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TotallyInsane
01-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Found a new video on Elvis' funeral. Also posted some of my own pictures and an article from the Memphis newspaper.

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TotallyInsane
01-20-2008, 05:13 PM
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john carpenter
01-20-2008, 06:19 PM
My aunt had a scarf from Elvis' last concert in Lakeland' Florida. She died a few years ago. She kept it in a plastic bag. She knew how big a fan i was but she never said i could have it if something happened to her. I plan to ask her son if they still have it,and if i can keep it as a reminder of her and the last show he gave here.

TotallyInsane
01-20-2008, 06:24 PM
I hope they still have it and will give it to you! I'm leaving my scarves to my 2 boys and they better darn well take care of them!!! :D

Wendy56
01-22-2008, 11:27 PM
Piece of history here, TotallyInsane! TY very much for sharing!

Diane
01-23-2008, 07:17 AM
Thanks for the newspaper clippings and photos Gail. It was very nice of you to share these with us....sad day!


Diane

CRITTERGITTER
01-23-2008, 07:41 AM
One of the interesting things for me is looking at all the trees that were on that highway then. I don't think there is any to be found now except on Graceland. Sometimes progress is not a good thing.

LORRIELOVESELVIS
01-23-2008, 12:25 PM
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ! MY THINGS THAT I HAVE FROM ELVIS CONCERTS WILL BE HANDED DOWN TO MY GROWN CHLIDREN AN ETC,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GOD BLESS OUR ELVIS PRESLEY :D(y)

ksimms2
01-23-2008, 12:52 PM
Gail? Those are you in those clippings? Wow! That is certainly a piece of history. What a long trip you made and my good ness at how many times you were able to see him!!! WOW!!!! Lucky girl!!! But so sad about the funeral, etc. I can't even imagine being there then....I would have been crying my eyes out......heck I still cry over Elvis.

TotallyInsane
01-23-2008, 05:28 PM
Gail? Those are you in those clippings? Wow! That is certainly a piece of history. What a long trip you made and my good ness at how many times you were able to see him!!! WOW!!!! Lucky girl!!! But so sad about the funeral, etc. I can't even imagine being there then....I would have been crying my eyes out......heck I still cry over Elvis.

Yeah, that's me in those clippings. I have no idea how it happened that I was in the newspaper twice with there being 70,000 other people there! Absolutely the one of the worse days of my life!!!

ksimms2
01-23-2008, 05:36 PM
Yeah, that's me in those clippings. I have no idea how it happened that I was in the newspaper twice with there being 70,000 other people there! Absolutely the one of the worse days of my life!!!

well it was the saddest day of your life - but now you have something to hold onto and cherish.....think of the thousands and millions of elvis fans....and you were in the spotlight showing how much you love him. That is certainly something to cherish.

john carpenter
01-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Gail i think i have some clipings from The Memphis Press Scimitar.. i'll see if i can find you, and get back to you on that.

toffe
01-26-2008, 06:08 AM
Than you for sharing!

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 07:22 AM
Gail i think i have some clipings from The Memphis Press Scimitar.. i'll see if i can find you, and get back to you on that.


Hey John,
I think they made reprints of that newspaper and in the reprints, the picture of me is not there but the little article is. I don't think the picture of me leaving the mansion is in the reprints either. If you have an original from 8/18/77 then I think you'll see me. I'm not even sure if these papers can be found anymore because I think this paper was bought out by the Commercial Appeal? Does anyone know for sure if this is what happened? Unfortunately, I only had one newspaper and cut it up for my scrapbook - so really wish I could find another one all together. Wish I had not cut it up but as a teenager never thought about it.

Tony Trout
01-26-2008, 07:44 AM
Here's a website that has (for those of you who've never seen it or it's been a while) a good amount of coverage from 8/16/77-8/18/77:

Elvis Week 2007 Video Vault (http://www.wmctv.com/global/Category.asp?C=107372)

Ironically, up until someone posted the link to this site over at FECC I had not seen a lot of footage from the funeral.....

Tommy
01-26-2008, 08:55 AM
Thank you for the photos what a sad day thank you for going and you had such an experience of this day, I have the whole newspaper from that very sad day.

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 10:53 AM
Unfortunately, I only had one newspaper and cut it up for my scrapbook - so really wish I could find another one all together. Wish I had not cut it up but as a teenager never thought about it.

I pulled out my scrapbooks not long ago...it was fascinating to re-read everything. I have all the Vegas newspaper reviews from the morning after each opening night, plus all the concert reviews from Dallas, Ft. Worth and Houston. I've got lots of Hilton goodies..one with Charlie's autograph. I know I can't scan all this stuff, but at least we were smart enough to save it in scrapbooks!(y)

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 10:57 AM
well it was the saddest day of your life - but now you have something to hold onto and cherish.....think of the thousands and millions of elvis fans....and you were in the spotlight showing how much you love him. That is certainly something to cherish.
Kelly....Gail and I both have been meaning to tell you a very heartfelt Thank-you! If you had not helped me with my Rosanne loves Elvis banner, chances are Gail wouldn't have noticed and we wouldn't have come together again after nearly 30 years!
:clap: :clap: :hug: :hug:

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 11:03 AM
I hope they still have it and will give it to you! I'm leaving my scarves to my 2 boys and they better darn well take care of them!!! :D
You are nicer than me Gail.....I have told my 2 kids not to worry over which one will get my scarf, I'm taking mine with me. :clap:

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 11:29 AM
You are nicer than me Gail.....I have told my 2 kids not to worry over which one will get my scarf, I'm taking mine with me. :clap:

Hey, that's an excellent thought!!! They can just buy me an extra big box and pack it all away with me!!!!(y)(y)

Thank you buddy!!:notworthy:notworthy

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Kelly....Gail and I both have been meaning to tell you a very heartfelt Thank-you! If you had not helped me with my Rosanne loves Elvis banner, chances are Gail wouldn't have noticed and we wouldn't have come together again after nearly 30 years!
:clap: :clap: :hug: :hug:

Yes, Kelly, thank you very much!! I must admit it was the banner that made me read her post again about the rodeo!! And, then I read where she had taped both shows - I just kept thinking it had to be her - surely there weren't 2 Rosannes that had done that!!! Did ya'll know that Rosanne and I were the reason video recorders were invented?? We used to tape on cassette recorders sitting next to the television EVERY single Elvis movie on t.v. Then, we would just sit and listen to the movies - ooohhhh just to hear him talk. Somewhere along the line someone heard about us and thought "now they need to be able to see that gorgeous man too" so they invented video recorders. Aren't ya'll glad??? :lol::lol::lol:

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 11:50 AM
Here's a story I wrote a couple of years ago about that day in August. I wish I had written this down sooner as I lost so many memories about that trip somewhere in the last 30 years.


