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Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors. The same could one day happen concerning EP items. Now this probably would not include tapes and recordings since EPE has no right to those. But items like stage and movie costumes, automobiles, personal owned items, and jewelry could be forced to be returned the the hands of the estate for future use.
Also keep in mind that things are about to change as far as money goes with EPE. Things they have never been able to do in the past they will now have the financial backing to do so. Such as take the media and tabloids to court over slander and damage to the name and legacy of EP. That would include stopping the nonsense that EP stole black music and was a racist. If someone wants to claim that publicly on record, then they better have proof to back it in the court of law. otherwise Bob Sillerman could put a company in bankruptcy very quickly just to prove his point. Keep in mind, he has a lot to lose if some fabricate story or rumor were to damage his investment. He is about to invest close to $300 million or more into the new Graceland expansion project. That's not chump change either. Lakeisha said they are calling it the largest private financial investment in the city's history!!
There's an old saying-money talks and I have a strong feeling in my gut that Bob Sillerman is about to make his money speak loud volumes.(y)
Jumpsuit Junkie
12-29-2007, 02:17 AM
National treasures taken from a country and hidden in private collectors galleries are very different to Items of significance e.g. clothing from a rock legend! I would be extremely surprised if Bob Sillerman would break a sweat over minor trinkets that are dotted around the globe... If I recall correctly EPE have sold personal Items belonging to Elvis on the market themselves.
By and large the important Clothing, jewelry and planes are already owned or on loan to EPE. The other sticking point would be that Elvis gave away many items e.g. jumpsuits, clothing & cars etc how would EPE/Sillerman ever lay claim to these items, the burden of proof would be on EPE to demonstrate that any such Items had been stolen, these claims are very difficult to substantiate and would be costly.
I would suggest that this process is a non starter in EPE's case.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to that. However those jumpsuits and personal items like the yellow Pentera are of great value. Oh and don't forget the unused long cape for the Aloha concert too. They all should be displayed at Graceland. And that was my reason for this thread. I do think EPE will approach private collectors in some way to buy back what they once sold off now that they have a powerful money maker in their corner. The fans are forgetting-there's never been a financial backing for EP or EPE (in his life or after) as there is now. So anything is possible. And nothing would surprise me now that they do have the financing in place to do those things.
Tony Trout
12-29-2007, 08:51 AM
Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors. The same could one day happen concerning EP items. Now this probably would not include tapes and recordings since EPE has no right to those. But items like stage and movie costumes, automobiles, personal owned items, and jewelry could be forced to be returned the the hands of the estate for future use.
Also keep in mind that things are about to change as far as money goes with EPE. Things they have never been able to do in the past they will now have the financial backing to do so. Such as take the media and tabloids to court over slander and damage to the name and legacy of EP. That would include stopping the nonsense that EP stole black music and was a racist. If someone wants to claim that publicly on record, then they better have proof to back it in the court of law. otherwise Bob Sillerman could put a company in bankruptcy very quickly just to prove his point. Keep in mind, he has a lot to lose if some fabricate story or rumor were to damage his investment. He is about to invest close to $300 million or more into the new Graceland expansion project. That's not chump change either. Lakeisha said they are calling it the largest private financial investment in the city's history!!
There's an old saying-money talks and I have a strong feeling in my gut that Bob Sillerman is about to make his money speak loud volumes.(y)
National treasures taken from a country and hidden in private collectors galleries are very different to Items of significance e.g. clothing from a rock legend! I would be extremely surprised if Bob Sillerman would break a sweat over minor trinkets that are dotted around the globe... If I recall correctly EPE have sold personal Items belonging to Elvis on the market themselves.
By and large the important Clothing, jewelry and planes are already owned or on loan to EPE. The other sticking point would be that Elvis gave away many items e.g. jumpsuits, clothing & cars etc how would EPE/Sillerman ever lay claim to these items, the burden of proof would be on EPE to demonstrate that any such Items had been stolen, these claims are very difficult to substantiate and would be costly.
