"official" Graceland development thread

[EDOEP]

ROFLMBO your priceless my friend! :D:D

our pigs are educated. they CAN fly (y)!

good question, where did CKX_EPE go? either the admins decided to bid him farewell ...:hmm:. or he realised us plain ol' folks are not yet ready for 'masterplans' :peace:. or maybe my hint about legal problems for 'impostors' did work? then albert owes me a beer :P.

what do you like to say?
'ROFLMBO'

hugs, ellie

[EDOEP]

EPE_CKX went flyin' past the window :D



...just to clarify the above statement, with this brilliant sentance:

"honni soit qui mal y pense!"

;)

[ksimms2]

well I didn't read all the bickering back and forth.......this falls into that "if you don't like the thread - don't post" category.

I guess Jay (EP75) is excited about the new plans.....so he keeps sharing what he hears or finds out - nothing wrong with that.

Thanks for sharing Jay......I'm with the "I'll just wait and see" folks myself....but I appreciate you keeping us posted.

[CKX_EPE]

LOL Some of you take things way too serious. IT WAS A JOKE, GET IT? I can't believe some of you even waisted your breath to reply to this. What a bunch of jokes. Do you honoestly think EPE or CKX would actually come here to a forum? Get real. To them it's all about money and that's all it will ever be about. And yes they are about to build an amusement park, a casino, a water park, and an Elvis statue with mouse ears on it at the front entrance to Garceland. You guys are in for a BIG treat.:)

[ksimms2]

LOL Some of you take things way too serious. IT WAS A JOKE, GET IT? I can't believe some of you even waisted your breath to reply to this. What a bunch of jokes. Do you honoestly think EPE or CKX would actually come here to a forum? Get real. To them it's all about money and that's all it will ever be about. And yes they are about to build an amusement park, a casino, a water park, and an Elvis statue with mouse ears on it at the front entrance to Garceland. You guys are in for a BIG treat.:)

sorry..my comment wasn't even directed at anything you wrote about...in case you are talking to me....I skipped over all the drama and went straight to the end.....thanks.

[CKX_EPE]

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the *****s who take stuff way too serious. They know who they are and so does everyone else. They have fun at my expense so I thought i wuld have fun at theirs for once.:) And yes I am Jay, EP75.

[ksimms2]

Yes I know what you mean, I feel that way to but won't elaborate as we ea. have our own opinion, etc...

K I'll say this:
To commemorate or do a remembrance is one thing, but to full out celebrate as if he were still alive, cake and all, imo is just not right.

Suzan, I don't think anything is wrong with that....Elvis loved his birthday, celebrating, Christmas, etc. He would have loved it.....now I don't do this for my deceased relatives myself.....but then again.....they weren't the King of Rock and Roll....

[EDOEP]

LOL Some of you take things way too serious. IT WAS A JOKE, GET IT? I can't believe some of you even waisted your breath to reply to this. What a bunch of jokes. Do you honoestly think EPE or CKX would actually come here to a forum? Get real. To them it's all about money and that's all it will ever be about. And yes they are about to build an amusement park, a casino, a water park, and an Elvis statue with mouse ears on it at the front entrance to Garceland. You guys are in for a BIG treat.:)

sweetie,

YOU didn't get it! obviously ....

first: nobody believed that, of course not. dream on. just trying to be polite.

second: you like to give the impression in your previous posting of actually being a spokesperson for a company.

this can bring you trouble (nobody would care).

it might mean trouble for albert and the forum though - and that would be sad enough, IMHO.

so since nobody cares a sh** about you - we do care (or at least some of us do) about albert & the board.

period.

now go back to your little corner and continue playing in your sandpit.

[utmom2008]

Thanks for the info. Ellie! (y)

It sounds like I wasn't too far off in my thoughts on Jerry, from your point of view! With your endorsement along with my having the opportunity to meet Jerry in Memphis in 2000 and finding out just how nice of a guy he was in person, now I will definitely have to find time to read it! :D

Thanks again!
TCB!
Mike
Were you talking to me or to Ellie?? :lol::lol: About the endorsement of the book?? :D:D

[Diane]

You will enjoy Jerry's book Mike. I have and read it. I was only a little bit disappointed in not learning much new but what could there be anyhow. Jerry was very respectful about Elvis and the book was nicely written.

I'm also looking forward to George's....for the same reason.:)

Diane

[utmom2008]

I was only a little bit disappointed in not learning much new but what could there be anyhow. Jerry was very respectful about Elvis and the book was nicely written.

You are correct Diane! There wasn't really anything new, yet the stories had a little less sting to them. Just how you would want a real friend to remember things. :D:D

[EDOEP]

Were you talking to me or to Ellie?? :lol::lol: About the endorsement of the book?? :D:D

i think mike only mistyped, rosanne!

N O T that he might imply the two of us are only one of us with several nicks :lol:

hugs to myself :P

ellie

[utmom2008]

N O T that he might imply the two of us are only one of us with several nicks :lol:

hugs to myself :P

ellie

Thank goodness we know that we are not one and the same...;) We only need one nick.....:D:D

[Albert]

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the *****s who take stuff way too serious. They know who they are and so does everyone else. They have fun at my expense so I thought i wuld have fun at theirs for once.:) And yes I am Jay, EP75.

using multiple accounts by one member isn't allowed. Just use your EP75 account instead. This current CKX account will be deleted.

All post about this issue have been deleted since they're off-topic.

[KPM]

Yeah, or the ads that say things like "Three years ago today, you left us grandma ... the sadness never fades" etc. I just don't get it.

And the Elvis ones every January and August. We get heaps of them even here in Sydney every year.

Simply bewildering to me ...
IMO Thats like the funeral itself-its not for the dead person, the funeral is for the living. Those type ads are for the person putting them in the paper. I guess it makes them feel theres still a connection to the dead friend or relative.

[KPM]

Yes I know what you mean, I feel that way to but won't elaborate as we ea. have our own opinion, etc...

K I'll say this:
To commemorate or do a remembrance is one thing, but to full out celebrate as if he were still alive, cake and all, imo is just not right.
If I attend I want cake.:D:D

[Diane]

LOL, I'd want cake too. I don't understand these newspaper write-ups on one's deceased one's birthdays with pics and such either but to each his own. My way is just to remember them fondly on their birthdays.

Diane

[presley31]

Suzan, I don't think anything is wrong with that....Elvis loved his birthday, celebrating, Christmas, etc. He would have loved it.....now I don't do this for my deceased relatives myself.....but then again.....they weren't the King of Rock and Roll....

l agree l didn't see nothing wrong with the birthday cake either, wish l was there to enjoy a piece.:D

[utmom2008]

Suzan, I don't think anything is wrong with that....Elvis loved his birthday, celebrating, Christmas, etc. He would have loved it.....now I don't do this for my deceased relatives myself.....but then again.....they weren't the King of Rock and Roll....
I have tried to look at it that way, but every time I end up kind of shaking my head. Daddy's birthday was December 17th.....I think if I had baked him cake that my family would think I had gone crazy. :lol: Also...when I speak about someone's B-day that is no longer living I always say today "was" their B-day, not today "is" their B-day.....:D

[keke23]

Woa, why was my post/article deleted but all the other OT crap left?:hmm::hmm::hmm:(n):angry:

[EDOEP]

Woa, why was my post/article deleted but all the other OT crap left?:hmm::hmm::hmm:(n):angry:

for a good reason???:hmm:

[Frankieg]

Woa, why was my post/article deleted but all the other OT crap left?:hmm::hmm::hmm:(n):angry:

Lakeisha, ur avatar pic is simply beautiful !!! (y)

I'm glad u decided to stay, visit and participate on the board.

[Suzan]

Woa, why was my post/article deleted but all the other OT crap left?:hmm::hmm::hmm:(n):angry:

I thought EP75 made this thread, what article did you post, I'm getting so confused....lol

[Suzan]

If I attend I want cake.:D:D

LOL :lmfao::D

[keke23]

I thought EP75 made this thread, what article did you post, I'm getting so confused....lol

If you could read you'd know I said it was deleted. The mods deleted it for some reason.

I posted an article from our local Memphis Flyer that talked about EPE investin $250M to the area but the a souvenir store was in the way of makin it happen.

[ksimms2]

If you culd read you'd know I said it was deleted. The mods deleted it for some reason.

I posted an article from our local Memphis Flyer that talked about EPE investin $250M to the area but the a souvenir store was in the way of makin it happen.

Lakeisha, I read the same article, I thought "Elvis News" posted another thread - maybe they moved it over there?

Nice pic by the way....(y)

[keke23]

After readin yesterday's article in the Flyer, I was discouraged by a few things.

1.The constant same repeated comments by EPE/Sillerman and the media. We all know about the hotels, VC, etc. My problem is they keep draggin on and on about how they wanna do this and that. But they aint doin nothin but talk. They need to take Elvis' advice....a little less conversation, and a little more action PLEASE!!

They need to put their money where their mouth is and make it happen instead of just talkin about it.

2.The fact that NOTHIN has happened yet, and next month makes it 2 full years since they made the first announcement for the revamp. This shouldn't have taken 2 years to get this far. They are SLOW in business decision makin.

3.After all this time, they still aint shown a single drawing or layout of what it'll look like. And they wonder why some of yall are pissed? Maybe if they showed a drawing or somethin to ensure the fans that nothin would be changin to the house, yall might not be so mad at what they're plannin.

Yall know I support the plans 100%. Mostly because it benefits my former hood and would be a monster impact on the entire Memphis economy. But I'm not on the "Sillerman is God" bandwagon yet. He's not done anything to make me see him as a "genius", sorry Jay.

I'm still skeptical and worried that in the end, all of this will be just talk and no bark from Sillerman.

Memphis has been screwed over so many times by folks like him. Especially outsiders.

My source has confirmed to me many times not to worry that this will happen. But since December, his tone has changed a lil bit. He now says it all depends on how much EPE and Sillerman ask the city and state for financially and do to fix up EPB. He told me that if for some reason the CC denies it and this all falls through, that it could be a detrimental blow to the city, economy and to the future of Graceland as we know it. It's very important, in so many ways, that this all becomes realistic and not a fantasy.

Plus, I heard that Sillerman is about to turn all his attention and focus on Vegas and an Elvis themed hotel and casino in a few months.

But I'm still skeptical about the plans here. Mainly because nothin has happened yet, in 2 years at that! It's been too long. They need to move some dirt fast.:mad:

Once I hear the CC say "we approve the Graceland plans" and see bulldozers down at the site and dirt turinin......then I'll be less skeptical and more optimistic.

But I can't feel optimistic about this project just yet.:'(

[keke23]

Lakeisha, I read the same article, I thought "Elvis News" posted another thread - maybe they moved it over there?

Nice pic by the way....(y)

Thanks.:)

Some folks on here been questioning my sex, so I thought I'd set the record straight.:lol:

[ksimms2]

After readin yesterday's article in the Flyer, I was discouraged by a few things.

1.The constant same repeated comments by EPE/Sillerman and the media. We all know about the hotels, VC, etc. My problem is they keep draggin on and on about how they wanna do this and that. But they aint doin nothin but talk. They need to take Elvis' advice....a little less conversation, and a little more action PLEASE!!

They need to put their money where their mouth is and make it happen instead of just talkin about it.

2.The fact that NOTHIN has happened yet, and next month makes it 2 full years since they made the first announcement for the revamp. This shouldn't have taken 2 years to get this far. They are SLOW in business decision makin.

3.After all this time, they still aint shown a single drawing or layout of what it'll look like. And they wonder why some of yall are pissed? Maybe if they showed a drawing or somethin to ensure the fans that nothin would be changin to the house, yall might not be so mad at what they're plannin.

Yall know I support the plans 100%. Mostly because it benefits my former hood and would be a monster impact on the entire Memphis economy. But I'm not on the "Sillerman is God" bandwagon yet. He's not done anything to make me see him as a "genius", sorry Jay.

I'm still skeptical and worried that in the end, all of this will be just talk and no bark from Sillerman.

Memphis has been screwed over so many times by folks like him. Especially outsiders.

My source has confirmed to me many times not to worry that this will happen. But since December, his tone has changed a lil bit. He now says it all depends on how much EPE and Sillerman ask the city and state for financially and do to fix up EPB. He told me that if for some reason the CC denies it and this all falls through, that it could be a detrimental blow to the city, economy and to the future of Graceland as we know it. It's very important, in so many ways, that this all becomes realistic and not a fantasy.

Plus, I heard that Sillerman is about to turn all his attention and focus on Vegas and an Elvis themed hotel and casino in a few months.

But I'm still skeptical about the plans here. Mainly because nothin has happened yet, in 2 years at that! It's been too long. They need to move some dirt fast.:mad:

Once I hear the CC say "we approve the Graceland plans" and see bulldozers down at the site and dirt turinin......then I'll be less skeptical and more optimistic.

But I can't feel optimistic about this project just yet.:'(

Yep! You hit the nail on the head! They keep talking but nothing has happened yet -that is why most of us say we'll just wait and see and we don't get involved in these posts because nothing has happened. I still don't know how I feel about it - I know the area around Graceland sure needs sprucing up - I'd hate to see them tear down Heartbreak Hotel though - I like the Elvis themed Hotel - unless the new one will be as well.

[EP75]

After readin yesterday's article in the Flyer, I was discouraged by a few things.

1.The constant same repeated comments by EPE/Sillerman and the media. We all know about the hotels, VC, etc. My problem is they keep draggin on and on about how they wanna do this and that. But they aint doin nothin but talk. They need to take Elvis' advice....a little less conversation, and a little more action PLEASE!!

They need to put their money where their mouth is and make it happen instead of just talkin about it.

2.The fact that NOTHIN has happened yet, and next month makes it 2 full years since they made the first announcement for the revamp. This shouldn't have taken 2 years to get this far. They are SLOW in business decision makin.

3.After all this time, they still aint shown a single drawing or layout of what it'll look like. And they wonder why some of yall are pissed? Maybe if they showed a drawing or somethin to ensure the fans that nothin would be changin to the house, yall might not be so mad at what they're plannin.

Yall know I support the plans 100%. Mostly because it benefits my former hood and would be a monster impact on the entire Memphis economy. But I'm not on the "Sillerman is God" bandwagon yet. He's not done anything to make me see him as a "genius", sorry Jay.

I'm still skeptical and worried that in the end, all of this will be just talk and no bark from Sillerman.

Memphis has been screwed over so many times by folks like him. Especially outsiders.

My source has confirmed to me many times not to worry that this will happen. But since December, his tone has changed a lil bit. He now says it all depends on how much EPE and Sillerman ask the city and state for financially and do to fix up EPB. He told me that if for some reason the CC denies it and this all falls through, that it could be a detrimental blow to the city, economy and to the future of Graceland as we know it. It's very important, in so many ways, that this all becomes realistic and not a fantasy.

Plus, I heard that Sillerman is about to turn all his attention and focus on Vegas and an Elvis themed hotel and casino in a few months.

But I'm still skeptical about the plans here. Mainly because nothin has happened yet, in 2 years at that! It's been too long. They need to move some dirt fast.:mad:

Once I hear the CC say "we approve the Graceland plans" and see bulldozers down at the site and dirt turinin......then I'll be less skeptical and more optimistic.

But I can't feel optimistic about this project just yet.:'(

Interesting. I know that you and I have had little tag-team sessions by email over this and you were always telling me that you were in Bob Sillerman's corner and that he was great for EP. So what happened? Why the change of heart all of a sudden? Anyhow I do agree that there has been a lot of talk and no action YET. But that does not mean that this thing will continue to drag out like it has. For one thing, I read that article you were talking of. The one that said Follow That $250 Million Dream. It seemed to me that things were moving right along according to that article. The only small and I do mean small hold up would be the selfish and stubborn owners of the Elvis shop there by Graceland refusing to give up their land. But FXS is a billionaire. They will lose out in court once FXS gets the land and puts them out of business for good. Then they will be deservingly broke. You said yourself that this project was GUARANTEED to happen and a DONE DEAL once it got support from the city officials which it already did. Do you not feel that way anymore? What has happened to change your mind on this? I am not coming down on you either. I am simply asking why you have changed your views is all?

By the way, that picture in your avatar is BREATHTAKINGLY GORGEOUS!!!!:):D(y):notworthy:flowers:

[Suzan]

If you could read you'd know I said it was deleted. The mods deleted it for some reason.

I posted an article from our local Memphis Flyer that talked about EPE investin $250M to the area but the a souvenir store was in the way of makin it happen.

Honey I can read...:D That article is in News section.

Nice pic ;) LOL

Photoshop, I love that program.

[presley31]

Yep! You hit the nail on the head! They keep talking but nothing has happened yet -that is why most of us say we'll just wait and see and we don't get involved in these posts because nothing has happened. I still don't know how I feel about it - I know the area around Graceland sure needs sprucing up - I'd hate to see them tear down Heartbreak Hotel though - I like the Elvis themed Hotel - unless the new one will be as well.

l agree kelly, we just have to wait and and see

great picture to Lakeisha:)

[keke23]

Interesting. I know that you and I have had little tag-team sessions by email over this and you were always telling me that you were in Bob Sillerman's corner and that he was great for EP. So what happened? Why the change of heart all of a sudden? Anyhow I do agree that there has been a lot of talk and no action YET. But that does not mean that this thing will continue to drag out like it has. For one thing, I read that article you were talking of. The one that said Follow That $250 Million Dream. It seemed to me that things were moving right along according to that article. The only small and I do mean small hold up would be the selfish and stubborn owners of the Elvis shop there by Graceland refusing to give up their land. But FXS is a billionaire. They will lose out in court once FXS gets the land and puts them out of business for good. Then they will be deservingly broke. You said yourself that this project was GUARANTEED to happen and a DONE DEAL once it got support from the city officials which it already did. Do you not feel that way anymore? What has happened to change your mind on this? I am not coming down on you either. I am simply asking why you have changed your views is all?

By the way, that picture in your avatar is BREATHTAKINGLY GORGEOUS!!!!:):D(y):notworthy:flowers:

Jay, I know you and I talked about this in private. but things have changed a lil bit.

What happened is, from my source, is that Sillerman is gonna fund 3/4 of the project. But he wants the city to fund for infrastructure and that could be in the high millions, and this city is broke as it is and may not be able to fund what he needs.

If that happens, then Sillerman would have to go to a plan B and downscale his plans to fit the city funding budget.

If that happens, then it most likely wouldn't be as big as originally planned and that could hurt more than help.

I do know one thing, and it's not good. Sillerman told the CC a complete different story than what Soden, LMP and Cilla have told. So in other words, each are tellin the media 4 different stories.


I'm not as confident as I was in August.

I'm now hearin that the groundbreakin may not happen for months because of the ongoin legal issues with the souvenir shop.

Like I said, I'll be more optimistic once I see bulldozers at Graceland.

Jay, you don't live here. This city is fallin apart.:(

Our mayor is now bein investigated by the FBI for illegal stuff.

The Pyramid is in a scandal as well.

And Graceland area is becomin worse by the day. Crime is gettin bad in some parts of Whitehaven.

EPE just don't want nobody to know that. But that's why they're askin the city for a hand load of funding for the area so that crime will be gone.

But the city aint done nothin to this point to stop it, so what should make me think they will now?

And thanks for the sweet compliments on my pic.:)

[keke23]

l agree kelly, we just have to wait and and see

great picture to Lakeisha:)

Thanks girl.:)

[keke23]

Honey I can read...:D That article is in News section.

Nice pic ;) LOL

Photoshop, I love that program.

Photoshop.....ROTFLMBAO

In your dreams.

You just wish it was photoshop.

I don't see you postin your pic on here.

And for the record, this aint the first time I posted pics of me.

Ask the guys at the collectors forum, they'll remember.

Oh and btw, read my siggi. Because right now, your hatin because you can't comete with me. lmbao :)

Holla

[rocknroll]

Photoshop.....ROTFLMBAO

In your dreams.

You just wish it was photoshop.

I don't see you postin your pic on here.

And for the record, this aint the first time I posted pics of me.

Ask the guys at the collectors forum, they'll remember.

Oh and btw, read my siggi. Because right now, your hatin because you can't comete with me. lmbao :)

Holla

I'm reading your sig and I don't get it. "God me the way I am"???? What does that mean?

[EP75]

Jay, I know you and I talked about this in private. but things have changed a lil bit.

What happened is, from my source, is that Sillerman is gonna fund 3/4 of the project. But he wants the city to fund for infrastructure and that could be in the high millions, and this city is broke as it is and may not be able to fund what he needs.

If that happens, then Sillerman would have to go to a plan B and downscale his plans to fit the city funding budget.

If that happens, then it most likely wouldn't be as big as originally planned and that could hurt more than help.

I do know one thing, and it's not good. Sillerman told the CC a complete different story than what Soden, LMP and Cilla have told. So in other words, each are tellin the media 4 different stories.


I'm not as confident as I was in August.

I'm now hearin that the groundbreakin may not happen for months because of the ongoin legal issues with the souvenir shop.

Like I said, I'll be more optimistic once I see bulldozers at Graceland.

Jay, you don't live here. This city is fallin apart.:(

Our mayor is now bein investigated by the FBI for illegal stuff.

The Pyramid is in a scandal as well.

And Graceland area is becomin worse by the day. Crime is gettin bad in some parts of Whitehaven.

EPE just don't want nobody to know that. But that's why they're askin the city for a hand load of funding for the area so that crime will be gone.

But the city aint done nothin to this point to stop it, so what should make me think they will now?

And thanks for the sweet compliments on my pic.:)

I understand now and I got your email. And you are very welcome.;)

[EP75]

Photoshop.....ROTFLMBAO

In your dreams.

You just wish it was photoshop.

I don't see you postin your pic on here.

And for the record, this aint the first time I posted pics of me.

Ask the guys at the collectors forum, they'll remember.

Oh and btw, read my siggi. Because right now, your hatin because you can't comete with me. lmbao :)

Holla


Ignore her Lakeisha. She's only trying to get you to fight with her (as she does me) so you will get banned. She's not worth it. I have been told to just ignore her myself.

[Johnny]

Has nobody here heard of private messages?? :doh:

[utmom2008]

Has nobody here heard of private messages?? :doh:
:lol::lol::lol::lol: Good question Jth! (y)

[Johnny]

I have two question for you Lakeisha,,don't flare up and get mad because they are genuine. OK?

1. Are we supposed to use "racial" references? You always seem to do that, yet us "white" people will be reported if we constantly remind you that we are white.
2. What exactly does "Holla" mean? That's a new for me I guess..:hmm:

These are good questions as well (y); you could have also asked about the "yall", but sadly most know what it means - even though it isn't proper english, neither in speech nor in writing

[EP75]

Lakeisha-count from 10-1. It will release the stress. LOL

[EP75]

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Good question Jth! (y)

If it is soo good, then why didn't you just reply to him in a PM? Hmmm

[Johnny]

If it is soo good, then why didn't you just reply to him in a PM? Hmmm

I can't speak for her, but perhaps because of the same reason you didn't pm Lakeisha

[utmom2008]

If it is soo good, then why didn't you just reply to him in a PM? Hmmm
I guess for the same reasons that he didn't reply to my post in a PM. Free speech and all that, you know? :lol: Soooooooo typical, I ask a legitimate question that us "white folks wuz wonderin bout" and you make something out of it. :lol: ;);)

[utmom2008]

I can't speak for her, but perhaps because of the same reason you didn't pm Lakeisha
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[rebby]

hi, does anyone know, when exactly all these changes are supposed to be happening??

it's just that im concerned, because I have just booked a trip to memphis for july 08, and I don't want to arrive to find the heartbreak hotel (where im staying) in the process of being torn down!, or indeed, the visitors centre!

I am quite interested to see the changes they do eventually make, just so long as Graceland remains Elvis' home! not just a house, where Elvis used to live!

please shed some light!

TCB :king:

[utmom2008]

hi, does anyone know, when exactly all these changes are supposed to be happening??

it's just that im concerned, because I have just booked a trip to memphis for july 08, and I don't want to arrive to find the heartbreak hotel (where im staying) in the process of being torn down!, or indeed, the visitors centre!

I am quite interested to see the changes they do eventually make, just so long as Graceland remains Elvis' home! not just a house, where Elvis used to live!

please shed some light!

TCB :king:
I don't really know, but I'm betting that in July nothing will be any different than it is today. :hmm:

[presley31]

hi, does anyone know, when exactly all these changes are supposed to be happening??

it's just that im concerned, because I have just booked a trip to memphis for july 08, and I don't want to arrive to find the heartbreak hotel (where im staying) in the process of being torn down!, or indeed, the visitors centre!

I am quite interested to see the changes they do eventually make, just so long as Graceland remains Elvis' home! not just a house, where Elvis used to live!

.
please shed some light!

TCB :king:

according to some that were at elvis birthday,its been said there going to be changes ( not graceland itself), but not sure when though.

[utmom2008]

But I'm not on the "Sillerman is God" bandwagon yet. He's not done anything to make me see him as a "genius", sorry Jay.

I'm still skeptical and worried that in the end, all of this will be just talk and no bark from Sillerman.

Smart thinking on your part. ;););)

[presley31]

I sent a email to EPE about those changes and when this is going to happen. post when they get back to me

[EP75]

Nobody, including the sources from Memphis (Lakeisha and her friend who seems to have ties to the city council) seem to know when these changes are going to accur. I am just speculating here but I do believe that they will begin sometime this year. Possibly by summer (June or July) at the latest. However I do not think that Heartbreak hotel will be closed or demolished by that time. I think they will keep it remained open for at least until after January Elvis Week 2009 to milk out as much cash as they can. Then they will probably shut it down and bull doze it to make room for a much bigger and better luxury hotel. One thing that is needed badly in that area is more hotels. There is only the Heartbreak Hotel and Days Inn worth staying at in that part of town. The plans do call for at least 3 new luxury hotels.

[EP75]

I sent a email to EPE about those changes and when this is going to happen. post when they get back to me
Good luck. I am betting that their answer will be something like "please follow our news section on our website for further information". They do not want us to know something for some reason.:hmm:

[keke23]

hi, does anyone know, when exactly all these changes are supposed to be happening??

it's just that im concerned, because I have just booked a trip to memphis for july 08, and I don't want to arrive to find the heartbreak hotel (where im staying) in the process of being torn down!, or indeed, the visitors centre!

I am quite interested to see the changes they do eventually make, just so long as Graceland remains Elvis' home! not just a house, where Elvis used to live!

please shed some light!

TCB :king:

I think a lot will depend on how much EPE asks the city and state for financially, and the pending lawsuit with the souvenir store.

IMO, the longer this drags out, the more I feel it could fall through and end up bein downscaled to just a hotel, new visitor's center and museum.

As it is now, they're plannin much bigger things than just that, that'll impact our city like never before. That's why this needs to happen.

[presley31]

Good luck. I am betting that their answer will be something like "please follow our news section on our website for further information". They do not want us to know something for some reason.:hmm:

yep thats most likey right even though its 2006 when it was wrote.

[Suzan]

And one of the city councelmen (see my post in the ZippinPippin) will no longer be there...
But since perhaps the other still is, why not release what's been discusses so far? Even if EPE won't, if you have inside info and are alluding to it, please elaborate.:)

[Gerianne]

hi, does anyone know, when exactly all these changes are supposed to be happening??

it's just that im concerned, because I have just booked a trip to memphis for july 08, and I don't want to arrive to find the heartbreak hotel (where im staying) in the process of being torn down!, or indeed, the visitors centre!

I am quite interested to see the changes they do eventually make, just so long as Graceland remains Elvis' home! not just a house, where Elvis used to live!

please shed some light!

TCB :king:

I have a booking in August 2008 in the Heartbreak. I don't think you should have anything to worry about because the tour company that I travel with have advanced bookings in this hotel and if there had been any changes, they wouldn't have booked this hotel for us. So I really don't think you should worry about it. I even heard before that they will keep the Heartbreak there until the new hotel is built, then demolish it.

[Getlo]

So, what happened to this? This is from 10th April 2006 ... ;)

"A guy I know who knows I'm a big Elvis fan, who lives near downtown told me that he heard through sources that L.C. Humes Junior High could be renamed ELVIS A. PRESLEY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL as early as this summer, plus plans to re-renovate the school are in the works as well.

Plus, Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, Shelby County Mayor AC Wharton, and members of the school board are pushing for an Elvis Appreciation Day for ALL schools throughout Memphis and Shelby County to be in affect by next summer. And from what I hear it's possible that August the 16th could be a day out of school for ALL Memphis and Shelby County students as part of that Appreciation day.

This is big for Elvis in Memphis considering that the school system is 80% black students in the city and about 25% in the county.

This could be the biggest news yet for Elvis! Wait until the media gets this news. It'll be all over the world news and talked about for months to come. This is goin to be HUGE!! It's one thing to have your home registered as a national landmark. But it's even a bigger thing to have a school named after you."

[keke23]

So, what happened to this? This is from 10th April 2006 ... ;)

"A guy I know who knows I'm a big Elvis fan, who lives near downtown told me that he heard through sources that L.C. Humes Junior High could be renamed ELVIS A. PRESLEY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL as early as this summer, plus plans to re-renovate the school are in the works as well.

Plus, Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, Shelby County Mayor AC Wharton, and members of the school board are pushing for an Elvis Appreciation Day for ALL schools throughout Memphis and Shelby County to be in affect by next summer. And from what I hear it's possible that August the 16th could be a day out of school for ALL Memphis and Shelby County students as part of that Appreciation day.

This is big for Elvis in Memphis considering that the school system is 80% black students in the city and about 25% in the county.

This could be the biggest news yet for Elvis! Wait until the media gets this news. It'll be all over the world news and talked about for months to come. This is goin to be HUGE!! It's one thing to have your home registered as a national landmark. But it's even a bigger thing to have a school named after you."


Yeah, the Elvis Presley Middle School renamin proposal fell through.

I think race played a part.

I even mentioned this back on E1 later.

Plus, notice I said "could happen", not that it was a done deal.

[keke23]

And one of the city councelmen (see my post in the ZippinPippin) will no longer be there...
But since perhaps the other still is, why not release what's been discusses so far? Even if EPE won't, if you have inside info and are alluding to it, please elaborate.:)


There's 4 members remain from the last CC on the new CC. 9 new members. Barbara Swearingen who worked with LMP on Presley Place is still on.

The last CC meetin back in December was to show full support for the expansion plans.

It was meant to make it easier on the new CC concernin the Graceland plans.

As for my inside source, everything I know I've already told.

[keke23]

I just got a text message on my phone from my friend replyin to my question I snet him.

I text him about the long wait and holdup with EPE, why it's takin so long for the groundbreakin.

He said it's got to do more with the lawsuit with the souvenir store than EPE draggin their feet.

The store is sittin right where the new VC will go.

They can't do nothin until the suit is either dropped or settled out of court.

So those stingy folks are the ones holdin all this up, not EPE.:hmm:

[Tommy]

Please stay on topic. Discussing race is not part of this thread.

Thank you.

[KPM]

It will play out-as time and circumstance dictate. It is a million miles down my list of true worries.
I'm sure even those involved realized it would not be quick, not be as easy as they wished, and that it would hit many snags and bumps along that were unforeseen.

[EP75]

I just got a text message on my phone from my friend replyin to my question I snet him.

I text him about the long wait and holdup with EPE, why it's takin so long for the groundbreakin.

He said it's got to do more with the lawsuit with the souvenir store than EPE draggin their feet.

The store is sittin right where the new VC will go.

They can't do nothin until the suit is either dropped or settled out of court.

So those stingy folks are the ones holdin all this up, not EPE.:hmm:

Don't worry. Bob Sillerman will get HIS WAY on this and those selfish so-called fans will lose everything and they deserve to.:)(y)

[utmom2008]

It is a million miles down my list of true worries.

That may be the best post all day.....(y);)(y)

[Frankieg]

Don't worry. Bob Sillerman will get HIS WAY on this and those selfish so-called fans will lose everything and they deserve to.:)(y)

First of all, you know nothing about nothing Jay ...

Second, calling other Elvis fans "selfish" and hoping they "lose everything" is plain ignorant, not too mention arrogant and childish on your part.

[Tommy]

Is there some type of secret code going on here that I can't see? Who was discussing race?:huh: All I saw was discussions about the TOPIC which is about the Graceland redevelopment. If anyone got off topic it was Getlo for bringing something from the past and from another forum (which is supposed to be a violation of the rules to beguin with).:hmm:

The post in question has been deleted.

[EP75]

First of all, you know nothing about nothing Jay ...

Second, calling other Elvis fans "selfish" and hoping they "lose everything" is plain ignorant, not too mention arrogant and childish on your part.

When will you grow up ???
For your information, they are NOT real fans. They are selfish money seeking jerks who are using EP's name to make a living and to sell their merchandise.(n) EPE deserves the right to shut them down as they did other private ran souvenir shops.

I do know something. I know money talks and Bob Sillerman (a multi-billionaire)has enough to make it speak loud volumes.:lol: Also Bob Sillerman owns the naming rights. So they are illegally violating the law. And they will LOSE in the court of law and lose everything rightfully so.(y)
They should have given up while they had a chance. It's their loss (and a big one) and Bob's gain.:D

[EP75]

The post in question has been deleted.
Good! For a second I thought I was going insane and seeing things that were not there.:lol:

[jak]

" EPE deserves the right to shut them down as they did other private ran souvenir shops"

Shutting down those shops was an act of pure stupitidy.Some of those places had been around for a long time.They developed somewhat of a relationship with the fans.Many of the people who have gone to Graceland for many years were upset at this greedy action.Some of those places added to the experience of going.EPE is just a cash hungry monster constanty trying to feed it's own hunger.Sillerman is no different.He's not the savior of Elvis' legacy either.Elvis doesnt need him or anybody else to ensure he wont be forgotten.
Jak

[utmom2008]

" EPE deserves the right to shut them down as they did other private ran souvenir shops"

Shutting down those shops was an act of pure stupitidy.Some of those places had been around for a long time.They developed somewhat of a relationship with the fans.Many of the people who have gone to Graceland for many years were upset at this greedy action.Some of those places added to the experience of going.EPE is just a cash hungry monster constanty trying to feed it's own hunger.Sillerman is no different.He's not the savior of Elvis' legacy either.Elvis doesnt need him or anybody else to ensure he wont be forgotten.
Jak
Great post Jak. (y)(y) I remember being in one of those little shops in 88....Vester struck up a conversation with my hubs that we still talk about today. You couldn't get away from him. :lol: He talked on and on and on about how "bad" Lisa was and that she just needed her "butt busted." :lol: Then he wrote us a long note in his book he was selling. It was definetly part of the "charm" of the whole trip...:D:D

[jak]

Great post Jak. (y)(y) I remember being in one of those little shops in 88....Vester struck up a conversation with my hubs that we still talk about today. You couldn't get away from him. :lol: He talked on and on and on about how "bad" Lisa was and that she just needed her "butt busted." :lol: Then he wrote us a long note in his book he was selling. It was definetly part of the "charm" of the whole trip...:D:D

Your experience is what im talking about.I too and many others have some fond memories of the way things use to be.Sometimes progress isnt always good.

[Miss Clawdy]

" EPE deserves the right to shut them down as they did other private ran souvenir shops"

Shutting down those shops was an act of pure stupitidy.Some of those places had been around for a long time.They developed somewhat of a relationship with the fans.Many of the people who have gone to Graceland for many years were upset at this greedy action.Some of those places added to the experience of going.EPE is just a cash hungry monster constanty trying to feed it's own hunger.Sillerman is no different.He's not the savior of Elvis' legacy either.Elvis doesnt need him or anybody else to ensure he wont be forgotten.
Jak

This is the best post of the day (y)! Thank you :D!
I truly hope the last souvenir shop will win the battle (y)(y)(y)!

[EP75]

I don't mind gift shops as long as they are cooperative with the estate. But EPE (as much as I dislike their ways of business) they do have the right to shut down any non-profited business related to EP's name and selling. I don't agree with or support strangers making money off of EP.(n)(n)(n)

These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them.:mad:

[utmom2008]

These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them.:mad:

Not everyone feels that way...they may think that Bob Sillerman is the "stranger.":hmm::doh::hmm:

[jak]

"These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them."

Who are you to call these people *****s?If anybody is out for money it's EPE.Those small shops were owned by people just trying to make a living.They had employees trying to do the same.I cant feel to much sympathy for EPE.Now everybody can go to Graceland and pay a much higher price for their Elvis t shirts.Hooray for EPE.

[jak]

Not everyone feels that way...they may think that Bob Sillerman is the "stranger.":hmm::doh::hmm:

Exactly.Some shops were ran by fans that actually knew some of the customers who came every year.

[EP75]

Those small shops were owned by people just trying to make a living. They had employees trying to dooig the same thing

Exactly my very point. And it's wrong.(n)(n)(n)(n)

[Miss Clawdy]

I don't mind gift shops as long as they are cooperative with the estate.

Cooperative with the estate :supriced:??? Could you explain this to me, please?


But EPE (as much as I dislike their ways of business) they do have the right to shut down any non-profited business related to EP's name and selling. I don't agree with or support strangers making money off of EP.(n)(n)(n)

That's ok for EPE and BS because they own the 'name of EP'....:supriced:???


These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them.:mad:

Now who's wearing rose coloured glasses? Their existence deserves to be
ruined because people like BS can't come back for more money :supriced:???
Could you please give me the first letter of *****s, please :D?

[utmom2008]

Exactly my very point. And it's wrong.(n)(n)(n)(n)

Excuse me??????????? It's wrong for these people to try and make a decent living???????????? I believe that takes the cake....I've heard it all with that remark.(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)(n)( n)

[utmom2008]

MODERATORS. Do your job.


:lol::lol::lol::lol: Yes, please!!! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Diane]

For myself I'm tired of seeing small businesses being closed down by large corporations. Seems like no one can have their own small business anymore and that's not democratic.

Diane

[utmom2008]

For myself I'm tired of seeing small businesses being closed down by large corporations. Seems like no one can have their own small business anymore and that's not democratic.

Diane
You are very right Diane...I agree with you. Long time Memphis families and Elvis fans should go hungry so that BS and EPE can make billions more?? :hmm: Oh..I forget, BS wasn't a stranger to Elvis.....:lol::lol:

[Jungleroom76]

I don't mind gift shops as long as they are cooperative with the estate. But EPE (as much as I dislike their ways of business) they do have the right to shut down any non-profited business related to EP's name and selling. I don't agree with or support strangers making money off of EP.(n)(n)(n)

These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them.:mad:

Have to agree with you here EP75! (y)

The estate has the licensing rights to Elvis, and regardless of whether we fans always like how they market his name and likeness or not, they have the legal right to do it...and they have the right to stop unlicensed vendors from using his name and likeness...I believe "trademark infringement" is the appropriate term?? :hmm:

I'm certainly not against anyone, big or small, making a living. But in this case, the law is the law!! In any case, I certainly can't see them winning their case against EPE...

TCB!
Mike

[Suzan]

Fantastic post Jak.
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't AT&T get shut down for doing the same thing EPE has done?
Read England's ruling against EPE it makes a lot of sense and the U.S. courts should take notice.

[Elvis69]

HELLO EVERYONE!

Big Changes To Graceland Priscilla and Lisa Said their will be a Big Suprises in 2008 And Yes What a Big Suprise Graceland Has Been Sold To CKX, INC On Nov 11,2007 Lisa Marie Presley Has Sold Graceland To CKX, Inc Also They Now Own All Rights Over Elvis Music and DVD's They have 70 New Events Added for This Year Alone When :lmfao:Priscilla & Lisa For The First Time Had a B-Day Bash For Elvis Because It Will Be The Last Time They Will Be At Graceland
On Channel 3 News Website www.WREG.com (http://www.WREG.com) Has Posted That Lisa Has Sold To CKX, Inc This is a Big Suprise For Ever Elvis Fan Across The World How Will Elvis Fans Be Treated By Someone Else Owning Graceland? too.:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:


Before anyone criticizes me for posting this, I have to point out that this is old (from August 2007) but it's as clear of a picture as we have been given yet of the upcoming changes. I have highlighted the main points where Jack Soden talks about the new visitors center and hi-tech museum. Obviously this is going to be a park setting after all with a theme of museum. So in other words, it will be somewhat of a museum theme park without rides. Anyhow here is important parts of the story. Some of it Lakeisha already mentioned here and some were calling her a liar

Repackaging the Graceland experience, which will take years and $250 million, will include razing the cramped visitor center — located in a former strip mall across the street from the white-columned mansion — and replacing it with a facility roughly seven times the size of the King’s home.

“We’ll have really achieved something if they’re driving down Elvis Presley Boulevard, getting closer to this island, this campus, and they’re going, ‘We’re here. We can tell we’re here,’ ” he said. “And that’s going to take a lot of green space, and a lot of investment in the infrastructure of the street, the neighborhood.”

One of the first major changes to Graceland will be the closing and relocation of the current visitors’ center to the mansion side of Elvis Presley Boulevard, eliminating the noisy shuttle system that has been carrying fans across the busy street for years.

“The whole new visitor complex will be next to Graceland, but separated by the woods that are already there,” said Soden. “There will be new parking, walking into a gorgeous multi-functional building, then walking out of it and kind of a walk through the woods, and suddenly there is Graceland — and then touring Graceland, restored to exactly the way it was the way when Elvis lived there.”

After visitors tour the mansion, they will be led to a new facility housing high-tech Elvis exhibits, like the digital wizardry that allowed Elvis and Dion to perform together.

There’ll be “another walk through the woods to all-new exhibits — 4D entertainment experience, which is basically taking advantage of every audio-visual technology,” said Soden.

The existing 128-room Heartbreak Hotel will be razed and replaced by a much larger convention hotel, also on the mansion side of Elvis Presley Boulevard.

The side of the street that is currently home to the visitor center and Heartbreak Hotel would see “more hotels, more entertainment, food and beverage, retail, kind of a village,” Soden said.

Sillerman and Graceland officials have been working on the transformation plan for over a year.

So according to Soden there are going to be multiple facilities built next to Graceland in that wooded area (look on Google Earth) and the houses that are there now behind the woods must be the ones Lakeisha said Bob Silelerman recently purchased. I measured that land and space and it's approximately over 300-400 yards deep and 400 yards wide. That's half the size of Disney World, by the way.:hmm:

And one more thing-didn't EPE say that the current plaza would remain opened and not be interrupted? Well according to this article from Soden's mouth, it will be closed and removed. I would not be surprised now if Graceland closes down for a month or two in the future while this process is going on then re-open it as a new attraction. Notice Soden him self says it will be RESTORED to it's original form.:hmm:

Oh and what exactly does 4-D entertainment experience mean?:hmm:

I forgot about the hotel. They are now saying it will be built on the same side as Graceland and the new attractions. Then what the heck will be on across the street in that large 60+ acres of land where the hotel, plaza, and apartment complex behind the plaza sits?:supriced:

Here's the link to the whole article. http://www.goelvis.com/2007/08/11/elvis-the-original-american-idol/

[EP75]

HELLO EVERYONE!

Big Changes To Graceland Priscilla and Lisa Said their will be a Big Suprises in 2008 And Yes What a Big Suprise Graceland Has Been Sold To CKX, INC On Nov 11,2007 Lisa Marie Presley Has Sold Graceland To CKX, Inc Also They Now Own All Rights Over Elvis Music and DVD's They have 70 New Events Added for This Year Alone When :lmfao:Priscilla & Lisa For The First Time Had a B-Day Bash For Elvis Because It Will Be The Last Time They Will Be At Graceland
On Channel 3 News Website www.WREG.com Has Posted That Lisa Has Sold To CKX, Inc This is a Big Suprise For Ever Elvis Fan Across The World How Will Elvis Fans Be Treated By Someone Else Owning Graceland? too.:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

Looks like someone has had a little too much to drink tonight.:pepsi:

[utmom2008]

Looks like someone has had a little too much to drink tonight.:pepsi:
:lol: :lol: He came into the chatroom tonight and wanted to make this big announcement as well. We tried to tell him the "real" story, but he wouldn't listen to any of us. :lol:

[Getlo]

I think race played a part.

Yeah, sure ... ;)


These *****s that are causing trouble with the estate and refusing to give up their spot and business are just out for money and by suing EPE is indication of that. They deserve what is coming to them.:mad:

Absolute rubbish ...

EPE has been behaving like nazi stormtroopers these past few years, and it ha sonly increased since BS and his cronies took over. And it will get a lot worse.

The majority of the "unauthorised" shops sell better and more interesting stuff that Graceland or EPE ever did. There is one remaining shop down the road from the mansion ... I hope they stay there as long as they can - and stick right in BS's craw !


Second, calling other Elvis fans "selfish" and hoping they "lose everything" is plain ignorant, not too mention arrogant and childish on your part.

Right on ... ! (y)


Shutting down those shops was an act of pure stupitidy.Some of those places had been around for a long time.They developed somewhat of a relationship with the fans.Many of the people who have gone to Graceland for many years were upset at this greedy action.

Exactly.

Some ... and I say "some" ... of the younger fans have no idea how it was in the 70s and 80s, in terms of souvenirs and what was readily available.

Those days were better !


Exactly my very point. And it's wrong.(n)(n)(n)(n)

So it's wrong for people to own shops and try to make a living?

So, EPE misses out on a few bucks here and there.

Big deal!

I always buy any souvenirs and CDs etc from dealers not associated with EPE.


I'm certainly not against anyone, big or small, making a living. But in this case, the law is the law!! In any case, I certainly can't see them winning their case against EPE...

Yeah?

Tell that to Sid Shaw. He took on EPE - and Cilla directly - and won.

Although he sells some awful crap, Shaw is a legend in my book. (y)

[utmom2008]

Exactly.

Some ... and I say "some" ... of the younger fans have no idea how it was in the 70s and 80s, in terms of souvenirs and what was readily available.

Those days were better !
Agreed! (y) The good ole days.....long before the classy, wonderful masterpiece known as an "Elvis talking head" came into existence. ;););)

[Suzan]

Exactly.

Some ... and I say "some" ... of the younger fans have no idea how it was in the 70s and 80s, in terms of souvenirs and what was readily available.

Those days were better !

(y)(y) A thousand times over, better! I remember in 1978 and 1983 being able to obtain just about anything across the street, books, mags, etc...it was a smorgusboard and reasonably priced...not anymore.


Yeah?

Tell that to Sid Shaw. He took on EPE - and Cilla directly - and won.

Although he sells some awful crap, Shaw is a legend in my book. (y)

Right on! (y) I mentioned him as well, the U.S. courts should take notice of what the English court's said.

He may talk crap @ times, but NOBODY @ EPE, including Pris is denying what he has said...that speaks volumes. You know they'd go after him if he was making stuff up about them.

[ksimms2]

When I went to Memphis back in June - we stopped at the Memphis Visitors Center first and I bought the 30th anniversary purse there.....was cheaper than at Graceland. Then later on in the evening went to the local Walgreens on Elvis Presley Blvd and bought the matching wallet/checkbook - which was also cheaper than at Graceland.....still licensed by EPE just cheaper because it was not bought on the grounds of Graceland (by that I mean across the street at the visitors center)........don't get me wrong....I did also buy from visitors center too.....but the other places are cheaper.

[KPM]

In one way I do miss the amount of great things which were available in the 70's and 80's before the great push to stop unauthorized merchandise, as a fan.
But I can also see that if you make exceptions to the policy of no unauthorized merchandise You can set a legal prededent for others down the road.
I would probably be just as aggressive at protecting EPE rights if it were my responsibility. (Even the shops which have been there forever).
But EPE and Sillerman could work out deals with these shops for space in the new renovation proposals. They could also work out a merchandising deal which allows them to operate and not put them out of business all together. Good will is also an asset for any company including the business of Elvis.

[cameron]

In one way I do miss the amount of great things which were available in the 70's and 80's before the great push to stop unauthorized merchandise, as a fan.
But I can also see that if you make exceptions to the policy of no unauthorized merchandiseYou can set a legal prededent for others down the road.
I would probably be just as agressive at protecting EPE rights if it were my responsibility. (Even the shops which have been there forever).
But EPE and Sillerman could work out deals with these shops for space in the new renovation proposals. They could also work out a merchandising deal which allows them to operate and not put them out of business all together. Good will is also an asset for any company including the business of Elvis.

A fair- minded ,thought out compromise to be sure. ;)
EPE is in business to make money. IF it was my business; I'd need to protect it, as would anyone. If not; you'd soon be "out of business" .

I don't like a lot of "big business's " practice. But, to think they'd not protect their investment is not being realistic.
As some as said; change is coming .....is it progress ? You either have to compromise or be ran out of business. That's cold, hard facts in the business world...even in life .

[Diane]

I like your idea KPM.(y) Sounds more like a win-win situation to me.

Diane

[EP75]

In one way I do miss the amount of great things which were available in the 70's and 80's before the great push to stop unauthorized merchandise, as a fan.
But I can also see that if you make exceptions to the policy of no unauthorized merchandise You can set a legal prededent for others down the road.
I would probably be just as aggressive at protecting EPE rights if it were my responsibility. (Even the shops which have been there forever).
But EPE and Sillerman could work out deals with these shops for space in the new renovation proposals. They could also work out a merchandising deal which allows them to operate and not put them out of business all together. Good will is also an asset for any company including the business of Elvis.

I don't disagree with this at all. In fact I think it's a brilliant idea. However I don't see that happening. EPE is about "them" and not what they should consider. If it's not their idea then it does not happen. I figured this out when I sent them my idea for EP themed figurines and they never replied back. But I know one thing. If they try to use my idea down the road, then they can expect a lawsuit. I still have the email I sent them with my entire layout of how each one would look and be made as my proof.:D

But back to your idea-I agree that they should merge with the vendors and work together. They would get a profit that they don't get today off of the outside sales and the vendors would still get their share. Although I do have a problem with some making money off of EP that never knew him. Bob Sillerman is an exception ONLY because he bought the rights from Lisa. But these outsiders selling merchandise or souvenirs without legal permission, i don't agree with that.

If EP was my father, I wouldn't want strangers who didn't care who he was when he was alive selling things with his name on it.(n)

[Jungleroom76]

Yeah?

Tell that to Sid Shaw. He took on EPE - and Cilla directly - and won.

Although he sells some awful crap, Shaw is a legend in my book. (y)


Good point Getlo!! (y)

I actually had forgotten about him...I stand corrected! :blush:

TCB!
Mike

[EP75]

Sid Shaw was before EPE had a strong backing power too. And before the naming rights were in a billionaire's hands. The current lawsuit that has been filed will never stand up in court. Bob Sillerman owns EP's naming rights and that is where he will win outright.

[Getlo]

I figured this out when I sent them my idea for EP themed figurines and they never replied back. But I know one thing. If they try to use my idea down the road, then they can expect a lawsuit. I still have the email I sent them with my entire layout of how each one would look and be made as my proof.

And you would be laughed out of court. All they would have to do is say they had the idea for figurines all along, and produce any type of faked document. You would not have a leg to stand on. All you have is proof that an email was sent; not that it was received, read, distributed or acted upon.

And I don't think an idea for figurines - themed or otherwise - is in the least bit original, nor could one copywrite the idea.

It's like the FTDs.

I wrote an article - published in several notable Elvis publications - that RCA should start up a special collectors' label, separate from RCA. I suggested it could release concerts and outtakes and other material in limited numbers, not to the general public, so that fans who wanted that material could pay for it.

And when did I write this article?

1987.

I was the first to suggest this concept, at least in print.

Think I have a case to sue? ;) Not bloody likely!

[Frankieg]

And you would be laughed out of court. All they would have to do is say they had the idea for figurines all along, and produce any type of faked document. You would not have a leg to stand on. All you have is proof that an email was sent; not that it was received, read, distributed or acted upon.

It's like the FTDs.

I wrote an article - published in several notable Elvis publications - that RCA should start up a special collectors' label, separate from RCA. I suggested it could release concerts and outtakes and other material in limited numbers, not to the general public, so that fans who wanted that material could pay for it.

And when did I write this article?

1987.

I was the first to suggest this concept, at least in print.

Think I have a case to sue? ;) Not bloody likely!

Once again, a breathe of fresh air coming from Getlo ...

Thanks sir, for speaking honestly and passionately to us, the fans.

[presley31]

Maybe the best thing you can do EP75 is wait and see like the rest of us, if it happens it happens if not well end of story.

[ksimms2]

well read this article - evidently it has begun....or atleast seems so:

http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial/StoryDaily.aspx?story=digest&date=1%2f15%2f2008

EPE bought Royal Oaks Apts for 1.6 million or something like that and it butts against Graceland I think...I didn't read whole article.

[Suzan]

And you would be laughed out of court. All they would have to do is say they had the idea for figurines all along, and produce any type of faked document. You would not have a leg to stand on. All you have is proof that an email was sent; not that it was received, read, distributed or acted upon.

It's like the FTDs.

I wrote an article - published in several notable Elvis publications - that RCA should start up a special collectors' label, separate from RCA. I suggested it could release concerts and outtakes and other material in limited numbers, not to the general public, so that fans who wanted that material could pay for it.

And when did I write this article?

1987.

I was the first to suggest this concept, at least in print.

Think I have a case to sue? ;) Not bloody likely!

Once again very well said!(y)

And I would also suggest that some read England's high court ruling, that is not likely to change NO MATTER WHO OWNS the rights to Elvis name and likeness. :)

I still say its a conglamerate (sp? to lazy to look up lol)....and AT&T was broken up for those reasons, how is it that EPE hasn't been? Is it because they give licensing rights, therefore barely skim by? It cost's almost if not a million dollars to enter into partnership w/EPE...maybe even more now.

Yes they bought the apartments and are now in dispute w/another shop owner for his land, etc...he won't sell but it's smack dab in the middle of their purposed expansion. I think admins posted it in the news section, if not I have it on my forum, let me know and I can post it here.:)

[presley31]

well read this article - evidently it has begun....or atleast seems so:

http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial/StoryDaily.aspx?story=digest&date=1%2f15%2f2008

EPE bought Royal Oaks Apts for 1.6 million or something like that and it butts against Graceland I think...I didn't read whole article.

interesting article kelly thanks for sharing

[Diane]

Thanks for the article Kelly. It sounds like a good clean-up and improved usage of the area surrounding Graceland which is what everyone wants.

Diane

[KPM]

Fantastic post Jak.
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't AT&T get shut down for doing the same thing EPE has done?
Read England's ruling against EPE it makes a lot of sense and the U.S. courts should take notice.
AT&T was a monopoly of the communications industry and it was broke because it was manipulating prices, gave poor service, and had a stranglehold on the citizens of this country as far as phone service. In order to allow other companies an opportunity- the monopoly was broke up. It was done because virtually every citizen of the US was affected by this monopoly. Elvis Presleys merchandising and the right to protect a copyrighted name and image are not the same situation. Its important to us, but not every citizen. So I can not Congress doing anything about it.

[Diane]

Yes we sure got caught up in the AT & T break-up. My husband was an office technician for thirty years and after the break-up we lost a ton of benefits....large corporations and government get you one way of the other!

Diane

[KPM]

Yes we sure got caught up in the AT & T break-up. My husband was an office technician for thirty years and after the break-up we lost a ton of benefits....large corporations and government get you one way of the other!Diane

Boy thats for sure.

[keke23]

Well, after today, I'm a lil less pessimistic and more optimistic about this happenin.

My friend/source told me today after I got out of class about some stuff he just heard from his source. He told me not to worry about the delay, that it's gonna happen.

Here's what he told me that he could confirm.

EPE/Sillerman wants the city to commit to improvin EPB all the way from E. Brooks down to Raines, possibly as far as E. Shelby. Around 3 mile stretch.

Sillerman wants to see EPB lined with a street scape of hotels, restaurants, upscale shops and new attractions all the way down to Graceland and beyond.

They wanna gateway from the intersection on down to Graceland.

A readings approval from the new CC could come within the next 3-4 weeks.

He said he expects the new CC to approve it.

No tax dollars are included and all would be funded by tax incentive packages.

EPE won't let out exactly how much their gonna need/ask for fundin from the city and state for infrastructure and cleanup, but it's expected to be a lot, somewhere in the millions.

He assured me nothin is gonna happen or be added to the house or the property.

The media got all their info wrong.

Tom Marshall misinterpreted Sillerman's words and plans.

There won't be a theme park at Graceland.

There are plans for at least 1 boutique hotel and 1 convention hotel. Possibly a 3rd hotel.

There's currently about 300 hotel rooms in the Graceland area now. If all goes well, there'll be over 1,000 when this is all done.


So yall who were worried about a theme park at Graceland can calm down and exhale now.:lol:

[Johnny]

:doh:

I trust the media way better than any "source from another source" as propably most others here do

[utmom2008]

:doh:

I trust the media way better than any "source from another source" as propably most others here do
I agree.....and I for one was never ever worried about a theme park at Graceland. ;);)

[Jungleroom76]

Although I certainly don't think a "theme park" scheme would be the way to go, I am glad that plans are in place for a revamping of the area around Graceland. (y)

I think the ideas that are being proposed for the area are fantastic!! The new visitors center, the new and improved hotel...creating an entire "Elvis Community" so to speak! I definitely think that all of the plans for the area will certainly make Graceland the premiere destination that it deserves to be!

TCB!
Mike

[Getlo]

The media got all their info wrong.

Tom Marshall misinterpreted Sillerman's words and plans.

Then, we must surely expect a message soon from BS correcting the media's "mistakes" ?


:doh:I trust the media way better than any "source from another source" as propably most others here do

Hear, hear ...

[keke23]

Then, we must surely expect a message soon from BS correcting the media's "mistakes" ?



Hear, hear ...

Not really.

Sillerman did say it was gonna be like Disney so I assume TM put 1 and 1 together and figured a theme park was what he meant.

But what he meant was it's gonna be as popular of an attraction to the general public like Disney is.

I'm just glad that I'll be able to finally drive down EPB and not have to worry about gettin carjacked or havin someone come up to my car and try to sell me crack.

[Suzan]

My my how some viewpoints have changed and now stating what some of us have been saying all along. ROF

[Frankieg]

My my how some viewpoints have changed and now stating what some of us have been saying all along. ROF


You got that right Suzan ... :P

Cheers :!: (y)

[utmom2008]

My my how some viewpoints have changed and now stating what some of us have been saying all along. ROF
Hummmmmm......I noticed that as well. :hmm::hmm: :lol:

[keke23]

My my how some viewpoints have changed and now stating what some of us have been saying all along. ROF

Exactlyt what have you been sayin all along?

I'd like to hear because you were one of the main ones complainin and sayin they better leave Graceland alone and blah blah blah.:rolleyes:

I didn't change my views on nothin.

I only posted what I was told as bein confirmed.

All you do is post what EPE tells you and wants the fans to know, not what's really goin on.

I post what I am told, not some fabircated lies that EPE poisons fans with just to kiss their a$$.

My source has ties to someone here who is a part of the CC, old and new.

Everything I've posted to this day was excatly what I was told and what Sillerman said to the CC.

And even though this aint on subject, or maybe it is. But the Zippin Pippin is gonna be moved to Mudd Island as part of a new theme park planned there.

I'm surprised your "inside sources" didn't tell you that, :lmfao:

[KPM]

Not really.

Sillerman did say it was gonna be like Disney so I assume TM put 1 and 1 together and figured a theme park was what he meant.

But what he meant was it's gonna be as popular of an attraction to the general public like Disney is.
I'm just glad that I'll be able to finally drive down EPB and not have to worry about gettin carjacked or havin someone come up to my car and try to sell me crack.
Is that what Sillerman has said in explaining his quote? Or is it you assuming thats what he meant? I only ask because "assuming" is how rumors get started which are not true. (as you yourself in this post point out.)

[keke23]

Is that what Sillerman has said in explaining his quote? Or is it you assuming thats what he meant? I only ask because "assuming" is how rumors get started which are not true. (as you yourself in this post point out.)

That's what he meant.

[rocknroll]

I'm just glad that I'll be able to finally drive down EPB and not have to worry about gettin carjacked or havin someone come up to my car and try to sell me crack.

I've never experienced either one of these issues.

[presley31]

I've never experienced either one of these issues.

guess your lucky, happens where l live;)

[utmom2008]

guess your lucky, happens where l live;)
People are selling crack and carjacking cars on the street where you live??? :hmm: :hmm:
If that's the case I guess you don't let your son out of the house....:hmm:

[Diane]

It happens in any city any neighbourhood anymore. There is no getting away from it these days unless you're rich enough to have high walls and high end security around your house.

Diane

[presley31]

It happens in any city any neighbourhood anymore. There is no getting away from it these days unless you're rich enough to have high walls and high end security around your house.

Diane

yep diane, seems to be out of hand these days. I just saw in the paper a car was stolen with a 6 mouth old in the car while the mother was getting her other kid out of daycare thankful the baby was found in the car no harm done, still such a shame.:'(

[EP75]

EPE/Sillerman wants the city to commit to improvin EPB all the way from E. Brooks down to Raines, possibly as far as E. Shelby. Around 3 mile stretch.


Sillerman wants to see EPB lined with a street scape of hotels, restaurants, upscale shops and new attractions all the way down to Graceland and beyond.

They wanna gateway from the intersection on down to Graceland.

That would be a wonderful thing if it happens!(y) Think Gatlinburg or Branson.(y) That will draw more visitors to that area and at the same time draw the criminals away. There should have already been some type of gateway leading into the Graceland area. Why didn't EPE shoot for this long ago? They must have been too busy investing in their beloved duck heads.(n)


A readings approval from the new CC could come within the next 3-4 weeks.

He said he expects the new CC to approve it.

No tax dollars are included and all would be funded by tax incentive packages.


That's encouraging to hear.:notworthy The other day you had me worried.:D



He assured me nothin is gonna happen or be added to the house or the property.

The media got all their info wrong.

Tom Marshall misinterpreted Sillerman's words and plans.

There won't be a theme park at Graceland.



Interesting since Soden himself went on record that the home would be restored as it was when EP lived there.:hmm: In fact it's on the very first post of this thread that I started.



There are plans for at least 1 boutique hotel and 1 convention hotel. Possibly a 3rd hotel.

There's currently about 300 hotel rooms in the Graceland area now. If all goes well, there'll be over 1,000 when this is all done.



Only 300???:supriced: That's hard to believe considering how popular Graceland is worldwide. You would think that there would be more hotels investing in that area. About the 2 hotels being planned that you mentioned-make that 3 now. In the latest report on FXRE, it specifically states that 3 hotels are in the master plan and being developed by FXRE. Also it says convention facilities are involved int he project.



So yall who were worried about a theme park at Graceland can calm down and exhale now.:lol:

Gee, I wonder who those people were?:hmm::hmm::hmm:

[EP75]

Hey Presley31, really nice picture in your avatar! Is that you?:flowers::flowers:

[presley31]

Hey Presley31, really nice picture in your avatar! Is that you?:flowers::flowers:


:lol: I wish.. its a picture of ann margaret:D

[EP75]

:lol: I wish.. its a picture of ann margaret:D


I never seen that picture before of Ann. She looks gorgeous in it.

[rocknroll]

guess your lucky, happens where l live;)

I meant while driving down Elvis Presley Blvd., as I quoted. But you knew that, didn't you.;)

[presley31]

I never seen that picture before of Ann. She looks gorgeous in it.

yep l found it looking for ann pictures, indeed she was a good looking woman.

[Jungleroom76]

That would be a wonderful thing if it happens!(y) Think Gatlinburg or Branson.(y) That will draw more visitors to that area and at the same time draw the criminals away. There should have already been some type of gateway leading into the Graceland area. Why didn't EPE shoot for this long ago?

I have no idea why EPE didn't do something like this sooner, but better late than never!!! (y)

Personally, I'm with you EP75...this idea is long overdue and I can't wait to see it all take shape!

TCB!
Mike

[EP75]

I have no idea why EPE didn't do something like this sooner, but better late than never!!! (y)

Personally, I'm with you EP75...this idea is long overdue and I can't wait to see it all take shape!

TCB!
Mike

Yes it is overdue. But as you said, better late than never.(y)

[Suzan]

Exactlyt what have you been sayin all along?

I'd like to hear because you were one of the main ones complainin and sayin they better leave Graceland alone and blah blah blah.:rolleyes:

I didn't change my views on nothin.

I only posted what I was told as bein confirmed.

All you do is post what EPE tells you and wants the fans to know, not what's really goin on.

I post what I am told, not some fabircated lies that EPE poisons fans with just to kiss their a$$.

My source has ties to someone here who is a part of the CC, old and new.

Everything I've posted to this day was excatly what I was told and what Sillerman said to the CC.

And even though this aint on subject, or maybe it is. But the Zippin Pippin is gonna be moved to Mudd Island as part of a new theme park planned there.

I'm surprised your "inside sources" didn't tell you that, :lmfao:

Awe honey go back thru my posts and not surprising you knew EXACTLY what I was referring to. :D Says more then all you've posted here. :lmfao:

I don't have time to go back thru the threads hon, but your "sources" were discredited in ea. post, including the Zippin Pippin story, from the get go.
The views you posted above were what some of us HAVE been saying all along w/you and your "friend" going on about how Sillerman will do this and that, on and on...we even posted Sillerman's comments where he said no such thing as you were claiming.
So MANY threads on the same topic have been posted that it is impossible to find them all, but don't worry hon. everyone knows what I'm saying because they saw the threads, responses, etc...(y)

All I'm going to post in this thread if you'd like to argue w/someone, you'll have to find another member to do so with, for my posts regarding ALL of this can be found by someone running a search on my posts, ;) Have happy stroll down memory lane. :D

[utmom2008]

That's what he meant.
So...as KPM asked, "this is you assuming that's what he meant"? Right??

[utmom2008]

I'd like to hear because you were one of the main ones complainin and sayin they better leave Graceland alone and blah blah blah.:rolleyes:



I don't think any of us said "they better leave Graceland alone.". We have all said the same thing.....nothing can be done to Graceland without Lisa's permission. She is, after all, the sole owner of the house.;)

[EP75]

Hey Suzan, whatever happened to that "proof" that Lisa Marie said nothing was going to be changed that you were going to post? We're still waiting.:D

[Frankieg]

Hey Presley31, really nice picture in your avatar! Is that you?:flowers::flowers:

OMG, I can't buleeve you actually asked her that question :!: :blush:

[Suzan]

Hey Suzan, whatever happened to that "proof" that Lisa Marie said nothing was going to be changed that you were going to post? We're still waiting.:D

I did post it honey...go to my profile and hunt via my posts. I'm sorry you missed it. :lmfao:

[Suzan]

I don't think any of us said "they better leave Graceland alone.". We have all said the same thing.....nothing can be done to Graceland without Lisa's permission. She is, after all, the sole owner of the house.;)

Exactly, "she" is now trying to make it look like she's been saying what we've been saying the whole time, which is what makes their posts so dang amusing! :lmfao:

[keke23]

This was on last night's news here. It's now up a WMC's site.

It's about the plans for the airprort area includin Graceland.

It confirms just what my source said, nothin's gonna happen to the mansion, but outside of it is different story.



With FedEx, Memphis has the number one cargo airport in the world. And it turns out the airport and the surrounding area are this region's true engine for economic growth. That's why leading Memphis companies have made improving the airport area a top priority.

Back-hoes remove debris from what will be a new bus terminal at Airways and Brooks within sight of the airport:

"This will be a true multi-modal facility where Greyhound will come in, city buses and it'll be...hopefully in the future...a hub for a larger light rail system," John Lawrence of the airport development corporation said.

John Lawrence serves as director of the new Memphis Airport Area Development Corporation.

It was created by top airport area companies to solve a gigantic jigsaw puzzle. How to set the stage for business growth with enhanced beauty and safety in a hodge-podge unlike any other.

"We have an area that's developed somewhat haphazardly. But that's what we're all here to straighten out," Lawrence said.

For example, orthopedic giant Smith & Nephew's corporate campus sits on Brooks Road hemmed in by a trailer park.

Down Brooks, strip clubs thrive.

But fewer hookers work along Brooks than in years past after a full court press from police and the district attorney.

"Crime statistics are down for the road and the area as a whole around here," Lawrence said.

The focus is now on improving things. Creating a new master plan for growth from the airport, cleaning up Brooks Road all the way to Elvis Presley Boulevard and then South to Graceland.

"I want to give you a comfort level that nothing's changing," Priscilla Presley said.

Priscilla assured Elvis' birthday fans last week that the inside of Graceland mansion will remain undisturbed. But all around Graceland, it's a much different story!

"There are investors all up and down this street looking for new hotel properties," Lawrence said.

The old Howard Johnson's motel is being town down. And just this week, Elvis Presley Enterprises announced the purchase of the Royal Oaks Apartments adjoining Graceland.

It's all part of billionaire Robert Sillerman's plan to transform the area into a Disney-esque mecca. The ultimate Elvis experience.

It's all about growth at Graceland and airport area companies like Medtronic, which has a 180,000 square foot office building in the works.

Just the kind of development Lawrence was hired to encourage.

"Much of what we're doing throughout 2008 is master planning Brooks Road and Elvis Presley Boulevard, creating an identity and a communications plan for this area to let people know they've arrived someplace," Lawrence said.

Taking back this neighborhood might just create the jobs that help Memphis' economy expand and take off!

If your business is near the airport, the Memphis Airport Area Development Corporation wants your help planning the future.

You can call 396-1564 for more information.

[Suzan]

Which is what I've been saying since these threads started...NOTHING on the premises of the house INCLUDING the house are going to be touched. :lmfao:

[presley31]

This was on last night's news here. It's now up a WMC's site.

It's about the plans for the airprort area includin Graceland.

It confirms just what my source said, nothin's gonna happen to the mansion, but outside of it is different story.



With FedEx, Memphis has the number one cargo airport in the world. And it turns out the airport and the surrounding area are this region's true engine for economic growth. That's why leading Memphis companies have made improving the airport area a top priority.

Back-hoes remove debris from what will be a new bus terminal at Airways and Brooks within sight of the airport:

"This will be a true multi-modal facility where Greyhound will come in, city buses and it'll be...hopefully in the future...a hub for a larger light rail system," John Lawrence of the airport development corporation said.

John Lawrence serves as director of the new Memphis Airport Area Development Corporation.

It was created by top airport area companies to solve a gigantic jigsaw puzzle. How to set the stage for business growth with enhanced beauty and safety in a hodge-podge unlike any other.

"We have an area that's developed somewhat haphazardly. But that's what we're all here to straighten out," Lawrence said.

For example, orthopedic giant Smith & Nephew's corporate campus sits on Brooks Road hemmed in by a trailer park.

Down Brooks, strip clubs thrive.

But fewer hookers work along Brooks than in years past after a full court press from police and the district attorney.

"Crime statistics are down for the road and the area as a whole around here," Lawrence said.

The focus is now on improving things. Creating a new master plan for growth from the airport, cleaning up Brooks Road all the way to Elvis Presley Boulevard and then South to Graceland.

"I want to give you a comfort level that nothing's changing," Priscilla Presley said.

Priscilla assured Elvis' birthday fans last week that the inside of Graceland mansion will remain undisturbed. But all around Graceland, it's a much different story!

"There are investors all up and down this street looking for new hotel properties," Lawrence said.

The old Howard Johnson's motel is being town down. And just this week, Elvis Presley Enterprises announced the purchase of the Royal Oaks Apartments adjoining Graceland.

It's all part of billionaire Robert Sillerman's plan to transform the area into a Disney-esque mecca. The ultimate Elvis experience.

It's all about growth at Graceland and airport area companies like Medtronic, which has a 180,000 square foot office building in the works.

Just the kind of development Lawrence was hired to encourage.

"Much of what we're doing throughout 2008 is master planning Brooks Road and Elvis Presley Boulevard, creating an identity and a communications plan for this area to let people know they've arrived someplace," Lawrence said.

Taking back this neighborhood might just create the jobs that help Memphis' economy expand and take off!

If your business is near the airport, the Memphis Airport Area Development Corporation wants your help planning the future.

You can call 396-1564 for more information.

Thank you:D

[keke23]

No problem.:)

I'm so glad to see the airport authorities takin a stance to make that part of town their #1 priority.

But let's be real too......would they be makin all these efforts for that area if Graceland wasn't expandin? I doubt it.

WH hasn't really improved until just recently when BS made his announcements for the area.

I'm hopin this all snowballs and flows through the rest of the city to clean it up and make it attractive to visitors.

[KPM]

No problem.:)

I'm so glad to see the airport authorities takin a stance to make that part of town their #1 priority.

But let's be real too......would they be makin all these efforts for that area if Graceland wasn't expandin? I doubt it.

WH hasn't really improved until just recently when BS made his announcements for the area.

I'm hopin this all snowballs and flows through the rest of the city to clean it up and make it attractive to visitors.

If the city cares about its people and its image-there should be no need for a reason to do these things. My area is updating and expanding all the time-because people complain and ask for improvements and because good city managemant sees to grow you have to make improvements.

[keke23]

If the city cares about its people and its image-there should be no need for a reason to do these things. My area is updating and expanding all the time-because people complain and ask for improvements and because good city managemant sees to grow you have to make improvements.

ITA, but our main problem here is lack of government funds to improve.

Plus, Nashville and other "non minority" cities in the state get first hand attention and money form the state and Memphis comes as 2nd resort.

It's easy to make master plans and layouts of how it SHOULD look in Memphis. But it's much harder to do that if the money aint there. Which is the reason Memphis is in such a bad shape now with crime, low income, and high unemployment rate. Not to mention a very dirty and corrupted local government.

[Miss Clawdy]

ITA, but our main problem here is lack of government funds to improve.

Plus, Nashville and other "non minority" cities in the state get first hand attention and money form the state and Memphis comes as 2nd resort.

It's easy to make master plans and layouts of how it SHOULD look in Memphis. But it's much harder to do that if the money aint there. Which is the reason Memphis is in such a bad shape now with crime, low income, and high unemployment rate. Not to mention a very dirty and corrupted local government.

A lack of government funds for the past 30 years :blink:? I think if they
wouldn't massively exaggerate with their plans for cleaning up the Graceland
area now, they could have done improvements bit by bit over the years.
For me these are all lame excuses for making these plans sound as if they were absolutely necessary (n).
Like KPM said: 'If the city cares about its people and its image-there should
be no need for a reason to do these things.'(y)

[Suzan]

A lack of government funds for the past 30 years :blink:? I think if they
wouldn't massively exaggerate with their plans for cleaning up the Graceland
area now, they could have done improvements bit by bit over the years.
For me these are all lame excuses for making these plans sound as if they were absolutely necessary (n).
Like KPM said: 'If the city cares about its people and its image-there should
be no need for a reason to do these things.'(y)

Well said.(y)

[Unique Dog]

ITA, but our main problem here is lack of government funds to improve.

Plus, Nashville and other "non minority" cities in the state get first hand attention and money form the state and Memphis comes as 2nd resort.

It's easy to make master plans and layouts of how it SHOULD look in Memphis. But it's much harder to do that if the money aint there. Which is the reason Memphis is in such a bad shape now with crime, low income, and high unemployment rate. Not to mention a very dirty and corrupted local government.

Lack of government funds? :hmm: How can that be true or taken seriously? Memphis is the largest city in the state. What other "non minority" cities in this state are you implying recieves more attention or money?

[keke23]

Lack of government funds? :hmm: How can that be true or taken seriously? Memphis is the largest city in the state. What other "non minority" cities in this state are you implying recieves more attention or money?

Nashville, Murfreesboro, Chattanooga, Knowville, etc.

Memphis is the largets city in the state, true.

But, Memphis don't get the fundin that those other cities get.

Why is it that Chattanooga got the Tennesee Aquarium, a major tourists attraction, and Memphis, which is on the river, didn't?

The governor supported the idea of havin pro football in Nashville, but not in Memphis.

Why is that? Because Memphis is 75% black and Nashville is only about 40%.

The U of M, where I attend classes, has the largest black populated student body than does any other state school in America.

But UT, Vanderbilt, and MTSU gets more state funds than UM does.:hmm:

That's why were the only school in the state who aint got an on campus stadium.

This is why things are bad in Memphis today as they are.

Some of yall won't face reality, and I aint callin no one out here, but race does play a part in all of this.

The numbers and demographics don't lie.

And for those of yall sayin the GL plans are just an excuse, get real. The neighborhood's been in slow decline for over 10 years now.

Yall don't live here to see the issues we Memphians have to deal with everyday.

That's why I don't live in the inner city no more. It's too dam dangerous.

[keke23]

Sorry for gettin too off topic, but I had to answer that post.

[presley31]

FX Real Estate and Entertainment Completes Leadership Team.


FX Real Estate and Entertainment Inc. ("FXRE") announced today that Robert F.X. Sillerman and Barry Shier are joining the Company's senior management team, with Mr. Sillerman to serve as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Shier to serve as Chief Operating Officer.

This will be the seventh public company built and run by Mr. Sillerman, adding to the list of six prior successful ventures, including CKX, Inc. (Nasdaq: CKXE), where he continues to serve as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Sillerman has also successfully developed a number of real estate projects, including, most recently, the Temenos Anguilla resort.

Mr. Shier has had a long and prominent career in the hotel and gaming industry, having spent more than 15 years with Mirage Resorts Inc. He most recently served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Golden Nugget Las Vegas Corporation, and Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Beau Rivage Resort and Casino in Biloxi, Mississippi.

FXRE is an entertainment-oriented real estate development company with a plan to pursue real estate and entertainment-based projects and attractions throughout the world. The Company owns 17.72 contiguous acres of land located at the southeast corner of Las Vegas Boulevard and Harmon Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada, known as the Park Central Property. FXRE has licensed from Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc., and Muhammad Ali Enterprises LLC, the right it to use the intellectual property and certain other assets associated with Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali in the development of its real estate and other entertainment attraction-based projects. FXRE currently anticipates that the development of the Park Central Property will involve multiple elements that incorporate the Elvis Presley assets and theming.

FXRE also expects to play a major role in Elvis Presley Enterprises' plans to redevelop and expand the Graceland attraction as the centerpiece of the Whitehaven section of Memphis, Tennessee. The master plan for this redevelopment incorporates approximately 100 acres surrounding and contiguous to the Graceland mansion property and is expected to include a new visitor center, exhibition space, retail, hotel, convention facilities, public open space and parking on both sides of Elvis Presley Boulevard.

FXRE will develop up to three hotels to be built as part of the Graceland master plan. In the event that the hotel complexes to be developed by the Company become a larger element of the overall project, including becoming more integrated into the visitor and mansion experience, FXRE may expand its relationship with Elvis Presley Enterprises to assume a larger role in the overall development.

"I am enormously excited by the opportunity to further enhance the legacies of Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali through the development of our planned real estate-based projects," said Mr. Sillerman. "I know Barry shares my vision of the opportunities available to us in Las Vegas, Memphis and worldwide and I look forward to working with him to realize our shared vision for the company."

Mr. Shier added, "The opportunity to work with Bob in developing a global, entertainment-centered resort and gaming company, incorporating the essence of Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali, is one of the most exciting undertakings in myprofessional career, and on par with the wonderful associations I have had in the past, with some of the legends in the hotel and gaming industries."

As an expression of his confidence, Mr. Sillerman has agreed to accept no annual cash compensation for serving as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of FXRE, but rather to receive a significant grant of stock options at $20.00 per share, which is twice the price per share to be offered to existing FXRE stockholders in the Company's previously announced rights offering. These options will vest over a five-year period. Mr. Sillerman, together with The Huff Alternative Fund, L.P., a significant stockholder, has also agreed to backstop the rights offering and purchase all shares in the rights offering that are not otherwise subscribed for by stockholders, if any, at the same $10 per share price offered to other stockholders.

In connection with his retention, Mr. Shier has purchased 500,000 shares of the Company's common stock at a price of $5.14 per share, the price at which CKX made its initial investment in the Company and its ownership of the Park Central Property in Las Vegas. Mr. Shier has also received a significant stock option grant at $10.00 per share, with the options vesting ratably over a two-year period, and becoming exercisable at the end of two years.

For more information on Mr. Sillerman's employment agreement, Mr. Shier's employment agreement and Mr. Shier's stock purchase, please see the Company's Current Report on Form 8-K, which is available at the SEC's website at www.sec.gov.

Messrs. Sillerman and Shier are joined in FXRE senior management by Paul Kanavos, the Company's President; Brett Torino, Chairman of the Las Vegas Division; and Thomas P. Benson, who will serve as Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Kanavos has worked in real estate and hotel development for more than 20 years, including most recently on the development of Ritz Carltons in South Beach (Miami) and Jupiter, Florida, as well as on the Temenos Resort in Anguilla. Mr. Torino is a long-established developer of commercial, residential and resort properties in Nevada, California, Colorado and Arizona. Mr. Benson will continue to serve as the Chief Financial Officer of CKX, Inc., pending consummation of the CKX's previously announced merger with 19X, Inc., after which Mr. Benson will resign from CKX and assume full time duties with FX Real Estate and Entertainment.

Commencement of Trading on NASDAQ Global Market Shares of common stock of FX Real Estate and Entertainment will commence trading on the NASDAQ Global Market under the trading symbol "FXRE" on January 10, 2008, the date on which shares of its common stock are being distributed by CKX, Inc. to its stockholders, as more fully described below.


Pending Distribution to Stockholders of CKX, Inc.

On January 10, 2008, CKX stockholders of record will receive two shares of FX Real Estate and Entertainment's common stock for every ten shares of CKX common and preferred stock held as of December 31, 2007. The distribution of shares in FX Real Estate and Entertainment is intended to give CKX stockholders an interest in FXRE's location-based exploitation of CKX's Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali assets pursuant to the terms of FXRE's license agreements with CKX and its subsidiaries.

The distribution of FX Real Estate and Entertainment's common stock is being made pursuant to a prospectus of an effective registration statement previously filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This press release does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of any offer to buy these securities nor will there by any sale of these securities in any state in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful prior to registration or qualification under the securities laws of any such state.

About FX Real Estate and Entertainment

FX Real Estate and Entertainment owns 17.72 contiguous acres of land located at the southeast corner of Las Vegas Boulevard and Harmon Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada, known as the Park Central Property. FXRE intends to pursue a hotel, casino, entertainment, retail, commercial and residential development project on the Park Central Property. FXRE recently entered into license agreements with Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc., an 85%-owned subsidiary of CKX, Inc., and Muhammad Ali Enterprises LLC, an 80%-owned subsidiary of CKX, which allows it to use the intellectual property and certain other assets associated with Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali in the development of its real estate and other entertainment attraction-based projects. FXRE currently anticipates that the development of the Park Central Property will involve multiple elements that incorporate the Elvis Presley assets and theming. In addition, the license agreement with Elvis Presley Enterprises grants FXRE the right to develop, and it currently intends to pursue the development of, one or more hotels as part of the master plan of Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. to redevelop the Graceland property and surrounding areas in Memphis, Tennessee.

In addition to its interest in the Park Central Property, its plans with respect to a Graceland-based hotel, and its intention to pursue additional real estate and entertainment-based developments using the Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali intellectual property, FXRE, through direct and indirect wholly owned subsidiaries, owns 1,410,363 shares of common stock of Riviera Holdings Corporation, a company that owns and operates the Riviera Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada and the Blackhawk Casino in Blackhawk, Colorado.


2008/01/16 www.elvisunlimited.com / www.epgold.com

[utmom2008]

But UT, Vanderbilt, and MTSU gets more state funds than UM does.:hmm:

Vanderbilt doesn't get any state funds...it's a private school.;)

[Suzan]

Vanderbilt doesn't get any state funds...it's a private school.;)

You caught that too? :lmfao:
Thing is all this is readily avail. info on the net...amusing huh?

[utmom2008]

Nashville, Murfreesboro, Chattanooga, Knowville, etc.

Memphis is the largets city in the state, true.

But, Memphis don't get the fundin that those other cities get.

Why is it that Chattanooga got the Tennesee Aquarium, a major tourists attraction, and Memphis, which is on the river, didn't?

The governor supported the idea of havin pro football in Nashville, but not in Memphis.

Why is that? Because Memphis is 75% black and Nashville is only about 40%.

The U of M, where I attend classes, has the largest black populated student body than does any other state school in America.

But UT, Vanderbilt, and MTSU gets more state funds than UM does.:hmm:

That's why were the only school in the state who aint got an on campus stadium.

This is why things are bad in Memphis today as they are.

Some of yall won't face reality, and I aint callin no one out here, but race does play a part in all of this.

The numbers and demographics don't lie.

And for those of yall sayin the GL plans are just an excuse, get real. The neighborhood's been in slow decline for over 10 years now.

Yall don't live here to see the issues we Memphians have to deal with everyday.

That's why I don't live in the inner city no more. It's too dam dangerous.
:lol: I hope that the Chamber of Commerce doesn't hire you to run public relations.;) If anyone was even thinking about moving there, for personal or business reasons, your descriptions of Memphis would run them out of town in record time.....;);)

[presley31]

Um, Presley, this is the same thing I posted here yesterday. Remember? You thanked me for the info.;)

sorry:blush: l just deleted it:doh: been along day

[keke23]

sorry:blush: l just deleted it:doh: been along day

I see that.:lol:

I deleted my response as well.

No biggie.

[utmom2008]

Lakeisha just sent me an email saying that a MGM theme park is planned to be built near Graceland in Northern Mississippi and that it will be like the Universal park in Orlando near Disneyworld. She says it's only 5 miles from Graceland. I am trying to find out more about this. She says she thinks this is tied into the new epxansion redevelopment plans for Graceland. When I hear back from her I will post what she tells me about it. I find this extremely interesting.

Are there any updates to this piece of news?? :hmm::doh::hmm:

[keke23]

Are there any updates to this piece of news?? :hmm::doh::hmm:


Funny you mentioned this.

Me and my close friend, my source, told me about a week ago that the MGM Park is still planned, but that it's on hold because the developer is still tryin to get the land approved by the state.

He said he expects groundbreakin on it no later than this summer.

It's supposed to be more like a downtown Disney than Universal from what he told me.

[Donut]

Funny you mentioned this.

Me and my close friend, my source, told me about a week ago that the MGM Park is still planned, but that it's on hold because the developer is still tryin to get the land approved by the state.

He said he expects groundbreakin on it no later than this summer.

It's supposed to be more like a downtown Disney than Universal from what he told me.

Do you really like Elvis as an entertainer and human being or what you really like is what your city can achieve through his name and popularity?

[Diane]

It seems some are bound and determined there is going to be some kind of Disneyland or Elvisland in the city of Memphis.

I wonder that too Donut....is Elvis well thought of in his own city or just a commodity?????

Diane

[presley31]

It seems some are bound and determined there is going to be some kind of Disneyland or Elvisland in the city of Memphis.

I wonder that too Donut....is Elvis well thought of in his own city or just a commodity?????

Diane

l'am just curious cause l never been to memphis so l like to be updated so l know whats going on when l do get the chance to go sometime.

[Johnny]

l'am just curious cause l never been to memphis so l like to be updated so l know whats going on when l do get the chance to go sometime.

I would suggest waiting for news from reliable sources; and this spam of EP75/Lakeisha has gone on long enough (n). Enough already!

[presley31]

I would suggest waiting for news from reliable sources; and this spam of EP75/Lakeisha has gone on long enough (n). Enough already!

I do see lots of this stuff on the elvis news, so thats better than EPE email replys which tells you nothing about the updated stuff.

[keke23]

Elvis is a lil bit of both hero and commodity here.

Some folks here love him while others take him for granted and couldn't care less that he's even from here.

Some folks aren't originally true natives of the city, and they simply hate him and don't understand his importance to our city and pop culture.

Some black folks here think of him as they do Dr King, while others think of him in the same way as they do David Duke.

IMO, I think these changes comin will change folks opinions and views and will hook more locals onto Elvis and his legacy and more residents will start to appreciate and respect him more.

As it is now, most think it's all for just his generation of fans.

But it's not. It's for all ages and races.

I don't think they'd be makin all these changes if it were just 60+ year old fans visitin yearly.

These changes are for the next generation of fans and visitors to the area.

[keke23]

It seems some are bound and determined there is going to be some kind of Disneyland or Elvisland in the city of Memphis.

I wonder that too Donut....is Elvis well thought of in his own city or just a commodity?????

Diane

I don't know about Disneyland, but Elvisland......:hmm: possibly,;)

$300M aint chump change.

[Donut]

keke23

I don´t know if you are answering Diane or me.
I wasn´t asking you what Elvis means to your city, the question was aimed directly to you and it was if you are interested in Elvis as an entertainer.
Don´t take offence but this is just an Elvis fan site, we can´t help you here with your hopes and wishes for your city development, we all have our own cities for wich be concerned about, you know, but there is another place and moment for this for us to do so.

[keke23]

keke23

I don´t know if you are answering Diane or me.
I wasn´t asking you what Elvis means to your city, the question was aimed directly to you and it was if you are interested in Elvis as an entertainer.
Don´t take offence but this is just an Elvis fan site, we can´t help you here with your hopes and wishes for your city development, we all have our own cities for wich be concerned about, you know, but there is another place and moment for this for us to do so.


To answer your question.....of course I'm a fan of Elvis, the entertainer, the movie star, the humble generous lovin sexy person he was, and of course the fact that he's from Memphis, lived and died here.

His impact is big for this city and tourism.

That's why these plans are soooo vital to our economy, tourism, not to mention his longevity and the city in general.

Without Elvis.....Memphis would be just another city.

[rocknroll]

Thread is turning to race. What a shocker.

[keke23]

Thread is turning to race. What a shocker.

No, it's called reality of today's society.:rolleyes:

[Donut]

OK thanks for clearing that up to me.

[MissyM]

I don't really care one way or the other what they do to Graceland anymore.

[rocknroll]

No, it's called reality of today's society.:rolleyes:

You and Jay are the only one's who bring it up. It's too prevelant and impossible to avoid when trying to navigate some of these threads. Give it a rest.

[MissyM]

That there is an option for Sillerman to buy Graceland in 2008. You all know that right. Even Patsy Anderson confirms it. By selling it, Lisa won't have to pay the upkeep, ins. and ect. on it. Sillerman leases it right now.

[Diane]

If Lisa decides to let it go I think it would be a bad bad idea and my respect for her would go down tremendously.

Diane

[john carpenter]

Oh, God no, Lisa Marie better reconsider. Next they will probably close Graceland.. And put a Walmart in its place..bad idea.

[presley31]

I never heard of Stillerman wanting to buy graceland?? where's all this coming from??

[Johnny]

That there is an option for Sillerman to buy Graceland in 2008. You all know that right. Even Patsy Anderson confirms it. By selling it, Lisa won't have to pay the upkeep, ins. and ect. on it. Sillerman leases it right now.

What kind of crap are you pulling MissyM?! Dear god, I would expect this kind of nonsense from EP75/Lakeisha but not from you! :angry:

Lisa Marie on Larry King Live:

Presley: [...]There's Elvis Presley Enterprises and Elvis Presley estate. Now, 85 percent -- what we did is we merged with Sillerman. He bought 85 percent of the Enterprises, which is different from the estate. Estate's mine, his things mine, everything's still mine and in order. He has the 85 percent, but I also still have -- we have a 15.


KING: And the other, the home and that kind of thing, just remains with you.
PRESLEY: The home is absolutely mine. Everything in it is mine. All of his personal things are mine.

[MissyM]

Well Patsy Anderson confirmed it. I guess it is only as reliable as her sources. But since she has some darn good sources, I tend to beleive it. Here is her response when asked. (on Patsy's site) Take it for what it is worth. No she wasn't lying when she did the King interview is was and still is hers now.

According to the SEC on the stockholders site, Lisa has offered Sillerman the option of buying the mansion, mansion grounds and mansion artifacts in January of 2008. However, at the Elvis Week Concert, Lisa announced there would be a very special announcement happening in 2008, so who knows? I don't know that the sell would change anything as Sillerman has the home, grounds and artifacts already leased for 90 years. I should be in in my wheelchair by the end of his lease. LOL I'm sure that Priscilla and Lisa would continue to be involved even after the sell; if there is a sell. The sell of the property would release Lisa from bills, insurance, upkeep, etc. but she would still be a part of the happenings there, I would think. I know this is sad news but we will all have to wait and see before getting upset about it. Lisa really is a wonderful person and really does love her father and family. I know she doesn't show her true self in public much but the times I have been with her, she has a good heart. I think the reason Priscilla is referred to as "widow" is that most reporters know very little about Elvis' private life or have forgotten about the divorce and don't bother to check it out before going on the air. I hope I haven't put everyone into a dumpster mood. If so, I am very sorry. Remember - Don't worry, Be Happy and let's wait for the announcement.

[presley31]

Why would lisa give that up?? doesn't elvis graceland mean anything to her??

[keke23]

First if all, this is a complete shock to me as well.

I knew he owned everything around it and the name, but I didn't think she'd give up the rights to the house as well. What is she thinkin?

I'm with Presley on this. Does she not care?

Second, who's this Patsy lady? Does she work for EPE?

If it's true, then this explains why Sillerman wanted to restore the home back to what it looked like when Elvis was there.

Does this mean he'll open the upstairs as well?

As for closin it down.....he won't do that because it's a national landmark and plus, he'd lose money.

Only way I see it closin would be years down the road if it fails to make a large enough profit to keep it goin. And I don't see that happenin anytime soon with their big plans ahead.

I'll ask my friend if he can find anything out for me about this.

[SeeSeeRider777]

I have not been to Graceland but the first day I find out that the upstairs part is open I am on the first plane out, I am so curious to find out what it looks like up there.

[presley31]

First if all, this is a complete shock to me as well.

I knew he owned everything around it and the name, but I didn't think she'd give up the rights to the house as well. What is she thinkin?

I'm with Presley on this. Does she not care?

Second, who's this Patsy lady? Does she work for EPE?

If it's true, then this explains why Sillerman wanted to restore the home back to what it looked like when Elvis was there.

Does this mean he'll open the upstairs as well?

As for closin it down.....he won't do that because it's a national landmark and plus, he'd lose money.

Only way I see it closin would be years down the road if it fails to make a large enough profit to keep it goin. And I don't see that happenin anytime soon with their big plans ahead.

I'll ask my friend if he can find anything out for me about this.

yep pasty worked at graceland but now she works for Jerry presley.

little infor about pasty http://www.elvispresleynews.com/PatsyAndersen.html

[keke23]

I have not been to Graceland but the first day I find out that the upstairs part is open I am on the first plane out, I am so curious to find out what it looks like up there.

IMO, and I'm not sayin this will happen, but if they ever opened the upstairs at Graceland, knowin how bad the fans wanna see it, they'd set attendance record numbers of fans tourin the home all over again.

It would be like it is in August and Elvis Week, every week.:supriced:

[MissyM]

What kind of crap are you pulling MissyM?! Dear god, I would expect this kind of nonsense from EP75/Lakeisha but not you.
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Jth- I'm not trying to pull anything. Because I assumed others knew of this. And I have no dog in this because I don't care if she sells it or not. Now I said my source and I am looking for more as well. But feel free to counter my souce. That's a good thing. I have no problem with it.

[keke23]

yep pasty worked at graceland but now she works for Jerry presley.

little infor about pasty http://www.elvispresleynews.com/PatsyAndersen.html

What the......:supriced:

Now his own relatives are impersonatin him?

What next, Danielle breaks out singin Hound Dog on the runway?:rolleyes:

But thanks for the info and link.

Btw, I wasn't rollin my eyes at you. It was at the fact his family is even cashin in on his legacy.

Poor Elvis.:'(

[keke23]

What kind of crap are you pulling MissyM?! Dear god, I would expect this kind of nonsense from EP75/Lakeisha but not you.
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Jth- I'm not trying to pull anything. Because I assumed others knew of this. And I have no dog in this because I don't care if she sells it or not. Now I said my source and I am looking for more as well. But feel free to counter my souce. That's a good thing. I have no problem with it.

No, he's wroing for callin you out like that.(n)

In America, it's inncocnet until proven guilty.

But he aint American so he wouldn't know the difference between that and a FAKE Ip address he keeps postin.:rolleyes:

[Countdown]

Well Patsy Anderson confirmed it. I guess it is only as reliable as her sources. But since she has some darn good sources, I tend to beleive it. Here is her response when asked. (on Patsy's site) Take it for what it is worth. No she wasn't lying when she did the King interview is was and still is hers now.

According to the SEC on the stockholders site, Lisa has offered Sillerman the option of buying the mansion, mansion grounds and mansion artifacts in January of 2008. However, at the Elvis Week Concert, Lisa announced there would be a very special announcement happening in 2008, so who knows? I don't know that the sell would change anything as Sillerman has the home, grounds and artifacts already leased for 90 years. I should be in in my wheelchair by the end of his lease. LOL I'm sure that Priscilla and Lisa would continue to be involved even after the sell; if there is a sell. The sell of the property would release Lisa from bills, insurance, upkeep, etc. but she would still be a part of the happenings there, I would think. I know this is sad news but we will all have to wait and see before getting upset about it. Lisa really is a wonderful person and really does love her father and family. I know she doesn't show her true self in public much but the times I have been with her, she has a good heart. I think the reason Priscilla is referred to as "widow" is that most reporters know very little about Elvis' private life or have forgotten about the divorce and don't bother to check it out before going on the air. I hope I haven't put everyone into a dumpster mood. If so, I am very sorry. Remember - Don't worry, Be Happy and let's wait for the announcement.


Yeah, go ahead and sell it. it doesn't mean that much anymore. Just get it over with. There is no family anymore anyway. All that trouble of keeping up with it and think of the money that could be made.

[presley31]

Yeah, go ahead and sell it. it doesn't mean that much anymore. Just get it over with. There is no family anymore anyway. All that trouble of keeping up with it and think of the money that could be made.

what do you mean it doesn't mean much??

[Suzan]

:D Jth :D

First of all Patsy should post the link where she read this, second of all...Lisa stated that she will NEVER sell Graceland.
Patsy quit EPE 4 or so years ago...she wouldn't know crap from a hole in the ground....
The upkeep is nothing compared to what the tours generate so to use that as a reason is laughable.
Don't everyone get their knickers in a knot...only thing Lisa said was that she was planning something big for his BIRTHDAY, that's it...that didn't come to fruition for whatever reason, Pris said on Jan. 8th that nothing was changing, etc...
And there is a 90 yr. lease in place for operating the tours at the house....I'm sure upkeep was included in that.

[presley31]

Maybe lisa should say something instead of all this hear say.

[keke23]

Maybe lisa should say something instead of all this hear say.

ITA

I sent my friend a text and he said he didn't know anything about it.

He said he'd check into it for me.

[keke23]

:D Jth :D

First of all Patsy should post the link where she read this, second of all...Lisa stated that she will NEVER sell Graceland.
Patsy quit EPE 4 or so years ago...she wouldn't know crap from a hole in the ground....
The upkeep is nothing compared to what the tours generate so to use that as a reason is laughable.
Don't everyone get their knickers in a knot...only thing Lisa said was that she was planning something big for his BIRTHDAY, that's it...that didn't come to fruition for whatever reason, Pris said on Jan. 8th that nothing was changing, etc...
And there is a 90 yr. lease in place for operating the tours at the house....I'm sure upkeep was included in that.

Of course, that's YOUR opinion.

Just like all of us, you're just assumin and speculatin.

I know LMP said she owned the house, wouldn't sell it, and so on.

But things change and money sometimes makes folks change as well.

I'm not sayin she is sellin it or aint. I'm sayin it's possible.

I read the link Presley sent and ITA with you that she (Patsy) wouldn't know what's goin on with EPE, unless.....she got her info from LMP herself, or someone close to LMP or the staff.

That's possible considerin they liked her and missed her.

It's also possible that Patsy is makin all this up to get attention as well.

[Suzan]

You and Jay are the only one's who bring it up. It's too prevelant and impossible to avoid when trying to navigate some of these threads. Give it a rest.

(y)
But then oh my, what would they have to talk about? ROF

[Suzan]

Give it a rest "keke" ROF

No sweetie that's FACT! Facts are facts.:)

Patsy no longer has anything to do with either Lisa nor EPE, and she is not claiming she does, she specifically mentioned a website as her source of info...or did you skip over that part? ROF

Have a nice day sweetness.;)

[presley31]

Of course, that's YOUR opinion.

Just like all of us, you're just assumin and speculatin.

I know LMP said she owned the house, wouldn't sell it, and so on.

But things change and money sometimes makes folks change as well.

I'm not sayin she is sellin it or aint. I'm sayin it's possible.

I read the link Presley sent and ITA with you that she (Patsy) wouldn't know what's goin on with EPE, unless.....she got her info from LMP herself, or someone close to LMP or the staff.

That's possible considerin they liked her and missed her.

It's also possible that Patsy is makin all this up to get attention as well.


good points IMO :D

[Suzan]

good points IMO :D

Which points exactly are you agreeing with? ROF

[presley31]

Which points exactly are you agreeing with? ROF


the ones you have no proof for??

[keke23]

the ones you have no proof for??

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[Suzan]

the ones you have no proof for??

What don't I have proof of honey? I've shown you proof time and time again, sadly you are NEVER able to return the favor. :D
Tell me which I'm not proving and I will show you yet again. :D :lmfao:

[presley31]

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

thanks very much:D:D

[SleepyJack]

I would be completely shocked if Lisa Marie let Graceland slip away from her,it`s one of the most tangible links to her father`s memory and to her memories of him. I don`t think it will happen,so maybe this is an argument without a reason.

[Suzan]

I would be completely shocked if Lisa Marie let Graceland slip away from her,it`s one of the most tangible links to her father`s memory and to her memories of him. I don`t think it will happen,so maybe this is an argument without a reason.

Agreed.:)

"an argument without a reason"
Where Graceland and Lisa are concerned it usually is. LOL :D

[cameron]

I'm not even going to get into this mess.
I'm trying to get in touch with Patsy now.
Of course, as someone said. Patsy has been gone from EPE about 3 or 4 years now.
Why this was even started; I have no idea .

[Alessia]

Well, I've been looking at CKX's filings on the SEC website, and I haven't found anything
yet that says Sillerman has an option buy Graceland. This is what CKX's 10-K says about Graceland:

Graceland Operations

Graceland

We operate Graceland under the terms of a 90-year lease with The Promenade Trust, under which 88 years remain. We prepaid approximately $3.0 million of rent at closing of the acquisition of the Presley Business, and will make monthly payments of $1.00 per month during the term of the lease. We own all worldwide rights, title and interest in and to the name “Graceland,” which name may be used at additional themed locations as well as in Memphis, Tennessee.

Graceland Expansion

We have held meetings with government officials in Memphis, Tennessee regarding preliminary plans to re-develop and expand the Graceland attraction as the centerpiece of the Whitehaven section of Memphis, including building an expanded visitors center, developing new attractions and merchandising shops and building a new boutique convention hotel. This project is conditioned on a number of factors including obtaining necessary approvals and concessions from local and state authorities and attracting an appropriate hotel partner. While plans and designs have not been finalized, we have outlined significant aspects of the proposal to local government officials. In connection with these expansion plans, in 2006 we acquired 22.9 acres of additional land in the area immediately surrounding Graceland, including an 18.9 acre RV park and campground located directly across the street from the mansion. Although we have not yet determined the exact scope, cost, financing plan and timing of this project, we expect that the re-development of Graceland will take several years and will require a substantial financial investment by the Company.

We will continue to operate the RV park and campground in a manner consistent with historical use until such time as we commence our expansion of the Graceland property and experience.

There are a lot of forms filed with the SEC other than 10-K's, though. It would be easier to search if Patsy Anderson could say which one has the information about Sillerman having an option to buy Graceland.

[Suzan]

Very very well said. :D:D

I'm trying to also contact someone but may be til Monday, but soon as I do I will post their response to this "item".
It would have been nice for her to give more of a reason or proof of what she was saying and as she quit EPE 4 or so years ago (as I stated in prior post) she would not know what Lisa has been up to as they've had no contact, by Patsy's own acct. in her comments.:)

[Suzan]

Well, I've been looking at CKX's filings on the SEC website, and I haven't found anything
yet that says Sillerman has an option buy Graceland. This is what CKX's 10-K says about Graceland:

Graceland Operations

Graceland

We operate Graceland under the terms of a 90-year lease with The Promenade Trust, under which 88 years remain. We prepaid approximately $3.0 million of rent at closing of the acquisition of the Presley Business, and will make monthly payments of $1.00 per month during the term of the lease. We own all worldwide rights, title and interest in and to the name “Graceland,” which name may be used at additional themed locations as well as in Memphis, Tennessee.

Graceland Expansion

We have held meetings with government officials in Memphis, Tennessee regarding preliminary plans to re-develop and expand the Graceland attraction as the centerpiece of the Whitehaven section of Memphis, including building an expanded visitors center, developing new attractions and merchandising shops and building a new boutique convention hotel. This project is conditioned on a number of factors including obtaining necessary approvals and concessions from local and state authorities and attracting an appropriate hotel partner. While plans and designs have not been finalized, we have outlined significant aspects of the proposal to local government officials. In connection with these expansion plans, in 2006 we acquired 22.9 acres of additional land in the area immediately surrounding Graceland, including an 18.9 acre RV park and campground located directly across the street from the mansion. Although we have not yet determined the exact scope, cost, financing plan and timing of this project, we expect that the re-development of Graceland will take several years and will require a substantial financial investment by the Company.

We will continue to operate the RV park and campground in a manner consistent with historical use until such time as we commence our expansion of the Graceland property and experience.

There are a lot of forms filed with the SEC other than 10-K's, though. It would be easier to search if Patsy Anderson could say which one has the information about Sillerman having an option to buy Graceland.

Thank you....and she won't because it doesn't exist. :D

[KPM]

Well Patsy Anderson confirmed it. I guess it is only as reliable as her sources. But since she has some darn good sources, I tend to beleive it. Here is her response when asked. (on Patsy's site) Take it for what it is worth. No she wasn't lying when she did the King interview is was and still is hers now.

According to the SEC on the stockholders site, Lisa has offered Sillerman the option of buying the mansion, mansion grounds and mansion artifacts in January of 2008. However, at the Elvis Week Concert, Lisa announced there would be a very special announcement happening in 2008, so who knows? I don't know that the sell would change anything as Sillerman has the home, grounds and artifacts already leased for 90 years. I should be in in my wheelchair by the end of his lease. LOL I'm sure that Priscilla and Lisa would continue to be involved even after the sell; if there is a sell. The sell of the property would release Lisa from bills, insurance, upkeep, etc. but she would still be a part of the happenings there, I would think. I know this is sad news but we will all have to wait and see before getting upset about it. Lisa really is a wonderful person and really does love her father and family. I know she doesn't show her true self in public much but the times I have been with her, she has a good heart. I think the reason Priscilla is referred to as "widow" is that most reporters know very little about Elvis' private life or have forgotten about the divorce and don't bother to check it out before going on the air. I hope I haven't put everyone into a dumpster mood. If so, I am very sorry. Remember - Don't worry, Be Happy and let's wait for the announcement.
I would think a- "special announcement" -would mean something of an upbeat nature-so I would not think her selling the family home outright would be-"upbeat".
Since the total agreement between EPE, Lisa and Sillerman was announced I have never seem a full text of the legal contract which was agreed on-only a general press statement. The contract has to be much more in depth than the press statement-so the upkeep, taxes, insurance, etc...may very well be covered by the agreeement ( clauses for those things.)But since she got
around $150,000,000.00 to start with, and 15% of the profits made by Sillerman for the 90 years-surely she can afford the expenses of the home.(even if they were not included in the contract) I'm sure the operating expenses for the tours have to be included in the contract since Gracelands tours are the core of the whole thing.
I am not worried she might sell.

[KPM]

IMO, and I'm not sayin this will happen, but if they ever opened the upstairs at Graceland, knowin how bad the fans wanna see it, they'd set attendance record numbers of fans tourin the home all over again.

It would be like it is in August and Elvis Week, every week.:supriced:
IMO IT will never happen.

[Miss Clawdy]

:D Jth :D

First of all Patsy should post the link where she read this, second of all...Lisa stated that she will NEVER sell Graceland.
Patsy quit EPE 4 or so years ago...she wouldn't know crap from a hole in the ground....
The upkeep is nothing compared to what the tours generate so to use that as a reason is laughable.
Don't everyone get their knickers in a knot...only thing Lisa said was that she was planning something big for his BIRTHDAY, that's it...that didn't come to fruition for whatever reason, Pris said on Jan. 8th that nothing was changing, etc...
And there is a 90 yr. lease in place for operating the tours at the house....I'm sure upkeep was included in that.

I think (and really hope :lol:) you are right, Suzan :D. But what I find irritating is the 90 year lease Sillerman has right now, what is it including? Only the tours? And Lisa is still able to use the house like she wants? Otherwise she and even her kids wouldn't have any personal benefit of Graceland anymore, 90 years are a very long time...

[KPM]

IMO This is much ado about nothing. No one has come forward with an announcement that the sale is in the works for the home-no one from Sillerman, no one from Lisas side. An option usually means- price yet to be negotiated. So an option does not guarantee a sale-if the asking price is so high that it is not viable. Lisa has never ever suggested she would sell-things do change as has been stated-but I just don't think this is one of them.

[LianaKaralivanou]

I heard that Lisa said that she would never sell Graceland. I trully hope she hasn't changed her mind...

[Miss Clawdy]

Well said.(y)

Thank you Suzan :D

[cameron]

Here's Patsy's site and I didn't see anything about this .
You can look for yourselves :
http://www.patsyandersen.com/forums/index.php?sid=262b8e94f907516f4749f6bd01e012d4

IMO, it's all a bunch of BS.

[presley31]

Here's Patsy's site and I didn't see anything about this .
You can look for yourselves :
http://www.patsyandersen.com/forums/index.php?sid=262b8e94f907516f4749f6bd01e012d4

IMO, it's all a bunch of BS.

http://www.patsyandersen.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279

posted DEC 29 and near the bottom of page

[MissyM]

Oh and I can't believe this information started such a fever.

Looks like P-31 beat me to it.

[cameron]

http://www.patsyandersen.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279

posted DEC 29 and near the bottom of page

Thank you ,Jen and I stand corrected . Wait until I get ahold of her !! What utter BS, I don't care who says it !!

I always got along with Patsy, but we're about to have our first disagreement.

[presley31]

Thank you ,Jen and I stand corrected . Wait until I get ahold of her !! What utter BS, I don't care who says it !!

I always got along with Patsy, but we're about to have our first disagreement.

you be sure to ask where she got her information??

[cameron]

you be sure to ask where she got her information??

Oh yes. You can be sure of that !!

[KPM]

you be sure to ask where she got her information??
Doesn't her post say she got it from the SEC stockholders site?
SEC -A government commission created by Congress to regulate the securities markets and protect investors. In addition to regulation and protection, it also monitors the corporate takeovers in the U.S. The SEC is composed of five commissioners appointed by the U.S. President and approved by the Senate. The statutes administered by the SEC are designed to promote full public disclosure and to protect the investing public against fraudulent and manipulative practices in the securities markets. Generally, most issues of securities offered in interstate commerce, through the mail or on the internet, must be registered with the SEC.

[presley31]

Doesn't her post say she got it from the SEC stockholders site?
SEC -A government commission created by Congress to regulate the securities markets and protect investors. In addition to regulation and protection, it also monitors the corporate takeovers in the U.S. The SEC is composed of five commissioners appointed by the U.S. President and approved by the Senate. The statutes administered by the SEC are designed to promote full public disclosure and to protect the investing public against fraudulent and manipulative practices in the securities markets. Generally, most issues of securities offered in interstate commerce, through the mail or on the internet, must be registered with the SEC.

yes it does but l didn't see nothing when l looked on that website this morning.

[MissyM]

Here's some info I found. I don't know what it means but maybe that's where the confusion came. This is from the N.Y. Post but the info can be found on the SEC site too. The distribution of sale of stock set a date for Jan.

June 2, 2007 -- CKX Inc., owner of the "American Idol" brand and rights to the Muhammad Ali and Elvis Presley names, agreed to a $1.3 billion buyout led by CEO Robert Sillerman and "Idol" creator Simon Fuller.

The $13.75 per-share bid also offers investors a stake in affiliate FX Luxury Realty LLC, a developer that plans a chain of Elvis Presley casino resorts and hotels based on boxing champ Ali.



Fuller and Sillerman plan to develop themed attractions based on Ali and Presley, using FX Luxury Realty's stakes in the Riviera Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas and 18 acres of land there.

"We have come to realize that there is a substantial opportunity to capitalize on the Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali assets," Sillerman said in a statement.

FX Luxury Realty also plans to develop a hotel and other attractions adjacent to Presley's Graceland estate in Memphis, Tenn., CKX said in a regulatory filing.



Sillerman, Fuller and other managers have agreed to vote their shares in favor of bids that the board finds more favorable, the company said.

FX Luxury Realty is co-owned by Flag Luxury Properties LLC, 30 percent owned by Sillerman, CKX said in the regulatory filing.

CKX investors will end up owning a quarter of FX Luxury after a planned public offering.

[KPM]

yes it does but l didn't see nothing when l looked on that website this morning.
I'm assuming that since she says the "stockholders site" that the info is suppose to be in an area that only stockholders can access. That may mean you have to own stock in EPE or Sillermans company to get to the info. That is just a guess. Since I do not travel in those "stock circles" I am not familiar with the ins and outs of the site. :D

[presley31]

I'm assuming that since she says the "stockholders site" that the info is suppose to be in an area that only stockholders can access. That may mean you have to own stock in EPE or Sillermans company to get to the info. That is just a guess. Since I do not travel in those "stock circles" I am not familiar with the ins and outs of the site. :D

I agree , so this pasty must have access than? is that how it works?

[keke23]

Thank you ,Jen and I stand corrected . Wait until I get ahold of her !! What utter BS, I don't care who says it !!

I always got along with Patsy, but we're about to have our first disagreement.


You might wanna snap at the other poster, Chi-town first.

Theyr'e the ones to start the whole rumor.

That Patsy girl just posted what she knew.

[keke23]

I agree , so this pasty must have access than? is that how it works?

Probably so.

back in 05 or 06, there was a big deal goin on about outsiders bein able to invest in EPE and Sillerman's company, I forgot the name of it.

CKX

[MissyM]

Here's some more info. From CKX

http://ir.ckx.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=283083

Oh and Keke- how is the Chi-town's fault. All that was done it asking for clarification. Then I brought it here. Gees, I didn't know bringing information to be shown as rumor or truth was a crime.
Even if Lisa sold it, I don't see what the big deal is. She has no use for it.

[keke23]

I still don't see where it says Sillerman owns or is buyin out LMP for the mansion.

All I see is he owns 85% of the estate.

Maybe that's it.

Maybe LMP is givin him the option to buy up the other 15%?

That way he has 100% control over the business, and she still keeps ownership of the house in her name.

[presley31]

I'am starting to think its all about the money..

[Donut]

Even if Lisa sold it, I don't see what the big deal is. She has no use for it.

I agree with you on this. And I have to say neither I care who owns it because is not a house anymore.

[cameron]

You might wanna snap at the other poster, Chi-town first.

Theyr'e the ones to start the whole rumor.

That Patsy girl just posted what she knew.

I'm not on her site ....but, I saw all the ones involved .
It really doesn't say anything legally that Lisa was thinking of selling GL. Looks to me like what goes on every site......lots of gossip. ;)
I will talk to Patsy privately.

[MissyM]

Well really, if Sillerman owns 85 percent, and then sells some of the rites off to FX reality to the name and to help build it up, how much control does Lisa really have? She rents it to him and I am sure that he pretty much gets to do what he wants. And it seems so.
This is turning into a mega business and as far as I can see there is no stopping it. You either like it or don't. Also Lisa does not like the business end of things much. Does she even want to get involved in all that decision making?
And business is business and that's what Graceland is. Like I said she may as well sell it and save herself a lot of headaches. It just getting to big.
I don't know, I just can think of a good reason to not sell it-even if this is just rumor or misunderstanding. Will it really mean much to her kids? Does it now? And they have all the money they will ever want out of it in the future even if they don't own 15 percent.

[presley31]

Well really, if Sillerman owns 85 percent, and then sells some of the rites off to FX reality to the name and to help build it up, how much control does Lisa really have? She rents it to him and I am sure that he pretty much gets to do what he wants. And it seems so.
This is turning into a mega business and as far as I can see there is no stopping it. You either like it or don't. Also Lisa does not like the business end of things much. Does she even want to get involved in all that decision making?
And business is business and that's what Graceland is. Like I said she may as well sell it and save herself a lot of headaches. It just getting to big.
I don't know, I just can think of a good reason to not sell it-even if this is just rumor or misunderstanding. Will it really mean much to her kids? Does it now? And they have all the money they will ever want out of it in the future even if they don't own 15 percent.

doesn't look like her kids are interested in anything that has to do with elvis.

[cameron]

I can see Elvis ' fans viewpoint .But, I can also see the kids side of this.
They never knew Elvis and from what I've seen ; they're just normal kids . My kids or grandkids are not impressed by anyone. If I say someone is related to them; they just shrug ,say ok and go on. They never knew my dad and never was around my mother for any period of time. They are related to a US President, but it means nothing to them. {can't say I blame them;) }

IMO, Lisa wants to have Graceland to honor her father; but she's never wanted any part of running it.
Since it's now a National Archive ; I don't think she'll do a thing with it. Unless and until she's too old to care one way or another . At which time, I doubt most of us will be around either .

[KPM]

Well really, if Sillerman owns 85 percent, and then sells some of the rites off to FX reality to the name and to help build it up, how much control does Lisa really have? She rents it to him and I am sure that he pretty much gets to do what he wants. And it seems so.
This is turning into a mega business and as far as I can see there is no stopping it. You either like it or don't. Also Lisa does not like the business end of things much. Does she even want to get involved in all that decision making?
And business is business and that's what Graceland is. Like I said she may as well sell it and save herself a lot of headaches. It just getting to big.
I don't know, I just can think of a good reason to not sell it-even if this is just rumor or misunderstanding. Will it really mean much to her kids? Does it now? And they have all the money they will ever want out of it in the future even if they don't own 15 percent.
IMO Lisa loves her father (maybe not the way some feel she should, by her actions) So IMO that is a good reason not to sell it and the primary reason why I can not see her ever selling Graceland-outright. I can tell some people have no love for her-she is not their idea of "who Elvis's daughter should be"
They don't like her attitudes, her actions, nor her seeming lack of concern for all things Elvis. I can understand that-just don't agree with it. She is a person who has been in a no-win situation since she was born (with Elvis fans and the world at large) she is Elvis's daughter. Many want her to be,
"their vision of what they think Elvis would want her to be." She is her own person, love her or hate her. She should not have to live up to my, or anyone elses expectation of who and how she acts. I personally do not care for many things shes been involved in-but thats her. She would probably have a lot to say about my life-if it was played out for all the world to know.
IF she decided to sell-I would think its the wrong thing to do. But its hers to sell if she wants, its her life-it was her father.:blush:

[franny]

I'am starting to think its all about the money..


It usually is, Jen...

franny

[KPM]

doesn't look like her kids are interested in anything that has to do with elvis.
That does not mean they will stay that way.
Kids have a way of tuning out things when they are young-not showing appreciation for things they have little understanding of- But then later seeing what they could not see before. I know there was a lot as a kid that I thought was just a pain-but now see I was wrong.

[utmom2008]

I'am starting to think its all about the money..
:lol::lol::lol: What gave you that impression? ;);) :lmfao:

[utmom2008]

This is turning into a mega business and as far as I can see there is no stopping it. You either like it or don't. Also Lisa does not like the business end of things much. Does she even want to get involved in all that decision making?
And business is business and that's what Graceland is.

Great points Missy!:notworthy

[KPM]

I guess I am in the minority. I can see that Graceland has become a business, but I don't see how that makes it any less her father home to Lisa. I don't think because its a business that means Lisa loves her father less. I don't think because its a business that she is to blame for it being so. Elvis would have liked it different I'm sure we'd all agree. IMO In the best case scenerio he would have liked to have left his estate in much better financial shape than it was also, but it was not. Like I said I truely think some just do not like the Lisa they see, its not who they think Elvis's daughter should be. So no matter how she acts, or moves forward in her life-shes not going to win. I can't walk in her shoes nor see thru her eyes (to borrow some poetic words) to know her inner most thoughts about Graceland-but I'm sure they can't all be about profit and loss.

[MissyM]

That's the thing, I have nothing against Lisa. No I don't like some things about her or that she does. But I sure don't dislike her. I am looking at this objectively. Lisa never asked to have this much of a mega-business handed to her. It was given birth by Cilla. (I won't go down that road and comment) But it was done and there is no turning back. I don't think she is under any obligation to follow in her mother's footsteps any more than she is her fathers. And I think that is basically what a lot of people would like her to do. Maybe she was never cut out for this in the first place. I know I wouldn't be-no way. I know I wouldn't want the discisions, the pressure, the critism.
As for her ties or sentiments about Graceland: the mistique I am sure could be waning for her too. I mean how long can you revisit the memories of your childhood and hang on to them? (by way of a house that barely resembles it anymore) The house I think has become very impersonal and with Elvis's things but the whole aura of it, is changing. When does it go from being her home to a building that is mostly a business?
Lisa has a life, so separate from all of it. (as should be IMO) And I feel she has shown, by allowing her mother to always be at the forefront, how much she wants to be involved. Now that is going to be taken to a whole new level, I think it may just be far to over-whelming. I can understand that.
When I first heard she was selling 85 percent, my thought was; why hold on to 15 percent? (and his house and belongings) I guess that is why the idea does not upset me at all. I'm sorry, but I'm trying to understand those who are. Really I am.
Elvis/Graceland is a comodity and has been for a long while. To me a mere 15 percent gives me no comfort.
As I said, Lisa did not ask for this and if it causes more grief than solace, I would not blame her for letting go.

[Diane]

My initial reaction to hearing about Lisa possibly selling Graceland was very negative towards her. I'm the kind of person that holds on to anything sentimental for dear life. On the other hand, Graceland has been so changed into nothing more than a money making commodity and burden that it may have by this time ruined any emotional ties she had to it and not feel like her old home anymore.

She has to do what she has to do to make her own life easier. If she does decide to sell, it will more and more become less Elvis' home and I think eventually fans will stop going. I can see it now, Graceland filled like an emporium full of tacky memorabilia.

Diane

[MissyM]

I think it may happen weather she ever sells the rest or not. It seems by all accounts well on it's way. What do you think Diane?

[presley31]

My initial reaction to hearing about Lisa possibly selling Graceland was very negative towards her. I'm the kind of person that holds on to anything sentimental for dear life. On the other hand, Graceland has been so changed into nothing more than a money making commodity and burden that it may have by this time ruined any emotional ties she had to it and not feel like her old home anymore.

She has to do what she has to do to make her own life easier. If she does decide to sell, it will more and more become less Elvis' home and I think eventually fans will stop going. I can see it now, Graceland filled like an emporium full of tacky memorabilia.

Diane

l agree diane. l don't think l would want to visit there if stillerman owned graceland, who knows what he would do to the place:hmm: more tacky stuff l would think.

[MissyM]

Just like his career, his legacy is a freight-train out of control. There is no stopping it now. Matter of fact if I had more money I'd by some stock.

[presley31]

I really don't see graceland that bad yet, still looks good enough to visit for me.

[Getlo]

Just like his career, his legacy is a freight-train out of control. There is no stopping it now. Matter of fact if I had more money I'd by some stock.

Yes.

As I said months ago when most of EPE was sold off, Graceland will soon be Disneyland II, even if it doesn't have a theme park and rides across the road (which it probably will, eventually).

BS and his company = the death of the Graceland we once knew and loved. (n)

[presley31]

Yes.

As I said months ago when most of EPE was sold off, Graceland will soon be Disneyland II, even if it doesn't have a theme park and rides across the road (which it probably will, eventually).

BS and his company = the death of the Graceland we once knew and loved. (n)

If thats the case l better get there soon before they make it Disneyland

[Diane]

That's how I feel too Jen...hope we both make it. I do think that if this is all just a rumor and Lisa hangs onto the mansion it will always have at least the semblance of his home while it's still in her hands.

Diane

[MissyM]

I do hope that Diane but I'm a realist and logic tells me that she is in a precarious position here. If she was already paid the rent for years to come, she had to know there was a possibility of huge expansion. I'm not privy to all the details of the rental agreement. But as the owner I am not so willing to play down her liabilities in this, such as taxes and ect. For her to keep it in her name, I would think that the bigger it gets the more expensive it may be for her too. That alone will eat into her profit margin. So it makes sense that she would have to allow a lot in order to offset that. I could be wrong but as I said, I'm going by logic. Everytime a change is made such as an update and new facilities, there are years before that actually turns a large enough profit margin. How much of that financial responsibility lies on Lisa is unknown. I'm just bringing up the possiblity of it being more than she would care to take on, risk, while considering her children's financial future.