I was at my aunt's house the day he died. When I found out I left my aunt's house and went to my mom's house. We left that night around 9:00 p.m. and my grandfather was not happy!! He just couldn't understand why we were going. I was 18 and had a 1976 Camaro and believe me, nothing was going to stop me. I got stopped immediately after getting out of Houston because I was missing a headlight. Had Elvis bumper stickers all over my bumper and the highway patrol asked me where we were going. It just popped out my mouth, not even thinking...and I said a funeral. He said oh really, who died? At that point I realized what I had said so I had to say my uncle. Needless to say, I'm sure he didn't believe me but he told me to stop at the next town and get my light fixed and he would let me go. Mom started driving in the wee hours of the morning. We were just around West Memphis when Mom woke me up and said they had just announced that they were going to let the fans in to view the body. I told her "let me drive". We got to Graceland and there was a crowd forming but it wasn't too bad yet. We parked the car and got in line. As the day went on, it got hotter and the crowd got bigger. At sometime during that day, a reporter from the Memphis newspaper came through the crowd and interviewed me because I was holding a red rose to take up the driveway. There was an article in the newspaper the next day with my picture holding the rose. It was getting pretty late in the afternoon and you couldn't move. I felt as if I was passing out and the crowd picked me up and passed me to 2 paramedics. My mom couldn't get through so we got separated at that point. They took me in to the grounds and I laid on the ground under a tree and drank some water. After I started feeling better I waited for my mom to get in but never saw her. I finally got up and got in the line to go in the house. I went in the front door and was nothing more but in a complete daze. There were people on the stairs and on both ends of the casket but I couldn't tell you who they were when I walked out the door...my mind was just empty. As I was walking back down the driveway my mom yelled out to me and she was headed up the driveway...so I made a u-turn and got back with her and went back up. We saw Lisa up by the house going towards the back of the house with a man. Again, as I left the house I couldn't tell you who was there as I just couldn't take my eyes off the casket. My mom told me Linda Thompson was sitting on the staircase. As we went back down the driveway we both really couldn't believe how much of a younger Elvis he appeared to look. Since the Shriners were in town for a convention and all the Elvis people pouring in, there was no place to get a room. Across the street from Graceland was a shopping center (not the Elvis shops that are there now). We had no choice but to just stay in the car. I got on the hood of the car to sleep because it was so hot and there were probably 300 other Elvis fans in the parking lot so I wasn't scared. Sometime during the early hours I was woke up by people running and screaming and in a daze I walked to the edge of the street and asked some people standing there what had happened. They told me 2 girls just got ran over. Since I had very few hours sleep I just wasn't awake. I walked back to my car and went back to sleep...I really think it was more of just an emotional shock of everything that caused me to go back to my car and sleep. I can't even tell you how much my body was just going through the motions...I don't even remember eatting the whole time we were there...I know we did but I have no idea where or what. The next morning we took our place on the curb over by the building that used to be the church. The day started, the heat started and you can't even imagine how rough that day was. When the funeral procession started coming out the driveway, people started running out into the street but the cops were quick to get them back. As the cars passed all you could do was try and see the cars through the tears. I'm sure it was loud but I can honestly tell you I didn't hear a thing...it was a slow motion soundless movie. We stood there and watched until the last car was out of sight. I've never written anything about that day or that trip and the simple reason is there aren't any words that can tell you what it was like. The next day before we left we went to the cemetary and they were giving the hundreds of thousands of flowers away to the fans. My mom and I each got a flower and began the long drive home. I still have my flower in my bible. He will always be one of the most special people in my life. As sad as this may sound, he has been more a part of my life than many of my own family members and definitely has given me much more happiness. The memories I have of seeing him live in concert 25 times during 1970-1977 are memories that will forever make me smile!
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utmom2008
01-26-2008, 12:36 PM
He will always be one of the most special people in my life. As sad as this may sound, he has been more a part of my life than many of my own family members and definitely has given me much more happiness.

Gail, you took the words right out of my mouth. His memories are so much a part of my life that I am unable to seperate him, from the rest of my childhood memories. It seemed at the time that my only worry or concern I ever had was.....when will I see him again. I wouldn't take a million dollars for my memories of him, or what he has always meant to me. He has always been, and will continue to be, a huge part of who I am.....:blush:

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 12:43 PM
Did ya'll know that Rosanne and I were the reason video recorders were invented?? We used to tape on cassette recorders sitting next to the television EVERY single Elvis movie on t.v. Then, we would just sit and listen to the movies - ooohhhh just to hear him talk. Somewhere along the line someone heard about us and thought "now they need to be able to see that gorgeous man too" so they invented video recorders. Aren't ya'll glad??? :lol::lol::lol:

OMG..:lol: Some of the crazy stuff we used to do....how much fun did we have?:lol: We would get in trouble for our long distance phone bills....we would actually listen to our homemade tapes over the phone...long distance!!

I've thought the same thing about VCR's....and I am still waiting on those royalty checks.:lol:(y)

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 12:50 PM
OMG..:lol: Some of the crazy stuff we used to do....how much fun did we have?:lol: We would get in trouble for our long distance phone bills....we would actually listen to our homemade tapes over the phone...long distance!!

I've thought the same thing about VCR's....and I am still waiting on those royalty checks.:lol:(y)

All I can is "THOSE WERE THE DAYS"!!!

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 12:56 PM
All I can is "THOSE WERE THE DAYS"!!!
They truly were, weren't they? Guess what I remembered the other day? My Mom and Dad let me call you from the Hilton on the morning of Aug. 7th, 1973 to tell you about the night before.....(y)(y)

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 12:59 PM
So, I have an idea dear friend!! Whatcha say let's do a Vegas weekend together? How cool would that be???

LianaKaralivanou
01-26-2008, 01:00 PM
Gail, the way you described that day is fantastic. It's as If I were there myself and saw it with my own eyes. Thank you for sharing your memories with us.

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 01:02 PM
They truly were, weren't they? Guess what I remembered the other day? My Mom and Dad let me call you from the Hilton on the morning of Aug. 7th, 1973 to tell you about the night before.....(y)(y)

Was I screaming??? :D:D
You know what I thought about the other day? Imagine the fits we would throw today if one of our kids came up and said "I want to go spend the weekend with my internet pen pal in Dallas"!! I'm sure we would have just jumped right on that - my how things have changed! I don't think my grandparents thought twice about me going to visit you in Dallas!!! Just made me chuckle!!

utmom2008
01-26-2008, 01:43 PM
Was I screaming??? :D:D
You know what I thought about the other day? Imagine the fits we would throw today if one of our kids came up and said "I want to go spend the weekend with my internet pen pal in Dallas"!! I'm sure we would have just jumped right on that - my how things have changed! I don't think my grandparents thought twice about me going to visit you in Dallas!!! Just made me chuckle!!
Yeh..we would think our kids had met up with some "unsavory character". :lol: My Mother remembered that as soon as we got home from you getting on the plane at Love Field that she called your Grandmother and let her know that you were safely on your way back. (y) Tired probably...I don't think we slept the entire weekend..:lol: too much Elvis to see and do!! :D:D

john carpenter
01-26-2008, 05:36 PM
I have The Commercial Appeal and The Memphis Press Scimitar dated August 17,1977. I'm pretty sure there's an acticle about you in there but no photo i can see. Mine has the news about the Women who were hit by that car on Elvis Presley Blvd. But you are a piece of history (sad as it was) Did you actually see Elvis? And if so, how close did you get? The reason i'm asking Totally Insane is.. Tanya tuckers' sister Lacosta went by the casket and said" it didn,t look like him. What do you think? Just curious.

john carpenter
01-26-2008, 05:43 PM
You just answered my previous question ..WOW ..That was a great story. MOst people that filed by the casket(like you)said he looked younger. That's really strange. But, i'm not saying he didn't die that day. i just was curious. Thank you sweetheart i appreciate your input.

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 06:04 PM
I have The Commercial Appeal and The Memphis Press Scimitar dated August 17,1977. I'm pretty sure there's an acticle about you in there but no photo i can see. Mine has the news about the Women who were hit by that car on Elvis Presley Blvd. But you are a piece of history (sad as it was) Did you actually see Elvis? And if so, how close did you get? The reason i'm asking Totally Insane is.. Tanya tuckers' sister Lacosta went by the casket and said" it didn,t look like him. What do you think? Just curious.

Hi John,
I think it would have been the one dated 8/18/77. Do you have that one? I don't think we even got a newspaper on the 17th while there.
But, in answer to your question, I really did think it did not look like a 70's Elvis, more of a 60's Elvis! To be very honest, it haunted me a very long time and I had doubts back then - but I think I was just in denial!

john carpenter
01-26-2008, 06:17 PM
No TotallyInsane(gail) Mine says August 17th. It has lots of articles from the 16th thru the 19th. I'm sure there's the article about you,it has everything else about his death ,funeral ect, I'll keep looking.i'll find ya..LOL

dave the rave
01-26-2008, 06:36 PM
Love your stories Gail never tire of them!

cameron
01-26-2008, 06:52 PM
Love your stories Gail never tire of them!

I'm enjoying them too. Great detail and emotion.
I get a kick out of them. (y)

TotallyInsane
01-26-2008, 07:04 PM
Love your stories Gail never tire of them!


