who would you like to seen run graceland

[presley31]

Who do you think would be great at running graceland( lisa not included)??

[ksimms2]

I think I'll have to say it's running just fine now.....but I don't want to see these big huge changes they are planning. I would like to see it restored to the way Elvis had it while he lived there including the barber shop area in the raquetball building, etc. I mean it looks nice the way it is now - but I would really like to have seen it back when Elvis lived in it....(even though he had horrible decorating taste...lol)

[Suzan]

What does it matter? It's Lisa's home...and the estate is what Elvis left her, the business end was formed (or re-formed) by her mother, as soley a business venture, her trust (estate) is still intact. Graceland or EPE operations is running just fine. I can't think of anyone that is still alive from Elvis' family, better equipped to run things.

[cameron]

All in all, I guess Cilla has done a good job in bringing in money to keep it going .
Lisa's really not interested, IMO anyway.

Unless one of Lisa's kids really gets into preserving it. I guess we're stuck.;)
There are several different people {financial experts} that have input as to the running of things. Guess Sillerman will keep money going to that end too. If not, he would have too much to lose. It's in his best interests to keep everyone at Graceland happy.

Without getting into that whole prior discussion ; Graceland is, of course, very seperate from EPE. It should be an easier job now. Soden is still there, I guess. Not sure of his age now. A little younger than Cilla I thought .

Who is there , if not Lisa's kids ? Ok, I'm stuck..I've no idea . :hmm:

[Suzan]

All in all, I guess Cilla has done a good job in bringing in money to keep it going .
Lisa's really not interested, IMO anyway.

Unless one of Lisa's kids really gets into preserving it. I guess we're stuck.;)
There are several different people {financial experts} that have input as to the running of things. Guess Sillerman will keep money going to that end too. If not, he would have too much to lose. It's in his best interests to keep everyone at Graceland happy.

Without getting into that whole prior discussion ; Graceland is, of course, very seperate from EPE. It should be an easier job now. Soden is still there, I guess. Not sure of his age now. A little younger than Cilla I thought .

Who is there , if not Lisa's kids ? Ok, I'm stuck..I've no idea . :hmm:


Interesting that last part, good ?....w/Riley having said that she wants to be a photographer, and Ben keeping out of the limelight (for the time being), I wonder if they are interested in the business end? Lisa, I agree, didn't seem to be, and doesn't seem to be. I wonder if she'll just leave Graceland to them and the trust but the business, if that will just be seperated from everything else?

I'm also curious to know why in Pris settlement w/Sillerman, there is a stipulation that she be involved for 6yrs.? And why she was paid, I can't remember 6-7 mil. for the name? I thought all that was Lisa's? Also interesting that Lisa said that this was on their agenda for years, well she didn't get control til only a few years ago and even then again all was left to her mom to run, so to me it says this is something Pris wanted to do for years.

[cameron]

No idea .
As I've said ..there's no family person that I know of anyway.
Maybe you do?

[Suzan]

No idea .
As I've said ..there's no family person that I know of anyway.
Maybe you do?

Maybe I do what dear? :D

Maybe your friend can give us some insight? That would be cool.:D:notworthy

[Suzan]

Nice edit.;) You find it necessary to do that all the time? :hmm:

Have a nice day dear.:D

[Rover]

I guess the best managing would be someone who cares about Elvis, his memory, and his fans...not only about the money :)
The way it is ruled now is ok with me

[Suzan]

I guess the best managing would be someone who cares about Elvis, his memory, and his fans...not only about the money :)
The way it is ruled now is ok with me

Excellent points! :D
I think it's ok how it is now.
I hope it continues that way, after the 6 yr. stipulation.

[utmom2008]

Interesting that last part, good ?....w/Riley having said that she wants to be a photographer, and Ben keeping out of the limelight (for the time being), I wonder if they are interested in the business end? Lisa, I agree, didn't seem to be, and doesn't seem to be. I wonder if she'll just leave Graceland to them and the trust but the business, if that will just be seperated from everything else?

I'm also curious to know why in Pris settlement w/Sillerman, there is a stipulation that she be involved for 6yrs.? And why she was paid, I can't remember 6-7 mil. for the name? I thought all that was Lisa's? Also interesting that Lisa said that this was on their agenda for years, well she didn't get control til only a few years ago and even then again all was left to her mom to run, so to me it says this is something Pris wanted to do for years.
And...why in the world was Cilla paid SIX MILLION dollars for right to the Presley name? I have never understood that!! Sorry if I am off-topic, but I had to ask.....

[Suzan]

And...why in the world was Cilla paid SIX MILLION dollars for right to the Presley name? I have never understood that!! Sorry if I am off-topic, but I had to ask.....


That's exactly what I'm asking lol.
Per divorce decree she was not allowed to use his name for business ventures. Did that become null and void after his passing?
The fact she got paid that much for his name is boggling to me, she ceased being a Presley on Oct. 9, 1973..

Who would be best to run Graceland? Me. :lmfao::lmfao: Just JOKING! NO thanks! :D

[cameron]

And...why in the world was Cilla paid SIX MILLION dollars for right to the Presley name? I have never understood that!! Sorry if I am off-topic, but I had to ask.....

Don't understand that either. I guess, technically, Lisa would have "owned" the name. If you look at the lawsuits ; the name "belonged "to EPE.
Unless Lisa "shared" that with Priscilla ?

I'd like to see someone that really cares about Elvis and his legacy myself run Graceland. Of course, they'd still need all the education behind them.
Maybe, a HUGE fan of EP?? (y)

[Diane]

Well I think Billy is the only really close relative and I don't believe he would be capable of running Graceland so I still feel I wish Lisa would take the reins from her mother and do as Elvis would have wanted.

Diane

[Unchained Melody]

I would like to see someone who is actually a fan of Elvis and the legend to run Graceland instead of just another guy with alot of money and thats all he's interested in. Someone who knows what we fans want when it comes to music and films that are being released.

[presley31]

I think priscilla greedy IMO

[MissyM]

As much as I think Billy would keep Graceland true to Elvis, I think the job would have been to big for him. I have very mixed feeling on the whole thing. Glad the fans have it but also wish it was never done. I really get funny about the idea of people tromping all over the place. But that's just me.

[ksimms2]

Maybe EPE should start a contest and have all fans interested in help run Graceland do some sort of presentation, etc. and they can pick a winner from that......and first order of business? Kick Priscilla's *** out!! lol.....and let Billy in.

[presley31]

l would like to see lisa's kids running graceland and learning more about there grandfather.

[BrianK]

I think Graceland is doing quite nicely as a historic landmark. It should be restored back to August 1977 state & then left alone. It's what EPE does with the area around Graceland that counts. Who & how they decide to run things at EPE I'm not sure. I think an IMAX type theater, a state of the art museum, and a nice hotel would be OK, as long as it is not right next to Graceland. But more than that I think would be pushing it. A smaller project done right and with money & taste would be good. A huge spread like Universal Studios might be to much. I don't know if I would travel to Memphs with the family to eat Elvis burgers & ride the Colonel's Carousel.

[MissyM]

Whoo hoo Ksimms, you go girl, don't cha know I luvs the way you think!!

[ksimms2]

Whoo hoo Ksimms, you go girl, don't cha know I luvs the way you think!!

lol...well...I know Billy probably couldn't run it by himself - but I'd sure like to see him back in the fold. Reap some of the benefits that Priscilla is getting now. He deserves it in my opinion....

But ultimately, it is being ran just fine now I guess....it just irks me to see Priscilla cash in on Elvis like this - when she walked away back in 1973.

[Suzan]

lol...well...I know Billy probably couldn't run it by himself - but I'd sure like to see him back in the fold. Reap some of the benefits that Priscilla is getting now. He deserves it in my opinion....

But ultimately, it is being ran just fine now I guess....it just irks me to see Priscilla cash in on Elvis like this - when she walked away back in 1973.

Soooo very well said! Amen sista in all that you said in your prior comments on this thread as well!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D (y):hug:

[MissyM]

Yeh, and a big A-M-E=N from me on that.

[Diane]

Here is another one!(y)(y)(y)

Diane

[c loves elvis]

Whats did I miss? I know that when Elvis died Vernon almost lost Graceland.
He called Cilla and asked for her help and look what she has done. Vernon even panicked and sold the lisa marie plane, Cilla found it and Bought it back. I am a true Elvis fan and I try to read between the lines of all the tabloids bullcrap but I don't know what she has done so wrong, yes to me she will always be pricilla presley I don't mean no harm by what I say. I hope is ok That I say What I feel As for Lisa singing the problem I see there is her music drowns her voice out to much. What do you think?

[c loves elvis]

Oh I'm sorry My name is Connie

[c loves elvis]

My E-mail address is cmulvan42@yahoo.com I would love to hear from some Elvis fans and make some friends e-mail me anytime.

[presley31]

Oh I'm sorry My name is Connie

Welcome to tcb connie:clap:

[Suzan]

Whats did I miss? I know that when Elvis died Vernon almost lost Graceland.
He called Cilla and asked for her help and look what she has done. Vernon even panicked and sold the lisa marie plane, Cilla found it and Bought it back. I am a true Elvis fan and I try to read between the lines of all the tabloids bullcrap but I don't know what she has done so wrong, yes to me she will always be pricilla presley I don't mean no harm by what I say. I hope is ok That I say What I feel As for Lisa singing the problem I see there is her music drowns her voice out to much. What do you think?

I've never heard nor read that he called her for anything, other then visitation w/Lisa. He sold the plane because he had no use for it. It was no secret where the aircraft was, it didn't take them long to locate.:D
We all have our opinions re. Prissy.:)

[cameron]

Whats did I miss? I know that when Elvis died Vernon almost lost Graceland.
He called Cilla and asked for her help and look what she has done. Vernon even panicked and sold the lisa marie plane, Cilla found it and Bought it back. I am a true Elvis fan and I try to read between the lines of all the tabloids bullcrap but I don't know what she has done so wrong, yes to me she will always be pricilla presley I don't mean no harm by what I say. I hope is ok That I say What I feel As for Lisa singing the problem I see there is her music drowns her voice out to much. What do you think?

Hi Connie ..
Everyone's supposed to be able to give their opinion here.

:hmm: Just never heard that about Vernon. It certainly seems plausible.
From what I've heard/read ,the finances of Vernon wasn't too good then.

As I've said before, my dislike of Cilla has nothing to do with EPE or Elvis.
I certainly don't hate her .IMO, I think she's done ok with Graceland.
Better than Vernon or even Elvis. ;)
IMO, She will always be Priscilla Presley to everyone, no matter whether anyone likes it or not.She's not his widow, but evidently, still carries the Presley name. Doesn't bother me.

IMO, Lisa has a nice voice; I just don't like her music. Could be the generation gap.
Have fun and take care .

[riley]

her carrying his name doesn't bother me neither.

And credit to those who deserve credit...

IMO noone could have runned it any better then Priscilla.

Who was available at the time, noone...

For a person with no diploma's whatsoever, she did more then a fine job.

True Elvis sells himself...

But so many things are to be considered running a real multi dollar empire.

She does not do that alone I know that ofcourse ,but she always had her final sayso.
Choose the right people and must have spend many many time doing so.
Important descisions were on her shoulders.

[cameron]

her carrying his name doesn't bother me neither.

And credit to those who deserve credit...

IMO noone could have runned it any better then Priscilla.

Who was available at the time, noone...

For a person with no diploma's whatsoever, she did more then a fine job.

True Elvis sells himself...

But so many things are to be considered running a real multi dollar empire.

She does not do that alone I know that ofcourse ,but she always had her final sayso.
Choose the right people and must have spend many many time doing so.
Important descisions were on her shoulders.

I agree, Riley.
Some forget all she's done. She could have just sold Graceland ; or worse, lost it all. Some will disagree with that , but I think that it's true.

She's the one that got help to open and promote Graceland.
No, she didn't have the education to do it alone; but she had sense enough to get out and find someone that did. ;)

[riley]

That is true, all the way, Cameron

[Stryx]

Whats did I miss? I know that when Elvis died Vernon almost lost Graceland.
He called Cilla and asked for her help and look what she has done. Vernon even panicked and sold the lisa marie plane, Cilla found it and Bought it back. I am a true Elvis fan and I try to read between the lines of all the tabloids bullcrap but I don't know what she has done so wrong, yes to me she will always be pricilla presley I don't mean no harm by what I say. I hope is ok That I say What I feel As for Lisa singing the problem I see there is her music drowns her voice out to much. What do you think?

Vernon phone Cilla for help?:lmfao:

Back to your history books that's fiction.

[Stryx]

her carrying his name doesn't bother me neither.

And credit to those who deserve credit...

IMO noone could have runned it any better then Priscilla.

Who was available at the time, noone...

For a person with no diploma's whatsoever, she did more then a fine job.

True Elvis sells himself...

But so many things are to be considered running a real multi dollar empire.

She does not do that alone I know that ofcourse ,but she always had her final sayso.
Choose the right people and must have spend many many time doing so.
Important descisions were on her shoulders.



That's why Vernon didn't trust her enough and got some accountants and the bank in to watch her.

She then got Jack Soden.

She chose to hound Billy out of Graceland.

She gutted the house and redecorated it to when she was there! ( lol she think Elvis fans care about WHEN she was there!?!)

Spent money she got off EPE on Scientology. Elvis never intended her to get a dime let alone throw it into that bogus cult as he disliked it.

She opened the home of the most popular entertainer of all time......is it any wonder it did well!!

[riley]

Like I said Elvis sold himself but somebody had to take care of everything.
He was not there anymore to sign papers, or to make descisions.

What she did with her money earned out of EPE well that's her business. Don't trust Scientology either but we the fans cannot tell her what to spend and where to spend.
That's her business

[Dorothy]

That's exactly what I'm asking lol.
Per divorce decree she was not allowed to use his name for business ventures. Did that become null and void after his passing?
The fact she got paid that much for his name is boggling to me, she ceased being a Presley on Oct. 9, 1973..

Who would be best to run Graceland? Me. :lmfao::lmfao: Just JOKING! NO thanks! :D

Pisscilla....oops I meant Priscilla,:lol:, got paid for the Presley name? :doh: That name that she said just drags her down......:supriced: Poor woman!! What a burden she has had to carry!! Guess that's why she's always kept the name!! :hmm:
Yeah, how did she even have the right to sell the name? It wasn't her name!

Too bad there's not a group of fans somewhere that could afford to run Graceland. Not that it is being run badly, but I think with some REAL fans in there, maybe some of that archive stuff would see the light of day. Maybe get some home movies not seen before. Maybe have some decent Elvis memorabilia instead of cheap trinkets!! More concert footage.....

Just my humble opinion:D

[cameron]

Like I said Elvis sold himself but somebody had to take care of everything.
He was not there anymore to sign papers, or to make descisions.

What she did with her money earned out of EPE well that's her business. Don't trust Scientology either but we the fans cannot tell her what to spend and where to spend.
That's her business
I agree, Riley.
I've never understood what anyone ever saw in scientology either.

Elvis himself had the bank as administrator too.
It's just good business .

[Stryx]

Like I said Elvis sold himself but somebody had to take care of everything.
He was not there anymore to sign papers, or to make descisions.

What she did with her money earned out of EPE well that's her business. Don't trust Scientology either but we the fans cannot tell her what to spend and where to spend.
That's her business


All I know is if I died and someone I used be in a relationship with that was ommitted from my will suddenly was running my estate and taking money off my legacy to spend on a cult that I hated.....I woulden't be best pleased.

Shes continuing to drink and bathe in the Elvis cash cow and she should never have been involved in Graceland.

Vernon was too weak minded to fight her off, and all that can be said is it is only because of Lisa. Otherwise she would have been left rot in L.A.

[cameron]

It was intended for Lisa above everyone else.
She got it. It's up to her what she does with it, IMO.
None of the Presley's owe us a thing; especially not Elvis .

[Stryx]

It was intended for Lisa above everyone else.
She got it. It's up to her what she does with it, IMO.
None of the Presley's owe us a thing; especially not Elvis .

Theres only one Presley left....Lisa.

[MissyM]

Yes the Estate had a "cash flow" problem. That is why Vernon began to liquidate by selling the plane. If you read Elvis's will, I feel it reads as if the thought was,, that it would be liquidated, at least to a certain extent. Now we hear that there is a wearhouse full of memorablia and personal effects. Some are being sold off gradually. Some such as videos are now being used (that involves money) to promote all things Elvis. Even the orgininal Graceland/Elvis piano was just up for auction. Cilla bought him a new one, the other was put in storage in the basement. Why is this being sold now along with other things? Elvis ,after death, may have had a "cash flow" problem but he was worth plenty in property and personal assests. But the cash flow problem would have been a problem to Vernon, and Pricilla. Pricilla no longer had her child support coming in. There is a book out that I'd love to get a hold of listing all assests. Now we will see that gradually ,through the years, things being sold off or used. We will see (if one cares to watch) the millions that they will bring in. Lisa is the sole owner of said property. I think that's great. All of this could have and would have been auctioned off after Elvis's death. Perhaps Vernon thought that is what would happen. (that the bank and Cilla would do that) and thereby save the house till the date Lisa could take possession. It is quite common and very often done in such cases. Like I said, read the will, there are clauses in it to cover that. On the other hand there is nothing that would have lead anyone to think that Elvis would have wanted Graceland opened to the public. There lies my problem. I think Elvis would have no problem with his "things" being sold and people who loved him owning them. But having Graceland opened? Sorry, I just do not think so and there is nothing in his will that gives me a clue to it. When it all boils down to the nuts and bolts of it, I don't think what Elvis would have wanted was taken into consideration for one moment. There would have also been plenty of money from the sale of the property and personal effects to have the bank invest for Lisa and gain a huge value. (perhaps stocks and bonds and ect) So, she would have done quite well. How many millions did "she" need??? I know the value of things at the time because a relative had to sell some gifts. (not Billy-someone else) So it was in Pricilla's interest to open Graceland. So the myth that she has perpetrated all these years is false. People never expected Graceland to be opened. But they did expect that Elvis's estate would have to be liquidated at some point, and being able to hopefully save Graceland. Elvis loved giving things to people. He gave aways his own things often. He loved giving ppl gifts and seeing how happy it made them. He did not like fans on his property. (unless he invited them in which case was rare) Ask yourselves, what do you think he would have wanted, what he thought would happen, what you think he accepted as what was going to happen???

[presley31]

dunno if elvis would like it or not, but l'am happy we fans get to tour graceland and see how he lived behind those gates.

[MissyM]

Well, in a way I am too. That's why I have mixed emotions on it. I had all my feeling completely in order till I started actually talking to fans. Great, just great! Ok, I realize that no one knows for sure, 100 percent. But if you were betting, what do you think Elvis intended or would have wanted????

[presley31]

my guess would be for lisa living at graceland and taking care of it like he had always done.

[cameron]

Missy:
I DO understand what you're saying. Maybe that's why I never went back for so many years . It seemed like an invasion of his privacy.
Another thing to consider re: his will. Grandma Minnie and Aunt Delta had to be provided for until they died. I don't remember how long that was after .
Too, I think the bodies would have to be moved before selling Graceland.

But, IMO, the fans should be greatful Priscilla did elect to keep it .

[presley31]

Sometimes l have to wonder what does lisa think of fans touring her father house everyday?? Dunno how l would feel, but in another sense l'am grateful we can visit there.

[riley]

I think he would have wanted Lisa to live in it with her kids

[MissyM]

I do too, or at least part time. I think the laughter, the celebrations, the get together of family, riding the go-carts, horses. It could have been a place for Lisa to get away from things. Lots of celbs have more than one home.. But I suppose the deal was done and long before Lisa could decide.

[ricardo b. prospero]

It is pretty hard to say who must manage Graceland but definitely not Liza Marie and her mom I hope. The person must be a true Elvis fan and a dedicated one who will put first the best interest of Elvis before anything else.

[Diane]

I agree with Riley and MissyM. I would have liked to have seen Lisa living at Graceland with her children. I know it wasn't financially possible but I bet that's what Elvis had hoped for too.

Diane

[riley]

MissyM


But I suppose the deal was done and long before Lisa could decide



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Indeed, It was alreaddy all decided before she came legal age.
Too bad.
It is no house anymore, it is a museum now...

[MissyM]

I guess it is all too personal for me. Graceland was Elvis's, for sure. But it was also a place that people in the family/his friends held in their hearts, as a place where they had fun, loved, celebrated all that families do. It was a private sanctuary. If those walls could talk???? Elvis was so proud of it. He would have never ever sold it. I so strongly beleive that because of all that it meant to him. How can you turn your memories into money. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. It really bothers me. But I do see it from the fans side. You guys are the best so I will try not to belabor on my feelings.

[Getlo]

Elvis was so proud of it. He would have never ever sold it.

Although his will basically said "Sell it if you need to".

"Item III:
Real Estate
If I am the owner of any real estate at the time of my death, I
instruct and empower my Executor and my Trustee (as the case may
be) to hold such real estate for investment, or to sell same, or
any portion therof, as my Executor or my Trustee (as the case
may be) shall in his sole judgment determine to be for the best
interest of my estate and the beneficiaries thereof."

[MissyM]

I would not dispute that. Under certain circumstances, he allowed for others to do so.

[Getlo]

Who best to run Graceland?

Why, stryx, jak and me!

Who else? :lol:(y):lmfao:

Man, that would be sweet ...

[Diane]

Lol, I hate to admit it but you might not do such a bad job of it.:) I can't see any of you as greedy as Sillersman.

Diane

[Johnny]

Lol, I hate to admit it but you might not do such a bad job of it.:) I can't see any of you as greedy as Sillersman.

Diane

In what way is Sillerman greedy?

[MissyM]

I always wonder, how much money do people really need. I mean, you can't take anything with you. I know Elvis made alot of money in his lifetime. But he was doing what he loved and I think the money was "icing on the cake". So as far as I can see Sillerman just loves making money. Lots of money.

[ksimms2]

Soooo very well said! Amen sista in all that you said in your prior comments on this thread as well!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D (y):hug:

geez guys...:blush: making me blush here.....lol. Thanks for the kind words. I just speak it how I feel it...:king:

[ksimms2]

I agree, Riley.
Some forget all she's done. She could have just sold Graceland ; or worse, lost it all. Some will disagree with that , but I think that it's true.

She's the one that got help to open and promote Graceland.
No, she didn't have the education to do it alone; but she had sense enough to get out and find someone that did. ;)

I agree Cameron, Priscilla has done a great job thus far. I was only responding the the subject of "Who would you like to see run Graceland" I'm thinking she meant other than who is running it now.....just to see everyone's thoughts on this I'm sure.....

Connie - welcome to the group - and yes - you are certainly welcome to post your thoughts on any thread out there....don't let anything or anyone scare you off - we do squabble some - but we are all here because we love Elvis.......:hug:

[ksimms2]

Pisscilla....oops I meant Priscilla,:lol:, got paid for the Presley name? :doh: That name that she said just drags her down......:supriced: Poor woman!! What a burden she has had to carry!! Guess that's why she's always kept the name!! :hmm:
Yeah, how did she even have the right to sell the name? It wasn't her name!

Too bad there's not a group of fans somewhere that could afford to run Graceland. Not that it is being run badly, but I think with some REAL fans in there, maybe some of that archive stuff would see the light of day. Maybe get some home movies not seen before. Maybe have some decent Elvis memorabilia instead of cheap trinkets!! More concert footage.....

Just my humble opinion:D

Dorothy I tend to agree with you on this (y) I would love to see more archives brought out, home movies, etc.

[ksimms2]

Who best to run Graceland?

Why, stryx, jak and me!

Who else? :lol:(y):lmfao:

Man, that would be sweet ...

Ha Getlo! I agree - you guys would do a great job! Can I get a discount once you take over??? Puleeeze?? (y)

[cameron]

Unfortunately, I think any fans trying to run Graceland would not work out.
It would turn into a "free for all" when they disagreed.
Much like on Elvis sites I've seen. :hmm:

Better to let Lisa do what she will. Elvis meant for her to have it; to live in or to sell. Sure, I wish she and her family might have lived there.
Of course, if she'd decided to do that..no one would be going to see Graceland.

IMO, as I've seriously considerd it .

[presley31]

Unfortunately, I think any fans trying to run Graceland would not work out.
It would turn into a "free for all" when they disagreed.
Much like on Elvis sites I've seen. :hmm:

Better to let Lisa do what she will. Elvis meant for her to have it; to live in or to sell. Sure, I wish she and her family might have lived there.
Of course, if she'd decided to do that..no one would be going to see Graceland.

IMO, as I've seriously considerd it .

l agree cameron.(y)

[Getlo]

Unfortunately, I think any fans trying to run Graceland would not work out. It would turn into a "free for all" when they disagreed.

It depends on the fans, madam; it depends on the type of fans.

[cameron]

It depends on the fans, madam; it depends on the type of fans.

Well, madam it's just my opinion.
I've seen all kinds.;)

[ms_epblvd]

I think it is being run fine now too. I dont really care about the land around it or what they do to it but I hope the house keeps the beauty it always had.

I was there for one of the Elvis movie nights in August and as much as I really enjoyed it, the huge movie screen they set up was just UGLY and the beauty of the house was destroyed at night. It seemed very carnival like.

[May]

but I would really like to have seen it back when Elvis lived in it....(even though he had horrible decorating taste...lol)


It WAS the 70's ........

[ksimms2]

It WAS the 70's ........

yes I know it was the 70's......his taste was very odd I think. Priscilla has nice taste though....but I want to see how it was when Elvis lived there - I think it was decorated all Red Velour and stuff...

[Johnny]

I always wonder, how much money do people really need. I mean, you can't take anything with you. I know Elvis made alot of money in his lifetime. But he was doing what he loved and I think the money was "icing on the cake". So as far as I can see Sillerman just loves making money. Lots of money.

So I take it that you don't like making money?? What's wrong with gaining a buck, just like Sillerman has done in the past? Heck, even I (and 99,9% of all people on earth) love money and rightly so.

And with all due respect, I was asking Diane why she thinks Sillerman is "greedy"

[cameron]

The man who owns Elvis: Elvis Presley was the king — rock's first icon. A hip-swiveling heartthrob with more hit records than anyone in history. Thirty years after his death, Elvis is still idolized. So what is that name worth now?

To Bob Sillerman, who bought the king's name and likeness, it was worth $114 million. That's what his company, CKX, paid for Elvis Presley enterprises two years ago. Elvis' music was not part of the deal. he sold most of his hits back to his label before his death. but the family sold 85 percent of everything else and his ex-wife Priscilla Presley says it wasn't an easy decision.

"Absolutely. I mean I'm not gonna lie. It's pretty frightening when, you know, you've been a private company for all these years," she told Sunday Morning correspondent Anthony Mason. "You know and you're the boss."

But Priscilla, the mother of his only child, Lisa Marie, says the family business needed an investor to expand. And Sillerman was just the man to do it.

"He just got it," she said. "You know there is no other company like his company."

His company also owns the "American Idol' franchise, which Sillerman bought for $175 million. Then last year he added "the greatest of all time" to his roster of icons, buying rights to Muhammad Ali's name for another $50 million. A Bronx born billionaire, Sillerman made his fortune in radio and the concert promotion business. Now he sees Elvis as an under developed asset. On his corporate jet, Mason flew with him to Memphis to tour Graceland, the 13 acre estate where Elvis lived with Priscilla and Lisa Marie. Sillerman said he doesn't feel like he owns Graceland

"It's still their home," he said. "I don't think you can own something that's as big as Elvis Presley. I think I feel a sense of stewardship. But not ownership."

Each year, 600,000 people file through Graceland. Sillerman believes he can double that number

"So many people want to come to Graceland because they want to celebrate his life," Sillerman said. "You know 40 percent of our visitors are unaccompanied kids under the age of 35. It tells you that it does get passed down."

[cameron]

Seems like he might have to make a buck or two.
Think many don't like changes. I'm not fond of changes either. But, life is full of changes .If not, we stagnate .
I'm just holding my breath and hoping he does Elvis proud.
Expect he's well aware he's on trial.;)

[Diane]

Well Jth, in answer to your question as to why I think Sillerman is greedy, it's because of all the tasteless merchandise he's putting out there for sale....as in Elvis talking heads, bathtub duckies etc etc etc.

Those things have to be for $$$$$$ because they sure aren't doing Elvis image any good.

I'm not going to argue this any further with you.


Diane

[cameron]

Man, I didn't like those head things either !!
Did EPE license those ?? Never thought about it before . If they did; they need a good butt chewing. Of course, it never occured to me to look because I knew I wasn't interested . I'll see if they will tell me...

Long before Sillerman became involved, junk was coming to EPE shops.
I just never bought any. The fans can stop that pretty fast; just don't buy what you don't like.

I'm not defending Sillerman. Just saying; there's nothing I can do about it .
If he does the way he talks, he'll be ok.
If not, I'm sure he'll hear about it . From me too.

IMO, things have gotten all blown out of proportion with "the other" thread on the changes. We'll have to wait and see. I don't get too excited about some of that stuff. Will believe it when the building starts .

[presley31]

l'll believe it when l see it.

[Diane]

No, Sillerman wasn't the first to start with the tasteless Elvis merchandise...we can give the credit for that to the Colonel. I had just hoped that Sillerman had better taste and would cut that junk out in respect to Elvis.....but no......:'(.

Diane

[cameron]

I sent EPE an email. Will see what they have to say..if they even answer me. They my not answer since I already expressed my disapproval about that thing.
Sometimes I hear right back, sometimes a couple of days . A few times; they never answered . We shall see .

Hey, did you hear that Viva Viagra thing? Lisa was NOT happy about that .They didn't own the music so they couldn't stop it.

[Diane]

Oh yeah, I saw that commercial several times. I don't blame Lisa for getting upset about it. It could have been worse but still....:blink:

The car commercial is cute though.

Diane

[cameron]

As promised . I asked; their answer .Not too friendly huh? :hmm:
:lol::lol:

EPE is not a manufacturing facility. More information about licensed
products can be found on shopelvis.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:25 PM
To: graceland
Subject: Talking Elvis Heads

Could you please tell me who's making those Elvis
talking heads ?? I sure hope it's NOT EPE.
Thank you,
Cameron

[Suzan]

geez guys...:blush: making me blush here.....lol. Thanks for the kind words. I just speak it how I feel it...:king:

:D(y)


(y) I agree Dorothy! Kudos, well said.:D

[MissyM]

Not sure it is relavant, EPE gives people permission to make them and sell them. They are the only ones who can and as a board member Pricilla over-sees it. Elvis commercialized at it's grandest. Just remember that although Lisa sold 85 percent she ownes a lot of stock in the company and the sister companies. So when they make money so does she. A portion will filter down into her pocket. From wikipedia:

His latest vehicle is CKX, Inc., which has already bought majority rights to Graceland, the Elvis Presley estate [3]; as well as the assets of Simon Fullers 19 Entertainment, whose assets include TV hit "American Idol".

Oh and lets not forget that Pricilla is dating Nigel Lithogoe who is the producer of American Idol.

[Diane]

MissyM, I didn't know Priscilla was dating Nigel Lithogoe......wow, always trailing after the $$$$$$$. :lol:


Diane

[presley31]

good on her l'am glad she's happy.

[ksimms2]

Sillerman said he doesn't feel like he owns Graceland

"It's still their home," he said. "I don't think you can own something that's as big as Elvis Presley. I think I feel a sense of stewardship. But not ownership."

I'm confused, I thought Lisa Marie still owned Graceland itself....??? But it sounds here as though she does not.

[presley31]

http://www.elvispresleynews.com/SaleofGraceland.html

infor about graceland

[ksimms2]

Thanks Jen, that explains it. Lisa Marie keeps Graceland the actual home and her father's personal effects and allows EPE to "basically rent them" from her....good move on her part for sure.

[presley31]

More stuff about graceland operations.

NEW YORK, Oct. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CKX, Inc. announced today that 19X, Inc., which previously had agreed to acquire the Company in a merger transaction, had delivered financing letters in furtherance of its obligation to provide the Company with evidence of financing sufficient to complete the acquisition on the previously disclosed terms. The letters, which have not yet been signed by any parties, include firm commitments from, as well as other detailed arrangements and engagements with, three prominent Wall Street firms and expressions of intentions from management and other significant investors in CKX.

The Company has a regularly scheduled Board Meeting this Friday, at which the Board of Directors will review the letters. Following completion of the Board's review, 19X is expected to deliver fully executed letters.

About CKX, Inc.

CKX, Inc. is engaged in the ownership, development and commercial utilization of entertainment content. To date, the Company has focused on acquiring globally recognized entertainment content and related assets, including the rights to the name, image and likeness of Elvis Presley, the operations of Graceland, the rights to the name, image and likeness of Muhammad Ali and proprietary rights to the IDOLS television brand, including the American Idol series in the United States and local adaptations of the IDOLS television show format which, collectively, air in over 100 countries around the world. On June 1, 2007 CKX entered into a merger agreement with 19X, Inc., a private company owned and controlled by Mr. Sillerman, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of CKX, and Simon R. Fuller, a director of CKX and the Chief Executive Officer of 19 Entertainment Limited, a wholly-owned subsidiary of CKX, that will result in the sale of CKX to 19X at a maximum price of $13.75 per share in cash. In addition and as a condition to the merger, the Company has previously announced its plan to distribute to its stockholders two shares of common stock of FX Real Estate and Entertainment Inc. for every ten shares of common or preferred stock of CKX held on the record date for such distribution. For more information about FX Real Estate and Entertainment Inc. and the planned distribution, please see FX Real Estate and Entertainment's Registration Statement on Form S-1 as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on August 24, 2007 and as amended on October 9, 2007. For more information about CKX, Inc., visit its corporate website at http://www.ckx.com.

A registration statement relating to shares of common stock of FX Real Estate and Entertainment Inc. has been filed with the Securities Exchange Commission. These securities may not be sold, nor may offers to buy be accepted, prior to the time the registration statement becomes effective. This press release does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy these securities, nor will there be any sale of these securities in any state in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful prior to registration or qualification under the securities laws of any such state.

[MissyM]

Yeh Diane, it's rumored that is why he left his wife. She had left Girabaldi the prior year. But who knows when it all started.

[presley31]

they just started dating this year missy. Marc and priscilla weren't happy, but she was single after they separted.

[utmom2008]

As promised . I asked; their answer .Not too friendly huh? :hmm:
:lol::lol:

EPE is not a manufacturing facility. More information about licensed
products can be found on shopelvis.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:25 PM
To: graceland
Subject: Talking Elvis Heads

Could you please tell me who's making those Elvis
talking heads ?? I sure hope it's NOT EPE.
Thank you,
Cameron
Cameron...I saw those talking heads as well, and had the EXACT same thoughts. But....aren't they licensed by EPE?? The absolute epitomy of tacky (n) (n)

[utmom2008]

I think Graceland is doing quite nicely as a historic landmark. It should be restored back to August 1977 state & then left alone. It's what EPE does with the area around Graceland that counts. Who & how they decide to run things at EPE I'm not sure. I think an IMAX type theater, a state of the art museum, and a nice hotel would be OK, as long as it is not right next to Graceland. But more than that I think would be pushing it. A smaller project done right and with money & taste would be good. A huge spread like Universal Studios might be to much. I don't know if I would travel to Memphs with the family to eat Elvis burgers & ride the Colonel's Carousel.
Great point Brian...very well said! (y):D(y)

[utmom2008]

MissyM


But I suppose the deal was done and long before Lisa could decide



end quote


Indeed, It was alreaddy all decided before she came legal age.
Too bad.
It is no house anymore, it is a museum now...
Lisa said on Good morning America(back in August) that she could not stay there now for several reasons. One being that the upstairs is so dusty that it bothers her allergies. Don't they have someone to at least dust the upstairs bedrooms???:angry:

[utmom2008]

Well Jth, in answer to your question as to why I think Sillerman is greedy, it's because of all the tasteless merchandise he's putting out there for sale....as in Elvis talking heads, bathtub duckies etc etc etc.

Those things have to be for $$$$$$ because they sure aren't doing Elvis image any good.

I'm not going to argue this any further with you.


Diane
I agree Diane(y) The EPE catalog that I get in the mail has some of the tackiest things in it that I have ever seen. The same kind of stuff that gives non-Elvis fans plenty of ammunition.....(n)(n)

[presley31]

there are fans out there that pay for that stuff, but IMO l wouldn't buy anything that looks silly.

[presley31]

Lisa said on Good morning America(back in August) that she could not stay there now for several reasons. One being that the upstairs is so dusty that it bothers her allergies. Don't they have someone to at least dust the upstairs bedrooms???:angry:

I can't see them leaving elvis room dusty. my book inside graceland they had maids that cleaned up there. If it is dusty than lisa should get someone to clean it.

[utmom2008]

I can't see them leaving elvis room dusty. my book inside graceland they had maids that cleaned up there. If it is dusty than lisa should get someone to clean it.
I agree, but those are her words. Too dusty and it is bad for her allergies. I thought it was a very strange thing to say...........

[presley31]

Thats really a shame her fathers room is dusty. It should be kept clean like the rest of the house.

[cameron]

Cameron...I saw those talking heads as well, and had the EXACT same thoughts. But....aren't they licensed by EPE?? The absolute epitomy of tacky (n) (n)

I sent Diane another answer I got from licensing at EPE. I wasn't going to pull this thread up again; just for that. Since it's here again; she can share, I don't mind. I've already deleted it from my in-box.

To answer you, yes ,they said they licensed those things !!(n)
I always send EPE my complaints ; usually with many others .

[Diane]

Didn't get a chance to answer your pm Cameron..sorry but it's what I figured. Anything that is put out by anyone else has to have it okayed by EPE.

Thanks for the information.(y)

Diane

[cameron]

It's ok, Diane. Just wanted you to see what they said.
I figured they had to have approved if it was done.
Well, they know my opinion about them anyway....
Would take people not buying them I guess to stop them.
Can't imagine anyone wanting one .:doh:

[Diane]

That's about it Cameron, unfortunately too many people like the tacky stuff so it makes it worth their while to keep pushing it.

Diane

[presley31]

Those talking heads are foolish and silly.

[Suzan]

Aren't we a tad bit off topic?

I think the job (albeit as commercial as it may seem at times) is being done just fine.

[Dorothy]

Lisa said on Good morning America(back in August) that she could not stay there now for several reasons. One being that the upstairs is so dusty that it bothers her allergies. Don't they have someone to at least dust the upstairs bedrooms???:angry:

Sounds like a pretty lame excuse to me!! Anyone can dust!! Even Lisa Marie Presley!! :lmfao:

I'll be retiring in May of 2008......maybe Lisa would like to hire me to dust her rooms!! :lmfao: