Elton John talks about seeing & meeting Elvis

[Trelane P]

Here's a really interesting 4 min interview with Elton John talking about Elvis. Soem things I never knew.

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mLhX_f4to

[marijaep]

Thanks for posting that...I have always wondered what Elton thought of Elvis :D

[elvislady]

Thanks for the link, that was intereseting.
elvislady:xmas:

[Diane]

Thank you for posting this video. (y)

Diane

[utmom2008]

Thanks for the post(y)Interesting to hear what someone like Elton John thought of Elvis:hmm:I wonder what Elvis thought of Elton John??:hmm::king::hmm:

[LianaKaralivanou]

It was an interesting interview. I'm glad that Elton John said that there would be no Beatles or Hendrix if it wasn't for Elvis. He surely influenced their lives. But I have to disagree with Elton when he says that "Elvis was 42 when he died and looked like 62." Okay, he was not in a good shape towards the end (we all know that) but he didn't look like 62! My opinion.

[tcbeus]

Thanks for posting ,it was very interesting.

[Elvistcbkirch]

Thanks for the clip, but honestly, what is the new thing here? Elton says he saw him in Vegas, and then i 76 he went to see in Washington with his his mother. He said it was sad to see him, and that he was a drug addict. It is no secret to anybody any longer. Best regards and merry christmas. Martin

[Getlo]

Thanks for the clip, but honestly, what is the new thing here?

Firstly, this clip and the info contained therein may be new to younger fans.

Secondly, so what if there were no "secrets" in the interview? ;)

[Diane]

There were no secrets in the interview but Elton gave Elvis the respect he deserved and I agreed heartily with him about the media, the Colonel and the MM not having the guts to say no to him thus helping him in his demise.

I agree Liana, I don't think Elvis looked 62 either but I don't feel Elton meant any disrespect by it, I think he was just worried and shocked like the rest of us.

Diane

[Stryx]

There were no secrets in the interview but Elton gave Elvis the respect he deserved and I agreed heartily with him about the media, the Colonel and the MM not having the guts to say no to him thus helping him in his demise.

I agree Liana, I don't think Elvis looked 62 either but I don't feel Elton meant any disrespect by it, I think he was just worried and shocked like the rest of us.

Diane

Colonel says he didn't want to interfere with Elvis's personal life. The MM did say things to him.

By the way.....why do people blame everyone else apart from Elvis for his problems?

[Getlo]

By the way.....why do people blame everyone else apart from Elvis for his problems?

It's what they thrive on.

The MM bashers et al ... Elvis was perfect in their eyes and could do no wrong.

Others forced him to make bad choices ... everyone else used him.

Check out Topix for some of the more sickening of these sorts of theories.

[Stryx]

It's what they thrive on.

The MM bashers et al ... Elvis was perfect in their eyes and could do no wrong.

Others forced him to make bad choices ... everyone else used him.

Check out Topix for some of the more sickening of these sorts of theories.


Yeah - it's just crazy how people blame others for what happened to Elvis.

He was the master of his own destiny, from having the Colonel to his death.

[Diane]

Oh come on you two, then I guess Elton was a basher too. A lot of us feel Elvis didn't get the help he needed and believe in the saying "no man is an island", that he had emotional problems that were not addressed, but not all of us condemn the MM totally....the Colonel, well for me personally, yes I do.:)

Diane

[Getlo]

A lot of us feel Elvis didn't get the help he needed

He had the chance to get some help ... but refused.

[KPM]

Sure Elvis was the master of his destiny-so were the MM! So was Parker! But their "actions and inactions" had an affect on Elvis's life! His actions affected their lives. IMO Parker was out for Parker-smile on his face, pat on the back-but behind the smile was the thought "never let him get secure or too independent". Parkers "actions and inactions" worked to keep that insecurity in place. IMO The MM loved Elvis- but not enough to quit and stay gone. He always invited them back and they always came back. I'm sure Red and Sonny would have been back eventually-if Elvis had lived. They all have a hand in the situation and each hand has a degree of responsibility for all that happened. They all chose to be where they were-in the situation that existed.
Like I posted in another thread one of Elvis's friends who knew him in the Lauderdale Courts was asked by Elvis at the start to work and travel with him-this guy said no a couple times according to his comments in "Elvis Up Close" he told Elvis their friendship would not be the same and that was more important to him. Its to bad more of his friends did not take the same attitude. IMO

[Stryx]

Sure Elvis was the master of his destiny-so were the MM! So was Parker! But their "actions and inactions" had an affect on Elvis's life! His actions affected their lives. IMO Parker was out for Parker-smile on his face, pat on the back-but behind the smile was the thought "never let him get secure or too independent". Parkers "actions and inactions" worked to keep that insecurity in place. IMO The MM loved Elvis- but not enough to quit and stay gone. He always invited them back and they always came back. I'm sure Red and Sonny would have been back eventually-if Elvis had lived. They all have a hand in the situation and each hand has a degree of responsibility for all that happened. They all chose to be where they were-in the situation that existed.
Like I posted in another thread one of Elvis's friends who knew him in the Lauderdale Courts was asked by Elvis at the start to work and travel with him-this guy said no a couple times according to his comments in "Elvis Up Close" he told Elvis their friendship would not be the same and that was more important to him. Its to bad more of his friends did not take the same attitude. IMO

Who was this guy?

And more importantly.....did he have a friendship with Elvis to speak of with Elvis in the 60's and 70's?

My money is on the friendship not exisitng by the mid 60's.

Elvis did what he wanted when he wanted. People tried to talk to him, he wasnt interested.

It's a shame he didn't listen and or act on his own to stop his self destructive lifetyle.

[franny]

He had the chance to get some help ... but refused.

Yes sad, but true he refused! Did they have rehab then as they do now, seems all the stars today are in them...

Could Vernon have checked Elvis into something or did Elvis have to be the one to do that? He should have been the one to do that, but obviously didn't...

btw thanks, for the interview Trelane! (y) I agree that Elvis had a manger who ripped him off!

franny

[utmom2008]

Yes sad, but true he refused! Did they have rehab then as they do now, seems all the stars today are in them...

Could Vernon have checked Elvis into something or did Elvis have to be the one to do that? He should have been the one to do that, but obviously didn't...

btw thanks, for the interview Trelane! (y) I agree that Elvis had a manger who ripped him off!

franny
NO....rehabs were not the same as you are thinking of with today's stars. Now days I get the feeling they almost think of it as being quite "chic" to check into a rehab. Or, as Dr. Phil calls them, "Country Club rehabs". In the 70's there was still a bit of a question about how you could become addicted to a "prescribed medication."

[franny]

NO....rehabs were not the same as you are thinking of with today's stars. Now days I get the feeling they almost think of it as being quite "chic" to check into a rehab. Or, as Dr. Phil calls them, "Country Club rehabs". In the 70's there was still a bit of a question about how you could become addicted to a "prescribed medication."

Thanks, for your response Rosanne! I think you're right, as it seems to be a daily news event these days...

franny

[KPM]

]Who was this guy?[/B]

And more importantly.....did he have a friendship with Elvis to speak of with Elvis in the 60's and 70's?

My money is on the friendship not exisitng by the mid 60's.

Elvis did what he wanted when he wanted. People tried to talk to him, he wasnt interested.
It's a shame he didn't listen and or act on his own to stop his self destructive lifetyle.
I think this guys name was Paul. and I am not going to look it up to make sure it takes too much time and I don't have it. The statement is an accurate representation of what this guy said (whatever his name is).
He is one of the guys in the Lauderdale Courts photo which was posted a while back.
My point is I have never known an employee/employer relationship among friends to work. It always affects how the friendship is viewed and friends are not always the best employees-you may disagree. People may have tried to talk to him-but I would love to hear the true conversations as they actually happened-not through the "perhaps" self justifing, self grandizing, SELF FILTERED-accounts. Its human nature to make yourself look as good as possible -these guys are human.
I mean to be honest would any of these guys ever say to fans (if it is true)-"Nah we never talked to him, we were afraid to get him angry" Of course not. They arer going to stress "the time they told him how it was" Then you have to ask okay about 8 guys in the core MM how many times did they talk to him-once a piece? Or maybe 2, 3 times a piece? Was that enough? I honestly don't know. Like I said I would love to have the actual details of what was said and how many times he was approached.
You can tell someone with a worried serious look-"Man that stuff and you are out of control" and then you can laugh, say the same thing with a grin as you shake your head-and it comes off as a joke. But if you tell the story later and omit "the laugh-grin and head shake" it seems as it you confronted someone headon. IMO I think that leaves a little slack in how they describe what they did and how they did it.

Truthfully we disagree on one thing-I feel everyones lives are affected by the environment they are brought up in as kids, their genes, and the people and environment they live in as adults. It has a "cause and affect" or as science puts it for "every action their is a reaction"
From your posts I gather you feel everyone is in it alone and nothing which happens around them (past and present) should be considered as having any affect on their lives. IMO Valid argument-I just don't agree with it.
IMO My points are valid also-you just don't agree with it.

[KPM]

Yes sad, but true he refused! Did they have rehab then as they do now, seems all the stars today are in them...

Could Vernon have checked Elvis into something or did Elvis have to be the one to do that? He should have been the one to do that, but obviously didn't...

btw thanks, for the interview Trelane! (y) I agree that Elvis had a manger who ripped him off!

franny
Nope the days of "noble interventions" or personal revelations of "I have a problem and need to get help" were way in the future. No one wanted to admit they had problems-it showed weakness and frailty. You worked the problems out the best you knew how-(and that usually meant the worst most destructive ways possible) We mortals did not like to admit to our shortcomings either- but Heros could not have weaknesses-it just wasn't done. It will sound trite but "you had to live in those times" to see how big the differences truely were compared to the culture of today and perception of problems.

[franny]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny

[Stryx]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny

As far as I know and I am not 100% sure, I think Vernon could have had Elvis committed to undergo what we now call rehab.

[utmom2008]

As far as I know and I am not 100% sure, I think Vernon could have had Elvis committed to undergo what we now call rehab.
I think you are right Stryx.....that's when we used to say that someone had been "commited". While they were married, Priscilla is the one that could have done it.;)

[Diane]

If Elvis really did refuse to get help it was probably because he didn't believe yet that he had a real problem...after all, in those days prescription drugs were believed to be safe...doctors whether they deserved it or not were held in much higher esteem in those days. An awful lot has come to light since the 70's.

Diane

[JDD]

If Elvis really did refuse to get help it was probably because he didn't believe yet that he had a real problem...after all, in those days prescription drugs were believed to be safe...doctors whether they deserved it or not were held in much higher esteem in those days. An awful lot has come to light since the 70's.

Diane



Most people always think they have time, they'll do it next month after the tour or next week after the game.

JD

[Diane]

Yup JDD, that's still a very common way of thinking even today. (y)

Diane

[rickb]

Elton's Porch Swing in Tupelo is one of his best songs in years (one of his few good songs really) and it pays a nice tribute to Elvis
Check it out
Rick

[KPM]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny
It was Martin Sheen who stepped in and had his son Charlie put into a rehab center. Charlie admits now that it was the only way to help him and he has praised his dad for doing so.