Hey Dave,
How you been? I saw that pic of you on the EI dancing your heart away - fun times I had at some of those dances!!!

Tony Trout
01-26-2008, 11:16 PM
Hi John,
I think it would have been the one dated 8/18/77. Do you have that one? I don't think we even got a newspaper on the 17th while there.
But, in answer to your question, I really did think it did not look like a 70's Elvis, more of a 60's Elvis! To be very honest, it haunted me a very long time and I had doubts back then - but I think I was just in denial!


It didn't look like a 1970s Elvis because his family had requested that he look like he did in the 1950s...which was a very strange request if you ask me...but the Memphis funeral home did a very good job of accomplishing that feat.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 04:54 AM
It didn't look like a 1970s Elvis because his family had requested that he look like he did in the 1950s...which was a very strange request if you ask me...but the Memphis funeral home did a very good job of accomplishing that feat.

Now, this is the first time I've heard that story. Where did you read that?

Getlo
01-27-2008, 05:09 AM
MOst people that filed by the casket(like you)said he looked younger. That's really strange.

That's not strange in the least.

If a mortician has done their job right, then faces of corpses naturally look younger than when the person was alive.

Same with the "sweat" on corpses: all corpses do this if they are on open showing after the mortician. It is simply beads of moisture because the body has come from a freezer into warmer air. Hence, the ridiculous theories about it being a wax dummy in the coffin, and not Elvis.

Getlo
01-27-2008, 05:09 AM
It didn't look like a 1970s Elvis because his family had requested that he look like he did in the 1950s...which was a very strange request if you ask me...

Where's this from? ;)

And he looked perfectly 70s to me in the coffin ...

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 05:51 AM
So, you think his nose looked right?

Getlo
01-27-2008, 05:55 AM
So, you think his nose looked right?

As has been discussed endlessly - here and elsewhere - the original photo taken of Elvis in his coffin was too dark for publication, so it was slightly - and I mean slightly - doctored by the National Inquirer for its biggest-selling issue. The tip of the nose was probably badly edited.

There is no (serious) doubt as to the photo's authenticity.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 06:00 AM
Sorry I missed the previous discussions on this. But, in my opinion, if that was the case I think it was more than slightly.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 06:09 AM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/896080/enjoyinghimself77.jpg

Tony Trout
01-27-2008, 06:32 AM
Now, this is the first time I've heard that story. Where did you read that?


Where's this from? ;)

And he looked perfectly 70s to me in the coffin ...


To answer your questions: I got that answer from a man who spoke with one of the four embalmers who worked on Elvis.

Getlo
01-27-2008, 06:47 AM
Sorry I missed the previous discussions on this. But, in my opinion, if that was the case I think it was more than slightly.

The only doctoring was for the tones between the black and the white of the photograph.

Elvis' features were shown in the coffin as they were.

Some fans - a few on here, in fact - will tell you the whole photo is faked ("it was proven fake years ago") but this is simply wrong.

The photo is real.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 07:02 AM
I totally believe the photo is real. But, I do see a definite difference in the nose.

cameron
01-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Sorry I missed the previous discussions on this. But, in my opinion, if that was the case I think it was more than slightly.

No sense arguing about this, Gail. But, I agree with you .
It doesn't look like EP and reasons have been given by many .Some just scream louder than others .;)
You saw him; you know what you saw.
Trust yourself . (y)

Getlo
01-27-2008, 08:37 AM
I totally believe the photo is real.

Good. The photo is real. It is Elvis.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 08:40 AM
Good. The photo is real. It is Elvis.

So, because the photo is real - does that really prove it was Elvis???? :doh:

:D just kidding!!!

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 08:47 AM
Getlo,
Did I misunderstand an earlier post by you or were you there when he died?

Getlo
01-27-2008, 08:58 AM
Getlo,
Did I misunderstand an earlier post by you or were you there when he died?

Huh?


And he looked perfectly 70s to me in the coffin ...

... in the coffin photo.

Er, no I wasn't there.

More's the pity. ;)

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 09:04 AM
Yeah, that was what I read that made me think you were there.
Did you ever get to see Elvis?

cameron
01-27-2008, 09:04 AM
I think because of the "Elvis Alive" stories that went around in the '80's and '90's ,some get all excited when the photo is questioned. I don't believe "Elvis didn't die"
but neither do I believe that pic wasn't "doctored" either.
To each their own ...

utmom2008
01-27-2008, 01:49 PM
I totally believe the photo is real. But, I do see a definite difference in the nose.
Gail....you and I talked about this on the phone the other night. You made the comment that his nose looked different at the time he was in the casket, not just the photo, right? And...you did file past him twice. :hmm:

utmom2008
01-27-2008, 01:52 PM
To answer your questions: I got that answer from a man who spoke with one of the four embalmers who worked on Elvis.
That's interesting Tony...I have never heard that one before. It's hard for a 42 year old to look like a 21 year old. What an odd request. :hmm: If that is truly what they wanted then they must have been dissapointed. (n)

jak
01-27-2008, 03:10 PM
The fans who think Elvis should have looked as he did in life while laying in his coffin are mistaken.I cant recall many people who actually looked good while laying dead in their coffin.Usually the features appear stretched or something else just isnt right.Particulary if they have had an autopsy performed.Elvis' image while alive is burned into the fans mind.That's the image they expect when viewing the photo or if they attended the viewing.
Jak

utmom2008
01-27-2008, 03:25 PM
The fans who think Elvis should have looked as he did in life while laying in his coffin are mistaken.I cant recall many people who actually looked good while laying dead in their coffin.Usually the features appear stretched or something else just isnt right.Particulary if they have had an autopsy performed.Elvis' image while alive is burned into the fans mind.That's the image they expect when viewing the photo or if they attended the viewing.
Jak
Yes...you are right Jak. I realize that for some people they need to see their loved one in the casket for it to really sink in and give them closure. Not me.....I won't make that mistake again. I saw my Dad in the casket, almost 18 years ago, and it will forever be burned in my memory. I didn't need the closure, and I wish I hadn't chosen to see him...

john carpenter
01-27-2008, 03:36 PM
Yes,That's true enough. My cousin was murdered in 1985. And if i didn't know better i would say it wasn't him. Considering the circumstances i wish it wasn't. I know it hurts Lisa Marie when they say her Dad's Alive. For one thing Elvis wouldn't go through all that trouble to make people think he's dead,and he wasn't that coldhearted to make his loved ones believe he;s dead.

cameron
01-27-2008, 04:24 PM
My family that's passed away looked like themselves in their casket. It was "closure" for me .
Even my mother . They'd fixed her hair in a way she never wore it--so I threw a fit and did it myself.
She died one year after Elvis. :'(

cameron
01-27-2008, 04:31 PM
That's interesting Tony...I have never heard that one before. It's hard for a 42 year old to look like a 21 year old. What an odd request. :hmm: If that is truly what they wanted then they must have been dissapointed. (n)
I've never heard such a request either . Oh my !!
The only thing I know of Vernon saying was the clothes he wanted Elvis dressed in , he gave the funeral director the names of the pallbearers and that he'd bought a crypt to put Elvis in and wanted Gladys moved to it too.

TotallyInsane
01-27-2008, 04:55 PM
Gail....you and I talked about this on the phone the other night. You made the comment that his nose looked different at the time he was in the casket, not just the photo, right? And...you did file past him twice. :hmm:

I'm not crazy and no I don't believe he's alive but I will say here in front of everyone - my mom and I were walking back down the driveway talking about how it did not look like him. We didn't come back to Texas and talk about it with anyone because we didn't want to be committed.
Yes, I loved him and no I didn't want it to be him. And, yes I was in a daze but I left Memphis with a big old ? in my head as to all of it! What happened? Why? Couldn't somebody have done something? What in the heck am I gonna do with my life now? That last one is not meant to be funny either cause I was going to move to Memphis and go to the University of Memphis and stalk Elvis!! My whole life took a new direction at that point! The good news is I would have never met my husband had I moved to Memphis. And, I do lovvveeeeee my hubby!!!! Even though he told me once I'm not stupid I know you'd be gone if Elvis was here and asked you to go...:)
He's such a great guy to be so understanding, don't you think?:supriced:

Tony Trout
01-27-2008, 08:24 PM
That's interesting Tony...I have never heard that one before. It's hard for a 42 year old to look like a 21 year old. What an odd request. :hmm: If that is truly what they wanted then they must have been dissapointed. (n)

I agree. I've heard various accounts of how Elvis actually looked....



I've never heard such a request either . Oh my !!
The only thing I know of Vernon saying was the clothes he wanted Elvis dressed in , he gave the funeral director the names of the pallbearers and that he'd bought a crypt to put Elvis in and wanted Gladys moved to it too.

I'll talk to my friend again and get some clarification.

Donut
01-28-2008, 06:12 AM
I can´t see what is wrong with the picture... it looks to be touched up a little for lighting reasons but if I found that picture without knowing it exists I wouldn´t hesitate a moment, it looks completely like Elvis.

Suzan
01-30-2008, 01:30 PM
This is a real photo and there is no difference in the nose, if you look at pics of Elvis w/his head tilted up while alive it's the same, I don't think the Enquirer doctored it at all...they just played w/the light to get the pic to be not so dark.

cameron
01-30-2008, 01:45 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/stevens.jpg

presley31
01-30-2008, 01:52 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/stevens.jpg

Thanks for posting cameron.

Suzan
01-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Hmm interesting how he died w/o saying a word but this person felt compelled to say something about this how many decades later? The pic was dark yes, but by all accts. NOT touched up to the degree stated, just lightened. I have a better shot of it then what appears on the Enquirer and it is not a touched up photo.

john carpenter
01-30-2008, 02:44 PM
It was strange most eveyone that filed passed the casket that day said the same thing, "it didnt look like him". Even Linda Thompsons' mother said "i bet he's in the bahamas. I didn't see Elvis in the casket but it's weird that so many people claim it wasn't him. There was a rumor that they were going to exume the casket to put to rest the rumor that he wasn't dead. Does anyone believe this? And would anyone believe it if the dug up the casket. They were going to do the same thing with Billy the Kid.

Suzan
01-30-2008, 02:56 PM
They won't exhume him and I've not ever read that acct. of Linda's mom....
I think people didn't see Elvis in the coffin because they didn't want to.

cameron
01-30-2008, 02:58 PM
This has nothing to do with the Elvis Alive thing. Just that the picture was doctored. I wouldn't want to see anything done to any gravesite.
IMO, that would be going too far .

Linda Thompson is on video saying what her mother said.
I've never read it anywhere either.

utmom2008
01-30-2008, 03:21 PM
My family that's passed away looked like themselves in their casket.

Then I think you have been very lucky.....there are very few viewings that I've been to where I thought the corpse looked like them selves. I will never forget about 10 years ago, my good friend's daughter passed away during childbirth at the age of 22. The labor had put too much strain on her heart. But, to me, even at the young age of 22 she didn't look like herself....:blush:

utmom2008
01-30-2008, 03:22 PM
I have a better shot of it then what appears on the Enquirer and it is not a touched up photo.

Is that a pic that you can post Suzan?:blink::blush:

utmom2008
01-30-2008, 03:24 PM
This is a real photo and there is no difference in the nose, if you look at pics of Elvis w/his head tilted up while alive it's the same

But, the nose has been the arguing point now for over 30 years....:hmm:

Suzan
01-30-2008, 04:54 PM
Yes I know it's been the arguing point, but I don't think it's a valid argument.

Nope I won't post that pic publicly....I did scan it recently for a good friend....I can send it privately to you as well if you wish.

TotallyInsane
01-30-2008, 05:56 PM
They won't exhume him and I've not ever read that acct. of Linda's mom....
I think people didn't see Elvis in the coffin because they didn't want to.

I'll find the video where Linda says that her mom said that - this is true and documented. I went past the casket twice and I know what I saw. I wouldn't even tell my mom my thoughts until she had viewed the body. I don't understand how people who weren't even there can have such first hand information and try to convince others that the ones that were didn't see what they thought they saw? I never said I didn't see Elvis in the coffin I said I didn't see a 1977 Elvis! I saw a much younger Elvis. And, yes the nose has been a topic of many many conversations. Wait, let me go find some boxes and find that picture I took of him that morning laying down when he first woke up!! :hmm:

presley31
01-30-2008, 05:59 PM
I'll find the video where Linda says that her mom said that - this is true and documented. I went past the casket twice and I know what I saw. I wouldn't even tell my mom my thoughts until she had viewed the body. I don't understand how people who weren't even there can have such first hand information and try to convince others that the ones that were didn't see what they thought they saw? I never said I didn't see Elvis in the coffin I said I didn't see a 1977 Elvis! I saw a much younger Elvis. And, yes the nose has been a topic of many many conversations. Wait, let me go find some boxes and find that picture I took of him that morning laying down when he first woke up!! :hmm:

I take you word for it cause you were there and saw what elvis turly looked like at that time(y)

SweetCaroline
01-30-2008, 08:16 PM
Then I think you have been very lucky.....there are very few viewings that I've been to where I thought the corpse looked like them selves. I will never forget about 10 years ago, my good friend's daughter passed away during childbirth at the age of 22. The labor had put too much strain on her heart. But, to me, even at the young age of 22 she didn't look like herself....:blush:

Rosanne......I don't believe in open casket either.:blink: I know it is a tradition for many people, but for my own life ....absolutely not. Remember me as I am walking and breathing....please.

As for the nose thing. Didn't Elvis hurt his nose during the heart attack. Couldn't that be part of the problem here we are all discussing?

Getlo
01-31-2008, 04:17 AM
Thanks for posting cameron.


That scanned article proves only one thing - that some bloke from a hick town in Queensland, Australia thought the picture was fake!

Meaningless ...

The picture was real.

cameron
01-31-2008, 04:41 AM
That scanned article proves only one thing - that some bloke from a hick town in Queensland, Australia thought the picture was fake!

Meaningless ...

The picture was real.

Perhaps you can run him down in your spare time and tell him about it. ;)

cibetty
01-31-2008, 05:13 AM
Yes...you are right Jak. I realize that for some people they need to see their loved one in the casket for it to really sink in and give them closure. Not me.....I won't make that mistake again. I saw my Dad in the casket, almost 18 years ago, and it will forever be burned in my memory. I didn't need the closure, and I wish I hadn't chosen to see him...

You are so right Rosanne, I totally agree with you in this thing. :hug: The first person I saw in casket was my great-grandmother, she was 91 years old, she died in '92. And the second one was my father in 1992 (in the same year), he was 37 and I was 14. I didn't know what I will see I just felt that I wanted to see him so much. And I feel the same, I wish I hadn't seen him, because I can never get out of my mind what I saw then. I didn't see my grandfather when he died in 2004, I didn't want to see him. Somebody always has to identify the dead person before the funeral, but I think I will never be able to do this. There was some funerals in our family since then, but I was never able to see the person who died. That pic of Elvis in the casket really shocked me, I couldn't believe he looked so young. It is good there is only one pic about this, I think it is quite enough. Best to you, many hugs :hug: :hug: :
Betti

Miss Clawdy
01-31-2008, 11:20 AM
I'll find the video where Linda says that her mom said that - this is true and documented. I went past the casket twice and I know what I saw. I wouldn't even tell my mom my thoughts until she had viewed the body. I don't understand how people who weren't even there can have such first hand information and try to convince others that the ones that were didn't see what they thought they saw? I never said I didn't see Elvis in the coffin I said I didn't see a 1977 Elvis! I saw a much younger Elvis. And, yes the nose has been a topic of many many conversations. Wait, let me go find some boxes and find that picture I took of him that morning laying down when he first woke up!! :hmm:

Here's a video where Linda says what her mother has said...

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=dyaJnZjTu6s

MissyM
01-31-2008, 01:11 PM
I think her mother was just referring to the rumors and slightly in jest.

Suzan
01-31-2008, 03:33 PM
I'll find the video where Linda says that her mom said that - this is true and documented. I went past the casket twice and I know what I saw. I wouldn't even tell my mom my thoughts until she had viewed the body. I don't understand how people who weren't even there can have such first hand information and try to convince others that the ones that were didn't see what they thought they saw? I never said I didn't see Elvis in the coffin I said I didn't see a 1977 Elvis! I saw a much younger Elvis. And, yes the nose has been a topic of many many conversations. Wait, let me go find some boxes and find that picture I took of him that morning laying down when he first woke up!! :hmm:

All I said was that I'd never seen her say that...not meant to cause an argument...just a fact that I never did, not that it was not said.
Nor did I question what you saw, my comment was in general....no I did not file past the casket, not many did...but I did see the pic in question and to me it does not look doctored and if you would like I will scan the pic of him w/his head tilted back, no difference in the nose....that is all I am saying, I don't see the pic in question as being doctored.
I am not questioning, nor do I care to hear the details of the Elvis in the coffin....you saw him twice, fine....again just so we are clear my comment was in general.

utmom2008
01-31-2008, 03:55 PM
Rosanne......I don't believe in open casket either.:blink: I know it is a tradition for many people, but for my own life ....absolutely not. Remember me as I am walking and breathing....please.

I completely agree with you Carole....100%:!::!:

presley31
01-31-2008, 04:02 PM
Here is another picture l saw on www.rareelvispresley.com

Looks bit more clear than the other photo.

utmom2008
01-31-2008, 04:18 PM
Here is another picture l saw on www.rareelvispresley.com

Looks bit more clear than the other photo.
This one is much clearer.....but which photo is at the correct angle? Thanks for the post!

presley31
01-31-2008, 04:34 PM
Not sure what angle is correct, but here' some pictures l found on the net

Tony Trout
01-31-2008, 05:39 PM
Here is another picture l saw on www.rareelvispresley.com (http://www.rareelvispresley.com)

Looks bit more clear than the other photo.


Not sure what angle is correct, but here' some pictures l found on the net


The artificially colored" photo and the other black and white pic are reversed....

TotallyInsane
01-31-2008, 07:22 PM
All I said was that I'd never seen her say that...not meant to cause an argument...just a fact that I never did, not that it was not said.
Nor did I question what you saw, my comment was in general....no I did not file past the casket, not many did...but I did see the pic in question and to me it does not look doctored and if you would like I will scan the pic of him w/his head tilted back, no difference in the nose....that is all I am saying, I don't see the pic in question as being doctored.
I am not questioning, nor do I care to hear the details of the Elvis in the coffin....you saw him twice, fine....again just so we are clear my comment was in general.

Sounds like your day was as bad as mine!! :D

SeeSeeRider777
01-31-2008, 07:24 PM
Elvis looks like he is 20 years old is this photo real?

Tony Trout
01-31-2008, 07:56 PM
Elvis looks like he is 20 years old is this photo real?


For the umpteeth million time...the photo is real. He looks that young because (apparently) the family wanted him to look like he did in the 1950s...at least, this is what I was told by someone who spoke with one of the four embalmers who worked on Elvis.

cameron
01-31-2008, 08:06 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/stevens.jpg

Unchained Melody
01-31-2008, 08:17 PM
For the umpteeth million time...the photo is real. He looks that young because (apparently) the family wanted him to look like he did in the 1950s...at least, this is what I was told by someone who spoke with one of the four embalmers who worked on Elvis.

When I was new to the Elvis world..I doubted the photo is real but now it's obvious to me its real.

Thank you for posting that article Cameron..I read that somewhere awhile back...

SeeSeeRider777
01-31-2008, 08:18 PM
For the umpteeth million time...the photo is real. He looks that young because (apparently) the family wanted him to look like he did in the 1950s...at least, this is what I was told by someone who spoke with one of the four embalmers who worked on Elvis.

Ok, I was just asking because I didnt know.

cameron
01-31-2008, 08:20 PM
CHAPTER THREE: "MISTER PRESLEY'S ORDERS"

EXCERPTED WITH EXPRESS-WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM KATCO MEDIA; COPYRIGHT 1998,2004 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

A city policeman standing at the gate spotted my car as I headed toward the gate. He blew his whistle and waved for me to straighten out and move on. I lowered the automatic car window and politely signaled for the officer to approach so that I might explain the reason for my presence. But he shook his head in rejection of my request for a hearing and again waved me on.

“Hey, Bob Kendall,” shouted a voice from somewhere in the shadows behind the closed mansion gates. “It’s me, thingy Grob.”

I stopped the car and waited until the one gate swung partially open and thingy came out with another policeman and said something to the police officer who had been waving me away. This time, when the officer blew his whistle, he accompanied it with a hand signal for me to approach the gate while at the same time motioning for the crowd to let my car through.

When the iron gates swung open, I pulled through onto the bottom of the blacktop road that snaked up the grass knoll to the entrance of the white stone and wooden mansion. thingy, and another Graceland employee came to the car and greeted me with a handshake before they both climbed onto the back seat. I drove to the residence at the crown of the knoll and parked off to the side of the main door.

As the three of us left the car and approached the main entrance to the mansion, a uniformed city policeman guarding the threshold drew open the wide door and invited us to cross into the foyer of the residence named by a former physician owner as “Graceland.”

***

The old man [Ed, Note, Vernon Presley] reached into one of his trouser pockets and extracted a piece of lined notebook paper on which he had written in his own hand the names headed by George Klein, Joe Esposito, Charlie Hodge, Billy Smith, Lamar Fike, and Dr. George Nicopolis. “Here’s the list,” he said, as he passed the paper to Joe, who passed it to me without even looking at it.

Vernon turned the conversation to the clothing in which Elvis would be buried by pointing to a white linen, two-button suit with fashionably narrow lapels folded neatly on the bed in front of him. I could see from the expressions on Joe and George Klein’s faces that they were as surprised as I was at the suit. I guess we all somehow expected, perhaps I even hoped that Elvis would make his final appearance on this earth in one of the many jump-suits that had become a hallmark of his fabulous career.

“I bought that suit for Elvis at Neubies not long ago when we were in California,” Mister Presley explained, his eyes moistened with tears after having mentioned his son by name for the first time in the meeting. “It didn’t get here until about two weeks ago. You know, he never even got to wear it.” With those words another of my fading hopes for a glitzy showbiz funeral for Elvis was dashed.

To relieve the emotional tension of the moment, Al Stroter, Elvis wardrobe manager, chimed in to suggest that I go to the Julius Lewis men’s furnishings store on Union Avenue the next day to purchase a powder blue shirt and white tie that would color-coordinate with the suit. He needlessly suggested that I spare no expense in the purchases and gave me Elvis’ shirt measurements as a sixteen-and-a-half inch neck and thirty-five inch sleeves. I wrote the measurements in my notebook. Having by then regained his complete composure, Vernon came back into the conversation to announce that C. W. Bradley, minister of the Wooddale Church of Christ, would conduct the funeral service and preside at the interment rites.

“Will the burial be next to Mrs. Presley in the Forest Hills Cemetery?” I asked.

“No,” Vernon snapped. “There’s been so much damage done to Gladys’ tombstone already that I don’t want her buried there any more. I want Elvis to be buried in the mausoleum, and later we’ll move my wife next to him, but we could never bury them in the plot. People would tear it apart for souvenirs.”

click to order: The King Is Dead

EIN expresses its sincere thanks to Katco Media for granting us permission to publish the above excerpts from The King Is Dead

TotallyInsane
01-31-2008, 08:35 PM
Looks like a different nose to me.

cameron
01-31-2008, 08:36 PM
When I was new to the Elvis world..I doubted the photo is real but now it's obvious to me its real.

Thank you for posting that article Cameron..I read that somewhere awhile back...

Well, I've been around for a long time. There's a lot I've seen I don't like.
But, I look at it anyway and decide things for myself....as we all should be allowed to, IMO.

Tony Trout
01-31-2008, 08:37 PM
HERE YA GO GIRLS. ;) IF anyone is offended though, I'm taking it off !!



http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/ep2nose.png




This is just a thought, but....could it be that his nose looks different because he (apparently) had laid on his face for a long time before Ginger found him??














