Yall next week's the week!

[keke23]

Remember I told yall that my source said there was gonna be a big announcement within a week or so about the new plans for Graceland?

Well, it was on the news here tonight that the current city council is gonna go ahead and start up the new redevelopment of Graceland instead of waitin on a new city council.

Sillerman is gonna kick in 200 million dollars on his own money into the area as part of the deal.:supriced:

Sillerman and EPE are gonna have a big announcement next week, this comin week.

They said somethin about an Elvis World like Disney World was gonna be part of the plan in over a 100 acres.

There's gonna be a convention center and a new walk way to Graceland as well, accordin to the news.

So next week we'll know more about the transformation that's about to take place at Graceland and then yall anti-Sillerman haters can judge his decisions.

IMO, I think yall should give the guy a chance and see what it's all gonna be first.

So far everything I've heard is that he's keepin the integrity of the mansion by buildin all the new attractions around it and that it's gonna be phenomenal!

Tom Marshall called it "Memphis' own Disney".:D

[utmom2008]

Remember I told yall that my source said there was gonna be a big announcement within a week or so about the new plans for Graceland?

Well, it was on the news here tonight that the current city council is gonna go ahead and start up the new redevelopment of Graceland instead of waitin on a new city council.

Sillerman is gonna kick in 200 million dollars on his own money into the area as part of the deal.:supriced:

Sillerman and EPE are gonna have a big announcement next week, this comin week.

They said somethin about an Elvis World like Disney World was gonna be part of the plan in over a 100 acres.

There's gonna be a convention center and a new walk way to Graceland as well, accordin to the news.

So next week we'll know more about the transformation that's about to take place at Graceland and then yall anti-Sillerman haters can judge his decisions.

IMO, I think yall should give the guy a chance and see what it's all gonna be first.

So far everything I've heard is that he's keepin the integrity of the mansion by buildin all the new attractions around it and that it's gonna be phenomenal!

Tom Marshall called it "Memphis' own Disney".:D
Maybe some of the "anti Sillerman haters" would like him better if you would give it a rest. Don't you ever get tired of the same old posts Lakeisha? :hmm: Maybe you need to try a new approach.:lol::lol::lmfao:

[EDOEP]

Remember I told yall that my source said there was gonna be a big announcement within a week or so about the new plans for Graceland?

lakeisha,

i can only second utmom's posting. in your little lakeisha-world this 'one-and-only-elvis-topic-of-interest-for-little-lakeisha' may play THE major role, the rest of the forum has a not-so-little-elvis-world with a few more topics.

may we all hope you're not going to start a new thread every day, counting down :'(. forumbuddies, remember to include this topic in your evening prayers :lmfao:.

greetings from a forum-member living in a 'not-so-tiny-elvis-world'.


(PS: question to the admins: what again was the definition of 'SPAM'? wouldn't that SAME topic in numerous threads within a couple of weeks, started by one and the same user, qualify for that definition? just an idea.

hugs, ellie)

[presley31]

Remember I told yall that my source said there was gonna be a big announcement within a week or so about the new plans for Graceland?

Well, it was on the news here tonight that the current city council is gonna go ahead and start up the new redevelopment of Graceland instead of waitin on a new city council.

Sillerman is gonna kick in 200 million dollars on his own money into the area as part of the deal.:supriced:

Sillerman and EPE are gonna have a big announcement next week, this comin week.

They said somethin about an Elvis World like Disney World was gonna be part of the plan in over a 100 acres.

There's gonna be a convention center and a new walk way to Graceland as well, accordin to the news.

So next week we'll know more about the transformation that's about to take place at Graceland and then yall anti-Sillerman haters can judge his decisions.

IMO, I think yall should give the guy a chance and see what it's all gonna be first.

So far everything I've heard is that he's keepin the integrity of the mansion by buildin all the new attractions around it and that it's gonna be phenomenal!

Tom Marshall called it "Memphis' own Disney".:D

Thanks but will wait to see this for myself.

[Diane]

After this post I'm going to skip this thread....I'm all Sillermaned out. :D

Diane

[EDOEP]

After this post I'm going to skip this thread....I'm all Sillermaned out. :D

Diane

you are so right, diane & and presley31 & utmom .... we shouldn't 'feed the trolls' in general, and especially not our very TCB-world-own trolls.

:lmfao:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

hugs, ellie

[keke23]

First of all, don't be gettin no attitude with me. None of yall got any right to diss me on this.

I just posted what was said on the news about a big announcement for this comin week.

Second, if yall got an issue or a problem with me postin some info, that aint spam either, then too bad.....it's Elvis related and it goes here.

Last, I don't know about some of yall, but the Graceland news around here has been #1 topic lately. Especially in Whitehaven where it could make or break the future of that, my former hood, community.

Admins.....I thought harassment wasn't allowed here? :hmm:

[presley31]

First of all, don't be gettin no attitude with me. None of yall got any right to diss me on this.

I just posted what was said on the news about a big announcement for this comin week.

Second, if yall got an issue or a problem with me postin some info, that aint spam either, then too bad.....it's Elvis related and it goes here.

Last, I don't know about some of yall, but the Graceland news around here has been #1 topic lately. Especially in Whitehaven where it could make or break the future of that, my former hood, community.

Admins.....I thought harassment wasn't allowed here? :hmm:

i don't have any problems with you, just haven't heard anything about changes.

[keke23]

Since some of yall think I'm makin it up, here's your proof.

It's from WMC 5 here in town.

It's not from the news station I saw last night, but it's basically the same thing.

Watch the vid clip for the report.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7435396

[garydt]

Getting back on topic, I'm a bit wary of having Elvis associated with Disney as it might make Elvis look more of a comic charater or a figure of fun then he already is in the American public eye. But then again it will probably draw more visitors to Graceland which is what Silverman wants.

[presley31]

Outside of graceland would be nice but l don't want to see graceland or the grounds being touched.

[rocknroll]

Another thread on this topic....AGAIN?

You all know where this is heading.

Lakeisha thinks she is being harrased when the members on here are just telling her we are tired of this same old subject polluting the board.

Time to lock this thread before it turns into another 50 page slugfest.

Disney at Graceland. Memphis can have it, and continue to be the joke city of the USA.

BTW, what is this word "Yall"? What does it mean?

[presley31]

Another thread on this topic....AGAIN?

You all know where this is heading.

Lakeisha thinks she is being harrased when the members on here are just telling her we are tired of this same old subject polluting the board.

Time to lock this thread before it turns into another 50 page slugfest.

Disney at Graceland. Memphis can have it, and continue to be the joke city of the USA.

BTW, what is this word "Yall"? What does it mean?

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7435396 take a look

[rocknroll]

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7435396 take a look

Saw it the first time, and not denying anything here. Just pointing out that this thread is alreading heading into the toilet.(n)

[presley31]

Saw it the first time, and not denying anything here. Just pointing out that this thread is alreading heading into the toilet.(n)

I just sent a email to EPE to see what they have to say about these changes. Will post the email when they reply.

[cameron]

First of all, don't be gettin no attitude with me. None of yall got any right to diss me on this.

I just posted what was said on the news about a big announcement for this comin week.

Second, if yall got an issue or a problem with me postin some info, that aint spam either, then too bad.....it's Elvis related and it goes here.

Last, I don't know about some of yall, but the Graceland news around here has been #1 topic lately. Especially in Whitehaven where it could make or break the future of that, my former hood, community.
Admins.....I thought harassment wasn't allowed here? :hmm:

I can see how happy this would make the people living in Whitehaven and surrounding areas. I've always said Graceland and that whole area needs to be cleaned up . None of us live there, {I don't guess,} so it's not as important to us as the ones that live there. Except, we'd not want to see Graceland {or anyplace close} made a Disneyland.
IMO; the first I saw of this "bothered" some . But, it was the way it was worded, not necessarilly the content. Maybe too much "fanfare" before it's actually come to pass? Anyway, I'm happy for the residents that live there .
I take the position of; lets wait and see before getting too excited.

Your last comment as to harassment . I agree . It destroys a site.
If all one wants to do is fuss and fight....get married .
There are ways to disagree without hurting other people.
This is not my site or many would not be here .
Ultimately, it's up to us whether we want to take the abuse or move on to a more friendly place.
Ciao~~~~~(y)

[EDOEP]

First of all, don't be gettin no attitude with me. None of yall got any right to diss me on this.

... Admins.....I thought harassment wasn't allowed here? :hmm:

lakeisha,

'harrassing' would be if i posted in plain and simple words what i think your IQ-level is :doh: ..... no need to do so, however, you're doing a perfect job yourself on that issue.

and one more time your 'reliable' source is that phony TV-station that you are quoting all the time. probably because there's no other source you possibly could quote. and should next week like always nothing be confirmed, as usual you'll find 27 explanations why ....

[Tommy]

Please cool down.

Thank you.

[EDOEP]

Another thread on this topic....AGAIN?

You all know where this is heading.

Lakeisha thinks she is being harrased when the members on here are just telling her we are tired of this same old subject polluting the board.

Time to lock this thread before it turns into another 50 page slugfest.

Disney at Graceland. Memphis can have it, and continue to be the joke city of the USA.

BTW, what is this word "Yall"? What does it mean?

yes, and the member got a warning for telling her so :doh:

hugs, rocknroll!

ellie

[Johnny]

.....it's Elvis related and it goes here.

Again I'll say this; no it's not

[presley31]

The information that Lakeisha just posted, must have some turth to it cause it just got posted in the elvis gold collectors news.

[utmom2008]

After this post I'm going to skip this thread....I'm all Sillermaned out. :D

Diane
Wonderful idea Diane(y)(y) If we would all stop replying to these inflamatory threads about Graceland maybe she will stop posting them. IMO..it is only done to get a rise out of everybody. It's very interesting that she never posts on any other subject. :hmm::hmm: :lol:

[presley31]

Wonderful idea Diane(y)(y) If we would all stop replying to these inflamatory threads about Graceland maybe she will stop posting them. IMO..it is only done to get a rise out of everybody. It's very interesting that she never posts on any other subject. :hmm::hmm: :lol:

she's entitled to post stuff to, no matter if we like it or not.

[utmom2008]

she's entitled to post stuff to, no matter if we like it or not.
:lol::lol: Yes, she is entitled to post AND we are entitled not to respond!! ;););)

[presley31]

I just spoke to someone from memphis that says that theres some turth to this matter, but graceland won't be touched, they just want to clean up the area around graceland for visitors.

[COL DRIES]

Well i was planning to go to the U.S.A. again to see Graceland again !
If this really gonna happen , I stay at home and spend my money on some new items !!
It really would be a great lost ( at least that's how i feel about it )
I always went to feel the Elvis Magic and i don't go for the Disney magic !!

[Miss Clawdy]

I just spoke to someone from memphis that says that theres some turth to this matter, but graceland won't be touched, they just want to clean up the area around graceland for visitors.

Isn't there a significant difference between 'cleaning up the area' and 'building an Elvis Disney World' ??? :supriced:


Well i was planning to go to the U.S.A. again to see Graceland again !
If this really gonna happen , I stay at home and spend my money on some new items !!
It really would be a great lost ( at least that's how i feel about it )
I always went to feel the Elvis Magic and i don't go for the Disney magic !!

You are lucky, you already have felt the Elvis Magic :D, I am envious ;).

[presley31]

Isn't there a significant difference between 'cleaning up the area' and 'building an Elvis Disney World' ??? :supriced:



You are lucky, you already have felt the Elvis Magic :D, I am envious ;).

