Did Elvis lost weight after his final concert in Indianapolis? [Archive]

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 04:24 PM

I doubt it. Seriously. From everything I've read and heard from fellow fans he spent almost all over July upstairs at Graceland.

Also in one of my books, may have been Elvis The Final Years..it describes a scene sometime in August..him and Ginger were lyin' on the bed and were talking and Elvis put his hand over his midsection and said something to the effect of "the boys outta shape".:hmm:

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 04:26 PM

yes elvis did lose some weight by looking at some of the last pics taken of him llike the pic taken of him august 12-77 elvis looks slimmer

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 04:27 PM

I do not know what photo's you are referring to.:hmm:

Could you please share them with us?

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 06:24 PM

I do not know what photo's you are referring to.:hmm:

Could you please share them with us?well i cant find the pic right now..but i have seen the pic in the gallery.im sure someone will post it..well its not a head to toe pic but we see elvis in his car driving the cadillac entering graceland gates with glasses on waving to the fans..taken on august 12 1977 he does look like he lost weight in that pic he looks good
:king:

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 06:25 PM

How can you say he's lost weight when looking at a photo when he is sitting in a car? Sure he look's good in the face but thats all you can see.

Tony Trout

11-01-2007, 06:32 PM

well i cant find the pic right now..but i have seen the pic in the gallery.im sure someone will post it..well its not a head to toe pic but we see elvis in his car driving the cadillac entering graceland gates with glasses on waving to the fans..taken on august 12 1977 he does look like he lost weight in that pic he looks good
:king:

That pic is from the early morning hours of 8/16/77....not 8/12/77.

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 06:42 PM

That pic is from the early morning hours of 8/16/77....not 8/12/77.no your wrong pic was taken august 12 -77 by shanty parrish she snaped the pic and i bought the pic from her and i have her story about the pic she took on august 12 77 i will post it later ..its titled elvis 4 days before his death written in fall of 78

utmom2008

11-01-2007, 06:53 PM

yes elvis did lose some weight by looking at some of the last pics taken of him llike the pic taken of him august 12-77 elvis looks slimmer
What photo? 4 days before he died?

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 06:57 PM

What photo? 4 days before he died?yes like i mentioned in my post shanty was in memphis on august 12 -77 and she took the pic and had it for sale in 78 i bought it from her..she was from ohio and in amagazine which i have in 78 she posted the pic of elvis with the story about her trip and pic she took(y):king:

Tony Trout

11-01-2007, 06:58 PM

What photo? 4 days before he died?

I'm wondering the same thing...I'd like to see this pic...the only one I'm familiar with is the one from the early morning hours of 8/16/77.

Getlo

11-01-2007, 07:04 PM

If this is the photo you're referring to, epmodyblue, then your information is wrong.

This was indeed taken in the early morning of August 16, and is the last pic of Elvis taken alive (okay, the second-last as there's another one taken a few seconds later but he is obscured).

As for losing weight in June-August, many books suggest he was back to his '75 weight. Which may be true, and would still account for Elvis believing he was still too heavy.

Judging by this pic, however, you can't tell anything ...

Gary1

11-01-2007, 07:04 PM

I've seen a photo of Elvis riding one of his motorbikes on August 14 1977 returning to Graceland after leaving flowers for Gladys at forrest hill cemetery.And he looked slimmer in that photo.

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 07:05 PM

I'm wondering the same thing...I'd like to see this pic...the only one I'm familiar with is the one from the early morning hours of 8/16/77.the pic was taken august 12 -i just bought it from her in 78 she was selling it in various sizes for only 5 dollars back in 78..its prob the same one your talking about lisa ginger are in front seat many believe it was taken on the 16 th but it wasint trust me the date is correct later i will post her story about the pic:king:

Gary1

11-01-2007, 07:07 PM

the pic was taken august 12 -i just bought it from her she was selling it in various sizes for only 5 dollars back in 78..its prob the same one your talking about lisa ginger are in front seat many believe it was taken on the 16 th but it wasint trust me the date is correct later i will post her story about the pic:king:
I know the one you're talking about.It's on the back page of the walk a mile in my shoes boxset booklet.

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 07:11 PM

I know the one you're talking about.It's on the back page of the walk a mile in my shoes boxset booklet.sorry i dont have ascanner to show you the pic but shanty should know*lol* she was there on august 12 th so there is no doubt about it and the story is quite nice(y)

MojoElvis

11-01-2007, 07:14 PM

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 07:21 PM

Elvis went on one his crazy fasting diets only one week before the tour was about to start. That's one of the reasons why the drugs caused his death. The drugs had no place to go, his colon was all chalky and stopped up from the downers.
So no matter what Elvis wore outside of his jumpsuits, he didn't look that bad. He just looked like a slightly overweight man. That sundial suit really made him look worst than he was. Look at the footage of him stepping off the plane before his last show. He looked great. Eventhough I'm a big fan of the sundial suit, I don't think it was the best choice for that time.i see..well its your opinion actually i think the sundial is one of elvis most beautiful jumpsuits elvis was beautiful even in 77 ..i think he should of used 2 piece outfits for all of his 77 tours he would of looked great in those 2 piece suits.he should of used a 2 piece jacket suit like he did in april -may 75 tour for his 77 special

Getlo

11-01-2007, 07:34 PM

I know the one you're talking about.It's on the back page of the walk a mile in my shoes boxset booklet.

Yes, that pic looks similar to the ones from August 16th.

But Elvis' jacket is different, so maybe it was taken on the 12th if that woman's story if true and the photos are the same ...

Diane

11-01-2007, 07:34 PM

The only change I can see in pictures of Elvis in August 1977 was that he no longer looked swollen and bloated which actually made quite a difference in his appearance.

Diane

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 07:56 PM

Yes, that pic looks similar to the ones from August 16th.

But Elvis' jacket is different, so maybe it was taken on the 12th if that woman's story if true and the photos are the same ... yes her story about the pic and date is 100% true the story...august 12 77 we stopped off at graceland around 7 pmi had gone up the driveway a little to get a clear view of the house and nothing seemed to be happening...all of the sudden all of the sudden the front door of the mansion and there was ginger alden.i noticed aman behind her who was wearing a satin pajama and ablue crushed velvet robe they both sat down on the porch and started reading a newspaper.i kept telling myself it couldint be.but the closer i inched up the driveway the more i realised it was elvis in the flesh.. he acted so normal and natural he looked so beautiful just sitting there i was stunned and couldint move..they stayed there on the pourch for about 15 minutes..and then they went back inside graceland...okay i will continue this true story about the pic later tommorow as im tired and i cant type too fast*lol* but its a true story about how shanty was one of the last lucky fans to see elvis alive shortly before his death:'( part 2 tomorrow (y)

Getlo

11-01-2007, 08:03 PM

we stopped off at graceland around 7 pmi had gone up the driveway a little to get a clear view of the house and nothing seemed to be happening...