(I'm not offended at the pic, Cameron. It's a very interesting comparison, actually....and, unfortunately, does raise more questions).

cameron
01-31-2008, 08:41 PM
This is just a thought, but....could it be that his nose looks different because he (apparently) had laid on his face for a long time before Ginger found him??
(I'm not offended at the pic, Cameron. It's a very interesting comparison, actually....and, unfortunately, does raise more questions).


I don't know, did Ginger say that?

utmom2008
01-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Looks like a different nose to me.
Yeh....to me as well. I don't see how anyone can say that looks to be the same nose...:hmm:

cameron
01-31-2008, 08:57 PM
There have been too many people telling too many different stories about this whole thing. Maybe ,we should try and find the truth so everyone knows what it is and this whole thing can stop. It's a little rediculous after 30 years to try and stop people from asking questions.

IF anyone wants the picture get it. It offends me and I'm going to delete it and go to bed.

I see; Tony has got it. It's not a picture I like. :'(

Unchained Melody
01-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Theres obviously a difference in it.

And people have said he was found with his face kind of buried down in the carpet..but I don't think that would have changed the shape of his nose like that....:hmm::hmm:

utmom2008
01-31-2008, 10:02 PM
Sounds like your day was as bad as mine!! :D
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

utmom2008
01-31-2008, 10:08 PM
(I'm not offended at the pic, Cameron. It's a very interesting comparison, actually....and, unfortunately, does raise more questions).

It does raise questions, especially with the above article saying that a drawing was done. The nose looks different! There is just the one poster on here who actually saw Elvis in the casket, and she commented on his nose before the pic came out in The National Enquirer.:hmm::hmm:

Tony Trout
02-01-2008, 06:58 AM
I don't know, did Ginger say that?

Ginger didn't say it but it's been speculated for years that Elvis laid on the floor for hours with his face supposedly partly against the wall (I think I read this in "The Death Of Elvis") before he was found.



There have been too many people telling too many different stories about this whole thing. Maybe ,we should try and find the truth so everyone knows what it is and this whole thing can stop. It's a little rediculous after 30 years to try and stop people from asking questions.

IF anyone wants the picture get it. It offends me and I'm going to delete it and go to bed.

I see; Tony has got it. It's not a picture I like. :'(


Yes, I did save the photo. I don't like it either...but in this case, the photo only serves to raise more questions than it answers...




Theres obviously a difference in it.

And people have said he was found with his face kind of buried down in the carpet..but I don't think that would have changed the shape of his nose like that....:hmm::hmm:

If he had laid there for a while (as rumored by some of the guys in the MM and other people) with his face apparently against the wall, then I believe it's entirely possible for the shape of the nose to change....

And the "drawing" that everyone is referring to can be found inside the Sept. 6, 1977 issue of the NE because I compared that picture with the one that appeared on the front of the NE's 25th anniversary issue and both photos are identical. When comparing the drawing with the actual casket photo, you can very easily tell that the photo is a drawing....and a pretty **** good drawing at that, IMO.

presley31
02-01-2008, 07:39 AM
Ginger didn't say it but it's been speculated for years that Elvis laid on the floor for hours with his face supposedly partly against the wall (I think I read this in "The Death Of Elvis") before he was found.





Yes, I did save the photo. I don't like it either...but in this case, the photo only serves to raise more questions than it answers...





If he had laid there for a while (as rumored by some of the guys in the MM and other people) with his face apparently against the wall, then I believe it's entirely possible for the shape of the nose to change....

And the "drawing" that everyone is referring to can be found inside the Sept. 6, 1977 issue of the NE because I compared that picture with the one that appeared on the front of the NE's 25th anniversary issue and both photos are identical. When comparing the drawing with the actual casket photo, you can very easily tell that the photo is a drawing....and a pretty **** good drawing at that, IMO.

l agree Tony, it looks like a drawing to me and the nose doesn't look right either.

cameron
02-01-2008, 11:40 AM
Ginger didn't say it but it's been speculated for years that Elvis laid on the floor for hours with his face supposedly partly against the wall (I think I read this in "The Death Of Elvis") before he was found.

If he had laid there for a while (as rumored by some of the guys in the MM and other people) with his face apparently against the wall, then I believe it's entirely possible for the shape of the nose to change....


IMO, It's not possible for any of the features to change so drastically.
Instead of believing anyone on a MB , I'd suggest asking a pathologist or a mortician.
Speculations and rumors have went on long enough for me.
I'll just work on this away from a public place .
I'm pretty much done with this here .

utmom2008
02-01-2008, 04:40 PM
IMO, It's not possible for any of the features to change so drastically.

This is correct...people are killed in horrendous car crashes and their features are not altered. I asked a friend of ours who owns and runs the local funeral home.....he was very clear that laying on his face for quite awhile would have ZERO bearing on the appearance of his nose.......

TotallyInsane
02-01-2008, 04:48 PM
This is correct...people are killed in horrendous car crashes and their features are not altered. I asked a friend of ours who owns and runs the local funeral home.....he was very clear that laying on his face for quite awhile would have ZERO bearing on the appearance of his nose.......

Good job Rosanne!!! Did you tell the guy you were wondering about Elvis' nose...bet not!!! :D:D

cameron
02-01-2008, 05:25 PM
This is correct...people are killed in horrendous car crashes and their features are not altered. I asked a friend of ours who owns and runs the local funeral home.....he was very clear that laying on his face for quite awhile would have ZERO bearing on the appearance of his nose.......

Good for you, Roseane . It's the only way to get things clear in your mind for yourself. I encourage everyone to look and ask a professional when thery have questions.

I found a book where the author refers to this picture too.
http://www.wnyc.org/books/6417
"Stevens's best work tended to get the Enquirer sued. When the TV star Freddie Prinze shot himself to death, Stevens joined two photographs into a seamless image of Prinze and Raquel Welch at a party together. The implication was that they had been lovers, and this sparked a lawsuit. He enhanced a photograph of a woman with a long neck: "Giraffe Woman." Giraffe Woman sued. His most famous retouching job was on a photograph of Elvis lying dead in his coffin, which ran on the cover of the Enquirer. Elvis's bloated face looked a lot better in Stevens's version than it did in the handiwork of the mortician. "

TotallyInsane
02-01-2008, 05:31 PM
OK I have another really dumb question. Isn't bloating caused by swelling, fluid retention?? When you die wouldn't you lose all of the fluid retention in your body?

utmom2008
02-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Good job Rosanne!!! Did you tell the guy you were wondering about Elvis' nose...bet not!!! :D:D
You know me too well!! :lol::lol: (y)

utmom2008
02-01-2008, 08:07 PM
OK I have another really dumb question. Isn't bloating caused by swelling, fluid retention?? When you die wouldn't you lose all of the fluid retention in your body?
Yes, you do. All of the bodily fluids are drained. There is a book(maybe Down at the End of Lonely Street) that says Elvis looked great in the casket because all of the swelling and bloating are gone.....:hmm:

utmom2008
02-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Good for you, Roseane . It's the only way to get things clear in your mind for yourself. I encourage everyone to look and ask a professional when thery have questions.

I found a book where the author refers to this picture too.
http://www.wnyc.org/books/6417
"Stevens's best work tended to get the Enquirer sued. When the TV star Freddie Prinze shot himself to death, Stevens joined two photographs into a seamless image of Prinze and Raquel Welch at a party together. The implication was that they had been lovers, and this sparked a lawsuit. He enhanced a photograph of a woman with a long neck: "Giraffe Woman." Giraffe Woman sued. His most famous retouching job was on a photograph of Elvis lying dead in his coffin, which ran on the cover of the Enquirer. Elvis's bloated face looked a lot better in Stevens's version than it did in the handiwork of the mortician. "
Thanks for the post. That book sounds fascinating......:hmm:

TotallyInsane
02-02-2008, 03:37 AM
Yes, you do. All of the bodily fluids are drained. There is a book(maybe Down at the End of Lonely Street) that says Elvis looked great in the casket because all of the swelling and bloating are gone.....:hmm:

That's what I thought so I didn't understand the comments about him being bloated.

