View Full Version : Elvis and Maggie Smith-according to Marty "I was there" Lacker
This all goes against what Nancy Rooks wrote in her book about a beautiful black girl who EP dated that worked for him named Maggie. Marty calls her a "maid". But she's only been known as a "receptionist" which is not a maid by any means necessary. Sounds to me by Lacker's remarks that he didn't particularly like her for some reason. Makes you wonder about what really went on around Graceland and what really didn't.:hmm:
Here's what Marty replied to at Alt-King. For some reason I feel that he's hiding something.:hmm:
> Marty, or someone else who might know,
> What's the story on Maggie Smith?
> She allegedly was a college student hired as a maid at Graceland, but
what's
> the rest of the story on her?
> According to Guralnick, Elvis bought her and her mother a car in 1974, and
> after he gave them the car (a car that she and her mother were thinking of
> buying for themselves) he hired her as a maid. And some days after the
> hiring, according to Guralnick, he bought her another car to have on her
own
> to commute to school. She was still at Graceland in 1977.
> Is that the whole story, or is there more to it? Thanks,
> --
> T.
That's it. She was just one of those persons that Elvis felt sorry for when
he met them by chance. They didn't have much and he liked the fact that she
was very dilligent about going to school.
She basically sat in the kitchen and did her homework which is what Elvis
told her to do. There was nothing romantic going on. She was not that
attractive. When she finished her homework she did little things around the
house that the maids asked her to.
Actually we hardly knew she was there.
Marty
Getlo
12-02-2007, 02:28 AM
Why are you bashing Lacker with the "I was there" comment?
Personally, I'd rather trust his perceptions than Rooks' any day.
I would go with the Lacker version.he might be rude and crude,but he's honest and straight forward.
Jak
I would go with the Lacker version.he might be rude and crude,but he's honest and straight forward.
Jak
Marty Lacker is jealous.Heīs the only one who knew elvis(n)(n)(n)
Marty Lacker is jealous.Heīs the only one who knew elvis(n)(n)(n)
Jealous of somebody named Maggie that nobody even knows about?I doubt it.Like it or not Lacker knew Elvis very well.
Jak
Getlo
12-02-2007, 08:00 AM
Heīs the only one who knew elvis(n)(n)(n)
Lacker has never made that claim about himself, nor have any other members of the MM (despite what the naysayers and MM bashers would have you believe). You are putting words into his mouth that shouldn't be there.
Lacker was one of the best men at Elvis' wedding, remember.
Jealous of somebody named Maggie that nobody even knows about?I doubt it.Like it or not Lacker knew Elvis very well.
Jak
So many people disappeared on AEK because of marty.He told everyone who knew elvis they are liars.And one of them was Sandi Miller from the book behind the image.So did he with many more(n)(n)I saw that 9 years :!:
Getlo
12-02-2007, 08:23 AM
So many people disappeared on AEK because of marty.He told everyone who knew elvis they are liars.And one of them was Sandi Miller from the book behind the image.So did he with many more(n)(n)I saw that 9 years :!:
I'd suggest Marty knew Elvis a hell of a lot better than Sandi Miller ...
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 08:32 AM
does this subject matter really matter? I thought nancy's book was really good. I like the MM. Obviously not everyone knew what was going on in Elvis' mind - they can only speculate sometimes. I don't think this subject matter is important enough to start an argument over - do you? Where is Maggie now? Has she ever said her side?
So many people disappeared on AEK because of marty.He told everyone who knew elvis they are liars.And one of them was Sandi Miller from the book behind the image.So did he with many more(n)(n)I saw that 9 years :!:
It's possible Lacjer was merely correcting those that tended to embelish their stories.Sandi Miller had some great times and awesome memories of Elvis.She is best described as a great fan who got lucky enough to meet Elvis several times.However her relationship with Elvis was light years from Lacker's.Lacker was one of the boys.A true insider.Miller never got anywhere close to that.She was part of a group of fans that hung around.
Jak
keke23
12-02-2007, 09:39 AM
"That's it. She was just one of those persons that Elvis felt sorry for when
he met them by chance. They didn't have much and he liked the fact that she
was very dilligent about going to school.
She basically sat in the kitchen and did her homework which is what Elvis
told her to do. There was nothing romantic going on. She was not that
attractive. When she finished her homework she did little things around the
house that the maids asked her to.
Actually we hardly knew she was there."
OMG....if that aint the biggest arrogant and envious statement ever!
He's a jerk to be sayin she wasn't all that attractive and that Elvis only felt sorry for her. Maybe he wanted her and she wouldn't give him any.
And some of yall "so-called" fans support these *****s.:mad:
Nancy does say in her book that he dated Maggie, but she claims Maggie was killed in a fight as well.
Maggie aint dead. She lives here in Memphis, lol.
She just don't want the media coverage and pressures that would follow her everyday life, as some crave it, like the MM.
Plus, Elvis' nurse even said he was close to Maggie as well and befriended her.
She said Maggie would go to Graceland and do her homework and used Elvis' office, not his kitchen, lol
This is why I hate the mafia......a bunch of southern redneck racists who give Elvis a bad rep.(n)(n)(n)
"That's it. She was just one of those persons that Elvis felt sorry for when
he met them by chance. They didn't have much and he liked the fact that she
was very dilligent about going to school.
She basically sat in the kitchen and did her homework which is what Elvis
told her to do. There was nothing romantic going on. She was not that
attractive. When she finished her homework she did little things around the
house that the maids asked her to.
Actually we hardly knew she was there."
OMG....if that aint the biggest arrogant and envious statement ever!
He's a jerk to be sayin she wasn't all that attractive and that Elvis only felt sorry for her. Maybe he wanted her and she wouldn't give him any.
And some of yall "so-called" fans support these *****s.:mad:
Nancy does say in her book that he dated Maggie, but she claims Maggie was killed in a fight as well.
Maggie aint dead. She lives here in Memphis, lol.
She just don't want the media coverage and pressures that would follow her everyday life, as some crave it, like the MM.
Plus, Elvis' nurse even said he was close to Maggie as well and befriended her.
She said Maggie would go to Graceland and do her homework and used Elvis' office, not his kitchen, lol
This is why I hate the mafia......a bunch of southern redneck racists who give Elvis a bad rep.(n)(n)(n)
That was incredible.You couldnt make this stuff up.
This is why I hate the mafia......a bunch of southern redneck racists who give Elvis a bad rep.
Your right:clap::clap::clap:
presley31
12-02-2007, 10:12 AM
"That's it. She was just one of those persons that Elvis felt sorry for when
he met them by chance. They didn't have much and he liked the fact that she
was very dilligent about going to school.
She basically sat in the kitchen and did her homework which is what Elvis
told her to do. There was nothing romantic going on. She was not that
attractive. When she finished her homework she did little things around the
house that the maids asked her to.
Actually we hardly knew she was there."
OMG....if that aint the biggest arrogant and envious statement ever!
He's a jerk to be sayin she wasn't all that attractive and that Elvis only felt sorry for her. Maybe he wanted her and she wouldn't give him any.
And some of yall "so-called" fans support these *****s.:mad:
Nancy does say in her book that he dated Maggie, but she claims Maggie was killed in a fight as well.
Maggie aint dead. She lives here in Memphis, lol.
She just don't want the media coverage and pressures that would follow her everyday life, as some crave it, like the MM.
Plus, Elvis' nurse even said he was close to Maggie as well and befriended her.
She said Maggie would go to Graceland and do her homework and used Elvis' office, not his kitchen, lol
This is why I hate the mafia......a bunch of southern redneck racists who give Elvis a bad rep.(n)(n)(n)
Well said in my opinion(y)
cameron
12-02-2007, 10:46 AM
I've got to agree with meg and jen on this one.
There's several people that were in Elvis' life that a few of the MM remember but won't recognize. Then there's others that do.
Marty is just one of the negative ones. I wouldn't believe anything he says.
I'm not sure what this has to with Maggie though.
What was this post for to begin with?
The problem lies within the fact that many people cant distinguish the minor players in Elvis' life between the truly important ones.Even Nancy was a minor one.A wonderfull lady,but only a minor player in Elvis' life.
Jak
[QUOTE=jak;164465]The problem lies within the fact that many people cant distinguish the minor players in Elvis' life between the truly important ones.Even Nancy was a minor one.A wonderfull lady,but only a minor player in Elvis' life.
Jak[/QUOTE
Better a minor player who is honest as a big one who canīt tell the truth:clap::clap:
Johnny
12-02-2007, 11:06 AM
Better a minor player who is honest as a big one who canīt tell the truth:clap::clap:
So, do you know who is telling the "truth"? Were you there? People's memory differ; people remember things differently and that doesn't mean they are deliberately lying or not stating their truth - us fans have to put the pieces from various sources together ourselves and believe what we want to belive as no "truth" is the ultimate truth
[QUOTE=jak;164465]The problem lies within the fact that many people cant distinguish the minor players in Elvis' life between the truly important ones.Even Nancy was a minor one.A wonderfull lady,but only a minor player in Elvis' life.
Jak[/QUOTE
Better a minor player who is honest as a big one who canīt tell the truth:clap::clap:
You just dont like the message.Nancy said Maggie was dead.I guess her facts are wrong arent they?
[QUOTE=meg;164466]
So, do you know who is telling the "truth"? Were you there? People's memory differ; people remember things differently and that doesn't mean they are deliberately lying or not stating their truth - us fans have to put the pieces from various sources together ourselves and believe what we want to belive as no "truth" is the ultimate truth
In this case I do know who's telling the truth.If you people want to believe that Maggie was as integral part of his life you go ahead.Dont forget to leave Santa out some cookies this xmas!
Jak
cameron
12-02-2007, 11:13 AM
The problem lies within the fact that many people cant distinguish the minor players in Elvis' life between the truly important ones.Even Nancy was a minor one.A wonderfull lady,but only a minor player in Elvis' life.
Jak
I just don't get the purpose of this thread, I guess.:doh:
But, who's to say whose important or who's minor in this instance ?
I fail to see any distinction here. I'll leave that to others .
I just don't get the purpose of this thread, I guess.:doh:
But, who's to say whose important or who's minor in this instance ?
I fail to see any distinction here. I'll leave that to others .
It's very easy to distinguish who played pivotal roles in Elvis' life.Do you think Milo was as important as Red?Just an example,but it illustrates my point.
Jak
Unique Dog
12-02-2007, 11:35 AM
You actually believe Rooks` book?? Oh brother.................Tear the pages out and use it for kindling this winter!!
cameron
12-02-2007, 11:41 AM
I was never impressed by people that make themselves out to be more important than they are. I like to hear from all ; especially the ones in the "background" as such. I've found they're not so personaaly involved and make better judgments ,IMO.
To each their own. I'll stick to whats always worked for me. :)
Has anyone ever wondered why Jerry Schilling was never really included in the Memphis Mafia gatherings during and after EP's life? Take a look at his first wife and then look at who was his second? In fact they refused to go to the second wedding of a certain Sweet Inspiration. Lakeisha hit it on the head when she said the racists comment. They have proven that very completely over the years. Why do you think blacks dislike EP so much? Because of the comments made by the mafia over the years, just like the one Marty "I was there" Lacker made. Any yet fans think their word is the gospel. Did the fans forget that those same guys are the ones who sold EP out just before he died?:hmm:
You actually believe Rooks` book?? Oh brother.................Tear the pages out and use it for kindling this winter!!
Do we have another intruder on our hands? Or is this the infamous King creole who has been banned?:hmm:
It's very easy to distinguish who played pivotal roles in Elvis' life.Do you think Milo was as important as Red?Just an example,but it illustrates my point.
Jak
It's also very easy to see that the Memphis Mafia have been known as attention seekers who have created this mind controlling power over the fans for many years. Those that have chose to ignore them and their manipulation have survived their wrath and are the wise ones.:)
It's also very easy to see that the Memphis Mafia have been known as attention seekers who have created this mind controlling power over the fans for many years. Those that have chose to ignore them and their manipulation have survived their wrath and are the wise ones.:)
Mind control?That's a tad dramatic dont you think?Just to clarify.Youre saying Maggie Smith played an important role in Elvis' life?
Jak
Has anyone ever wondered why Jerry Schilling was never really included in the Memphis Mafia gatherings during and after EP's life? Take a look at his first wife and then look at who was his second? In fact they refused to go to the second wedding of a certain Sweet Inspiration. Lakeisha hit it on the head when she said the racists comment. They have proven that very completely over the years. Why do you think blacks dislike EP so much? Because of the comments made by the mafia over the years, just like the one Marty "I was there" Lacker made. Any yet fans think their word is the gospel. Did the fans forget that those same guys are the ones who sold EP out just before he died?:hmm:
You make many asumptions you cant possibly verify.It they were all redneck racists then Elvis was too.He led the pack.
Jak
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 01:12 PM
I don't seem to recall anything in particular that made EP and the MM racists. Just because he didn't show up to Jerry's weddings. So what? Did he go to all weddings of each and every member of his group? Also, what was Jerry doing at the time he got married? Was he working for Elvis or out in California working and maybe it was not convenient for him to go? Elvis and Myrna were very close - just ask her - so it has nothing to do with race as far as Elvis goes.
I don't seem to recall anything in particular that made EP and the MM racists. Just because he didn't show up to Jerry's weddings. So what? Did he go to all weddings of each and every member of his group? Also, what was Jerry doing at the time he got married? Was he working for Elvis or out in California working and maybe it was not convenient for him to go? Elvis and Myrna were very close - just ask her - so it has nothing to do with race as far as Elvis goes.
Youre right.I would never believe for one second that Elvis was a racist.I wouldnt think he would allow any to be part of his entourage either.I think he was to good a person.That I would like to believe.Although everyone is guilty of having some preconceived notions of other people.Im sure Elvis and the guys were the same way.
Jak
Stryx
12-02-2007, 01:34 PM
"That's it. She was just one of those persons that Elvis felt sorry for when
he met them by chance. They didn't have much and he liked the fact that she
was very dilligent about going to school.
She basically sat in the kitchen and did her homework which is what Elvis
told her to do. There was nothing romantic going on. She was not that
attractive. When she finished her homework she did little things around the
house that the maids asked her to.
Actually we hardly knew she was there."
OMG....if that aint the biggest arrogant and envious statement ever!
He's a jerk to be sayin she wasn't all that attractive and that Elvis only felt sorry for her. Maybe he wanted her and she wouldn't give him any.
And some of yall "so-called" fans support these *****s.:mad:
Nancy does say in her book that he dated Maggie, but she claims Maggie was killed in a fight as well.
Maggie aint dead. She lives here in Memphis, lol.
She just don't want the media coverage and pressures that would follow her everyday life, as some crave it, like the MM.
Plus, Elvis' nurse even said he was close to Maggie as well and befriended her.
She said Maggie would go to Graceland and do her homework and used Elvis' office, not his kitchen, lol
This is why I hate the mafia......a bunch of southern redneck racists who give Elvis a bad rep.(n)(n)(n)
Maggie used Elvis's office to do her homework? :lmfao:
Sure....he let her come right upstairs and into his office....why not, hell id say Elvis got her a hamburger while she was up in his office studying!
These *****s knew Elvis better than anyone else. These *****s were the people Elvis felt comfortable around and relaxed with.
If they are all *****s then you probabaly woulden't have liked Elvis very much, at least not in private.
Stryx
12-02-2007, 01:35 PM
Your right:clap::clap::clap:
Your both wrong:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Stryx
12-02-2007, 01:38 PM
Has anyone ever wondered why Jerry Schilling was never really included in the Memphis Mafia gatherings during and after EP's life? Take a look at his first wife and then look at who was his second? In fact they refused to go to the second wedding of a certain Sweet Inspiration. Lakeisha hit it on the head when she said the racists comment. They have proven that very completely over the years. Why do you think blacks dislike EP so much? Because of the comments made by the mafia over the years, just like the one Marty "I was there" Lacker made. Any yet fans think their word is the gospel. Did the fans forget that those same guys are the ones who sold EP out just before he died?:hmm:
What a load of crap.
Easy to say rubbish like that from behind a keyboard.
You make many asumptions you cant possibly verify.It they were all redneck racists then Elvis was too.He led the pack.
Jak
I;m not saying she played a big part in his life. None of us know. And just because Marty "I was there" Lacker says it doesn't make it accurate as he lied about things in Elvis-What Happened. But to give Maggie her respect-she has stated in Careless Love that he was wonderful to her and she knew he wasn't a racist even though some blacks thought he was and that he treated her more like a daughter than an employer. So that would mean he cared for her deeply and gave her daughter like attention instead of just being his maid as Lacker put it. Here's another thing-Marty wasn't around in the final year. Maggie was there the night he died. So how could he know what went on between them if anything? I rest my case.:D
Stryx
12-02-2007, 01:41 PM
I;m not saying she played a big part in his life. None of us know. And just because Marty "I was there" Lacker says it doesn't make it accurate as he lied about things in Elvis-What Happened. But to give Maggie her respect-she has stated in Careless Love that he was wonderful to her and she knew he wasn't a racist even though some blacks thought he was and that he treated her more like a daughter than an employer. So that would mean he cared for her deeply and gave her daughter like attention instead of just being his maid as Lacker put it. Here's another thing-Marty wasn't around in the final year. Maggie was there the night he died. So how could he know what went on between them if anything? I rest my case.:D
Marty lied about things in Elvis What Happened?
I sometimes wonder why I even bother replying to people who know so little and the little they do know is incorrect.
Check Elvis What Happened.....if you see Marty's name as one of the authors id be suprised.
I;m not saying she played a big part in his life. None of us know. And just because Marty "I was there" Lacker says it doesn't make it accurate as he lied about things in Elvis-What Happened. But to give Maggie her respect-she has stated in Careless Love that he was wonderful to her and she knew he wasn't a racist even though some blacks thought he was and that he treated her more like a daughter than an employer. So that would mean he cared for her deeply and gave her daughter like attention instead of just being his maid as Lacker put it. Here's another thing-Marty wasn't around in the final year. Maggie was there the night he died. So how could he know what went on between them if anything? I rest my case.:D
Lacker had nothing to do with What Happened.I just believe Lacker is being honest about her role with Elvis.
What a load of crap.
Easy to say rubbish like that from behind a keyboard.
It's fact buddy. Look it up. Or better still ask Myrna. She said it herself. They refused to support Jerry marrying outside of his race after EP died. It's a fact. Priscilla and Lisa Marie were there and Lisa was flower girl at myrna and Jerry's wedding. They got married in 1982. EP held Jerry's first wedding at Graceland in 1966 in the Meditation Garden when he married his first wife Sandy who he met on the set of Paradise Hawaiian Style. She wasn't caucasian either. She was Filipino.
Here's something a lot of fans don't know. EP allowed only a few select to take Lisa Marie out iof his site without his permission. Aong them were Linda, and Myrna. Marty wasn't one of them.:D
"If they are all *****s then you probabaly woulden't have liked Elvis very much, at least not in private."
Never,and I mean never,have truer words been spoken.
Lacker had nothing to do with What Happened.I just believe Lacker is being honest about her role with Elvis. Are you crazy? Lacker helped write the ****g book.:supriced:
"If they are all *****s then you probabaly woulden't have liked Elvis very much, at least not in private."
Never,and I mean never,have truer words been spoken.
Did you know him? No you didn't. Neither did I or anyone else here. But my dad did meet him and at Graceland and talked to him and said he was a true gentleman.
Stryx
12-02-2007, 01:59 PM
Are you crazy? Lacker helped write the ****g book.:supriced:
You are wrong.
And there is no need to be so hostile when people pull you up on being wrong.
Stryx
12-02-2007, 02:00 PM
Did you know him? No you didn't. Neither did I or anyone else here. But my dad did meet him and at Graceland and talked to him and said he was a true gentleman.
Thats nice.
Elvis was very polite in public. Most people are. Doesen't mean that the public persona is carried into ones home and privae life though.
It's fact buddy. Look it up. Or better still ask Myrna. She said it herself. They refused to support Jerry marrying outside of his race after EP died. It's a fact. Priscilla and Lisa Marie were there and Lisa was flower girl at myrna and Jerry's wedding. They got married in 1982. EP held Jerry's first wedding at Graceland in 1966 in the Meditation Garden when he married his first wife Sandy who he met on the set of Paradise Hawaiian Style. She wasn't caucasian either. She was Filipino.
Here's something a lot of fans don't know. EP allowed only a few select to take Lisa Marie out iof his site without his permission. Aong them were Linda, and Myrna. Marty wasn't one of them.:D
Neither was Charlie.Not a big deal really.
Did you know him? No you didn't. Neither did I or anyone else here. But my dad did meet him and at Graceland and talked to him and said he was a true gentleman.
My wife has your dad beat.She met him several times.Yes he was a true gentleman.Even when she was caught trespassing at Graceland.Im not sure what your daddy or my wife's encounters have to do with the subject though.The point is that birds of a feather flock together.Elvis and some of the boys had essentially the same background.I think you didnt know him philosophy applies to the MM also.Lacker didnt help write What Happened by the way.
Jak
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:11 PM
Marty Lacker is jealous.Heīs the only one who knew elvis(n)(n)(n)
HUH??????????? (n)(n)(n)
presley31
12-02-2007, 02:13 PM
you people need to stop picking on people just cause they don't agree,
I'll put it this way. The sooner Marty and Lamar croak the sooner the real EP can rest in peace and be remembered for his music and legacy and not for his bad habits and drug abuse and feeling sorry for his maids who weren't nobodys to him.
you people need to stop picking on people just cause they don't agree,
That's impossible around here. Even with moderators incharge.:unsure:
I don't recall ever reading about a Maggie. But she obviously(from all the posts I read) was somehow associated with Elvis-what that association was in truth looks like its in the "never know for sure" column. A lot of Elvis's life seems to end up in the "never know for sure" column. Once again its who do you believe, who might lie, who might exaggerate...etc.
Then if you think someone lies or exaggerates you have to ask-why and for what purpose. No matter how close the cook, Lacker, or any of the others were-they can't each know it all.
Unless they somehow saw thru Elvis's eyes they can't understand it all- as he did either.
presley31
12-02-2007, 02:21 PM
I don't recall ever reading about a Maggie. But she obviously(from all the posts I read) was somehow associated with Elvis-what that association was in truth looks like its in the "never know for sure" column. A lot of Elvis's life seems to end up in the "never know for sure" column. Once again its who do you believe, who might lie, who might exaggerate...etc.
Then if you think someone lies or exaggerates you have to ask-why and for what purpose. No matter how close the cook, Lacker, or any of the others were-they can't each know it all.
Unless they somehow saw thru Elvis's eyes they can't understand it all- as he did either.
well said KPM(y)(y)
I'll put it this way. The sooner Marty and Lamar croak the sooner the real EP can rest in peace and be remembered for his music and legacy and not for his bad habits and drug abuse and feeling sorry for his maids who weren't nobodys to him.
Your mentality is put on display with that post.If Elvis didnt have those bad habits we couldnt talk about them could we?
Diane
12-02-2007, 02:22 PM
Gee you know, I don't really care whether or not Elvis had a fling with Maggie - that goes under the heading "private" for me and doesn't change a thing about how I personally feel about him.
Diane
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:22 PM
The problem lies within the fact that many people cant distinguish the minor players in Elvis' life between the truly important ones.Even Nancy was a minor one.A wonderfull lady,but only a minor player in Elvis' life.
Jak
True Jak! (y) Doesn't sound like Nancy is too big on the truth herself if she claims this black girl was killed in a fight, when she is still alive. ;);) I knew that Lakeisha would get around to bringing "race" into the topic, she always does it seems like.;) Her LMBAO signature is really getting old, I don't understand why that is allowed. If anyone else on here makes a "color" remark, the post is taken down. :hmm: :hmm:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:24 PM
That was incredible.You couldnt make this stuff up.
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
presley31
12-02-2007, 02:25 PM
Gee you know, I don't really care whether or not Elvis had a fling with Maggie - that goes under the heading "private" for me and doesn't change a thing about how I personally feel about him.
Diane
I agree diane, l don't see the big deal:hmm:
I don't recall ever reading about a Maggie. But she obviously(from all the posts I read) was somehow associated with Elvis-what that association was in truth looks like its in the "never know for sure" column. A lot of Elvis's life seems to end up in the "never know for sure" column. Once again its who do you believe, who might lie, who might exaggerate...etc.
Then if you think someone lies or exaggerates you have to ask-why and for what purpose. No matter how close the cook, Lacker, or any of the others were-they can't each know it all.
Unless they somehow saw thru Elvis's eyes they can't understand it all- as he did either.
Very well said.(y)
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:26 PM
[QUOTE=meg;164466]
You just dont like the message.Nancy said Maggie was dead.I guess her facts are wrong arent they?
Maybe Maggie ran away with Bob Sillerman!!! :lmfao::lmfao:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:28 PM
I just don't get the purpose of this thread, I guess.:doh:
But, who's to say whose important or who's minor in this instance ?
I fail to see any distinction here. I'll leave that to others .
I see a distinction between the maid's daughter, and a guy who was best man at the wedding. I see a big distinction.........;)
True Jak! (y) Doesn't sound like Nancy is too big on the truth herself if she claims this black girl was killed in a fight, when she is still alive. ;);) I knew that Lakeisha would get around to bringing "race" into the topic, she always does it seems like.;) Her LMBAO signature is really getting old, I don't understand why that is allowed. If anyone else on here makes a "color" remark, the post is taken down. :hmm: :hmm:
From the way you pick at Lakeisha and then turn around and make a statement like this, it all goes to show your true colors.
I see a distinction between the maid's daughter, and a guy who was best man at the wedding. I see a big distiction.........;)
OK, who's the maid's daughter? Where did this come from?:please:
Looks like the thread is close to spiraling out of control.I must admit I have participated in this.No reason for it to get so heated.The fact is that Maggie Smith had an extremely minor role in Elvis' life.I do mean minor.That point cant be argued.Anybody that does argue that point is just pushing their own agenda.We didnt need Lacker to confirm this for us.
Jak
presley31
12-02-2007, 02:32 PM
The book that Nancy wrote is a well written book and loved every page of it. Least it put elvis in a good light
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:33 PM
You make many asumptions you cant possibly verify.It they were all redneck racists then Elvis was too.He led the pack.
Jak
(y)(y) I was about to say the same thing Jak! And....if Elvis was indeed a racist, then why does "Lakeisha" seem to like him so much?? :hmm::hmm: I guess Elvis was an open-minded liberal running around with a bunch of southern rednecks?? :hmm: :lmfao:
Looks like the thread is close to spiraling out of control.I must admit I have participated in this.No reason for it to get so heated.The fact is that Maggie Smith had an extremely minor role in Elvis' life.I do mean minor.That point cant be argued.Anybody that does argue that point is just pushing their own agenda.We didnt need Lacker to confirm this for us.
Jak
Please do tell us all of how you are an expert on EP's private life and who he was with or wasn't? Do you know the hours that he made love to his women? What time he ate his meals? When he washed between his toes? When he cut his toe nails? Can you clarify all of that? :hmm:
Stryx
12-02-2007, 02:35 PM
I'll put it this way. The sooner Marty and Lamar croak the sooner the real EP can rest in peace and be remembered for his music and legacy and not for his bad habits and drug abuse and feeling sorry for his maids who weren't nobodys to him.
You need help.
You need help.
I tell it like it is.:D
presley31
12-02-2007, 02:40 PM
I tell it like it is.:D
just leave it, you'll get nowhere.
Diane
12-02-2007, 02:42 PM
I loved Nancy's book too but I can easily imagine a little bunch of maids and cooks gossiping in the kitchen and wondering if there was something going on between Maggie and Elvis. Obviously Nancy felt that there was.
Diane
Stryx
12-02-2007, 02:44 PM
I tell it like it is.:D
Wishing death on people is telling it like it is?:doh:
Don't forget - Marty had nothing to do with EWH.
I can give you a list of Elvis books to read...then you may have some substance to aruge with.
just leave it, you'll get nowhere.
You are absolutely correct. I think some come on here just to unleash bitterness towards society by attacking the good hearted people and they get their kicks out of it. But I'm not going to repsond to their childish ways of debating things any longer. I said my peace and that's how I feel. :D
Stryx
12-02-2007, 02:46 PM
You are absolutely correct. I think some come on here just to unleash bitterness towards society by attacking the good hearted people and they get their kicks out of it. But I'm not going to repsond to their childish ways of debating things any longer. I said my peace and that's how I feel. :D
:lmfao:
Man you wish someones death and then other people here come on to unleash bitterness
:lmfao:
I loved Nancy's book too but I can easily imagine a little bunch of maids and cooks gossiping in the kitchen and wondering if there was something going on between Maggie and Elvis. Obviously Nancy felt that there was.
Diane
Finally someone with a logical explanation to all of this.(y) I also want to say that I think the Maggie being dead thing was a misinterpretation by the book writer and was probably just a misprint.
Please do tell us all of how you are an expert on EP's private life and who he was with or wasn't? Do you know the hours that he made love to his women? What time he ate his meals? When he washed between his toes? When he cut his toe nails? Can you clarify all of that? :hmm:
Why dont you read my post again.You dont seem to understand it.Elvis may have slept with Maggie.Doesnt make her special.Elvis slept with lots of women.The women he had casual flings with are all of minor importance.Certainly they were in Elvis' eyes.
Jak
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:51 PM
I don't seem to recall anything in particular that made EP and the MM racists. Just because he didn't show up to Jerry's weddings. So what? Did he go to all weddings of each and every member of his group? Also, what was Jerry doing at the time he got married? Was he working for Elvis or out in California working and maybe it was not convenient for him to go? Elvis and Myrna were very close - just ask her - so it has nothing to do with race as far as Elvis goes.
Elvis gave his blessing to Jerry as far as Myrna Smith was concerned. The Sweet Inspirations became the first group signed to a new company called Jerry Schilling Management. Jerry actually married Myrna in 1980, so I think it would have been a little difficult for Elvis to attend the wedding.;);)
:lmfao:
Man you wish someones death and then other people here come on to unleash bitterness
:lmfao:
Did I say I wish death? No I didn't. I simply said that when they are gone the sooner EP's legacy can rest in peace nd their lies about him can vanish along with their rotten bodies. That's nothing compared to what Lisa herself said on national tv about them. And from the way you have been so on the offense for them on this thread, I take it you are one of those in the "I Love The Memphis Mafia" fan club.
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 02:55 PM
Wow! Not surprising at all. Another thread from Jay that has so far turned into a 4 page slugfest. Why is this stuff allowed to go on? Lakeisha chimes in as usual with her race card playing ways. I think calling people rednecks is pretty racist too.
There are three certainties in life:
Death
Taxes
Jay and Lakeisha posting something about Graceland changes or race
Elvis gave his blessing to Jerry as far as Myrna Smith was concerned. The Sweet Inspirations became the first group signed to a new company called Jerry Schilling Management. Jerry actually married Myrna in 1980, so I think it would have been a little difficult for Elvis to attend the wedding.;);)
Wrong. Jerry married Myrna in 1982 and they divorces in 1987. I think you need to re-read what I wrote. I said the Memphis Mafia refused to go. Not EP.
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Has anyone ever wondered why Jerry Schilling was never really included in the Memphis Mafia gatherings during and after EP's life? Take a look at his first wife and then look at who was his second? In fact they refused to go to the second wedding of a certain Sweet Inspiration. Lakeisha hit it on the head when she said the racists comment. They have proven that very completely over the years. Why do you think blacks dislike EP so much? Because of the comments made by the mafia over the years, just like the one Marty "I was there" Lacker made. Any yet fans think their word is the gospel. Did the fans forget that those same guys are the ones who sold EP out just before he died?:hmm:
The wedding to Myrna was in 1980, held in Hawaii and attended by family members. You are going to have to dig a little deeper to verify your racist remarks.;) Again...why your attraction to Elvis if he was such a hillbilly redneck racist??????????
Why dont you read my post again.You dont seem to understand it.Elvis may have slept with Maggie.Doesnt make her special.Elvis slept with lots of women.The women he had casual flings with are all of minor importance.Certainly they were in Elvis' eyes.
Jak
Now you're back-peddling. Good one.
Stryx
12-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Did I say I wish death? No I didn't. I simply said that when they are gone the sooner EP's legacy can rest in peace nd their lies about him can vanish along with their rotten bodies. That's nothing compared to what Lisa herself said on national tv about them. And from the way you have been so on the offense for them on this thread, I take it you are one of those in the "I Love The Memphis Mafia" fan club.
You know what maybe I am in that fan club. Funny thing is...Elvis is the one who created the group and im an Elvis fan.
Your ignorance regarding Elvis is quite profound.
And how good does it make you feel when you say things like thier rotten bodies? Your a sick sick person.
Gonna show us how Marty was involved in EWH? Or are you just going to ignore that seeing as you are wrong and keep going until you get something right?
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:00 PM
It's fact buddy. Look it up. Or better still ask Myrna. She said it herself. They refused to support Jerry marrying outside of his race after EP died. It's a fact. Priscilla and Lisa Marie were there and Lisa was flower girl at myrna and Jerry's wedding. They got married in 1982. EP held Jerry's first wedding at Graceland in 1966 in the Meditation Garden when he married his first wife Sandy who he met on the set of Paradise Hawaiian Style. She wasn't caucasian either. She was Filipino.
Here's something a lot of fans don't know. EP allowed only a few select to take Lisa Marie out iof his site without his permission. Aong them were Linda, and Myrna. Marty wasn't one of them.:D
Funny....I was JUST reading about Jerry and Myrna's wedding in Jerry's new book. :hmm: Carl Wilson was best man.....NO mention of Cilla or Lisa even being there. :hmm::hmm::hmm:
The wedding to Myrna was in 1980, held in Hawaii and attended by family members. You are going to have to dig a little deeper to verify your racist remarks.;) Again...why your attraction to Elvis if he was such a hillbilly redneck racist??????????
IT WAS 1982-1987.:mad: QUIT ARGUING WITH ME. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME THEN WRITE JERRY OR MYRNA AND ASK THEM. DANG! SOME OF YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR AN ARGUMENT AND YOU GET IT EACH TIME. NO WONDER THIS WEBSITE IS GETTING SUCH A BAD REPUTATION OVER AT TOPIX.:doh:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:06 PM
From the way you pick at Lakeisha and then turn around and make a statement like this, it all goes to show your true colors.
Hey buddy.....Lakeisha made the FIRST racial remark. Note that! :lol::lol: I called her hand(or your hand???) on it. :D:D
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:07 PM
IT WAS 1982-1987.:mad: QUIT ARGUING WITH ME. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME THEN WRITE JERRY OR MYRNA AND ASK THEM. DANG! SOME OF YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR AN ARGUMENT AND YOU GET IT EACH TIME. NO WONDER THIS WEBSITE IS GETTING SUCH A BAD REPUTATION OVER AT TOPIX.:doh:
I am looking at the paragraph in Jerry's book and he says "MYRNA AND I WERE MARRIED IN 1980". :lol::lol::lol:;) BTW.....page 330
Hey buddy.....Lakeisha made the FIRST racial remark. Note that! :lol::lol: I called her hand(or your hand???) on it. :D:D
Exactly what did she say that was so 'racists"? I didn't see where she called you or anyone here a white cracker.:lmfao:
I am looking at the paragraph in Jerry's book and he says "MYRNA AND I WERE MARRIED IN 1980". :lol::lol::lol:;) BTW.....page 330
I love to prove some people wrong.
EIN - You were closer to Elvis than most since you were married to Elvis' friend Jerry Schilling for some time.
MS - In fact I was married to Jerry from 1982 - 1987 and we're still good friends. Jerry and I started dating in 1973 and so I got a chance to spend more time with Elvis than others. I flew on Elvis' plane, spent time at Graceland and usually stayed on the same floor as Elvis in the hotels when were on tour. In California I would stay at Elvis' house on Monovale.
Now take the napkin and wipe the egg off of your face and tuck your tail between your legs and walk away.:D:D:D:D
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 03:15 PM
I don't see how these posts keep going. Jay, you started this whole racist thing and now that others have come in to defend it - you attack everyone. I'm in the "I Love The MM Group" too I guess - because without them - we wouldn't know so much about Elvis' life and for that I'm grateful. I take the good with the bad as far as Elvis is concerned. And Marty helped write, "Revelations From The MM" NOT EWH. Just to clarify. I also ready Jerry Schilling's book and still have it - but cant recall the date he married Myrna, but since Rosanne has listed the page # I can go look if you'd like me to?
Don't forget YOU started this thread and turned it racist from your very first post.
presley31
12-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Enough is enough all of you!!!!!!!!
This thread is going nowhere.
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 03:18 PM
Just looked at page 330 in jerry's book and he does say they got married in 1980 - so either it was a typo - or one of them got their dates wrong - which is not uncommon for folks once they divorce to remember dates incorrectly.
So back off now please.
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:20 PM
I love to prove some people wrong.
EIN - You were closer to Elvis than most since you were married to Elvis' friend Jerry Schilling for some time.
MS - In fact I was married to Jerry from 1982 - 1987 and we're still good friends. Jerry and I started dating in 1973 and so I got a chance to spend more time with Elvis than others. I flew on Elvis' plane, spent time at Graceland and usually stayed on the same floor as Elvis in the hotels when were on tour. In California I would stay at Elvis' house on Monovale.
Now take the napkin and wipe the egg off of your face and tuck your tail between your legs and walk away.:D:D:D:D
You need to send that on to Jerry Schilling....he says Myrna and I were married in 1980.
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Just looked at page 330 in jerry's book and he does say they got married in 1980 - so either it was a typo - or one of them got their dates wrong - which is not uncommon for folks once they divorce to remember dates incorrectly.
So back off now please.
Thanks Kelly! Cover your ears....EP75 wants to scream at those of us that disagree! :hmm::hmm:
I don't see how these posts keep going. Jay, you started this whole racist thing and now that others have come in to defend it - you attack everyone. I'm in the "I Love The MM Group" too I guess - because without them - we wouldn't know so much about Elvis' life and for that I'm grateful. I take the good with the bad as far as Elvis is concerned. And Marty helped write, "Revelations From The MM" NOT EWH. Just to clarify. I also ready Jerry Schilling's book and still have it - but cant recall the date he married Myrna, but since Rosanne has listed the page # I can go look if you'd like me to?
Don't forget YOU started this thread and turned it racist from your very first post.
Excuse me. I never said a thing about race in my original post. And I never used a race card. Lakeisha was the one to call them racists. Not me. However I will back step and say that it was Revelations, not What Happened the Lacker participated in. But at the same time the nonsense they all wrote in that book was evident that they had bitterness towards EP. They called him a racist in that book too when they said he refused to meet with James Brown.
And I just posted Myrna;s exact words of when they married and still you want to trust a non-source? That just baffles me.(n)
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:22 PM
I don't see how these posts keep going. Jay, you started this whole racist thing and now that others have come in to defend it - you attack everyone. I'm in the "I Love The MM Group" too I guess - because without them - we wouldn't know so much about Elvis' life and for that I'm grateful. I take the good with the bad as far as Elvis is concerned. And Marty helped write, "Revelations From The MM" NOT EWH. Just to clarify. I also ready Jerry Schilling's book and still have it - but cant recall the date he married Myrna, but since Rosanne has listed the page # I can go look if you'd like me to?
Don't forget YOU started this thread and turned it racist from your very first post.
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)......Well said!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to send that on to Jerry Schilling....he says Myrna and I were married in 1980.
Have you never heard of misprinyts?:supriced: Books always have misprints when quoting someone. Obviosuly was the case with Nancy's. Or maybe you just can't accept being proven wrong?:hmm::hmm::hmm:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:24 PM
And I just posted Myrna;s exact words of when they married and still you want to trust a non-source? That just baffles me.(n)
:lol::lol::lol: Jerry Schilling is a "non-source"???? Oh yeh, he was only the groom. :lol::lol:
Stryx
12-02-2007, 03:25 PM
Excuse me. I never said a thing about race in my original post. And I never used a race card. Lakeisha was the one to call them racists. Not me. However I will back step and say that it was Revelations, not What Happened the Lacker participated in. But at the same time the nonsense they all wrote in that book was evident that they had bitterness towards EP. They called him a racist in that book too when they said he refused to meet with James Brown.
And I just posted Myrna;s exact words of when they married and still you want to trust a non-source? That just baffles me.(n)
A non-source? If it's in Jerry's book then it is a source. I don't know when they married 80 or 82, and I don't really care.
Finally you acknowledge that you were wrong about Marty's involvement in EWH.
:lol::lol::lol: Jerry Schilling is a "non-source"???? Oh yeh, he was only the groom. :lol::lol:
I was referring to you.:cursing:
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 03:27 PM
Jay, you lose....as always.:D
Jay, you lose....as always.:D
I posted my facts. But nobody else can accept that. You can now leave trouble maker.:angry:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:29 PM
A non-source? If it's in Jerry's book then it is a source. I don't know when they married 80 or 82, and I don't really care.
Finally you acknowledge that you were wrong about Marty's involvement in EWH.
Yes Stryx...it's on page 330 of Schilling's book. But remember.......Jerry Schilling is a "non-source"...:lmfao::lmfao:
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 03:32 PM
Have you never heard of misprinyts?:supriced: Books always have misprints when quoting someone. Obviosuly was the case with Nancy's. Or maybe you just can't accept being proven wrong?:hmm::hmm::hmm:
Jay, like you said, it could be a misprint. So why keep on? We showed you Jerry said 1980 in his book - you say Myrna said 1983 (I think?) so one of them is forgetting exactly which date - but really - I'm not interested in when they got married.......but yes misprints happen and people tend to forget once they've been divorced for years.
Okay?
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 03:38 PM
I posted my facts. But nobody else can accept that. You can now leave trouble maker.:angry:
You have no facts, just a supreme lack of knowledge.
It doesn't matter. I posted a direct quote from Myrna her self and still you guys want to ignore it. just as you want to ignore the problems in Memphis and the Graceland redevelopment. Just as you want to ignore the facts and accept opinions. Just as you want to ignore what a major impact Bob Sillerman has had in such a short time already on EP's image in the main stream. That is all typical of the EP world. It's basically become normal. I now see why most support the Mafia. You act and think just like them. If you know what I mean by that. If you don't then take a look at your responses.:(
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:41 PM
OK everybody.......EP75 says that Jerry Schilling is wrong on the date that he married Myrna Smith. Jerry says they were married in 1980, but EP75 says Jerry is wrong. Ksimms and I both saw it on page 330, but we are wrong. :lmfao::lmfao: You are right Rocknroll.....he loses again.;);) And, for some reason...he has called me a "blind *****". :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: Not blind at all...I SEE the 1980 very clearly.:D;);)
I posted my facts. But nobody else can accept that. You can now leave trouble maker.:angry:
Would you have started this thread if Maggie Smith was white?Why does her color matter?
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Would you have started this thread if Maggie Smith was white?Why does her color matter?
BINGO!!!!!
OK everybody.......EP75 says that Jerry Schilling is wrong on the date that he married Myrna Smith. Jerry says they were married in 1980, but EP75 says Jerry is wrong. Ksimms and I both saw it on page 330, but we are wrong. :lmfao::lmfao: You are right Rocknroll.....he loses again.;);) And, for some reason...he has called me a "blind *****". :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: Not blind at all...I SEE the 1980 very clearly.:D;);)
I give up. This isn't a pleasant place anymore. No matter what I say or post it gets turned into garbage and personal attacks at me and whoever supports or agrees with me and with Lakeisha and the moderators allow it. This forum is no better than the old 30 #1 Hits forum. This isn't even a fan forum anymore. It's nothing but a gang of separation. Just as FECC is. In fact the whole EP world is becoming 1 big gang. Either you fit in or you don't.
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 03:55 PM
I give up. This isn't a pleasant place anymore. No matter what I say or post it gets turned into garbage and personal attacks at me and whoever supports or agrees with me and with Lakeisha and the moderators allow it. This forum is no better than the old 30 #1 Hits forum. This isn't even a fan forum anymore. It's nothing but a gang of separation. Just as FECC is. In fact the whole EP world is becoming 1 big gang. Either you fit in or you don't.
You have problems at every place you go.
presley31
12-02-2007, 03:56 PM
You have problems at every place you go.
you cause problems too:angry:
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 04:00 PM
Would you have started this thread if Maggie Smith was white?Why does her color matter?
EXACTLY.
This thread was only started as another lame attempt by Jay to prove to the entire Elvis world that he dated black women. Who cares? This has been an obsession of his for years, and it never turns out pleasantly.
Jay and Lakeisha even went to the ends of the earth to prove Myrna had an intimate relationship with Elvis EVEN AFTER SHE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT THEY HAD NOT. When they are called out on these subjects, their only out is to resort to calling people racist and that we are "showing our true colors".
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 04:00 PM
you cause problems too:angry:
Name one. Please.
presley31
12-02-2007, 04:04 PM
Name one. Please.
Quote:
Originally Posted by presley31
well said
Ridiculous....as usual.
Thats not looking for a fight, :doh::doh:
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by presley31
well said
Ridiculous....as usual.
Thats not looking for a fight, :doh::doh:
I said name one, not make some lame attempt. I was responding to what Lakeisha said, You posted "well said", I posted "ridiculous". Try again.
presley31
12-02-2007, 04:15 PM
I said name one, not make some lame attempt. I was responding to what Lakeisha said, You posted "well said", I posted "ridiculous". Try again.
no use in explaining anything to you.
Diane
12-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Well I will give my little two cents worth here. Jerry in his own book says he and Myrna were married in 1980 right? In the interview with Myrna it's a case of "he says she said".....guess which one I tend to believe?:D
Diane
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 04:29 PM
Well I will give my little two cents worth here. Jerry in his own book says he and Myrna were married in 1980 right? In the interview with Myrna it's a case of "he says she said".....guess which one I tend to believe?:D
Diane
The woman because men never remember their anniversary's or their wives birthdays correctly! ;)
EP75 was banned anyway...again.
Unique Dog
12-02-2007, 04:32 PM
Has anyone ever wondered why Jerry Schilling was never really included in the Memphis Mafia gatherings during and after EP's life? Take a look at his first wife and then look at who was his second? In fact they refused to go to the second wedding of a certain Sweet Inspiration. Lakeisha hit it on the head when she said the racists comment. They have proven that very completely over the years. Why do you think blacks dislike EP so much? Because of the comments made by the mafia over the years, just like the one Marty "I was there" Lacker made. Any yet fans think their word is the gospel. Did the fans forget that those same guys are the ones who sold EP out just before he died?:hmm:
Jerry attended any MM gatherings while Elvis was alive, as they all did. The group scattered after his death. They all have their little clicks. To accuse any of them of being racist against Jerry is ludicrious.
"sold him out" just before he died? we have a very different opinion on this matter....
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 04:34 PM
The woman because men never remember their anniversary's or their wives birthdays correctly! ;)
EP75 was banned anyway...again.
Yes...he was, and for a reason. I hope others on this thread realize that what he was doing was wrong, and we were NOT the ones instigating trouble and stirring up trouble :hmm::hmm:
Unique Dog
12-02-2007, 04:35 PM
Do we have another intruder on our hands? Or is this the infamous King creole who has been banned?:hmm:
No, I am not the infamous King Creole.
presley31
12-02-2007, 04:35 PM
The woman because men never remember their anniversary's or their wives birthdays correctly! ;)
EP75 was banned anyway...again.
Other people shoud be banned too :angry::angry:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 04:36 PM
EXACTLY.
This thread was only started as another lame attempt by Jay to prove to the entire Elvis world that he dated black women. Who cares? This has been an obsession of his for years, and it never turns out pleasantly.
Jay and Lakeisha even went to the ends of the earth to prove Myrna had an intimate relationship with Elvis EVEN AFTER SHE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT THEY HAD NOT. When they are called out on these subjects, their only out is to resort to calling people racist and that we are "showing our true colors".
That truly was "WELL SAID." (y)(y)
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 04:39 PM
Other people shoud be banned too :angry::angry:
who else Jen? he privately sent threatening messages to others over this. He was very nasty and instigating and when others disagreed with him, he got worse. We tried telling him what was in jerry's book - but he pretty much called us liars. Is that right for him to do?
Disagreeing is one thing -but being nasty, and then threatening is totally another. (sorry we disagree on this point Jen...nothing personal you know, right?)
rocknroll
12-02-2007, 04:43 PM
no use in explaining anything to you.
Very true. You are hard to comprehend, but I have no issues with you either way.
Diane
12-02-2007, 04:44 PM
Ordinarily Kelly I would agree with you on Jerry being wrong about his wedding date (the man thing :D) but not in this case because it takes a while to write a book and I'm sure he talked about it with others and if he hadn't caught his own mistake, someone else may have pointed it out to him. I could still be wrong lol.
Diane
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 04:44 PM
who else Jen? he privately sent threatening messages to others over this. He was very nasty and instigating and when others disagreed with him, he got worse. We tried telling him what was in jerry's book - but he pretty much called us liars. Is that right for him to do?
Disagreeing is one thing -but being nasty, and then threatening is totally another. (sorry we disagree on this point Jen...nothing personal you know, right?)
Thank you Kelly!! (y) (y) I really appreciate your words of wisdom! Others need to look a little more closely before forming such judgements.;););)
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Ordinarily Kelly I would agree with you on Jerry being wrong about his wedding date (the man thing :D) but not in this case because it takes a while to write a book and I'm sure he talked about it with others and if he hadn't caught his own mistake, someone else may have pointed it out to him. I could still be wrong lol.
Diane
yes Diane, I was just making a joke.....I really don't know which is correct - is there a marriage certificate one can look up? Im sure alot of research was done on Jerry's book - so you'd think it was correct.
presley31
12-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Thank you Kelly!! (y) (y) I really appreciate your words of wisdom! Others need to look a little more closely before forming such judgements.;););)
think people should take there own jugements and treat people with respect.
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Ordinarily Kelly I would agree with you on Jerry being wrong about his wedding date (the man thing :D) but not in this case because it takes a while to write a book and I'm sure he talked about it with others and if he hadn't caught his own mistake, someone else may have pointed it out to him. I could still be wrong lol.
Diane
I got the idea also Diane that this book was very professionally done. I'm pretty sure also that the publisher sent him out on some sort of a book tour, so that makes me think they would have caught something like that if it were not true.
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 04:48 PM
think people should take there own jugements and treat people with respect.
If you are directing that comment at me.........I suggest you go back and READ from start to finish what was said. The moderators obviously did...:hmm:
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 04:49 PM
think people should take there own jugements and treat people with respect.
sometimes Jen, when the others are being nasty and hateful and calling you an outright liar and/or racist - you have to take up for yourself. I always try and watch what I say - but sometimes the others involved in that particular thread make it hard to do so. But I completely agree bickering needs to stop.
can I ask, what is "bricking"? Is that a canadian term or something? Not sure I've ever heard that before - I hear other terms on here from other countries that are new to me as well.
presley31
12-02-2007, 04:56 PM
sometimes Jen, when the others are being nasty and hateful and calling you an outright liar and/or racist - you have to take up for yourself. I always try and watch what I say - but sometimes the others involved in that particular thread make it hard to do so. But I completely agree bickering needs to stop.
can I ask, what is "bricking"? Is that a canadian term or something? Not sure I've ever heard that before - I hear other terms on here from other countries that are new to me as well.
kelly its arguments that turn sour and to be quite frank its so drepressing to see people ganging on people. This stuff needs to stop, everyone has there own opinions and thoughts, There is no need in being rude with smiles or remarks. I just hope that what happens here gets sorted cause l'am ready to leave here cause this isn't a funplace anymore.
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 04:58 PM
kelly its arguments that turn sour and to be quite frank its so drepressing to see people ganging on people. This stuff needs to stop, everyone has there own opinions and thoughts, There is no need in being rude with smiles or remarks. I just hope that what happens here gets sorted cause l'am ready to leave here cause this isn't a funplace anymore.
I'm sorry Jen....not sure who hurt your feelings....people say things in the heat of the moment I guess......:hug:
Cheer up! i got your Christmas card all made out and ready to mail!!! :clap:
presley31
12-02-2007, 05:10 PM
I'm sorry Jen....not sure who hurt your feelings....people say things in the heat of the moment I guess......:hug:
Cheer up! i got your Christmas card all made out and ready to mail!!! :clap:
Kelly you and me may not always see eye on things but we do show respect in how we respond to eachtogther, l will always call you a friend, and l'am sorry for coming down on you too:hug:
cameron
12-02-2007, 05:10 PM
Yes...he was, and for a reason. I hope others on this thread realize that what he was doing was wrong, and we were NOT the ones instigating trouble and stirring up trouble :hmm::hmm:
IMO, everyone that responded was wrong. {including myself}
People say they don't want these threads to go on, yet they keep posting instead of letting them slide away. Does that make sense ? :doh:
There cannot be trouble if no one answers .
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 05:12 PM
IMO, everyone that responded was wrong. {including myself}
People say they don't want these threads to go on, yet they keep posting instead of letting them slide away. Does that make sense ? :doh:
There cannot be trouble if no one answers .
Yep, you are right. In our quest for proving our points - we keep on and on and it gets worse and worse. So you are right. No matter who is "right" or "wrong" at some point, we need to pull back before it gets too ugly.
keke23
12-02-2007, 05:18 PM
No comment to any of this bs. <shakes head in total disbelief>
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 05:23 PM
No comment to any of this bs. <shakes head in total disbelief>
How'd we know you'd pop your head in? In your "no comment to any of this" you did just comment. That's exactly what we mean. We are saying that it just gets out of hand, by most, including your friend (or you) or whatever Jay. He got way out of hand - calling us liars and what not. So please don't come in and try and start more okay? We are just now calming down from earlier.......thanks.
keke23
12-02-2007, 05:31 PM
How'd we know you'd pop your head in? In your "no comment to any of this" you did just comment. That's exactly what we mean. We are saying that it just gets out of hand, by most, including your friend (or you) or whatever Jay. He got way out of hand - calling us liars and what not. So please don't come in and try and start more okay? We are just now calming down from earlier.......thanks.
Oh, but it was okay for yall to call him a liar, even after I saw he posted what myrna said, and yall still called him a liar.
He aint the problem, yall are.
I saw the bs goin on and yall were doin most of it.
Yall were still postin way after he got banned.
But whatever......it is what it is. <rolls eyes>
presley31
12-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Oh, but it was okay for yall to call him a liar, even after I saw he posted what myrna said, and yall still called him a liar.
He aint the problem, yall are.
I saw the bs goin on and yall were doin most of it.
Yall were still postin way after he got banned.
But whatever......it is what it is. <rolls eyes>
Can we just let this go, this thread has been heated all day and everyone had there share at things, so please can we move on.
Now you're back-peddling. Good one.
Please tell me how?
franny
12-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Please tell me how?
EP75 is banned Jak...
franny
EP75 is banned Jak...
franny
I just noticed that.It appears things were really rolling while I was away.I just couldnt stay away from watching football.Not only did Cleveland lose which helps out my beloved Steelers.I come back to this thread and EP75 is banned.Life is good my friends.
presley31
12-02-2007, 05:59 PM
I just noticed that.It appears things were really rolling while I was away.I just couldnt stay away from watching football.Not only did Cleveland lose which helps out my beloved Steelers.I come back to this thread and EP75 is banned.Life is good my friends.
jak can you let it go cause comments like that start arguments
I just noticed that.It appears things were really rolling while I was away.I just couldnt stay away from watching football.Not only did Cleveland lose which helps out my beloved Steelers.I come back to this thread and EP75 is banned.Life is good my friends.
jak can you let it go cause comments like that start arguments
He's not here to argue so it's ok;)Cleveland losing makes me happier if it's any solace.Doesnt anybody have a sense of humour around here?
ksimms2
12-02-2007, 06:02 PM
goodnight everyone....have a nasty cold, my daughter is watching a "Harry Potter" marathon on TV and I'm pooped. Just wanted to say goodnight....yes...I know it's off topic.
presley31
12-02-2007, 06:03 PM
goodnight everyone....have a nasty cold, my daughter is watching a "Harry Potter" marathon on TV and I'm pooped. Just wanted to say goodnight....yes...I know it's off topic.
goodnight kelly, take care of that cold:hug::hug:
franny
12-02-2007, 06:09 PM
I just noticed that.It appears things were really rolling while I was away.I just couldnt stay away from watching football.Not only did Cleveland lose which helps out my beloved Steelers.I come back to this thread and EP75 is banned.Life is good my friends.
:lmfao: I know I shouldn't but, I can't help it!
franny
franny
12-02-2007, 06:09 PM
goodnight everyone....have a nasty cold, my daughter is watching a "Harry Potter" marathon on TV and I'm pooped. Just wanted to say goodnight....yes...I know it's off topic.
I hope you feel better, Kelly! Take care!
franny
:lmfao: I know I shouldn't but, I can't help it!
franny
At least one person thought my little joke was funny.Now I feel vindicated.Thanks franny!!Now it's off to watch the Bengals at Pittsburgh.
GO STEELERS!!!!!!!
franny
12-02-2007, 06:25 PM
You're welcome, jak! :lol: I hope your team wins! (y)
franny
Diane
12-02-2007, 06:35 PM
I appreciated your humor as well Jak and I agree:). I'm not a sports fan but hope the Steelers come through for you.(y)
Diane
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 06:43 PM
I just noticed that.It appears things were really rolling while I was away.I just couldnt stay away from watching football.Not only did Cleveland lose which helps out my beloved Steelers.I come back to this thread and EP75 is banned.Life is good my friends.
:lmfao::lmfao: Maybe your Steelers will meet my Cowboys in the Super Bowl!! :clap:
How is big Ben doing this year after his motorcycle accident??
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 06:50 PM
He's not here to argue so it's ok;)Cleveland losing makes me happier if it's any solace.Doesnt anybody have a sense of humour around here?
:clap:Me..or at least trying to :clap:
Latte
12-02-2007, 07:16 PM
I guess Elvis was an open-minded liberal running around with a bunch of southern rednecks?? :hmm: :lmfao:
Hey it happens, lol
Frankieg
12-02-2007, 07:48 PM
EXACTLY.
This thread was only started as another lame attempt by Jay to prove to the entire Elvis world that he dated black women. Who cares? This has been an obsession of his for years, and it never turns out pleasantly.
Jay and Lakeisha even went to the ends of the earth to prove Myrna had an intimate relationship with Elvis EVEN AFTER SHE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT THEY HAD NOT. When they are called out on these subjects, their only out is to resort to calling people racist and that we are "showing our true colors".
Please pardon my ignorance. but is this the same "Jay", (Jay1972 ???), that got banned from the FECC board and the 30 #1 Hits forum ???
Well, if that is the case, then I certainly don't doubt all the frustration and vile behaviour on this board as of late ...
He seems to raise hell everywhere he goes, he even called me a racist and other rude names on the 30 #1 Hits forum, then tries desperately to backpeddle his way out of the circle of hate and dust he leaves behind. :mad:
This is a nice, friendly board and I hope to have some great conversation/s with all the fine people, [still] here.
keke23
12-02-2007, 07:58 PM
Please pardon my ignorance. but is this the same "Jay", (Jay1972 ???), that got banned from the FECC board and the 30 #1 Hits forum ???
Well, if that is the case, then I certainly don't doubt all the frustration and vile behaviour on this board as of late ...
He seems to raise hell everywhere he goes, he even called me a racist and other rude names on the 30 #1 Hits forum, then tries desperately to backpeddle his way out of the circle of hate and dust he leaves behind. :mad:
This is a nice, friendly board and I hope to have some great conversation/s with all the fine people, [still] here.
Jay's never been banned from E1.
They never had mods and he along with the rest of us all left because of trolls.
Were you one of them?
As in KC? That's the only trouble there was at E1, was from KC and Kerry, aka Rocknroll here.
KC was always usin the word "backpeddled" as well.:hmm::hmm::hmm:
utmom2008
12-02-2007, 09:22 PM
Please pardon my ignorance. but is this the same "Jay", (Jay1972 ???), that got banned from the FECC board and the 30 #1 Hits forum ???
Well, if that is the case, then I certainly don't doubt all the frustration and vile behaviour on this board as of late ...
He seems to raise hell everywhere he goes, he even called me a racist and other rude names on the 30 #1 Hits forum, then tries desperately to backpeddle his way out of the circle of hate and dust he leaves behind. :mad:
This is a nice, friendly board and I hope to have some great conversation/s with all the fine people, [still] here.
Interesting thought...:hmm: EP75(Jay) was mentioning the FECC board and the 30 #1 Hits board this afternoon. He was saying this board has become as bad as those 2 were.
Anyway.......welcome!! :D:D:D
Frankieg
12-02-2007, 10:12 PM
Jay's never been banned from E1.
They never had mods and he along with the rest of us all left because of trolls.
Were you one of them?
No, were you ?
I remember you, Lakeisha, getting into the same amount of raids and spats on the FECC and E1 boards as you still do on this one ... :hmm:
And you have the nerve to ask me ?
As in KC?
Uh, who's "KC" ?
My name is Frank, I don't need no aliases or hidden names, Thank You.
That's the only trouble there was at E1, was from KC and Kerry, aka Rocknroll here.
Actually, I never posted at E1 much, only went there for reference and news after I became an Elvis fan.
I do, however, remember YOU being just as much as an instigator and troublemaker on that site as you spew venom on others here and elsewhere. Not Kool ...
KC was always usin the word "backpeddled" as well.:hmm::hmm::hmm:
I'm sorry, did "KC" invent that word ?
In fact, If I recall correctly, "Jay", (or is it really you?) , used that same term just before he got banned earlier today ...
Try again, and Thanks for the warm welcome :!::D
keke23
12-02-2007, 10:31 PM
No, were you ?
I remember you, Lakeisha, getting into the same amount of raids and spats on the FECC and E1 boards as you still do on this one ... :hmm:
And you have the nerve to ask me ?
Uh, who's "KC" ?
My name is Frank, I don't need no aliases or hidden names, Thank You.
Actually, I never posted at E1 much, only went there for reference and news after I became an Elvis fan.
I do, however, remember YOU being just as much as an instigator and troublemaker on that site as you spew venom on others here and elsewhere. Not Kool ...
I'm sorry, did "KC" invent that word ?
In fact, If I recall correctly, "Jay", (or is it really you?) , used that same term just before he got banned earlier today ...
Try again, and Thanks for the warm welcome :!::D
Yep, it's definitely KC.
There was never a "Frank" who posted at E1.
I was one of the very first to post there.
You're definitely KC aka King creole.
Frankieg
12-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Yep, it's definitely KC.
There was never a "Frank" who posted at E1.
I was one of the very first to post there.
You're definitely KC aka King creole.
I can see some things never change ... (n)
Why is it that you still choose to be so ignorant and irrational ?
Oh, that's right, you've been caught with your pants down once too many times, now you reep ... I see.
Once again, the communication system is broken down, I used my real name, (Frank), as my log in back in 2002 on E1, (as I did here), after I purchased Elvis: 30 #1 Hits. There's no hidden message or mystery Lakeisha.
Like I previously stated, just in case you still can't figure it out, I never posted that much. I just went there for reference and news.
Jumpsuit Junkie
12-03-2007, 12:42 AM
This really has gone on long enough :mad:
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