I would suggest that this process is a non starter in EPE's case.
I agree with Matt here...I just don't see this happening...there's no way they're ever going to get back all the things that is or reported to be in private hands...if they ever do.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 09:30 AM
Leave it to Jay to find some connection to the Egyptian governement and Elvis just so he can mention his love for B.S.:notworthy
Far fetched is what I'd call it.
Leave it to Jay to find some connection to the Egyptian governement and Elvis just so he can mention his love for B.S.:notworthy
Far fetched is what I'd call it.
Leave it to Rocknroll (aka Kerry Mills from the 30 Number Ones forum) to spoil a good thread. When will the moderators learn?:(
presley31
12-29-2007, 10:13 AM
It would be nice to EPE go and get the stuff that does belong at graceland, but to be honest l can't see them being bothered.
Why do you all think Bob Sillerman bought out the Elvis A-Rama museum in las Vegas? So he can have all of that moved to Memphis as part of the new expansion for a new museum. If he would do that, then what makes you think he wouldn't want the tour bus, the yellow pentera, the lost limos, the unused cape, the lost jumpsuits, etc? I'm telling you guys, this will probably happen in some way or another. Maybe not by law or court, but by a private buyout as he did with the A-Rama museum.
presley31
12-29-2007, 10:23 AM
Why do you all think Bob Sillerman bought out the Elvis A-Rama museum in las Vegas? So he can have all of that moved to Memphis as part of the new expansion for a new museum. If he would do that, then what makes you think he wouldn't want the tour bus, the yellow pentera, the lost limos, the unused cape, the lost jumpsuits, etc? I'm telling you guys, this will probably happen in some way or another. Maybe not by law or court, but by a private buyout as he did with the A-Rama museum.
With all due respect l can't see this happening anytime soon. I think Bob has other plans in his head than buying things back from people that own elvis things.
EDOEP
12-29-2007, 10:24 AM
Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors.
honey,
besides lakeisha :lmfao:you're the best example that all that jolting from too much roller-coaster riding obviously has bad baaaad side effects on the cerebrum, and there especially on the neocortex.
otherwise even you would have realized that elvis-memorabilia BOUGHT from EPE or whoever owned them first - which should be the case with 99% of all memorabilia around - are something COMPLETELY different from artefacts literally STOLEN from egypt in the beginnings of archeology by self-proclaimed archeologists or even real historians and scientists, be it with or without the knowledge and approval of their governments that they 'confiscated' their findings for science.
archeology in the 19th and early 20th century was not highly developped in egypt back them, and most of all they were lacking the money for thoses enterprises.
it's hence all about the simple difference between 'bought' and 'confiscated' = stolen.
so i suggest instead of wasting even more of your time in amusement parks and more of your fellow-members patience you better take a history book and start reading ...... :doh: - before you start talking.
apart from that, there have been lawsuits before about memorabilia the ownership of which was unclear .... even without mr. sillerman being involved.
ellie
PS BTW, just wondering .... :hmm: ... i read that the mummies' brains were removed from the skull with metal hooks via their nose. at times i wonder if 'dr. frankenstein' is not only a literary character but alive and kicking and continuing his experiments with transplanting human brains ... :hmm:.
anybody have an idea about his whereabouts? heard recently about 'brainless' humans? :hmm:
EDOEP
12-29-2007, 10:28 AM
When will the moderators learn?:(
when they start closing threads basing on nothing but empty assumptions?
!!!
ellie
PS plus when they monitor more thoroughly IP-## logging in - in case they got the equipment = software which can be rather expensive.
KSOKMO
12-29-2007, 10:28 AM
EPE has four buildings that contain archival items.
Surely they're more concerned about museum space to display these items than they are about obtaining more Elvis items.
They do not currently purchase items but they do track what is sold, the prices things sell for and who they go to - for historical purposes.
This information comes from Angie Marchese, head of archives at EPE.
presley31
12-29-2007, 10:36 AM
I think the Egyptian items and elvis things are no way related. Egypt has been robbed, stolen and you have to consider the reason's why they making such a big deal about
Egyptian items, not only are they worth alot but very inportant by filling the missing pieces in Egypt history. Elvis was around and peole knew about his life and etc, egypt is a mystery.
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 11:50 AM
when they start closing threads basing on nothing but empty assumptions?
!!!
ellie
PS plus when they monitor more thoroughly IP-## logging in - in case they got the equipment = software which can be rather expensive.
Great couple of threads Ellie.(y)(y) As much as we all love Elvis, no, it's not the same thing as stolen artifacts that bear importance to a countries history. And no one could ever find all the Elvis artifacts floating around out there...to begin with-who would admit to having it??:supriced:
I have several EP capes, but please don't tell anyone, OK??
EDOEP
12-29-2007, 02:17 PM
Great couple of threads Ellie.(y)(y) As much as we all love Elvis, no, it's not the same thing as stolen artifacts that bear importance to a countries history. And no one could ever find all the Elvis artifacts floating around out there...to begin with-who would admit to having it??:supriced:
I have several EP capes, but please don't tell anyone, OK??
rosanna,
this thread is insofar highly hilarious as it is in the one case - like all others but the threadstarter seem to understand - about STOLEN artefacts that not only BELONG to a country, but are - as pointed out - an important factor in the people's history and national identity.
whatever is 'floating around' (nice term :D) of elvis former possession ..... first of all never ever could be tracked down by sillerman, unless elvis' sends him a detailed list from heaven above what he gave away as present during his lifetime and to whom! somehow i have the feeling that elvis' is not too inclined to do so ... he probably has better things to do, wherever he may be right now. demanding back stuff he gave away 100% would be against elvis' own understanding of the term 'present' and his famous generosity.
second: even if sillerman knew who received what when .... what again are the paragraphs in US legislation with the help of which mr. sillerman in his current position could possibly demand back presents elvis gave to friends, fans or strangers???
and what again are the paragraphs that allow a complete stranger (sillerman) who bought himself part of a company to 'demand back' items that people bought from friends, from EPE, from whoever possessed such a piece?
he could maybe make LMP to demand back stuff that was STOLEN during elvis' lifetime of after his death, no doubt. but was there any stuff stolen? not that i know.
i herewith demand from 'ep75' to quote these paragraphs that make it possible! i'm sure in their local library he / she will find the books she needs.
should he / she not be able to provide those --- i think this thread can be closed :).
ellie
PS sweetie, are you trying to impress me with those capes?!? forget it. i got some of his underwear ..... hey, i myself stole it from the clothesline at GL by the dozen:P. but since sillerman doesn't have my address ..... ;)
graceland girl
12-29-2007, 02:20 PM
all of elvis'things should be at graceland, where they belong:D
Okay. I'm Going To Say This One Time Only. I Am Not F**king She. I Am A Male From Alabama And Have Even Posted My Picture. Get That Crap Straight And Now. And You Better Believe The Next Person To Falsly Accuse Me Of That Will Be Reported For Flaming. Get It Into Your Thick Head Now!
all of elvis'things should be at graceland, where they belong:D
Yes they should be. That was why I started this thread and as usual the same ole trouble makers continue to get away with ruining threads and then I am the one who gets banned. Go freaking figure.(n)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 02:26 PM
i herewith demand from 'ep75' to quote these paragraphs that make it possible! i'm sure in their local library he / she will find the books she needs.
should he / she not be able to provide those --- i think this thread can be closed :).
ellie
PS sweetie, are you trying to impress me with those capes?!? forget it. i got some of his underwear ..... hey, i myself stole it from the clothesline at GL by the dozen:P. but since sillerman doesn't have my address ..... ;)
Great points Ellie! Anyone with time on their hands should be able to find such info.;)
Hey...I'll trade with ya! One cape for one pair of underwear. Are they boxers, or briefs???;);)
This is exactly why this forum is becoming less popular. Trolls and flamers.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 02:36 PM
Okay. I'm Going To Say This One Time Only. I Am Not F**king She. I Am A Male From Alabama And Have Even Posted My Picture. Get That Crap Straight And Now. And You Better Believe The Next Person To Falsly Accuse Me Of That Will Be Reported For Flaming. Get It Into Your Thick Head Now!
Exhibit A
Jay, when will you ever create a thread that does not blow up all over you?
Again, you post your opinion as fact and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Yes, when will the moderators learn and make your multiple bans permanent?
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 02:39 PM
I Am Not F**king She. Get That Crap Straight And Now. And You Better Believe The Next Person To Falsly Accuse Me Of That Will Be Reported For Flaming. Get It Into Your Thick Head Now!
I'm sorry..I guess I missed the post where someone referred to you as a "she". All I can remember was the phrase "he/she". Your name is androgynous, so I for one wasn't sure. ;););)
presley31
12-29-2007, 02:41 PM
I think we we should just post our thoughts and let the mods do there job if they feel they need to intervine.
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 02:43 PM
Exhibit A
Jay, when will you ever create a thread that does not blow up all over you?
Again, you post your opinion as fact and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Yes, when will the moderators learn and make your multiple bans permanent?
Good point rocknroll. (y)
presley31
12-29-2007, 02:46 PM
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Good point rocknroll. (y)
sorry but l disagree, there be no bans if people have respect towards eactogther and voice there thoughts and leave it at that.
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 02:49 PM
sorry but l disagree, there be no bans if people have respect towards eactogther and voice there thoughts and leave it at that.
Not quite sure how that post was supposed to read, but I think that's what JJ's thread was created for............;)
Thank you presley31. In fact I never said anything about facts as Kerry alluded to. I simply stated my thoughts of how I feel in my gut that Bob Sillerman and EPE will probably make an effort of some sort to regain lost belongings. And as usual the same gang of trouble makers post sarcastic remarks and are allowed to at that. I also find it funny how whenever I or Lakeisha post something that the same group of posters (and they know who theya re too) reply in attack mode for no reason when yet they say we are the trouble. We now see who the trouble makers are and it is not me. This thread proves it.
presley31
12-29-2007, 02:51 PM
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Not quite sure how that post was supposed to read, but I think that's what JJ's thread was created for............;)
Maybe the ones who have a problem with this person threads should take it to JJ threads and vent.
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Not quite sure how that post was supposed to read, but I think that's what JJ's thread was created for............;)
Who's JJ? Or is that suppose to be another sarcastic remark?:hmm:
presley31
12-29-2007, 02:54 PM
Who's JJ? Or is that suppose to be another sarcastic remark?:hmm:
its jumpsuit junkie's thread he stated for people to vent instead of reporting.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 02:54 PM
sorry but l disagree, there be no bans if people have respect towards eactogther and voice there thoughts and leave it at that.
Sure, but it goes both ways.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 02:55 PM
Who's JJ? Or is that suppose to be another sarcastic remark?:hmm:
Wow, chill. You are so full of hate and anger.
presley31
12-29-2007, 02:57 PM
Sure, but it goes both ways.
yep it does:)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Who's JJ? Or is that suppose to be another sarcastic remark?:hmm:
That would be Jumpsuit Junkie. Have you not seen the post he created for all of us to air our grievances??? Look it up...................;)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:03 PM
Wow, chill. You are so full of hate and anger.
That may be the understatement of the year............;)
presley31
12-29-2007, 03:04 PM
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That may be the understatement of the year............;)
see there no need for that remark, maybe we ALL should take this to JJ thread
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:04 PM
Maybe the ones who have a problem with this person threads should take it to JJ threads and vent.
:lol::lol: We have!!!! (y)(y)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:06 PM
see there no need for that remark, maybe we ALL should take this to JJ thread
Presley31....please go and read ALL of JJ's thread. One of the main complaints is about posters that take it upon themselves to be moderators.............;);)
presley31
12-29-2007, 03:11 PM
Presley31....please go and read ALL of JJ's thread. One of the main complaints is about posters that take it upon themselves to be moderators.............;);)
how do we take it up by ourselves?? give it a day and we will all get a warning like the last threads. if you don't like that person or the thread than leave it alone.
