View Full Version : why didn't elvis date people his own age
presley31
10-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Someone on one of the threads stated a good questions why didn't elvis date anybody his age or closer to it??
ksimms2
10-26-2007, 08:18 AM
good question Jen. I think he liked the arm candy - he wanted the public to see him with beautiful young women. Which kind of goes against the other thing - him wanting them to talk baby talk to him and tuck him in, and treat him as a child. Kind of strange huh?
SleepyJack
10-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Possibly it was partly down to the time and place he was born and raised in...it was no great scandal back then to marry a girl as young as sixteen.However I think Elvis liked the idea of being around younger women..and it made him feel good about himself....I`m not saying that he was just another vain,self-obsessed male..I just think he saw it in his own southern way as a good thing.I`ll leave the theories about him not wanting to replace his mother to the more qualified of you out there!!
Lisarose
10-26-2007, 08:25 AM
But you forget, Elvis did date girls his own age - when he was a teenager! As he got older, only the number changed, his personality didn't. Remember at 30 & up, he was still running around acting like a little boy! Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters, women his age - even those as in love with them as we are would just get tired of it all. I don't think it was all eye/arm candy. There are a lot of attractive, older women, & women his age, he & Ann-Margret were an item. Wasn't he attracted to Barbara Stanwyck? I doubt that more than one roller coaster ride would have kept her coming back for more.
presley31
10-26-2007, 08:28 AM
I think if he dated some near his own age he would have a better understanding of things than with the younger girls like linda, ginger, priscilla.
SleepyJack
10-26-2007, 08:38 AM
I was actually thinking about this a while back.....I was after watching the Johnny Cash music video for "Hurt"...and although it was heartbreaking it was great to see the love between himself and June Carter-Cash....and they had a pretty rough time of it over the years. I guess there is no changing the past....if I could I would go back and tell Elvis to forget the bunnies and get a real woman....would he listen to me???
presley31
10-26-2007, 08:44 AM
I was actually thinking about this a while back.....I was after watching the Johnny Cash music video for "Hurt"...and although it was heartbreaking it was great to see the love between himself and June Carter-Cash....and they had a pretty rough time of it over the years. I guess there is no changing the past....if I could I would go back and tell Elvis to forget the bunnies and get a real woman....would he listen to me???
I don't know if he would listern:hmm:I wish elvis found that june in someone that stood by him through the ups and downs of everything that was in his life. When you love someone you love the faults and all that came with that person.
SleepyJack
10-26-2007, 08:53 AM
I agree with you!
ksimms2
10-26-2007, 08:53 AM
But you forget, Elvis did date girls his own age - when he was a teenager! As he got older, only the number changed, his personality didn't. Remember at 30 & up, he was still running around acting like a little boy! Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters, women his age - even those as in love with them as we are would just get tired of it all. I don't think it was all eye/arm candy. There are a lot of attractive, older women, & women his age, he & Ann-Margret were an item. Wasn't he attracted to Barbara Stanwyck? I doubt that more than one roller coaster ride would have kept her coming back for more.
good point Lisarose (y)
Lisarose
10-26-2007, 09:00 AM
I was actually thinking about this a while back.....I was after watching the Johnny Cash music video for "Hurt"...and although it was heartbreaking it was great to see the love between himself and June Carter-Cash....and they had a pretty rough time of it over the years. I guess there is no changing the past....if I could I would go back and tell Elvis to forget the bunnies and get a real woman....would he listen to me???
They did have a tough row to hoe, but they did it together. Johnny wasn't out there acting like a playboy, just a jackass. Didn't they travel together on all their tours? That's probably what kept their marriage healthy, being together. Elvis had the attitude that men didn't take their wives to the office (work) with them. Maybe not, but they did come home to them at the end of each day. I suppose that's what kept Paul & Linda McCartney together for so long.
And Elvis would have listened to you, but it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Suzan
10-26-2007, 11:40 AM
I think he liked them younger because they weren't experienced and he could mold them. I've also heard that he was quite a child himself in his behaviour, etc...so maybe the age thing in numbers was big but not in emotion or mindset?
He also had a fear of getting old, etc..so maybe a younger woman in his 40's made him feel like he had part of his youth back?
And again, some men just like younger women, just like some women love dating younger men.
And yes, lol, there is always the eye/arm candy aspect.:D
Burning_Love
10-26-2007, 02:24 PM
Perhaps, IMO, in a way, he saw them as a sister like figure as he was an only child.
Maybe it helped him re-discover his youth in the latter years.
But you forget, Elvis did date girls his own age - when he was a teenager! As he got older, only the number changed, his personality didn't. Remember at 30 & up, he was still running around acting like a little boy! Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters, women his age - even those as in love with them as we are would just get tired of it all. I don't think it was all eye/arm candy. There are a lot of attractive, older women, & women his age, he & Ann-Margret were an item. Wasn't he attracted to Barbara Stanwyck? I doubt that more than one roller coaster ride would have kept her coming back for more.
