View Full Version : Have you seen ELVIS in CONCERT?
Laura-Jiline
11-20-2007, 03:58 AM
I...unfortunately never! It is always very interesting to read experience reports from fan which have seen Elvis.
Dreaming! A very interesting web page http://www.elvisconcerts.com/concert/concert01.htm
elvis himselvis
11-20-2007, 09:26 AM
yes that's indeed a very interesting webpage,and I really liked it.there are alot of reviews on that site,nice reading.
thanks for sharing
PiersEIN
11-22-2007, 03:20 AM
Go here for a very interesting viewpoint on EIN
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'Elvis In Concert' 1977 TV special; Should it be released officially? There is always a heated debate as to whether Elvis' final TV special should be released. Should we accept Elvis with the sadness & pain of his last concerts, or do we agree with EPE's policy of glorifying the god-like Elvis mega-star and deny that anything changed after 'Aloha'? Some fans scream YES for the release of 'Elvis In Concert', yet they are often labelled as *****s for wanting Elvis' good clean image once again vilified. In this stimulating article, Gary V explains why most of us are in fact deluded!
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/spotlight_Elvisinconcert_release.html
Cheers
Piers
Getlo
11-22-2007, 04:08 AM
In this stimulating article, Gary V explains why most of us are in fact deluded!
Those of us who don't want to see EIC released to the public are most assuredly not deluded! ;)
elvislady
11-22-2007, 07:32 AM
The fact that elvis went out on stage in his last concert even though he was ill took some doing in my eyes, if anyone says the col made him do it that to is rubbish, he wanted to to one last show for his fans. if the fans want to buy it for there own personal collection then let them. "deluded they are not"
elvislady:D
cameron
11-22-2007, 07:47 AM
The fact that elvis went out on stage in his last concert even though he was ill took some doing in my eyes, if anyone says the col made him do it that to is rubbish, he wanted to to one last show for his fans. if the fans want to buy it for there own personal collection then let them. "deluded they are not"
elvislady:D
I totally agree .(y) I'm not deluded, quite realistic, actually.
It hurts to see Elvis so ill. But, in the long run, the ones that want it will buy it. The rest won't. Simple enough to me .:)
Tony Trout
11-22-2007, 07:52 AM
I hate to say it but I truly believe that Elvis purely went out on stage those two nights in June of '77 simple because the Colonel & CBS made him do it because they (CBS) waved $750.000 in front of Parker's nose and he went for it.
"Elvis In Concert" should have never happened at all, IMO.
epmoodyblue
11-22-2007, 07:58 AM
I totally agree .(y) I'm not deluded, quite realistic, actually.
It hurts to see Elvis so ill. But, in the long run, the ones that want it will buy it. The rest won't. Simple enough to me .:)i would buy the 'Elvis In Concert' 1977 TV special if released..my friend taped in on vhs in october when it aired on tv .later i took the tape from him and transfered it on dvd..so i dont really need it..i have my copy..but fact is it will never ever be oficially released .because epe are stupidoooooooooooooo(n):king::cold:
Getlo
11-22-2007, 08:05 AM
"Elvis In Concert"[/B][/I] should have never happened at all, IMO.
Agreed (y) (although I think this thread was started about Elvis' concerts in general, not the CBS special).
This was debated at some length in other threads.
To release this special as a general release would cause harm to Elvis' image. As I said elsewhere, if it is to be released officially, let it be in an FTD-type format, where fans who know of it and want it can buy it.
"The public has already seen it," says Gary V, somewhat smugly in the link above.
That's crap; the public have only seen some of the best snippets. They would crucify Elvis and us fans if they saw the whole, sordid mess.
epmoodyblue
11-22-2007, 09:07 AM
Agreed (y) (although I think this thread was started about Elvis' concerts in general, not the CBS special).
This was debated at some length in other threads.
To release this special as a general release would cause harm to Elvis' image. As I said elsewhere, if it is to be released officially, let it be in an FTD-type format, where fans who know of it and want it can buy it.
"The public has already seen it," says Gary V, somewhat smugly in the link above.
That's crap; the public have only seen some of the best snippets. They would crucify Elvis and us fans if they saw the whole, sordid mess.well i diagree with you here getlo when u say To release this special as a general release would cause harm to Elvis' image..not at all its a piece of history and the concert is good.obviosly elvis was not well.still his voice was left intack strong beautiful..after all what are you so afraid of many have already seen the concert.even young fans..you make it sound like elvis was like some kind of horrific monster that we should hide this from the public he wasint and they should release it i bet you it will be abig seller..it will sell tons of copies and they can also add aphotobooklet to it etc..elvis was no monster in 77.. just very ill :'( aafter all you did say you enjoyed the indy 77 concert...so its not all bad and he looked better for that concert his last one:king::cold:
cameron
11-22-2007, 09:25 AM
well i diagree with you here getlo when u say To release this special as a general release would cause harm to Elvis' image..not at all its a piece of history and the concert is good.obviosly elvis was not well.still his voice was left intack strong beautiful..after all what are you so afraid of many have already seen the concert.even young fans..you make it sound like elvis was like some kind of horrific monster that we should hide this from the public he wasint and they should release it i bet you it will be abig seller..it will sell tons of copies and they can also add aphotobooklet to it etc..elvis was no monster in 77.. just very ill :'( aafter all you did say you enjoyed the indy 77 concert...so its not all bad and he looked better for that concert his last one:king::cold:
I agree, it should be released.
IMO, it has been the horrible books and gossip from his "fans and friends" that's hurt Elvis' name. Certainly , not anything he ever did.
What he did was tame compared to all the things he was accused of, IMO.
IF any fan is ashamed of him; I'd suggest becoming a fan of someone else .
He'd probably tell them the same. (y)
elvislady
11-22-2007, 10:14 AM
I agree, it should be released.
IMO, it has been the horrible books and gossip from his "fans and friends" that's hurt Elvis' name. Certainly , not anything he ever did.
What he did was tame compared to all the things he was accused of, IMO.
IF any fan is ashamed of him; I'd suggest becoming a fan of someone else .
He'd probably tell them the same. (y)
I agree with you, elvis carried on till the very end to give the fans what they loved which was himself as a whole package. the least we can do is respect this.
elvislady;)
Getlo
11-22-2007, 10:21 AM
the least we can do is respect this.
We can respect Elvis and his memory by not subjecting him to the inevitable taunts and jibes which would occur if In Concert got a wide release.
It is not a matter of being ashamed of Elvis; it's a matter of being embarrassed for the poor bastard and the fact that this TV special was even made in the first place.
cameron
11-22-2007, 10:27 AM
]It was made. It was and is Elvis. If no one can accept Elvis or anyone the way they really are plus calling them a bastard ; IMO he doesn't need them as a "fan." I have a feeling he might tell anyone the same.
"IMO, it has been the horrible books and gossip from his "fans and friends" that's hurt Elvis' name. Certainly , not anything he ever did."
That's not entirely true.The reason there is an arugement about releasing the CBS special is due to his appearance and overall poor performance.Elvis was his own worst enemy.He unintentionally gave his critics all they needed to ridicule him.The pereception that he became a parody of himself has done more to undermine his credibility as an artist more than any book.That perception whether you want to believe it or not was a result of what Elvis himself did.
Jak
elvislady
11-22-2007, 10:33 AM
We can respect Elvis and his memory by not subjecting him to the inevitable taunts and jibes which would occur if In Concert got a wide release.
It is not a matter of being ashamed of Elvis; it's a matter of being embarrassed for the poor bastard and the fact that this TV special was even made in the first place.
Why do you gaive a dam what other people think, if they dont slate him for this they will find something else to slate him about, do what other fans do let it go over your head. has for elvis being a poor bastard! i have to agree with camerons coment.
elvislady;)
Getlo
11-22-2007, 10:39 AM
Why do you gaive a dam what other people think,
Because I care about his reputation, that's why! If you - as you suggest - don't care what others think, then you have no right to object to things like What Happened or the many scurrilous rumours about him. If In Concert gets a wide release, we'll go back to the bad ol' days of the late 70s and early 80s where Elvis was basically a joke in the eyes of the general public.
has for elvis being a poor bastard! i have to agree with camerons coment.
I am not surprised at all that cameron completely missed the point of that comment; don't follow her down the same path, your posts indicate you're smarter than that.
"Bastard", in this sense, is a colloquialism (similar to Barbara Stanwyck's comment "I feel sorry for the poor bastard"). I'm not saying he actually was a bastard (ie someone without parents, or a rotten person).
Don't presume I was being literal here! ;)
SleepyJack
11-22-2007, 11:03 AM
This one never fails to raise the temperature does it??!!
I`ve never in all my years as a fan been ashamed of Elvis,or really cared too much about the general public`s opinion of him.....but,that said, I can see Getlo`s opinion of how it could be damaging to the Elvis image....the public are not as forgiving as we are....and I don`t think Elvis himself would be happy to be made a joke of.I`m not saying that we should hide it beacause we are ashamed of it.....just that maybe it`s something the general population don`t need to have.....
Getlo
11-22-2007, 11:09 AM
the public are not as forgiving as we are....and I don`t think Elvis himself would be happy to be made a joke of.I`m not saying that we should hide it beacause we are ashamed of it...
Exactly. Elvis himself would have been the first to say "pulp the footage, man".
Elvis would have been the first one to say that he wasnt proud of that footage.
cameron
11-22-2007, 02:42 PM
Elvis would have been the first one to say that he wasnt proud of that footage.
Elvis would not have put up with smart ,filthy mouthed 'FANS' IMO. either .
They would have been out the door and into the gutter where that stuff belongs I agree with Elvis, who needs them? (y)
Elvis would have been the first one to say that he wasnt proud of that footage.
I'm sure looking back if he had lived there would be a lot of things he may not have been proud of-and a lot of things he would have kept private as he had in life. (as most people do in their own lives) But we can see most of them have been made public-and dissected, chewed, and criticised to the point of nausea. In the meantime IMO the general public thinks of Elvis as only his last few years-thus they do not look for the greatness of the other 20. His talent and charisma are being overtaken by the last few tragic years of his life.
I saw Elvis in St. Louis on 3-22-76. He gave a good show for 76 I thought-as did the crowd who gave him a couple standing ovations. The crowd was pretty diverse teens, 20 somethings, thirty somethings and on up. His version of "America the Beautiful" was a highlight of the show. He moved but not like in the early 70s, he seemed in good spirits-and was not slurring words or stumbling around. I was happy I finally got to see him-I had tried twice before to get tickets in 70 and 73 but they sold out to quick. The end of the show seemed to happen in seconds and then he was gone-kind of like his life.
elvislady
11-22-2007, 03:39 PM
"Bastard", in this sense, is a colloquialism (similar to Barbara Stanwyck's comment "I feel sorry for the poor bastard"). I'm not saying he actually was a bastard (ie someone without parents, or a rotten person).
Having read your post again i can see your point.
elvislady:D
elvislady
11-22-2007, 03:39 PM
"Bastard", in this sense, is a colloquialism (similar to Barbara Stanwyck's comment "I feel sorry for the poor bastard"). I'm not saying he actually was a bastard (ie someone without parents, or a rotten person).
Having read your comment again i can see your point.
elvislady:D
Elvis would not have put up with smart ,filthy mouthed 'FANS' IMO. either .
They would have been out the door and into the gutter where that stuff belongs I agree with Elvis, who needs them? (y)
I have no idea what that means.Please elaborate if you wish.
I'm sure looking back if he had lived there would be a lot of things he may not have been proud of-and a lot of things he would have kept private as he had in life. (as most people do in their own lives) But we can see most of them have been made public-and dissected, chewed, and criticised to the point of nausea. In the meantime IMO the general public thinks of Elvis as only his last few years-thus they do not look for the greatness of the other 20. His talent and charisma are being overtaken by the last few tragic years of his life.
I saw Elvis in St. Louis on 3-22-76. He gave a good show for 76 I thought-as did the crowd who gave him a couple standing ovations. The crowd was pretty diverse teens, 20 somethings, thirty somethings and on up. His version of "America the Beautiful" was a highlight of the show. He moved but not like in the early 70s, he seemed in good spirits-and was not slurring words or stumbling around. I was happy I finally got to see him-I had tried twice before to get tickets in 70 and 73 but they sold out to quick. The end of the show seemed to happen in seconds and then he was gone-kind of like his life.
Hey KPM
My point is that when Elvis was in complete control he was the ultimate performer.I think if he had lived and was able to view that CBS footage he would certainly know that wasnt one of his finest moments to put it mildly.The footage is heartbreaking in spots.Im talking about all the footage including the outtakes of course.If many fans cant stand to watch it that tells you a whole lot.
Im glad you got to see him.Just because I can take a hard stance on his performance's later on,seeing him at any time was certainly a great thing.He was one of a kind.
Jak
cameron
11-22-2007, 05:36 PM
I have no idea what that means.Please elaborate if you wish.
I don't think anything needs to be explained.
Elvis had a temper when people talked about him.
So do I, as do most of us.
I just agree with him.
I've had a nice Thanksgiving; no reason to spoil it now. :)(y)
I don't think anything needs to be explained.
Elvis had a temper when people talked about him.
So do I, as do most of us.
I just agree with him.
I've had a nice Thanksgiving; no reason to spoil it now. :)(y)
Well I have no idea what youre comment has to do with mine that you highlighted but that's fine.Nothing that happens on a messageboard could spoil my day.I suggest everyone should follow my lead in that dept.
Jak
cameron
11-22-2007, 06:39 PM
Well I have no idea what youre comment has to do with mine that you highlighted but that's fine.Nothing that happens on a messageboard could spoil my day.I suggest everyone should follow my lead in that dept.
Jak
Sorry, I don't guess it did .
Just agreed with you that he might not be happy with some concerts .
Just added my opinion about someone talking about him.
We appear to have the same feeling about gossip.
Also, name calling .
I grew up in a small town that loved to gossip.
If they didn't "know" what you were doing; they made it up. ;)
{Just got up from a Thanksgiving nap. Not much bothers me either ; except negativity all the time}
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Elvis In Concert graphically demonstrates a man who had lost control of his life, I do not judge him for it, I do not criticise him for it, it is just fact. If you can watch this and then say you do not feel the tinniest bit sad then something is wrong!
As a fan I would love to have crisp DVD quality footage of this show, but my love of Elvis is nothing compared to veracious appetite of the press who would absolutely love EPE to release this show to savage Elvis and fall back on stereotypical views they had in the late 70' early 80's. At the present time we have an equilibrium with the press generally describing Elvis in good terms, why give them an opportunity to go back to the dark days??
Why would you as a fan release this to a parasitic press who have already picked at the bones of Elvis' life?
Let sleeping dogs lie...
Diane
11-23-2007, 01:44 PM
I agree with Matt, there's more than enough fodder out there over the last 30 years. I think the last two years with the exceptions of some very good concerts should be forgotten in lieu of the 20 great ones he gave us.
Diane
cameron
11-23-2007, 01:58 PM
I guess I'm a different kind of fan.
I listened to Elvis throughout all the BS coming out about him these last 30 years . I always felt it was truly none of my business what he did or didn't do in his private life.
IF people like Elvis' music, fine.If not , they just don't need to listen to it nor watch him.
IMO, "the press" are not waiting "in line" to trash Elvis.
Some fans place more importance on these things than is necessary.
The press has had all the info plus his concerts for over 30 years .
They've already "done their thing", IMO.
That's all just my opinion. It's been my opinion for years . (y)
Elvis In Concert graphically demonstrates a man who had lost control of his life, I do not judge him for it, I do not criticise him for it, it is just fact. If you can watch this and then say you do not feel the tinniest bit sad then something is wrong!
As a fan I would love to have crisp DVD quality footage of this show, but my love of Elvis is nothing compared to veracious appetite of the press who would absolutely love EPE to release this show to savage Elvis and fall back on stereotypical views they had in the late 70' early 80's. At the present time we have an equilibrium with the press generally describing Elvis in good terms, why give them an opportunity to go back to the dark days??
Why would you as a fan release this to a parasitic press who have already picked at the bones of Elvis' life?
Let sleeping dogs lie...
Very well said.
Getlo
11-23-2007, 07:33 PM
Elvis In Concert graphically demonstrates a man who had lost control of his life, I do not judge him for it, I do not criticise him for it, it is just fact. If you can watch this and then say you do not feel the tinniest bit sad then something is wrong!
As a fan I would love to have crisp DVD quality footage of this show, but my love of Elvis is nothing compared to veracious appetite of the press who would absolutely love EPE to release this show to savage Elvis and fall back on stereotypical views they had in the late 70' early 80's. At the present time we have an equilibrium with the press generally describing Elvis in good terms, why give them an opportunity to go back to the dark days??
Why would you as a fan release this to a parasitic press who have already picked at the bones of Elvis' life?
Let sleeping dogs lie...
Yeah ... what he said! (y):notworthy
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-24-2007, 01:55 AM
The Image of Elvis from 1977 is one that the general public has problems with, they mock this time period, this cannot be denied! To simply say they can choose to ignore it is all well and good, perhaps the vast majority will?
As for the comment that the press are not waiting to 'trash' Elvis, this is not strictly true, the tabloid press still have their moments and given the spectre of the right material it could potentially reignite some very unflattering reviews.
The CBS Concert could never be released on the quiet, it would be an event because the hard core fans want it, this would intern be reviewed by the likes of Amazon and other on-line retailers. I do not think it would get a fair hearing from a non Elvis fan, the fans in general give a review based on emotional loyalty and clearly have a vested interest.
Whether you like EPE and their management style or not, they have got this decision right. EPE have spent many years cultivating everything Elvis from 1954-1973 to release a DVD that perpetuates the wrong Image is a public relations disaster waiting to happen. This is not just my opinion it is quite obviously theirs as well ;)
cameron
11-24-2007, 02:58 AM
The Image of Elvis from 1977 is one that the general public has problems with, they mock this time period, this cannot be denied! To simply say they can choose to ignore it is all well and good, perhaps the vast majority will?
As for the comment that the press are not waiting to 'trash' Elvis, this is not strictly true, the tabloid press still have their moments and given the spectre of the right material it could potentially reignite some very unflattering reviews.
The CBS Concert could never be released on the quiet, it would be an event because the hard core fans want it, this would intern be reviewed by the likes of Amazon and other on-line retailers. I do not think it would get a fair hearing from a non Elvis fan, the fans in general give a review based on emotional loyalty and clearly have a vested interest.
Whether you like EPE and their management style or not, they have got this decision right. EPE have spent many years cultivating everything Elvis from 1954-1973 to release a DVD that perpetuates the wrong Image is a public relations disaster waiting to happen. This is not just my opinion it is quite obviously theirs as well ;)
This could be debated forever.
In other countries; what you say might be true.
The tabloids "trash" and make fun of everyone. It's whatever the gossip mongrals are into at the time. It's their business and how they make a living.
The general public I've found here {where I live} either like Elvis music or they don't .Most are not even aware of all the stories surrounding him.
It's been too long ago. They have their own music and scandals they relate to.
I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say. I only care about the ones that call themselves fans "trashing " him on Elvis sites . IMO, it's not necessary nor can I have any respect for them and they cease to be Elvis fans to me .
"I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say. I only care about the ones that call themselves fans "trashing " him on Elvis sites . IMO, it's not necessary nor can I have any respect for them and they cease to be Elvis fans to me ."
What's your definition of trashing?Is recanting actual negative moments of his life place somebody into the "non fan" category?How can you or any other person judge somebody youve never met?It's not youre place to qualify somebody as a fan I dont think.The term "true fan" is used most often by those who wouldnt really be classified as one I think.
Jak
cameron
11-24-2007, 05:02 AM
"I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say. I only care about the ones that call themselves fans "trashing " him on Elvis sites . IMO, it's not necessary nor can I have any respect for them and they cease to be Elvis fans to me ."
What's your definition of trashing?Is recanting actual negative moments of his life place somebody into the "non fan" category?How can you or any other person judge somebody youve never met?It's not youre place to qualify somebody as a fan I dont think.The term "true fan" is used most often by those who wouldnt really be classified as one I think.
Jak
I didn't use the term "Non-fan", JJ did.
I don't judge "people" , only their "actions and their words."
Kind of like being a true friend or contributing to the gossip.
I just state my opinion, same as everyone else .
marijaep
11-24-2007, 05:22 AM
This could be debated forever.
In other countries; what you say might be true.
The tabloids "trash" and make fun of everyone. It's whatever the gossip mongrals are into at the time. It's their business and how they make a living.
The general public I've found here {where I live} either like Elvis music or they don't .Most are not even aware of all the stories surrounding him.
It's been too long ago. They have their own music and scandals they relate to.
I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say. I only care about the ones that call themselves fans "trashing " him on Elvis sites . IMO, it's not necessary nor can I have any respect for them and they cease to be Elvis fans to me .
Yes, it's their job, that's true. The thing is that many people believe in the trash they write! I have millions of examples, like there was one comment in one of the newspapers here that Elvis was gay. Do you know how many people told me : Why do you like him? He was a gay lol.
It's just....UGH! I mean, I don't blame the people for believing or the media for writing that, it's just business as you have already said.
It's very important how they are going to "show" Elvis in the media, because if they just write all the dark side trash, how can you expect Elvis to have more young fans today, 30 years after???
I have a question. What does a non-fan mean? Someone who doesn't like Elvis? - Or someone who doesn't KNOW how great Elvis was and might become one soon.
Well if it's the second one, then I'm sure you care about the non-fans and what they have to say.
"Elvis In Concert" is a sad view to see for every fan. From the fact that something seriously was wrong with Elvis, we can understand why the concert wasn't that good. I have watched that thing only once, not because I think it's bad (there are some really good performances of songs he gave in this one) but because it's too said to watch Elvis in that condition.
Well, I as a fan care what others think about Elvis and I don't think it should be released because it will be the target of the media right away.
It's just my opinion.
cameron
11-24-2007, 05:56 AM
All I know is, I have children in their 30's that don't read or listen to the BS.
One went to G'land a year ago and when she walked through the front door, started crying. :'( She was never a "huge fan" of Elvis and has no idea what I'm talking about when I talk about the BS to her .
She knows she likes his music; period.
My three grandsons insist on hearing and seeing the 1977 concerts.
It's what they like. Just a matter of opinion from the younger generation .;)
utmom2008
11-24-2007, 01:16 PM
The Image of Elvis from 1977 is one that the general public has problems with, they mock this time period, this cannot be denied! To simply say they can choose to ignore it is all well and good, perhaps the vast majority will?
As for the comment that the press are not waiting to 'trash' Elvis, this is not strictly true, the tabloid press still have their moments and given the spectre of the right material it could potentially reignite some very unflattering reviews.
The CBS Concert could never be released on the quiet, it would be an event because the hard core fans want it, this would intern be reviewed by the likes of Amazon and other on-line retailers. I do not think it would get a fair hearing from a non Elvis fan, the fans in general give a review based on emotional loyalty and clearly have a vested interest.
Whether you like EPE and their management style or not, they have got this decision right. EPE have spent many years cultivating everything Elvis from 1954-1973 to release a DVD that perpetuates the wrong Image is a public relations disaster waiting to happen. This is not just my opinion it is quite obviously theirs as well ;)
You got it right 1000%!! All the "fat Elvis" jokes and such are all based on the last 6 months of his life (n) I think it will be like starting over..having to AGAIN tell people "please don't watch this, instead watch TTWII". 21 years of great performances will be cancelled out in the mind of the average public. Last night I was watching the movie "Stepmom"...Susan Sarandon's daughter wanted to be Elvis for Halloween. So she asked her daughter "do you want to be gold lame Elvis, or fat drugged up Elvis?" That movie was a huge box office hit when it came out, so think of the millions that think that question to be true and fair. WE love him,WE know it was a dark period in a man's life,but others may not see it that way. Yes (y), let sleeping dogs lie, and...let Elvis rest in peace. The press would not let him...IF they get hold of this. :'(
Getlo
11-24-2007, 01:56 PM
"I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say. I only care about the ones that call themselves fans "trashing " him on Elvis sites . IMO, it's not necessary nor can I have any respect for them and they cease to be Elvis fans to me ."
What's your definition of trashing?Is recanting actual negative moments of his life place somebody into the "non fan" category?How can you or any other person judge somebody youve never met?It's not youre place to qualify somebody as a fan I dont think.The term "true fan" is used most often by those who wouldnt really be classified as one I think.
Well said jak.
People like cameron don't care what non-fans think ... but the non-fans are the ones out there buying other music and they will see Elvis as he was during In Concert ... and they will slay him for it.
I am sick to death of the elitisim displayed by the likes of cameron and her ilk.
"True fan" - that two-word statement makes me sick to my stomach.
Who is she to decide what is true? :mad:(n):mad:
cameron
11-24-2007, 02:08 PM
Well said jak.
People like cameron don't care what non-fans think ... but the non-fans are the ones out there buying other music and they will see Elvis as he was during In Concert ... and they will slay him for it.
I am sick to death of the elitisim displayed by the likes of cameron and her ilk.
"True fan" - that two-word statement makes me sick to my stomach.
Who is she to decide what is true? :mad:(n):mad:
I speak for myself, as everyone should be allowed to do.
I don't call you names nor put you down for your opinions,.
I'd like the same consideration.
Well said jak.
People like cameron don't care what non-fans think ... but the non-fans are the ones out there buying other music and they will see Elvis as he was during In Concert ... and they will slay him for it.
I am sick to death of the elitisim displayed by the likes of cameron and her ilk.
"True fan" - that two-word statement makes me sick to my stomach.
Who is she to decide what is true? :mad:(n):mad:
Youre right about the term true fan being thrown around and worn like as badge of honor by some.I dont know what the qualifications are for meeting this criteria.I bet many that would say Im not one havent invested a third of the time or money into Elvis that I or others have.Im just curious what sets these true fans apart?
Jak
utmom2008
11-24-2007, 02:57 PM
Youre right about the term true fan being thrown around and worn like as badge of honor by some.I dont know what the qualifications are for meeting this criteria.I bet many that would say Im not one havent invested a third of the time or money into Elvis that I or others have.Im just curious what sets these true fans apart?
Jak
Great thought Jak (y) (y). What exactly is a "true fan"? :hmm: :hmm: I don't own an Elvis wig, sunglasses and jumpsuit, nor have I made my husband wear one either. :D Am I still a "true fan"? I hope so!! :notworthy
cameron
11-24-2007, 03:20 PM
Never said "true fan" .Maybe some might need some new glasses. ;)
I said "true friend." (y)
utmom2008
11-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Never said "true fan" .Maybe some might need some new glasses. ;)
I said "true friend." (y)
:lol::lol::lol::D I got new glasses 10 days ago, guess I didn't have them on when responding to any and all posts on top of me. :lol: ;);)
cameron
11-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Well, "we reap what we sow."
I'm a big believer in that (y)
Enjoy. :)
Never said "true fan" .Maybe some might need some new glasses. ;)
I said "true friend." (y)
You were never mentioned in my post.I was discussing the term.Some need glasses and some need to learn to read.
SleepyJack
11-24-2007, 05:05 PM
Some times these things get out of hand for no good reason.....I thought people arrived at this site through sharing a common interest...Elvis.We can`t all have the same opinions..it would be pretty dull if we did,it doesn`t mean we have to go on and on and on and on about our differences......Take a big step back and take a deep breath!
We discuss Elvis's bad points and his downfall all the time-in the name of truth its put at times. My question is how is releasing EIC any different than discussing his drug use, bad performances, myths etc....
Its probably is a bad idea to release it to the public if you don't want people to think of Elvis as only as he was in EIC. But I do not see how its much different than the discussions about his personal life. He had problems and would have wanted them kept quiet (like we all would in our own lives)-but we discuss them all the time. He may not have wanted EIC to be released after seeing it, but I'm equally sure he would also not want his private life plastered all over the world.
People have already seen clips of the shows which EPE has allowed to be used. I watched the show in 77-I've seen the outtakes of the 2 concerts. If we are wanting the truth, good and bad, I just don't see the difference. But I do see the point about how the press would jump on it.
SleepyJack
11-24-2007, 05:41 PM
I guess for as long as there will be Elvis fans this will always be a dividing topic.I think (I may have said this elsewhere already) that if it is to be put on general release it should be treated properly,the original version was a shambles,poorly made and rushed out.I have more complaints about the whole package than I do about the shows themselves.
Getlo
11-24-2007, 06:23 PM
,the original version was a shambles,poorly made and rushed out.
CBS (and by extension) RCA/BMG released EIC two months after Elvis died.
I don't believe they rushed it out. They worked with the material they had.
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-25-2007, 01:31 AM
The CBS Concert could never be released on the quiet, it would be an event because the hard core fans want it, this would intern be reviewed by the likes of Amazon and other on-line retailers. I do not think it would get a fair hearing from a non Elvis fan, the fans in general give a review based on emotional loyalty and clearly have a vested interest......
Just to quote the "Non Elvis Fan" in it's correct context, it is meant as a person 'reviewer' and yes... not a fan of Elvis (y)
I don't care what the "non-Elvis fan" has to say
I don't understand, why wouldn't you be bothered :supriced:
I didn't use the term "Non-fan", JJ did.
Please see above (y)
My three grandsons insist on hearing and seeing the 1977 concerts.
It's what they like. Just a matter of opinion from the younger generation .;)
So you are saying your grandsons insist on hearing/seeing Elvis from 1977?..............
"True fan" - that two-word statement makes me sick to my stomach.
Hope I have covered off what I meant as 'Non Fan' as I don't recall using the term 'True Fan' unless I felt sanctimonious :)
Getlo
11-25-2007, 02:06 AM
Hope I have covered off what I meant as 'Non Fan' as I don't recall using the term 'True Fan' unless I felt sanctimonious :)
No, JJ, my quote wasn't in reference to yourself. (y)
cameron
11-25-2007, 02:26 AM
I don't understand, why wouldn't you be bothered :supriced:
So you are saying your grandsons insist on hearing/seeing Elvis from 1977?..............
OFF TOPIC
I'm only going to answer what pertains to me.
I've found that what gets "reviewed" is only one persons opinion.I do not go by anyone else's opinion, but decide for myself.
It never has nor ever will {IMO} stop anyone from liking or disliking the music they will buy or want to listen to. Anyone's dreaming {IMO} if they think otherwise.{ My children listened to music I couldn't stand .They bought it; I didn't} ]My grandchildren like the 1974-1977 music of Elvis Presley.
That's what they want to hear, see and dance to. Since they're only 2, 6 and 9...I expect them to have their own preferences as teens and adults.
In my house it's not necessary to be an Elvis fan. They can decide for themselves
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-25-2007, 02:43 AM
OFF TOPIC
I've found that what gets "reviewed" is only one persons opinion.I do not go by anyone else's opinion, but decide for myself.
It never has nor ever will {IMO} stop anyone from liking or disliking the music they will buy or want to listen to. Anyone's dreaming {IMO} if they think otherwise
OFF TOPIC :lol:
"So you are saying your grandsons insist on hearing/seeing Elvis from 1977?.............."
Grandma,grandma!!Please play And I Love You one more time..please!!If were good can we hear Kalamazoo 77?
It all sounds completely plausible doesnt it?
cameron
11-25-2007, 03:59 AM
"So you are saying your grandsons insist on hearing/seeing Elvis from 1977?.............."
Grandma,grandma!!Please play And I Love You one more time..please!!If were good can we hear Kalamazoo 77?
It all sounds completely plausible doesnt it?
There MUST be a reason you and a few others like to "hijack" threads.
But, FYI: My grandsons call me "pa" and as young as they are; they have no idea which year they're listening to. They only know which songs they like.
DO NOT MAKE FUN OF MY GRANDCHILDREN AGAIN !!
For grown men to keep this crap going is beyond me.
It shows no feeling about the topic.Nor any consideration for the one that posted .
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Laura-Jiline
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Posts: 1 Have you seen ELVIS in CONCERT?
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I...unfortunately never! It is always very interesting to read experience reports from fan which have seen Elvis.
Dreaming! A very interesting web page http://www.elvisconcerts.com/concert/concert01.htm
"For grown men to keep this crap going is beyond me. "
I agree.They are a bunch of boarish beasts.
presley31
11-25-2007, 07:43 AM
We all have different opinions about things, lets all keep that in mind.
Ematt
11-25-2007, 08:50 AM
I have argued for many years on various message boards that E.I.C. should never be released. For most of the two shows Elvis is just plain bad, and i can`t stand to see him struggle. Where is the entertainment value in watching Elvis struggle so much?
But in recent times i have come to the conclusion that you can`t change/re-write history, it`s all part of the Elvis story.....so release it.
TotallyInsane
11-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Back to the topic!
I saw Elvis 25 times, kissed him twice and got 4 scarves! Yes, he was struggling in EIC but then again he died 2 months after it was recorded. He was in bad shape, mentally and physically. But, bless his heart he never quit trying to please a crowd! When in reality he should have been trying to help himself. I didn't see that until I saw EIC! Yes, it made me cry and I have a hard time watching it 30 years later! Not because I think he was fat or on drugs but because it hurts me to see him hurting the way he was and to know way too late that nobody noticed until it was too late!
cameron
11-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Back to the topic!
I saw Elvis 25 times, kissed him twice and got 4 scarves! Yes, he was struggling in EIC but then again he died 2 months after it was recorded. He was in bad shape, mentally and physically. But, bless his heart he never quit trying to please a crowd! When in reality he should have been trying to help himself. I didn't see that until I saw EIC! Yes, it made me cry and I have a hard time watching it 30 years later! Not because I think he was fat or on drugs but because it hurts me to see him hurting the way he was and to know way too late that nobody noticed until it was too late!
I agree with what you said and the way you said it.
Thanks for noticing. (y)
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 05:05 PM
"So you are saying your grandsons insist on hearing/seeing Elvis from 1977?.............."
Grandma,grandma!!Please play And I Love You one more time..please!!If were good can we hear Kalamazoo 77?
It all sounds completely plausible doesnt it?
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 05:20 PM
Elvis would not have put up with smart ,filthy mouthed 'FANS' IMO. either .
They would have been out the door and into the gutter where that stuff belongs I agree with Elvis, who needs them? (y)
Everyone seems to think that Elvis himself would not have been proud of the CBS footage and how it made him look. I fail to see how saying that he would not have been proud makes any of us "smart and filthy-mouthed". I'm confused over this one. :hmm::hmm:
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 05:31 PM
I guess I'm a different kind of fan.
I listened to Elvis throughout all the BS coming out about him these last 30 years . I always felt it was truly none of my business what he did or didn't do in his private life.
IF people like Elvis' music, fine.If not , they just don't need to listen to it nor watch him.
IMO, "the press" are not waiting "in line" to trash Elvis.
Some fans place more importance on these things than is necessary.
The press has had all the info plus his concerts for over 30 years .
They've already "done their thing", IMO.
That's all just my opinion. It's been my opinion for years . (y)
I don't think it's a question of anyone waiting in line to trash Elvis, but I do agree with Matt's observation. To release it to the general public does mean that places like Amamzon.com are going to review it. And when they do, to quote Getlo, "they will slay him for it." I don't see any other way..it would be too difficult to give it a great review. Unlike some others.....I care a GREAT deal what people think and say about Elvis. It's kind of like a member of the family........I can say it was not Elvis at his best, but I take great offense at the casual observer who decides to roast him over this performance. (n)
cameron
11-25-2007, 05:35 PM
I don't think it's a question of anyone waiting in line to trash Elvis, but I do agree with Matt's observation. To release it to the general public does mean that places like Amamzon.com are going to review it. And when they do, to quote Getlo, "they will slay him for it." I don't see any other way..it would be too difficult to give it a great review. Unlike some others.....I care a GREAT deal what people think and say about Elvis. It's kind of like a member of the family........I can say it was not Elvis at his best, but I take great offense at the casual observer who decides to roast him over this performance. (n)
I disagree with your opinion, as well as Matts and Getlo's.
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 05:36 PM
"Elvis In Concert" is a sad view to see for every fan. From the fact that something seriously was wrong with Elvis, we can understand why the concert wasn't that good. I have watched that thing only once, not because I think it's bad (there are some really good performances of songs he gave in this one) but because it's too said to watch Elvis in that condition.
Well, I as a fan care what others think about Elvis and I don't think it should be released because it will be the target of the media right away.
It's just my opinion.
(y) (y) (y) (y) Well said:notworthy
cameron
11-25-2007, 05:48 PM
I do not need anyone to agree with me. Nor Smilleys to express my opinions.
Since I've tried to explain, but not been allowed to....this thread has no use to anyone IMO, as it's been off topic for a very long time.
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 05:54 PM
I disagree with your opinion, as well as Matts and Getlo's.
OK....fair enough. Can you give me one good reason why they won't Bar-B-Que Elvis over this one? What are they going to say? Add this to your collection of the "68 Special", "TTWII" and "Aloha From Hawaii" and see for yourself how the man just got better and better with age? Or....will it be something along the lines of Elvis becoming a parody of himself??? Will it not be a reminder of how bad things had gotten near the end? A reminder of the drugs? Maybe they will say "buy this one as it is so much better than the Baltimore show". :hmm: :hmm:
cameron
11-25-2007, 06:05 PM
The topic is actually; Have you seen ELVIS in CONCERT?
and her post:I...unfortunately never! It is always very interesting to read experience reports from fan which have seen Elvis.
Looks like she never posted again. Who can blame her ?
I DID see Elvis in concert; but only once. This was in 1977 and I became an instant fan. So, if he was "bad" ,I never noticed .
Looking back it was Piers that first took this "off topic" and it snowballed from there .I'll have to talk to him about that ....
presley31
11-25-2007, 06:10 PM
I don`t like watching elvis in 77, it really does brings tears to my eyes, elvis wouoldn`t want people making fun of him cause of the way he looked. i never seen elvis so l guess l really don`t have a say.
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 06:10 PM
The topic is actually; Have you seen ELVIS in CONCERT?
and her post:I...unfortunately never! It is always very interesting to read experience reports from fan which have seen Elvis.
Looks like she never posted again. Who can blame her ?
I DID see Elvis in concert; but only once. This was in 1977 and I became an instant fan. So, if he was "bad" ,I never noticed .
Looking back it was Piers that first took this "off topic" and it snowballed from there .I'll have to talk to him about that ....
I think because she used all capital letters in saying ELVIS in CONCERT that everyone probably thought she was referring to the CBS special
utmom2008
11-25-2007, 06:14 PM
I...unfortunately never! It is always very interesting to read experience reports from fan which have seen Elvis.
Dreaming! A very interesting web page http://www.elvisconcerts.com/concert/concert01.htm
Hi Laura! To answer your question....yes, I was fortunate enough to see Elvis in person 10 times. I saw him in Vegas during the summers of 71, 72 and 73. I also saw him 7 times in concert...the last time being Dallas on 12/28/76. :notworthy :notworthy
Diane
11-25-2007, 06:31 PM
I seriously think they should release an un-cut complete version of the '72 On Tour and the TTWII. I would also like to see a really good DVD filled with concerts throughout the years where Elvis excelled and proved how much of a fantastic vocalist and entertainer he was. We've all been waiting for that a long time. I'm afraid they think that there aren't enough fans out there to warrant the expense of putting something like that together. Anyone have an opinion on this?
The '77 Concert should never have been done...Elvis should have been in a hospital.
Diane
SweetCaroline
11-25-2007, 08:52 PM
Hi Laura! To answer your question....yes, I was fortunate enough to see Elvis in person 10 times. I saw him in Vegas during the summers of 71, 72 and 73. I also saw him 7 times in concert...the last time being Dallas on 12/28/76. :notworthy :notworthy
Hi Rosanne,:king:
As you know I am also a "saw ELVIS in person" gal. :king: Vegas 70, San Diego 70, Vegas 71, Dayton 72, Vegas 73, 74, 75, San Diego 76. Great years of my life and most awesome memories. (y)
As for sub-topic of the CBS special...I hope the CBS special is never released for all the reasons others have previously stated. Not that I don't love and adore ELVIS everyday that he lived, and 30 years more, but because not all the public feels the same way I do about him... and many look for any opportunity to ridicule. ELVIS' sweet memory is again starting to be where it should be...let's not take ten steps back.
I ask myself the question, "Would ELVIS himself want it released"?
I can't believe he would.
SweetCaroline
11-25-2007, 09:07 PM
I don`t like watching elvis in 77, it really does brings tears to my eyes, elvis wouoldn`t want people making fun of him cause of the way he looked. i never seen elvis so l guess l really don`t have a say.
:king:You're a fan of ELVIS and a member of this board...you do have a say... and you stated it perfectly.:king: My heart sinks watching ELVIS in 77, too. If you love him... it is hard not to hurt for him... especially now knowing he was leaving us.
SleepyJack
11-26-2007, 11:24 AM
It must be incredible to have real experiences of seeing Elvis in concert at any time....there are a lot of very lucky people out there.Why couldn`t I have been born earlier?!!.....Sometimes my heart hits the top of my head just watching the man on video...
poormansgold
11-26-2007, 12:20 PM
Agreed (y) (although I think this thread was started about Elvis' concerts in general, not the CBS special).
This was debated at some length in other threads.
To release this special as a general release would cause harm to Elvis' image. As I said elsewhere, if it is to be released officially, let it be in an FTD-type format, where fans who know of it and want it can buy it.
"The public has already seen it," says Gary V, somewhat smugly in the link above.
That's crap; the public have only seen some of the best snippets. They would crucify Elvis and us fans if they saw the whole, sordid mess.
How It Harm Elvis' Image, it's didn't did back then In Oct. 3th 77, the real fans know the true about Elvis trouble now, back then we harder know the true about Elvis' life.
We know him as King Of Rock & Roll, not as a person
It can't real Harn his Image, it's will hurt is the famliy is live now. EPE needed to know that It's don't hurt them In money pocket it. It sure put more money in their pockets,
I got my copy of show, it's not bad, The Are You Lonesome Tonight? was Edit .
It's not his best concerts All , It's piece of History that's most us want for the history and for that we like it and we love Elvis' So much.
For me it's for the history It's something we never see again our life time.
I'm not sure I see it was on oct 3th 77.
Tom
ruggishboo
11-26-2007, 12:50 PM
I would of loved to have been able to have seen Elvis in concert. My parents and sister got to see him at the Mid-South Coliseum on March 20, 1974. I've always been envious of that..
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-26-2007, 01:13 PM
How It Harm Elvis' Image, it's didn't did back then In Oct. 3th 77, the real fans know the true about Elvis trouble now, back then we harder know the true about Elvis' life.
We know him as King Of Rock & Roll, not as a person
It can't real Harn his Image, it's will hurt is the famliy is live now. EPE needed to know that It's don't hurt them In money pocket it. It sure put more money in their pockets,
I got my copy of show, it's not bad, The Are You Lonesome Tonight? was Edit .
It's not his best concerts All , It's piece of History that's most us want for the history and for that we like it and we love Elvis' So much.
For me it's for the history It's something we never see again our life time.
I'm not sure I see it was on oct 3th 77.
Tom
Tom, IMO there is definitely a direct correlation to the CBS Show and Elvis' Image. When this show was screened it sent shock-waves across the world as the vast majority of the world hadn't seen or heard from Elvis since the Aloha show, the comparison is stark! For many the Image from the CBS show is the one they most associate with the 70's Elvis, to say the CBS show didn't harm Elvis is quite frankly not true. The CBS Show IMO has given licence to the many thousands of overweight, bespectacled Impersonators who have latched on to an Image and taken it to another level which has now turned into a grotesque characterisation of the truth. The public ridicules this Image which to them personifies the 70's Elvis.
There is very little in the way of professional footage of Elvis from 73-77 so what we do have is what the wider public have watched and formed an opinion on, it is only the die hard fans that will show any enthusiasm for grainy footage shot by amateurs.
Over the years the CBS Image is slowly dissipating due to the fact the casual fan is not concerned in looking for this relatively hard to find DVD (ebay is not Amazon by any means), EPE has however released 'Aloha', '68 Special' and 'Thats The Way It Is' so these Images are the ones that will hopefully prevail in the public consciousness.
A release of the CBS show IMO will set back his credibility 30 years.
ksimms2
11-26-2007, 01:14 PM
Back to the topic!
I saw Elvis 25 times, kissed him twice and got 4 scarves! Yes, he was struggling in EIC but then again he died 2 months after it was recorded. He was in bad shape, mentally and physically. But, bless his heart he never quit trying to please a crowd! When in reality he should have been trying to help himself. I didn't see that until I saw EIC! Yes, it made me cry and I have a hard time watching it 30 years later! Not because I think he was fat or on drugs but because it hurts me to see him hurting the way he was and to know way too late that nobody noticed until it was too late!
yes, I also agree with what you said and the way you said it......it wasn't because he was fat or anything - you can obviously tell he is ill and it's a shame something wasn't done sooner.....well said! (y)
ksimms2
11-26-2007, 01:17 PM
I don't think it's a question of anyone waiting in line to trash Elvis, but I do agree with Matt's observation. To release it to the general public does mean that places like Amamzon.com are going to review it. And when they do, to quote Getlo, "they will slay him for it." I don't see any other way..it would be too difficult to give it a great review. Unlike some others.....I care a GREAT deal what people think and say about Elvis. It's kind of like a member of the family........I can say it was not Elvis at his best, but I take great offense at the casual observer who decides to roast him over this performance. (n)
well said Rosanne! (y) Elvis needs to be remembered in his prime, looking good, sounding good, etc. We all love him no matter what - but others - well they don't and will make fun not realizing what kind of human being he was.
utmom2008
11-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Tom, IMO there is definitely a direct correlation to the CBS Show and Elvis' Image. When this show was screened it sent shock-waves across the world as the vast majority of the world hadn't seen or heard from Elvis since the Aloha show, the comparison is stark! For many the Image from the CBS show is the one they most associate with the 70's Elvis, to say the CBS show didn't harm Elvis is quite frankly not true. The CBS Show IMO has given licence to the many thousands of overweight, bespectacled Impersonators who have latched on to an Image and taken it to another level which has now turned into a grotesque characterisation of the truth. The public ridicules this Image which to them personifies the 70's Elvis.
There is very little in the way of professional footage of Elvis from 73-77 so what we do have is what the wider public have watched and formed an opinion on, it is only the die hard fans that will show any enthusiasm for grainy footage shot by amateurs.
Over the years the CBS Image is slowly dissipating due to the fact the casual fan is not concerned in looking for this relatively hard to find DVD (ebay is not Amazon by any means), EPE has however released 'Aloha', '68 Special' and 'Thats The Way It Is' so these Images are the ones that will hopefully prevail in the public consciousness.
A release of the CBS show IMO will set back his credibility 30 years.
Well said!! :D:D For the longest time the casual observer has 2 images of Elvis....the gold lame 1956 Elvis, or the Elvis of 1977. You are correct...that's where all the overweight impersonators get their material from. That is the image that is mocked, has been mocked for 30 years. To release it will be taking a GIANT step backwards. :notworthy :notworthy
cameron
11-26-2007, 01:24 PM
There really is a thread about that concert with opinions.
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=8748
This one asked about seeing him in person.:)
I did once. ;)
I have mixed feelings about releasing EIC I guess.The special absolutely damaged Elvis' image when released.It was jaw dropping actually.After 30 years I just dont know if an official release would do any harm.I just have my doubts that the media or general public would really even take notice of it.I think it's possible we may be exaggerating the impact of it's release.I think only the fans would even know it's out.It's a tough call because it is part of history and I can see that angle for wanting it out.I guess Im on the fence.
Jak
To me its no different than the image many have had of Elvis as a shy humble country boy- who never drank, never smoked,-never got addicted to drugs of any kind. The flaws are there and its been pointed out many times in this forum. In the name of truth -you have to acknowledge them some have said. EPE has been accused of trying to sanitize him over the past 30 years in and to pretend from 74-77 did not happen.
Well by being against releasing EIC isn't that the same thing-pretending it did not happen? During the last year I saw the clips of "Unchained Melody" several times on network newscasts including the CBS news, Larry King etc...people know what Elvis looked like at the end. It is heart wrenching to watch and it saddens me. I wish people would realise that was not his total life of performing. He was not the person in that special-for 42 years.
But if we are going to talk about and dissect his personal habits, addictions, sex life, temper etc...all of which I believe he would want kept private I can not see why releasing his last TV special is any different. As I said earlier- IMO- he probably would not want the special shown. But I'm also of the opinion he'd want his private life private.
Getlo
11-26-2007, 08:37 PM
How It Harm Elvis' Image, it's didn't did back then In Oct. 3th 77, the real fans know the true about Elvis trouble now, back then we harder know the true about Elvis' life.
We know him as King Of Rock & Roll, not as a person
It can't real Harn his Image, it's will hurt is the famliy is live now.
Tom, come on!
Were you around in 1977? Remember when the special aired for the first time? The press had a field day.
Yes, most good reviewers managed to discuss Elvis' voice as the primary factor, but even they said how awful he looked.
If EIC was that great, it would have been shown a lot more than ... once.
Of course it can still harm his image: it's the fat Elvis there, mumbling and struggling. Yes, we fans know the story but the general public may not. They will judge it on what they see.
And what they'd see is a man near death, a shadow of his former self. As Diane said, he should have been in a hospital by this time.
utmom2008
11-26-2007, 09:07 PM
I DID see Elvis in concert; but only once. This was in 1977 and I became an instant fan. So, if he was "bad" ,I never noticed .
Were you NOT a fan before 1977? If not....what made you decide to go see him at that point?:hmm:
Getlo
11-26-2007, 09:19 PM
Were you NOT a fan before 1977? If not....what made you decide to go see him at that point?:hmm:
And which date/location was it?
cameron
11-26-2007, 09:24 PM
Were you NOT a fan before 1977? If not....what made you decide to go see him at that point?:hmm:
No, I wasn't a "fan" as some would mean today.
I had some of his music. Didn't like most of his movies . I felt they were "feel good" movies and everyone had a good time when we went.
Some business aquaintances had tickets and surprised us with them..
We all went and I "saw what everyone else saw."
There's no comparison just to listen to a tape, CD, DVD or anything else, IMO.To get the full effect and understanding ; one would have to be there .\It's a shame everyone couldn't have that experience.
cameron
11-26-2007, 09:30 PM
And which date/location was it?
March 26 - Norman, Oklahoma. at Univ. Of Oklahoma
I was going to another one in Springfield, Mo. but, we couldn't make it.
I was pretty shocked when I heard he died.
Donut
11-27-2007, 06:15 AM
But if we are going to talk about and dissect his personal habits, addictions, sex life, temper etc...all of which I believe he would want kept private I can not see why releasing his last TV special is any different. As I said earlier- IMO- he probably would not want the special shown. But I'm also of the opinion he'd want his private life private.
Because contrary of what it may seem we donīt like to dwell on the bad.
Because contrary of what it may seem we donīt like to dwell on the bad.
I would hope no one likes dwelling on the bad-not just here but for life in general.
AlohafromEngland
11-27-2007, 01:49 PM
My 1st post - my opinion on EiC. Having recently bought the cd I found it to be alot better than expected. As for the possible release of the dvd I would be all for it. I'm 23 and most people may age know 2 images of Elvis 1. The Jailhouse Rock/Hound Dog and a cartoon fancy dress version of Elvis although how many people my age have really seen a 77 elvis picture isnt probably that many. The reason why I don't think it would be such a bad thing for the release of Elvis In Concert DVD is the fact that unless your an Elvis fan your not going to be too bothered,like if the beatles had a concert dvd coming out i wouldnt even notice. cos there isnt going to be no major tv advert campaign for any elvis dvd. The only image they see now of EP is the late50's or TTWII images that are on things such as Calenders etc [/I][/I]
cameron
11-27-2007, 07:44 PM
:welcome:
My 1st post - my opinion on EiC. Having recently bought the cd I found it to be alot better than expected. As for the possible release of the dvd I would be all for it. I'm 23 and most people may age know 2 images of Elvis 1. The Jailhouse Rock/Hound Dog and a cartoon fancy dress version of Elvis although how many people my age have really seen a 77 elvis picture isnt probably that many. The reason why I don't think it would be such a bad thing for the release of Elvis In Concert DVD is the fact that unless your an Elvis fan your not going to be too bothered,like if the beatles had a concert dvd coming out i wouldnt even notice. cos there isnt going to be no major tv advert campaign for any elvis dvd. The only image they see now of EP is the late50's or TTWII images that are on things such as Calenders etc [/I][/I]
I'm glad you enjoyed the DVD and appreciate your opinion from the "younger
bunch." :)I agree with you; from the "older bunch."
Hope you have fun here . :welcome:
john carpenter
11-27-2007, 09:00 PM
I have Elvis in Concert on dvd(omaha,Grand Rapid shows)I bought it off Ebay,and even though Elvis looks worn out and in some songs his voice was nt at its best,Elvis performed his heart out in that last tour.And the comment by Vernon was very hard to watch because he was in mourning,My question is..When Vernon was speaking two men walk by the back windows,who look alot like Elvis and the Colonel,explain that to me? Im not saying it was them but check it out for yourselves.
Tony Trout
11-27-2007, 09:27 PM
And the comment by Vernon was very hard to watch because he was in mourning,My question is..When Vernon was speaking two men walk by the back windows,who look alot like Elvis and the Colonel,explain that to me? Im not saying it was them but check it out for yourselves.
This particular topic has been covered before...it's not Elvis and the Colonel because Elvis had passed away nearly two months prior to Vernon taping that statement for the "Elvis In Concert" television special....
And (as an extra bit of info) the shows for EIC were filmed in Omaha, NE and Rapid City, SD on June 19 & 21, 1977.....
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