A what point??

[MissyM]

Do you think Pricilla fell in love with Elvis? I always wondered about this. When she first met him she was like thousands of other teens. She didn't know him so she was an infatuated fan IMO. How many were not in love with his good looks and charm. Then what? She fell in real love while they were talking a few times and writing letter? I mean how well did she really know him. Then she visits him for a while. He takes her out and buys her stuff and shows her a great time. Sounds like lots of fun. But was it enough to really know the man and love him???? Maybe it was when she moved to Graceland. Wow, big decision based on what- a mere infatuation??? And yet she finds out he is having an affair and still marries him. How do you fall in love with someone who she says is over-bearing and sleeping with other women? (I mean enough to marry them)
I don't get it, honestly I don't. It's almost is as if once she got to know the real Elvis she fell out of love with him. So to me maybe she never really did fall in love with him. Not the real Elvis anyway. Just the image. Kind of like we all did at one time or another.

[riley]

true and a good question indeed.
When was THE moment she really fell for him, THE moment she decided she was going to be with him for the rest of her life...

And when was the moment for Elvis

[MissyM]

You read my mind Riley!

[riley]

I guess Missy noone will really know the answer. When was their real magic between them and did that magic meant that they knew they really were "in love" with each other.

Infatuation is one thing, love another....

[utmom2008]

Do you think Pricilla fell in love with Elvis?
It's almost is as if once she got to know the real Elvis she fell out of love with him. So to me maybe she never really did fall in love with him. Not the real Elvis anyway. Just the image. Kind of like we all did at one time or another.

I think you are on to something Missy.:hmm: I think that for a very long time she confused infatuation and love for the same thing. I mean, let's face it....do many 14 or 15 year olds really know what love is? I remember well thinking that I was in love at 15.....wrong!!! I feel like the infatuation and the excitement and the life-style made her think she was in love, and really she wasn't. Also makes me wonder.....has she ever really loved any of the men she has been involved with??? :huh::huh:

[presley31]

I think priscilla loved elvis just like we all love our first loves. Elvis and priscila both grew up and didn't really like how they both turned out so there marriage fell apart and l think priscilla did love the man who she had a child, but however l think there will always be a void in priscilla life that she is missing since childhood.

[cameron]

I probably read way too much...:blush:
I never thought much about whether they loved each other or not.
Just took for granted that they thought they did.

Read Priscilla's book when it first came out. Can't say I liked it, but when the movie came out of the same name....I was sure I didn't like it !!

{I have always wanted proof of what is said ,in print,movie, etc. .
I still do to a certain extent; but have learned to get it myself .There are many myths, lies, that goes in a celebrities world}

Anyway....I read Elvis and Gladys ;that answered a lot of my questions.
Then decided to read Child Bride. I realize it's supposed to mostly be about Priscilla , but IMO it also showed a lot of Elvis too.
To make a long story short....I felt it told more than I needed or wanted to know . In the end, I believe they "fell in love" with what each of them wanted and believed the other to be. The image, not the person.
I felt sorry for both of them because neither really knew the other, IMO.

[Dovey]

From all the books I have read, I agree with you 100% Cameron.. In some of the books they say Elvis loved her like a little sister was was never truly "in love" with her. Dovey ;)

[MissyM]

It seems they were both very unrealistic. And it doesn't even seem like they had much of a foundation. It took me a while till I knew I loved my husband but at least we had some good things going. I like that he was a hard worker, had a great sense of humor, we had similar backgrounds (both were poor growing up, stong moral values taught, wanted maybe two or three kids, loved, loved music, and were not materialistic and more. So when the going go ruff, we had those things still bonding us. What the heck did they even have in common???

[presley31]

It seems they were both very unrealistic. And it doesn't even seem like they had much of a foundation. It took me a while till I knew I loved my husband but at least we had some good things going. I like that he was a hard worker, had a great sense of humor, we had similar backgrounds (both were poor growing up, stong moral values taught, wanted maybe two or three kids, loved, loved music, and were not materialistic and more. So when the going go ruff, we had those things still bonding us. What the heck did they even have in common???

true Missy, but nobody knows what they were alike alone without anybody around them.

