Elvis myths

[Getlo]

Okay, here's something that I've thought a lot about over the years. What are some of the things you've read or heard about Elvis that were later proven to be myths?

I've made a list below.

Now remember ... if you don't like this thread, don't post on it.

1. Elvis once shot his mother;
2. Elvis never, ever took drugs (and he needed all of what he took!);
3. Elvis' body weight was all water-retention;
4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
6. Elvis once said that all black people were good for was to shine his shoes;


Any others?

[Alessia]

That he choreographed the title dance scene in Jailhouse Rock (it was based on his stage moves, but JR had a choreographer).

That he had bone cancer.

That he stole Hound Dog from its writer, Big Mama Thornton (this one was extremely popular for a few years).

And this seems to be a good thread to mention this one: that he had an affair with June Carter before she married Johnny Cash. Carter Cash's son mentions this in his book on his mother (which is fascinating reading for anyone who thinks there was a shred of truth in the movie Walk the Line, by the way). And I've seen an interview with June Carter in which she claimed that Elvis had a massive crush on her.

This one was new to me - I thought Anita Carter was the one that interested Elvis. Does anyone know if there's any truth in it?

[Getlo]

that he had an affair with June Carter before she married Johnny Cash. And I've seen an interview with June Carter in which she claimed that Elvis had a massive crush on her. This one was new to me - I thought Anita Carter was the one that interested Elvis. Does anyone know if there's any truth in it?

Well, it wasn't an affair in the sense that anyone was cheating on anyone else; but June and Elvis had a bit of a thing going, before Johnny was on the scene.

In the 70s, Johnny burned Elvis' love letters to her in a fit of jealousy.

[Alessia]

Well, it wasn't an affair in the sense that anyone was cheating on anyone else; but June and Elvis had a bit of a thing going, before Johnny was on the scene.

In the 70s, Johnny burned Elvis' love letters to her in a fit of jealousy.


I knew about burning the letters. Although that one didn't make it into Johnny's autobiography, LOL.

I guess I don't see the timing with Elvis and June. I thought she would be pregnant with her daughters a lot of the time when she first knew him.

[SleepyJack]

Have to say that`s a new one to me!......Never heard of Elvis and June having "a thing"........Now there was a good woman....Elvis always seemed to let the good ones get away!

[rocknroll]

He stole black music.

[SleepyJack]

He constantly spoke to his dead twin.

[ksimms2]

good thread Getlo. I didn't hear Elvis had a thing for June, I heard it was her sister - and she wouldn't give him the time of day.

[KPM]

Okay, here's something that I've thought a lot about over the years. What are some of the things you've read or heard about Elvis that were later proven to be myths?

I've made a list below.

Now remember ... if you don't like this thread, don't post on it.

1. Elvis once shot his mother;
2. Elvis never, ever took drugs (and he needed all of what he took!);
3. Elvis' body weight was all water-retention;
4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
6. Elvis once said that all black people were good for was to shine his shoes;


Any others?

It wasn't all water-retention, but you can see the puffiness in his hands and face at times which seemed to disappear a few concerts later-that is a sign of some water-retention.

[Diane]

To answer Getlo's post of myths:

l. He never shot his mother

2. He took more drugs than was prescribed and was addicted

3. He gained weight and at times had water retention on top of it

4. Don't know what book he was reading when he died

5. I think he tried to be faithful the first part of his marriage but don't think it lasted

6. He had no prejudice against blacks and doubt very much if he said what was stated

My question:

Did he really like the Colonel or was he intimidated by him?

Diane

[Elvis]

He stole black music.

he didnt steal black music he was Brought up around it and he Liked it simple as he didnt steal Thats why hes king of rock and roll

[Rover]

Good idea for a thread :)
The biggest myth: Elvis ain't dead, he went home!

[franny]

I don't know if this is a myth or not, but I read that Elvis turned down Marilyn Monroe...

franny

[rocknroll]

he didnt steal black music he was Brought up around it and he Liked it simple as he didnt steal Thats why hes king of rock and roll

That's why I stated it as a MYTH. We are saying the same thing....figure it out.

[rhythmknights]

I don't know if this is a myth or not, but I read that Elvis turned down Marilyn Monroe...

franny

I remember that myth as Elvis & Marilyn had a quickie at his hotel room!

Also, Elvis was gay.

[Never heard about June C. and Elvis, Johnny was jealous of Elvis? THat's kinda romantic that he burned her old love letters. Why did she keep them? boy that would've made a great c&w song!:lmfao:]

[cameron]

1. Elvis once shot his mother;
Nope, I don't believe he shot his mother.{never heard that one}

2. Elvis never, ever took drugs (and he needed all of what he took!);
Think Elvis and friends tried some a time or two.
He needed some of what he took.Doctor prescribed more ,possibly. ?

3. Elvis' body weight was all water-retention;
Much of his weight/puffiness was water retention.

4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
Two different books was said that he was reading. One of them was about Jesus. Don't really care .

5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
According to Cilla; he was .Good enough for me.

6. Elvis once said that all black people were good for was to shine his shoes;
That's already been proven wrong.

Already looked at most of this. It's enough for me.

[rocknroll]

1. Elvis once shot his mother;
Nope, I don't believe he shot his mother.{never heard that one}

2. Elvis never, ever took drugs (and he needed all of what he took!);
Think Elvis and friends tried some a time or two.
He needed some of what he took.Doctor prescribed more ,possibly. ?

3. Elvis' body weight was all water-retention;
Much of his weight/puffiness was water retention.

4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
Two different books was said that he was reading. One of them was about Jesus. Don't really care .

5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
According to Cilla; he was .Good enough for me.

6. Elvis once said that all black people were good for was to shine his shoes;
That's already been proven wrong.

Already looked at most of this. It's enough for me.


"Cilla" didn't say Elvis was faithful She said his cheating was part of the territory.

[JDD]

Now remember ... if you don't like this thread, don't post on it.





I wish that, was a board rule.

JD

[cameron]

"Cilla" didn't say Elvis was faithful She said his cheating was part of the territory.
I'm not here to "debate" .I gave my answers.
I've already looked at these myths. The "debate" is yours and others.
Enjoy. :)

[Awickedreigndrop]

Here's one crazy one I was hearing when I was a child....
Elvis was kidnapped by aliens. :doh:

[elvislady]

Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison are alive
Myths:
Elvis didn’t die in 1977 but used that as a cover to go into seclusion and get out of the public spotlight. Jim Morrison is alive and someone else’s body is in his grave.
Facts:
In spite of extensive and largely irrefutable evidence to the contrary, there are still those who believe that Elvis is alive and is periodically spotted in convenience stores, restaurants and trailer parks all over the world.

Some people still don’t believe that Morrison’s body is the one buried in his grave in a Paris cemetery. The official cause of Morrison’s was listed as a heart attack -- believed by many to have been drug related -- in 1971. One enterprising gentleman has even produced a video (for $24.95 plus shipping) that he claims is Morrison living the life of a cowboy in the Pacific Northwest. People who have seen the video say the man in it bears no resemblance whatsoever to Morrison, and other than the fact that many of his song lyrics had mystical themes, there is no evidence to suggest that his death was faked.

http://hometown.aol.com/elvisdecoded/newindex.html
Here is a interesting site.

elvislady

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I've heard all the run of the mill stuff, the best is that Elvis shot his mother... why on earth would he do that lol.

The other stuff about Elvis being alive {Yawn} is still rife, peddled by deluded Presleytarians from planet Mars :lol:

I also read a long time ago that the Col made Elvis go in to the army because he new that Elvis would burn out and the fans would get bored!

Unfortunately the biggest area for Myths is message boards!! on the flip side to that you can also learn a great deal (y)

[elvislady]

Unfortunately the biggest area for Myths is message boards!! on the flip side to that you can also learn a great deal.

(y)(y) couldnt agree more.
elvislady:D

[Getlo]

Think Elvis and friends tried some a time or two.


What's the MM's drug taking got to do with anything? The thread is about Elvis myths.


4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
Two different books was said that he was reading. One of them was about Jesus. Don't really care .

The book that said he was reading a book about Jesus is wrong. But, if you "don't really care" ...


5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
According to Cilla; he was .Good enough for me..

And if Cilla had said the opposite, you'd be skewering her. And what if the MM - along with their "awful" stories - had said that he was actually faithful? Would you then pick'n'choose which parts of their stories to believe?

[cameron]

What's the MM's drug taking got to do with anything? The thread is about Elvis myths.



The book that said he was reading a book about Jesus is wrong. But, if you "don't really care" ...



And if Cilla had said the opposite, you'd be skewering her. And what if the MM - along with their "awful" stories - had said that he was actually faithful? Would you then pick'n'choose which parts of their stories to believe?
Back off !! I gave my opinion !! Nothing more nothing less.
I'm not a Cilla basher either .

[rocknroll]

I'm not here to "debate" .I gave my answers.
I've already looked at these myths. The "debate" is yours and others.
Enjoy. :)

You instigate debate (hense my response to your post), then dive out when challenged. That's your M.O.

To get back on topic about Elvis myths:

Elvis never cheated on Priscilla is a myth.:D

[presley31]

I've heard all the run of the mill stuff, the best is that Elvis shot his mother... why on earth would he do that lol.

The other stuff about Elvis being alive {Yawn} is still rife, peddled by deluded Presleytarians from planet Mars :lol:

I also read a long time ago that the Col made Elvis go in to the army because he new that Elvis would burn out and the fans would get bored!

Unfortunately the biggest area for Myths is message boards!! on the flip side to that you can also learn a great deal (y)

l agree JJ(y)(y)

[Alessia]

Never heard about June C. and Elvis, Johnny was jealous of Elvis? THat's kinda romantic that he burned her old love letters. Why did she keep them? boy that would've made a great c&w song!

In John Carter Cash's book, he says June sometimes would reminisce about Elvis and wonder what it would have been like if she'd wound up with him. But that may have been her way of tweaking Johnny Cash, who apparently never found it very very easy to be true, to June or to his first wife. June said she told Johnny when he got rid of Elvis' letters that he shouldn't have done that - they were worth a lot of money (she was joking).

More on topic, here are a few myths out there now thanks to Walk the Line: that Elvis got Johnny Cash hooked on drugs, and that Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins and Roy Orbison all toured together on the same bill throughout the South in their Sun days.

[Stryx]

Back off !! I gave my opinion !! Nothing more nothing less.
I'm not a Cilla basher either .


Opinions are not worth much. Unless you can show how you came to them.

Im starting to think every post of yours is an opinion as you rarely back up any of your claims. Some of which are quite imaginative.

[Elvis_Priestly]

The book that said he was reading a book about Jesus is wrong. But, if you "don't really care" ...

Could you source this assertion for me please?

[cameron]

According to the book: The Colonel by Alanna Nash .
Elvis took into his bathroom to read ; A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus. {page 306} the morning of August 16th, 1977.

[Getlo]

Could you source this assertion for me please?

Gladly.

THE DEATH OF ELVIS by Thompson & Cole; one of many sources. Elvis was actually reading a magazine called Sex and Psychic Energy. According to Dan Warlick (Shelby County Medical Examiner in 1977), "It was sorta' like a IF HER PISCES IS IN THIS POSITION, THEN YOUR CAPRICORN SHOULD BE HERE type of publication...very hardcore by 1977 standards."

It certainly wasn't porn; I really don't know why they bothered switching it with a book on the Shroud of Turin.

It is also referenced in Guralnick's Careless Love, among others.

Personally, I'd rather trust these two references than other sources.

[Lisarose]

In John Carter Cash's book, he says June sometimes would reminisce about Elvis and wonder what it would have been like if she'd wound up with him. But that may have been her way of tweaking Johnny Cash, who apparently never found it very very easy to be true, to June or to his first wife. June said she told Johnny when he got rid of Elvis' letters that he shouldn't have done that - they were worth a lot of money (she was joking).

More on topic, here are a few myths out there now thanks to Walk the Line: that Elvis got Johnny Cash hooked on drugs, and that Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins and Roy Orbison all toured together on the same bill throughout the South in their Sun days.

Well, then I guess the myth I've read is that Elvis never wrote any letters - Yet, there are the letters to Anita, the letters to June, the letter to Nixon,. . .

btw, what a sense of humor June had! Elvis' letters certainly would've been worth a lot of money!:lmfao:

[cameron]

IF anyone is depending on Dan Warlick for the truth;
Remember ;" Dan Warlick, a Shelby County medical examiner, returned to Graceland after the body had been removed. It was customary to photograph death scenes for future reference and Dan took several photographs for his files. The bathroom had been cleaned "

Warlick and Francisco both said there were never any pictures taken.
{even at the autopsy} Yet when this trial finally got to court in 1980 , there were pictures presented ,according to Thompson and Cole .

There was no Shroud of Tourin as it hadn't been written yet.
There was ; "A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus"
Which even members of the MM claimed Geller got for him to read .

It just proves no one has the complete truth yet and probably never will.

[Getlo]

There was no Shroud of Tourin as it hadn't been written yet. There was ; "A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus"

This book was about the Shroud of Turin ... I can only presume from the comment above that you've not read it? I have. And it's about the Shroud of Turin.

From the Las Vegas Sun: "One is the rare 'A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus', an examination of the Shroud of Turin, a book that was published just once, in 1972."

And from Careless Love: "Larry took great care to place The Scientific Search for the Faces of Jesus, an inquiry into the mystery of the Shroud of Turin, at the top of the pile".

And one can search the Net for details about that book's contents.


IF anyone is depending on Dan Warlick for the truth;

Again, from Careless Love (on Warlick's examination of the death scene): "The only thing that appeared to have been missed ... was the book that Elvis had in the bathroom with him when he died, a study of sex and psychic energy that correlated sexual positions with astrological signs".

Jak, Stryx ... was I right, or was I right?

[jak]

This book was about the Shroud of Turin ... I can only presume from the comment above that you've not read it? I have. And it's about the Shroud of Turin.

From the Las Vegas Sun: "One is the rare 'A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus', an examination of the Shroud of Turin, a book that was published just once, in 1972."

And from Careless Love: "Larry took great care to place The Scientific Search for the Faces of Jesus, an inquiry into the mystery of the Shroud of Turin, at the top of the pile".

And one can search the Net for details about that book's contents.




Again, from Careless Love (on Warlick's examination of the death scene): "The only thing that appeared to have been missed ... was the book that Elvis had in the bathroom with him when he died, a study of sex and psychic energy that correlated sexual positions with astrological signs".

Jak, Stryx ... was I right, or was I right?

Youre correct.The book is about the shroud of turin.Elvis was not reading it when he passed.That book was substituted because it just sounded better than what he actually was looking at.They were just doing damage control.
Jak

[Stryx]

This book was about the Shroud of Turin ... I can only presume from the comment above that you've not read it? I have. And it's about the Shroud of Turin.

From the Las Vegas Sun: "One is the rare 'A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus', an examination of the Shroud of Turin, a book that was published just once, in 1972."

And from Careless Love: "Larry took great care to place The Scientific Search for the Faces of Jesus, an inquiry into the mystery of the Shroud of Turin, at the top of the pile".

And one can search the Net for details about that book's contents.



Again, from Careless Love (on Warlick's examination of the death scene): "The only thing that appeared to have been missed ... was the book that Elvis had in the bathroom with him when he died, a study of sex and psychic energy that correlated sexual positions with astrological signs".

Jak, Stryx ... was I right, or was I right?


Yeah bang on!

[Stryx]

IF anyone is depending on Dan Warlick for the truth;
Remember ;" Dan Warlick, a Shelby County medical examiner, returned to Graceland after the body had been removed. It was customary to photograph death scenes for future reference and Dan took several photographs for his files. The bathroom had been cleaned "

Warlick and Francisco both said there were never any pictures taken.
{even at the autopsy} Yet when this trial finally got to court in 1980 , there were pictures presented ,according to Thompson and Cole .

There was no Shroud of Tourin as it hadn't been written yet.
There was ; "A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus"
Which even members of the MM claimed Geller got for him to read .

It just proves no one has the complete truth yet and probably never will.


I take it your not one to major in the History of Christianity!

It is said that the imprint of a mans face on the shroud is that of Jesus Christ.

That book was written, published and in Graceland when Elvis died.

[rocknroll]

So, let me get this straight. Elvis died, sitting on the toliet, reading porn???

That's the way I want to go out.:D

[cameron]

There was no shroud of Turin written and published until 1978 ..
http://www.shroud.com/78exam.htm

As far as what Elvis was reading in his own private bathroom. I could care less. It's immaterial to his death. ..at least to me.

The way this was answered {from some} only seems to be leading into a debate on religion, which I never do; even with friends.
What one believes ,as far as religion is their personal beliefs and something I would never make fun of .
Believe what you like. As stated at the beginning of this thread :
it's about MYTHS.
As far as I can see, no one can prove a myth one way or another .

[SleepyJack]

Well if Myths can`t be proven or disproven,I think I`ll start one too....Elvis was reading Captain Marvel comics at the time of his death.....

[Stryx]

There was no shroud of Turin written and published until 1978 ..
http://www.shroud.com/78exam.htm

As far as what Elvis was reading in his own private bathroom. I could care less. It's immaterial to his death. ..at least to me.

The way this was answered {from some} only seems to be leading into a debate on religion, which I never do; even with friends.
What one believes ,as far as religion is their personal beliefs and something I would never make fun of .
Believe what you like. As stated at the beginning of this thread :
it's about MYTHS.
As far as I can see, no one can prove a myth one way or another .


Cameron why do you continue trying to prove something that you are wrong about.

Check this out, look under Frank O Adams who wrote the scientific search for the face of Jesus and then check when it was published beside his name....1972 and Elvis died in 77 right? That's FIVE years prior to Elvis's death that the book was published.

http://www.shroud.com/booklist.htm#a


A little bit of research before continuing to post factually incorrect statements would help.

Well as we can and have proven, that book was published before Elvis died and your myth that it wasn't has been disproven again.

[cameron]

It was said The Scientific Search For The Face of Jesus was the
[I]only book out there at the time of Elvis' death. No arguement from me.

It was Shroud of Turin that was not published until 1978.
. http://www.shroud.com/booklist.htm#a
as some has said.Please read before trying to argue. Thanks.

[Getlo]

There was no shroud of Turin written and published until 1978 ..
http://www.shroud.com/78exam.htm

As far as what Elvis was reading in his own private bathroom. I could care less. It's immaterial to his death. ..at least to me.
As far as I can see, no one can prove a myth one way or another .

Why must you always be so contrary in the face of incontrovertible evidence?
THE BOOK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS PUBLISHED IN 1972. THAT'S 1972 ... SIX YEARS PRIOR TO 1978. End of debate. You're wrong on this. And if you don't care, why post on the subject?



It was said The Scientific Search For The Face of Jesus was the
[I]only book out there at the time of Elvis' death. No arguement from me.

Wrong.


It was Shroud of Turin that was not published until 1978.
. http://www.shroud.com/booklist.htm#a
as some has said.Please read before trying to argue. Thanks.

So what? You're talking about a completely different book!

There is no need for further debate about this. It's a done deal.

Back to the topic of Elvis myths ...

The story of Elvis seeing a dead body as a kid (which led to his insomnia later on in life).

Anyone have any thoughts on this; is it true, do you think?

[Sonny]

In Elvis' case I do not believe that is true entirely.

Elvis' insomnia in later years might have been caused by the unusual lifestyle, in combinations with meds.

Sometimes people get affected by things like that, but my bet is that often happens when that person is in a depression. That might bring back bad thoughts from the past or even depressing future views.

[garydt]

What about the myth that Elvis was an alien and now he's gone back to his mother planet:D

[Getlo]

What about the myth that Elvis was an alien and now he's gone back to his mother planet:D

No, that one is true.

It was in Men In Black.

"Elvis ain't dead son ... he just went home!"

Please, garydt, try not to ruin this thread with reality! :lol:

[utmom2008]

So, let me get this straight. Elvis died, sitting on the toliet, reading porn???

That's the way I want to go out.:D
:lmfao::lmfao: I wonder if after I have been dead for 30 years people will still be arguing over wether I was reading People Magazine or US Weekly. :lol::lol:

[Elvistcbkirch]

Dear everybody. Elvis was reading a magazine called 'Sex And Psychic Energy', when he died. The investigator, Daniel D. Warlick, called it raunched pornography with lots of illustrations. Best regards, Martin

[Joe Car]

This is an excellent topic, especially with there being so many myths about Elvis, a lot have have been addressed so far. I think the biggest myth that has been exaggerated for the most part, was his weight near the end of his life. Granted, there were many unflattering pics of Elvis his last couple of years, but there were some awesome ones also, even well into 1977, Charlotte Feb 19th or 21st comes to mind. Also, I thought he looked quite well meeting Todd Morgan, June 26th/77, at the Indy airport, though obviously not rake thin, he wasn't grossly overweight either. Take a look at this video, and let me know what you think. The first bit is from June 26th/77, the rest 1976.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwGpb4D7cQo

[Johnny]

Dear everybody. Elvis was reading a magazine called 'Sex And Psychic Energy', when he died. The investigator, Daniel D. Warlick, called it raunched pornography with lots of illustrations. Best regards, Martin

Getlo beat you to it - he has already posted that info

[Elvistcbkirch]

Sorry, Jht. I did'nt see that.

[utmom2008]

Sorry, Jht. I did'nt see that.
No need to apologize Martin. Maybe the more that post this information the quicker some of the non-believers will realize this is the truth. Thanks. :D

[Getlo]

Here's another (more recent) myth. I warn you, it's not for the faint hearted. It's from Topix (again) ... the poster Lee, who does not have the courage to show her face here. Nor does Becky, who believes she gets picked on for her opinions and that a certain part of my body doesn't stink!

And it's a big hello to ol' Maurice, who had the hide to criticise me for looking at Topix every day (which I don't); yet, he comes here almost every day to check on what we say. Will you people ever show yourselves?

And TCB World is growing in members each day too, Maurice..

Anyway, here's Lee's rather hilarious (and more than a little paranoid) myth. She is referring to us, and the people over on FECC.

"About 50% of the people on these boards who call themselves Elvis fans are not Elvis fans at all but members of the MM, people from Priscilla's family who want Elvis' reputation to stay dirty so Priscilla can continue to play the injured little bird, and people who were jealous of Elvis when he was alive and hate him. They are "inside out" Elvis fans, truly PHONY Elvis fans. I don't think they are misguided fans, or uniformed fans, or shortsighted fans, they are people who say they are fans but they KNOW that they are not Elvis fans at all. They are out and out phonies posing as Elvis fans"

Okay, raise your hands phonies! ;)

[utmom2008]

Here's another (more recent) myth. I warn you, it's not for the faint hearted. It's from Topix (again) ... the poster Lee, who does not have the courage to show her face here. Nor does Becky, who believes she gets picked on for her opinions and that a certain part of my body doesn't stink!

And it's a big hello to ol' Maurice, who had the hide to criticise me for looking at Topix every day (which I don't); yet, he comes here almost every day to check on what we say. Will you people ever show yourselves?

And TCB World is growing in members each day too, Maurice..

Anyway, here's Lee's rather hilarious (and more than a little paranoid) myth. She is referring to us, and the people over on FECC.

"About 50% of the people on these boards who call themselves Elvis fans are not Elvis fans at all but members of the MM, people from Priscilla's family who want Elvis' reputation to stay dirty so Priscilla can continue to play the injured little bird, and people who were jealous of Elvis when he was alive and hate him. They are "inside out" Elvis fans, truly PHONY Elvis fans. I don't think they are misguided fans, or uniformed fans, or shortsighted fans, they are people who say they are fans but they KNOW that they are not Elvis fans at all. They are out and out phonies posing as Elvis fans"

Okay, raise your hands phonies! ;)
Well....there you are, I guess I'm busted! :lmfao::lmfao: Getlo...these sound like the same kind of people that might enjoy the "fantasy" book on the Elvis affair. :hmm::hmm:

[Alessia]

I think the biggest myth that has been exaggerated for the most part, was his weight near the end of his life.

I read somewhere that he weighed 350 lbs when he died. Which I really can't believe - that would have been TWICE his normal weight. I just don't see where he ever looked twice the size he was for most of his life. 225-250 lbs sounds a lot more realistic to me (which would be very heavy for someone with Elvis' body type).

[Getlo]

Another myth ...

The story of Elvis' "lost" Harley Davidson motorbike.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/dream/elvis.asp

There's another version of the story about how the bike had a note with it: "To Elvis, from James Dean", which is even more ridiculous.

[Diane]

I agree Alissia with your estimate of Elvis' weight at the end of his life. I never heard he weighed around 350 but that is way out of line.

Diane

[Getlo]

I read somewhere that he weighed 350 lbs when he died. 225-250 lbs sounds a lot more realistic to me (which would be very heavy for someone with Elvis' body type).

350lbs is more like Lamar than Elvis.

Elvis was at his heaviest in February 1977, when I suppose he was nudging the 290 mark?

As discussed before, Elvis did fall into the category of obese, as any male weight chart will tell you.

But 350? Naaah.

[utmom2008]

I read somewhere that he weighed 350 lbs when he died. Which I really can't believe - that would have been TWICE his normal weight. I just don't see where he ever looked twice the size he was for most of his life. 225-250 lbs sounds a lot more realistic to me (which would be very heavy for someone with Elvis' body type).
I have read that also. It's either in the Goldman book or it's in "Down at the End of Lonely Street". Can't remember which, but I remember thinking at the time that there was no way he weighed 350. With his frame he would have looked like a circus act at 350......(n)

[franny]

The story of Elvis seeing a dead body as a kid (which led to his insomnia later on in life).

Anyone have any thoughts on this; is it true, do you think?

Didn't Elvis always have insominia? I thought it was because he was worried about sleepwalking...:hmm:

franny

[Getlo]

Didn't Elvis always have insominia? I thought it was because he was worried about sleepwalking...:hmm:

Apparently, the sleepwalking happened a few times in childhood, but there are no reports of it happening in his adult life as far as I'm aware.

As a fellow insomniac myself, I can sympathise. I can count the times I've had a full, uninterrupted 8 hour night sleep on one hand ... and I'm 40. I mean that literally too ... I've had maybe four nights of full sleep in my entire life.

Like the man himself, "I average about four or five hours a night I guess ..."

And in case you're wondering (;)), the longest I was ever awake and simply could not sleep was 78 hours. No, that's not a typo ... 78 hours straight in late 2004.

Good times ... !

[Stryx]

Apparently, the sleepwalking happened a few times in childhood, but there are no reports of it happening in his adult life as far as I'm aware.

As a fellow insomniac myself, I can sympathise. I can count the times I've had a full, uninterrupted 8 hour night sleep on one hand ... and I'm 40. I mean that literally too ... I've had maybe four nights of full sleep in my entire life.

Like the man himself, "I average about four or five hours a night I guess ..."

And in case you're wondering (;)), the longest I was ever awake and simply could not sleep was 78 hours. No, that's not a typo ... 78 hours straight in late 2004.

Good times ... !


78 hours!

How long did you sleep for when you eventually did?

[Getlo]

78 hours!

How long did you sleep for when you eventually did?

As I remember, it was about 8 or 10 hours ... of interrupted sleep of course. Still no more than five or so uninterrupted.

The big spells set in once every few weeks, and the average awake time is about 30 hours or so. That one from 2004 was the worst I ever had (I'd just changed to a night shift job, so maybe that was the cause).

And for the rest of the time: about five hours' sleep spread over the usual 8 or 9 hours timeframe each night.

But I'm used to it ... I guess. But I've never known anything different, so ...

[utmom2008]

Didn't Elvis always have insominia? I thought it was because he was worried about sleepwalking...:hmm:

franny
"Down At The End of Lonely Street" makes the suggestion that the insomnia started during the time that Vernon was away in jail.....:hmm:

[ksimms2]

Here's another (more recent) myth. I warn you, it's not for the faint hearted. It's from Topix (again) ... the poster Lee, who does not have the courage to show her face here. Nor does Becky, who believes she gets picked on for her opinions and that a certain part of my body doesn't stink!

And it's a big hello to ol' Maurice, who had the hide to criticise me for looking at Topix every day (which I don't); yet, he comes here almost every day to check on what we say. Will you people ever show yourselves?

And TCB World is growing in members each day too, Maurice..

Anyway, here's Lee's rather hilarious (and more than a little paranoid) myth. She is referring to us, and the people over on FECC.

"About 50% of the people on these boards who call themselves Elvis fans are not Elvis fans at all but members of the MM, people from Priscilla's family who want Elvis' reputation to stay dirty so Priscilla can continue to play the injured little bird, and people who were jealous of Elvis when he was alive and hate him. They are "inside out" Elvis fans, truly PHONY Elvis fans. I don't think they are misguided fans, or uniformed fans, or shortsighted fans, they are people who say they are fans but they KNOW that they are not Elvis fans at all. They are out and out phonies posing as Elvis fans"

Okay, raise your hands phonies! ;)

Now this is too funny! We are all members of the MM and Pris's family in here......raising my hand!! :clap::clap:

[ksimms2]

Apparently, the sleepwalking happened a few times in childhood, but there are no reports of it happening in his adult life as far as I'm aware.

As a fellow insomniac myself, I can sympathise. I can count the times I've had a full, uninterrupted 8 hour night sleep on one hand ... and I'm 40. I mean that literally too ... I've had maybe four nights of full sleep in my entire life.

Like the man himself, "I average about four or five hours a night I guess ..."

And in case you're wondering (;)), the longest I was ever awake and simply could not sleep was 78 hours. No, that's not a typo ... 78 hours straight in late 2004.

Good times ... !

Getlo I believe Revelations and EWH both talked about them having to watch Elvis to make sure he didn't sleep walk - that he almost walked out a hotel window one night.......someone correct if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in both books.

[Getlo]

Getlo I believe Revelations and EWH both talked about them having to watch Elvis to make sure he didn't sleep walk - that he almost walked out a hotel window one night.......someone correct if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in both books.

Yeah, maybe. Been ages since I read both of these.

[cameron]

Getlo I believe Revelations and EWH both talked about them having to watch Elvis to make sure he didn't sleep walk - that he almost walked out a hotel window one night.......someone correct if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in both books.

Yes, It's in both those books.

[KPM]

Apparently, the sleepwalking happened a few times in childhood, but there are no reports of it happening in his adult life as far as I'm aware.

As a fellow insomniac myself, I can sympathise. I can count the times I've had a full, uninterrupted 8 hour night sleep on one hand ... and I'm 40. I mean that literally too ... I've had maybe four nights of full sleep in my entire life.

Like the man himself, "I average about four or five hours a night I guess ..."

And in case you're wondering (;)), the longest I was ever awake and simply could not sleep was 78 hours. No, that's not a typo ... 78 hours straight in late 2004.

Good times ... !
I have also had trouble over my 52 years sleeping-mainly from worry.
I learned to worry at about 5 and it became a bad habit. So I can beat that 78 hours Getlo-I went 2 full weeks without sleep in 1991.
I had a medical problem and at that time had no medical insurance (a factory I worked for had just closed and I was out of work after 16 years) I had 3 small kids and got sick --throwing up blood etc... I was sure I had cancer. I could not sleep and nothing I tried helped. Finally I just collapsed.
Ended up at a hospital and had a nice 4 day stay. It was not cancer-it was worry and nerves. But it was the worst 2 weeks I have ever had.

[franny]

"Down At The End of Lonely Street" makes the suggestion that the insomnia started during the time that Vernon was away in jail.....:hmm:

Thank you! I haven't read that book, but I've heard of it.

franny

[john carpenter]

One myth was It wasnt Elvis but an impersonator onstage on june 26,1977.Another he slept with Gladys (a sick lie)

[Elvistcbkirch]

Okay, here's something that I've thought a lot about over the years. What are some of the things you've read or heard about Elvis that were later proven to be myths?

I've made a list below.

Now remember ... if you don't like this thread, don't post on it.

1. Elvis once shot his mother;
2. Elvis never, ever took drugs (and he needed all of what he took!);
3. Elvis' body weight was all water-retention;
4. Elvis was reading a book about Jesus when he died;
5. Elvis stayed completely faithful during his marriage, while Cilla was the one to sleep around;
6. Elvis once said that all black people were good for was to shine his shoes;


Any others?

Brilliant idea for a thread, so lets have em all and for once. Here is another myth:

That Ginger Alden was the last person to see Elvis alive. She wasnt. The last person to see him alive was aut Delta who brought him the last package of prescribed drugs upstairs at the backentrance of the bathroom.

[utmom2008]

Brilliant idea for a thread, so lets have em all and for once. Here is another myth:

That Ginger Alden was the last person to see Elvis alive. She wasnt. The last person to see him alive was aut Delta who brought him the last package of prescribed drugs upstairs at the backentrance of the bathroom.
What time did she bring them to him????

[Elvistcbkirch]

What time did she bring them to him????


I'll tjeck it up for you, Utmom. I guess i have it somewhere in my Elvis-libary, muhehe...

[cameron]

Brilliant idea for a thread, so lets have em all and for once. Here is another myth:

That Ginger Alden was the last person to see Elvis alive. She wasnt. The last person to see him alive was aut Delta who brought him the last package of prescribed drugs upstairs at the backentrance of the bathroom.

Yes, I'd like to see where you got that too.

[utmom2008]

I'll tjeck it up for you, Utmom. I guess i have it somewhere in my Elvis-libary, muhehe...
OK...thanks. I would like to read that....

[MJ27]

The "Chuck Berry" sessions from December 1973 were doing the rounds for years.

When is FTD going to release them?;)

[Suzan]

I'm an insomniac as well...48 hrs. straight, and 3 hrs. interrupted sleep, yeah good times! LOL
Great thread Getlo as always! :D

K I don't know if this was said:

That Elvis fathered lots of kids.

[Suzan]

I never heard about June but I did hear that he had a thing for a bit w/one of her sister's...I think I read that in Elvis What Happened.

[Elvistcbkirch]

Brilliant idea for a thread, so lets have em all and for once. Here is another myth:

That Ginger Alden was the last person to see Elvis alive. She wasnt. The last person to see him alive was aut Delta who brought him the last package of prescribed drugs upstairs at the backentrance of the bathroom.

Yes, I'd like to see where you got that too.

There are different versions on the time of delivering of the third package, but its reported in the book Death Of Elvis, What Heally happened, that apparently Aunt Delta delivered it about 8.30. I think I'm gonna do a timeline on august 16...

[Suzan]

[QUOTE=cameron;175337]

There are different versions on the time of delivering of the third package, but its reported in the book Death Of Elvis, What Heally happened, that apparently Aunt Delta delivered it about 8.30. I think I'm gonna do a timeline on august 16...

I like that idea....let me know if you need assistance.:D Oh hey, didn't the Stanley's also claim to have delivered couple of pkg's of sleeping aids to him?

[Getlo]

That Ginger Alden was the last person to see Elvis alive. She wasnt.

Yes, she was.

After he received his medication and some food, he retired to the bathroom to read. Ginger warned him not to fall asleep.

"OKay, I won't," he said.

Those were his last words.

[Suzan]

Yes, she was.

After he received his medication and some food, he retired to the bathroom to read. Ginger warned him not to fall asleep.

"OKay, I won't," he said.

Those were his last words.

Thank you Getlo once again...I wasn't sure of the timeline, if they delivered to him after or before he & Ginger spoke and was to lazy (and tired LOL) to look it up.:)

[cameron]

[QUOTE=Elvistcbkirch;175479]

I like that idea....let me know if you need assistance.:D Oh hey, didn't the Stanley's also claim to have delivered couple of pkg's of sleeping aids to him?


Hey, I didn't say this !! That was Elvistcbkirch!
Originally Posted by cameron

There are different versions on the time of delivering of the third package, but its reported in the book Death Of Elvis, What Heally happened, that apparently Aunt Delta delivered it about 8.30. I think I'm gonna do a timeline on august 16...

[Elvistcbkirch]

Yes, she was.

After he received his medication and some food, he retired to the bathroom to read. Ginger warned him not to fall asleep.

"OKay, I won't," he said.

Those were his last words.

Of course I cant be sure of this, but according to Death Of Elvis, What Happened, he got his third package from Aunt Delta.

[Burning_Love]

Elvis was gay (something mentioned about the jailhouse rock song)
He spoke to his twin, Jesse.

[desiree]

Elvis lives in Lapland as a Santa Claus. Now this is happy news for all of you who believe in Santa and the best myth ever! It was about a time to made a new one!:xmas: