Elvis sense of Humor

[elvislady]

Do you think elvis kept his sense of humor right up untill the day he died.
elvislady:xmas:

[EnigmaticSun]

I couldn't tell, I wasn't there. But I do know he impersonated Porky Pig during his last concert ("T-t-t-that's all folks"), unless I'm very much mistaken.

Or how about the alternative "Heart Of Rome" ("I'll take a piss in every fountain") from 1970?

[MissyM]

I do. I think that is why it was hard to imagine his sorrow being so great at times. Because he tried so hard to laugh them off. I also think that was his way of lightening things up for others that worried about him. In many ways, he thought of others before himself.

[Diane]

I agree, I think Elvis tried to be as cheerful as he could most of the time and I think he probably did have some genuine happy moments before he died...he looked for them.

Diane

[Lisarose]

I couldn't tell, I wasn't there. But I do know he impersonated Porky Pig during his last concert ("T-t-t-that's all folks"), unless I'm very much mistaken.

Or how about the alternative "Heart Of Rome" ("I'll take a piss in every fountain") from 1970?

:lmfao: Indeed! IMO, the spoken part during AYLT was just him having fun with the song. Too bad it's seen as him being drunk or strung out cause it's funny! Unfortunately, I grew up around a lot of drunks & in college knew a lot of guys who spent half their college days strung out, none of them were that funny.

[Getlo]

:lmfao: Indeed! IMO, the spoken part during AYLT was just him having fun with the song.

This was discussed with some heated debate on another thread. It wasn't just Elvis having fun during AYLT from In Concert. Other factors were in play.

I never found any of Elvis' concert banter more than just amusing either. It may be funny to us, but he was no comedian.

And as for real life, I wouldn't exactly say he had a sharp wit. Basically, he could have read the phone book, and everyone around him would have laughed their asses off like it was the funniest thing they'd ever heard.

[elvis himselvis]

I think he always had a sense of humor,but if it was right there until the end...I don't know.He was at the raquetball court on his last night and he seemed to had fun there,so I think he had his sense of humor till the end...but it wasn't as it was before.

[cameron]

Besides his music, I loved to see and hear him joke around with everyone.
Whether on stage, rehersals or whatever..
I met a man from Hawaii. He was going to send me any Elvis CD's ,DVD's I wanted.{copies, of course} Though I have some; I asked only for the
ones where he's laughing and having a good time. To my surprise; he sent them. Those are the ones I listen to when I need a "mood change.":D

[utmom2008]

:lmfao: Indeed! IMO, the spoken part during AYLT was just him having fun with the song. Too bad it's seen as him being drunk or strung out cause it's funny! Unfortunately, I grew up around a lot of drunks & in college knew a lot of guys who spent half their college days strung out, none of them were that funny.
I find alot of Elvis's humor during concert as funny and it appears that he is having fun. I have a really hard time with AYLT from June of 77....I have never thought of that as funny. I see it as very sad...to me it is a HUGE picture of just how bad things had gotten.(n)

[Sonny]

Remember that Elvis always fooled around with the spoken part of AYLT, almost all through the seventies when he did the song.

In 1977 it came across as disturbing, but it all has to do with how he looked on that CBS Special. If we never had seen the footage we would have thought of it as funny.

And the fact Elvis didn't look good, gives everybody (press) a good reason to point out the spoken part of AYLT. They even edited that part in the US version, with a fan talking over it.

[utmom2008]

Remember that Elvis always fooled around with the spoken part of AYLT, almost all through the seventies when he did the song.

In 1977 it came across as disturbing, but it all has to do with how he looked on that CBS Special. If we never had seen the footage we would have thought of it as funny.

And the fact Elvis didn't look good, gives everybody (press) a good reason to point out the spoken part of AYLT. They even edited that part in the US version, with a fan talking over it.
You may be right......if he weighed 175 lbs. and looked like he did in TTWII or AFH we might have taken it with a grain of salt...:hmm:

[Rover]

I think the spoken parts in Are you lonesome tonight make it seem like if he was high because of the sometimes hesitant diction...The first time I heard it I thought he was on drugs, but then I heard a lot of songs where he was changing the words, and now I think he was just having fun with Are you lonesome tonight :D
He had a special sense of humor, and this is a part of his talent I think

[Awickedreigndrop]

Have any of you heard the saying, "You gotta laugh to stay sane" ? Sometimes that's what I think Elvis was doing. There were so many bad things going on in his life that he had to laugh through them to keep his head up.

[Tony Trout]

I think the spoken parts in Are you lonesome tonight make it seem like if he was high because of the sometimes hesitant diction...The first time I heard it I thought he was on drugs, but then I heard a lot of songs where he was changing the words, and now I think he was just having fun with Are you lonesome tonight :D
He had a special sense of humor, and this is a part of his talent I think


He was having "fun" with the song but, sadly, he was "on" something that night....and up until 8/16/77.

It's painfully obvious that he wasn't "straight" during these shows...or any show (including Aloha) for that matter.

[EnigmaticSun]

It's painfully obvious that he wasn't "straight" during these shows...or any show (including Aloha) for that matter.

Well, I think he was. To be honest, he was just having fun with Charlie. An artist desperately trying to hide being gay wouldn't do this!

He did depend on some substances, but he was not out of it. If you're really doing something heavy (mentally or physically) you can only lie down or sleep. Putting up a show, even a weak one, would be too much. Some people are really exaggerating Elvis' drug problem.

Of course it was difficult watching Elvis' state of health - but the problem was not fooling around with Charlie.

[utmom2008]

It's painfully obvious that he wasn't "straight" during these shows...or any show (including Aloha) for that matter.

Tell me why you think it was "painfully" obvious that he was high during Aloha From Hawaii??? There is no question about Elvis in Concert, but I fail to make the connection with Aloha........:hmm::hmm:

[Tony Trout]

Tell me why you think it was "painfully" obvious that he was high during Aloha From Hawaii??? There is no question about Elvis in Concert, but I fail to make the connection with Aloha........:hmm::hmm:


It's been documented that he was given a shot of B-12 mixed with amphetamines straight into his hip before going on stage that night and he slurs his words during the band introductions...and he's definitely also under the influence of something (most likely downers) during the rehearsal show two days earlier..and of course, he was "out of it" a day after the show...he'd gone right back to taking pills again.

According to Billy Smith, Elvis always had something in his system in the 70s...whether onstage or offstage.

(he was also "high" during the MSG press conference).

[utmom2008]

It's obvious that he was high during the press conference for Aloha, but I still don't see it during the MSG press conference. Was this a topic awhile back? I can't remember, but it seems like it was. The main thing that strikes me during the Aloha rehearsal(aside from how badly he needed a haircut!) is that he almost loses his footing during American Trilogy. He comes really close. On the other hand...I know a guy that played college football, had numerous injuries, and as a result he could be classified as always high because he is never without a narcotic painkiller flowing thru his veins. Yet....there are times when you can tell he has taken "one" too many.............:D

[EnigmaticSun]

But then again, who cares, if it's true, about that all?

It goes a little far as to what was going around in his mind. He was not the kind of person who'd take a tranquilizer and not have any creativity or progression anymore.

[Joe Car]

C'mon you guys, high during the Aloha, give me a break! In one of the great vocal performances of his life, nailing song after song, he's considered high, especially with it being beamed worldwide, don't be ridiculous. Red and Sonny West, said that during the days and weeks that preceded Aloha and for the concert itself, he was fine, meaning not high. He was also fine for the rehearsal as well, he missed a step during Trilogy, but that was after completing a move. Tony, I'm sorry, he was fricking beaming with charisma for both shows, especially the rehearsal since he was a bit more relaxed. Had he been on downers, he wouldn't have been able to walk, let alone perform the songs he did. I think you need to go back and study the tape. As far as the actual Aloha itself, the man was completely focused, and gave a singing clinic, under enormous pressure.

[Josh&JodyKC]

[QUOTE=elvislady;167096]Do you think elvis kept his sense of humor right up untill the day he died.

YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE DID L.A. LADY.....

All elvis fans should listen to the work part and outtake (not on BMG though) of "If I'm a fool" ...
"""If I'm your God **** clown.....hahaha..."
Is that how it start out Elvis asks the Control Room....???as if he needs to know...the right lyrics....


All loyal elvis product buyers have noticed all along that lately the FTD digipacks are done in a LOW QUALITY way and have badly selected color pictures or most of them in B/W while colored pixs are available....SHAME ON YOU bmg !!! yOU ARE GOING FOR THE FAST BUCK AND WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT. I also refer to POT, GGGILRS, GOLD VOLOUME 2 (the gold suit does not shine in B/W...you moguls...) Besides, thank God the bootleggers were there fast and first to buy up all interesting and sparkling work parts, outtakes and alternative versions of GGGirls,GHappy, Spinout etc etc also the American studio marathon songs that BMG is still planning to release...all on one CD we guess, while the bootleggers have already issued 5 CDs with those.