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:20 PM
how do we take it up by ourselves?? give it a day and we will all get a warning like the last threads. if you don't like that person or the thread than leave it alone.
:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:23 PM
National treasures taken from a country and hidden in private collectors galleries are very different to Items of significance e.g. clothing from a rock legend! I would be extremely surprised if Bob Sillerman would break a sweat over minor trinkets that are dotted around the globe... If I recall correctly EPE have sold personal Items belonging to Elvis on the market themselves.
By and large the important Clothing, jewelry and planes are already owned or on loan to EPE. The other sticking point would be that Elvis gave away many items e.g. jumpsuits, clothing & cars etc how would EPE/Sillerman ever lay claim to these items, the burden of proof would be on EPE to demonstrate that any such Items had been stolen, these claims are very difficult to substantiate and would be costly.
I would suggest that this process is a non starter in EPE's case.
Very well said JJ......great points!;) ;) (y)
MissyM
12-29-2007, 03:43 PM
Well all I know is that if I had something I bought or was given to me and EPE came after it, they'd have to pry it out of my cold dead hands! Possession is 9/10th of the law!
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:49 PM
I agree with you Missy!! (y) Oh goodness....I hope they don't come after my scarf. :nono: :nono:
thehillbillycat
12-29-2007, 03:51 PM
You are gettting yourself confused. Remember this:
For the Anicent Egypt artifacts they were:
1. tombs were robbed.
2. Artifacts stolen.
3. sold to either museums or private collectors over the course of time.
4. Because of the other three the Egypt government has the right to go after the artifacts.
For Elvis items:
1. Graceland wasn't robbed.
2. None was stolen or if it was during his lifetime, Elvis wouldn't take it back and let the person have the item.
3. EPE sold the items themselves.
4. Elvis or family gave away alot of the items during the lifetime.
There is a big difference. Bob Sillerman can't not take to the court to get the items back because of one thing. Items were sold as is and all sales are final. Any court no matter on the how much the money is involved can't take back the items. Read the find print on the receipt from an item purchased by a collector. I have a friend who owns a Elvis Jumpsuit. Clearly mark on the receipt is All Sales Are Final.
Anyway, if Bob Sillerman he would do the biggest mistake for EPE. Those items were sold to the fan or given to the fan by Elvis. Priscilla and Lisa knows that the fans wouldn't like that at all. Also, it would go against the agreement the Lisa signed with Bob Sillerman and that is: Graceland and any items that personally belong to Elvis are hers. He has no rights to them at all. All he owns is rights to his image, music, videos, and other entertainment. He has no rights on the property of Graceland and the personal items of Elvis.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 03:53 PM
how do we take it up by ourselves?? give it a day and we will all get a warning like the last threads. if you don't like that person or the thread than leave it alone.
Case in point.
You're always one to order all of us back on topic, what is taking so long this time? Too much fun stirring it up?:D
presley31
12-29-2007, 03:55 PM
Case in point.
You're always one to order all of us back on topic, what is taking so long this time? Too much fun stirring it up?:D
:lol::lol::lol: Thats what JJ thread all about, so we can vent , you should try it, might do you some good.
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:56 PM
You are gettting yourself confused. Remember this:
For the Anicent Egypt artifacts they were:
1. tombs were robbed.
2. Artifacts stolen.
3. sold to either museums or private collectors over the course of time.
4. Because of the other three the Egypt government has the right to go after the artifacts.
For Elvis items:
1. Graceland wasn't robbed.
2. None was stolen or if it was during his lifetime, Elvis wouldn't take it back and let the person have the item.
3. EPE sold the items themselves.
4. Elvis or family gave away alot of the items during the lifetime.
There is a big difference. Bob Sillerman can't not take to the court to get the items back because of one thing. Items were sold as is and all sales are final. Any court no matter on the how much the money is involved can't take back the items. Read the find print on the receipt from an item purchased by a collector. I have a friend who owns a Elvis Jumpsuit. Clearly mark on the receipt is All Sales Are Final.
Anyway, if Bob Sillerman he would do the biggest mistake for EPE. Those items were sold to the fan or given to the fan by Elvis. Priscilla and Lisa knows that the fans wouldn't like that at all. Also, it would go against the agreement the Lisa signed with Bob Sillerman and that is: Graceland and any items that personally belong to Elvis are hers. He has no rights to them at all. All he owns is rights to his image, music, videos, and other entertainment. He has no rights on the property of Graceland and the personal items of Elvis.
I think that 98% of the posters on this thread understand what you are saying...and agree. I hope you realize that my "scarf" comment was said in jest......:hmm:
presley31
12-29-2007, 03:56 PM
You are gettting yourself confused. Remember this:
For the Anicent Egypt artifacts they were:
1. tombs were robbed.
2. Artifacts stolen.
3. sold to either museums or private collectors over the course of time.
4. Because of the other three the Egypt government has the right to go after the artifacts.
For Elvis items:
1. Graceland wasn't robbed.
2. None was stolen or if it was during his lifetime, Elvis wouldn't take it back and let the person have the item.
3. EPE sold the items themselves.
4. Elvis or family gave away alot of the items during the lifetime.
There is a big difference. Bob Sillerman can't not take to the court to get the items back because of one thing. Items were sold as is and all sales are final. Any court no matter on the how much the money is involved can't take back the items. Read the find print on the receipt from an item purchased by a collector. I have a friend who owns a Elvis Jumpsuit. Clearly mark on the receipt is All Sales Are Final.
Anyway, if Bob Sillerman he would do the biggest mistake for EPE. Those items were sold to the fan or given to the fan by Elvis. Priscilla and Lisa knows that the fans wouldn't like that at all. Also, it would go against the agreement the Lisa signed with Bob Sillerman and that is: Graceland and any items that personally belong to Elvis are hers. He has no rights to them at all. All he owns is rights to his image, music, videos, and other entertainment. He has no rights on the property of Graceland and the personal items of Elvis.
now that was well said (y)(y)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 03:59 PM
:lol::lol::lol: Thats what JJ thread all about, so we can vent , you should try it, might do you some good.
:lol::lol:If I may quote someone.....that goes both ways!!! (y) ;);)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 04:00 PM
now that was well said (y)(y)
Yes, it was. It was also very much the same thing that Ellie said earlier today. ;);)
presley31
12-29-2007, 04:00 PM
:lol::lol:If I may quote someone.....that goes both ways!!! (y) ;);)
Quote me all you like, l wrote my piece of JJ thread.:blink:
thehillbillycat
12-29-2007, 04:03 PM
I think that 98% of the posters on this thread understand what you are saying...and agree. I hope you realize that my "scarf" comment was said in jest......:hmm:
I thank you. I have study up on Anicent Eypt so much that I can write my own book about it. If EP75 thinks that Bob Sillerman would try that let him think that. It will not hold up in any court of law what so ever. Because they was either sold or given away and not stolen like the Anicent Egypt artifacts.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 04:04 PM
:lol::lol::lol: Thats what JJ thread all about, so we can vent , you should try it, might do you some good.
I've looked for it and can't find it
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 04:05 PM
I thank you. I have study up on Anicent Eypt so much that I can write my own book about it. If EP75 thinks that Bob Sillerman would try that let him think that. It will not hold up in any court of law what so ever. Because they was either sold or given away and not stolen like the Anicent Egypt artifacts.
Yes....and there's the obvious difference.:king:
presley31
12-29-2007, 04:07 PM
I've looked for it and can't find it
must of not been looking to hard
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=17668
presley31
12-29-2007, 04:09 PM
I thank you. I have study up on Anicent Eypt so much that I can write my own book about it. If EP75 thinks that Bob Sillerman would try that let him think that. It will not hold up in any court of law what so ever. Because they was either sold or given away and not stolen like the Anicent Egypt artifacts.
That would be a exciting thread about Egypt, always had loads of questions.
rocknroll
12-29-2007, 04:09 PM
must of not been looking to hard
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=17668
That explains it. I'm not allowed in there.
Now, back on topic.(y)
You are gettting yourself confused. Remember this:
For the Anicent Egypt artifacts they were:
1. tombs were robbed.
2. Artifacts stolen.
3. sold to either museums or private collectors over the course of time.
4. Because of the other three the Egypt government has the right to go after the artifacts.
For Elvis items:
1. Graceland wasn't robbed.
2. None was stolen or if it was during his lifetime, Elvis wouldn't take it back and let the person have the item.
3. EPE sold the items themselves.
4. Elvis or family gave away alot of the items during the lifetime.
There is a big difference. Bob Sillerman can't not take to the court to get the items back because of one thing. Items were sold as is and all sales are final. Any court no matter on the how much the money is involved can't take back the items. Read the find print on the receipt from an item purchased by a collector. I have a friend who owns a Elvis Jumpsuit. Clearly mark on the receipt is All Sales Are Final.
Anyway, if Bob Sillerman he would do the biggest mistake for EPE. Those items were sold to the fan or given to the fan by Elvis. Priscilla and Lisa knows that the fans wouldn't like that at all. Also, it would go against the agreement the Lisa signed with Bob Sillerman and that is: Graceland and any items that personally belong to Elvis are hers. He has no rights to them at all. All he owns is rights to his image, music, videos, and other entertainment. He has no rights on the property of Graceland and the personal items of Elvis.
I see your point now. I just thought about him buying the lost stuff back since he bought out the Elvis-A-Rama museum in Las Vegas. I still think he will work to get the yellow Pentera to Graceland one way or the other.;)
Getlo
12-29-2007, 07:00 PM
Three pages so far devoted to yet another post without any sources whatsoever ... just more speculation and flaming from EP75 and Lakeisha.
Sick of it ... (n)
utmom2008
12-29-2007, 07:03 PM
Three pages so far devoted to yet another post without any sources whatsoever ... just more speculation and flaming from EP75 and Lakeisha.
Sick of it ... (n)
Agreed Getlo.(y) Those of us that dared to question it were branded rude and accused of merely trying to stir up trouble......
MissyM
12-29-2007, 07:08 PM
Don't worry utmom, you can always send me the scarf and I will keep it in my safe for you. I promise to return it when it's all cool out there. Promise I will, no really, I'll send it back. LOL
Three pages so far devoted to yet another post without any sources whatsoever ... just more speculation and flaming from EP75 and Lakeisha.
Sick of it ... (n)
Unless I have just recently gone blind, I do not see where Lakeisha posted anything on this thread. So why bring her name into this? Matter of fact she told me in an email that she left this forum because of harrasment. But can you blame her? Now, why is it every post or thread has to have "sources"? Not everything has a source. Or maybe you meant a horse.:lol:
Getlo
12-29-2007, 07:13 PM
Unless I have just recently gone blind, I do not see where Lakeisha posted anything on this thread. So why bring her name into this? Matter of fact she told me in an email that she left this forum because of harrasment.
No matter how may times I read this, it's still amusing.
Give it up, kid. Seriously. :blush:
You hve been reported. So keep it up.
Getlo
12-29-2007, 07:50 PM
You hve been reported. So keep it up.
That's okay, so have you ...
Tommy
12-29-2007, 08:04 PM
It's a shame, can't some of you get along. This thread is temporarily closed.
Getlo
12-29-2007, 08:07 PM
It's a shame, can't some of you get along.
Yes, it appears I may have forgotten the spirit of Christmas ...
... but if you saw the people I was forced to spend that day with ... ;)
Tommy
12-29-2007, 08:10 PM
This thread is temporarily closed.
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