[Awickedreigndrop]

true Missy, but nobody knows what they were alike alone without anybody around them.

Right, but they were rarely alone. Which was probably really hard on their marriage

[utmom2008]

Right, but they were rarely alone. Which was probably really hard on their marriage

Right! (y) That had to be a HUGE problem in the marriage...:blush:

[MissyM]

See that's the part I don't get. Maybe I'm wrong but even when others are around, you can still interact. Then I read that after she graduated they stayed holed up in their bedroom for days. And they did have that area as a place to be alone. Maybe is was weirder than most relationships but it isn't like they had no alone time to get to know each other. And they did have a sexual relationship. Often those intimate times are the best times to talk and get to know the person's inner thoughts. As long as they were togeather you can't tell me they didn't have alone time and conversations revealing who they were. We are talking several years before they married. And then there is just watching the person interact with other that speaks volumes about who they are. Everything one does in there lives also are clues to who they are. You'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to put it all togeather. Maybe that is going back to what Cameron said, they were blind and refuse to put the puzzle of who they were togeather????

Oh and editing to say that what ever they were doing intimatly, I still consider a sexual relationship. "I did not have a sex with that women" doesn't work for me.

[Donut]

I think she said recently she was in love just like a 14 years old girl can be... dunno how to take that but to me she meant she was only infatuated with him. In her book she told that when she first went to US to visit Elvis she found a different Elvis and not like the one she met in Germany. I think she described him as cocky and arrogant... and he didn´t want her to sleep with him.
If you look at all their story the only effort by his part was taking her to live to Graceland while he was having fun and sleeping around, later he decided to marry her wich I don´t think is right because it should be a decision taken and discussed by the 2 involved in the relationship :blink:.
I don´t say they didn´t care for each other but to me it was a strange couple for sure whatever the way you want to look at it and seemed more to go with the flow than anything else.
My guess is any of them were in love with each other.

[riley]

See that's the part I don't get. Maybe I'm wrong but even when others are around, you can still interact. Then I read that after she graduated they stayed holed up in their bedroom for days. And they did have that area as a place to be alone. Maybe is was weirder than most relationships but it isn't like they had no alone time to get to know each other. And they did have a sexual relationship. Often those intimate times are the best times to talk and get to know the person's inner thoughts. As long as they were togeather you can't tell me they didn't have alone time and conversations revealing who they were. We are talking several years before they married. And then there is just watching the person interact with other that speaks volumes about who they are. Everything one does in there lives also are clues to who they are. You'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to put it all togeather. Maybe that is going back to what Cameron said, they were blind and refuse to put the puzzle of who they were togeather????

Oh and editing to say that what ever they were doing intimatly, I still consider a sexual relationship. "I did not have a sex with that women" doesn't work for me.







good statement Missy

[ksimms2]

I think at 14, they were alone in his room alot, and talked (and whatever else) and she saw the lonely, missing his mom, missing home Elvis. Yes I think she fell in love with that Elvis. Not the cocky, arrogant Elvis she found back at Graceland. I think during their alone time, perhaps she saw that lonely Elvis again......and then he practically raised her. So yes, I think she did love him - probably more so than he did her. I think ultimately, he felt trapped - he wanted a family - but not give up his lifestyle.

[Tony Trout]

If you look at all their story the only effort by his part was taking her to live to Graceland while he was having fun and sleeping around, later he decided to marry her wich I don´t think is right because it should be a decision taken and discussed by the 2 involved in the relationship :blink:.
I don´t say they didn´t care for each other but to me it was a strange couple for sure whatever the way you want to look at it and seemed more to go with the flow than anything else.
My guess is any of them were in love with each other.


Decided? I think "forced" is a better term to use....

[Diane]

I think that young Priscilla at 14 was more "flattered" that Elvis took a liking to her looks than anything else and then she and her family took advantage of the fact. I think Elvis did want her to visit Graceland but I don't believe he felt enough for her to want her to stay but she persisted. Even though, I think he felt more affection for her than she did him but was never truly in love with her.

