View Full Version : Ernest Young thinks he is Elvis’ son.
presley31
11-02-2007, 07:48 AM
Ernest Young, or Jason Presley as he believes he is called, claims he is the 50-year-old son of Elvis Presley.
In a court hearing yesterday, he was sentenced to jail after years of threatening Graceland and several judges in his efforts to claim $700 million from the Estate – what he believes he is entitled to as his heir.
Not Surprisingly the Estate did not take any notice of his demands, so he started to pester several judges, accusing Graceland of criminal acts that included rape, murder and extortion.
The charge of retaliation against a judge earned him sentance a of zero to five years for a third-degree felony, but having already served 520 days in jail, he may be released on probation with mental health supervision
Tony Trout
11-02-2007, 07:51 AM
Geez, another one comes out of the wood work...it doesn't look like it's ever goona end...
presley31
11-02-2007, 07:52 AM
Some people just don't know when to stop.
Tony Trout
11-02-2007, 07:54 AM
Some people just don't know when to stop.
I agree...
Thanks for posting this though...even though this stuff is crazy to read, it sure does give me a good laugh to start my day...:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
toffe
11-02-2007, 08:08 AM
A good laugh! ;)
Diane
11-02-2007, 09:24 AM
Sounds like this guy will need all the supervision he can get. :)
Diane
Burning_Love
11-02-2007, 09:33 AM
Lol yes Diane !! :D
Rover
11-02-2007, 09:43 AM
Wow, that's pretty scary...Good luck to the mental health supervision guys :)
Btw, do they have the DNA of Elvis to recognize false illegitimate children?
presley31
11-02-2007, 09:45 AM
Its up to lisa to give a DNA, don't know if she ever did.
Shelly
11-02-2007, 09:54 AM
My god anything to try to make a name for them selves. This stuff will go on forever and ever.
marijaep
11-02-2007, 10:20 AM
lol, sounds very very silly......:lmfao:
Tommy
11-02-2007, 10:28 AM
Yes, they should have DNA, that would put a stop to all this crazy stuff.
cameron
11-02-2007, 10:51 AM
You'd think there is DNA from Elvis' hospital stays, etc.
Just because BMH was destroyed ; some things are still stored elsewhere.
I don't think Lisa should have to come up with anything, IMO.
There has always been and always will be claims like this made.
Even before he died .
presley31
11-02-2007, 11:06 AM
You'd think there is DNA from Elvis' hospital stays, etc.
Just because BMH was destroyed ; some things are still stored elsewhere.
I don't think Lisa should have to come up with anything, IMO.
There has always been and always will be claims like this made.
Even before he died .
Lisa blood is the same as elvis, they can use her if they wanted a DNA test.
cameron
11-02-2007, 11:15 AM
Lisa would be busy providing DNA through all these years .
I think she just ignores all she can.
Yes, her blood/DNA would prove it. As far as I know, she's refused before.
I can't say I blame her .;)
Suzan
11-02-2007, 12:25 PM
Lisa has not given DNA, she figures (rightly so) that if she started doing that, well imagine all the kooks that would come out. LOL
She chooses to ignore all of it, including that other nut who said she was the real Lisa Marie Presley.
What is wrong w/people?
Merry
11-02-2007, 02:06 PM
It's pretty sad, that the man is obviously unbalanced.
I hope that someone cares for him.
Kim
goodelvisgirl
11-02-2007, 03:12 PM
well there is always another crazy story in the elvis world i bet in 70 years time people will still be saying i am the child from elvis when that would be almost impossible
SleepyJack
11-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Give him a few months in the "Big House" and he`ll think he`s Vince Everett!.....
Getlo
11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this, as it goes against my grain as a naturally unempathetic person, but ...
... the jailing of an obviously mentally distrubed individual is not a laughing matter. Think of his friends and family. Think of him. If he seriously believes he is Elvis' child, can you imagine the mental anguish that would cause in his world?
Yes, it may amuse us as fans, and - from what I see on here - even gladden some. But it ain't funny.
To save all this type of fuss in the future, Lisa should take the time to give a sample of her DNA - a small amount of blood for instance. Then, when someone comes forward, do the DNA test. Store the blood in Memphis. Make the DNA test at the claimant's expense. Once each claimant is informed that a DNA test is available - and a non-optional step into pursuing their case - I'm betting that 99.999% of them would walk out then and there, right at the first visit to the lawyer's office.
Although, the case against this of course is ... the odds of another child of Elvis running around out there are roughly 101% (!) so when that one person who really is the King's progeny comes forward, the Estate would lose a bundle.
Hmm .. okay, scratch my DNA idea!
elvislady
11-02-2007, 05:38 PM
another oddball.
elvislady;)
SleepyJack
11-02-2007, 05:42 PM
I doubt if anyone can really be "gladdened" by the imprisoning of anyone who is mentally ill......not everyone who makes a joke is being intentionally insulting........but it is very tiresome hearing all these bloody stories over and over again.....and sometimes you just have to laugh at the absurdity of it all.
Getlo
11-02-2007, 05:47 PM
I doubt if anyone can really be "gladdened" by the imprisoning of anyone who is mentally ill
Well, there's this from an earlier post ... "it sure does give me a good laugh to start my day ..."
Or perhaps it was just amusement at it all ...
As I said, if this guy genuinely believes he's Elvis' kid, he must've been going through hell for many years not being able to get want he thinks he deserves.
Sad, really.
SleepyJack
11-02-2007, 05:59 PM
Sad also that the people in his life would allow him to risk such public humiliation with his claims.....so how do these things get so out of hand...and why can`t they be done without ending up as manna to a hungry media??......Somewhere along the line there must be someone who could have done something.
Suzan
11-02-2007, 07:15 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this, as it goes against my grain as a naturally unempathetic person, but ...
... the jailing of an obviously mentally distrubed individual is not a laughing matter. Think of his friends and family. Think of him. If he seriously believes he is Elvis' child, can you imagine the mental anguish that would cause in his world?
Yes, it may amuse us as fans, and - from what I see on here - even gladden some. But it ain't funny.
To save all this type of fuss in the future, Lisa should take the time to give a sample of her DNA - a small amount of blood for instance. Then, when someone comes forward, do the DNA test. Store the blood in Memphis. Make the DNA test at the claimant's expense. Once each claimant is informed that a DNA test is available - and a non-optional step into pursuing their case - I'm betting that 99.999% of them would walk out then and there, right at the first visit to the lawyer's office.
Although, the case against this of course is ... the odds of another child of Elvis running around out there are roughly 101% (!) so when that one person who really is the King's progeny comes forward, the Estate would lose a bundle.
Hmm .. okay, scratch my DNA idea!
LOL ;) :D True all of it though I don't fully think that there is another child out there...would be nice though.
Diane
11-02-2007, 07:56 PM
I'm in agreement with Suzan and Getlo, don't think there is another child out there but the will states "legal child" so they wouldn't inherit anything anyway. Yes, I think Lisa should have some blood kept to be tested whenever someone like this makes a claim. She's probably just tired of so many that she's just turning her back on the rest.
Diane
Dorothy
11-02-2007, 08:10 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this, as it goes against my grain as a naturally unempathetic person, but ...
... the jailing of an obviously mentally distrubed individual is not a laughing matter. Think of his friends and family. Think of him. If he seriously believes he is Elvis' child, can you imagine the mental anguish that would cause in his world?
Yes, it may amuse us as fans, and - from what I see on here - even gladden some. But it ain't funny.
To save all this type of fuss in the future, Lisa should take the time to give a sample of her DNA - a small amount of blood for instance. Then, when someone comes forward, do the DNA test. Store the blood in Memphis. Make the DNA test at the claimant's expense. Once each claimant is informed that a DNA test is available - and a non-optional step into pursuing their case - I'm betting that 99.999% of them would walk out then and there, right at the first visit to the lawyer's office.
Although, the case against this of course is ... the odds of another child of Elvis running around out there are roughly 101% (!) so when that one person who really is the King's progeny comes forward, the Estate would lose a bundle.
Hmm .. okay, scratch my DNA idea!
I agree, I think Lisa should give a DNA sample, just to squash some or all of these claims.
I wonder if she's afraid that one might be legit.
Suzan
11-02-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm in agreement with Suzan and Getlo, don't think there is another child out there but the will states "legal child" so they wouldn't inherit anything anyway. Yes, I think Lisa should have some blood kept to be tested whenever someone like this makes a claim. She's probably just tired of so many that she's just turning her back on the rest.
Diane
Hi Diane!:D:D (y) I agree w/your last sentence, wholeheartedly!
No I don't think she's afraid one is legit, @ least I hope not, just prob. figures if she does it for one, LOTS more of these claims would start coming out of the woodwork. I think she may feel best to ignore it and it will die down, rather then if she responds and it gets huge press coverage, yada yada yada. :)
Lisarose
11-02-2007, 08:25 PM
This just reminds me of 3000 Miles to Graceland.
And why should LisaMarie have to provide her own DNA? Just how many owners of his silk scarves soaked in Elvis' sweat are out there that could put these rumors to rest? How about the women who clawed chunks of skin from his hands and arm when they got near him? Weren't they equally proud of themselves for having gotten 'a piece of Elvis', I'm sure they still have these - items? (Yeah, I know it's gross! My sincere apologies.) Oh and the kook - uh, excuse me, person who is selling (on eBay)a glass of water that Elvis left on the stage that he swears Elvis actually drank from. I'm only using my CSI/TV knowledge, they state that DNA can be taken from any of the aforementioned matter. It just seems to me that if Elvis made love to these women, getting them pregnant, they were close enough to him to have kept something that would have his DNA. It's odd to think that only fans keep mementos of their beloved Elvis.
Getlo
11-02-2007, 08:28 PM
I agree, I think Lisa should give a DNA sample, just to squash some or all of these claims. I wonder if she's afraid that one might be legit.
Say what you like about her (and believe me, I do!) but Lisa is a very savvy woman (*****ic marriages notwithstanding).
Obviously, there is a chance at least one claimant would be genuine issue of Elvis. And one would be all it took to rock the family and the estate for six!
She is smart enough to know that she has at least one half-brother or sister out there somewhere.
The King's Queen
11-03-2007, 07:58 AM
Say what you like about her (and believe me, I do!) but Lisa is a very savvy woman (*****ic marriages notwithstanding).
Obviously, there is a chance at least one claimant would be genuine issue of Elvis. And one would be all it took to rock the family and the estate for six!
She is smart enough to know that she has at least one half-brother or sister out there somewhere.
STOP THE PRESSES! I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH GETLO!!! :supriced: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Sorry Getlo, just had to make light of that...;)
I do agree though...the probability is very good that another child could be out there. Guess Lisa does not want any siblings to surface, otherwise she would have come forth with DNA. It would create quite a "messy" situation though, so I guess I can understand her being hesitant to do so. But every child is entitled to know their heritage....and I think that it is a slap in the face to deny someone the right to prove their parentage. Is there not a law that would make this possible??? Just my thoughts....:king:
presley31
11-03-2007, 08:01 AM
I don't lisa will ever give DNA for anybody.
Diane
11-03-2007, 08:19 AM
Reading all these posts, I have so many mixed feelings about this. The clearest thing that comes up with me is that if there really is a genuine sibling to Lisa out there that that person would have found a way to prove their claim by now. They would have found some DNA somehow as Lisarose stated, there is lots out there, scarves, drinking glasses etc., but I guess it would still come down to Lisa to prove that the DNA on these items matched.
I do feel sorry for someone who is mentally ill and thinks he/she is Elvis' child and also feel that that problem should have been addressed long before it got to that point. You have to remember that the parent of the person is the most likely to blame for claiming to their child that Elvis is their father.
I'm sure that Lisa has been advised by council not to respond to these claims as they would be never ending.
Diane
Lisarose
11-03-2007, 09:18 AM
Diane, I have mixed emotions about this, too. Personally, I just don't feel that it's Lisa Marie's responsibility to prove kinship. Granted she should want to know, but when you're the child of Elvis Presley - someone hugely famous, it would just be constant drama, not to mention heartache. It should be Elvis' responsibility, but of course, he's dead. So now, imo, it should be the mother's responsibility. I know this is harsh, but it's my opinion.
Rover
11-03-2007, 09:32 AM
Talking about DNA...Lisa's DNA wouldn't prove a thing. A kid as 50% of each parents DNA material. So, Lisa has 50% of Elvis' material, imagine...what if another kid got exactly the other 50%, with nothing in common? Ok, that's one chance in a million, but it could happen :P
COL DRIES
11-03-2007, 09:44 AM
Brings Me Back To The Time That Everybody Has Seen Elvis After His Dead !
These Kind Of People Are Real Wasted Time !!
Getlo
11-04-2007, 02:21 AM
. They would have found some DNA somehow as Lisarose stated, there is lots out there, scarves, drinking glasses etc., but I guess it would still come down to Lisa to prove that the DNA on these items
I hate to break it to you all, but you're suffering from the CSI effect.
There would not be enough DNA on these sorts of objects after so long to make any viable comparison.
And you'll just have to trust me on this, but I know whereof I speak.
Getlo
11-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Talking about DNA...Lisa's DNA wouldn't prove a thing. A kid as 50% of each parents DNA material. So, Lisa has 50% of Elvis' material, imagine...what if another kid got exactly the other 50%, with nothing in common? Ok, that's one chance in a million, but it could happen :P
What?
Er, the "other 50%" of Lisa's DNA would match to Priscilla!
Your "one chance in a million" theory is slightly off. Try one chance in never.
Rover
11-04-2007, 05:25 AM
Getlo, I meant...Elvis could have had a kid with someone else than Priscilla. In this case, the kid *could* have nothing in common with Lisa.
Getlo
11-04-2007, 05:34 AM
Getlo, I meant...Elvis could have had a kid with someone else than Priscilla. In this case, the kid *could* have nothing in common with Lisa.
That's not how DNA works!
Obviously, if someone comes forward saying that they're Elvis child, he or she would be a child of another woman besides Priscilla.
The child, in theory, would have Elvis' DNA. As does Lisa. If Elvis was the father of the child, then that child and Lisa would have exactly the same DNA matches, ie 50% Elvis.
So any comparison would be made between Lisa and the child. The father's DNA would be type-matched. If the kid was genuine, it and Lisa would have the same DNA as related to the patriarchal side. Priscilla's DNA would not be relevant in this case.
Rover
11-04-2007, 05:47 AM
The child, in theory, would have Elvis' DNA. As does Lisa. If Elvis was the father of the child, then that child and Lisa would have exactly the same DNA matches, ie 50% Elvis.
You are right, but I was saying, there could be a tiny (very tiny) chance that the two kids got nothing in common. Lisa got 50% of Elvis' DNA, the other kid got the other 50%, and when you put together half of Lisa's material, and half of this kid's material, you got Elvis' whole DNA...That's why I was saying that if you want to claim you're Elvis' illegitimate child, you can't be prooved wrong with a DNA test
Getlo
11-04-2007, 06:02 AM
there could be a tiny (very tiny) chance that the two kids got nothing in common. Lisa got 50% of Elvis' DNA, the other kid got the other 50%
:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:
No, it doesn't work like that ...
I should've more accurately said that Lisa would have DNA that is 50% from Elvis and 50% from Priscilla. Elvis' DNA is Elvis' DNA ... there's no 50% about it.
If someone was proven to be Elvis' child, then that person would have exactly the same traces of Elvis' DNA in them. That person's DNA would be made up of 50% from Elvis, and 50% from the mother.
Both the real child of Elvis and Lisa would have the same patriarchal (Elvis) DNA.
Clear?
Rover
11-04-2007, 06:34 AM
I'm afraid we're saying the same things...I doubt I'm very clear, maybe it's a language problem :P
Ok, look...let's pretend Elvis has 4 chromosomes: >< >< >< ><
Lisa inherits all the red parts: >< >< >< >< (the black parts come from Priscilla)
Another kid got the blues parts: >< >< >< ><
They have the same father, it can be prooved if you compare their DNA to the father's one. But it can't if you compare the illegitimate kid's DNA to Lisa's.
Ok this DNA distribution is very unlikely to happen, it is one possible combination in billions...But if you want to annoy EPE by pretending you're Elvis' kid, that's one argument :D
Getlo
11-04-2007, 06:45 AM
Ok, look...let's pretend Elvis has 4 chromosomes: >< >< >< ><
Lisa inherits all the red parts: >< >< >< >< (the black parts come from Priscilla)
Another kid got the blues parts: >< >< >< ><
They have the same father
Then if they have the same father, the child will have exactly the same red chromosomes as Lisa!
If the kid had different chromosome makeup to that of Lisa's patriarchal DNA, then he or she cannot possibly be Elvis's child.
Look, try Googling DNA to understand it better. I am done trying to explain this further to you. Perhaps someone else might like to try ...
Getlo
11-04-2007, 06:46 AM
Ok this DNA distribution is very unlikely to happen, it is one possible combination in billions...
No, the DNA situation you're suggesting is impossible.
Diane
11-04-2007, 06:46 AM
I see what Getlo is saying (I hope). Any child of Elvis regardless who the mother is carries 50% Elvis DNA and that 50% would be matched with Lisa's and her 50% would be the same as both come from Elvis.
And...you're probably right Getlo about there being enough DNA left on old Elvis items...still slightly possible.
Diane
Unchained Melody
11-04-2007, 07:53 AM
IMO, people who claim such a thing are such people wanting attention brought to themselves, or because they want to see what they can get.
Rover
11-04-2007, 08:41 AM
Ok I give up before becoming as crazy as Ernest Young :P
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