not to like them but unhealthy to carry this on over 30 odd years.


I still stand by my original stance. IMO.....99% of the time our opinions on wether or not the West's were scumbags comes down to the age difference. Yes...I realize that friendships change through the years. I also know that you can be best friends with someone for 25 years and in a heartbeat...they dump you. But..that's not what I'm referring to with my statement. All I have to do here at TCB is take a look at the age groups...and 99% of the time the older fans think they are scumbags.:supriced::blink::blush:

You can certainly have your opinion. We should debate why we feel differently about the West's! We may never find a common ground? I believe the argument you are using to state your position is flawed, you said....
I think that the younger people of today don't put as much emphasis on certain things like we did, such as morals.

IMO that comment is a generalization and you are attacking the person(s) not the debate. What you are doing is appealing to a group of fans who think In a similar way by way of emotional rhetoric. I could generalize that older fans are less likely to be objective, that the younger generation is more forgiving than the last, but that wouldn't be true.

You are judging a person(s) character based on their opposition to a certain thought process, undermining an age group and singling it out for ridicule without foundation.

I'm not falling out with anyone about it because in the end it won't change anything ;)

[TotallyInsane]

I still stand by my original stance. IMO.....99% of the time our opinions on wether or not the West's were scumbags comes down to the age difference. Yes...I realize that friendships change through the years. I also know that you can be best friends with someone for 25 years and in a heartbeat...they dump you. But..that's not what I'm referring to with my statement. All I have to do here at TCB is take a look at the age groups...and 99% of the time the older fans think they are scumbags.

And, there are those friends that can be friends for 30 years without seeing or talking to each other and never once spill their guts!!! :supriced::supriced::lmfao::lmfao:

[cameron]

Your absolutely 100% right I wouldn't be happy. However I certainly wouldn't expect people who didn't know them to judge them, It simply isn't their place to do so!

Its fine not to like them but unhealthy to carry this on over 30 odd years.

I have children in their 30's . So, I agree with you it isn't the age.
It's the way they were raised and their value systems. They don't like the Wests either and think they were wrong. ;)
None of us were surprised at what was in the book--- the surprise was that "friends" wrote it.

No, I wouldn't dislike your friends because I don't know you. You see, some of us feel like Elvis was our best friend, there's the difference .
I don't think my dislike of the Wests is unheallthy. Just a nomal reaction to ones that hurt someone I care about.
I've read and listened to their interviews ,read their books. I see no sorrow on their part so I see no reason to "forgive" them.
Like I said elsewhere, I'm sure they're not losing any sleep because I don't like them and they're laughing all the way to the bank.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I have children in their 30's . So, I agree with you it isn't the age.
It's the way they were raised and their value systems. They don't like the Wests either and think they were wrong. ;)
None of us were surprised at what was in the book--- the surprise was that "friends" wrote it.

No, I wouldn't dislike your friends because I don't know you. You see, some of us feel like Elvis was our best friend, there's the difference .
I don't think my dislike of the Wests is unheallthy. Just a nomal reaction to ones that hurt someone I care about.
I've read and listened to their interviews ,read their books. I see no sorrow on their part so I see no reason to "forgive" them.
Like I said elsewhere, I'm sure they're not losing any sleep because I don't like them and they're laughing all the way to the bank.

Every day brings new Insults! now the way I was brought up and value systems are in question along with the fact that I don't feel a man who I have never met and has been dead for 30 years is not my best friend!

Life is for the living, I prefer the company of people I can converse with. Elvis is my hobby and has a place in my life, it doesn't take priority over family and friends.

Why are you and others trying to denigrate people who don't share your philosophy on Elvis? It isn't wrong to be different and have other opinions or views on the same subject matter.

I'm pretty certain from the books I have read, the DVD's I have seen that Elvis would have forgiven the West's given time. Carrying a grudge this long doesn't show that you are more of an Elvis fan, IMO quite the opposite, it shows that you cannot move on, cannot be the bigger person, cannot be compassionate & cannot forgive a person for sins long since past. Heaven forbid that you should ever be judged by you own belief systems....

[cameron]

Every day brings new Insults! now the way I was brought up and value systems are in question along with the fact that I don't feel a man who I have never met and has been dead for 30 years is not my best friend!

Life is for the living, I prefer the company of people I can converse with. Elvis is my hobby and has a place in my life, it doesn't take priority over family and friends.
Why are you and others trying to denigrate people who don't share your philosophy on Elvis? It isn't wrong to be different and have other opinions or views on the same subject matter.
I'm pretty certain from the books I have read, the DVD's I have seen that Elvis would have forgiven the West's given time. Carrying a grudge this long doesn't show that you are more of an Elvis fan, IMO quite the opposite, it shows that you cannot move on, cannot be the bigger person, cannot be compassionate & cannot forgive a person for sins long since past. Heaven forbid that you should ever be judged by you own belief systems....

Why did I know you would make this out to be an insult? :blink:
Believe me, Elvis doesn't take priority over my family or friends either .
Anyone is free to have their own opinions. I just don't like anyone trying to push anything down my throat either !
NO WHERE DID I SAY I WAS MORE OF A FAN THAN ANYONE ELSE !!
THAT"S YOUR LINE , NOT MINE !!
I am judged by my beliefs every day, just like the rest of us.
Why do you take things so personally?? Amazing !! :blink:

[ehollier]

I posted this in a few other places since the topic of the Sonny West has erupted. I hope you find some wisdom in it....

Elvis has been affecting people for 60 years!!!! He has touched countless while during his short life and since his death, that came too soon. It is so apparent that there is a division of opinions when it comes to the MM or Priscilla. If we really want to honor his memory, his contributions, his talent, his life - it is important that we respect everyone's opinions here. I know Elvis would have done the same thing.
I happened upon this today and it if very appropriate and fitting for today.

“It’s rare when an artist’s talent can touch an entire generation of people. It’s even rarer when that same influence affects several generations. ...”

Dick Clark

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Why do you take things so personally?? Amazing !! :blink:

Can't be bothered :doh:

[utmom2008]

I'm an honourary older fan :D:D:D:D:D

Welcome to My World!!! Maybe we could have badges or T-shirts made up!:lol::lol:

[utmom2008]

IMO that comment is a generalization and you are attacking the person(s) not the debate. What you are doing is appealing to a group of fans who think In a similar way by way of emotional rhetoric. I could generalize that older fans are less likely to be objective, that the younger generation is more forgiving than the last, but that wouldn't be true.

You are judging a person(s) character based on their opposition to a certain thought process, undermining an age group and singling it out for ridicule without foundation.

I'm not falling out with anyone about it because in the end it won't change anything ;)

I'm making a statement about the younger people of today(I don't mean 39) and their decision making process. I've formed this opinion by being a Mom to a 27 year old and a 22 year old. Also..by having a hubs who is a teacher and a coach. We are exposed to younger people on a daily basis. As a rule, kids today live their life on a looser moral compass than those of us who were children of the 60's and 70's. Right or wrong is debateable, but.....it is what it is.;)

[ehollier]

I'm making a statement about the younger people of today(I don't mean 39) and their decision making process. I've formed this opinion by being a Mom to a 27 year old and a 22 year old. Also..by having a hubs who is a teacher and a coach. We are exposed to younger people on a daily basis. As a rule, kids today live their life on a looser moral compass than those of us who were children of the 60's and 70's. Right or wrong is debateable, but.....it is what it is.;)

Rosanne, you know what you just stated is almost the same sentiments that were echoed when Elvis came on the scene over 60 years ago!! Its just the irony of it -- that is the ONLY point I'm making here.

[TotallyInsane]

I posted this in a few other places since the topic of the Sonny West has erupted. I hope you find some wisdom in it....

Elvis has been affecting people for 60 years!!!! He has touched countless while during his short life and since his death, that came too soon. It is so apparent that there is a division of opinions when it comes to the MM or Priscilla. If we really want to honor his memory, his contributions, his talent, his life - it is important that we respect everyone's opinions here. I know Elvis would have done the same thing.
I happened upon this today and it if very appropriate and fitting for today.

“It’s rare when an artist’s talent can touch an entire generation of people. It’s even rarer when that same influence affects several generations. ...”

Dick Clark


Do you write prescriptions with your therapy sessions? :doh::D

[utmom2008]

Rosanne, you know what you just stated is almost the same sentiments that were echoed when Elvis came on the scene over 60 years ago!! Its just the irony of it -- that is the ONLY point I'm making here.

In certain areas what the kids are doing "now" as opposed to what the kids were doing "then" is the same thing, it's just looked at differently. If kids of the 60's and 70's wanted to go and spend the weekend with their boyfriend it took lots of lying and manipulating on their part. Telling their parents some story about going out of town with their girlfriends..etc..etc. Now days....they just go! Simple as that! Also..back in the day if a girl got pregnant in HS it was a BIG deal!!! Huge!!! A couple of years ago there was a girl here in town who was voted Homecoming Queen. She was soooo excited!! The only bad thing was...she had to locate a babysitter before she could go and be presented with her crown!!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ehollier]

Do you write prescriptions with your therapy sessions? :doh::D

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

I've just got a great best friend and I listen to her!! Plus a little counseling while my husband was out of the country has helped me tremensously!! :P:P:P

[ehollier]

In certain areas what the kids are doing "now" as opposed to what the kids were doing "then" is the same thing, it's just looked at differently. If kids of the 60's and 70's wanted to go and spend the weekend with their boyfriend it took lots of lying and manipulating on their part. Telling their parents some story about going out of town with their girlfriends..etc..etc. Now days....they just go! Simple as that! Also..back in the day if a girl got pregnant in HS it was a BIG deal!!! Huge!!! A couple of years ago there was a girl here in town who was voted Homecoming Queen. She was soooo excited!! The only bad thing was...she had to locate a babysitter before she could go and be presented with her crown!!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

WHOA!!! I only said that it was ironic!!!

[utmom2008]

I've just got a great best friend and I listen to her!! Plus a little counseling while my husband was out of the country has helped me tremensously!! :P:P:P

Ooooohhhh. So that's what was helping you? We all thought it was something else.;):lol::lmfao:

[ehollier]

Ooooohhhh. So that's what was helping you? We all thought it was something else.;):lol::lmfao:

Well....that too....lol, but I was referring to his 18 months away from home, 12 of those spent in Iraq. Its a long and boring story, but did go to counseling, came away from those 18 months better than ever and lived to tell the tale. :P:P:P

[utmom2008]

Well....that too....lol, but I was referring to his 18 months away from home, 12 of those spent in Iraq. Its a long and boring story, but did go to counseling, came away from those 18 months better than ever and lived to tell the tale. :P:P:P

Wow! Did you go a full 18 months without seeing him?? What was his job in Iraq? I take it your hubs has made a career out of the military??:hmm::doh:

[ehollier]

Wow! Did you go a full 18 months without seeing him?? What was his job in Iraq? I take it your hubs has made a career out of the military??:hmm::doh:

The longest I went without seeing him was 7 months b/f he came home for 2 weeks of leave. How can you repair a relationship with a such a separatoin in 2 weeks??? Let me tell you --- you can't!! I experienced what is sometimes referred to as 'dark night of the soul'. That's dramatic, I realize, but in all of married and unmarried life, it was the most emotional and greatest test of faith ever!! No, my husband is an officer in the Louisiana National Guard and was deployed in 2004. He returned the week Hurricane Rita savaged our coast. But my world is great today. Great relationship, got some new thinking and communicating skills and things are wonderful!!!!! But an ENORMOUS test of faith!!!

[utmom2008]

The longest I went without seeing him was 7 months b/f he came home for 2 weeks of leave. How can you repair a relationship with a such a separatoin in 2 weeks??? Let me tell you --- you can't!! I experienced what is sometimes referred to as 'dark night of the soul'. That's dramatic, I realize, but in all of married and unmarried life, it was the most emotional and greatest test of faith ever!! No, my husband is an officer in the Louisiana National Guard and was deployed in 2004. He returned the week Hurricane Rita savaged our coast. But my world is great today. Great relationship, got some new thinking and communicating skills and things are wonderful!!!!! But an ENORMOUS test of faith!!!

Good gosh...that's quite a story.:blush::blink: Is the dark night of the soul something that can be read about? Like the way you can read about the empty nest syndrome? I would think a separation like that has to be extra hard due to the ages of your children.:blush::blush::supriced:

[ehollier]

Good gosh...that's quite a story.:blush::blink: Is the dark night of the soul something that can be read about? Like the way you can read about the empty nest syndrome? I would think a separation like that has to be extra hard due to the ages of your children.:blush::blush::supriced:

Yes, there is a book entitled Dark Night of the Soul which is based on an old Catholic theory by St. John of the Cross when someone has a crisis in faith. I don't however, remember the book being a 'religious' book. Just a heavy book about a severe test of one's faith that leads to deeper understanding and greater love.

I used the term to describe how I felt during those months b/c there were problems on other fronts that shaped this depressing period of my life. But I can say that the separation, although miserable and gloomy, was the best thing that could have happened b/c there was no way that the other 'problems' could have been solved, in retrospect. So, you see, it was a very long period of learning, growing, and development.