Miss Clawdy
02-02-2008, 05:43 AM
OK I have another really dumb question. Isn't bloating caused by swelling, fluid retention?? When you die wouldn't you lose all of the fluid retention in your body?

Yes I saw this when my grandmother died, and I must say this happened
so fast, all the bloating was gone within around an hour.
I too have a dumb question. Some say the picture was doctored, some
say the whole picture is a drawing. I thougt there was only one real picture
taken which was touched up by the NE people because someone spilled
coffee on it, so....what is correct?
Besides, if you compare the faces in the picture Cameron posted, I think
everything is different, not only his nose....

utmom2008
02-02-2008, 11:05 AM
I thougt there was only one real picture
taken which was touched up by the NE people because someone spilled
coffee on it, so....what is correct?
Besides, if you compare the faces in the picture Cameron posted, I think
everything is different, not only his nose....

I never have heard the coffee story...:hmm:
I agree on your comparison picture. I know that it's Elvis in the casket, but it doesn't look like my Elvis.....:blush::blink::supriced::supriced:

Miss Clawdy
02-02-2008, 12:39 PM
I never have heard the coffee story...:hmm:
I agree on your comparison picture. I know that it's Elvis in the casket, but it doesn't look like my Elvis.....:blush::blink::supriced::supriced:

I read this in another old thread and just checked it. Sorry it was not coffee,
it was 'something' ;)....it's on page 2, post 37.

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=13811&highlight=casket+picture&page=2

ForeverTheKing
02-02-2008, 01:00 PM
Here there are videos about that sad day :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUUGFz9Zw4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRmy4XwG7LY

TotallyInsane
02-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Since we're on the subject of the coffin - thought I'd bump this back up for those who haven't read it yet.

cameron
02-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Since we're on the subject of the coffin - thought I'd bump this back up for those who haven't read it yet.

You're too kind ,Gail .;)
I'm gonna let people decide what they want to see.
I just don't want to offend anyone.
But, it's my bedtine....c ya .:P

utmom2008
02-24-2008, 09:56 PM
Since we're on the subject of the coffin - thought I'd bump this back up for those who haven't read it yet.
Oh good.....so we can go Round 2!!!! ;););)

TotallyInsane
02-25-2008, 06:06 AM
No, not to go round 2 but to clear up some stuff about the funeral. Like, the fans did not go walking through the music room to get to the back door. Where in the world did that come from?

cameron
02-25-2008, 06:13 AM
No, not to go round 2 but to clear up some stuff about the funeral. Like, the fans did not go walking through the music room to get to the back door. Where in the world did that come from?

I noticed a few things in that other post/thread that I'd never heard of.
It would be great to get some misinformation cleared up from someone that was there .
You are "totally insane" ;) but, I hope you can do it. (y)

jean francois
02-25-2008, 07:05 AM
A review photos of graceland 1977 it makes me sad myself in any case I would rather see the king alive but please share is the time which is without word

utmom2008
02-25-2008, 10:30 AM
I am STILL lost!:blink::blink:

alstrada
02-25-2008, 11:37 AM
The Funeral

http://dessaintes.webbuilder02.hostbasket.com/page135630.htm

alstrada
03-16-2008, 10:25 AM
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From Nancy/Insiders

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 02:15 AM
I'm just curious here, so no yelling....... ;):)

I know we're talking about our Elvis, but if this was your mother or father, husband or whoever means the world to you, do/or would you like to go back and look at pictures of their funeral, them in their caskets, the viewing, etc. or just remember them how they were when they were alive. I don't understand the fascination or curiousity over the funeral or pictures from those fateful days that seem like yesterday...... Why go back to one of the saddest times in history? To me, it seems like it was just a couple years ago that they were saying that Elvis Presley was dead........ but it's been almost 31 years........ but to even go back and look at the pictures or be reminded of that awful, sad, tragic day........ (n)

TotallyInsane
03-21-2008, 02:46 AM
There are some people who did not get to go that are interested in seeing pix of the funeral. I'm not sure why someone like yourself who doesn't want to revisit those times would click on a thread that they have no interest in. It's not like the thread said "Elvis Riding His Horse" and then you found out it was about the funeral. If there's a thread you don't like - why click it and then complain about it?

Getlo
03-21-2008, 06:02 AM
I know we're talking about our Elvis, but if this was your mother or father, husband or whoever means the world to you, do/or would you like to go back and look at pictures of their funeral, them in their caskets, the viewing, etc. or just remember them how they were when they were alive.

What have anyone's dead relatives got to do with Elvis? Elvis was not a member of anyone's family on here, nor was he anyone's friend.


I don't understand the fascination or curiousity over the funeral or pictures from those fateful days that seem like yesterday...... Why go back to one of the saddest times in history?

The last part of your sentence is an exaggeration, surely?

Elvis' death and funeral is as much a part of his tale as any other aspect of his life.

If it's not to your taste, ignore the thread ...

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 10:06 AM
There are some people who did not get to go that are interested in seeing pix of the funeral. I'm not sure why someone like yourself who doesn't want to revisit those times would click on a thread that they have no interest in. It's not like the thread said "Elvis Riding His Horse" and then you found out it was about the funeral. If there's a thread you don't like - why click it and then complain about it?

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:05 PM
okay - seriously people ~ you can get the attack dogs off .............. if you will read in my first sentence - I said I was CURIOUS........ AND IF IT WAS YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER do you or would you want to go back and look at those pictures? If you all would or could interpret the original question - I was asking in general - comprehension problems?

Why go back to one of the saddest times in history? - So are you saying the day Elvis Presley dying was one of the happiest times in history???? The funeral were happy times???? :angry:

Any other "smart" remarks I can help with? :)

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 05:13 PM
Any other "smart" remarks I can help with? :)

:lol:No, but maybe I can give you some smart advice.......*Duck & run* for cover.;):lol:

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:16 PM
:lol:No, but maybe I can give you some smart advice.......*Duck & run* for cover.;):lol:

Uh ~ how about NO, I'm staying put - and we'll play chicken! Sounds fun! I'm ready! :lol:

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Uh ~ how about NO, I'm staying put - and we'll play chicken! Sounds fun! I'm ready! :lol:

Ready? Set? GO!!!:lol::P:lol:

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Ready? Set? GO!!!:lol::P:lol:

Sounds good! we'll meet in Arkansas - halfway - got my SUV ready..... ;):lol:

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:23 PM
This is really sad when you just post a CURIOUS question and you get attacked............ and here I thought this board was pretty cool.........

Thanks alot for nothing!

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 05:28 PM
This is really sad when you just post a CURIOUS question and you get attacked............ and here I thought this board was pretty cool.........

Thanks alot for nothing!

If you have been a member here for 13 months and you just now got attacked...consider yourself lucky. You are way ahead of the pack....;)

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Any more questions I can help anyone with? I clicked on the subject in case there was something on here that I haven't read or heard of before.

Of course younger generations are curious and I can understand.

elvisfan4life
03-21-2008, 05:40 PM
If you have been a member here for 13 months and you just now got attacked...consider yourself lucky. You are way ahead of the pack....;)

It's that bad here? Now that's sad........ of course everyone is going to have their own opinions on Elvis, Priscilla, and Lisa and everything that has to do with Elvis.

No harsh feelings here :D

cameron
03-21-2008, 06:16 PM
okay - seriously people ~ you can get the attack dogs off .............. if you will read in my first sentence - I said I was CURIOUS........ AND IF IT WAS YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER do you or would you want to go back and look at those pictures? If you all would or could interpret the original question - I was asking in general - comprehension problems?

Why go back to one of the saddest times in history? - So are you saying the day Elvis Presley dying was one of the happiest times in history???? The funeral were happy times???? :angry:

Any other "smart" remarks I can help with? :)

Nope, I wouldn't want my mother or fathers casket pictures shown all over the Net either . I can discuss the death, but I'm not fond of seeing the pictures. It IS and WAS a very sad day, that's for sure. :'(

Some like to discuss things I don't, so I just jump over all that . Unless, they address me. Then that's a whole different story ! Yep, I can get mad too. ;)

Welcome and I hope you have a better time in the future.

TotallyInsane
03-21-2008, 06:58 PM
I don't care for being insulted for posting pictures that some were interested in. If you're not interested or don't like reading about the funeral then why click on it. If you were only looking for something you haven't read like you said then that sounds to me like you are interested...so which is it? And, by the way, this was not an attack - just my little response to a little insult. And any other insults you make to people you'll probably get the same type of response.
My SUV is running too - in fact - it never cools down. Bet mine will beat yours!!

Tommy
03-21-2008, 07:26 PM
I don't care for being insulted for posting pictures that some were interested in. If you're not interested or don't like reading about the funeral then why click on it. If you were only looking for something you haven't read like you said then that sounds to me like you are interested...so which is it? And, by the way, this was not an attack - just my little response to a little insult. And any other insults you make to people you'll probably get the same type of response.
My SUV is running too - in fact - it never cools down. Bet mine will beat yours!!


That last remark was unnecessary.

Tommy
03-21-2008, 07:39 PM
What have anyone's dead relatives got to do with Elvis? Elvis was not a member of anyone's family on here, nor was he anyone's friend.


How do you know this?

Getlo
03-21-2008, 07:42 PM
AND IF IT WAS YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER do you or would you want to go back and look at those pictures? If you all would or could interpret the original question - I was asking in general - comprehension problems?

If it was my mother or father who was one of the most famous singers in history, I would assume there would be websites like this devoted to them, and I would - presumably like Lisa Marie - avoid the pictures and discussion, yes. But since my parents, as far as I know, did not set the recording charts alight with their warbling, your point here is moot, and the only comprehension problems appear to be yours. Some people have photos of their loved ones funeral and take comfort in looking at them. I even have one friend who has photos of her stillborn child. Personally, I wouldn't do that sort of thing. But, again, since Elvis wasn't one of my family nor one of my friends, allow me the freedom to view, discuss and opine on his death at funeral at my leisure ... just as I allow you the freedom not to.


So are you saying the day Elvis Presley dying was one of the happiest times in history???? The funeral were happy times???? :angry:

What I'm saying is that to call Elvis' funeral one of the saddest days in history is an exaggeration. I am not suggesting it was a happy day at all.


Any other "smart" remarks I can help with? :)

As soon as you come up with a smart remark, I'll be the first to point it out! :lmfao:

Getlo
03-21-2008, 07:47 PM
How do you know this?

There is one on here who is/was apparently related to the Smiths.

If someone on here was a relative or actual friend of Elvis, they're keeping it rather quiet, don't you think? ;)

Tommy
03-21-2008, 07:48 PM
There is one on here who is/was apparently related to the Smiths.

If someone on here was a relative or actual friend of Elvis, they're keeping it rather quiet, don't you think? ;)


You still don't know though do you.

Tommy
03-21-2008, 07:50 PM
Getlo;As soon as you come up with a smart remark, I'll be the first to point it out! :lmfao:

Let's cool the jets! This is not necessary.

Getlo
03-21-2008, 08:00 PM
You still don't know though do you.

Based on the evidence, I would say I do.

If anyone is related to Elvis, or was his friend, do speak up now or forever hold your peace!

As for "Let's cool the jets! This is not necessary.", please note the :lmfao: at the end of my original post ...

cameron
03-21-2008, 08:06 PM
Based on the evidence, I would say I do.

If anyone is related to Elvis, or was his friend, do speak up now or forever hold your piece!

As for "Let's cool the jets! This is not necessary.", please note the :lmfao: at the end of my original post ...

What would you say if I told you I'm a relative of Elvis' ?

Tommy
03-21-2008, 08:09 PM
Based on the evidence, I would say I do.

If anyone is related to Elvis, or was his friend, do speak up now or forever hold your piece!

As for "Let's cool the jets! This is not necessary.", please note the :lmfao: at the end of my original post ...


What evidence offer it up please.

Getlo
03-21-2008, 08:21 PM
What would you say if I told you I'm a relative of Elvis' ?

I'd tell you to change your dosage, then throw my head back and laugh my a** off! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


What evidence offer it up please.

As I said, based on the evidence to hand, no one here is a relative or friend of Elvis. I can say that only because, if they are, they haven't spoken up about it. You'd think they would have by now.

It's entirely possible a relative or friend is on here of course, and I'm not - repeat NOT - saying it's definite that there isn't!

So, if there is someone on here who was closer to the man than any of us ... start a new thread perhaps.

Hey, Lisa, if you're reading this, you go get those nasty tabloids, hon! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

cameron
03-21-2008, 08:31 PM
I'd tell you to change your dosage, then throw my head back and laugh my a** off! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Well, start laughing, have a ball.
I'd say most everyone on here is closer than you to Elvis.
Most don't have to pretend they're somebody....they just are .;)

Getlo
03-21-2008, 08:37 PM
I'd say most everyone on here is closer than you to Elvis.

See, every time it starts to get relatively friendly between us, you come up with nasty crap like this and ruin it once again. Back to square one, and thanks for ruining what was a fun thread ... again. (n)

As for my closeness to Elvis ... hon, I've been a fan longer than you, and have forgotten more about him than you'll ever even know.

And as for most not having to pretend they're somebody ... why are you? ;)

cameron
03-21-2008, 08:47 PM
See, every time it starts to get relatively friendly between us, you come up with nasty crap like this and ruin it once again. Back to square one, and thanks for ruining what was a fun thread ... again. (n)

As for my closeness to Elvis ... hon, I've been a fan longer than you, and have forgotten more about him than you'll ever even know.

And as for most not having to pretend they're somebody ... why are you? ;)

How is it fun to go around hurting people? I'm not only a fan, I AM a relative, but I see no need to tell you as you know it all.
The same deity you deny gives me and everyone the right to be who they are. I just never saw a need to be more than I am.

I've got better things to do on a Friday night too. Have fun.:P

Getlo
03-21-2008, 08:52 PM
I'm not only a fan, I AM a relative

No, you're not. You would've mentioned it by now, or even slightly hinted at it.

I don't believe you, and I don't believe you would try this on for size.

You said yourself you only became a fan after seeing him in concert in '76 or so, or whenever it was.

I'd ask you to tell us all how you're actually related, but you won't. (And if you do, may I suggest a new thread, as we are all :offtopic: here ...)

* Actually, I've started a thread about relatives and friends. What Tommy said got me thinking. If you're out there people, tell us your stories!

http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=19657

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Hi! My name is Ginger Alden...it's so good to meet all of you!;)

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 10:24 PM
That last remark was unnecessary.

In all fairness Tommy...I think this remark was made in jest because of post #139. That's where the SUV "joke" got started....:blush:

utmom2008
03-21-2008, 10:27 PM
How is it fun to go around hurting people? I'm not only a fan, I AM a relative, but I see no need to tell you as you know it all.

Cameron....you have told us all time and time again that you only saw Elvis once, in 1977, and that's when you became interested in the man. Does this mean you are also related to Oprah??? Or...ARE you Oprah???:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

cameron
03-22-2008, 08:06 AM
Cameron....you have told us all time and time again that you only saw Elvis once, in 1977, and that's when you became interested in the man. Does this mean you are also related to Oprah??? Or...ARE you Oprah???:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

That's correct. I never knew I was related until about 10 years ago.
Does that make us any less of a relative?? :hmm:

Tony Trout
03-22-2008, 08:46 AM
That's correct. I never knew I was related until about 10 years ago.
Does that make us any less of a relative?? :hmm:


Exactly how might you be related? Just curious....

cameron
03-22-2008, 08:58 AM
From the Smith side. That's all I intend to say.
It is ,after all, nothing special that Elvis or I are responsible for. ;)

Miss P.Ann
05-21-2008, 12:16 PM
I was adopted at birth...maybe I'm related too!!!:lol: