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Suzan
11-18-2007, 06:36 AM
Lisa addressed the empty spot at the gravesite's next to her "grandma" referring to Dodger (Minnie Mae), I am wondering if Pris will request to be buried there?
God I hope not, but I can just see Pris doing something like that to ensure everlasting connection to "Presley" and her role at Graceland, etc...

What do you guys think? Not to start anything heated, just curious what other fans thought.

MissyM
11-18-2007, 06:39 AM
I've thought of that. When you think of it, where else could she go? Hey what do Scientologist think happens to the soul? Oh that is a whole different subject and we'll be off topic. But since she never actually remarried and Lisa owns the land, I'm guessing that is where she think she belongs. I mean, really she is in fantacy land thinking she never divorced him and all.

Suzan
11-18-2007, 07:00 AM
I've thought of that. When you think of it, where else could she go? Hey what do Scientologist think happens to the soul? Oh that is a whole different subject and we'll be off topic. But since she never actually remarried and Lisa owns the land, I'm guessing that is where she think she belongs. I mean, really she is in fantacy land thinking she never divorced him and all.

Apologies folks, taking a stroll down a side road for a few seconds, lol, Scientology teaches that the soul goes on in the universe and that we have to make the world a better place now for when we return later, etc...

Operating Thetan

By "operating" is meant "able to act and handle things" and by "thetan" is meant the spiritual being that is the basic self. "Theta" is Greek for thought or life or the spirit. An Operating Thetan then is one who can handle things without having to use a body of physical means. Basically one is oneself, can handle things and exist without physical support and assistance. It doesn't mean one becomes God. It means one becomes wholly oneself.

K, nuff w/that....

She could be buried in L.A. maybe in a Beaulieu family plot? Yes Lisa owns the land but I think Pris thinks she does as well, I don't know if Lisa plans on it being her final resting place, that must be very creepy seeing that empty spot and thinking about it...she once said (jokingly) that she should have her head put in a jar and placed in the living room to have more visitors, or something like that, so I think she does think about the grave area, as for Pris, I seriously hope not, unless they plan on expanding the section???????

I think she knows full well she divorced him, she is just as of late choosing to ignore that because she likes the title of "widow" a lot more, suits her financial plans. LOL

Getlo
11-18-2007, 07:07 AM
Hey what do Scientologist think happens to the soul?

High Lord Xenu collects your soul when you die, and he takes you to the planet Crapola! ;)

jak
11-18-2007, 07:09 AM
Graceland along with Meditation Garden is a tourist attraction.Nobody will ever be buried there.Thes epeople have their own lives now with their own families.
Jak

Suzan
11-18-2007, 07:09 AM
High Lord Xenu collects your soul when you die, and he takes you to the planet Crapola! ;)

:lmfao::doh: your on a roll! :D lol

Suzan
11-18-2007, 07:11 AM
Graceland along with Meditation Garden is a tourist attraction.Nobody will ever be buried there.Thes epeople have their own lives now with their own families.
Jak

Will if Lisa says so.:D It was a tourist attraction when Elvis was buried there, not to degree it is now, but fans always were at Graceland's gates...it was tourist place when Vernon was buried there and tourst place when Minnie Mae was buried there (the latter two, Meditation Garden was open for visitors). :)

Getlo
11-18-2007, 07:12 AM
Now that Graceland is an officially-recognised historical attraction, it is no longer legally possible to bury anyone (else) there.

Lisa will never be buried at Graceland.

And nor will anyone else.

Suzan
11-18-2007, 07:14 AM
Now that Graceland is an officially-recognised historical attraction, it is no longer legally possible to bury anyone (else) there.

Lisa will never be buried at Graceland.

And nor will anyone else.

Really? Is that a stipulation of the Historical society? I don't remember reading that, interesting, even though she is the owner of said property?

Johnny
11-18-2007, 07:37 AM
I gotta ask; what's with the obsession about Lisa?

Suzan
11-18-2007, 07:38 AM
I gotta ask; what's with the obsession about Lisa?

:lmfao: no obsession, where are you getting that anyone is "obsessed"? :lmfao::doh: Too funny, and this topic is about Pris...sorry to burst any bubbles on the Lisa train of thought.

Johnny
11-18-2007, 07:55 AM
Mind you, I'm asking respectfully - you seem to adore Lisa (and mention her very often, thus the "obsession" question) and bashing Priscilla every chance you get.

...before I get flamed, I neither like them nor dislike them

riley
11-18-2007, 08:03 AM
don't see any obsession with Lisa here at all.:doh::doh:

we do like her tough

MojoElvis
11-18-2007, 08:06 AM
I think I would hurl if that happened...that'd be one of the biggest jokes. As far as using Elvis for his money, I put her right below The Colonel

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:09 AM
Mind you, I'm asking respectfully - you seem to adore Lisa (and mention her very often, thus the "obsession" question) and bashing Priscilla every chance you get.

...before I get flamed, I neither like them nor dislike them

I think that I've stated my reason's for my thoughts in previous posts (if you have the time to browse thru :) sufficiently to where I don't feel I need to rehash it....I am not alone in my thinking so kindly refrain from singling me out. Thank you.

No Riley, no obsession whatsover and I find it quite comical that some may see it that way, she is referenced in the context that she is his daughter, heir, owner of Graceland and it's property, mother to his grandchildren, a musician in her own right, and someone he adored. How a fan of Elvis is indifferent one way or another I don't understand but then again am not in that person's shoes. :D

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:10 AM
I think I would hurl if that happened...that'd be one of the biggest jokes. As far as using Elvis for his money, I put her right below The Colonel

Your not alone in that sentiment.

Oh and I forgot to address, yes I do like Lisa, I found her to be quite a lovely person.:D

riley
11-18-2007, 08:14 AM
I like Lisa too, a lot.

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:17 AM
I like Lisa too, a lot.

(y) :D she's quite lovely and generous.:D

K but I just love it when people hijack a thread and turn it into something it is not lol so back to topic...

Anyone else think of this?.....and I am trying to find out, per Getlo's fascinating post, if in fact it would be against Historical Societies rules to have addt'l. burials at Graceland?

cameron
11-18-2007, 08:35 AM
http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=6180&highlight=priscilla+buried

Here's quite a long thread with peoples opinion about what they think of Priscilla being buried at Graceland. ;)

As to the legalties of burying anyone else there ; I have no idea.
I don't think that was in the Historical Society description.

riley
11-18-2007, 08:36 AM
why should it be forbidden being a historical landmark???
There are alreaddy 4 people burried and there is still place

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:41 AM
why should it be forbidden being a historical landmark???
There are alreaddy 4 people burried and there is still place

I know makes no sense.

Cameron I don't think it's in the Historical landmark, I don't remember reading it there.

Near my father in law, there is a private cemetary, for the family of the founders of Yorba Linda Ca., it too is part of the historical society and family was allowed to be buried there til the descendants were no longer wanting to and no longer decesdants left.

orwell1976
11-18-2007, 08:44 AM
Elvis' Grandmother, his mother and his dad are burried at Graceland. So it would be a logical step to burry Lisa and Priscilla (how long does it take for plastic to rot?) there, too. I wouldn't have a problem with the fact that the whole family is buried there.

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:45 AM
Elvis' Grandmother, his mother and his dad are burried at Graceland. So it would be a logical step to burry Lisa and Priscilla (how long does it take for plastic to rot?) there, too. I wouldn't have a problem with the fact that the whole family is buried there.

I agree w/the exception of Pris. and ROF @ the plastic comment.

riley
11-18-2007, 08:47 AM
I guess Lisa will decide when time has come but it would not be so odd for her to have her father and mother together.

But I don't think <Pris will end up there, I think she will choose LA for her final resting place.

She never cared for Memphis very much either

Suzan
11-18-2007, 09:16 AM
I guess Lisa will decide when time has come but it would not be so odd for her to have her father and mother together.

But I don't think <Pris will end up there, I think she will choose LA for her final resting place.

She never cared for Memphis very much either

I 100% agree w/all you've said w/exception of Pris ending up there, I don't think Lisa would do that????? But I don't know, however, I do think Pris will end up in L.A..(y)

cameron
11-18-2007, 11:46 AM
I tried looking into the Laws concerning burial at Historical Sites .
Most concerned the American Indian burial sites.

I did see where MLK Jr. wife was buried where he was.
It's recognized as an Historical Site and she passed away just last year .
That was his wife, of course. ;)
Guess it would be decided case by case.
But, I don't think Priscilla or Lisa wants to be buried at Graceland, IMO.

TLC67
11-18-2007, 01:44 PM
I think Lisa will be buried at Graceland and Cilla in L.A..

KPM
11-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Now that Graceland is an officially-recognised historical attraction, it is no longer legally possible to bury anyone (else) there.
Lisa will never be buried at Graceland.

And nor will anyone else.
From what I have read that is not true:http://www.nps.gov/history/nhl/
6. How will Landmark designation affect my ability to make changes to my property?

Listing of private property as a National Historic Landmark or on the National Register does not prohibit under Federal law or regulations any actions which may otherwise be taken by the property owner with respect to the property. The National Park Service may recommend to owners various preservation actions, but owners are not obligated to carry out these recommendations. They are free to make whatever changes they wish if Federal funding, licensing or permits are not involved. (Questions regarding Federal involvement are answered in the next section.) Federal laws that involve National Historic Landmarks are listed in the Federal regulations governing this program, specifically in 36 CFR 65.2 "Effects of Designation" (c)(1-7).

If I am reading this correct since Graceland is not Federally funded, and as long as all proper permits are issued by Memphis, Lisa could do whatever she wants-presumably also including burial there if the state and city would allow it.

ksimms2
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
Pris being buried at Graceland? HELL TO THE NO! Lisa yes.....Pris....no way!

SleepyJack
11-18-2007, 05:24 PM
Naturally I would prefer if Priscilla wasn`t buried at Graceland.....isn`t there some law that says something about the smell of sh*t at a historical site?:hmm:

jak
11-18-2007, 05:34 PM
Will if Lisa says so.:D It was a tourist attraction when Elvis was buried there, not to degree it is now, but fans always were at Graceland's gates...it was tourist place when Vernon was buried there and tourst place when Minnie Mae was buried there (the latter two, Meditation Garden was open for visitors). :)

Graceland was still a home when those people were buried.It's no longer a home by any sense of imagination.Nobody is going to be buried at geaceland ever again.
Jak

cameron
11-18-2007, 05:41 PM
From what I have read that is not true:http://www.nps.gov/history/nhl/
6. How will Landmark designation affect my ability to make changes to my property?

Listing of private property as a National Historic Landmark or on the National Register does not prohibit under Federal law or regulations any actions which may otherwise be taken by the property owner with respect to the property. The National Park Service may recommend to owners various preservation actions, but owners are not obligated to carry out these recommendations. They are free to make whatever changes they wish if Federal funding, licensing or permits are not involved. (Questions regarding Federal involvement are answered in the next section.) Federal laws that involve National Historic Landmarks are listed in the Federal regulations governing this program, specifically in 36 CFR 65.2 "Effects of Designation" (c)(1-7).

If I am reading this correct since Graceland is not Federally funded, and as long as all proper permits are issued by Memphis, Lisa could do whatever she wants-presumably also including burial there if the state and city would allow it.

That's the way I understand it too.
As long as the state and city allows; she can do whatever she wants.
I can't imagine Lisa or Priscilla agreeing to any restrictions by the government .

utmom2008
11-18-2007, 07:29 PM
I can see Priscilla wanting to be buried at Graceland...that way she can "rest in peace" knowing that she will forever be associated with Elvis;);) Sadly....the more I think about it, the more I see it.:mad: I don't know about Lisa..I guess that depends on her age and the status of her children and such:hmm: At some point in any family someone has to be the brave one and branch off and start their own plot..so to speak;) ;)

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:38 PM
From what I have read that is not true:http://www.nps.gov/history/nhl/
6. How will Landmark designation affect my ability to make changes to my property?

Listing of private property as a National Historic Landmark or on the National Register does not prohibit under Federal law or regulations any actions which may otherwise be taken by the property owner with respect to the property. The National Park Service may recommend to owners various preservation actions, but owners are not obligated to carry out these recommendations. They are free to make whatever changes they wish if Federal funding, licensing or permits are not involved. (Questions regarding Federal involvement are answered in the next section.) Federal laws that involve National Historic Landmarks are listed in the Federal regulations governing this program, specifically in 36 CFR 65.2 "Effects of Designation" (c)(1-7).

If I am reading this correct since Graceland is not Federally funded, and as long as all proper permits are issued by Memphis, Lisa could do whatever she wants-presumably also including burial there if the state and city would allow it.

Thank you I didn't remember reading that it couldn't be done. And as for the State and City why would they deny when they've allowed it starting in 1977 and ending w/Minnie Mae. If Lisa chose to I do believe she could.

Suzan
11-18-2007, 08:39 PM
Graceland was still a home when those people were buried.It's no longer a home by any sense of imagination.Nobody is going to be buried at geaceland ever again.
Jak

I beg to differ. :)
And how can you be so positive, w/that last sentence? Do you know something we don't?

Getlo
11-19-2007, 04:45 AM
Graceland was still a home when those people were buried.It's no longer a home by any sense of imagination.Nobody is going to be buried at geaceland ever again.

Yep. (y) Mark our words here and now, folks.

It ain't gonna happen!

KPM
11-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Yep. (y) Mark our words here and now, folks.

It ain't gonna happen!
Truthfully I don't know what Lisa will want for herself or for Priscilla but the question of "whether it can be done"- is it can I'm pretty sure- from a legal standpoint. As I have quoted before The laws for National Landmarks do not prohibit it from being done. As long as local statuates are followed and no federal money is involved Any historic landmark "privately owned" can be altered. This would be a matter for the city of Memphis and the state of Tennesee to decide if it might come up.
Memphis depends on tourists to keep their citys economy growing- I can see where down the line they might like to see Lisa buried near her father. I don't know how they might feel about Priscilla. I think it boils down to would it help attract visitors to Memphis. Lisa buried near her father might be fitting in many peoples eyes. Priscilla could be a push.

presley31
11-19-2007, 02:41 PM
I don't really think priscilla would want to buried at graceland, theres no reason why she would want that when she spent along time in LA and seems to enjoy it. Lisa kids will have to decide where Lisa gets bureid or where Lisa states she wants to go, but l don't think she wants to be buried there either.

Suzan
11-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Lisa in a couple of interviews has made mention of the space next to her grandmother (really great grandmother, Minnie) waiting for her, so she could very well request that she be buried there, but that is her decision and one decades away from here.
My ? was about Pris....and legally, @ least going by the cemetary and what Cameron said about the wife, I don't think it would be a problem for more people to be buried at Graceland (Pris and Lisa) if they so chose. :D