Right now, the plan calls for a hotel and convention center, a walkway to the Graceland mansion, retail shops, and restaurants on more than 100 acres Sillerman's group bought from owners of properties surrounding Graceland

doesn't sound so bad to me

[Tony Trout]

Right now, the plan calls for a hotel and convention center, a walkway to the Graceland mansion, retail shops, and restaurants on more than 100 acres Sillerman's group bought from owners of properties surrounding Graceland

doesn't sound so bad to me

I agree...I honestly think we're all getting a little too excited and opinionated over what I would consider to be a very good change to Memphis and the area around Graceland.

Always remember...Bob Sillerman absolutely cannot touch the mansion or alternate it in any way whatsoever. It's Lisa's and Lisa's alone to touch...nobody else.

[ruggishboo]

The area around Graceland is not a safe area, and hasn't been for several years. The Memphis of today is very different than the Memphis of the 50's or even the late 70's. Crime continues to get worse, someone is shot or killed there on a daily basis, the city government is scandal-ridden and the mayor who's served there for 16 years continues to be re-elected despite the growing problems and his own scandals. I was raised an hour away from there, and know many people from Memphis, so I have watched that great city continue to drown itself in problems and crime over the years. I don't know what the solution is, perhaps if all of this comes to pass, it might help out the city, and at least make the immediate area around the mansion safer. I haven't been to Graceland in five years now, I used to go whenever I could do so. It's just not worth the headaches now to go because of where it's at, and that's sad to me. So anyway, I guess we will see years down the road what effect this will have on Memphis and Elvis's image/legacy.

[Miss Clawdy]

Right now, the plan calls for a hotel and convention center, a walkway to the Graceland mansion, retail shops, and restaurants on more than 100 acres Sillerman's group bought from owners of properties surrounding Graceland

doesn't sound so bad to me

In the article you posted it also says:

'New Yorker Bob Sillerman wants to make Graceland into a mega-resort like Disney World- or maybe Elvis World. To support his idea, Sillerman is pumping more than $200 million into the area around Graceland mansion.'

Doesn't sound so good to me :doh:

[utmom2008]

I haven't been to Graceland in five years now, I used to go whenever I could do so. It's just not worth the headaches now to go because of where it's at, and that's sad to me. So anyway, I guess we will see years down the road what effect this will have on Memphis and Elvis's image/legacy.

Can you tell us exactly what you mean when you say you haven't been in 5 years because it's not worth the headache? Do you not feel safe because of the crime??:supriced::blink::supriced:

[ruggishboo]

Can you tell us exactly what you mean when you say you haven't been in 5 years because it's not worth the headache? Do you not feel safe because of the crime??:supriced::blink::supriced:

Pretty much yeah. Five years ago though I wasn't married and had two small kids. lol I'd love to take them to Graceland sometime, but only if I feel like it's safer.

[franny]

In the article you posted it also says:

'New Yorker Bob Sillerman wants to make Graceland into a mega-resort like Disney World- or maybe Elvis World. To support his idea, Sillerman is pumping more than $200 million into the area around Graceland mansion.'

Doesn't sound so good to me :doh:

I think it's a good idea as long as it's around Graceland mansion and not in it! I have never been there, but from what most say on here, it sounds like the surrounding areas need a good clean-up! (y)

franny

[presley31]

I agree...I honestly think we're all getting a little too excited and opinionated over what I would consider to be a very good change to Memphis and the area around Graceland.

Always remember...Bob Sillerman absolutely cannot touch the mansion or alternate it in any way whatsoever. It's Lisa's and Lisa's alone to touch...nobody else.

yep l sure agree with you Tony.

[SweetCaroline]

Right now, the plan calls for a hotel and convention center, a walkway to the Graceland mansion, retail shops, and restaurants on more than 100 acres Sillerman's group bought from owners of properties surrounding Graceland

doesn't sound so bad to me


I agree with you Presley31 and with Tony Trout. In fact, it sounds like the changes will be a blessing. I am an "oldie but goodie " ;) that does not take easily to change myself, so I can understand the bit of hesitation by other ELVIS fans.It is always easier to sit and whine and gripe than to accept the unknown...but I have a feeling a whole lot of complaining ELVIS fans are going to be eating crow when this thing is all said and done. I could be wrong, but right now that is where I place my bet. ;)

[Getlo]

They said somethin about an Elvis World like Disney World was gonna be part of the plan in over a 100 acres.

Tom Marshall called it "Memphis' own Disney".:D

But I thought EPE said it wasn't going to be like a Disney-type thing? ;)

I said from the absolute get-go that the sale to BS and his cronies was bad news.

The more I hear about Graceland's future, the sicker I feel!

If you've never been, folks, get there while you can ... before it all goes to pot.

[EP75]

Man this is exciting news!!(y) I was afraid that the city delaying the plans for a new city council group to study it more would mean that it would all fall apart and we would never get to see EP and Graceland reach the star level that it's now about to!:notworthy I am really happy for the residents that are good hearted and not trouble making civilians who will get their dues in all of this, and that all the drug dealers will be ran out.(y) It also will help heal wombs between EP and the black community by his legacy being so iconic that a redevelopment for a ghetto can be transformed into a palace at his expense.:D This will without a doubt have a tremendous impact on newer fans and make visiting Graceland feel more safer and mroe exciting. When I was there last back in 1995 it wasn't all that bad then. I remember it looking like a normal inner city. But over the years I have heard from countless amounts of people who have visited Graceland that it isn't safe anymore. Some have actually been robbed and one was shot in the head as I mentioned on another thread a while back. Now my claim looks more evident with a couple on here now claiming the exact same thing of how dangerous it really is now.

Lakeisha told me by phone when we first began talking back last year that she doesn't even feel safe going back there anymore. Think if that was your neighborhood and no one cared whether it was cleaned up or not. How would you feel? It would depress you and you wouldn't want to call it home anymore. This is why many of you here need to put yourself in her shoes and see it through open eyes and not through EP-World eyes only. This is a MAJOR issue with that part of town. It will generate tourists $$$$ for the residents. It will raise the revenue to record high standards. And it will improve the property value to new levels. And it will improve the image of EP to new standards also!(y)

Memphis is in a very dangerous position right now. The city is becoming the most out of control town in America. I was watching the world news the other night and they showed the top highest rated cities for HIV/AIDS cases and sadly Memphis was 2nd.:'( How would EP feel about that? He would be sad and scared for his Memphis brothers and sistersEspecially knowing that a very large majority of those cases are black.:'( The city is on the FBI's most dangerous list as their #1 most dangerous city in America.:'( Once again how would EP feel? Once again-very sad. Memphis is constantly in the world news but for the wrong reasons. Their government is dirty and crooked. Their historical landmarks are poorly up kept (as is the case with the Graceland surroundings and the Lorraine Motel) and their big investment plans usually crash and collapse under pressure. That is all why this is a major deal for those people. They need this as much as we need food and water.

Memphis is close to going under and once they do there's no coming back from it financially. And if Memphis as a city goes under then so will Graceland. The home has already had a large drop off in tourism over the past 3 years. This year it will jump back up because of the anniversary month alone. But the rest of the year has suffered. EPE uses the excuse of 911 as for the drop off which is incorrect. That's just a cover up for the bad environment around the area. It is the crime around the area and the visitors know that.

Did you guys know that Memphis is $3 billion in financial depth.:supriced: That's why a Disney-like attraction that is a major money maker as Graceland will become is so important to their economy as Disney has been for both Anaheim and Orlando over the years.

[EP75]

I agree with you Presley31 and with Tony Trout. In fact, it sounds like the changes will be a blessing. I am an "oldie but goodie " ;) that does not take easily to change myself, so I can understand the bit of hesitation by other ELVIS fans.It is always easier to sit and whine and gripe than to accept the unknown...but I have a feeling a whole lot of complaining ELVIS fans are going to be eating crow when this thing is all said and done. I could be wrong, but right now that is where I place my bet. ;)

PERFECT!!(y) I couldn't have said it better myself. :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[KPM]

First of all, don't be gettin no attitude with me. None of yall got any right to diss me on this.

I just posted what was said on the news about a big announcement for this comin week.

Second, if yall got an issue or a problem with me postin some info, that aint spam either, then too bad.....it's Elvis related and it goes here.

Last, I don't know about some of yall, but the Graceland news around here has been #1 topic lately. Especially in Whitehaven where it could make or break the future of that, my former hood, community.

Admins.....I thought harassment wasn't allowed here? :hmm:
Truthfully I would never want to diss anyone-but I also think the Elvis's memory has lasted 30 years without Sillerman. Time will tell how well he understands what is right for Elvis's legacy. I have nothing against him, but Elvis is the center of the whole legacy-not convention centers, nor how changes would benefit Whitehavens area.
If he is investing his money to help Whitehavens then he is in the wrong business-urban renewal is where he should be investing. I hope you do not think my post is harrassing-it is not meant to be. I am simply saying, most of us have a wait and see attitude about what will happen.

[EP75]

I don't think he's investing money just to upgrade the neighborhood. The reason for the rezoning is to transform the area from residential to commercial district. He doesn't want a neighborhood behind or next to Graceland from what has all been reported. He's investing that money into the area that will be affected the most by the new changes to the new attractions coming to Graceland. But that area apparently affects the African American community the most. So it's a win-win situation for them and for him and EPE and the future of Graceland.(y)

[utmom2008]

Truthfully I would never want to diss anyone-but I also think the Elvis's memory has lasted 30 years without Sillerman. Time will tell how well he understands what is right for Elvis's legacy. I have nothing against him, but Elvis is the center of the whole legacy-not convention centers, nor how changes would benefit Whitehavens area.
If he is investing his money to help Whitehavens then he is in the wrong business-urban renewal is where he should be investing. I hope you do not think my post is harrassing-it is not meant to be. I am simply saying, most of us have a wait and see attitude about what will happen.
Perfectly said KPM...as always.(y) What I don't understand is this....they can spend 10 billion dollars on Hotels and restaurants, walk-ways and attractions. That does not change the demographics of the surrounding area. The same "type" of people will still live in the same area, the areas will just be pushed back a little with the new expanded borders. I grew up in Dallas and this has been a major problem in that city. The Cotton Bowl is located right in the middle of Fair Park, and Fair Park is located right in the middle of the worst inner-city hood in Dallas. There is a constant battle over what to do with the run down old Cotton Bowl. Taxpayers do NOT want to commit money to spend refurbishing the Stadium because of the neighborhood. Yet...the CB and the State Fair of Texas are a huge part of the history of Dallas. Building a new Hotel will NOT bring in a classier neighborhood in Whitehaven. Graceland is stuck right in the middle of an area of town that's not going to change, and you can't pick up the house and move it to a better part......;););)

[presley31]

The area around Graceland is not a safe area, and hasn't been for several years. The Memphis of today is very different than the Memphis of the 50's or even the late 70's. Crime continues to get worse, someone is shot or killed there on a daily basis, the city government is scandal-ridden and the mayor who's served there for 16 years continues to be re-elected despite the growing problems and his own scandals. I was raised an hour away from there, and know many people from Memphis, so I have watched that great city continue to drown itself in problems and crime over the years. I don't know what the solution is, perhaps if all of this comes to pass, it might help out the city, and at least make the immediate area around the mansion safer. I haven't been to Graceland in five years now, I used to go whenever I could do so. It's just not worth the headaches now to go because of where it's at, and that's sad to me. So anyway, I guess we will see years down the road what effect this will have on Memphis and Elvis's image/legacy.

Thanks for the input, l would like see the change go though for the people who live in memphis. I for one want to be feel safe when l get to graceland someday.