Gee I'm 52 and I still do that stuff:D
IMO Maybe he liked the idea of being more in control. Older women have strong opinions and ideas-younger ones are more easily shaped.
ksimms2
10-26-2007, 05:18 PM
Gee I'm 52 and I still do that stuff:D
IMO Maybe he liked the idea of being more in control. Older women have strong opinions and ideas-younger ones are more easily shaped.
Spoken like a true man!!! (y) I do recall him saying (or reading about him saying) he likes them young so he can mold them into what he likes....that does make sense....(well makes sense to him I guess)....
Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters,
I want to be honest and point out I never do all three at the same time, and do not do them all everyday-just every now and then:lol:;):lol:
Diane
10-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Just keep on doing them KPM...good for the soul and keeps you young! :lol:
Diane
utmom2008
10-26-2007, 07:27 PM
But you forget, Elvis did date girls his own age - when he was a teenager! As he got older, only the number changed, his personality didn't. Remember at 30 & up, he was still running around acting like a little boy! Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters, women his age - even those as in love with them as we are would just get tired of it all. I don't think it was all eye/arm candy. There are a lot of attractive, older women, & women his age, he & Ann-Margret were an item. Wasn't he attracted to Barbara Stanwyck? I doubt that more than one roller coaster ride would have kept her coming back for more.
I think he and Barbara Stanwyck did NOT get along. One of the few leading women that didn't seem to mesh with him
Diane
10-26-2007, 07:40 PM
Maybe he was attracted to younger woman because they are prettier?:lol: I think that business of saying he wanted someone young enough to mold was just guy talk in front of the MM.
Diane
Wendy56
10-26-2007, 08:01 PM
But you forget, Elvis did date girls his own age - when he was a teenager! As he got older, only the number changed, his personality didn't. Remember at 30 & up, he was still running around acting like a little boy! Shooting off fireworks, riding dirtbikes, rollercoasters, women his age - even those as in love with them as we are would just get tired of it all. I don't think it was all eye/arm candy. There are a lot of attractive, older women, & women his age, he & Ann-Margret were an item. Wasn't he attracted to Barbara Stanwyck? I doubt that more than one roller coaster ride would have kept her coming back for more.
Well said! (y)
Maybe he was attracted to younger woman because they are prettier?:lol: I think that business of saying he wanted someone young enough to mold was just guy talk in front of the MM.
Diane
A little of both I think.
Another answer would be....
Cos he could get them! :D
Lisarose
10-26-2007, 09:23 PM
I think he and Barbara Stanwyck did NOT get along. One of the few leading women that didn't seem to mesh with him
They didn't get along at first, she didn't really trust him, but he managed to charm her in the end, and I think making that large contribution to the Screen Actors Guild(?) helped her opinion a great deal as she was one of the directors of the Guild at that time.
A little of both I think.
Another answer would be....Cos he could get them! - T J
Yeah, that too!:lmfao::lmfao:
Getlo
10-26-2007, 09:47 PM
I think making that large contribution to the Screen Actors Guild(?) helped her opinion a great deal as she was one of the directors of the Guild at that time.
Elvis made a $50,000 donation to the Motion Picture Relief Fund on July 28, 1965, and presented his check to Stanwyck and comedian Bud Abbott.
This was 15 months after they had worked together on Roustabout, and they were well and truly friends by then. In fact, they were good friends by the time the filming of the movie was done.
Lisarose
10-26-2007, 09:56 PM
Thanks for the correction, Getlo, wasn't it also the single largest donation at the time? There are photos of the two of them in the gallery that has them sitting together quite friendly - even holding hands.
Getlo
10-26-2007, 10:19 PM
Thanks for the correction, Getlo, wasn't it also the single largest donation at the time?
Yes. Stanwyck was the honorary head of the Fund at the time. Frank Sinatra was also there at the ceremony.
Stanwyck was very prescient in her assessment of Elvis: "I feel sorry for the poor bastard" is one comment attributed to her around the time they worked together.
I imagine that Elvis and the MM were on their best behaviour around her. She was one lady you wouldn't want to screw with!
King_Creole
10-26-2007, 11:51 PM
she didn't really trust him, but he managed to charm her in the end,
Geez, Elvis was a dawg !!!
Seriously, I didn't think Elvis was ever into older women ... :lol:
Latte
10-27-2007, 12:07 AM
Possibly it was partly down to the time and place he was born and raised in...it was no great scandal back then to marry a girl as young as sixteen.However I think Elvis liked the idea of being around younger women..and it made him feel good about himself....I`m not saying that he was just another vain,self-obsessed male..I just think he saw it in his own southern way as a good thing.I`ll leave the theories about him not wanting to replace his mother to the more qualified of you out there!!
IA, also there were just alot of younger woman around him, if i was a guy i would jump on it too.
cameron
10-27-2007, 05:59 AM
Let me know if you ever figure this out. Why Elvis dated younger women.
My son does the same; in spite of dad's considerable knowledge to the contrary.;)
ruggishboo
10-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I see it as an ego thing with Elvis, he liked having a beautiful young woman on his arm, no matter how old he got. Perhaps a woman closer to his age would of creatively and emotionally brought more out of him; I just don't sense that was intent in relationships though, just looking through his known relationships. I get the feeling it was an image enhancer, to always have a stunning woman on his arm. He was Elvis Presley, he could have any woman he wanted. And that's seemingly what he wanted.
riley
10-27-2007, 04:49 PM
I think he didn't like too experienced women.
He was afraid he would not measure up to his image thn and afraid to be compared finally to other men.
As a sex symbol he could not have the reputation not being any better then other men (in bed) so to speak...
Getlo
10-27-2007, 06:16 PM
He was Elvis Presley, he could have any woman he wanted.
Nope.
Two words for ya: Debra Paget.
And another two: Shelley Fabares.
And others.
Sorry guys and gals, but Elvis was not every woman's dream guy!
marijaep
10-27-2007, 06:40 PM
Nope.
Two words for ya: Debra Paget.
And another two: Shelley Fabares.
And others.
Sorry guys and gals, but Elvis was not every woman's dream guy!
:lol:, you are right Getlo.
Oh well, he was the dream of most of them then....hehe
MojoElvis
10-28-2007, 12:30 AM
To quote Elvis talking to, Billy Smith, he said, " I think women over 25 should start collecting social security". I believe that, That was just his own personal fetish.
MojoElvis
10-28-2007, 12:32 AM
I read that he never dated either one of those actresses. Debra thought he was just a kid, even though Elvis was obsess with her. Even stalked her a few times and Shelly was involved with some big wig in Hollywood. Looking at Priscilla's younger pics, she looks alot like Debra.
Sheila Ryan is quoted as saying in the video, Elvis the final year, as saying, Elvis had wasn't all that in bed and would pull out before ejaculation. which left her very unsatisfied.
TC_of_EAP
10-28-2007, 03:51 AM
I read the first page and stopped then, so I prefer to post my personal opinion, strictly personal, ok ? ;-)
I think parts it's due to his Southern background, where indeed women were married at a young age and a great difference in a couple was no issue either. There are reoccuring talks that he'd loved to 'mold' a young woman into what he wanted -I believe that was just guy talk, he'd had too many guy friends he always thought he has to keep up to come close to his image.
The other issue is also the time he'd lived in, we always have to remember that female emancipation just started out in the 70s. Before that a man 'had' to be male, no matter what, and having a beautiful and of course young girl at his arm was mandatory. I remember Cybil Shephard once said that she'd learnt him to put his educated macho side apart -and he did !
To conclude there is also the side that he never really grew up (who would blame him for ? ;-), and felt better among young folks. I understand fully, I'm the same, they say that still at 80 I'll be a kid ;-)))
ksimms2
10-28-2007, 04:02 AM
Nope.
Two words for ya: Debra Paget.
And another two: Shelley Fabares.
And others.
Sorry guys and gals, but Elvis was not every woman's dream guy!
What????? :jawdrop: surely you are jesting! Elvis was the dreamiest! ;)
riley
10-28-2007, 04:20 AM
Shelley Fabares was IMO a very beautiful women.
The most beautiful of his co stars
getlow
10-28-2007, 06:37 AM
What a dumb question! Why would a 40 year old man want a 40 year old woman when he can have a 20 year old?
"Female Sir"
presley31
10-28-2007, 08:26 AM
Shelley Fabares was IMO a very beautiful women.
The most beautiful of his co stars
agreed riley(y)
ReGina_89
10-28-2007, 08:48 AM
They did have a tough row to hoe, but they did it together. Johnny wasn't out there acting like a playboy, just a jackass. Didn't they travel together on all their tours? That's probably what kept their marriage healthy, being together. Elvis had the attitude that men didn't take their wives to the office (work) with them. Maybe not, but they did come home to them at the end of each day. I suppose that's what kept Paul & Linda McCartney together for so long.
And Elvis would have listened to you, but it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Couldnt agree more!!(y)(y)
MissyM
10-28-2007, 09:01 AM
I don't like Shelia Ryan. Can't put my finger on it exactly, she just gives me the willies.
I think at first it was just no big deal to date younger ones. Then I think after a while the younger ones simply turned him on more. Hey, given the chance, bet most men are like that.
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