When can we expect the next FTD digipacks and which ones ? What movies ?
Hope King Creole's complete (with outtakes, incomplete work parts, altern. versions etc) session will be out early 2008....50 years later than 1958.....!!!
Perfect timing it would be !!!!

Then WE WANT also to buy in 2008 PROM LAND (together with songs from GOOD TIMES) and the FROM EP BLVD (together with the 6 studio songs from MOODY BLUE).
:lmfao:
DOES ANYONE KNOW OUT THERE WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR 2008....WHY DON'T THEY SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE TO FANS AND EPFCs with professional info as good marketeers do in their music business ???

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED THANKS!

[Tony Trout]

C'mon you guys, high during the Aloha, give me a break! In one of the great vocal performances of his life, nailing song after song, he's considered high, especially with it being beamed worldwide, don't be ridiculous. Red and Sonny West, said that during the days and weeks that preceded Aloha and for the concert itself, he was fine, meaning not high. He was also fine for the rehearsal as well, he missed a step during Trilogy, but that was after completing a move. Tony, I'm sorry, he was fricking beaming with charisma for both shows, especially the rehearsal since he was a bit more relaxed. Had he been on downers, he wouldn't have been able to walk, let alone perform the songs he did. I think you need to go back and study the tape. As far as the actual Aloha itself, the man was completely focused, and gave a singing clinic, under enormous pressure.

I'm still gonna have to disagree with you...the way Elvis slurs his speech during the introductions (in the rehearsal show, especially) you can tell he's under the influenece of something..downers or whatever.

Elvis wasn't 100% straight in the 1970s as we'd all like to believe....

[elvislady]

[QUOTE=elvislady;167096]Do you think elvis kept his sense of humor right up untill the day he died.

YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE DID L.A. LADY.....

All elvis fans should listen to the work part and outtake (not on BMG though) of "If I'm a fool" ...
"""If I'm your God **** clown.....hahaha..."
Is that how it start out Elvis asks the Control Room....???as if he needs to know...the right lyrics....


All loyal elvis product buyers have noticed all along that lately the FTD digipacks are done in a LOW QUALITY way and have badly selected color pictures or most of them in B/W while colored pixs are available....SHAME ON YOU bmg !!! yOU ARE GOING FOR THE FAST BUCK AND WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT. I also refer to POT, GGGILRS, GOLD VOLOUME 2 (the gold suit does not shine in B/W...you moguls...) Besides, thank God the bootleggers were there fast and first to buy up all interesting and sparkling work parts, outtakes and alternative versions of GGGirls,GHappy, Spinout etc etc also the American studio marathon songs that BMG is still planning to release...all on one CD we guess, while the bootleggers have already issued 5 CDs with those.

When can we expect the next FTD digipacks and which ones ? What movies ?
Hope King Creole's complete (with outtakes, incomplete work parts, altern. versions etc) session will be out early 2008....50 years later than 1958.....!!!
Perfect timing it would be !!!!

Then WE WANT also to buy in 2008 PROM LAND (together with songs from GOOD TIMES) and the FROM EP BLVD (together with the 6 studio songs from MOODY BLUE).
:lmfao:
DOES ANYONE KNOW OUT THERE WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR 2008....WHY DON'T THEY SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE TO FANS AND EPFCs with professional info as good marketeers do in their music business ???

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED THANKS!

????;)
elvislady

[utmom2008]

C'mon you guys, high during the Aloha, give me a break! In one of the great vocal performances of his life, nailing song after song, he's considered high, especially with it being beamed worldwide, don't be ridiculous. Red and Sonny West, said that during the days and weeks that preceded Aloha and for the concert itself, he was fine, meaning not high. He was also fine for the rehearsal as well, he missed a step during Trilogy, but that was after completing a move. Tony, I'm sorry, he was fricking beaming with charisma for both shows, especially the rehearsal since he was a bit more relaxed. Had he been on downers, he wouldn't have been able to walk, let alone perform the songs he did. I think you need to go back and study the tape. As far as the actual Aloha itself, the man was completely focused, and gave a singing clinic, under enormous pressure.
(y)(y)(y) Good for you! Yes...I have heard the same things Joe Car! And...I believe I have read in the past that Joe Esposito said he was in better shape, mentally and physically, than he had been in years. I think some have reached a point that if Elvis looks to the right instead of looking to the left, then the obvious explanation must be that he "was high".(n) No....I don't think he was "high" during Aloha, I never have. Good Lord.....why "pick" the man to death??? Jeez.....I turned my ankle walking into the grocery store the other day. I hope everyone doesn't think that I was "high"..............

[utmom2008]

I'm still gonna have to disagree with you...the way Elvis slurs his speech during the introductions (in the rehearsal show, especially) you can tell he's under the influenece of something..downers or whatever.
I see that you are from North Carolina....I live in East Texas.:lmfao::lmfao:I hear people "slur" their speech everyday....doesn't mean a thing. Listen to his diction from the time he was old enough to talk.....he must have been "high" a lonnnngg time.;);)

[Rover]

We were talking about Elvis sense of humor, and ended up talking about drugs :blink:
High or not, Elvis was definitely funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZiM7YDryaA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6PgHbSMsGA

[Getlo]

:D

ELVIS WAS TRULY A GREAT HUMAN BEING...UP UNTIL THE VERY END !!!!
When can we expect the next FTD digipacks and which ones ? HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND SEASON'S GREETINGS TO ALL FAN-FRIENDS !!!:newyear

WHAT are you talking about?!

You've posted this same post in three or four different threads now ... and this post, for this thread, has nothing to do with Elvis' sense of humour.

(n):mad:(n)

[elvislady]

WHAT are you talking about?!

You've posted this same post in three or four different threads now ... and this post, for this thread, has nothing to do with Elvis' sense of humour.

(n):mad:(n)

Thanks getlo maybe your comment might get through to them.
elvislady;)

[utmom2008]

WHAT are you talking about?!

You've posted this same post in three or four different threads now ... and this post, for this thread, has nothing to do with Elvis' sense of humour.

(n):mad:(n)
Good point Getlo. I was beginning to think I was crazy, no matter what thread I click on there seems to be this same long post. I thought that went against forum rules?? :hmm: I see now that this poster was banned.........

[Merry]

I think Elvis has the best laugh, as his laugh is soooo infectious. :)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfFYuOJCQw

Kimmi

:xmas:
:newyear:

[Joe Car]

Sorry, time to get back on topic. Has anybody see that incredible photo of Elvis and Charlie from the Dec 12th 1976 Vegas midnight show, heads practically touching each other, they were laughing so hard, darn I wish I knew how to post pics. Elvis was sitting on the stool, which I'm guessing was for Are You Lonesome Tonight.

[Diane]

I have that picture Joe and it is one of my favorites...absolutely love it. No matter how bad he felt or how down he was, Elvis could always find humor somewhere.

Diane

[MissyM]

I just want to say, I've met some pretty funny high and drunk folks. The personality may be alters, but some of the basics are still there.

[elvislady]

I think Elvis has the best laugh, as his laugh is soooo infectious. :)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfFYuOJCQw

Kimmi

:xmas:
:newyear:

Thanks for the link jess i enjoyed it.
elvislady:xmas:

[Getlo]

I think Elvis has the best laugh, as his laugh is soooo infectious. :)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfFYuOJCQw


Does anyone seriously wonder why Elvis was laughing during this recording? ;)

[ruggishboo]

Does anyone seriously wonder why Elvis was laughing during this recording? ;)

Hey, he had to find something to make recording that song bearable!:P

[Lisarose]

We were talking about Elvis sense of humor, and ended up talking about drugs :blink:
High or not, Elvis was definitely funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZiM7YDryaA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6PgHbSMsGA

That's all I'm trying to say. IMO, he was funny, he certainly wouldn't give Bob Hope, Bill Cosby or Steve Martin a run for their money, but he could land a line and make it work most times.

[Getlo]

Hey, he had to find something to make recording that song bearable!:P

Well, I was referring to a particular substance which at the time he was experimenting with, but I can see your point. :D

[Diane]

Hey Missy, yes you are right, I've had some pretty laughing good times with some drunken friends. Some people get obnoxious but others do get really funny. Look at Keith Richards....sick sense of humor for sure, but also funny. The only bad thing is that if it's an addiction, you worry for their health.

Diane

[Joe Car]

Does anyone seriously wonder why Elvis was laughing during this recording? ;)

You're implying that he was high because he was laughing, geeze if that's the case, I'm high every day! The man found something funny, there was no slurring when he spoke or sang, and he ended up finishing the song, nicely.

[Joe Car]

Hey Missy, yes you are right, I've had some pretty laughing good times with some drunken friends. Some people get obnoxious but others do get really funny. Look at Keith Richards....sick sense of humor for sure, but also funny. The only bad thing is that if it's an addiction, you worry for their health.

Diane

There's nothing on that tape to give creedence to Elvis being high, the man found something funny. For all we know, somebody could have been making faces at him, or doing something in the background to get him going.

[Getlo]

You're implying that he was high because he was laughing

No, I'm not talking about pills, although I assume he was taking them at this time.

It is documented that, during the time of the recording sessions for Paradise, Hawaiian Style, he was using marijuana quite regularly. It was his only serious foray into the "demon" weed. He stopped after a little while as it aggravated his throat. The word he used to describe the high was "schluffy", and he stopped using it.

My contention is that Elvis was stoned (in the true, hippie, tree-hugging, THC-induced, 4:20 bang on way) on grass while recording Datin'.

:smoke:

[Getlo]

There's nothing on that tape to give creedence to Elvis being high, the man found something funny.

Uh-huh. Sure.

I can only assume from this comment you've never smoked weed?

[utmom2008]

Uh-huh. Sure.

I can only assume from this comment you've never smoked weed?
I have....twice in college. It had the opposite effect on me....I had a 3 hour crying spell. That was it for me....it was back to Crown and Coke. :D:D

[Joe Car]

Uh-huh. Sure.

I can only assume from this comment you've never smoked weed?

Like you ask everybody, where's your documentation that he's high or stoned when making this tape or during this particular session, singing this particular song, you have none, just pure speculation on your part. And yes, I have smoked weed before, though I doubt I could sing like that!

[Getlo]

Like you ask everybody, where's your documentation that he's high or stoned when making this tape or during this particular session, singing this particular song, you have none, just pure speculation on your part.

Look it up yourself, Joe; I'm sick of doing the work of others for them. Elvis was in his marijuana phase during this recording.



And yes, I have smoked weed before

And you still say Elvis wasn't stoned during Datin' ??! I'd suggest maybe trying some again, and putting the song on the turntable (not that one is condoning drug use, you understand!) :D

[SeeSeeRider777]

He was having "fun" with the song but, sadly, he was "on" something that night....and up until 8/16/77.

It's painfully obvious that he wasn't "straight" during these shows...or any show (including Aloha) for that matter.

He was really out of it for the rehersal show. Remember during the performance of See See Rider he started laughing for no reason. He was slurring his words through the whole concert. But I am not sure about the live show though. But why do you say he was high for the MSG press conference?

[Tony Trout]

He was really out of it for the rehersal show. Remember during the performance of See See Rider he started laughing for no reason. He was slurring his words through the whole concert. But I am not sure about the live show though.

He was high during the live show but nothing like he was in the rehearsal show...


But why do you say he was high for the MSG press conference?

Just watch the footage...and on page 537 of "Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" Billy Smith says that he was high during the press conference. He wasn't "out of it"...just pretty high.

[SeeSeeRider777]

I just watched the press conference. Elvis was a little high but he was smart enough to not reply on those questions about the war. Smart Move.

[Cryogenic]

How did a POSITIVE, LIGHT-HEARTED topic -- about Elvis' SENSE OF HUMOUR -- get turned into NEGATIVE, HEAVY-HANDED discussion of Elvis' DRUG USE?

Great sense of humour. Elvis liked a touch of the absurd. Some of his favourite movies involved Peter Sellers ("Dr Strangelove", "The Pink Panther") and he had an affinity for "Monty Python", too. Watch some of the crazy stuff he gets up to in the TTWII rehearsals. Giving head to the microphone, "baa-ing" during a run-through of "Twenty Days and Twenty Nights", falling off his chair, doing mock karate motions in time to bass and drumming (the funniest thing is when the musicians take his lead and surprise Elvis with a "fart" joke as he takes up his seat again). The pre-eminent rock 'n' roll icon of the 20th century had to be a little crazy, didn't he? You can't be square!

More seriously, humour was a very important facet of his personal attire; it shined as brightly as his outrageous threads. Psychologically, humour is used to deflect danger (amongst other things); it is a sudden easing of tension. Ergo, humour served Elvis well, to moderate the "threat" of rock 'n' roll and gain gradual acceptance, and later on, to moderate the "threat" of the intensity of his songs, meaning Elvis could inflame passion and entertain people at the same time. It's strange how Elvis could really be into a performance, yet still find time to be spontaneous and loopy. This defined him his whole career (before anyone thinks of blaming drugs). It was a key component of his personality. I also think Elvis was a master of intuitive autoirony. Consider "Heartbreak Hotel"; it's agonisingly sincere in one way, but sardonically sexual in another. If he'd recorded it in 1976, say, it would probably have been drenched in pathos -- imagine that; HH recorded in 1976! But he had his finger on the pulse of a nation ready for something new; the revitalising aspect of humour and parody was a critical part of that revolution; a revolution that we are all enjoying the fruits of today.

[SeeSeeRider777]

Another funny thing in TTWII was when he was singing Love Me. He said "im so horny" and he cracked up when he said the next line "begging on my knees". He was a funny man. But my favorite joke he did was giving mcdonalds money as a bonus for the MM.

[john carpenter]

In E.I.C. when he messes up the lyrics and says "and i'm standing there without any hair" was funny,high or not. I think he was just bored singing the same song for 17 years. He had a quick wit. If you ever listen to the x-rated "Find out what's happening", he say after several attempts to get the song right.. "I'd like to find the guy who wrote this and crush his fingers and break his pens" LOL. very funny,lot's of cussing ,but he was human and a perfectionist.

[KPM]

I don't know how many times during interviews I've heard someone who was close to him say he was a funny funny man. That his sense of humor was great.

[Lisarose]

This is not to deny that he did not have a drug problem, prescription or otherwise, or that he didn't partake of legal or street drugs. That he did use drugs often or sparingly, is the problem. So from now until the end of time, no one will ever look at much of anything he did without crediting it to drug use. He can never ever again just be plain old tired, jetlagged, have the flu or just be exhausted from doing 2 weeks of intense concerts - 2 shows a night in 8-10 different towns (or whatever the scheduling of his tours were). It's a shame that he can never have normal physical ailments or laugh or cry - it will always be due to drug use.

Once again, in my opinion, he could be just plain funny.

[Wendy56]

I love Elvis' laughing... It reflects the sweet sense of humor he had. :wub:

[cameron]

His sense of humor with his incredible voice is what I've always admired. One can't stay unhappy or mad when you hear him laugh .

[elvislady]

I don't know how many times during interviews I've heard someone who was close to him say he was a funny funny man. That his sense of humor was great.

Even though we did not know him personly you have to feel when you see the footage of him happy and having a laugh it was genuine, but we cant all be happy 24/7 and i think that showed at times.
elvislady

[TotallyInsane]

Good God Almighty!!! The man is laughing and he's automatically "STONED"!!! I do believe that his drug use is so overly exaggerated! I do not think that a person could have taken the amount of drugs he was accused of taking and even be able to walk onto a stage much less remember the words to 20-25 songs! Yes, he took pills but not to the extent it has been expressed by so many! We have no idea what was going on in that studio to make him crack up - maybe one of the guys was acting to the song and cracking him up - give the man a break - he deserved to laugh just like you and I!!!

[Getlo]

I do believe that his drug use is so overly exaggerated! I do not think that a person could have taken the amount of drugs he was accused of taking and even be able to walk onto a stage much less remember the words to 20-25 songs! Yes, he took pills but not to the extent it has been expressed by so many!

You'd be wrong. The toxicology reports detailed the extent of Elvis' drug use and abuse.

[cameron]

TotallyInsane;179734]Good God Almighty!!! The man is laughing and he's automatically "STONED"!!! I do believe that his drug use is so overly exaggerated! I do not think that a person could have taken the amount of drugs he was accused of taking and even be able to walk onto a stage much less remember the words to 20-25 songs! Yes, he took pills but not to the extent it has been expressed by so many! We have no idea what was going on in that studio to make him crack up - maybe one of the guys was acting to the song and cracking him up - give the man a break - he deserved to laugh just like you and I!!![/I must agree with you on this one.
He gave everything he had - but still some people want more . Since he's not here - some want to knock him down. :'(

[Johnny]

I must agree with you on this one.
He gave everything he had - but still some people want more . Since he's not here - some want to knock him down. :'(

Not quite, it has been documented what kind and how many drugs he took; it's just a fact about him, but not in any bad way.

[cameron]

Not quite, it has been documented what kind and how many drugs he took; it's just a fact about him, but not in any bad way.

It would be appreciated if the ones "playing doctor" post all the meds. and what each one does.
{nevermind, I already know and KPM has already done this, of course no one paid any attention}

It is our fault that the wild stories about EP rages on--30 years later . :(

[Getlo]

Not quite, it has been documented what kind and how many drugs he took; it's just a fact about him, but not in any bad way.

Exactly.

Some simply choose not to face the facts about the drugs: the amount used, the types of drugs, and the absolute tragedy that Elvis chose to go down that path.

The toxicology reports are there for all to see. No exaggerations; no b.s.

Elvis' sense of humour probably wasn't affected too much by the drugs though. Either a person is funny, or they're not.

[cameron]

Exactly.

Some simply choose not to face the facts about the drugs: the amount used, the types of drugs, and the absolute tragedy that Elvis chose to go down that path.

The toxicology reports are there for all to see. No exaggerations; no b.s.

Elvis' sense of humour probably wasn't affected too much by the drugs though. Either a person is funny, or they're not.

Many here know the "kind of meds " he was given. We just take it a bit further and look to see exactly what they were for and how they really affected him . We take off our "rose colored glasses " and also any blinders . ;)

[Getlo]

Many here know the "kind of meds " he was given. We just take it a bit further and look to see exactly what they were for and how they really affected him . We take off our "rose colored glasses " and also any blinders . ;)

Like a lot of fans, you are operating under the classic misapprehension that just because Elvis' drugs were prescribed, they were necessary.

Not all of them were. No way, no how. Never.

It is you, and fans of your ilk who refuse to acknowledge this, that are wearing those rose-coloured glasses.

rose-col·ored (rzklrd)
Adjective: Cheerful or optimistic, especially to an excessive degree: took a rose-colored view of the situation.
Idiom: through rose-colored glasses
With an unduly cheerful, optimistic, or favorable view of things: see the world through rose-colored glasses.

I hardly think any of my opinions when it comes to Elvis' drug abuse could fall into this category.

[cameron]

Like a lot of fans, you are operating under the classic misapprehension that just because Elvis' drugs were prescribed, they were necessary.

Not all of them were. No way, no how. Never.

It is you, and fans of your ilk who refuse to acknowledge this, that are wearing those rose-coloured glasses.

rose-col·ored (rzklrd)
Adjective: Cheerful or optimistic, especially to an excessive degree: took a rose-colored view of the situation.
Idiom: through rose-colored glasses
With an unduly cheerful, optimistic, or favorable view of things: see the world through rose-colored glasses.

I hardly think any of my opinions when it comes to Elvis' drug abuse could fall into this category.

Thank God, I was a doctor before I became an Elvis fan.:P
I see things as they are; not as I imagine them to be.

[Suzan]

What type of medicine did you practice? Because I've asked Dr. friends of mine and they said some of the drugs in Elvis' system were not necessary for any type of ailment he had...he was taking some VERY POTENT med. for terminally ill cancer patients and as the rumor has been debunked about Elvis having any type of cancer, I am curious, in your medical opinion, why you would think taking such a drug would be warranted?

[Getlo]

Thank God, I was a doctor before I became an Elvis fan.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[MissyM]

Suzan, I just want to tell you that some potent cancer drugs are used to treat rhematoid arthritis now. But I can almost bet that they were not back then because research and treatment in that era was not highly pursued. (just as Lupus was not) I'm just stating this in case someone wants to speculate the reason for him taking those drugs was to treat R.A.

[Suzan]

Suzan, I just want to tell you that some potent cancer drugs are used to treat rhematoid arthritis now. But I can almost bet that they were not back then because research and treatment in that era was not highly pursued. (just as Lupus was not) I'm just stating this in case someone wants to speculate the reason for him taking those drugs was to treat R.A.

Thanks Missy! :) I should have specified as well, but I was going on the basis that people would understand that we are referring to 30 some years ago, not by today's standards, etc...:)(y)

[Suzan]

What type of medicine did you practice? Because I've asked Dr. friends of mine and they said some of the drugs in Elvis' system were not necessary for any type of ailment he had...he was taking some VERY POTENT med. for terminally ill cancer patients and as the rumor has been debunked about Elvis having any type of cancer, I am curious, in your medical opinion, why you would think taking such a drug would be warranted?

Cameron I'm very curious as to what your answer is on this as it would be interesting to get your medical take on it.

[cameron]

I specialized in pathology and pharmacology--then went into working in Drug Rehab. All of it was fascinating.
I liked the people part of medicine . I don't practise medicine on any MB though , just state my opinions like everyone else.;)

[Suzan]

I specialized in pathology and pharmacology--then went into working in Drug Rehab. All of it was fascinating.
I liked the people part of medicine . I don't practise medicine on any MB though , just state my opinions like everyone else.;)

Really? Wow so you went for a whole new degree then? Lots of years.

So your not willing to give your opinion of that type of drug in his system but do state that you were a Dr.? Interesting indeed...
Nobody asking you to practice anything LOL, just asking for an OPINION since YOU stated you were a doctor.;)
But it's quite alright your gives away more then perhaps intended.;)

[cameron]

Really? Wow so you went for a whole new degree then? Lots of years.

So your not willing to give your opinion of that type of drug in his system but do state that you were a Dr.? Interesting indeed...
Nobody asking you to practice anything LOL, just asking for an OPINION since YOU stated you were a doctor.;)
But it's quite alright your gives away more then perhaps intended.;)
IF I'm not mistaken, it was you that pushed education.
I worked , studied and got degrees in a couple of different areas . I just see no reason to act like an a$$ because I did.
I've already given my opinions ; as much as I can legally.
I just can't/won't diagnose as some want to do. :P

[Suzan]

IF I'm not mistaken, it was you that pushed education.
I worked , studied and got degrees in a couple of different areas . I just see no reason to act like an a$$ because I did.
I've already given my opinions ; as much as I can legally.
I just can't/won't diagnose as some want to do. :P

I pushed education? I do believe in education, don't think I've ever pushed it though. :)

Nobody claiming you are or saying anything of the sort, if you'd like I can repost your comments and mine and you can clearly see that nobody is asking for your diagnoses simply your THOUGHTS and OPINIONS as to that type of drug found in his system, and I went off of, again, your own comments.:)

Here is what you said to prompt my thoughts:

Quote:
Originally Posted by cameron
Many here know the "kind of meds " he was given. We just take it a bit further and look to see exactly what they were for and how they really affected him . We take off our "rose colored glasses " and also any blinders .


Then you made this statement:
cameron
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Thank God, I was a doctor before I became an Elvis fan.
I see things as they are; not as I imagine them to be.


But if you are unwilling to do so, perfectly fine, silence says more then words sometimes. :p

[Getlo]

I've already given my opinions ; as much as I can legally. I just can't/won't diagnose as some want to do. :P

Come of it. "Legally"?

This is a message board, and you can say whatever you want.

No one could possibly be sued for giving medical advice on a forum, let alone an Elvis MB!

I mean, geez ...

[cameron]

I pushed education? I do believe in education, don't think I've ever pushed it though. :)

Nobody claiming you are or saying anything of the sort, if you'd like I can repost your comments and mine and you can clearly see that nobody is asking for your diagnoses simply your THOUGHTS and OPINIONS as to that type of drug found in his system, and I went off of, again, your own comments.:)

Here is what you said to prompt my thoughts:

Quote:
Originally Posted by cameron
Many here know the "kind of meds " he was given. We just take it a bit further and look to see exactly what they were for and how they really affected him . We take off our "rose colored glasses " and also any blinders .


Then you made this statement:
cameron
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Thank God, I was a doctor before I became an Elvis fan.
I see things as they are; not as I imagine them to be.


But if you are unwilling to do so, perfectly fine, silence says more then words sometimes. :p

To quote myself :

I've already given my opinions ; as much as I can legally.
I just can't/won't diagnose as some want to do.

[Suzan]

Ok Cameron ROF...
But to make it clear, nobody asked you to DIAGNOSE anything. I'm sorry you didn't understand the gist of my question.
I leave it as is as your silence speaks volumes.;)

[cameron]

Ok Cameron ROF...
But to make it clear, nobody asked you to DIAGNOSE anything. I'm sorry you didn't understand the gist of my question.
I leave it as is as your silence speaks volumes.;)

Frankly, all that's been done here is the rear ends of some being shown, IMO. :P

[cameron]

Come of it. "Legally"?

This is a message board, and you can say whatever you want.
No one could possibly be sued for giving medical advice on a forum, let alone an Elvis MB!
I mean, geez ...

Maybe you can. I tend to take what I do seriously.

As to being sued giving medical advice anywhere ; except in an authorized "space" --you are totally wrong.
Read your "medical sites " on the net. They can give information; not advice .

[Getlo]

Read your "medical sites " on the net. They can give information; not advice . [/B]

Precisely. So no one can sue!

[Suzan]

Frankly, all that's been done here is the rear ends of some being shown, IMO. :P

Oh you are so very correct in that. ;) :D

I don't need to read the net...I already said I have Dr. friends...oh btw my brother in law is an atty. here in L.A. (he and my sis in law just got wed Sat.:)) anyway, as far as he can tell it is not illegal if you are a Dr. to post your opinion on a message board or anywhere on the net for that matter, he sited MANY internet sites where Dr.'s have stated their opinions and even medical diagnosis. :) ;)

[cameron]

Oh you are so very correct in that. ;) :D

I don't need to read the net...I already said I have Dr. friends...oh btw my brother in law is an atty. here in L.A. (he and my sis in law just got wed Sat.:)) anyway, as far as he can tell it is not illegal if you are a Dr. to post your opinion on a message board or anywhere on the net for that matter, he sited MANY internet sites where Dr.'s have stated their opinions and even medical diagnosis. :) ;)\
That sounds like his problem; not mine. ;)

[Suzan]

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That sounds like his problem; not mine. ;)

LOL I'll let him know, I'm sure he'll be devastated. ROF

[renapap05]

Ofcourse he did,but not the last 2 hours I think...He was too sick to keep his humor...:'(:'(