[EP75]

Perfectly said KPM...as always.(y) What I don't understand is this....they can spend 10 billion dollars on Hotels and restaurants, walk-ways and attractions. That does not change the demographics of the surrounding area. The same "type" of people will still live in the same area, the areas will just be pushed back a little with the new expanded borders. I grew up in Dallas and this has been a major problem in that city. The Cotton Bowl is located right in the middle of Fair Park, and Fair Park is located right in the middle of the worst inner-city hood in Dallas. There is a constant battle over what to do with the run down old Cotton Bowl. Taxpayers do NOT want to commit money to spend refurbishing the Stadium because of the neighborhood. Yet...the CB and the State Fair of Texas are a huge part of the history of Dallas. Building a new Hotel will NOT bring in a classier neighborhood in Whitehaven. Graceland is stuck right in the middle of an area of town that's not going to change, and you can't pick up the house and move it to a better part......;););)

Umm, you can't invest billions of dollars into an area and not see a drastic improvement economically. It's impossible. The changes for Whitehaven will change that area because they are buying up homes and apartment complexes that occupy many of those people and forcing them to go elsewhere but with more money to work with. There's no way on God's green earth that Bob Sillerman (or any billionaire for that matter) would invest such amount of money into an area if the same problems that occur today were to still be there later. This is the #1 reason why he needs the city government to back it. Their duties will be to tear down buildings that are unrepairable. Police the area more and clean up streets and businesses. Tear down power lines and run them underground and fix the infrastructure. Tax dollars will not be used on this project. That has already been stated by both Bob Sillerman and the council. It's on the link that Lakeisha posted. "There won't be a tax hike involved". That's the reason he got clearance for Government welfare. he knew exactly what he was doing. He knew that Memphis as a poor economical city could never have afforded such a project and by getting government welfare he can avoid going that route.

Some here are acting as if this plan is just quickly thrown together without any long term studies. This project has been heavily and carefully studied. It's too obvious. You can clearly see that Bob Sillerman's people have studied the demographic numbers of Graceland visitors by age groups by going in such a drastic and dangerous direction that they are about to take. I can't see him investing that much money into something that could completely backfire in his face and make him go broke. He would have to be a complete out of tune ***** to do that. And you don't become a multi-billionaire by being that dumb and naive:D

[cameron]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/Southavenmap2.jpg







Maneuvers
Distance Maps
1: Start out going EAST on HALE RD toward ELVIS PRESLEY BLVD / US-51 / TN-3. 0.2 miles Map

2: Turn LEFT onto ELVIS PRESLEY BLVD / US-51 / TN-3. 1.3 miles Map

3: End at 3734 Elvis Presley Blvd
Memphis, TN 38116-4106, US Map

Total Est. Time: 4 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1.60 miles

[cameron]

I am a "visual" person. IF you've never been to Graceland ; please look up a map of Whitehaven and Graceland. {I couldn't get the one off I found}

Whitehaven and Graceland are right there together. Whatever happens with one will undoubtly affect the other. A clean-up will help both.
Now, maybe we can wait, watch and see how it all unfolds.

[Awickedreigndrop]

Getting back on topic, I'm a bit wary of having Elvis associated with Disney as it might make Elvis look more of a comic charater or a figure of fun then he already is in the American public eye. But then again it will probably draw more visitors to Graceland which is what Silverman wants.

I think this is why this topic rubs some of the Elvis fans the wrong way. They(Sillerman & Co.) keep comparing the Graceland/Whitehaven upgrade to Disneyland. If it's not intent to turn that area into an Elvis themed amusement park then maybe they should word things differently so people won't get so upset. There's got to be something else that they can compare it to.

[keke23]

Wicked, some folks don't know the difference between apples and oranges.

The "Disney" reference is got more to do with Graceland becomin as popular of an attraction on a scale with what Disney is today.

It aint gonna be an amusement park. Disney's basically a family style resort with multiple attractions.

That's Sillerman's plan for the whole area. He's got no plans to turn it into an Elvis theme park

I posted this way back last year at E1 forum.

It's gonna be a themed attraction with museums, restaurants, and shops, like Disney has.

As my friend/source put it......a museum complex designed like a theme park but with no rides.

It's mind bogglin to see most folks here can't comprehend that and still say they don't wanna see an amusement park at Graceland.

And they question my IQ? LMBAO

[keke23]

Umm, you can't invest billions of dollars into an area and not see a drastic improvement economically. It's impossible. The changes for Whitehaven will change that area because they are buying up homes and apartment complexes that occupy many of those people and forcing them to go elsewhere but with more money to work with. There's no way on God's green earth that Bob Sillerman (or any billionaire for that matter) would invest such amount of money into an area if the same problems that occur today were to still be there later. This is the #1 reason why he needs the city government to back it. Their duties will be to tear down buildings that are unrepairable. Police the area more and clean up streets and businesses. Tear down power lines and run them underground and fix the infrastructure. Tax dollars will not be used on this project. That has already been stated by both Bob Sillerman and the council. It's on the link that Lakeisha posted. "There won't be a tax hike involved". That's the reason he got clearance for Government welfare. he knew exactly what he was doing. He knew that Memphis as a poor economical city could never have afforded such a project and by getting government welfare he can avoid going that route.

Some here are acting as if this plan is just quickly thrown together without any long term studies. This project has been heavily and carefully studied. It's too obvious. You can clearly see that Bob Sillerman's people have studied the demographic numbers of Graceland visitors by age groups by going in such a drastic and dangerous direction that they are about to take. I can't see him investing that much money into something that could completely backfire in his face and make him go broke. He would have to be a complete out of tune ***** to do that. And you don't become a multi-billionaire by being that dumb and naive:D

CO-SIGN!!

It is as I told you, as important to our economy that this doesn't fall through.

I was talkin to a lady yesterday about this transformation, and she said it's a good thing they decided to do it now because had they let that area continue to deteriorate that Graceland might be forced to close due to crime in the area.

It's been on the news here about prostitutes on EPB and near Graceland soliciting folks for sex and drugs as they drive through the area.

Blackhaven is also now known as Gangland instead of Graceland.

It's not safe anymore.

Memphis is fallin apart and it kills me to see my beautiful historical hometown like it is.:(:(:(

That's why we need this change to happen ASAP! Not 5-10 years down the road.

I'm confident that Mr Sillerman sees that as well, at least for the security and protection of his own investment, if nothin else.

And if the fans can't understand that, then they don't have a heart, as far as I'm concerned.

[utmom2008]

And they question my IQ? LMBAO




Are we allowed to use "racial" overtones?? I didn't think I could use LMWAO? :hmm::hmm::hmm:

[presley31]

CO-SIGN!!

It is as I told you, as important to our economy that this doesn't fall through.

I was talkin to a lady yesterday about this transformation, and she said it's a good thing they decided to do it now because had they let that area continue to deteriorate that Graceland might be forced to close due to crime in the area.

It's been on the news here about prostitutes on EPB and near Graceland soliciting folks for sex and drugs as they drive through the area.

Blackhaven is also now known as Gangland instead of Graceland.

It's not safe anymore.

Memphis is fallin apart and it kills me to see my beautiful historical hometown like it is.:(:(:(

That's why we need this change to happen ASAP! Not 5-10 years down the road.

I'm confident that Mr Sillerman sees that as well, at least for the security and protection of his own investment, if nothin else.

And if the fans can't understand that, then they don't have a heart, as far as I'm concerned.

well said (y)(y)

[EP75]

Are we allowed to use "racial" overtones?? I didn't think I could use LMWAO? :hmm::hmm::hmm:


Let's see, you have been a member since October of 2007 (this year) and Lakeisha and I have both been here much longer than that (me since March 2006) and yet most of your posts are aimed as attacks on her or me.:hmm:

[Miss Clawdy]

Wicked, some folks don't know the difference between apples and oranges.

The "Disney" reference is got more to do with Graceland becomin as popular of an attraction on a scale with what Disney is today.

It aint gonna be an amusement park. Disney's basically a family style resort with multiple attractions.

That's Sillerman's plan for the whole area. He's got no plans to turn it into an Elvis theme park

I posted this way back last year at E1 forum.

It's gonna be a themed attraction with museums, restaurants, and shops, like Disney has.

As my friend/source put it......a museum complex designed like a theme park but with no rides.

It's mind bogglin to see most folks here can't comprehend that and still say they don't wanna see an amusement park at Graceland.

And they question my IQ? LMBAO

Thank's for explaining the difference between apples and oranges,
especially your description of Disney. What I still think of Disney is,
it's a tacky crap enterprise attracting kids from 2 to 13 with their
cheap attractions, who has only one thing in mind: Money.
The only good thing is that the former residents of Whiteheaven,
the prostitutes, dealer, junkies and other criminals will certainly get
a new good job at Sillerman's Elvis Theme Park (y).
And I really hope everything's ok with my IQ :blink:

[EP75]

CO-SIGN!!

It is as I told you, as important to our economy that this doesn't fall through.

I was talkin to a lady yesterday about this transformation, and she said it's a good thing they decided to do it now because had they let that area continue to deteriorate that Graceland might be forced to close due to crime in the area.

It's been on the news here about prostitutes on EPB and near Graceland soliciting folks for sex and drugs as they drive through the area.

Blackhaven is also now known as Gangland instead of Graceland.

It's not safe anymore.

Memphis is fallin apart and it kills me to see my beautiful historical hometown like it is.:(:(:(

That's why we need this change to happen ASAP! Not 5-10 years down the road.

I'm confident that Mr Sillerman sees that as well, at least for the security and protection of his own investment, if nothin else.

And if the fans can't understand that, then they don't have a heart, as far as I'm concerned.

And that's the main problem with the fans. The ones who are complaining "don't mess with it, it's fine as it is" have no clue whatsoever of the surrounding areas dangers. I don't live in Memphis or near the area and so I wasn't aware that it was THAT bad until people I know here that have been there tell me it's becoming to be more of a Disgrace-land than anything. The die hard fans who travel for the anniversary month celebrations aren't going to see trouble or crime in that area because of the cops around policing it so much. So they aren't going to be aware or understand why there must be change.

Some keep using the term "phony media coverage" as a way to discredit the sources. I think all that is is a cop out to ignore the problem as if it does not exist and to live in denial. I'm sure the fans aren't that naive. There is also somewhat of a selfishness by the fans also. It's like with the remixes-some fans complain about messing with the music when the originals will always be around for them to hear. Same with Graceland-some complain about transforming the area and building new and exciting exhibit facilities next to the mansion when the house itself will remain a major attraction as it is today but in a safer environment.

Lakeisha, I have to say that after getting to know you and see that you are a really cool person that I really worry for you and your son's safety living in that hell hole. Some here just don't realise what a down to earth funny as heck kind of girl you really are.(y)

[presley31]

l agree this is a good idea and for those who don't live in memphis really don't understand what happens there.

[EP75]

Thank's for explaining the difference between apples and oranges,
especially your description of Disney. What I still think of Disney is,
it's a tacky crap enterprise attracting kids from 2 to 13 with their
cheap attractions, who has only one thing in mind: Money.
The only good thing is that the former residents of Whiteheaven,
the prostitutes, dealer, junkies and other criminals will certainly get
a new good job at Sillerman's Elvis Theme Park (y).
And I really hope everything's ok with my IQ :blink:

Apparently you haven't been to Disney World resort in a LONG time or at all. Disney World is by far not just for the kids anymore. Most of the visitors that tour Disney World and Epcot and Universal and Animal Kingdom are from kids to teenagers, young adults, grown up adults and grandparents. Most adults want to relive their youth through Disney World. It's also a romantic place to relax and enjoy your vacation. To release stress. That's what Disney World resort is all about. They spend more money on just making their visitors and guests feel special than they do on their attractions. It's been reported that Disney World has the best hotel resorts and staff of anyplace in the world!

Why wouldn't EP fans want that for EP and the visitors to Graceland? Disneyland is an amusement park and more for the kids. But Disney World is a whole different thing. One's a park and the other's a themed resort. As what is being planned for Graceland.

[EP75]

l agree this is a good idea and for those who don't live in memphis really don't understand what happens there.

Exactly!(y) I read the Memphis Commercial Appeal online every morning before going to work because I am a big Memphis Tigers fan in college basketball. That's also the school Lakeisha goes to. So I want to see anything new on them. But all I first stumble over is another shooting in Memphis, and sadly in Whitehaven before I glance at the sports section. So that's how I know what's going on there too. That and Lakeisha relaying the news to me via email. My dad grew up in Frayser in north Memphis back in the 60's and even got to meet EP and Vernon one day. I've told the story a thousand times. So I'm sure everyone has heard it by now. So by my dad growing up there is why I am a lifelong fan of the local school Memphis State University now known as University of Memphis.:)

[rocknroll]

well said (y)(y)

Ridiculous....as usual.

[rocknroll]

Let's see, you have been a member since October of 2007 (this year) and Lakeisha and I have both been here much longer than that (me since March 2006) and yet most of your posts are aimed as attacks on her or me.:hmm:

Because what you two post is only useful in inciting arguments......and you know it.

[rocknroll]

3 pages, and growing. Now taking bets as to how many pages before lockdown.

[GirlHappy19]

That Is My Avatar----not Right:'((n):bangin:

[GirlHappy19]

Tommy That Was The Avatar I Chosed For Xmas.is Not Fair:supriced::'(

[EP75]

3 pages, and growing. Now taking bets as to how many pages before lockdown.

You just criticized Presley31 for agreeing with Lakeisha and then you turn around and complain about this being 3 pages and growing. You just added the fuel to the fire by doing that. Maybe it's YOU who is causing the havoc by throwing in your two cents of sarcasm. Maybe you are the one along with a few others who the moderators need to put on lockdown. Not the threads.

[rocknroll]

You just criticized Presley31 for agreeing with Lakeisha and then you turn around and complain about this being 3 pages and growing. You just added the fuel to the fire by doing that. Maybe it's YOU who is causing the havoc by throwing in your two cents of sarcasm. Maybe you are the one along with a few others who the moderators need to put on lockdown. Not the threads.

Doubtful. If you or anyone else believe that you are blind. Who starts these threads with the sole purpose of causing fights and arguements? YOU, and Lakeisha....every time.

[EP75]

Doubtful. If you or anyone else believe that you are blind. Who starts these threads with the sole purpose of causing fights and arguements? YOU, and Lakeisha....every time.

You instigate and it shows everytime too.:cursing:

[rocknroll]

You instigate and it shows everytime too.:cursing:

Wrong, I just follow behind you, trying to sidestep the messes you create with your argumentative, race inflected rants.

[utmom2008]

Let's see, you have been a member since October of 2007 (this year) and Lakeisha and I have both been here much longer than that (me since March 2006) and yet most of your posts are aimed as attacks on her or me.:hmm:
You and Lakeisha ???? :lmfao::lmfao: That's a good one!! :D:D You only post on here to ignite people. You could care less about Elvis Presley, go on and admit it, we all know it! And...don't flatter yourself.....I have spent very little time on the likes of you two, or should I say "you one?" :lol::lol::lol: Anyone can look back at my posts and see for themselves..:D:D

[utmom2008]

Wrong, I just follow behind you, trying to sidestep the messes you create with your argumentative, race inflected rants.
(y)(y)(y)(y)

[presley31]

You and Lakeisha ???? :lmfao::lmfao: That's a good one!! :D:D You only post on here to ignite people. You could care less about Elvis Presley, go on and admit it, we all know it! And...don't flatter yourself.....I have spent very little time on the like of you two, or should I say "you one?" :lol::lol::lol:

There turth to this thread, my souce from memphis has said there is turth to this statement.

[rocknroll]

There turth to this thread, my souce from memphis has said there is turth to this statement.

What is "turth".

I have no problem with the area around Graceland being cleaned up, as I have stated before in at least one of the 123 threads started about this subject. The problem everyone has with this crap is the fact that there are 123 threads about it. Geez, give it a rest. Let's pick up the discussion when they ACTUALLY START THE GROUND BREAKING.

[utmom2008]

Thank's for explaining the difference between apples and oranges,
especially your description of Disney. What I still think of Disney is,
it's a tacky crap enterprise attracting kids from 2 to 13 with their
cheap attractions, who has only one thing in mind: Money.
The only good thing is that the former residents of Whiteheaven,
the prostitutes, dealer, junkies and other criminals will certainly get
a new good job at Sillerman's Elvis Theme Park (y).
And I really hope everything's ok with my IQ :blink:
(y)(y)(y)(y) Well said!

[presley31]

What is "turth".

I have no problem with the area around Graceland being cleaned up, as I have stated before in at least one of the 123 threads started about this subject. The problem everyone has with this crap is the fact that there are 123 threads about it. Geez, give it a rest. Let's pick up the discussion when they ACTUALLY START THE GROUND BREAKING.

Nothing is happeing to graceland itself, just outside of graceland, hotel and a walkway to graceland.

[rocknroll]

Nothing is happeing to graceland itself, just outside of graceland, hotel and a walkway to graceland.

That's what "area around Graceland" means.

[presley31]

There is some truth to it. They will be upgrading the visitors center, and building a museum. And cleaning up the area - stuff like that, and most of the things they mentioned are most likely going to happen. Though, last I heard -officially- the city council won't be taking a vote until mid '08 or something like that, could be wrong. Ah, just read the article again, it's simply a resolution to show support. The main resolution won't be till mid '08 most likely. The current resolution is a "Throw away" multi-purpose one like 'All in favor of this idea -----" blah blah blah...

The main thing to keep in mind is that according to federal law they cannot modify the house itself.. Which is a good thing obviously. I say "Good for them" if it means it will make the area around Graceland safer, and more inviting. As long as it doesn't turn into a circus that is

This is from someone from memphis and see more than we do.

[keke23]

There is some truth to it. They will be upgrading the visitors center, and building a museum. And cleaning up the area - stuff like that, and most of the things they mentioned are most likely going to happen. Though, last I heard -officially- the city council won't be taking a vote until mid '08 or something like that, could be wrong. Ah, just read the article again, it's simply a resolution to show support. The main resolution won't be till mid '08 most likely. The current resolution is a "Throw away" multi-purpose one like 'All in favor of this idea -----" blah blah blah...

The main thing to keep in mind is that according to federal law they cannot modify the house itself.. Which is a good thing obviously. I say "Good for them" if it means it will make the area around Graceland safer, and more inviting. As long as it doesn't turn into a circus that is

This is from someone from Memphis and see more than we do.

The final 3 readins won't be delayed until mid 08, I can assure you that.

From what I was told yesterday, the upcomin meetin this week with the council and EPE will be a support backin the plans publicly.

That'll allow EPE/Sillerman to go ahead with their ideas and plans instead if delayin for the new council to handle.

It's got a lot to do with pride as well. The current city council wants to go out by bein able to say one day that they made all this happen.

Then, they'll let the new city council deal with the paper work and readings for the rezonin area in early 08.

That will probably happen before anything else gets rezoned in Memphis.

The Graceland/Whitehaven redevelopment project is #1 on the city's plan lists for urban redevelopment.

There's about 6 other redevelopment plans on the table for the city includin the fairgrounds and the stadium issue.

I'm hearin that the readings for the Graceland area should be done by February or early March at the latest with groundbreakin happenin no later than June 08.

The quicker Sillerman gets the readings done, the quicker he can begin construction on phase 1.

[ksimms2]

I've been to Graceland, in June of this year as a matter of fact. Yes I was disappointed with the surrounding area, it was certainly run down. We stayed at Heartbreak Hotel and we had a good time. I think the plaza is fine just the way it is - and there is already the museums, so not sure why they are adding more? More restaurants, yes, and a walkway over to Graceland, yes, but other than that - don't see why they are doing it. The local government needs to step it up to get rid of the ones doing the crimes somehow.......maybe just updating everything is okay? I guess Bob Sillerman will run the other smaller Elvis businesses out of town then?

[keke23]

The setup they got now is ghetto lookin and outdated.

Everyone I know says that.

Folks been sayin for awhile that they need to tear it down and come with somethin new.

Fortunately that's their plan.

[Latte]

The setup they got now is ghetto lookin and outdated.

Everyone I know says that.

Folks been sayin for awhile that they need to tear it down and come with somethin new.

Fortunately that's their plan.

The ghetto look is what makes it nostalgic to me, Im not into the cookie cutter strip mall, every thing looks perfect thing.
But thats just me.

[Latte]

"the former residents of Whiteheaven,
the prostitutes, dealer, junkies and other criminals.." someone said,

Well they cant all be like this, and i have to think, where are the so-called "former residents of Whiteheaven, the prostitutes and junkies and criminals" gonna go?
hmm.. I dont think Elvis would want destitute people moved out of their residences just for urban planning to make Graceland look better.
Where are they gonna go? Is there a plan for that? Just wondering.

[presley31]

When l take my kid to graceland l don't want to see any drug dealers or prostitutes hanging out. Won't go till things are more safe in that area.

[Awickedreigndrop]

Wicked, some folks don't know the difference between apples and oranges.

The "Disney" reference is got more to do with Graceland becomin as popular of an attraction on a scale with what Disney is today.

It aint gonna be an amusement park. Disney's basically a family style resort with multiple attractions.

That's Sillerman's plan for the whole area. He's got no plans to turn it into an Elvis theme park

I posted this way back last year at E1 forum.

It's gonna be a themed attraction with museums, restaurants, and shops, like Disney has.

As my friend/source put it......a museum complex designed like a theme park but with no rides.

It's mind bogglin to see most folks here can't comprehend that and still say they don't wanna see an amusement park at Graceland.

And they question my IQ? LMBAO

Thanks for clearing this up! (y) Maybe one of the restaurants will be a new Elvis Presley's Memphis? Ok, I'm hoping:lmfao: All the times I've been to Memphis never been there. Well, I been there once, I was with my cousin who lives in Memphis and it was no more than five minutes. Sorry a bit OT

[keke23]

Thanks for clearing this up! (y) Maybe one of the restaurants will be a new Elvis Presley's Memphis? Ok, I'm hoping:lmfao: All the times I've been to Memphis never been there. Well, I been there once, I was with my cousin who lives in Memphis and it was no more than five minutes. Sorry a bit OT

No problem, glad I could help.

I asked my friend, who's in the know about the plans, if there's gonna be another EPM restaurant, and he told me he didn't know, but that upscale theme restaurants are in the plan.

So maybe so.:D

Where does your cousin live? What part of town?

[Awickedreigndrop]

No problem, glad I could help.

I asked my friend, who's in the know about the plans, if there's gonna be another EPM restaurant, and he told me he didn't know, but that upscale theme restaurants are in the plan.

So maybe so.:D

Where does your cousin live? What part of town?

Shelby County I think. I know we take a right off of Lamar Ave onto Winchester(From New Albany, MS) to get to her house. Not too far from The Sonic Drive In. I have a few more cousins that live in Millington, TN. A lot of my family live in Tennessee, Mississppi, and Arkansas. Idk how my parents ended up in Wisconsin:lol:

[Miss Clawdy]

"the former residents of Whiteheaven,
the prostitutes, dealer, junkies and other criminals.." someone said,

Well they cant all be like this, and i have to think, where are the so-called "former residents of Whiteheaven, the prostitutes and junkies and criminals" gonna go?
hmm.. I dont think Elvis would want destitute people moved out of their residences just for urban planning to make Graceland look better.
Where are they gonna go? Is there a plan for that? Just wondering.

I said that. And what you say is exactly what I meant.
Looks like there was plenty of money for various reintegration plans,
around 10 billion $ .... :hmm:. Obviously turning Whitehaven into an
amusement park solves all the problems with criminality they have :blink:.


When l take my kid to graceland l don't want to see any drug dealers or prostitutes hanging out. Won't go till things are more safe in that area.

You will find those people in every city, unfortunatelly only few of those
cities have their own Sillerman to build a Disney World for them ;).

[presley31]

I said that. And what you say is exactly what I meant.
Looks like there was plenty of money for various reintegration plans,
around 10 billion $ .... :hmm:. Obviously turning Whitehaven into an
amusement park solves all the problems with criminality they have :blink:.



You will find those people in every city, unfortunatelly only few of those
cities have their own Sillerman to build a Disney World for them ;).

I know they happen at every place, l live where there murders everyday, but still l won't take my kid to graceland till they clean up the area.

[keke23]

Yall, here's what went down this week at the City Council meetings.

Sillerman is puttin in way more money than was originally planned.

It was supposed to be anywhere from $200 M to $250 M. Now it's expected the cost could reach as high as $400 M before it's all done:supriced:

EPE aint gonna say right now how much the final cost will be because they don't want the fans to overreact. Fans overreact? :lol:

So far, the plans are a new 500-600 room hotel, a convention center (newly added to the plan), possibly an indoor amphitheater (bein considered instead of an outdoor amphitheater that was originally planned, although that could change), new museum and visitor center and complex, new street lighting and wider sidewalks, flags and Elvis banners, basically new everything!!

The city's bein asked to finance the infrastructure of the project which includes all street work, utilities, and cleanin up on EPB, tearin down bad areas, such as projects and run down business and sellin the land to new developers in the area.

Yall, Sillerman has more power than some of yall think. LMP gave him permission to do some things on the grounds, but nothin drastic.

They're gonna take up all the telephone poles and lines on the Graceland property and around the area and run it all underground.

They might be tearin out the original foundation side brick wall on the left of the mansion to run a new walk way up to the house for future tours.

The whole area to the left of Graceland gates will be completely revamped and where the new visitor center and complex will be. It's gonna be BIG....really BIG!!

There will definitely be a new entrance to Graceland.

There won't be anymore bussin and walkin across the street.

Taxes won't be affected by this.

It's mostly private funded with Government financial support.

Sillerman is payin 3/4 of the project himself.

It's gonna be the city's largest private investment in city history.

American Idol could be tied into it as well.:hmm:

The city is so behind the project now that tax dollars won't be raised in any way, that they are optimistic the new CC will pass the readings to approve rezonin.

Those readings should happen within the first of the year and groundbreaking could begin as early as mid February 08.:clap:

This is an unbelievable time and opportunity for Elvis, Graceland, and most importantly......Whitehaven in general.

I told yall months ago what was about to happen. Jay posted it here and on his blog back then and yall called us both liars.

Ahhhh......it's so cool havin folks in high places.:D

[utmom2008]

Yall, here's what went down this week at the City Council meetings.

Sillerman is puttin in way more money than was originally planned.

It was supposed to be anywhere from $200 M to $250 M. Now it's expected the cost could reach as high as $400 M before it's all done:supriced:

EPE aint gonna say right now how much the final cost will be because they don't want the fans to overreact. Fans overreact? :lol:

So far, the plans are a new 500-600 room hotel, a convention center (newly added to the plan), possibly an indoor amphitheater (bein considered instead of an outdoor amphitheater that was originally planned, although that could change), new museum and visitor center and complex, new street lighting and wider sidewalks, flags and Elvis banners, basically new everything!!

The city's bein asked to finance the infrastructure of the project which includes all street work, utilities, and cleanin up on EPB, tearin down bad areas, such as projects and run down business and sellin the land to new developers in the area.

Yall, Sillerman has more power than some of yall think. LMP gave him permission to do some things on the grounds, but nothin drastic.

They're gonna take up all the telephone poles and lines on the Graceland property and around the area and run it all underground.

They might be tearin out the original foundation side brick wall on the left of the mansion to run a new walk way up to the house for future tours.

The whole area to the left of Graceland gates will be completely revamped and where the new visitor center and complex will be. It's gonna be BIG....really BIG!!

There will definitely be a new entrance to Graceland.

There won't be anymore bussin and walkin across the street.

Taxes won't be affected by this.

It's mostly private funded with Government financial support.

Sillerman is payin 3/4 of the project himself.

It's gonna be the city's largest private investment in city history.

American Idol could be tied into it as well.:hmm:

The city is so behind the project now that tax dollars won't be raised in any way, that they are optimistic the new CC will pass the readings to approve rezonin.

Those readings should happen within the first of the year and groundbreaking could begin as early as mid February 08.:clap:

This is an unbelievable time and opportunity for Elvis, Graceland, and most importantly......Whitehaven in general.

I told yall months ago what was about to happen. Jay posted it here and on his blog back then and yall called us both liars.

Ahhhh......it's so cool havin folks in high places.:D
So.....instead of a Disney theme, now we are talking American Idol???? Is Simon going to come and give his opinion of things?? Better still....are they going to hold auditions at Graceland??? Pleazzzzzzzzee! ;););)

[KPM]

Yall, here's what went down this week at the City Council meetings.

Sillerman is puttin in way more money than was originally planned.

It was supposed to be anywhere from $200 M to $250 M. Now it's expected the cost could reach as high as $400 M before it's all done:supriced:

EPE aint gonna say right now how much the final cost will be because they don't want the fans to overreact. Fans overreact? :lol:

So far, the plans are a new 500-600 room hotel, a convention center (newly added to the plan), possibly an indoor amphitheater (bein considered instead of an outdoor amphitheater that was originally planned, although that could change), new museum and visitor center and complex, new street lighting and wider sidewalks, flags and Elvis banners, basically new everything!!

The city's bein asked to finance the infrastructure of the project which includes all street work, utilities, and cleanin up on EPB, tearin down bad areas, such as projects and run down business and sellin the land to new developers in the area.

Yall, Sillerman has more power than some of yall think. LMP gave him permission to do some things on the grounds, but nothin drastic.They're gonna take up all the telephone poles and lines on the Graceland property and around the area and run it all underground.

They might be tearin out the original foundation side brick wall on the left of the mansion to run a new walk way up to the house for future tours.

The whole area to the left of Graceland gates will be completely revamped and where the new visitor center and complex will be. It's gonna be BIG....really BIG!!

There will definitely be a new entrance to Graceland.

There won't be anymore bussin and walkin across the street.

Taxes won't be affected by this.

It's mostly private funded with Government financial support.

Sillerman is payin 3/4 of the project himself.

It's gonna be the city's largest private investment in city history.

American Idol could be tied into it as well.:hmm:

The city is so behind the project now that tax dollars won't be raised in any way, that they are optimistic the new CC will pass the readings to approve rezonin.

Those readings should happen within the first of the year and groundbreaking could begin as early as mid February 08.:clap:

This is an unbelievable time and opportunity for Elvis, Graceland, and most importantly......Whitehaven in general.

I told yall months ago what was about to happen. Jay posted it here and on his blog back then and yall called us both liars.

Ahhhh......it's so cool havin folks in high places.:D
IMO I'm sure if she did not agree with the changes-she would not allow them.
Power has nothing to do with it I'm sure. It implies that Sillerman somehow "Godfathered" her into agreeing. I don't think thats the case.
Its like I said I'm all for drawing more young people and people in general.
But its not worth worrying about. If it happens and its for the "good of Graceland" fine by me. Projects like this do not happen overnight and in the mean time things can happen which can change the situation totally.
In my area a friend lived near an intersection where a new highway was suppose to come through. To make a long story short he worried that they were going to need his house and land-they finally made him an offer and bought the house-"5 years after the proposals were first introduced". The highway took 9 years to complete and it ended up they did not need his land to start with plus several others on that corner.

[Getlo]

Yall, here's what went down this week at the City Council meetings.

Ahhhh......it's so cool havin folks in high places.:D

Forty-two lines of this post ... with no source.

Again.

Any chance of posting one, or are we expected to take you at your word here?

[presley31]

Billionaire Plans to Spend Millions on Graceland.


MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WHBQ FOX13 myfoxmemphis.com) -- The process for renovating Graceland officially kicks off Tuesday and more money than originally thought is expected to be invested in Elvis' Memphis home.

The name "Elvis Presley" and the rights to Graceland are owned by billionaire businessman Robert Sillerman.

Tuesday the Memphis City Council plans to clear the way for Sillerman to make more than $200 million worth of improvements near Elvis' Memphis mansion.


Watch the video:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=BCBE459371F9912A6998FF212B8B4F6A ?contentId=5113719&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1



2007/12/07 www.myfoxmemphis.com / www.epgold.com

[presley31]

From: "Media@elvis.com" <media@elvis.com> Add to Address Book
To: jenniferbackstrom@rogers.com
CC: "graceland" <graceland@elvis.com>
Subject: RE: Changes at graceland
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:32:31 -0600
Yes, there's truth to it, but initial and follow-up news coverage since our 2006 announcement of our plans for the future of the Graceland visitor center properties has been misleading at times - for instance, suggesting that we're remodeling the mansion and original grounds, which is not true. This FAQ item we posted on Elvis.com some time ago should clarify things and calm any concerns you might have: http://www.elvis.com/news/full_story.asp?id=980 . Also, there are a couple of articles posted in News Archive on the site that are accurate. A June 2007 article: http://www.elvis.com/news/full_story.asp?id=1295 . An August 2007 article: http://www.elvis.com/news/full_story.asp?id=1260 .

Thanks & best.








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From: Jennifer Backstrom [mailto:jenniferbackstrom@rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:01 PM
To: marketing
Subject: Changes at graceland



Hello. My name is Jennifer

My question is this is a rumor going on about changes in memphis by graceland. I'am wondering if theres any turth to this matter??



Heres the infor.. Thank youCouncil looks to leave lasting legacy with Graceland plan.


Elvis Presley, an icon in his time and the most famous person to come out of Memphis, would no doubt be excited about future plans for his former home.

New Yorker Bob Sillerman wants to make Graceland into a mega-resort like Disney World- or maybe Elvis World. To support his idea, Sillerman is pumping more than $200 million into the area around Graceland mansion.

Next week, the Memphis City Council hopes to pass a resolution showing support of the project.

"Perhaps streetscape, trees, lighting, banners..that have different messages to talk about things that are Elvis like," said City Council member Tom Marshall.

Right now, the plan calls for a hotel and convention center, a walkway to the Graceland mansion, retail shops, and restaurants on more than 100 acres Sillerman's group bought from owners of properties surrounding Graceland .

"I know they have been pretty fair about what they bought this property for," said Baba Makki, who leases property near Graceland . "I know the owner of this place. I think they paid him a good price."

Marshall is enthusiastic about the project. "It's going to be a rebirth of the Whitehaven area," he said.

Marshall insists the City Council has studied the issue and wants to be the first to pass a resolution supporting it. Future councils will have to discuss zoning, tax abatements, and incentives, but the current crop of city leaders want to be the first on-board.

"That is the greatest draw to Memphis from an international point of view, and I think it is going to be extremely exciting," Marshall said.

Exciting for Memphis and the millions of fans who visit Graceland each year.

Marshall said Memphians should not expect to see the project funded by a tax hike.


Watch the wmctv video clip Graceland legacy:

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7435396

[tilly01]

and you can bet sillermann will put the prices so normal fans can't afford to go there:angry::angry:
Forty-two lines of this post ... with no source.

Again.

Any chance of posting one, or are we expected to take you at your word here?

[Getlo]

Yall, Sillerman has more power than some of yall think. LMP gave him permission to do some things on the grounds, but nothin drastic.


our plans for the future of the Graceland visitor center properties has been misleading at times - for instance, suggesting that we're remodeling the mansion and original grounds, which is not true.

Lakeisha, Lakeisha, Lakeisha ...

This really is getting beyond a joke now.

Thanks for posting EPE's responses, presley31.

[presley31]

Lakeisha, Lakeisha, Lakeisha ...

This really is getting beyond a joke now.

Thanks for posting EPE's responses, presley31.

your welcome

[rocknroll]

Lakeisha, Lakeisha, Lakeisha ...

This really is getting beyond a joke now.

Thanks for posting EPE's responses, presley31.

So we are sayign Lakeisha's "sources" are not correct? And to think she gloated for nothing.(y)

[rocknroll]

So far, the plans are a new 500-600 room hotel, a convention center (newly added to the plan), possibly an indoor amphitheater (bein considered instead of an outdoor amphitheater that was originally planned, although that could change), new museum and visitor center and complex, new street lighting and wider sidewalks, flags and Elvis banners, basically new everything!!

If this is all it is, I can live with it.

[keke23]

Lakeisha, Lakeisha, Lakeisha ...

This really is getting beyond a joke now.

Thanks for posting EPE's responses, presley31.
Did I ever say they were gonna remodel Graceland? No I didn't, so stop puttin words in my mouth.

I said that the area around it was gonna be revamped. Jay's the one who posted that Sillerman wanted to remodel, not me.

Yall need to get yo eyes checked, lol.

EPE even said there's truth to what's been rumored.

They were referrin to the original news media reports sayin it was gonna be a theme park.

It aint gonna be a theme park, but it's gonna be a thematic attraction. Just wait and see for yourself.

So, once gain....I was right about all that I posted for the past year and a half now.

Holla:D

[keke23]

If this is all it is, I can live with it.

There's gonna be a retail and entertainment complex with dining and possibly live music as well.

[Suzan]

Lakeisha, Lakeisha, Lakeisha ...

This really is getting beyond a joke now.

Thanks for posting EPE's responses, presley31.

I agree Getlo LOL
And my my my how the story changes...went from disney theme to really not, to American Idol...jeez LOL
Also the hotel, convention, etc...nothing new, this has been in the news for months.
And according to EPE no new plan for another Elvis Presley's Memphis restaurant, @ the old EPM there is a new owner and Elvis name in the restaurants name but not themed as EPM was so that lays that to rest. :)

[utmom2008]

It aint gonna be a theme park, but it's gonna be a thematic attraction. Just wait and see for yourself

And the difference is???????????

[Suzan]

And the difference is???????????


Again surrounding area not Graceland, good grief. LOL
I like how the story (theme) thing changes when other claims debunked.

[presley31]

And the difference is???????????

read my post from epe and see its not going to be a big thing.

[keke23]

IMO I'm sure if she did not agree with the changes-she would not allow them.
Power has nothing to do with it I'm sure. It implies that Sillerman somehow "Godfathered" her into agreeing. I don't think thats the case.
Its like I said I'm all for drawing more young people and people in general.
But its not worth worrying about. If it happens and its for the "good of Graceland" fine by me. Projects like this do not happen overnight and in the mean time things can happen which can change the situation totally.
In my area a friend lived near an intersection where a new highway was suppose to come through. To make a long story short he worried that they were going to need his house and land-they finally made him an offer and bought the house-"5 years after the proposals were first introduced". The highway took 9 years to complete and it ended up they did not need his land to start with plus several others on that corner.


There's a difference.

That was a government project that you referred to.

This is a private funded project, meanin the city is backin it 100%.

This week's meetings were the ignition of makin this a reality.

It aint gonna fall through.

It's GUARANTEED now!

It definitely won't take no 9 years as what you were referrin to. It'll be done, accordin to EPE tellin the CC, in about 2 years minimum and 4 years max.

Construction and redevelopment could begin as early as mid February.
That's what EPE told the council that they hope for, that I was told.

The thing that a lot of fans aren't mentionin is all the loud noises and interruptions that'll be goin on when folks visit Graceland for the next couple of year because of construction.

The HH is comin down, possibly soon. So where are folks gonna stay?

They'll eventually have to shut down parts of the current plaza to remove all the displays into the new center across the street when it opens.

No mention yet of if the planes will be indoors or out.

They should put them indoors. It aint like they aint got the money or space now, lol.

[Suzan]

read my post from epe and see its not going to be a big thing.

Thank you they told me same thing...:)

[presley31]

There's a difference.

That was a government project that you referred to.

This is a private funded project, meanin the city is backin it 100%.

This week's meetings were the ignition of makin this a reality.

It aint gonna fall through.

It's GUARANTEED now!

It definitely won't take no 9 years as what you were referrin to. It'll be done, accordin to EPE tellin the CC, in about 2 years minimum and 4 years max.

Construction and redevelopment could begin as early as mid February.
That's what EPE told the council that they hope for, that I was told.

The thing that a lot of fans aren't mentionin is all the loud noises and interruptions that'll be goin on when folks visit Graceland for the next couple of year because of construction.

The HH is comin down, possibly soon. So where are folks gonna stay?

They'll eventually have to shut down parts of the current plaza to remove all the displays into the new center across the street when it opens.

No mention yet of if the planes will be indoors or out.

They should put them indoors. It aint like they aint got the money or space now, lol.

you wouldn't have such a big problem here if you just post a email or souce where you information coming from

[presley31]

Thank you they told me same thing...:)

your welcome, l was wating for you to post something cause you have souces inside,but l had to find out what was happening.

[Suzan]

your welcome, l was wating for you to post something cause you have souces inside,but l had to find out what was happening.

No prob. I did post once, don't know where it went, plus not been here lately. :)

[keke23]

I agree Getlo LOL
And my my my how the story changes...went from disney theme to really not, to American Idol...jeez LOL
Also the hotel, convention, etc...nothing new, this has been in the news for months.
And according to EPE no new plan for another Elvis Presley's Memphis restaurant, @ the old EPM there is a new owner and Elvis name in the restaurants name but not themed as EPM was so that lays that to rest. :)

OMG...what are you talkin about????? Where did I mention anything about EPM? It aint there no more. Some sushi place is there now.

I'm pretty sure there'll be some type of Elvis themed restaurant in the new plans.

The American idol reference was that the show itself might be comin to Memphis with a possible tie-in with the new plans for elimination round or finale. Hello.....Sillerman's financial partner is Simon Fuller, who created AI.

As for the hotel, convention, etc comment.....the original plans were just a CONVENTION HOTEL, not a hotel AND convention center.

In case you didn't know, a convention hotel aint a convention center, lol

The convention center was news to everyone, includin Tom Marshall.

The new center plans is what is raisin the price now.

I don't know for certain what Silerman's gonna build NEXT to Graceland. But it's gonna be BIG as in size and price. That I do know.

I told yall a long time ago, even at the E1 forum, that all the Disney reference was more about it's world famous popularity and they wanna see Graceland get THAT big as far as popularity goes with tourism to the area.

It don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. :blink::doh:

[presley31]

I don't mind a few changes outside of graceland but no Disneyland.

[utmom2008]

read my post from epe and see its not going to be a big thing.
:lol: :lol: I know, my point was what is the difference in a "theme park" and a "thematic attraction"?? None...I'm presuming. ')')

[keke23]

And the difference is???????????

There's a BIG diffefrnece.

A theme park is basically an amusement park with thrill rised of a theme.

A thematic, or themed attraction, can be anything that attracts folks with a theme that doesn't require rides.:doh:

Sillerman's plannin some type of hi tech museum complex. That's all I know right now.

[keke23]

your welcome, l was wating for you to post something cause you have souces inside,but l had to find out what was happening.

PLEEEEEASE.

She aint got no source, accept for emailin EPE and botherin them to get her info.

Are some fo yall not aware that they literrally lied about not buyin up homes behind Gracelnad, and now Sillerman's been buyin up houses left and right.

She aint even in memphis, and I am. So how's she gonna know what was said and what wasn't at the mettin? Think abotu that.

The reaosn I don't pass out my source' email is because I didn that once and folks harassed him and he was tellin me to chill out with what I was goin back and postin. He din't know I do that anymore.

He aint got time to check message boards to see what folks are sayin. He aint even a fan. He's mroe interested because of the impact it'll have on OUR community more than anything else.

Plus, he's related to the most powerful black family in the history of Memphis politics. If you know who I'm referrin to, then you'd understand my silence on who he is.;)

And btw, the changes will be monster big, nothin little or small at all. That's all I know.

[utmom2008]

Are some fo yall not aware that they literrally lied about not buyin up homes behind Gracelnad, and now Sillerman's been buyin up houses left and right.

She aint even in memphis, and I am. So how's she gonna know what was said and what wasn't at the mettin? Think abotu that.

The reaosn I don't pass out my source' email is because I didn that once and folks harassed him and he was tellin me to chill out with what I was goin back and postin. He din't know I do that anymore.


What????? I can't even read some of that...;) Slow down Lakeisha....take your time. ;);) :lol:

[presley31]

I just posted proof what was happeing, can't get any more clear than that.

[utmom2008]

I just posted proof what was happeing, can't get any more clear than that.
Thank you. My post was for Lakeisha.....;););)

[presley31]

Thank you. My post was for Lakeisha.....;););)

my post was for Lakeisha too.:blush:

[keke23]

Presley31, The exact thing you posted says nothin about "small changes" to the area.

They even admit the rumors are true.

All they say aint true is what I've been sayin all along.

[Suzan]

OMG...what are you talkin about????? Where did I mention anything about EPM? It aint there no more. Some sushi place is there now.

I'm pretty sure there'll be some type of Elvis themed restaurant in the new plans.

The American idol reference was that the show itself might be comin to Memphis with a possible tie-in with the new plans for elimination round or finale. Hello.....Sillerman's financial partner is Simon Fuller, who created AI.

As for the hotel, convention, etc comment.....the original plans were just a CONVENTION HOTEL, not a hotel AND convention center.

In case you didn't know, a convention hotel aint a convention center, lol

The convention center was news to everyone, includin Tom Marshall.

The new center plans is what is raisin the price now.

I don't know for certain what Silerman's gonna build NEXT to Graceland. But it's gonna be BIG as in size and price. That I do know.

I told yall a long time ago, even at the E1 forum, that all the Disney reference was more about it's world famous popularity and they wanna see Graceland get THAT big as far as popularity goes with tourism to the area.

It don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. :blink::doh:

I wasn't addressing the restaurant thing to you.

If there is a restaurant it will be where "Walk A Mile" is now, IF that 's in plans but according to what EPE has said to me no such plans for another Elvis restaurant in plans, nor did Sillerman's reps say there was either.

[Suzan]

BTW I've not ever spoken to you on the EI forum :D

[presley31]

The exact thing you posted says nothin about "small changes" tot he area.

They even admit the rumors are true.

All they say aint true is what I've been sayin all along.

without the proof people won't believe you, and l shouldn't had to get Epe to email me, you shouldn't of showed the proof in the first place after talking about the changes. Not going to argue with you about this, we got the EPE words end of story.

[keke23]

Susan, the Walk A Mile thing along with the plaza is comin down. That's already been clarified.

Sillerman's got restaurants and retail all in his plan. Maybe not an actual EPM replica. But soemthin is bein planned, trust me. Oh I forgot...you don't, lol.

Presley31, I aint tryin to argue with you. I just said what you posted that EPE replied to aint sayin nothin new and it aint sayin it's not gonna be a big project.

Who spend $300 M on soemthin that aint big? Come on folks....use yalls heads, geez.

[keke23]

without the proof people won't believe you, and l shouldn't had to get Epe to email me, you shouldn't of showed the proof in the first place after talking about the changes. Not going to argue with you about this, we got the EPE words end of story.

Well then, that's their loss. Because at the end of the day, I'll be the one sayin I told yall so.:lmfao:

[utmom2008]

Come on folks....use yalls heads, geez.

Lakeisha.........now THAT is funny!:lmfao::D;)

[presley31]

More information from EPE.

FAQs About Recent Announcements Regarding The Future Of Graceland 3/16/2006
For many, many years, members of the Elvis Presley Enterprises management team, including Priscilla Presley and Lisa Marie Presley, have dreamed of building visitor center, hotel and Elvis exhibition facilities far superior to the nice facilities we have developed thus far. Today, with the resources and leadership available to EPE with its new parent company, CKX, headed by Robert F.X. Sillerman, it appears that our dreams could be coming true very soon. We anticipate much of it could be completed within three years. Recent news coverage of CKX/EPE’s plans for the future of the Graceland properties has been inaccurate and misleading. Reporters misconstrued some of the information they were given. Here, we answer the most frequently asked questions from Elvis fans and our colleagues in the tourism industry.

Will Graceland tours close temporarily during the development of the new facilities? No. Graceland tour operations will not be interrupted at any time as a result of the construction.

Will the Heartbreak Hotel on the Graceland complex be closing soon to make way for the new hotel? No. The proposed new hotel could be as much as three years in development. Heartbreak Hotel will continue in full operation at least until the new hotel opens, and it is possible that Heartbreak Hotel could continue operating on a permanent basis after that. We recently completed another round of upgrades to Heartbreak Hotel for the comfort and enjoyment of our guests and are about to start work on a new second elevator to supplement the operation of the existing one. We will continue to make the unique experience of staying at Heartbreak Hotel a pleasure for all our guests.

Will there continue to be new and exciting exhibits added to the Graceland experience between now and when the new exhibit facilities open? Absolutely. Each season, as always, there will be something new to see as items rotate in and out of our primary exhibits at Graceland Mansion that present the story of Elvis’s life and career, and in the annual re-theming of our Sincerely Elvis Museum across the street in Graceland Plaza. This year’s new exhibit for Sincerely Elvis just opened. It is called Elvis ’56 and it takes a month-by-month look at the year Elvis Presley was catapulted to superstardom. Also just opened is a new exhibit in the Graceland Crossing shopping center called Elvis After Dark, which is themed around the nightlife of Elvis in his personal and professional life.

Is opening the upstairs for tours part of the plan for the Graceland tour experience? No. Our company policy and the personal policy of Graceland Mansion’s sole owner, Lisa Marie Presley, is that the upstairs is to remain private. See our regular FAQ item about this matter.

Will there be new construction on the Graceland Mansion grounds or any remodeling of the house? No. Our goal and our sacred responsibility is to preserve the Graceland Mansion and grounds and maintain their historical integrity forever. One change in the tour experience once the planned new museum opens in our new visitor center is that we will have the space to present the story of Elvis’s life and career in greater context, so the trophy room and the racquetball court at the mansion no longer will be needed for that purpose. The trophy room then can be used for special Elvis exhibits yet to be determined and the racquetball court can return to its original look.

References have been made to Disneyland or Disney World in descriptions of the new development of the visitor center properties. Does that mean Graceland is about to be surrounded by a theme park setting including rides? Some media coverage has suggested there might be a Vegas or hotel casino type of look – is that true? No. Any references that have been made to Disney have been because Disney is thought of as setting and maintaining the platinum standard for beautiful visitor facilities and outstanding guest service. Some press misconstrued that. And any suggestions that we are going for a Vegas type of look are pure fabrication. Our goal with the new development of our visitor center properties is to create an elegant, beautiful atmosphere for the Graceland visitor experience.

Will the Elvis Radio/Sirius 13 studio booth in Graceland Plaza go away because of the new development? Someday the booth could be relocated somewhere else on our visitor center property, but that will not happen anytime soon. Elvis is the only artist with his own full-time radio station and ElvisRadio on Sirius Channel 13 has become one of the best ways fans around the world celebrate Elvis. The dee-jays will continue to create their popular shows and the booth will continue to be one of the must-visit stops when visiting Graceland.

Will the Graceland Plaza visitor center - including the Elvis Presley Automobile Museum and the Elvis airplanes exhibit - and the Graceland Crossing shopping center go away? Eventually, most or possibly all of the structures on these properties will be removed to make way for new facilities. But, that will not happen anytime soon. Whether the automobile exhibit and airplanes will remain in their current locations or be moved elsewhere on our complex remains to be determined. The current Graceland Plaza and Graceland Crossing and all the shops and attractions there will remain in full, uninterrupted operation for a good while to come and we will continue to maintain and refine these properties in the meantime.

There have been statements about possible improvements to the neighborhood that the Graceland complex is part of. What’s that about? On February 23, 2006, CKX chief Robert F.X. Sillerman, with the supportive presence of Tennessee Congressman and Senate candidate Harold Ford, Jr. and EPE CEO Jack Soden, reached out to local business and government leaders at a breakfast meeting of the Memphis Chamber of Commerce with some basic information about our plans. Then, Sillerman, Ford and Soden had meetings with Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, Shelby County Mayor A.C. Wharton, and some key business leaders. The goal was to garner the support of the local government and business community for the Graceland developments and to inspire them to redevelop and revitalize the area leading up to and surrounding the Graceland complex. Community revitalization efforts in recent years, although successful to some degree, have been slow. Our hope is that the CKX/EPE major reinvestment in the Graceland complex will touch off a faster paced beautification and revitalization of the whole neighborhood. This would be a pleasure for Elvis fans and others visiting Graceland and, of course, could do wonders for the economy of our community and the betterment of the lives of our neighbors.

When will more details be available and how can I be in the loop? We are in the very preliminary planning stages at this time and our plans and decisions are continually evolving. What we have stated thus far is a general overview of our intentions. Over the course of these next few years of development we will share with you as often as possible any available updates, including drawings, photos, etc., along with information about development in the surrounding neighborhood. The postings will be in News here on Elvis.com. Each time we post an update article, we will issue an alert via our free e-newsletters service, so do please sign up for the newsletters so you won’t miss any of the information and excitement. Periodically, members of the Elvis Insiders will be treated to special advance information and images on their members-only message board.

[Johnny]

Thanks presley31, as EPE is the only source that I trust


Mods, it's way past this thread's bedtime

[KPM]

There's a difference.

That was a government project that you referred to.

This is a private funded project, meanin the city is backin it 100%.This week's meetings were the ignition of makin this a reality.

It aint gonna fall through.

It's GUARANTEED now!

It definitely won't take no 9 years as what you were referrin to. It'll be done, accordin to EPE tellin the CC, in about 2 years minimum and 4 years max.
Construction and redevelopment could begin as early as mid February.
That's what EPE told the council that they hope for, that I was told.

The thing that a lot of fans aren't mentionin is all the loud noises and interruptions that'll be goin on when folks visit Graceland for the next couple of year because of construction.

The HH is comin down, possibly soon. So where are folks gonna stay?

They'll eventually have to shut down parts of the current plaza to remove all the displays into the new center across the street when it opens.

No mention yet of if the planes will be indoors or out.

They should put them indoors. It aint like they aint got the money or space now, lol.
I beg to respectfully disagree with you- any building project in the country whether fully funded by the government or private funded is monitored by the local and federal officials. Every step of the way any where construction is going on regular inspections of all types- electrical , plumbing, sewage, building materials, code abatement problems, ground testing for any hazardous materials not known because homes were built on them before the country worried about such things, and on and on.... Just because the city of Memphis has signed on for this deal-does not stop all of that. All of these things slow down construction- when problems are found in any of these areas they have to be corrected and reinspected before construction can continue. Sometimes plans have to be altered because of cost overuns -due to inspections. You can be talking to the most "inside powerful man in Memphis" and he can say 4 years tops-but he is taking an educated guess on "best case scenario"
I have some experience in large building projects. It was "privately funded" 127 acres developed into a retirement communtity. The plans were approved by city, county, and state. The contractors gave a tentative time of 3 years to build 44 duplexes, 2 apartment buildings with 50 large 2 bedroom apartments and 20 patio apartments per unit and private roads for all the developement- connected to the city roads. It took 5 years and still it was not complete-but it could be opened to start leasing the units done in that 5 year span.
This project is on a much grander scale than the one I was involved in.
If it runs smooth as silk-no problems at all I'd guess at least 5 years. If it has a lot of problems-who knows. It may end up being finished as the complex I described-some things done and opened while others are still being built. I am not trying to argue with you I am trying to point out it will happen in its own time depending on literally hundreds of things involved. The city signing on to the project was the easiest part. IMO.

[Suzan]

Whatever L. you've no proof of your claims and look again what I said about Walk A Mile I never said it was staying. LOL

Thank you Presley31 I was abotu to post the same darn thing LOL

[utmom2008]

I beg to respectfully disagree with you- any building project in the country whether fully funded by the government or private funded is monitored by the local and federal officials. Every step of the way any where construction is going on regular inspections of all types- electrical , plumbing, sewage, building materials, code abatement problems, ground testing for any hazardous materials not known because homes were built on them before the country worried about such things, and on and on.... Just because the city of Memphis has signed on for this deal-does not stop all of that. All of these things slow down construction- when problems are found in any of these areas they have to be corrected and reinspected before construction can continue. Sometimes plans have to be altered because of cost overuns -due to inspections. You can be talking to the most "inside powerful man in Memphis" and he can say 4 years tops-but he is taking an educated guess on "best case scenario"
I have some experience in large building projects. It was "privately funded" 127 acres developed into a retirement communtity. The plans were approved by city, county, and state. The contractors gave a tentative time of 3 years to build 44 duplexes, 2 apartment buildings with 50 large 2 bedroom apartments and 20 patio apartments per unit and private roads for all the developement- connected to the city roads. It took 5 years and still it was not complete-but it could be opened to start leasing the units done in that 5 year span.
This project is on a much grander scale than the one I was involved in.
If it runs smooth as silk-no problems at all I'd guess at least 5 years. If it has a lot of problems-who knows. It may end up being finished as the complex I described-some things done and opened while others are still being built. I am not trying to argue with you I am trying to point out it will happen in its own time depending on literally hundreds of things involved. The city signing on to the project was the easiest part. IMO.
Thank you KPM. (y)(y)(y)(y) My father and my brother have both been builders of large scale productions...Hotels, Malls, etc....Every word of your post rings true! (y)(y)

[presley31]

Whatever L. you've no proof of your claims and look again what I said about Walk A Mile I never said it was staying. LOL

Thank you Presley31 I was abotu to post the same darn thing LOL

hehehe sorry:blush:

[Suzan]

Exactly! On top of which Sillerman obtained a corporate welfare fund (how that was managed I've no idea as he's a multi billionaire) but anyway, yes all that was said by KPM is correct as we have a construction/finish carpentry business.:)

[Suzan]

hehehe sorry:blush:

No reason to be sorry...at least it got posted doesn't matter by whom.(y)

[rocknroll]

Again I'll say this; no it's not

LMMFWAO

:):):)

[keke23]

I beg to respectfully disagree with you- any building project in the country whether fully funded by the government or private funded is monitored by the local and federal officials. Every step of the way any where construction is going on regular inspections of all types- electrical , plumbing, sewage, building materials, code abatement problems, ground testing for any hazardous materials not known because homes were built on them before the country worried about such things, and on and on.... Just because the city of Memphis has signed on for this deal-does not stop all of that. All of these things slow down construction- when problems are found in any of these areas they have to be corrected and reinspected before construction can continue. Sometimes plans have to be altered because of cost overuns -due to inspections. You can be talking to the most "inside powerful man in Memphis" and he can say 4 years tops-but he is taking an educated guess on "best case scenario"
I have some experience in large building projects. It was "privately funded" 127 acres developed into a retirement communtity. The plans were approved by city, county, and state. The contractors gave a tentative time of 3 years to build 44 duplexes, 2 apartment buildings with 50 large 2 bedroom apartments and 20 patio apartments per unit and private roads for all the developement- connected to the city roads. It took 5 years and still it was not complete-but it could be opened to start leasing the units done in that 5 year span.
This project is on a much grander scale than the one I was involved in.
If it runs smooth as silk-no problems at all I'd guess at least 5 years. If it has a lot of problems-who knows. It may end up being finished as the complex I described-some things done and opened while others are still being built. I am not trying to argue with you I am trying to point out it will happen in its own time depending on literally hundreds of things involved. The city signing on to the project was the easiest part. IMO.

ITA with what you're sayin.

What i'm sayin though is that those problems aint of a concern with this because of it's location and settin.

All i'm sayin is that it's a done deal.

It may take 4-5 years, despite what I was told, which accordin to what EPE officials told the CC, it's expected to be 3-4 at the most.

This aint an overnight development proposal.

It was proposed back in February 06, almost 2 years ago.

Folks in Memphis been waitin to see changes, like bulldozers and dirt turned.

But from what I was told, EPE expects to start turnin dirt as early as February, AS OF RIGHT NOW.

That can all change considerin how long the new CC takes approvin the rezonin readings.

[keke23]

More information from EPE.

FAQs About Recent Announcements Regarding The Future Of Graceland 3/16/2006
For many, many years, members of the Elvis Presley Enterprises management team, including Priscilla Presley and Lisa Marie Presley, have dreamed of building visitor center, hotel and Elvis exhibition facilities far superior to the nice facilities we have developed thus far. Today, with the resources and leadership available to EPE with its new parent company, CKX, headed by Robert F.X. Sillerman, it appears that our dreams could be coming true very soon. We anticipate much of it could be completed within three years. Recent news coverage of CKX/EPE’s plans for the future of the Graceland properties has been inaccurate and misleading. Reporters misconstrued some of the information they were given. Here, we answer the most frequently asked questions from Elvis fans and our colleagues in the tourism industry.

Will Graceland tours close temporarily during the development of the new facilities? No. Graceland tour operations will not be interrupted at any time as a result of the construction.

Will the Heartbreak Hotel on the Graceland complex be closing soon to make way for the new hotel? No. The proposed new hotel could be as much as three years in development. Heartbreak Hotel will continue in full operation at least until the new hotel opens, and it is possible that Heartbreak Hotel could continue operating on a permanent basis after that. We recently completed another round of upgrades to Heartbreak Hotel for the comfort and enjoyment of our guests and are about to start work on a new second elevator to supplement the operation of the existing one. We will continue to make the unique experience of staying at Heartbreak Hotel a pleasure for all our guests.

Will there continue to be new and exciting exhibits added to the Graceland experience between now and when the new exhibit facilities open? Absolutely. Each season, as always, there will be something new to see as items rotate in and out of our primary exhibits at Graceland Mansion that present the story of Elvis’s life and career, and in the annual re-theming of our Sincerely Elvis Museum across the street in Graceland Plaza. This year’s new exhibit for Sincerely Elvis just opened. It is called Elvis ’56 and it takes a month-by-month look at the year Elvis Presley was catapulted to superstardom. Also just opened is a new exhibit in the Graceland Crossing shopping center called Elvis After Dark, which is themed around the nightlife of Elvis in his personal and professional life.

Is opening the upstairs for tours part of the plan for the Graceland tour experience? No. Our company policy and the personal policy of Graceland Mansion’s sole owner, Lisa Marie Presley, is that the upstairs is to remain private. See our regular FAQ item about this matter.

Will there be new construction on the Graceland Mansion grounds or any remodeling of the house? No. Our goal and our sacred responsibility is to preserve the Graceland Mansion and grounds and maintain their historical integrity forever. One change in the tour experience once the planned new museum opens in our new visitor center is that we will have the space to present the story of Elvis’s life and career in greater context, so the trophy room and the racquetball court at the mansion no longer will be needed for that purpose. The trophy room then can be used for special Elvis exhibits yet to be determined and the racquetball court can return to its original look.

References have been made to Disneyland or Disney World in descriptions of the new development of the visitor center properties. Does that mean Graceland is about to be surrounded by a theme park setting including rides? Some media coverage has suggested there might be a Vegas or hotel casino type of look – is that true? No. Any references that have been made to Disney have been because Disney is thought of as setting and maintaining the platinum standard for beautiful visitor facilities and outstanding guest service. Some press misconstrued that. And any suggestions that we are going for a Vegas type of look are pure fabrication. Our goal with the new development of our visitor center properties is to create an elegant, beautiful atmosphere for the Graceland visitor experience.

Will the Elvis Radio/Sirius 13 studio booth in Graceland Plaza go away because of the new development? Someday the booth could be relocated somewhere else on our visitor center property, but that will not happen anytime soon. Elvis is the only artist with his own full-time radio station and ElvisRadio on Sirius Channel 13 has become one of the best ways fans around the world celebrate Elvis. The dee-jays will continue to create their popular shows and the booth will continue to be one of the must-visit stops when visiting Graceland.

Will the Graceland Plaza visitor center - including the Elvis Presley Automobile Museum and the Elvis airplanes exhibit - and the Graceland Crossing shopping center go away? Eventually, most or possibly all of the structures on these properties will be removed to make way for new facilities. But, that will not happen anytime soon. Whether the automobile exhibit and airplanes will remain in their current locations or be moved elsewhere on our complex remains to be determined. The current Graceland Plaza and Graceland Crossing and all the shops and attractions there will remain in full, uninterrupted operation for a good while to come and we will continue to maintain and refine these properties in the meantime.

There have been statements about possible improvements to the neighborhood that the Graceland complex is part of. What’s that about? On February 23, 2006, CKX chief Robert F.X. Sillerman, with the supportive presence of Tennessee Congressman and Senate candidate Harold Ford, Jr. and EPE CEO Jack Soden, reached out to local business and government leaders at a breakfast meeting of the Memphis Chamber of Commerce with some basic information about our plans. Then, Sillerman, Ford and Soden had meetings with Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, Shelby County Mayor A.C. Wharton, and some key business leaders. The goal was to garner the support of the local government and business community for the Graceland developments and to inspire them to redevelop and revitalize the area leading up to and surrounding the Graceland complex. Community revitalization efforts in recent years, although successful to some degree, have been slow. Our hope is that the CKX/EPE major reinvestment in the Graceland complex will touch off a faster paced beautification and revitalization of the whole neighborhood. This would be a pleasure for Elvis fans and others visiting Graceland and, of course, could do wonders for the economy of our community and the betterment of the lives of our neighbors.

When will more details be available and how can I be in the loop? We are in the very preliminary planning stages at this time and our plans and decisions are continually evolving. What we have stated thus far is a general overview of our intentions. Over the course of these next few years of development we will share with you as often as possible any available updates, including drawings, photos, etc., along with information about development in the surrounding neighborhood. The postings will be in News here on Elvis.com. Each time we post an update article, we will issue an alert via our free e-newsletters service, so do please sign up for the newsletters so you won’t miss any of the information and excitement. Periodically, members of the Elvis Insiders will be treated to special advance information and images on their members-only message board.

EPE did say that, yea.

But that was back almost 2 years ago when it was posted.

Alot has changed since then.....ALOT!

[Suzan]

Lakeisha I said 3-4 yrs. and you or EP75 said I was wrong...hmmm odd that you are saying the same now. LOL

[Suzan]

No I posted that EPE has not changed their stance, nor has Sillerman.:D

[presley31]

EPE did say that, yea.

But that was back almost 2 years ago when it was posted.

Alot has changed since then.....ALOT!

thats funny but its on the link that EPE emailed me, so its not old news.

[presley31]

New from today from Gold collectors news

Billionaire Plans to Spend Millions on Graceland.


MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WHBQ FOX13 myfoxmemphis.com) -- The process for renovating Graceland officially kicks off Tuesday and more money than originally thought is expected to be invested in Elvis' Memphis home.

The name "Elvis Presley" and the rights to Graceland are owned by billionaire businessman Robert Sillerman.

Tuesday the Memphis City Council plans to clear the way for Sillerman to make more than $200 million worth of improvements near Elvis' Memphis mansion.


Watch the video:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pa...d=1.1.1&sflg=1



2007/12/07 www.myfoxmemphis.com / www.epgold.com

[Getlo]

Jay's the one who posted that Sillerman wanted to remodel

No argument there ...

[Suzan]

New from today from Gold collectors news

Billionaire Plans to Spend Millions on Graceland.


MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WHBQ FOX13 myfoxmemphis.com) -- The process for renovating Graceland officially kicks off Tuesday and more money than originally thought is expected to be invested in Elvis' Memphis home.

The name "Elvis Presley" and the rights to Graceland are owned by billionaire businessman Robert Sillerman.

Tuesday the Memphis City Council plans to clear the way for Sillerman to make more than $200 million worth of improvements near Elvis' Memphis mansion.


Watch the video:

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pa...d=1.1.1&sflg=1



2007/12/07 www.myfoxmemphis.com / www.epgold.com

All of it but the rights to Graceland are correct.
And notice that it says NEAR Graceland. :D
Thank you for posting.:)

[Getlo]

PLEEEEEASE.

She aint got no source, accept for emailin EPE and botherin them to get her info.


Yeah, exactly!

I mean, all presley31's done is email EPE themselves to find out what's happening ... but you've got your inside source.

Give us a break.

You've been caught out many times here posting erroneous information, and supplying more rumours and bogus leads than anyone else. In those two emails, presley31 provided info direct from the source.

I know which one I'd rather believe.

[Suzan]

Yeah, exactly!

I mean, al presley31's done is email EPE themselves to find out what's happening ... but you've got your inside source.

Give us a break.

You've been caught out many times here posting erroneous information, and supplying more rumours and bogus leads than anyone else. In those two emails, presley31 provided info direct from the source.

I know which one I'd rather believe.

(y) YOU ROCK! :D

Yes both you and I and a few other's (and now P31) all have posted CONFIRMED AND SHOWN info regarding all this, yet this individual has yet to provide CONCRETE proof of source...and not the city council members whom I posted PROOF on while back....:)

[utmom2008]

The HH is comin down, possibly soon. So where are folks gonna stay


I guess I will stay at The Peabody, since that's where I have stayed in the past.;););)

[rocknroll]

Yeah, exactly!

I mean, all presley31's done is email EPE themselves to find out what's happening ... but you've got your inside source.

Give us a break.

You've been caught out many times here posting erroneous information, and supplying more rumours and bogus leads than anyone else. In those two emails, presley31 provided info direct from the source.

I know which one I'd rather believe.

Lakeisha getting hammered again. She must enjoy this stuff.

Does living in Memphis make a person an expert on all things Elvis?

[Sonny]

Let's give it a rest. It's Christmas time. :newyear: