View Full Version : Whats your limit ?
NightRider
09-17-2004, 01:02 PM
I asked the same question on another board...probably about the same time last year :P But it would be interesting to hear what you people buy.
Me, personally, I have given up buying every single release. By that i mean boot/import whatever you want to call them.
Plain and simply because of the amount of the great releases around...cd's..DVD's..boxsets..whatever... its plenty enough to spend all my available cash.
I used to buy the lot. Its the Audience recordings mainly that i am talking about. Now i am selective in which ones i buy and which i don't. I do. of course get all the soundboards...FTD's and standard releases. So that is my question. A little around the houses in the end....
What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)
I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.
Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?
Cherokee
09-17-2004, 01:28 PM
I asked the same question on another board...probably about the same time last year :P But it would be interesting to hear what you people buy.
Me, personally, I have given up buying every single release. By that i mean boot/import whatever you want to call them.
Plain and simply because of the amount of the great releases around...cd's..DVD's..boxsets..whatever... its plenty enough to spend all my available cash.
I used to buy the lot. Its the Audience recordings mainly that i am talking about. Now i am selective in which ones i buy and which i don't. I do. of course get all the soundboards...FTD's and standard releases. So that is my question. A little around the houses in the end....
What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)
I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.
Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?
Okay, this is probably going to sound like a rant, but it's not, just my general opinion and not aimed at Nightrider :hug: or anybody in particular (on this board anyway :P ).
I'd say my limit is REAL LIFE. Things like bills, rent, food, gas, clothes, medication whatever.
My personal belief is that the depth of one's "being a fan" cannot and should not be measured by what one owns of/about one's object of affection i.e. one's "idol". :!:
I've read some threads on "that other board" where some annoyingly obnoxious know it alls and "own it alls" terrorize anybody who "doesn't know what they know" or "doesn't own what they own" about Elvis.
To me that is just pathetic and terribly bigheaded. I'd say that only proves they know shockingly little about Elvis whose motto was "I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated".
Bullying people off a message board because they do not express or experience their fandom the way these "experts" feel everybody should :nono: , is something I have a very strong feeling would piss off Elvis royally (y)
But, like I said, that's what I, as a lurker, have seen happen on that other MB which is one reason why I will never join it. I always hate the company of self important nobodys.
So, speaking solely for me: I love Elvis dearly, will try to expand my modest collection with things I find or suspect to be interesting (doesn't always work, some DVD's in particular are disappointing) but my Real Life always comes first and frankly I really don't need to have all that much. I have a (very) little of everything, except FTD's or soundboards whatever the hell those may be :rolleyes: : DVD's, official CD's, books, tapes, calendars, commemorative plates... but really nothing compared to what I've read most other fans have. :blink: Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way :P
Does that make me any less of a fan? Absolutely not.
He's in my heart, I can visualize him if I need to and I just love him, warts and all:wub:
curtis simpkins
09-17-2004, 02:32 PM
has for this year i have stop buying Elvis music,
because i got all that i need in my collection.
most of the stuff thats coming out now even out-takes its same ol same stuff
again.
even the concert's are about the same.
so now i am starting on my Johnny Cash collection on cd.
i hard that he recorded about 1,500 songs and that's a lot of music there.
if i had to buy an elvis cd it has to be a special one. but has for now
i am done with my Elvis music collection for now.
buttonhead
09-17-2004, 03:16 PM
What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)
I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.
Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?
I am not a collector ,...yet :)
i am picky,...i remember one time i got my Elvis ADIOS CD,..it was audience recordings, and all i could hear the most was those girls screaming..
:P ..and that got me to the point ,..if i wanted to buy elvis imports , bootleg etc.and its audience recording,...i only follow the one that has good quality sounds ..
so far about DVD ,VHS...VCD, i prefer to buy the original one...or better to say wait until elvis enterprises giving them license and released it to the public,..maybe thats why my elvis DVD is, well i cant say much but its good quality .. the only one i got in DVD ( bootleg) was the one CBS special..worthy ..
thats all i can say for now..BTW great topic NR (y)
mn-designs
09-17-2004, 03:59 PM
That's a hard question to answer..
These days i have 2 children..so most of the money we make are for the childeren and for food and clothes ect..than if there is some money left..i can buy some new releases. So most of the time now i'll buy the new stuff some weeks later, when the prices are dropped a little..
And for the major new releases, i'll try to buy them on the day they are released, like the new aloha and comeback dvd's, i bought them on the special preview party we had here in holland, so i had them almost 2 weeks before the actual release date.
In short: i'll buy almost everything...but it may take some time..
Yes i'm a die-hard fan..but only the good stuff i buy, the new released movies..(viva las vegas, trouble with girls ect..) i got them for my birthday, if i had to buy them...i don't think so, the quality of these new movies are not that great, the picture is ok but the sound..mono recordings? in 2004? what the h--ll are they doing there at mgm and wb?
Hope this answers your question..
Elvisgirl
09-17-2004, 04:13 PM
i dont have a limit :) i want more elvis...and more and more and even more :worthy:
NightRider
09-17-2004, 04:16 PM
I hope people didn't get the wrong impression here...it was just a question :blink:
I know what its like when money is tight...believe me...i have been through it myself. It took me years to catch up...and thats probably due to eventually getting a better paid job...and the kids growing up (y) .
Whatever you have...cd wise or anything else for that matter...doesn't always make you a bigger or better fan. ( Cherokee....yes i know what its like on FECC at times..they have it all and know it all...and i certainly cannot make that statement :blink: ) It depends on your circumstances....of that i am only too aware.
I was trying to find out what level of bootleg 'soundquality' people would buy....more than how many cd's they could afford.
some of it is just pure rubbish...released to line the pockets of bootleggers...and some for the benefit of Elvis fans...where do you draw the line ?
Cherokee
09-17-2004, 04:33 PM
I hope people didn't get the wrong impression here...it was just a question :blink:
I know what its like when money is tight...believe me...i have been through it myself. It took me years to catch up...and thats probably due to eventually getting a better paid job...and the kids growing up (y) .
Whatever you have...cd wise or anything else for that matter...doesn't always make you a bigger or better fan. ( Cherokee....yes i know what its like on FECC at times..they have it all and know it all...and i certainly cannot make that statement :blink: ) It depends on your circumstances....of that i am only too aware.
I was trying to find out what level of bootleg 'soundquality' people would buy....more than how many cd's they could afford.
some of it is just pure rubbish...released to line the pockets of bootleggers...and some for the benefit of Elvis fans...where do you draw the line ?
;) NR, I know what you meant and to your question I answered with the
"Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way " comment.
So many (official, cos I only know those) releases already overlap each other as far as material goes, that I for one am not going to buy three CD's that beween them may only have four different songs :blink:
And it's not even necessarily a question of money, but more a question of what quality you get for how much money. I am not a fan of most of Elvis mid sixties Travelogue movies. I have them on video tape, but I think most of them are too bad to spend 15 to 20 Euro on on a DVD (because the movie DVD's barely have extra stuff on them). :nono:
So, unless someone gives them to me as a present, you won't see me buying a mediocre movie like "Clambake" on DVD as I already have it on VHS.... ;) That's what I actually meant by that statement of not needing to have everything :P
Jumpsuit Junkie
09-17-2004, 04:33 PM
I used to be a massive collector, I have about 100 Vinyl LP's none bought in the last ten years, about 40 CD's none bought in the last year. 10 video's, 7 DVD's Aloha, 68 special etc, hundreds of books and magazines over the last 27 years, Elvis Busts, cup coasters, drinking glases, whatever crap come out I bought it in the early years, 80% of which is in my mums attic and I left there about 8 years ago.
When I got married and had my daughter money was tight, in those early days I only bought stuff that was a must have, now I am more stable financially I tend to buy only something that is new (Unseen or Heard). I don't think you have to have a large collection to be an Elvis fan (My collection is bigger than yours Bullsh*t). If you came into my house you would have to look pretty hard to see an Elvis fan lived there, I don't hide the fact I am an Elvis fan but don't feel the need to go over the top anymore, plus the fact my wife might have something to say about it. although I have an Elvis 1956 Live poster in my hall in a clip frame, this is none negotiable!
All in all you do what you feel is best, no one should judge, but it does feel good to buy something special every once in a while. :P
NightRider
09-17-2004, 04:39 PM
I used to be a massive collector, I have about 100 Vinyl LP's none bought in the last ten years, about 40 CD's none bought in the last year. 10 video's, 7 DVD's Aloha, 68 special etc, hundreds of books and magazines over the last 27 years, Elvis Busts, cup coasters, drinking glases, whatever crap come out I bought it in the early years, 80% of which is in my mums attic and I left there about 8 years ago.
When I got married and had my daughter money was tight, in those early days I only bought stuff that was a must have, now I am more stable financially I tend to buy only something that is new (Unseen or Heard). I don't think you have to have a large collection to be an Elvis fan (My collection is bigger than yours Bullsh*t). If you came into my house you would have to look pretty hard to see an Elvis fan lived there, I don't hide the fact I am an Elvis fan but don't feel the need to go over the top anymore, plus the fact my wife might have something to say about it. although I have an Elvis 1956 Live poster in my hall in a clip frame, this is none negotiable!
All in all you do what you feel is best, no one should judge, but it does feel good to buy something special every once in a while. :P
I agree Matt....couldn't have said it better :P
But that wasn't my question my friend :'( :'(
iamhekev
09-17-2004, 05:03 PM
First of all,i am a member of the fecc board,and at times things get out of hand,no two ways about that.
As for your Q nightrider,i am like you,those shows that sound like the were recorded 3 streets away?,whats the point.
I have stopped buying bootlegs,and will now trade for cd-rs only,as some of the story"s i have heard,were some of the money go"s,etc,is a :nono: for me.
As for the size of collection i have,i won"t say how many of this that and the next,as i get real mad at times when i"m doing a trade,and some says i have only xyz(3-400) cds,and they want you to turn round a do the old :worthy: when in truth you are thinking :angry:.
In my eyes,someone who has gone out of there way to join mbs,buy the odd cd,book,dvd,etc,has as much right to have there say on the MEMPHIS BOY,as say joe smuck,who cant open the door of his EP room,because its full to the brim....
God,this wee note is heading for the size of war and peace = fecc,thats were i came in,and were i leave...
Just a view.
KEV.
Elvisgirl
09-17-2004, 05:04 PM
lol i know what its like when the money is tight though i dont have children...
anyway, what i meant when i said " dont have a limit i want more elvis...and more and more and even more" was simply that i havent been a fan for that long and i havent heard/seen everything like ya'll prolly have....
Jumpsuit Junkie
09-17-2004, 05:09 PM
I agree Matt....couldn't have said it better :P
But that wasn't my question my friend :'( :'(
In answer to the original question & not posts following ;) , Money would not be a factor, it's more the quality of sound or picture and whether or not I thought it was a must have, So I guess I am selective also :P
Lonniebealestreet
09-17-2004, 06:36 PM
If money wasn't a factor, and it most certainly is, I probably would try to acquire everything I could get my hands on, with the exception of some of the really bad audience recordings some of you mentioned...although you do sort of develop a tolerance for the inferior quality after a while, up to a certain point anyway.
Official releases with nothing new to offer I'll skip, unless it is for a considerable jump in sound quality.
NightRider
09-18-2004, 02:54 AM
In answer to the original question & not posts following ;) , Money would not be a factor, it's more the quality of sound or picture and whether or not I thought it was a must have, So I guess I am selective also :P
The original question seems to have gotten lost there...somewhere at the start :P Still...we are getting there now (y)
Its sound quality for me all the way....thats what i judge on....but as Bobby said also....if money were no option...which it is...then i would buy the lot for sure...just to complete the collection.
Some really bad audience recordings are worth a listen. And even the worst, i have listened to...so i can get an idea what the actual show was like. You never know...one day it may come out in better quality..so it is worth knowing what the shows are like.
If you remember some of the great FB soundboards were first released by other bootleg companies ( though whether that is the case - as in other companies or the same under different names..is another question alltogether ) in poor audience quality.
The booters releasiing audience seemed to have died altogether a couple of years ago ( with the odd exception ) but right now they seem to have come back from the dead.
The new Whitehaven releases ( which i haven't listened to yet ) sound as if they will contain some great material...a live version of I John...being just one example....so we will see whether they are worth keeping on the cd shelf or not :P
Albert
09-18-2004, 03:00 AM
What am I buying instantly:
* all FTD releases
* BMG boxsets
* soundboard imports
* remastered, re-released original RCA album (like -hopefully- Fool, Raised On Rock, etc.)
What I might buy:
* a good "new" (hahahaa) BMG compilation (I have E1, E2 and Christmas Peace)
* audience recordings that have good sound, good artwork and nice content (all three)
* studio outtakes import cd's (since most big import labels have covered some nice sessions already, and FTD is doing such a good job on this as well, I will buy a new studio outtakes import cd very rarely).
Besides FTD, BMG and the import labels are currently doing a poor job. E1 and E2 were nice, but they (BMG) are already trying to do the same trick (re-re-releasing the same compilations with different titles/artwork and a slightly changed tracklist). The importlabels are relying on poor audience recordings and re-releases of material previously available on other (better) labels.
Memphis
09-18-2004, 12:40 PM
Okay, this is probably going to sound like a rant, but it's not, just my general opinion and not aimed at Nightrider :hug: or anybody in particular (on this board anyway :P ).
I'd say my limit is REAL LIFE. Things like bills, rent, food, gas, clothes, medication whatever.
My personal belief is that the depth of one's "being a fan" cannot and should not be measured by what one owns of/about one's object of affection i.e. one's "idol". :!:
I've read some threads on "that other board" where some annoyingly obnoxious know it alls and "own it alls" terrorize anybody who "doesn't know what they know" or "doesn't own what they own" about Elvis.
To me that is just pathetic and terribly bigheaded. I'd say that only proves they know shockingly little about Elvis whose motto was "I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated".
Bullying people off a message board because they do not express or experience their fandom the way these "experts" feel everybody should :nono: , is something I have a very strong feeling would piss off Elvis royally (y)
But, like I said, that's what I, as a lurker, have seen happen on that other MB which is one reason why I will never join it. I always hate the company of self important nobodys.
So, speaking solely for me: I love Elvis dearly, will try to expand my modest collection with things I find or suspect to be interesting (doesn't always work, some DVD's in particular are disappointing) but my Real Life always comes first and frankly I really don't need to have all that much. I have a (very) little of everything, except FTD's or soundboards whatever the hell those may be :rolleyes: : DVD's, official CD's, books, tapes, calendars, commemorative plates... but really nothing compared to what I've read most other fans have. :blink: Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way :P
Does that make me any less of a fan? Absolutely not.
He's in my heart, I can visualize him if I need to and I just love him, warts and all:wub:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Here! Here!! someone with an ounce of reality!
Memphis
09-18-2004, 12:44 PM
The original question seems to have gotten lost there...somewhere at the start :P Still...we are getting there now (y)
Its sound quality for me all the way....thats what i judge on....but as Bobby said also....if money were no option...which it is...then i would buy the lot for sure...just to complete the collection.........or not :P
I guess my first reaction to the subject line was $$ since I associate limit with charge card limits, therefore money limit. Was it about the music?
stilllovinelvis
09-18-2004, 01:15 PM
I am not a "serious" collector. I have just started adding to my few audio and video tapes. I am trying to be selective in what I purchase. I am not one who feels I have to have everything just for the sake of having it. I want audio that is understandable and decent sound quality, something that I can enjoy listening to again and again. And video, I would like to have a decent picture of Elvis and decent sound as well. A couple videos I purchased are not very close up and his face is a white blob. I don't care for that. I want to SEE him. That's just how I feel. I would like to buy more, but I am trying to be careful and get good quality. Pittsburg, 12/31/76 dvd is fantastic! And I like Elvis in Concert dvd and cd to name a couple.
spinout-designs
09-18-2004, 01:44 PM
Sorry Nightrider, I'm gonna go off at a slight tangent here and comment on audience recordings specifically, regarding the quality aspect.
Now, I am a keen collector of audience recordings (though they are not all originals) they do often offer something of interest, and I kinda consider them as my ticket to another Elvis Presley show.
However, often times the quality of these audience recordings are far from great, and you are more listening to them for the dialogue inbetween than for the enjoyment of the songs themselves (that's if you can even make the dialogue out on some of them).
I dunno about you, but sometimes I wonder why the hell am I playing a CD with **** sound quality when there are now so many soundboard and multi track performances to choose from.
Then on other occasions there will be a real cool snippet where Elvis says something funny or it's a great show and you're glad you didn't miss it.
At the end of the day, with audience recordings you are getting more of the experience of a show than anything else, and for that reason I guess I will continue to collect them, however, I certainly don't need re-issued audience recordings of shows I already have.
NightRider
09-19-2004, 02:40 AM
I guess my first reaction to the subject line was $$ since I associate limit with charge card limits, therefore money limit. Was it about the music?
well thats what i meant it to be about :P Oh well...turned into an interesting discussion anyhow didn't it (y)
NightRider
09-19-2004, 02:47 AM
Sorry Nightrider, I'm gonna go off at a slight tangent here and comment on audience recordings specifically, regarding the quality aspect.
Now, I am a keen collector of audience recordings (though they are not all originals) they do often offer something of interest, and I kinda consider them as my ticket to another Elvis Presley show.
However, often times the quality of these audience recordings are far from great, and you are more listening to them for the dialogue inbetween than for the enjoyment of the songs themselves (that's if you can even make the dialogue out on some of them).
I dunno about you, but sometimes I wonder why the hell am I playing a CD with **** sound quality when there are now so many soundboard and multi track performances to choose from.
Then on other occasions there will be a real cool snippet where Elvis says something funny or it's a great show and you're glad you didn't miss it.
At the end of the day, with audience recordings you are getting more of the experience of a show than anything else, and for that reason I guess I will continue to collect them, however, I certainly don't need re-issued audience recordings of shows I already have.
Thats not off to a slight tangent...thats what i was asking in the first place :clap:
And you sum it up to perfection....there are alot to be found in Audience recordings...whatever the soundquality...but then you have to admit once yu have listened to it once or twice...it would be a rare occasion to put it back on the player :P
How many times do you think " i'll listen to a live show...i know i will play that horrible 'sounding' show from ...... ( even if its a great show )....." Not that often i would guess :P
Thats one reason why i listen first..and if there are exceptional moments in the show....then i buy it...if its pretty standard ( nothing out of the ordinary ) then i don't bother.
But as i said at the top...if money was no object, i would get them all anyhow (y)
I buy everything I can but I also collect movie posters and have a house and family so not everything is possible.
Sdaly I've so far missed the past couple of FTDs.
I keep wishing, though
Liverbobs
09-19-2004, 05:29 AM
I try to buy all the relevant releases, most, but not all of the FTD and the box sets, my wife will say something like " Does he burp during one of the songs, is that why you have to have another version of.........(put whatever song title here!)?" Good job she's only joking!..at least I think she is... :D :hmm: LOL!
jbgude
09-19-2004, 05:45 AM
I think Bobby pretty summed up my feelings there, though I for one have long ago stopped buying " everything" - I simply do not have the physical space . So no re-releases or compilations for me unless the sound quality really warrants it. After a terrible experience a couple of years ago, where I lost a large part of my books and magazines I have stopped buying books:
I find I hardly listen to 70% of my CDs regularly -and almost never even look at my books! One of these days,if the price is right I just may sell of my books & mags ( Sean Shaver's included !).
jb
Elvisgirl
09-19-2004, 05:52 AM
For me the main thing about my Elvis collection are the cd?s, I?m not interested in framed pictures, Elvis dolls, or other crappy things
i feel exactly the same way
well maybe not about the framed pictures :) i mean i do have some on my walls...and they wouldnt be there if i didnt care about them :)
but the other crappy things i dont care about...its the cd's thats most the important
buttonhead
09-19-2004, 11:37 AM
speaking of which money wise when it gets to buy elvis stuff,...to be honest elvis merchandise is consider as expensive, and that must have been kind of 'dilemma' for some elvis fans..there are cheap CDs out there but same ol' same ol' songs in there,..but some of you here dont have problems with it ( money wise )since its a hobbie, the feelings when you got those stuff you wanted and you got it, is more than money can buy. well its just my cent worth of opinion :P
stilllovinelvis
09-19-2004, 01:53 PM
Liverbobs - I got a kick out of your wife's "burp" comment. That's hysterical. I would like to see MORE of the REAL Elvis. I am interested in hearing more of him talking. I was thinking of trying to buy "Desert Storm" or "Crazy-The Funny Side of Elvis", but I don't know if they can be purchased in the U.S. Does anyone know where to go to get these? And does anyone have them and how are they?
Albert
09-19-2004, 02:22 PM
Without peaking at the cover, I really can't tell the difference between the many alternate takes. So 9 out of 10 times the master + one alternate would be enough. But still.... I keep on buying those FTD's and imports. It's really like a virus.
Same with soundboards: how many CC Riders, I Got a Woman and Hound Dog's are really worth the extra money. If you have two or 3 live cd's from each year, you should have enough.... But still..... I keep on buying them.... It's really like a virus....
I guess I'm infected and I don't want a cure :P
Elvis42
09-19-2004, 02:39 PM
As with almost everyone else money is always a consideration with what my limit can be, but there was a time not to long ago when I tried to collect all the audio I could. I was fortunate in the fact that almost all ofthe bootlegs and some FTD releases that I aquired were throught trades with other Elvis fans. So money wasn't a major consideration there. As for Elvis memorabilia I find most of it a waste of my time, just my opinion. I am now in the process of trying to aquire a small picture collection, mostly for my cover art work and some just for my own enjoyment. I am not a big fan of AR, although I do have a few, especially the New Years Eve 76 concert, and the Fairytales concert from Cleveland, because as I have stated before my mother was fortunate enought to see Elvis live twice in the 70' at the Richfield Coliseum in Cleveland and my aunt attend the infamous New Years Eve concert in Pittsburgh. I haven't been impressed with too many other AR's. That is not to say I wouldn't aquire ones that I think are worth it. as Albert said you can only have so many C.C. Riders, I Got A Woman / Amen's, but it is an addiction and who wants to be cured :lol: Just my 2 cents worth
J.C.
Liverbobs
09-19-2004, 11:55 PM
still lovinelvis pm me! I can send you a copy of desert storm if you like ! (y)
Cherokee
09-20-2004, 12:48 AM
Liverbobs - I got a kick out of your wife's "burp" comment. That's hysterical. I would like to see MORE of the REAL Elvis. I am interested in hearing more of him talking. I was thinking of trying to buy "Desert Storm" or "Crazy-The Funny Side of Elvis", but I don't know if they can be purchased in the U.S. Does anyone know where to go to get these? And does anyone have them and how are they?
:blink: Hey! I thought our chosen Avatars were exclusive once chosen?!! :supriced: Moderators please? Could you explain? :'(
julieann
09-20-2004, 07:02 AM
Cherokee,
yes i agree with you - that 'other board' can be quite scary.
;)
Lonniebealestreet
09-20-2004, 07:26 AM
Nice one, Ron.
Cherokee, I can understand why you might think that, and it seems like a good idea, but really even if it were set to not make previously selected avatars available, they still could be copied and used.
Actually, we just like to watch people fight over 'em. ;) Only kidding.
I hope you like Unchained's solution.
Cherokee
09-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Nice one, Ron.
Cherokee, I can understand why you might think that, and it seems like a good idea, but really even if it were set to not make previously selected avatars available, they still could be copied and used.
Actually, we just like to watch people fight over 'em. ;) Only kidding.
I hope you like Unchained's solution.
I see. It don't make me any happier, cos I really love the avatar I chose :'(
Maybe I gotta start looking for an image that feels as much "me" as this one did and then maybe some avatar fairy will make me one ;)
Cherokee
09-20-2004, 07:50 AM
I?m not a moderator in the Elvis topics, but this can be the answer to your problem. :D
I love it, Unchained, but it doesn't "speak to me" the way my current avatar does. I dunno, hard to explain :P It sorta jumped off the page to me, his expression in that pic is very much in synch with my character, I feel. :blush:
(yes I'm weird that way - so shoot me :P ;) )
stilllovinelvis
09-20-2004, 11:45 AM
I just saw your post about the avatar. I am so sorry. I did not realize we were not supposed to duplicate each other. I just figured out last night how to get one. And I went to the page where we were given options of what to pick. And this was my favorite, just made me smile to see him smile like that. Don't change yours. You had it first. It was my mistake. I don't know how to get one that is not listed though. So I will have to pick another off the list. How will I know if someone else has already chosen it? Again, you keep this one. It means more to you. I can find another one. If I pick someone elses again though, just let me know and I'll try again, or just won't use one. I'll find one or someone can help me.
Cherokee
09-20-2004, 12:27 PM
I just saw your post about the avatar. I am so sorry. I did not realize we were not supposed to duplicate each other. I just figured out last night how to get one. And I went to the page where we were given options of what to pick. And this was my favorite, just made me smile to see him smile like that. Don't change yours. You had it first. It was my mistake. I don't know how to get one that is not listed though. So I will have to pick another off the list. How will I know if someone else has already chosen it? Again, you keep this one. It means more to you. I can find another one. If I pick someone elses again though, just let me know and I'll try again, or just won't use one. I'll find one or someone can help me.
Aaaawww, you're sweet :hug: I know I'm a little anal :blink:
I just always thought it was supposed to be "fixed" in that once one was chosen, it disappeared from the tableau, but apparently it didn't :blink:
Anyway, thanks for your sportsmanship (y)
stilllovinelvis
09-20-2004, 12:49 PM
Your welcome. He is REALLY cute there. I can't blame you for wanting THAT all to yourself. ;)
Cherokee
09-20-2004, 01:10 PM
Your welcome. He is REALLY cute there. I can't blame you for wanting THAT all to yourself. ;)
Honey, if I'd been old enough while he was looking like that, I might have caused the man an involuntary stay at the hospital :P :oops: ;)
veronik
10-23-2004, 01:03 PM
Okay, this is probably going to sound like a rant, but it's not, just my general opinion and not aimed at Nightrider :hug: or anybody in particular (on this board anyway :P ).
I'd say my limit is REAL LIFE. Things like bills, rent, food, gas, clothes, medication whatever.
My personal belief is that the depth of one's "being a fan" cannot and should not be measured by what one owns of/about one's object of affection i.e. one's "idol". :!:
I've read some threads on "that other board" where some annoyingly obnoxious know it alls and "own it alls" terrorize anybody who "doesn't know what they know" or "doesn't own what they own" about Elvis.
To me that is just pathetic and terribly bigheaded. I'd say that only proves they know shockingly little about Elvis whose motto was "I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated".
Bullying people off a message board because they do not express or experience their fandom the way these "experts" feel everybody should :nono: , is something I have a very strong feeling would piss off Elvis royally (y)
But, like I said, that's what I, as a lurker, have seen happen on that other MB which is one reason why I will never join it. I always hate the company of self important nobodys.
So, speaking solely for me: I love Elvis dearly, will try to expand my modest collection with things I find or suspect to be interesting (doesn't always work, some DVD's in particular are disappointing) but my Real Life always comes first and frankly I really don't need to have all that much. I have a (very) little of everything, except FTD's or soundboards whatever the hell those may be :rolleyes: : DVD's, official CD's, books, tapes, calendars, commemorative plates... but really nothing compared to what I've read most other fans have. :blink: Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way :P
Does that make me any less of a fan? Absolutely not.
He's in my heart, I can visualize him if I need to and I just love him, warts and all:wub:
Well said.Same with me (y) I also collect what I can.But is sad to say that a fan stop writing to me because I don't have enough.I am a fan.I love Elvis and that's what counts.The reason that I join this group is because we all love Elvis here.And sure I would love to buy things that I see at www.elvis.com.I love the t-shirts,the tour jacket,but my only income is my SSI and I just can't afford it :'( But I was both sad and angry :angry: with the fan that told me that my collection is very poor.God I got posters on my walls,cd's,boxes,lp's,dolls,graceland,the planes,but PLEASE!! DO NOT THINK I LOVE ELVIS LESS BECAUSE I GOT LESS THAN YOU!! :angry: :'(
Sorry guys,but I needed to vent. :wallbash:
Albert
10-23-2004, 04:46 PM
Fortunately I don't care for Elvis merchandise and first/international pressings, so that saves me quite a few bucks. Currently I'm quite happy with the amount if FTD's being released. And with the new movie DVD's coming out, the "Elvis budget" is quite tight.
So besides the FTD/BMG CD's and the occasional bootleg, I like to buy an Elvis book once in a while. My latest buy is "Such Vicious Minds (a murder detective featuring Elvis)". I can really recommend that book (or any in that series) to any Elvis (or detective) fan (y)
Captain Elwood David
10-23-2004, 05:08 PM
Once upon a time, ......... I wanted it all ................ any and every Elvis release, boot or otherwise.
That all changed with the release of crappy and redundant material (in both cases) ...... and the unshakable feeling that I was being royally ripped-off in the process.
I quickly got fed up with most of the AR's (audience recordings), regretted buying after one listen, ................. and such rip-off releases almost soured me completely against boots. Thank goodness better quality releases gave me reason to keep the hope alive. Now, of course, with FTD's ...................... I'm in seventh heaven.
Now, with the web, .......... & other sources, one can evaluate before spending the money. I pick & choose accordingly only what interests me.
Soundboards or decent quality studio outtakes always capture my attention, as does truly unheard material of any kind. The audio, however, must be listenable; this is highly subjective to individuals. I derive no pleasure from having to strain to understand what EP is singing / saying ........... or constantly filter-out other noises to enjoy.
The vast majority of AR's, I've found, are both a waste of time & money. There are a few minority exceptions ............ for venues that are either extremely unique and / or historical. In such cases, I seek them out specifically for those reasons.
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I don't necessarily agree with the notion or need that some have to have everything just for the sake of having or completion.
Buy whatever you want, no matter what it is, so long as you are going to actively USE / ENJOY / LISTEN / and truly derive pleasure from it. Otherwise, IMO, ........... you don't really need it and / or one's priorities in life might need a second or revised evaluation.
In other cases, some fans even make their collections into a business ................ further justifying the passions ..................... by selling / taking advantage of / ripping-off other fans / collectors ......... all for the sake of having it all or more.
There is a fine line between "collecting" and mental illness ............... and decadence is never far behind either. I see it all the time in The Elvis World.
- Capt. "EL."
rickster
10-24-2004, 02:08 AM
at the start i was guilty of trying to grab a copy of every release that was available until i realised that i wasted some of my time on getting the poor quality audience recordings and i was missing out on studio outtakes/mixing desk recordings :doh: . suddenly a whole new world opened up when i realised that there was a lot of superb stuff going around. I won't collect/buy any recording(especially audience source) unless it is in a clear sound and your able to hear what goes on concerning the band and vocals. Take for example 'fight night' as we know this was the night when elvis was attacked on stage, eveyone seems to have this title, it sounds great to read about the events that happened that particular night, so when i discovered that there was a recording of that actual show naturally i went after it like a rat up a drainage pipe, imagine my horror when i got it home only to discover that you could not make out a single thing that happened throughout the entire concert inluding the fighting part, in fact the only giveaway that something is occuring is when you hear the females in the audience start to scream. fight night is the best example of quality i wont buy (I ended up throwing fight night in the bin :angry: .
ps. if anyone has good/decent quality recording of that show get in touch coz i'm still looking for one, cheers, rickster.
Captain Elwood David
10-24-2004, 05:47 AM
Rickster -
For a minute there, when I first glanced at your post, .............. my initial reaction was -
HEY, I DIDN'T WRITE THIS ........... !!
(Like your avatar ............)
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"Fight Night", "Pearl Harbor 1961", and a number of other unique concerts ("Neon Lights"), and "Send Me The Light, I Need It Bad" ................. are all some of the "exceptions" to AR's that I as referring to.
While I will agree that the sound on some is horrible, ................ it is also all we got. It is definitely better than .................. nothing.
They do allow a glimpse into how it really was that would otherwise forever be left to conjecture, MYTH, ................ and hype. It's always good to have some evidence as to how the FACTS truly were so that others can form their own opinions about the events, ........... rather than relying completely on others.
After giving some a listen myself, ............. like "Send Me The Light", .............. I come away with a very different opinion than what has generally been put forth by others discussing the topic (I don't think it was as bad as it has been made out to be).
In this regard, some of the more historical AR's help to keep in check & counter-balance the negative overblown MYTH.
- Capt. "EL."
ComeBackChick
12-25-2004, 12:18 PM
My limit.... I will never buy an Elvis doll or statue or whatever other appliance with Elvis on it....
Only books, CD's and DVD's. And I am not into audience recordings. Not into jumpsuits. I am more in trying to understand the man, his life, his story.
From time to time I had to take a break from Elvis (just back from a very long break!), cause he can make me happy and his music is balm to the soul, but he also make me very sad sometimes.... :'(
JerryNodak
12-26-2004, 05:34 AM
What's my limit? Well, first of all I'm not a collecter. I don't have "everything". No "Imports", audience recordings, promos, etc.
As far as the main label and/or FTD releases are concerned I buy them if the
track selection/theme interests me. I could care less about the cover/liner photo etc. I used to care about the liner notes but the print is so small nowadays(except for the FTD 7 inch releases) I can't read it. I'll buy a re-re-re-release of an album for the "improved" sound if it's a favorite album.
Otherwise, no. In short, it al comes down to the music. If the musical content is something I want I buy it. All other factors(except price) are
secondary.
AKing
12-26-2004, 09:45 AM
Hi all,
Great thread, love to read all that you want or can't afford. My request was simple to Santa. I wanted a larger hard drive for my computer. Is this an Elvis gift I hear you cry?
Yup as nearly everything I save on my hard drive is either Elvis photo's or music...The bigger hard drive the better. Santa was very good to me this year....Trouble is I might have to spend a day installing it...lol
Thanks
A King :king:
Mr. Songman
12-29-2004, 10:23 PM
Years ago, I was one of "those" who collected all concerts regardless of the sound. I had over 600 of them. Then for a few years I put them away and didn't listen to any of them. This is when they were only available on cassette tape. Now days, it is a different story. I'm back at it but with a new outlook. I got rid of every cassette tape that I owned. I did not give them away, I did not sell them, I literally threw them in the garbage and started over. Now I only collect certain CD's. Such as....All FTD's, I have each and every sounboard that is available (the new one called El Goes El Paso is on the way) and good sounding audience recordings. By that I mean if Elvis is talking to the audience and I cannot clearly understand what he is saying...I don't want it. I now have about 200 audience recorded shows but the quality is good to excellent. My main interests are FTD, sounboard concerts, recording sessions and rehearsals, and top notch audience recorded shows. I guess I have somewhere around 400 CD's in all. Quality over quantity is what I prefer. Now you know.....the rest of the story.
MISSCLAWDY
12-31-2004, 08:06 AM
I'd Like To Buy Everything!!!everything About Elvis!!! :d But My Limit Is My Budget :'( And I Try Not To Buy The Same Thing Twice Or More....i Said I Try..!!!!!!! ;)
Albert
12-31-2004, 08:31 AM
Perhaps, when I have a room where I have my PC, my cd's and Elvis books, I'd like to buy one (or more) of those framed golden records/EP's that are on sale at Elvis.com. Those things look real classy and nostalgic.
Original movieposters is also something that I'd like to have :cool:
P.S. Annie
01-01-2005, 03:35 AM
My main goal is the music. Love the FTD's, boxsets espacially the ones with outtakes. Like to have good sounding concerts. I buy a Dvd once in awhile. And love to read about the man. (y) I make wishlists of books/dvds/cds, and I keep updating them, take stuff of but mostly put some new on. :lol:
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