Diane

[SleepyJack]

I think we all sometimes have dreams that are so beautiful that when we wake it makes the real world look a bit duller than it had seemed before,but then at some point you have to just get up and get on with living.Love is never easy to understand,or the loss of it for that matter.I`m sure that at times Elvis and Priscilla felt some kind of love for each other,I doubt that things would have gone on as long as they did if they hadn`t,and in fairness they were in a huge great wonderland anyway.I would think it is a lot easier to find the kind of close,dependable,feet-on-the-ground love that many marriages are built on when you are not a superstar. It`s very hard to judge other peoples relationships.

[presley31]

I think we all sometimes have dreams that are so beautiful that when we wake it makes the real world look a bit duller than it had seemed before,but then at some point you have to just get up and get on with living.Love is never easy to understand,or the loss of it for that matter.I`m sure that at times Elvis and Priscilla felt some kind of love for each other,I doubt that things would have gone on as long as they did if they hadn`t,and in fairness they were in a huge great wonderland anyway.I would think it is a lot easier to find the kind of close,dependable,feet-on-the-ground love that many marriages are built on when you are not a superstar. It`s very hard to judge other peoples relationships.

i agree jack(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

See that's the part I don't get. Maybe I'm wrong but even when others are around, you can still interact. Then I read that after she graduated they stayed holed up in their bedroom for days. And they did have that area as a place to be alone. Maybe is was weirder than most relationships but it isn't like they had no alone time to get to know each other. And they did have a sexual relationship. Often those intimate times are the best times to talk and get to know the person's inner thoughts. As long as they were togeather you can't tell me they didn't have alone time and conversations revealing who they were. We are talking several years before they married. And then there is just watching the person interact with other that speaks volumes about who they are. Everything one does in there lives also are clues to who they are. You'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to put it all togeather. Maybe that is going back to what Cameron said, they were blind and refuse to put the puzzle of who they were togeather????

These are great points Missy!(y)(y)


Oh and editing to say that what ever they were doing intimatly, I still consider a sexual relationship. "I did not have a sex with that women" doesn't work for me.

So.....you didn't believe Bill Clinton either??:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Donut]

Decided? I think "forced" is a better term to use....

Like you I think he felt trapped too. I used decided because that´s what she says. Something like " he told me he would know when the time was right"...
A strange way to be in love however the marriage took place.

[Tony Trout]

Like you I think he felt trapped too. I used decided because that´s what she says. Something like " he told me he would know when the time was right"...
A strange way to be in love however the marriage took place.


I agree. Although I do think there was some love there for Priscilla, I don't believe for one second that he would have married her had Parker not "put his foot down" to Elvis about it or when her father asked him when he was going to make good on his promise to marry her.....

[MissyM]

Oh and I don't think for a second that they waited till they were married to do the deed. Maybe till she was 18.(and untill they just did other things) And I don't care what Jo Esposito says. YOu don't live and sleep with a man for that many years and not have sex. No freaking way!

[Unique Dog]

I don`t know when she fell in love with him, but I do believe that a 14 year old can fall in love. I fell in love with my husband at age 14. He was 17. ;)

[franny]

I think Priscilla at 14 and Elvis 24, he was a little older, she was still a teenager, but that doesn't mean she didn't fall in love with him...Age doesn't always come into play with love, it's really how you feel about someone and depends on the two involved..

I don't know about Elvis being "forced" to marry Priscilla because if he didn't really "love" her he could have just left her in Germany and not had any contact with her after the army...Why did he have her come to Graceland and live with him? Maybe, things changed for them after, but I think they did love each other.

At What point did Priscilla fall in love? Well, it's Elvis, so probably when he introduced himself :P

franny

[utmom2008]

Oh and I don't think for a second that they waited till they were married to do the deed. Maybe till she was 18.(and untill they just did other things) And I don't care what Jo Esposito says. YOu don't live and sleep with a man for that many years and not have sex. No freaking way!
I agree with you Missy.....if they had that kind of will-power then they were really super-human. Not just Elvis, but Cilla as well. I can't imagine laying in the bed next to Elvis night after night and........oh well....you get the picture!!!

[Diane]

Don't forget how in the book she claimed she tried to get him to make love to her...shows that in the movie too. Now how many men do you think would be able to hold back under that kind of pressure?:)

Diane

[MissyM]

YOu got that straight Diane. And at that age, come on now!!!

[utmom2008]

At What point did Priscilla fall in love? Well, it's Elvis, so probably when he introduced himself

I LOVE your answer Franny!!!!!!!!!!

[utmom2008]

Don't forget how in the book she claimed she tried to get him to make love to her...shows that in the movie too. Now how many men do you think would be able to hold back under that kind of pressure?:)

Diane
Exactly! It's been awhile since I read that book, but doesn't she say that she begged him to sleep with her while they were still in Germany?? Puh-leeeez.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[presley31]

Maybe elvis didn't sleep with priscilla at first cause every book l seen says elvis liked vigins and wanted to keep them that way till marriage, well till linda and kathy. Anita didn't sleep with elvis either.

[utmom2008]

Maybe elvis didn't sleep with priscilla at first
Maybe they didn't sleep together right at first, but I don't buy that they didn't sleep together until May 1, 1968.;):supriced:;)

[presley31]

Don't know, there sex life doesn't really interest me if they did or not.

[utmom2008]

Don't know, there sex life doesn't really interest me if they did or not.
It must not interest Priscilla either, otherwise she wouldn't keep changing her story. ;) :lol:

[presley31]

It must not interest Priscilla either, otherwise she wouldn't keep changing her story. ;) :lol:

Dunno about that either, haven't been watching or hearing what she been saying half the time. I wouldn't talk about my sex life to anybody, thats just private.

[Getlo]

Maybe they didn't sleep together right at first, but I don't buy that they didn't sleep together until May 1, 1968.;):supriced:;)

Considering Lisa Marie was born in February 1968, I think it's a safe bet to assume they slept together before May 1, 1968 ... :)

But as for May 1, 1967 ... let me be blunt. Although I am not a great fan of Cilla, I do believe her when she says they never had actual sex until their wedding night and that she was a virgin when they were married.

And when I say sex here, I mean the big one: part A into part B, like they tried to teach us at school. I think Elvis saw her as the potential mother of his child, and didn't want to "sully" her and her body. Elvis was funny like that, IMO.

However, I'm sure they had done everything else by the time the wedding night rolled around, so the actual "event" was the culmination of years of getting close.

And - inasmuch as many fans might not wish to hear this - I also believe Elvis had sexual relations with Cilla when she was under age. No doubt about it, IMO. Not the big one, I mean the other stuff. And probably as early as when she was 14, in Germany.

And there's no point in trotting out the old line of "Well, people were married very young in the South" or "It was the times" and things of that nature.

Cilla wasn't a Southerner: had the real story been exposed back when it was happening, I think charges could have been laid against Elvis.

[utmom2008]

Considering Lisa Marie was born in February 1968, I think it's a safe bet to assume they slept together before May 1, 1968 ... :)

But as for May 1, 1967 ... let me be blunt. Although I am not a great fan of Cilla, I do believe her when she says they never had actual sex until their wedding night and that she was a virgin when they were married.

And when I say sex here, I mean the big one: part A into part B, like they tried to teach us at school. I think Elvis saw her as the potential mother of his child, and didn't want to "sully" her and her body. Elvis was funny like that, IMO.

However, I'm sure they had done everything else by the time the wedding night rolled around, so the actual "event" was the culmination of years of getting close.

And - inasmuch as many fans might not wish to hear this - I also believe Elvis had sexual relations with Cilla when she was under age. No doubt about it, IMO. Not the big one, I mean the other stuff. And probably as early as when she was 14, in Germany.

And there's no point in trotting out the old line of "Well, people were married very young in the South" or "It was the times" and things of that nature.

Cilla wasn't a Southerner: had the real story been exposed back when it was happening, I think charges could have been laid against Elvis.
:lol: My mistake....I meant 1967. :D:D :lol:

[utmom2008]

However, I'm sure they had done everything else by the time the wedding night rolled around, so the actual "event" was the culmination of years of getting close.

And - inasmuch as many fans might not wish to hear this - I also believe Elvis had sexual relations with Cilla when she was under age. No doubt about it, IMO. Not the big one, I mean the other stuff. And probably as early as when she was 14, in Germany.

I agree...I think that's a pretty safe bet.;);)

[cameron]

Dunno about that either, haven't been watching or hearing what she been saying half the time. I wouldn't talk about my sex life to anybody, thats just private.
I agree with you, Jen. A persons sex life is no body else' s business.

[Wendy56]

The first moment Elvis and Priscilla saw to each other... I guess. :wub:

[MissyM]

Maybe she saw dollar signs?? But then I don't believe in love at first sight to begin with.

[Diane]

I don't believe in love at first sight either. There can be a very strong physical attraction at first sight but how can you "love" someone you don't know yet?

Diane

[MissyM]

Absolutley Diane. I even believe in a strong spirtual connection that is hard to understand. But true, and lasting love..no.

[riley]

For some reason Elvis wanted to take care of her.... to protect her....

Don't know why exactly. Perhaps her loss of her father and his loss of his mother...

By the way, how happy did Priscilla feel at home... Lots of contradictions... And who knows what did she entrust upon him?????

[EDOEP]

......and then he practically raised her.

he practically raised her???

she was born in may 45. she moved into GL in spring 63 - only a few months before she turned 18.

i think at the age of 18 one is not really 'raised' any more ..... :blink:

hugs, ellie

[presley31]

Considering Lisa Marie was born in February 1968, I think it's a safe bet to assume they slept together before May 1, 1968 ... :)

But as for May 1, 1967 ... let me be blunt. Although I am not a great fan of Cilla, I do believe her when she says they never had actual sex until their wedding night and that she was a virgin when they were married.

And when I say sex here, I mean the big one: part A into part B, like they tried to teach us at school. I think Elvis saw her as the potential mother of his child, and didn't want to "sully" her and her body. Elvis was funny like that, IMO.

However, I'm sure they had done everything else by the time the wedding night rolled around, so the actual "event" was the culmination of years of getting close.

And - inasmuch as many fans might not wish to hear this - I also believe Elvis had sexual relations with Cilla when she was under age. No doubt about it, IMO. Not the big one, I mean the other stuff. And probably as early as when she was 14, in Germany.

And there's no point in trotting out the old line of "Well, people were married very young in the South" or "It was the times" and things of that nature.

Cilla wasn't a Southerner: had the real story been exposed back when it was happening, I think charges could have been laid against Elvis.

l agree with everything you said

[Diane]

No, Elvis did not "raise" Priscilla. Even by the age of 14 when he met her, her values were set by her parents.

Diane

[riley]

true her values were set indeed

[EDOEP]

It must not interest Priscilla either, otherwise she wouldn't keep changing her story. ;) :lol:

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

good one, rosanne!

[Getlo]

No, Elvis did not "raise" Priscilla.

Maybe not, but he certainly groomed her as his pet project, and gradually turned her into a woman.

Or, more accurately, the sort of woman he wanted her (and all women) to be ... willing, compliant, essentially subservient and in her place - right on top of the pedestal from which he could remove her at any time to show her off.

[Lainey]

Just a thought...

I either read or heard Priscilla talking about how Elvis loved the thrill of a chase. Getting Priscilla to Graceland seemed like a challenge that Elvis enjoyed. I would think that keeping up the pretenses to her parents kept them on their toes for awhile. It seems that old saying finally crept into their lives, "Be careful what you ask for, you just may get it!"

[presley31]

Maybe not, but he certainly groomed her as his pet project, and gradually turned her into a woman.

Or, more accurately, the sort of woman he wanted her (and all women) to be ... willing, compliant, essentially subservient and in her place - right on top of the pedestal from which he could remove her at any time to show her off.

l agree gelto(y)(y)

[Lainey]

Maybe not, but he certainly groomed her as his pet project, and gradually turned her into a woman.

True. But doesn't it sound weird when you think about it? Well, to me at least.:)

[Getlo]

True. But doesn't it sound weird when you think about it? Well, to me at least.:)

Yeah, well, it was Elvis.

He was quite weird about certain things you know ... ;)

[Lainey]

Yeah, well, it was Elvis.

He was quite weird about certain things you know ... ;)

Absolutely.