So ... they were just allowed up the driveway? Hmm. This may be interesting.

they both sat down on the porch and started reading a newspaper.i kept telling myself it couldint be.

Elvis ... sittin' on the front porch at night ... reading a newspaper no less.

I shall reserve my judgement until you post this picture.

As I said ... interesting. ;)

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 08:06 PM

So ... they were just allowed up the driveway? Hmm. This may be interesting.

Elvis ... sittin' on the front porch at night ... reading a newspaper no less.

I shall reserve my judgement until you post this picture.

As I said ... interesting. ;)please dont get nasty with silly comments -if im going to get this kind of feedback then i wont continue with the story...the story is real think whatever you wish.and the pic was real also.so knock it off with the silly comments .for the believers part 2 tomorrow

Getlo

11-01-2007, 08:12 PM

please dont get nasty with silly comments -if im going to get this kind of feedback then i wont continue with the story...the story is real think whatever you wish.and the pic was real also.so knock it off with the silly comments .for the believers part 2 tomorrow

I said it was interesting, epmoodyblue, nothing more. Obviously, I have my doubts going on what has been written so far. Fans just weren't allowed up the driveway unsupervised or without Elvis' permission.

She may very well have taken the pic as featured on the WAM box set - is this the same one, and will you be putting it up?

And can you place her full story - with her own words - on here?

As I said, I shall reserve my full judgement until I see her pics and read her story; but on the one paragraph you've given so far? Not convinced ... yet (?)

presley31

11-01-2007, 08:15 PM

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 08:31 PM

EP Moodyblue, I would love to hear the rest of your story.;)

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 08:37 PM

I said it was interesting, epmoodyblue, nothing more. Obviously, I have my doubts going on what has been written so far. Fans just weren't allowed up the driveway unsupervised or without Elvis' permission.

She may very well have taken the pic as featured on the WAM box set - is this the same one, and will you be putting it up?

And can you place her full story - with her own words - on here?

As I said, I shall reserve my full judgement until I see her pics and read her story; but on the one paragraph you've given so far? Not convinced ... yet (?)not convinced oh well thats ur problem...mabye she meant with binoculars who knows..story is real 100% ..okay a little more on the story..so to continue...so........then they went back inside graceland. id like to stop here to make an important point.people have stated that elvis had his jumpsuits designed to hide his weight.and the problem he had with it.well from what i saw on the pourch that evening he looked stunningly beautiful .i left graceland immediately afterwards i returned aroud 9 pm we sat out the rest of the evening and into the next morning we were on the verge of leaving around 3 30 am..when suddenly elvis ginger and lisa billy and jo smith strolled out of graceland stepped into elvis stutz and left ..part 3 tomorrow ....dont bother me with details story is real shanty in 77 was 16 years old .story was posted with pic in a respectable elvis magazine and when you put pics up for sale and an article to go along with the pic.thats good enough for me..not convinced then thats too bad for you :king:

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 08:39 PM

Thank for that EPMoodyblue. Look forward to reading the rest tomorrow. Thank you for sharing it with us my friend.(y)

epmoodyblue

11-01-2007, 08:51 PM

Thank for that EPMoodyblue. Look forward to reading the rest tomorrow. Thank you for sharing it with us my friend.(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y) well just for you a little more ...then continued then we followed the car(elvis stutz) and waited for about an hour behind the theatre when from out of nowhere the police arrived and forced us to leave.i went back to graceland gates to await elvis return while my mother parked the car.across the street by the shopping center so she could sign me as soon as saw his car coming down the highway ..at almost 5 35 am charlie hodge suddenly drove through the gates..i had gotten to know charlie the past few days in memphis and he had been aware that i have been waiting several nights to see elvis ..well im tired part 4 really tomorrow bye bye (y):king:
:notworthy

Unchained Melody

11-01-2007, 09:03 PM

Thank you very much for that..you stopped went it was getting really good :P..look forward to hearing the rest(y)(y)

Getlo

11-01-2007, 09:16 PM

I'm confused.

Is this woman saying she actually went up the driveway herself and got close to Elvis, or did she see "him" from the fence?

If it was from the fence, and even with binoculars, it would be a hard task - at night - to clearly see anything about Elvis' appearance ... wouldn't it?

And in which "respectable magazine" was this story published? Do you have it to put on here? Or is there are URL link to the story anywhere?

I look forward to the next part ... and some clarification please.

And is it her pic on the back of the 70s box set booklet?

ruggishboo

11-01-2007, 09:30 PM

I'm assuming this is the photo being discussed (courtesy of the gallery here); is this the photo your friend took epmoodyblue?

jak

11-02-2007, 03:24 AM

Fans were allowed beyond the gates at Graceland on occassion by Vester.He drove my wife around the grounds personally in 76.He went to the front of Graceland and pointed to Elvis' bedroom window and said he was sleeping.Then he took her around back for a little tour.
As far as Elvis and Ginger reading a paper on ther porch at night I would be highly skeptical.My wife basically camped out at Graceland waiting for him many times in 76 and 77.She said at that time nobody just sat on the porch.Many times he would hang out in the rear of Graceland.Im not saying he never read a paper on the porch but that story may have been embelished over the years.
My wife met him as he was leaving for the last tour wearing his DEA jogging suit.She said he looked pretty good.Somewhat paunchy but not to bad at that time.
Jak

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 05:45 AM

lots of opinions some are skeptical.its your problem not mines ..im just posting a true story think whatever its your right to do so..no explanations from me about the story or pic are needed what happened that day on aug 12 77 is fact...and the story continues(y) :king:so i had gotten to know charlie the past few days in memphis and he had been aware that i have been waiting several nights to see elvis ..charlie gave me a hand sign letting me know that any minute elvis would be driving through.of all the photographs ive taken of elvis none of them had ever come out well..that night (morning)i was determined to get a good shot pic of elvis..one way or another.i heard my mothers car from across the street and there i spoted elvis.. stutz as it headed towards graceland.. it was pulling in i put the camera up to my face tried to steady my nerves as best i could and prepared myself to focus elvis into my viewfinder...more later ....today story will continue .. bye bye:notworthy:king::clap:

jak

11-02-2007, 06:09 AM

Actually I dont have any problem with the story because it has no meaning to me personally.Im just saying it's possible but not probable or completely plausible.When Elvis was awake and moving about the fans usually were not allowed to walk up the driveway.Even part of the way.That's a fact.Many would rush right up to the house if Elvis was just sitting on the porch.Common sense.
Jak

rickb

11-02-2007, 06:47 AM

I agree he looked worse on stage than off.
Most of the photos of his last week he looks okay. There are shots on the 12th and 16th, (they look similar) some daytime photos of him driving in a car with Vernon and a night shot with Lisa and Ginger on a motorbike.
It is interesting that he seemed relatively active in the last week.

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 07:28 AM

so..........it was pulling in i put the camera up to my face tried to steady my nerves as best i could and prepared myself to focus elvis into my viewfinder.a crowd had matearialized flashcubes popping all over the place as i spotted elvis making a right on presley blvd amd pulling up the gates which were already opening for elvis the car moved very slowly i kept hesitating to take a picture before i realized what was happening he came to a complete stop right along side of me .i took a good long look held my breath i snaped a picture as elvis roared up the driveway .i was stunned as i watched the tail lights reach the house . i turned and llet out ascream as if i had been shot i had to be walked across the highway and as i aproached my mother i kept yelling i got it ! i got it ! i studied ekvis as he rode up because i wanted to make sure that he looked as well as i wanted hin to be. he was so beautiful happy and wonderful looking and i will never forget that moment for as long as i live . i recieved my picture back in the mail the first week in september and i couldint believe my eyes.. there sitting next to elvis was in the front seat was ginger and lisa i didint even realize they were there because my eyes were trained on elvis and only elvis my photo had come out perfect....and story continues later:king::clap::notworthy

Tony Trout

11-02-2007, 07:48 AM

I'm assuming this is the photo being discussed (courtesy of the gallery here); is this the photo your friend took epmoodyblue?

If that is the pic, then I do remember seeing this picture although I don't remember the date it's supposedly taken....

ruggishboo

11-02-2007, 09:03 AM

The pic was found in the candids section on here, but it said August 10th, so I don't know if this is the right one or not...I have seen a few others where he is in the backseat with Ginger and Lisa with different clothes on, maybe that is from the 12th, just not sure.

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 09:39 AM

so we continue .. my picture arrived back in the mail the first week in september and i couldint believe my eyes.. there sitting next to elvis was in the front seat was ginger and lisa i didint even realize they were there because my eyes were trained on elvis and only elvis my photo had come out perfect....but now it was too late .elvis had died just afew days after we returned home.. and now he would never see the beautiful moment i captured on film.of his daughter and girlfriend in the car.i had planned to send a copy of the pics to elvis..after the shock wore off..i realized that god must have been right beside me that night and that his plans had already been made to take elvis in just 4 short days ..giving me the last chance to to see elvis alive i cant help but wonder from time to time why i was one of the last to take apicture of elvis alive its hard for me to express my feelings whenever i look at my pictures. i didint go back to memphis to view elvis body .because i wanted to remember elvis as most of us do.. and as i saw him that night of aug 12 .. happy waiving to his fans and smiling that beautiful smile ....by shanty parrish of medway ohio...and thats the story behind that pic..all true dont ask questions ifs or buts ..it all happened acept it....well bye bye(y):king::notworthy

presley31

11-02-2007, 09:42 AM

thanks for sharing your story, but where is this pic you talking about??

Lonniebealestreet

11-02-2007, 10:03 AM

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 10:51 AM

epmoodyblue,

With all due respect, you surely must recognize that when we tell people a story that is this intriguing and that many people would be skeptical of (because of the rarity of such an event and not the person sharing the story) that we are going to be asked questions. Telling people not to ask is an unreasonable request.

Please explain as your story is unclear to me. It sounded at first like you were referring to the second pic that was posted here, though you didn't comment on it after it was presented, but then you describe a scenario of pajamas on the porch. And it is not strictly that I am skeptical but that I am simply having trouble figuring out what you are relating to us...Is the story you are telling in the words of your friend or are you speaking in the first person throughout?

At one point you said "no explanations from me about the story or pic are needed" and yet you keep giving your "believers" new little tidbits. Do you have the photo and can you share it or will we just keep getting this story in installments?the pic im talking about has been posted in this topic by other people..story i wrote is exact words shanty wrote in her article..what more cani tell you..what else can i say? i bought that pic from her i have her old house adress that i used to order the pic but that was 29 years ago she posted it in her add in the elvis magazine in fall of 78..im pretty sure by now she has moved *lol*...who knows..
..thats what she wrote in her article .seeing elvis on the pourch lookin good etc .so i gues we will have to take her word for it..after all she took the pic on aug 12 th ..:king:(y):notworthy in the for sale section of the elvis magazine it simply read..for sale beautiful color candid of elvis lisa marie and ginger taken by me in memphis on august 12 77 4 days before his deathavailable in following various sizes up to 8 x10 $5.75

Tony Trout

11-02-2007, 10:58 AM

But...which picture is it exactly?

Diane

11-02-2007, 11:01 AM

I myself am thoroughly confused as to which picture your friend took and the date???? Elvis sitting on the front porch reading the newspaper in 1977 does not sound right to me....sorry.

Diane

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 11:20 AM

I myself am thoroughly confused as to which picture your friend took and the date???? Elvis sitting on the front porch reading the newspaper in 1977 does not sound right to me....sorry.

Dianenothing to be sorry about thats shanty's story i worte it as she wrote it 29 years ago..sorry u or others dont believe her true story..well we will leave it at that i just know i bought the pic from her 29 years ago her article apeared in an elvis fan magainze.. just postin what i know bye bye:king: pic is similar to the ones posted here of elvis in black outfit hand up waiving to fans with glasses on with lisa and ginger in car..i dont have a scanner or i would have posted it..but its exact outfit just more of aside view of elvis not frontal view and why not dont come and tell me elvis never showed up on his own front pourch .elvis did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to it was his house..how many people would believe elvis was below the stairways in graceland on the floor.on top of gingers sister playin around right in front of ginger in 77 few would but it happened.. there are pics of that event so accept the story simple as that

elvis himselvis

11-02-2007, 12:21 PM

I find it a very interesting story...don't know what to believe

Getlo

11-02-2007, 05:34 PM

and thats the story behind that pic..all true dont ask questions ifs or buts ..it all happened acept it....well bye bye(y):king::notworthy

Well, I'm most definitely convinced ...

... that the porch story is crap.

"It all happened. Accept it." Whew! Where is this woman now, epmoodyblue, do you know at all?

The story about getting the photo is probably true. But the rest? Tell her to call Wanda June Hill.

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 07:17 PM

Well, I'm most definitely convinced ...

... that the porch story is crap.

"It all happened. Accept it." Whew! Where is this woman now, epmoodyblue, do you know at all?

The story about getting the photo is probably true. But the rest? Tell her to call Wanda June Hill. i just bought the picture from her 29 years ago thats a fact i wrote to her in 78 and ordered the pic..i dont know the lady i have no idea where she is now she was 16 in -1977- i trust her article and pic and believe she did snap those pics --the segment about elvis and ginger on the porch it might have well happened .who knows one day we may get surprised and shanty parrish will enter this forum and explain everything...bye bye

Diane

11-02-2007, 07:52 PM

Well, that sure leaves us all up the air doesn't it?:P

Diane

epmoodyblue

11-02-2007, 07:56 PM

Well, that sure leaves us all up the air doesn't it?:P

Diane guess it does:lmfao::king::lol: shanty wherever you are post up !

nolvis

11-03-2007, 12:31 AM

Can someone please post the Aug.12 pic from the Walk a Mile cd booklet!? I know that was asked on the Indy thread but...:D(y):king:(y)

presley31

11-03-2007, 07:30 AM

guess it does:lmfao::king::lol: shanty wherever you are post up !

we are enjoying what your saying but we don't believe everything we see without the proof. So far you have talked about this story but you haven't posted no article or nothing. If you post that stuff then we can take you more serious than we are now.

epmoodyblue

11-03-2007, 08:15 AM

we are enjoying what your saying but we don't believe everything we see without the proof. So far you have talked about this story but you haven't posted no article or nothing. If you post that stuff then we can take you more serious than we are now.thats okay.. but like i said before i have no scanner or i would have posted the pic a long time ago. i would of also scanned the article from the magazine also.hmm..mabye not because the mag is 30 years old might be worth some bucks today *lol* kidding aside i would of scanned the article for you all-but i think even if i had posted the pic some of you still wouldint believe the story..well thats just the way things are these days many elvis fans believe some things larry geller or other stooges that have written about elvis .many false things..but you all cant believe a simple true story from a simple elvis fan who 30 years ago visited memphis on aug 12 -77 simply snaped a pic of elvis and then wrote about it in an elvis magazine .no big deal at all ..she was just one of those lucky ones who got to see elvis for the last time...its probably the porch thingy that ticks you all off not to believe the story i dunno about that i just posted the story as it was posted in the magazine .. she was 16 years old at the time i hope shanty is still around and can one day clear things up for you all by posting --but i believe her ..i was just one of those who bought the pic from her thats all (y)

Gary1

11-03-2007, 07:59 PM

but i think even if i had posted the pic some of you still wouldint believe the story..well thats just the way things are these days many elvis fans believe some things larry geller or other stooges that have written about elvis .many false things..but you all cant believe a simple true story from a simple elvis fan who 30 years ago visited memphis on aug 12 -77 simply snaped a pic of elvis and then wrote about it in an elvis magazine .no big deal at all ..she was just one of those lucky ones who got to see elvis for the last time...its probably the porch thingy that ticks you all off not to believe the story i dunno about that i just posted the story as it was posted in the magazine .. she was 16 years old at the time i hope shanty is still around and can one day clear things up for you all by posting --but i believe her ..i was just one of those who bought the pic from her thats all (y) If the the story was printed in a Magazine well then it must be be true.I read a magazine that said a statue of Elvis was found on the moon and there's even photos of that so that must be true a well.:lol:

cameron

11-03-2007, 08:18 PM

thats okay.. but like i said before i have no scanner or i would have posted the pic a long time ago. i would of also scanned the article from the magazine also.hmm..mabye not because the mag is 30 years old might be worth some bucks today *lol* kidding aside i would of scanned the article for you all-but i think even if i had posted the pic some of you still wouldint believe the story..well thats just the way things are these days many elvis fans believe some things larry geller or other stooges that have written about elvis .many false things..but you all cant believe a simple true story from a simple elvis fan who 30 years ago visited memphis on aug 12 -77 simply snaped a pic of elvis and then wrote about it in an elvis magazine .no big deal at all ..she was just one of those lucky ones who got to see elvis for the last time...its probably the porch thingy that ticks you all off not to believe the story i dunno about that i just posted the story as it was posted in the magazine .. she was 16 years old at the time i hope shanty is still around and can one day clear things up for you all by posting --but i believe her ..i was just one of those who bought the pic from her thats all (y)

Unfortunately, that's the way our world is today. We stopped trusting .
With good reason I might add. Hope no one makes a big arguement about your story . IMO, one can believe it or not. Their choice.
Thanks for the story .:)

Unchained Melody

11-03-2007, 08:52 PM

Tiger Man

11-03-2007, 09:01 PM

Various members of Elvis' entourage have told stories of him sitting on the front porch in his last years. It has always sounded odd to me because it would have made more sense for him to sit where the fans couldn't see him, by Meditation Garden for instance. One story has Elvis on the front steps, high out of his mind shooting at a tree snake. The recoil of the weapon knocked him to the ground because he was so unsteady. I think this was in the book "Memphis Mafia." Supposedly, somebody lead E back into the house as fans looked on. Another story has Elvis sitting on the front porch in his PJ's and some kids at the gate were calling him fat, which hurt his feelings. Again, this seems odd to me, but there are several of these stories, so perhaps he really did do this. After all, when you're as loaded as Elvis was, well, anything is possible.

Unchained Melody

11-03-2007, 09:05 PM

Don't know how true those stories are tigerman...me, I don't believe that..

epmoodyblue

11-03-2007, 10:58 PM

Very interesting story..not necessarily believable, but interesting for sure. Really wish you could supply us with the photo though. May help us out;). But I'm still having a hard time picturing Elvis sitting on the front porch reading a newspaper..especially not in 1977..:blink:WHY NOT LIKE ELVIS NEVER READ A newspaper in his life? pic is very similar to the one already posted here as many fans were at gates on aug 12--so most of the pics look similar some snaped from the front or side of car..shanty snaped the pic from the side -a side wiew of elvis sitting in the stutz hand up waiving with glasses on so imagine the pics already posted in this topic of elvis look at them now just imagine aside view where elvis was sitting thats what the pic looks like. glad you all like shantys true story no more comments on this story are necessary:king::cold: you either believe it or you dont

Getlo

11-04-2007, 04:55 AM

Look at the footage of him stepping off the plane before his last show. He looked great.

"Great"?

Hardly. And he was wearing a loose tracksuit in this footage.

Elvis' appearance had little, if anything, to do with the jumpsuit!

Getlo

11-04-2007, 05:03 AM

Again, I ask in which "respectable" magazine did this story end up being published?

I have read and re-read this woman's story four times.

Who allowed her up the driveway? Why was she allowed up the driveway if Elvis was going to come out and sit on the porch? If she couldn't believe it was him right there, why didn't she take any pictures?

No, this doesn't add up at all, and is obviously the production of an overactive imagination of a besotted 16-yeard-old girl.

I'm curious, epmoodyblue, why you would believe such a tale without any proof. Just because this girl said it doesn't make it true.

And how much did you pay for the August 12 photo? Five bucks was it?

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 07:02 AM

Again, I ask in which "respectable" magazine did this story end up being published?

I have read and re-read this woman's stiory four times.

Who allowed her up the driveway? Why was she allowed up the driveway if Elvis was going to come out and sit on the porch? If she couldn't believe it was him right there, why didn't she take any pictures?

No, this doesn't add up at all, and is obviously the production of an overactive imagination of a besotted 16-yeard-old girl.

I'm curious, epmoodyblue, why you would believe such a tale without any proof. Just because this girl said it doesn't make it true.

And how much did you pay for the August 12 photo? Five bucks was it?well your entitled to your opinion..believe whatever you wish to believe its a true story from a great fan elvis magazine that existed in 78 the name of the magazine which is quite a collectors item these days im sure..and few people today have it as only 8 issues 8x10 in size were published. so its a rare item.name of mag was called ELVIS WORLD MAGAZINE if you have it go to page 17 the fall issue of 1978 then read the story for yourself ..she never said she walked up the driveway..anyways i payed $5.75 in 1978 for the pic and on that page her name and full adress was also listed to order the pic
and thats it bye bye :king::cold:(y) i trust shanty that pic of elvis you all see waiving with lisa and ginger in front seat belongs to her remember there are many versions of that pic as many fans were massed at the gates when elvis showed up so you may see similar pics of it front view side view ..etc. so she wasint the only one who snaped apic of elvis on that occasion on aug 12..simple as that :king:

Getlo

11-04-2007, 07:46 AM

..she never said she walked up the driveway..

And yet ...

i kept telling myself it couldint be. but the closer i inched up the driveway the more i realised it was elvis in the flesh..

The story is bogus.

Unchained Melody

11-04-2007, 08:04 AM

I'm sorry but I have to agree, it just doesn't make any sense. You say one thing then something totally the opposite the next.:blink:

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 08:25 AM

yeah well whatever .seems we all got opinions we will leave it at that ..so i wont bother to comment anymore on this topic as some here have hard heads and wont believe no matter what we post -i never changed the story-the story isint mines i posted the story as it was written word for word in the magazine.- this forum is famous for turning simple posts into huge arguements but i wong fall for it.. bye bye :cold:

Getlo

11-04-2007, 08:38 AM

-i never changed the story-the story isint mines:

I never suggested that you changed it, nor did I suggest it was your story.

A 16-year-old girl supposedly wrote it. What I suggested is that it is completely untrue.

She may very well have taken that pic; I can't see any reason to doubt that.

But it's obvious that the rest about the porch and driveway is just fan rubbish, a lot of which came out in the aftermath of Elvis' demise.

Including the true story ... of Elvis' sister!

And as for this Elvis World magazine being "respected" ... I assume this is different to Bill Burk's magazine of the same name? If it is, and with just eight issues to its credit, then "respected" is obviously a relative term.

Unchained Melody

11-04-2007, 08:40 AM

I don't mean any disrespect at all epmoodyblue. I appreciate you telling us this story..I just am not sure of how true it is.

TCB Brad!

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 09:07 AM

I never suggested that you changed it, nor did I suggest it was your story.

A 16-year-old girl supposedly wrote it. What I suggested is that it is completely untrue.

She may very well have taken that pic; I can't see any reason to doubt that.

But it's obvious that the rest about the porch and driveway is just fan rubbish, a lot of which came out in the aftermath of Elvis' demise.

Including the true story ... of Elvis' sister!

And as for this Elvis World magazine being "respected" ... I assume this is different to Bill Burk's magazine of the same name? If it is, and with just eight issues to its credit, then "respected" is obviously a relative term.no the elvis world magazine was published by phil gelormine in the usa ,,it was in 8x10 format that came out every 2 months..really great mag with lots of wonderful articles and nice pics in it..at the time in 78 when it came out it was only $5 dollars per issue .it began in 78 and lasted until 1981.but every issue was great each issie was about 55 to 60 pages-phil gelormine founder of the magazine has seen elvis in concert many times from 71 to 77-bye bye :cold:im sure any fan would love to have one of these mags in there collection very rare

jak

11-04-2007, 10:20 AM

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 10:31 AM

People have away of adding to a story over the years.It can be an honest mistake also with no devious intent.It's just hard to believe that fans were allowed to go partly up the driveway with Elvis just hanging on the front porch.That just wouldnt be allowd to happen.That much I do know.
Jaki cant speak for shanty..i know what you mean but you know mabye she meant from the gates who knows..in the article it never says she walked right up to the pourch..i dunno when your 16 and see elvis for the first time some things can be exagerated mabye im just guessing or mabye she had binoculars ..but she did take a picture of elvis in 77-just bought acopy in 78 from her thats all i dont have the answers .if shanty shows up and posts then things will bet cleared up.. only she can answer all your doubts about the story -i cant do it bye bye :cold::king:(y)

utmom2008

11-04-2007, 11:09 AM

i cant speak for shanty..i know what you mean but you know mabye she meant from the gates who knows..in the article it never says she walked right up to the pourch..i dunno when your 16 and see elvis for the first time some things can be exagerated mabye im just guessing or mabye she had binoculars ..but she did take a picture of elvis in 77-just bought acopy in 78 from her thats all i dont have the answers .if shanty shows up and posts then things will bet cleared up.. only she can answer all your doubts about the story -i cant do it bye bye :cold::king:(y)
epmoodyblue??? This is off topic, but why are you "cold" in every post??:D

utmom2008

11-04-2007, 11:17 AM

yes her story about the pic and date is 100% true the story...august 12 77 we stopped off at graceland around 7 pmi had gone up the driveway a little to get a clear view of the house and nothing seemed to be happening...all of the sudden all of the sudden the front door of the mansion and there was ginger alden.i noticed aman behind her who was wearing a satin pajama and ablue crushed velvet robe they both sat down on the porch and started reading a newspaper.i kept telling myself it couldint be.but the closer i inched up the driveway the more i realised it was elvis in the flesh.. he acted so normal and natural he looked so beautiful just sitting there i was stunned and couldint move..they stayed there on the pourch for about 15 minutes..and then they went back inside graceland...okay i will continue this true story about the pic later tommorow as im tired and i cant type too fast*lol* but its a true story about how shanty was one of the last lucky fans to see elvis alive shortly before his death:'( part 2 tomorrow (y)
Does anyone else bust out laughing at the visual in your head of Elvis and Ginger sitting on the front porch reading a newspaper, while fans were inching their way up the driveway??:lol: :lol: I wonder if Elvis was like most other men and was reading the sports page first?? :lol:

jak

11-04-2007, 11:56 AM

presley31

11-04-2007, 01:06 PM

Thanks for sharing that story with us, but it still doesn't sound like a true story.

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 01:49 PM

epmoodyblue??? This is off topic, but why are you "cold" in every post??:D
because i live in canada thats why im always:cold: bye bye

Diane

11-04-2007, 02:45 PM

utmom2008

11-04-2007, 03:07 PM

Maybe he was clipping coupons?
:lol: :lol: Maybe he was...since his finances were in a shambles along at the last :lol:

Jumpsuit Junkie

11-04-2007, 04:11 PM

To bring this thread back to topic ;) Elvis didn't have to lose weight! He didn't die he was air lifted out of Graceland by helicopter on Aug 16th :hmm:

BrianK

11-04-2007, 04:25 PM

If a man can't sit on his front porch in his PJs and shoot at a tree snake, what is this world coming to?(n)

Diane

11-04-2007, 05:38 PM

He was shooting them from the helicopter, didn't everyone know that? :lol:

Diane

Jumpsuit Junkie

11-04-2007, 06:27 PM

He was shooting them from the helicopter, didn't everyone know that? :lol:

Diane

Diane, your naughty :lol:

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 07:12 PM

Oh now I'm shamed! :'( I was born and grew up in Canada and I know a few friends here on this site that are still living in Canada and they are not COLD. You've sure lost any credibility with me you might have had.

Sure I'll go along with the photo being taken but the rest of the story...................................

Diane..what credibility are you talking about? why you calling me a liar the story is not mines read my posts carefully i repeat the story is not mines if you had elvis world magazine fall 1978 issue page 17 then you would know what i posted at least the story was printed in the magazine . weather you believe it or not is not my problem . i mean its the weather is a little cold here right now thats all im proud to be canadian- you would be better of to laugh to one of marty lackers stories about elvis- :king::cold:

epmoodyblue

11-04-2007, 07:16 PM

Diane, your naughty :lol:no shes not being naughty she cant read my posts properly she thinks the story is mines :king:

BrianK

11-04-2007, 08:47 PM

If anyone has what they think is the last picture taken of Elvis alive, please post it here. Then we can try to answer the question posed in this thresd.

Getlo

11-05-2007, 04:36 AM

If anyone has what they think is the last picture taken of Elvis alive, please post it here. Then we can try to answer the question posed in this thresd.

I already posted it ... see comment #13

Diane

11-05-2007, 07:29 AM

I'll bet there are plenty of so-called last photos of Elvis that haven't surfaced yet.....

Matt as to your comment, yes I was, it saves my sanity at times.:lol:

Diane

Getlo

11-05-2007, 07:35 AM

I'll bet there are plenty of so-called last photos of Elvis that haven't surfaced yet.....

No.

There's only one, taken just as Elvis entered Graceland in the early hours of August 16th. As I said, there's one other taken a couple of seconds later, but it's obscured and you can't see his face.

Although, technically speaking, the last-ever photo would be the one taken of him in his coffin.

Diane

11-05-2007, 07:42 AM

Wow that's straight to the gut Getlo, but I can't argue with you. :blink:

Diane

presley31

11-05-2007, 07:42 AM

I read these are the last pics

Getlo

11-05-2007, 07:52 AM

I read these are the last pics

There can only be one last picture.

The one on the left is indeed the last picture; the one on the right was taken earlier in the evening (probably on the 15th) as he left Graceland.

Although, he's in two different-coloured cars here ...

Diane

11-05-2007, 07:59 AM

I also was under the impression that the photo on the left was the last pictre...thanks for confirming Getlo.

Diane

presley31

11-05-2007, 07:59 AM

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r264/Backstrom2003/drivelisa74770b96qx3.jpg

when was this taken??

Getlo

11-05-2007, 08:31 AM

when was this taken??

Well, it's certainly not from the last evening, that's for sure.

I'd suggest it's from 1974 or 1975, as Elvis stopped smoking cigars in '75.

ruggishboo

11-05-2007, 08:33 AM

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r264/Backstrom2003/drivelisa74770b96qx3.jpg

when was this taken??

This is from a few years earlier, I'm sure someone on here knows the correct date...1974 or 75 possibly?

ruggishboo

11-05-2007, 08:35 AM

Sorry Getlo, you posted right before I did, didn't see your reply..

epmoodyblue

11-05-2007, 09:14 AM

Yes, that pic looks similar to the ones from August 16th.

But Elvis' jacket is different, so maybe it was taken on the 12th if that woman's story if true and the photos are the same ...
no the storu i posted shantys pic almost i dentical to this one.http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19680&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1193965433 same side view only difference is we see lisa and ginger in the pic also.:king:

Getlo

11-05-2007, 09:18 AM

no the storu i posted shantys pic almost i dentical to this one. same side view only difference is we see lisa and ginger in the pic also.:king:

No, epmoodyblue, I was not referring to the pic you posted earlier.

I was referring to this one, posted by ruggishboo.

It was obviously taken on another night than the 15th/16th as Elvis' jacket is different.

epmoodyblue

11-05-2007, 09:22 AM

No, epmoodyblue, I was not referring to the pic you posted earlier.

I was referring to this one, posted by ruggishboo.

It was obviously taken on another night than the 15th/16th as Elvis' jacket is different.yeah this is the pic- http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19743&stc=1&d=1194279530.on aug 12 th (y)

ms_epblvd

11-05-2007, 12:03 PM

I dont think Elvis looked any better. The man died remember, how good could he have looked. I suppose he could look slimmer in a dark jogging suit verse a white jumpsuit. Anyone would.

epmoodyblue

11-05-2007, 01:12 PM

I dont think Elvis looked any better. The man died remember, how good could he have looked. I suppose he could look slimmer in a dark jogging suit verse a white jumpsuit. Anyone would.hey wait a minute bud-your an imposter im moody blue:lmfao:kidding of course..but i would agree with you elvis may have lost a couple of pounds in july-aug 77 but not much:king:

elvis himselvis

11-06-2007, 08:25 AM

Well, it's certainly not from the last evening, that's for sure.

I'd suggest it's from 1974 or 1975, as Elvis stopped smoking cigars in '75.

Are you sure???
I thought he smoked them in '76 an '77 too....

Getlo

11-06-2007, 08:30 AM

Are you sure???
I thought he smoked them in '76 an '77 too....

No, he stopped some time in '75. Although he may have continued into very early '76. He realised he was getting older and couldn't do that to himself anymore. Kind of sad, when you consider what other crap he was consuming.

I don't recall seeing a cigar photo after '75.

Getlo

11-06-2007, 09:19 AM

Nope, still smoked them occasionally.

No doubt your post will disappear as have all your others, but ...

Elvis did stop smoking cigars by early '76 at the latest. From then on, he never smoked them again.

Getlo

11-06-2007, 09:33 AM

Ok, if that's what you want to think.

That's what I know.

If you can find a pic of Elvis smoking a cigar after 1975 or very early '76, then please feel free to post it here so we can all enjoy it.

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 10:25 AM

Does anyone else bust out laughing at the visual in your head of Elvis and Ginger sitting on the front porch reading a newspaper, while fans were inching their way up the driveway??:lol: :lol: I wonder if Elvis was like most other men and was reading the sports page first?? :lol:

I've only gotten 1/2 way through these posts - but how many have actually been to Graceland? Do you know how far it is from the opening of the driveway up to the house? My guess is she was looking through binoculars or something.....and Elvis and Ginger would not have been able to see from the porch all the way down to the opening of the gates/driveway......that would be my guess......:blink:

Getlo

11-06-2007, 10:40 AM

Can't tell you why, but I know that's not true. Oh darn, I need a pic because without one that makes it false.

If you can't tell me why, then you have no basis for argument. And yes, without a pic, your claim is false.

So, as I said, if you can find pictorial evidence of Elvis enjoying a stogie post 1975, please share it with the rest of us.

I might politely suggest you do a lot more reading about Elvis before launching loosely-disguised attacks on me ... again.

I presume you know nothing of the letter he wrote a couple of years before he died, pledging to get himself clean and to stop smoking cigars?

Getlo

11-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Attacks? You made a claim that you have no way of backing up. You said it, but YOU have no proof. You prove it big boy, bet you can't.

It doesn't work like that. For the following two reasons:

1 . It is relatively common knowledge in the Elvis world that he gave up cigars about two years before he died, after spending the last year smoking them with a plastic holder. The knowledgable fans on here should attest to that. Your assertion that he kept smoking them until the end goes against that common knowledge, therefore the onus is on you to prove he didn't ... should you wish to keep this debate going.

2. You were the one who made the first challenge against my assertion about this subject:

Nope, he still smoked them occasionally.

Therefore, again, the onus is on you to prove your case first.

Finally, if someone had first said that Elvis smoked cigars until the end, then it would be on me to prove that he didn't, in the second instance.

How long have you been a fan? Just curious.

cameron

11-06-2007, 11:39 AM

"Did Elvis lost weight after his final concert in Indianapolis? "

I for one could care less whether he smoked or not.
That's just too obsessive for me. Who the heck cares ?
{Bad enough some crawl into his bedroom.....}

Did Elvis lose weight or didn't he ?

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 11:52 AM

19765

19766

Here are couple of photo's - one it says from 1976 with a cigar (Getlo you out there?) The other is from 1977 last days....

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 11:53 AM

okay, the last days one didn't print out because it says I used it on another thread - which is crazy to not let it post more than once.....but the one with him and Ginger is from one of his last concerts in 77.

presley31

11-06-2007, 11:55 AM

So elvis was smoking still in 77 , thanks kelly for clearing that up.

cameron

11-06-2007, 11:58 AM

Aw, kelly . TYVM !!
I guess you know what list you're on with Getlo, huh?;)

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 12:02 PM

cameron

11-06-2007, 12:10 PM

well to clarify, the bottom photo says 1976/cigar - not 1977. And Getlo won't be angry if I've found a photo like that...I can't even remember where I got it from to be honest - may have been here.....but Getlo likes proof....so.....here ya go I guess.

So do I ,really. I'm glad to learn.
Some just don't like to be proved wrong.

I have much to learn about EP trivia . So, I don't get mad.
I just laugh .:lol:(y)

elvis himselvis

11-06-2007, 03:11 PM

19765

19766

Here are couple of photo's - one it says from 1976 with a cigar (Getlo you out there?) The other is from 1977 last days....

So there's the proof he smoked them in the late 1976...don't know if he smoked them in 1977,but wasn't there that pic of Johnny O'harra lying on ELvis bed with cigars next to him???I know it's a movie,but maybe it was as he left his room behind...somebody more information?

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 03:25 PM

So there's the proof he smoked them in the late 1976...don't know if he smoked them in 1977,but wasn't there that pic of Johnny O'harra lying on ELvis bed with cigars next to him???I know it's a movie,but maybe it was as he left his room behind...somebody more information?

I'm not sure and I didn't post the pic because of it - my original intention was to show the last photo's of him in 1977, but it wouldn't let me because I had posted it in another thread, and someone already posted the one with him, Ginger and Lisa in the car. I ran across the cigar photo while looking for the others and the title was "1976cigar" so knowing of the discussion with you and Getlo (or someone and Getlo) decided to post it......

elvis himselvis

11-06-2007, 03:34 PM

hahaha okeej:P
thanks anyway for helping me:P just kidding
Now we have to wait for GetLo to show up...:king:

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 03:39 PM

I'm hearing Clint Eastwood music playing.....waiting for Getlo to show up for the show down......you are guys are too darn funny!

cameron

11-06-2007, 03:40 PM

OFF TOPIC ....

That Knoxelvis was on here too. I'm just flabbergasted !!
The "disappearing Elvis fan." :supriced::blink:

ksimms2

11-06-2007, 03:41 PM

OFF TOPIC ....

That Knoxelvis was on here too. I'm just flabbergasted !!
The "disappearing Elvis fan." :supriced::blink:

maybe they were banned? not sure - that is weird.

cameron

11-06-2007, 03:44 PM

Nope ! Read Getlo #105 on this thread . He noticed too.

presley31

11-06-2007, 04:00 PM

Nope ! Read Getlo #105 on this thread . He noticed too.

Don't think he deleted his own posts, but he seems to be gone

epmoodyblue

11-06-2007, 04:04 PM

thats right tottaly off topic when elvis quit smoking cigars ?who cares get back to the topic

utmom2008

11-06-2007, 04:11 PM

thats right tottaly off topic when elvis quit smoking cigars ?who cares get back to the topic
:lol: It's not really that far off the topic....everyone that smokes will tell you that if they quit they will gain weight, so it does kind of tie in together! :D :lol: :lol:

epmoodyblue

11-06-2007, 06:33 PM

:lol: It's not really that far off the topic....everyone that smokes will tell you that if they quit they will gain weight, so it does kind of tie in together! :D :lol: :lol::lmfao:yeah well im pretty sure elvis didint gain weight because of too much smoking ..well heck yeah anything goes in topics i dont think elvis smoked too much:king::lol:

Getlo

11-06-2007, 07:29 PM

well to clarify, the bottom photo says 1976/cigar - not 1977. And Getlo won't be angry if I've found a photo like that...I can't even remember where I got it from to be honest - may have been here.....but Getlo likes proof....so.....here ya go I guess.

No, not angry at all. It all depends on the attitude in which proof is delivered, and ksimms2 is always very pleasant.

The '76 shot is early '76; but there's no cigar in the '77 pic.

Dare I say, close but no cigar?

Getlo

11-06-2007, 07:34 PM

Don't think he deleted his own posts, but he seems to be gone

He must be deleting his own posts, nobody else can; unless he's having system problems or the mods are doing something.

Either way, it's annoying as I can't find what he previously said.

Getlo

11-06-2007, 07:44 PM

Getlo

11-06-2007, 07:48 PM

okay, the last days one didn't print out because it says I used it on another thread - which is crazy to not let it post more than once.

Kelly,

You can't just save pics from there on the gallery and repost them.

What you need to do is change the size of the pic slightly, rename it, then post it as another jpeg file (or whatever it was originally).

Cheers.

BrianK

11-06-2007, 09:01 PM

What's all this talk about cigars? We're talking about Elvis, not Bill Clinton. So far none of the 77 pictures shown from July or August shows anything about Elvis weight. Maybe there is evidence written in one of the books concernin Elvis' weight. A head shot through the limo window may be the last pic, but it doesn't show anything about weight.

utmom2008

11-06-2007, 10:01 PM

Kelly,

Is this first shot the one you're talking about? I have enlarged it. To my eyes at least, this doesn't look like a cigar. It seems to be just a glass of water, or just his hand there with nothing.

The black and white shot I just found is, I believe, from 1975 (check his glasses; he only wore that type in '75 as far as I know).

Unfortunately, most of my reference books are at my dad's place. I know I've read several references to him "giving up his little cigars" ... and that letter he wrote, promising to stop ... and talking about the eightfold path or something. Wish I could find it. Anyone know the letter I'm talking about?
Getlo.....can you tell us more about the letter? All I've ever heard are vague references to it...

Getlo

11-06-2007, 10:50 PM

Getlo.....can you tell us more about the letter? All I've ever heard are vague references to it...

Yeah, it's driving me nuts because I can't remember where I have it.

He wrote it around '75, and it was basically a list of everything he wanted to do, eg get healthier, be nicer to people, then it rabbitted on about something to do with martial arts. Or maybe I'm confusing it with his TCB Creed, where he signed off with "all techniques rolled into one" or some such guff.

But on the one I'm thinking of, he clearly states that he will stop smoking cigars.

rickb

11-07-2007, 12:08 AM

my understanding is that the daytime photo with cigar was Vegas, December 76

elvis himselvis

11-07-2007, 02:26 AM

my understanding is that the daytime photo with cigar was Vegas, December 76

me too rick;)

elvis himselvis

11-07-2007, 02:28 AM

Yeah, it's driving me nuts because I can't remember where I have it.

He wrote it around '75, and it was basically a list of everything he wanted to do, eg get healthier, be nicer to people, then it rabbitted on about something to do with martial arts. Or maybe I'm confusing it with his TCB Creed, where he signed off with "all techniques rolled into one" or some such guff.

But on the one I'm thinking of, he clearly states that he will stop smoking cigars.

Keep searching(y)
Would be interesting to read the letter(y)
:king:

ksimms2

11-07-2007, 03:55 AM

Kelly,

Is this first shot the one you're talking about? I have enlarged it. To my eyes at least, this doesn't look like a cigar. It seems to be just a glass of water, or just his hand there with nothing.

The black and white shot I just found is, I believe, from 1975 (check his glasses; he only wore that type in '75 as far as I know).

Unfortunately, most of my reference books are at my dad's place. I know I've read several references to him "giving up his little cigars" ... and that letter he wrote, promising to stop ... and talking about the eightfold path or something. Wish I could find it. Anyone know the letter I'm talking about?

Getlo, not the same picture at all - go back to my bottom picture and click on it, it will make it larger and he does have a cigar in his mouth. But like I said, I probably got the photo from here and the name of the photo was 1976cigar so I can only go by that.....the other photo is from one of his last concerts in 1977 w/Ginger....only reason I posted that one....

ksimms2

11-07-2007, 03:57 AM

Kelly,

You can't just save pics from there on the gallery and repost them.

What you need to do is change the size of the pic slightly, rename it, then post it as another jpeg file (or whatever it was originally).

Cheers.

thanks..:blush:

Getlo

11-07-2007, 05:30 AM

my understanding is that the daytime photo with cigar was Vegas, December 76

I don't think so.

Look way in the background. It clearly says INTERNATIONAL HOTEL on top of the building. So the pic has to be 1971 or earlier.

Besides, his face is way too thin for '76 in that photo (just to bring the topic back to where it started - Elvis' weight!)

Getlo

11-07-2007, 05:33 AM

Getlo, not the same picture at all - go back to my bottom picture and click on it, it will make it larger and he does have a cigar in his mouth.

Not sure what pic you mean; can you enlarge the face and put it on here?

Cheers.

ksimms2

11-07-2007, 06:34 AM

Not sure what pic you mean; can you enlarge the face and put it on here?

Cheers.

Am at work, can't right now, but go back a couple of pages to the photo's that I posted - the bottom photo - click on it - it enlarges and shows you he has a cigar in his mouth - the photo you posted saying it was "same" photo but he has a glass of water in his hand - not the same photo at all......

Getlo

11-07-2007, 06:42 AM

- it enlarges and shows you he has a cigar in his mouth - the photo you posted saying it was "same" photo but he has a glass of water in his hand - not the same photo at all......

Oh, that one.

As discussed elsewhere, this picture could not be from 1976.

It's the INTERNATIONAL HOTEL in the background and the Hilton became the International in 1971.

And he looks way too thin for '76 in that shot.

ksimms2

11-07-2007, 07:11 AM

Oh, that one.

As discussed elsewhere, this picture could not be from 1976.

It's the INTERNATIONAL HOTEL in the background and the Hilton became the International in 1971.

And he looks way too thin for '76 in that shot.

okay, whoever posted it mislabeled it then.....no skin off my teeth either way...don't care when he smoked or not smoked, etc. Sorry for the confusion. :blink:

elvis himselvis

11-07-2007, 07:14 AM

Getlo

11-07-2007, 07:15 AM

okay, whoever posted it mislabeled it then....

Well, it's just my opinion, but I believe I'm right about that photo. I've seen it labelled elsewhere as Vegas '76, but it can't be.

Besides, Elvis spent his entire time in Vegas up in his suite by 1976, by all accounts. I can't see him venturing out in the day by that stage.

utmom2008

11-07-2007, 08:32 AM

Oh, that one.

As discussed elsewhere, this picture could not be from 1976.

It's the INTERNATIONAL HOTEL in the background and the Hilton became the International in 1971.

And he looks way too thin for '76 in that shot.
I was in Vegas in August of 1971 and it was the International..by the time August of 72 rolled around everything said Las Vegas Hilton. If the background reads "International" then it is at the latest August of 71.. And..Getlo is right, his face his waaay too thin for 76

Dudcowboy_1

11-07-2007, 09:53 AM

well believe it or not Elvis smoked up til day he died Cigars that is. I've done many shows with his family and friends. That one photo is from 1976 December to be exact notice the winter jacket? LOL

Smoking a cigar showed a sign of power back in 50s, 60s, and 70s my grandmother told me. And Elvis was on TOP of the music world so...

Love to all,
Tim Dudley

Getlo

11-07-2007, 09:59 AM

That one photo is from 1976 December to be exact notice the winter jacket?

Tim, the only way the photo could be from December 1976 is if it wasn't taken in Vegas.

But it was - the International is in the background.

And because it's the International, it cannot be from '76.

And the jacket is no indication of anything. Elvis wore jackets at strange times.

Check out the pic I posted earlier of him on the bike with a cigar between his lips. Everyone else is wearing short sleeves, but he looks as if he's ready to take on a trip to the North Pole!

elvis himselvis

11-07-2007, 10:25 AM

getlo is right,it can't be 1976

Gary1

11-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Getlo

11-07-2007, 10:53 AM

I was just looking at the photo of Elvis with the International Hotel in the background.And to me it doesn't look like the International/Hilton hotel that he played in the sign looks different.I'm not saying it isn't it just doesn't look like it to me.

Perhaps you're right.

Which means then that the photo was not taken in Las Vegas at all.

Unless there was another International Hotel there? Naaah.

Which then means, it's not from December 1976.

It's one of those pics that's very hard to tell from his appearance when it was taken.