How Do You Feel About Where Elvis Died?

[utmom2008]

I know that Elvis once said that he hoped he died on stage, how would you have felt if that had happened? I have always been sooooo thankful that he died at home, at Graceland, that he loved so much. But, on the other hand, I have always been haunted by the thought of him dying face down in the carpet in the bathroom. I read in "Down At The End Of Lonely Street" that one Dr. now says that he thinks he was dead before he hit the floor...I would like to hope that's how it went down. Wasn't it that book "Elvis" by Albert Goldman(don't waste your time on it) that portrays him clutching the carpet and lying face down in his own vomit?? That visual bothers me so much.....I would like to think that he never knew what hit him. :sad: :king:

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[ksimms2]

I'm reading "Elvis" by Albert Goldman right now - haven't gotten to that part yet - only about 1/2 way through. But I can't really answer that I guess. No I would not have wanted him to die on stage. I would have wanted him around his loved ones so they could atleast see something was wrong and get help to him quicker........I'd rather him not died at all.....I know neither do the rest of you.......

[Getlo]

It doesn't bother me one way or the other. I never think about it. He couldn't have died before hitting the ground as he'd apparently crawled away from the toilet.

But at least he died in the home he loved.

As undignified as it all was, dying on stage would've been too public ... and you'd still be watching the footage on YouTube today.



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[riley]

He died way too young, thats for sure.
And he is missed by all of us, still every day.
But I'm glad that at least he died atGraceland.
It was his beloved home.
Only...

It still bothers me how he died.
Too many unanswered questions and contadictions...

Too many secrets and mysteries surrounding his death.


Also the way he was found shows us , he did not really died a peaceful death.

We still don't know it but I hope he didn't suffer but when I read details about the death scene I think death came not that quick and was maybe a painful one too.

It makes me sad, it still does...

Could have been so different for him. If he had received proper care, more TLC

[riley]

Indeed Getlo, suppose he would have collapsed on scene , the way he collapsed now in his bathroom.

Maybe just maybe he could have been saved then but the footage would have been showed all over again, and we would have seen painful details...

[utmom2008]

He died way too young, thats for sure.
And he is missed by all of us, still every day.
But I'm glad that at least he died atGraceland.
It was his beloved home.
Only...

It still bothers me how he died.
Too many unanswered questions and contadictions...

Too many secrets and mysteries surrounding his death.


Also the way he was found shows us , he did not really died a peaceful death.

We still don't know it but I hope he didn't suffer but when I read details about the death scene I think death came not that quick and was maybe a painful one too.

It makes me sad, it still does...

Could have been so different for him. If he had received proper care, more TLC
I agree...I guess that's what bothers me. I was with my mother-n-law when she passed away, and it was very very peaceful. His death doesn't appear to be so. Thankful for Graceland, yes, but bothered by the rest. To die alone and uneasy is a sad story for a man who was loved by millions.......
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[ksimms2]

It doesn't bother me one way or the other. I never think about it. He couldn't have died before hitting the ground as he'd apparently crawled away from the toilet.

But at least he died in the home he loved.

As undignified as it all was, dying on stage would've been too public ... and you'd still be watching the footage on YouTube today.



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Welcome back!!!!!!! :hug:

[Diane]

I agree, would not have liked him to die on stage. Where he died doesn't bother me personally except that it was used as a joke. I would rather he had just died easily and peacefully in his sleep.

Diane

[utmom2008]

It doesn't bother me one way or the other. I never think about it. He couldn't have died before hitting the ground as he'd apparently crawled away from the toilet.

But at least he died in the home he loved.

As undignified as it all was, dying on stage would've been too public ... and you'd still be watching the footage on YouTube today.



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We have been told he had crawled away, and we have been told he didn't. It seems as though that would be easy to clear up....what all went on in that bathroom? Apparently, Joe was the one that to more or less take control.

[riley]

quote Utmom2008

To die alone and uneasy is a sad story for a man who was loved by millions.......



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quote Diane


that it was used as a joke. I would rather he had just died easily and peacefully in his sleep



you both hit the nail right. Exactly how I feel too

[presley31]

I agree, would not have liked him to die on stage. Where he died doesn't bother me personally except that it was used as a joke. I would rather he had just died easily and peacefully in his sleep.

Diane

agreed diane (y)

[pelytcb]

I agree, would not have liked him to die on stage. Where he died doesn't bother me personally except that it was used as a joke. I would rather he had just died easily and peacefully in his sleep.

Diane


i feel the same way....i just cant stand when people make jokes about Elvis dying in the bathroom....(like Eminem with his stupid video(n)).
I would not liked him to die on stage...that would be terrible!,but I don´t like the way he died and that he was alone and only God and he know what was going throught his head at that moment. I don´t like the fact that he is dead :'( but that´s the way life is....

[marijaep]

How I feel about it? --- Well, I don't think about it much. I try to avoid the fact that he is not here among us anymore :'(
But, when I think about it......you know, I wouldn't like him to die on stage, like Getlo said, we could have watched that on youtube, it would have been public...terrible.
At least he died in Graceland...not in some suit, outside Memphis.
I've tried only once to imagine the scene of him dying on the toilet...and it wasn't very pleasant :'(

I hate when other people talk about his death. They often laugh when they do that, simply because he died in the bathroom! I don't care what happened, he is dead, we can't change that :'(

[KPM]

Would anyone like to die in the bathroom?

[geordie]

i dont think of this too much either ,i think elvis died of a massive heart attack, and he would no nothing about it

never heard the crawling around in the bathroom thing before

[Diane]

No particularly KPM, but didn't Roy Orbison also die in the bathroom? How come no big deal about him too?

Dying in bed while asleep is what I would wish for any decent person...don't care about the rest I'm afraid.


Diane

[JDD]

A lot of people die in the bathroom, you're at home you don't feel well its the first place a lot of people go.

[utmom2008]

i dont think of this too much either ,i think elvis died of a massive heart attack, and he would no nothing about it

never heard the crawling around in the bathroom thing before
there has been alot written about how he landed, how far he crawled, did he throw up or didn"t he? There is a Doc quoted near the end of "Down At The End Of Lonely Street" that says he was dead before he hit the floor. I think it was Albert Goldman that conveys the imagine of his face being in the carpet, having crawled a little ways before dying while clutching the carpet....horrible visuals:sad::sad:

[utmom2008]

No particularly KPM, but didn't Roy Orbison also die in the bathroom? How come no big deal about him too?

Dying in bed while asleep is what I would wish for any decent person...don't care about the rest I'm afraid.


Diane
I'm with you Diane(y)

[presley31]

A lot of people die in the bathroom, you're at home you don't feel well its the first place a lot of people go.

Good point JDD(y)

[cameron]

It still bothers me how he died.
Too many unanswered questions and contadictions...
Too many secrets and mysteries surrounding his death.



This bothers me; because there was no investigation.
But, at home was best, IMO.

[Diane]

Fantastic point JDD! (y) I think all this carpet crawling deal started with Albert Goldman and got embellished even more along the way. Certainly not the best room to die in but in no way does it demean the person it happens to.

Diane

[Lisarose]

A lot of people die in the bathroom, you're at home you don't feel well its the first place a lot of people go.

Exactly! And let us not forget the bathroom in Elvis' home was no doubt like the family room in my home - spacious, luxurious, comforting!
My only thought about dying on stage - sure it's very public & we'd be seeing it Over & Over & Over. . ..But, if he had gotten sick on stage, he'd have been helped immediately, by the hotel personnel or show doctors or doctors, nurses that may have been in the audience. At Graceland, he'd been down for quite a while before someone thought to check on him. :'(


at least he died in the home he loved.
As undignified as it all was, dying on stage would've been too public ... and you'd still be watching the footage on YouTube today.
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Hi, Getlo, welcome back! :D

[GirlHappy19]

I don't think it makes a diference where we drop dead,but in Elvis case I am happy that it was in Graceland and not in some cold hotel room.Graceland was home---a place where he went to rest--to be with family and friends.
I am glad it was not on stage,because of the media.We would problably had to see him dying right there on stage.No God!:'(

[utmom2008]

Fantastic point JDD! (y) I think all this carpet crawling deal started with Albert Goldman and got embellished even more along the way. Certainly not the best room to die in but in no way does it demean the person it happens to.

Diane
You are probably right Diane! Albert Goldman obviously embellished some other things...

[Gary1]

Would anyone like to die in the bathroom?Most people can't help being where they are when the end comes.

[utmom2008]

Most people can't help being where they are when the end comes.
We need to all be very thankful that it was Graceland.....another 12 to 24 hours and it would have been an entirely different situation.

[Getlo]

This bothers me; because there was no investigation.

So, there was no investigation into Elvis' death?? :doh::lmfao:

[Tony Trout]

We need to all be very thankful that it was Graceland.....another 12 to 24 hours and it would have been an entirely different situation.

Maybe...maybe not...no one knows when they're going to die and Elvis certainly had no clue whatsoever that he was going to leave this world on August 16, 1977,,,but I will say this: I, like everyone else, am thankful that he did pass away at Graceland and not on the road--although I've read several books that state that had that, in fact, happened that there was a plan that had been put into place if Elvis had died on the road so he could be brought back to Memphis.

The Goldman book (if you can call it that) just absolutely makes me sick to read...

I read it once and put it away....

[KPM]

Most people can't help being where they are when the end comes.
Totally agree-but if I had a choice its not the top of the list;)

[goodelvisgirl]

well i think the fact that he was at home was a good thing but at the same time alot of jokes were made and many nasty people have made a fool of elvis for diying on the toilet but i try not ot think about how cos i wouldn't want ot think of elvis haveing a painfull slow death crawling along the carpet vomiting and all that

[KPM]

well i think the fact that he was at home was a good thing but at the same time alot of jokes were made and many nasty people have made a fool of elvis for diying on the toilet but i try not ot think about how cos i wouldn't want ot think of elvis haveing a painfull slow death crawling along the carpet vomiting and all that
Theres no way to know how slow he died, but even a few minutes of acute heart pain is too much- trust me.

[Suzan]

Once again not having read the responses, here I go w/my 2 cents...

I don't think it was the optimum place to die, but @ least he died at home, a home he loved very much.
I have heard that it was not a quick death, but a slow painful one.:( For that I am very sad...he suffered so much as it was to think his last moments were filled w/pain breaks my heart.
I do not like that his dying in the bathroom is the brunt of many a joke.
I am saddened that he had to die so young at all, irregardless where it took place. Thank God it wasn't done in public.

[JerryNodak]

Death doesn't ask where, when, how you want to die. When your number's up the grim reaper just comes calling.

Elvis died in his bathroom. Same thing happened to an uncle of mine. Death makes no distinctions.

I don't think about Elvis' death. I try to celebrate his life, everyday.

[utmom2008]

Maybe...maybe not...no one knows when they're going to die and Elvis certainly had no clue whatsoever that he was going to leave this world on August 16, 1977,,,but I will say this: I, like everyone else, am thankful that he did pass away at Graceland and not on the road--although I've read several books that state that had that, in fact, happened that there was a plan that had been put into place if Elvis had died on the road so he could be brought back to Memphis.

The Goldman book (if you can call it that) just absolutely makes me sick to read...

I read it once and put it away....
I understand about the Goldman book. I don't know why in the world I haven't used it to start a good fire. What was Goldman's deal? Why did he work so hard to portray Elvis in such a negative light?

[Tony Trout]

I understand about the Goldman book. I don't know why in the world I haven't used it to start a good fire. What was Goldman's deal? Why did he work so hard to portray Elvis in such a negative light?


Because somewhere between 1969-1977 (and I'm only guessing here) Goldman somehow developed some sort of hatred for Elvis....and showed it with that "fire-starter" of a book...even though he apparently wrote a very glowing review of one of Elvis's shows in Las Vegas, NV in 1970) some of the stuff he wrote about (and this applies to anyone who has written/will write a book 'bout Elvis) should have been/should be kept private.

[torpor97]

What was the title of Goldmans book? I wish Joe didnt feel the need to tell where Elvis died, but Im sure he had no choice. There were to many people there to keep it secret.

[utmom2008]

What was the title of Goldmans book? I wish Joe didnt feel the need to tell where Elvis died, but Im sure he had no choice. There were to many people there to keep it secret.
The book is simply titled "Elvis" by Albert Goldman. It's a lengthy book...very vile.

[utmom2008]

Because somewhere between 1969-1977 (and I'm only guessing here) Goldman somehow developed some sort of hatred for Elvis....and showed it with that "fire-starter" of a book...even though he apparently wrote a very glowing review of one of Elvis's shows in Las Vegas, NV in 1970) some of the stuff he wrote about (and this applies to anyone who has written/will write a book 'bout Elvis) should have been/should be kept private.
Thanks for the info Tony...that's pretty much what I was thinking. I remember reading it and at some point thinking "OMG..this guy really has it in for Elvis". It truly is a fire-starter.

[Getlo]

What was Goldman's deal? Why did he work so hard to portray Elvis in such a negative light?

Take away the obvious disdain Goldman had for Elvis (and for Southerners in general) and the often vicious tone of his langiage, there is more truth in Elvis than many fans care to admit.

It is very well written (hatred notwithstanding) and there is more truth in it than many other so-called "authoritative" biographies out there. I'd rather read it than, for example, Charlie Hodge's whitewash Me'n'Elvis. (n) Or Wanda June Hill's fantasies. :lol:(n)

Many fans condemned Goldman's book (and still do) without actually having read the bloody thing!

[The King's Queen]

Once again not having read the responses, here I go w/my 2 cents...

I don't think it was the optimum place to die, but @ least he died at home, a home he loved very much.
I have heard that it was not a quick death, but a slow painful one.:( For that I am very sad...he suffered so much as it was to think his last moments were filled w/pain breaks my heart.
I do not like that his dying in the bathroom is the brunt of many a joke.
I am saddened that he had to die so young at all, irregardless where it took place. Thank God it wasn't done in public.

Very well said Suzan! :notworthy I too find it difficult to accept that he had to die in such a way, but not just because he was Elvis, but because he was a human who gave so much to so many. Regardless of his bad habits, or his shortcomings, he was a good hearted man with a lot of compassion for others. I wish that, as Diane said, he had drifted away peacefully in his sleep...that would have been a better way. He left far too soon. I find it ironic that in as much as he hated being alone, he spent his last moments that way. But then again, we all die alone anyway. No matter how many people are standing at our bedside, we still leave this world totally alone....

[Getlo]

The irony of it all is that, in terms of fan numbers and popularity, dying was the best thing that ever happened to Elvis!

Were he still with us, he would not be anywhere near as popular as he is now, nor would he be such a pop culture phenomenon. Then, if he were to drop dead soon, the popularity would increase.

There was an almost unimaginable surge in fan numbers around 1977-80, which has never really died off.

As someone quipped when Elvis did die: "Good career move".

[The King's Queen]

The irony of it all is that, in terms of fan numbers and popularity, dying was the best thing that ever happened to Elvis!

Were he still with us, he would not be anywhere near as popular as he is now, nor would he be such a pop culture phenomenon. Then, if he were to drop dead soon, the popularity would increase.

There was an almost unimaginable surge in fan numbers around 1977-80, which has never really died off.

As someone quipped when Elvis did die: "Good career move".

I think that you must have meant that Elvis dying was the best thing that ever happened to Priscilla....because Elvis could not reap any benefit from his increased popularity...unlike she has. ;) :blink:

[utmom2008]

Take away the obvious disdain Goldman had for Elvis (and for Southerners in general) and the often vicious tone of his langiage, there is more truth in Elvis than many fans care to admit.

It is very well written (hatred notwithstanding) and there is more truth in it than many other so-called "authoritative" biographies out there. I'd rather read it than, for example, Charlie Hodge's whitewash Me'n'Elvis. (n) Or Wanda June Hill's fantasies. :lol:(n)

Many fans condemned Goldman's book (and still do) without actually having read the bloody thing!
I thought that Goldman probably had no love for those of us from the South. I can honestly say that I read the thing cover to cover, but I did wonder if everyone had worked their way through it. As you well know, it's not a small book. I've never read either of the books that you mention because I assumed they were probably alot of fluff. You are right though, Goldman writes with a vicious tone....

[utmom2008]

The irony of it all is that, in terms of fan numbers and popularity, dying was the best thing that ever happened to Elvis!

Were he still with us, he would not be anywhere near as popular as he is now, nor would he be such a pop culture phenomenon. Then, if he were to drop dead soon, the popularity would increase.

There was an almost unimaginable surge in fan numbers around 1977-80, which has never really died off.

As someone quipped when Elvis did die: "Good career move".
Makes me think of what Colonel Parker said when Elvis died_---_"Elvis didn't die, his body did. Elvis will live 4-ever".

[utmom2008]

The irony of it all is that, in terms of fan numbers and popularity, dying was the best thing that ever happened to Elvis!

Were he still with us, he would not be anywhere near as popular as he is now, nor would he be such a pop culture phenomenon. Then, if he were to drop dead soon, the popularity would increase.

There was an almost unimaginable surge in fan numbers around 1977-80, which has never really died off.

As someone quipped when Elvis did die: "Good career move".
Speaking of the surge in fans......there is a woman here in this town who didn't even like Elvis before he died. Now...she almost has an obsession with him, decorated her office walls and ceiling, has the 6 ft. cardboard Elvis and goes around literally spouting "Elvis Facts". I never have understood the people that reacted that way:hmm:

[TC_of_EAP]

In reply to the last responses -disregarding the original thread, which I cannot answer to as it's way too painful to me (still !), me too I remember that awful increase of 'young Elvis fans' in fall 1977 ! I was amazed and disgusted at the same time. I was hoping that it's been a passing thing for most of these people, but throughout the years I saw that more people came flocking to him. I remember some I knew I questioned and they admitted that they even didn't like Elvis during his lifetime.
What's their drive ? Folks, can someone explain me ??? Perhaps we have an example on this forum who can light my lantern ? (no hard feelings, I just want to understand !)

The good news here, still is that we keep Elvis' memories alive, never forget him and yes, celebrate his life every single day !!!!!!!

[SleepyJack]

What I think is so sad is that thirty years later people are still talking about where Elvis died and the events surrounding it......even in death there was no privacy for the man.I don`t want to know the details...I don`t want to hear it examined like an episode of CSI...and I couldn`t give a flying squirrel-turd for anything Albert Goldman had to say.

[ksimms2]

I thought that Goldman probably had no love for those of us from the South. I can honestly say that I read the thing cover to cover, but I did wonder if everyone had worked their way through it. As you well know, it's not a small book. I've never read either of the books that you mention because I assumed they were probably alot of fluff. You are right though, Goldman writes with a vicious tone....

you are right about that, he did not like southerners at all, he poked fun and even the way he wrote how "we" talk....he pisses me off! I'm not even half way through yet and I find most of it dreadfully boring. But I shall tredge on and hopefully get to some interesting stuff. I'm not really into the contracts, etc. in Elvis career. I want to hear about him personally....his shows, etc.

[KPM]

The irony of it all is that, in terms of fan numbers and popularity, dying was the best thing that ever happened to Elvis!

Were he still with us, he would not be anywhere near as popular as he is now, nor would he be such a pop culture phenomenon. Then, if he were to drop dead soon, the popularity would increase.

There was an almost unimaginable surge in fan numbers around 1977-80, which has never really died off.

As someone quipped when Elvis did die: "Good career move".
Had he made a complete turn around and made some big changes instead of dying-who knows what might have happened. But to become a "pop cultural phenomenon" you are either the latest hottest thing with charisma-or you once were and then you die and you are again.

[elvisspankme]

i'm glad that he died at home with his family around not on stage.
Ihave also heard that when they found him he had almost biten his tounge off
so i figure that it was probley pretty painful and if i was ginger i would have taken better care of him like linda.
i love elvis with all my heart.:'(:king:

[utmom2008]

Had he made a complete turn around and made some big changes instead of dying-who knows what might have happened. But to become a "pop cultural phenomenon" you are either the latest hottest thing with charisma-or you once were and then you die and you are again.
You are right about that KPM. But, I would NOT want Elvis to have ended up on "Dancing With The Stars" like Wayne Newton(n)

[Suzan]

Very well said Suzan! :notworthy I too find it difficult to accept that he had to die in such a way, but not just because he was Elvis, but because he was a human who gave so much to so many. Regardless of his bad habits, or his shortcomings, he was a good hearted man with a lot of compassion for others. I wish that, as Diane said, he had drifted away peacefully in his sleep...that would have been a better way. He left far too soon. I find it ironic that in as much as he hated being alone, he spent his last moments that way. But then again, we all die alone anyway. No matter how many people are standing at our bedside, we still leave this world totally alone....

Well said, he was all those things and so much more.

I read Goldman's book, it's a piece of ..... garbage in my opinion.

I'd rather have the man alive then an icon. I think his fans would still be fans, and we don't know if his popularity w/the younger fans would be here or not.
Whomever made that quip was very insensitive and I hope the same comes to him when it's his time...you get as good as you give.
I'm amazed that some call themselves fans when it is quite obvious that that is far from the case, but hey maybe they want to be part of a crowd or that is what floats their boat and gets them thru their day.

[Memory]

I wouldn t have wanted him to die on stage.Think of all the the fans,Panic would erupt.
A dangerous situation for all the visiter on stage.It isn t importent in with room he pass
away,he died in his Graceland and this is the best possibility.Vernon,Patsy,Lisa,Grandma,
and Charlie were near.:'(

[SweetCaroline]

The book is simply titled "Elvis" by Albert Goldman. It's a lengthy book...very vile.


Goldman's book is good for starting winter fires in the fireplace! :angry::angry::angry:

[Unchained Melody]

It doesn't bother me one way or the other. I never think about it. He couldn't have died before hitting the ground as he'd apparently crawled away from the toilet.

But at least he died in the home he loved.

As undignified as it all was, dying on stage would've been too public ... and you'd still be watching the footage on YouTube today.



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Same here Getlo. We dont get to choose when and where we want to die at. I obviously like you said knew something was happening when he hit the floor and attempted to crawl a few feet but its nothing i like to think about..:supriced:

[Unchained Melody]

I agree...I guess that's what bothers me. I was with my mother-n-law when she passed away, and it was very very peaceful. His death doesn't appear to be so. Thankful for Graceland, yes, but bothered by the rest. To die alone and uneasy is a sad story for a man who was loved by millions.......
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Agreed rossie it is said. No one should have to die like that alone..but i sure am glad it didn't happen onstage like Getlo said thats too public.

[Unchained Melody]

i feel the same way....i just cant stand when people make jokes about Elvis dying in the bathroom....(like Eminem with his stupid video(n)).

That pissed me off to the extreme. as does people saying Oh Elvis didn't he die on the crapper. Another term i want to use like E did I wanted to pull there ** tongues out by the roots :cursing:

[Unchained Melody]

Would anyone like to die in the bathroom?

Exactly Ken, obvious answer - NO!

[Unchained Melody]

there has been alot written about how he landed, how far he crawled, did he throw up or didn"t he? There is a Doc quoted near the end of "Down At The End Of Lonely Street" that says he was dead before he hit the floor. I think it was Albert Goldman that conveys the imagine of his face being in the carpet, having crawled a little ways before dying while clutching the carpet....horrible visuals:sad::sad:

Albert Goldmen is trash a little worm that had to make up new stories to sell his book !:mad:

[Unchained Melody]

I don't think about Elvis' death. I try to celebrate his life, everyday.

Words of gospel right there, why can't fans do the same instead of thinking about Elvis' last seconds on earth and the pain he was in :( He's gone now, and atleast we know he's at peace and the man did his best, he died, let's cut him a break like many have said its not like he said ok im going to go to the bathroom and thats where im going to go out so it can be made into a joke years later by people who know nothing a-tall about the man and or his music !!! :mad:

[Unchained Melody]

Because somewhere between 1969-1977 (and I'm only guessing here) Goldman somehow developed some sort of hatred for Elvis....and showed it with that "fire-starter" of a book...even though he apparently wrote a very glowing review of one of Elvis's shows in Las Vegas, NV in 1970) some of the stuff he wrote about (and this applies to anyone who has written/will write a book 'bout Elvis) should have been/should be kept private.

pretty sure he saw elvis during the jan/feb engagement of 1970:hmm:

[Unchained Melody]

You are right about that KPM. But, I would NOT want Elvis to have ended up on "Dancing With The Stars" like Wayne Newton(n)

Neither would I but who cares if he wouldve been less popular had he lived. I think I would rather choose to have Elvis still with us and less popular than dead and gone and still big.:hmm:

[SeeSeeRider777]

I just saw this thread. Well, I say that if he would have died in his sleep that would have been better and that would have avoided all the cruel "king died on the throne jokes". Well it is most likely true that he was laying in his own vomit on the floor because usually when you have a major heartattack that is what happens. The person throws up. Why I dont know. My grandmother died of a massive heartattack and we found her on the floor in her own vomit. I know first hand that is true. Miss that lady. Anyways yes we all know Elvis died but lets focus on the life and legend of Elvis Aron Presley and never forget him.

[Unchained Melody]

I just saw this thread. Well, I say that if he would have died in his sleep that would have been better and that would have avoided all the cruel "king died on the throne jokes". Well it is most likely true that he was laying in his own vomit on the floor because usually when you have a major heartattack that is what happens. The person throws up. Why I dont know. My grandmother died of a massive heartattack and we found her on the floor in her own vomit. I know first hand that is true. Miss that lady. Anyways yes we all know Elvis died but lets focus on the life and legend of Elvis Aron Presley and never forget him.

Elvis was not found lying in his own vomit was he ?:hmm:

[SeeSeeRider777]

Elvis was not found lying in his own vomit was he ?:hmm:

I dont know. The question was raised in the first post.

[Unchained Melody]

I dont know. The question was raised in the first post.

Hopefully someone can answer that for me...Its news to me as I'm just now starting careless love.:hmm:

[WHITETIGERMAN]

It pains me to know he's not here among us.......you all are right about him on stage.The footage would be all over youtube and elsewhere.I'm glad he was at home and not on the road.....I hate thinking about him passing.I try not to think about that except on the anniversary of August 16. I have heard about him posssibly crawling after hitting the floor and about the vomit as well.It's a touchy subject...and I'm leaving it there.I Love Elvis Presley......God rest his soul.

[Unchained Melody]

It pains me to know he's not here among us.......you all are right about him on stage.The footage would be all over youtube and elsewhere.I'm glad he was at home and not on the road.....I hate thinking about him passing.I try not to think about that except on the anniversary of August 16. I have heard about him posssibly crawling after hitting the floor and about the vomit as well.It's a touchy subject...and I'm leaving it there.I Love Elvis Presley......God rest his soul.

They did say he attempted to crawl a few feet when he fell but then I guess thats when he collasped on the carpet....:'(

[utmom2008]

Hopefully someone can answer that for me...Its news to me as I'm just now starting careless love.:hmm:

YES...the majority of the books all say he was lying in his own vomit. As Joe said...this is what happens when a person has a heart attack.:blink::blink::blink:

[utmom2008]

I just saw this thread.


I started this thread way back in October...funny that it has resurfaced.:blink::hmm:

[WHITETIGERMAN]

Agreed....that's what has really been mentioned is that in fact he did crawl a few feet.
I hate to have anyone be in that position......but we can't choose how the GOOD LORD
will call us away.

[Unchained Melody]

Well thanks for that info Rossie, heartbreaking.:'(

[Unchained Melody]

I started this thread way back in October...funny that it has resurfaced.:blink::hmm:

Well I just seen it for the first time aswell.:blush:

[WHITETIGERMAN]

This my first time seeing this as well.

[utmom2008]

Well I just seen it for the first time aswell.:blush:


This my first time seeing this as well.

This was either my 1st thread or my 2nd thread that I started after joining TCB.:blush::blink:

[Unchained Melody]

This was either my 1st thread or my 2nd thread that I started after joining TCB.:blush::blink:

Memories, press between the pages of my mind..memories sweeten through the ages just like wine:blush::P

[Elvisgirl]

i'm sure if he had died somewhere else, there would still have been jokes about where/how he died

[Getlo]

Elvis Presley died while reading a magazine about astrology relating to sexual positions, while on the crapper.

He had a heart attack, tried to crawl to the other intercom across the room as the one near the toilet malfunctioned, and died halfway there.

He died with his PJs down around his ankles, teeth through his tongue, a bloated mess.

That's the real deal.

It makes no difference to me one way or the other. It was an undignified, lonely, revolting way for anyone to go, let alone the King of Rock'n'Roll.

But many fans need to stop being so precious about how Elvis died, and stop hiding from the truth.

I don't feel anything about how and where Elvis died. It's just a fact, and the final part to the story.

If someone asks me how he died, I'll tell them. Why sugarcoat or whitewash it?

[shelley.m.]

I agree, would not have liked him to die on stage. Where he died doesn't bother me personally except that it was used as a joke. I would rather he had just died easily and peacefully in his sleep.

Diane

I'm still tired of hearing that Elvis died on the "john." Even to this day,it still makes me mad! Thank God he didn't die on the road like most performers.Like Buddy Holly,Eddie Cochran or Ricky Nelson did.He passed away at his beloved Graceland.

[Getlo]

I'm still tired of hearing that Elvis died on the "john."

He virtually did.

He died a few feet from the crapper after crawling a little way.

Accept it.

On the john, or a few feet away ... it's the same thing.

[Teddy]

Irrespective of the proximity of the 'john', I think people who love Elvis should take some comfort from the fact that he died in his bathroom.

Since he chose to fill his home 24/7 with friends and various staff and never slept alone, that upstairs bathroom represented the one room in the whole world which afforded him real peace and privacy.
We can talk about the indignity of the scene when he was discovered, but there's no other room which would have served as a better venue for his terminal moment. If we assume that the cause and nature of his death was inevitable, surely he would have hated an audience for that and this maybe turned out for the best.

And he was at home.

Also, there's little point or comfort to be gained from speculating that he would have survived if Ginger had been awake or Linda was with him at the time etc. It sounds like the damage was done, so we should be grateful that he had a moment's peace after a whirlwind of a life.

[ehollier]

Irrespective of the proximity of the 'john', I think people who love Elvis should take some comfort from the fact that he died in his bathroom.

Since he chose to fill his home 24/7 with friends and various staff and never slept alone, that upstairs bathroom represented the one room in the whole world which afforded him real peace and privacy.
We can talk about the indignity of the scene when he was discovered, but there's no other room which would have served as a better venue for his terminal moment. If we assume that the cause and nature of his death was inevitable, surely he would have hated an audience for that and this maybe turned out for the best.....

I couldn't have said it better myself, Teddy. Thanks for putting it into perspective. :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[4THEHEART]

as old as the concept of life,we've learned from watching it there's still nothing we could prepare a stylish death for ourselves, even with suicides, things can go wrong,actually how we stop being alive is not important comparing the life and death itself..afterall,we must find a way somehow to pass away..
as for Elvis,considering he wasn'T shot or killed in an accident and wasn't die on stage, which I'm sure he wouldn't prefered to shock his audience and spoil the show,there's no meaning to focuse in which room he died..this is rather immature to try to go somewhere from someone's way of dying,as that Goldman sicko did.such people try hard to find a way for a revenge of others importance at least by using their mortality..how pathetic..I can only hope after a short physical pain it was a great experince that he enjoyed( sounds weird I know then it's me again)..being a person who believe in continuing existence(not religion related),I'd like to be awake during my passing and not miss a moment of it..
again it never bothers me and it's not my point where he died or what he was reading but it sounds too funny when peple who weren't there talks in exact words as if they know it all ..in such situations,we'd better be ready to learn that we don't know nothing,when we're least expecting..;)
as for underestimating Elvis's career in the future had he lived,well,just take a look how dull and miserable music world today and try to imagine how it would be with Elvis..

[john carpenter]

I thought that Goldman probably had no love for those of us from the South. I can honestly say that I read the thing cover to cover, but I did wonder if everyone had worked their way through it. As you well know, it's not a small book. I've never read either of the books that you mention because I assumed they were probably alot of fluff. You are right though, Goldman writes with a vicious tone....I agree Rosanne. Albert Goldman think Southerners (like us) are snaggle tooth, cousin marrying,retards.. UNTRUE. But back to topic..I hate the cruel jokes about Elvis dying in the bathroom. I understand why Joe said Elvis was found in the bed (original statement) As i,ve said "you can't pick where you die". I read that Judy Garland died in the bathroom too! I don,t know if she was on the toilet? I read Goldmans book and it is one of the most vile books ever writting on Elvis. Everyone at TCB should get together and have a big bon-fire and get rid of the piece of crap (the book) not Albert Goldman..he's dead!:lmfao:

[Teddy]

Elvis Presley died while reading a magazine about astrology relating to sexual positions, while on the crapper.


So is it all nonsense about him reading A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus?
I wouldn't have thought a book such as the one you describe would be of any use to a man who'd been incapable of intercourse for years.
It seems that even when he was capable he couldn't be bothered!

[utmom2008]

So is it all nonsense about him reading A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus?
I wouldn't have thought a book such as the one you describe would be of any use to a man who'd been incapable of intercourse for years.
It seems that even when he was capable he couldn't be bothered!

You have got to be kidding???? Men NEVER get tired of looking and thinking about it.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Teddy]

You have got to be kidding???? Men NEVER get tired of looking and thinking about it.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Fair enough, I guess that's true. :blush:

But was he really reading a naughty book instead of the Turin Shroud one we've been led to believe? I'm not disparaging the suggestion- I'm learning something here!

[KPM]

The idea of where he died is a perfect example of deciding how you can shape a story- same facts just different adjectives used which convey a different image. If you want it to appear an undignified thing-you pick those type adjectives to describe the situation adjectives which may be street wise but lact tact. I still do not see what is wrong in using tact when writing or speaking on any subject-the facts are still there-but without the sensationalism.

[utmom2008]

Elvis Presley died while reading a magazine about astrology relating to sexual positions, while on the crapper.

Where was the book found?


He had a heart attack, tried to crawl to the other intercom across the room as the one near the toilet malfunctioned, and died halfway there.

He died with his PJs down around his ankles, teeth through his tongue, a bloated mess.

Is it a "for sure" that the 1st intercom was on the blink? Also...I have read so many different versions about his tongue. Bit down on his tongue OR bit through it?




It was an undignified, lonely, revolting way for anyone to go, let alone the King of Rock'n'Roll.
And THAT is the understatement of the of the year.:blush::blush:

[utmom2008]

Fair enough, I guess that's true. :blush:

But was he really reading a naughty book instead of the Turin Shroud one we've been led to believe? I'm not disparaging the suggestion- I'm learning something here!

Elvis did read the Bible and lots of spiritual books...but the truth is he was reading the "sexual positions" book when he died. Who knows?? As much as Elvis believed in meds, he was probably waiting for the day when Dr. Nick would introduce him to a litte blue pill.....Viagra.;):P:lol:

[utmom2008]

The idea of where he died is a perfect example of deciding how you can shape a story- same facts just different adjectives used which convey a different image. If you want it to appear an undignified thing-you pick those type adjectives to describe the situation adjectives which may be street wise but lact tact. I still do not see what is wrong in using tact when writing or speaking on any subject-the facts are still there-but without the sensationalism.

Great point Ken!:notworthy(y)

[john carpenter]

So is it all nonsense about him reading A Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus?
I wouldn't have thought a book such as the one you describe would be of any use to a man who'd been incapable of intercourse for years.
It seems that even when he was capable he couldn't be bothered!So, Teddy, you believe Elvis was "Flogging the Snake"? Or was he just using the bathroom to relieve himself?I don't care if he was reading Mad magazine..it's stiill a big joke to *****s " Your idol died on the crapper"!(n)

[utmom2008]

So, Teddy, you believe Elvis was "Flogging the Snake"?

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[KPM]

A few other famous people who died in the bathroom include Catherine the Great, film producer Don Simpson, writer Evelyn Waugh, actress Vivian Leigh, comedian Lenny Bruce, singer Jim Morisson, actor Robert Pastorelli, popcorn king Orville Redenbacker,and actor Albert Dekker.

[presley31]

i'am glad that when elvis passed he was not in front of thousands of people but in his home in his private area and doesn't matter to me what he was reading or doing at the time.

[celine]

A few months ago I read the following on the internet (I don't remember anymore where, put I printed it out so now I am able to type it up for you and I don't know if it is true). It is sort of a timeline of events from August 16th. Here are some extracts:

9:30am - 9:45am: In the bathroom Elvis takes the packs of medication. There may have been a small period of time between taking them, but it is most likely that Elvis took the packs at the same time or within a very short time span. The effect was to get him to sleep and Elvis would have known this, so he didn't want to fall asleep after the first pack and then not use the others. Elvis sat upon his commode and opened the book ( ... it doesn't say which one ;))
The medication now started to work inside Elvis.

9:45am - 9:55am: Though Elvis was unware, his body now started to die. The heart had stopped, arrested by the extreme increase in the beats it had produced. Any last remaining air in Elvis' lungs would no longer get into his blood stream and the brain slowly closed itself down without it.
One of the first signs for Elvis would have been similar to food poisoning in that his stomach would be upset. This may have been the reason he decided to sit upon his commode ( ... I always thought it was the toilet ...). The drugs reacted quickly and Elvis' heart began beating extremely fast, a searing pain in his chest caused him to lean forward and try to stand up. Taking two, maybe three short steps forward, he gradually dropped to his knees, his chest paralysed by the heart attack, then he passed into unconsciousness. With one last involuntary body action Elvis vomited, the stomach releasing what it could of the poisons and leaving his tongue protruding from his mouth.

2:25pm - 2:30pm: As Joe turned Elvis over onto his back, he heard the air which had been trapped in Elvis' lungs exhale itself creating the impression that Elvis may still have been breating. But the knees stayed in the place as if Elvis were trying to touch his chin with them. This along with the appearance of Elvis' face, with his tongue partly protruding from his mouth and with his teeth set into the tongue, the blood filled head giving the blue purple complexion and the eyes totally blood shot made Joe leap for the phone.

And so on and so on. I better stop now before those pictures give me bad dreams tonight ...

Just thought you might wanna hear that.

[celine]

i'am glad that when elvis passed he was not in front of thousands of people but in his home in his private area and doesn't matter to me what he was reading or doing at the time.

Agree! (y) I fell the same!

[franny]

i'am glad that when elvis passed he was not in front of thousands of people but in his home in his private area and doesn't matter to me what he was reading or doing at the time.

I agree, Jen. (y)
Also, to me it's more upsetting when he died, age 42...:'(
He had so much more life to live!

franny

[ehollier]

You have got to be kidding???? Men NEVER get tired of looking and thinking about it.:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Did it ever occur to you that THIS is the very reason that we have never had a lasting plan for world peace??? Men are too busy thinking about sex!!!! **hubs just rolls his eyes**

[KPM]

A few months ago I read the following on the internet (I don't remember anymore where, put I printed it out so now I am able to type it up for you and I don't know if it is true). It is sort of a timeline of events from August 16th. Here are some extracts:

9:30am - 9:45am: In the bathroom Elvis takes the packs of medication. There may have been a small period of time between taking them, but it is most likely that Elvis took the packs at the same time or within a very short time span. The effect was to get him to sleep and Elvis would have known this, so he didn't want to fall asleep after the first pack and then not use the others. Elvis sat upon his commode and opened the book ( ... it doesn't say which one ;))
The medication now started to work inside Elvis.

9:45am - 9:55am: Though Elvis was unware, his body now started to die. The heart had stopped, arrested by the extreme increase in the beats it had produced. Any last remaining air in Elvis' lungs would no longer get into his blood stream and the brain slowly closed itself down without it.
One of the first signs for Elvis would have been similar to food poisoning in that his stomach would be upset. This may have been the reason he decided to sit upon his commode ( ... I always thought it was the toilet ...). The drugs reacted quickly and Elvis' heart began beating extremely fast, a searing pain in his chest caused him to lean forward and try to stand up. Taking two, maybe three short steps forward, he gradually dropped to his knees, his chest paralysed by the heart attack, then he passed into unconsciousness. With one last involuntary body action Elvis vomited, the stomach releasing what it could of the poisons and leaving his tongue protruding from his mouth.

2:25pm - 2:30pm: As Joe turned Elvis over onto his back, he heard the air which had been trapped in Elvis' lungs exhale itself creating the impression that Elvis may still have been breating. But the knees stayed in the place as if Elvis were trying to touch his chin with them. This along with the appearance of Elvis' face, with his tongue partly protruding from his mouth and with his teeth set into the tongue, the blood filled head giving the blue purple complexion and the eyes totally blood shot made Joe leap for the phone.

And so on and so on. I better stop now before those pictures give me bad dreams tonight ...

Just thought you might wanna hear that.
This is speculation on the authors part obviously.
The type of downer medications in Elvis's system would not have produced rapid heartbeats-they would have slowed his heart, he would have slipped into a deep coma like sleep and then his heart just would have slowly stopped beating.
His heart did not stop slowly- he had a violent attack while awake.
I have posted this before-but I think it bears repeating:
In 1994, the autopsy into Presley's death was re-opened. Coroner Dr. Joseph Davis declared: "There is nothing in any of the data that supports a death from drugs [i.e. drug overdose]. In fact, everything points to a sudden, violent heart attack."[186] However, there is little doubt that long-term drug abuse caused his premature death.[238]

[TCBGIRL]

I know that Elvis once said that he hoped he died on stage, how would you have felt if that had happened? I have always been sooooo thankful that he died at home, at Graceland, that he loved so much. But, on the other hand, I have always been haunted by the thought of him dying face down in the carpet in the bathroom. I read in "Down At The End Of Lonely Street" that one Dr. now says that he thinks he was dead before he hit the floor...I would like to hope that's how it went down. Wasn't it that book "Elvis" by Albert Goldman(don't waste your time on it) that portrays him clutching the carpet and lying face down in his own vomit?? That visual bothers me so much.....I would like to think that he never knew what hit him. :sad: :king:

www.youtube.com/utmom2008

I agree with you..i thibk about him and that moment too.

[elvia7]

Maybe I tell you somethg very surprising - sorry :(
Whe in 16 08 1977 I hear, from RADIO LUKSEMURG, I thik - now our beloved FRIEND
- rest :((((.
Maybe it's difficult to understand, but that I feel from now!

[Teddy]

So, Teddy, you believe Elvis was "Flogging the Snake"? Or was he just using the bathroom to relieve himself?I don't care if he was reading Mad magazine..it's stiill a big joke to *****s " Your idol died on the crapper"!(n)
No offense, but I think you're missing what I'm saying here if you just landed on that one post.
I don't like that stuff either.

[Teddy]

And seriously, "Flogging the snake"??!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

And seriously, "Flogging the snake"??!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Teddy]

[B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Elvis did read the Bible and lots of spiritual books...but the truth is he was reading the "sexual positions" book when he died.
Do any sources reveal this juicy info other than Goldman's?

[shelley.m.]

He virtually did.

He died a few feet from the crapper after crawling a little way.

Accept it.

On the john, or a few feet away ... it's the same thing.

I know Elvis died in the bathroom,but do most people have to make a joke about it.That's what I don't like.

[Getlo]

I know Elvis died in the bathroom,but do most people have to make a joke about it.That's what I don't like.

Comedy = tragedy + time.

In other words, every subject is worthy of a joke after a suitable amount of time has passed ... even things like 9/11, Princess Diana, space shuttle disasters ... and Elvis' death on/near the crapper.

These things aren't funny in and of themselves, obviously, but dark humour is how we eventually deal with them and compartmentalise them for later in life.

You need to get a thicker skin when it comes to jokes about fat, druggy Elvis dying whilst trying to s**t. Otherwise, you'll just explode. It doesn't matter how or where he died.

And teddy: the astrological sex position magazine wasn't porn or a "naughty book" as you call it. I forget the title right now, there was another thread about it months ago. But at the death scene, both this and the Turin book were there. The magazine was removed by person/s unknown for fear it would put Elvis in a bad light.

[Teddy]

And teddy: the astrological sex position magazine wasn't porn or a "naughty book" as you call it. I forget the title right now, there was another thread about it months ago. But at the death scene, both this and the Turin book were there. The magazine was removed by person/s unknown for fear it would put Elvis in a bad light.

I believe it was called Sex and Psychic Energy.
While this is obviously completely plausible, I'm just curious to know which sources have resulted in it being the 'party line' here.

I remember Goldman being particularly fond of this theory, of course. Didn't Ginger see it or something?

Actually, if anyone can link me to the old thread about this that would be great. I can't find it.

[celine]

This is speculation on the authors part obviously.
The type of downer medications in Elvis's system would not have produced rapid heartbeats-they would have slowed his heart, he would have slipped into a deep coma like sleep and then his heart just would have slowly stopped beating.
His heart did not stop slowly- he had a violent attack while awake.
I have posted this before-but I think it bears repeating:
In 1994, the autopsy into Presley's death was re-opened. Coroner Dr. Joseph Davis declared: "There is nothing in any of the data that supports a death from drugs [i.e. drug overdose]. In fact, everything points to a sudden, violent heart attack."[186] However, there is little doubt that long-term drug abuse caused his premature death.[238]

Sorry but I didn't read your other post. But now that you mention it, it sounds familiar, I must have read it somewhere.
Sure, it might be speculation and it might be subjective. There are so many stories around Elvis' passing, we'll never know for sure what is the truth and what is just a story. One should think that the coroner was telling the truth ... but money often creates a different truth.

However, what you said sounds very logical.

[buttonhead]

I know Elvis died in the bathroom,but do most people have to make a joke about it.That's what I don't like.

Yep I agree..

Thats i have a problem with it, not where he died ...

I mean dying IS definitely not a fun experience , I work at hospital ...been there and saw many people dying .... all you could think of his/ her family , I ve seen those who was so bad you could vomit just to see them dying. :( I felt sorry for Elvis even AFTER and when he died some people wrote not very respectful thing about him.

[Getlo]

Actually, if anyone can link me to the old thread about this that would be great. I can't find it.

This should be it ...

http://tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=18940&highlight=psychic+energy

[goodelvisgirl]

well just to say i'm glad he died at home and that it was not in public but where he died has always got alot of luaghs and alot of jokes from alot of folks and its like he was some fat dude who died on the loo thats what people remember and joke about and i think its sad

[Teddy]

This should be it ...

http://tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=18940&highlight=psychic+energy

Cheers (y)

[Tony Trout]

Fair enough, I guess that's true. :blush:

But was he really reading a naughty book instead of the Turin Shroud one we've been led to believe? I'm not disparaging the suggestion- I'm learning something here!


Yes, he was.




Where was the book found?
Is it a "for sure" that the 1st intercom was on the blink? Also...I have read so many different versions about his tongue. Bit down on his tongue OR bit through it?



According to a quote by Dr. Elias Ghanem, Elvis had bitten through his tongue....


Do any sources reveal this juicy info other than Goldman's?

"Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" on page 727 via a quote from Dr. Elias Ghanem to Lamar Fike:

"Lamar, Elvis suffocated. Anytime a person bites through his tongue, he's suffocating."



Comedy = tragedy + time.

In other words, every subject is worthy of a joke after a suitable amount of time has passed ... even things like 9/11, Princess Diana, space shuttle disasters ... and Elvis' death on/near the crapper.

These things aren't funny in and of themselves, obviously, but dark humour is how we eventually deal with them and compartmentalise them for later in life.

You need to get a thicker skin when it comes to jokes about fat, druggy Elvis dying whilst trying to s**t. Otherwise, you'll just explode. It doesn't matter how or where he died.

And teddy: the astrological sex position magazine wasn't porn or a "naughty book" as you call it. I forget the title right now, there was another thread about it months ago. But at the death scene, both this and the Turin book were there. The magazine was removed by person/s unknown for fear it would put Elvis in a bad light.


Agreed completely.




I believe it was called Sex and Psychic Energy.



You are correct, Teddy. :)

[utmom2008]

You are correct, Teddy. :)

Let me guess....:hmm: you been looking through it SP?:lmfao::lmfao:

[Donut]

At least the book was something different, 90% of the world population read the back of the same shampoo bottle over and over again everytime they seat to push on the throne. Some can recite them by heart.

[utmom2008]

At least the book was something different, 90% of the world population read the back of the same shampoo bottle over and over again everytime they seat to push on the throne. Some can recite them by heart.

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Unchained Melody]

So, Teddy, you believe Elvis was "Flogging the Snake"? Or was he just using the bathroom to relieve himself?I don't care if he was reading Mad magazine..it's stiill a big joke to *****s " Your idol died on the crapper"!(n)

It's pretty sad we are talking about it in such a manner.:doh:

[TotallyInsane]

It's pretty sad we are talking about it in such a manner.:doh:

(y)(y)(y)(y)

[tony70]

it's better he died at home rather than public it was bad enough the pandemonium that went on then ,it just would of been to crazy ,crazier than it was, I feel anyway

[Pacer72]

I always get a little sad around 16th August. I've never really thought about how Elvis died, it's always why did he die with so much left to give?
By all accounts he suffered enourmously and why anyone would want to know more about that is just bewildering?
If Elvis died in a plane crash, on stage or at home doesn't really matter, it's that he died alone, despite being under 24hour supervision, in pain, despite all the medication he was taking, and the saddest thing of all we still don't know why this happened to someone so great? Even those that knew him, were with him, are asking themselves how could this have happened. I guess we'll never really know the truth about what happened between 6.30am to 2.15pm at Graceland on August 16th 1977 because no one there that day will come out and say I could have saved Elvis Presley.

[Getlo]

Even those that knew him, were with him, are asking themselves how could this have happened.

They were certainly in shock, but they all knew exactly why it happened. They just didn't discuss it publicly for a long time.


I guess we'll never really know the truth about what happened between 6.30am to 2.15pm at Graceland on August 16th 1977

Of course we know the truth. He went to bed, took his meds, got up to read and died in the bathroom. No conspiracies, no other BS. End of story.



no one there that day will come out and say I could have saved Elvis Presley.

Because none of them could have!

[utmom2008]

Because none of them could have!

But don't forget that Priscilla says that Scientology could have saved him.:lmfao::lmfao: I didn't think it was possible to think less of her........but I was soooo wrong!!(n)

[Unchained Melody]

But don't forget that Priscilla says that Scientology could have saved him.:lmfao::lmfao: I didn't think it was possible to think less of her........but I was soooo wrong!!(n)

What she says or does never ceases to amazes me:doh::doh:

[beckelvis]

The truth i don´t think about everithing about his death seems dark never know the way he died,but if that died on the site that most loved GRACELAND and that´s enough have died at the memories of the last time.

[fillaelvis]

Elvis didnt die on the toilet. He stumbled off the sink and had a stroke. Anything else is totally lie. He died a peaceful death.

[Elvistcbkirch]

Dear everybody

Being back after one week of banning from the webmaster, its nice start up with a thread from Roseanne. Did Elvis die on the commode and was the bathroom the right place to exit? The question is immortal for Elvis-fans. First the facts, then my opinion.

1. Yes, Elvis died while trying to defecate. He had a twisted colon, and his attemt to defecate made his bloodpressure rise dramatically and resulted in a massive heartattack. He felt a severe pain in the chest, tried to stand up but fell forward, crawled a bit and vomitted. He was found in a kneeling position with his face in a pool of vomit in the thick, red carpet with his bare butt right up in the air and his head was close to the bathroom wall. He had bitten deep in his tounge, his facecolur was purple and his eyes bloodshot. Even if the intercom beside the commode had worked, he never would have managed to reach it. When Ginger found him, rigor mortis had set in. He was long gone.

2. Yes, he read the 'naughty' book, but all sources point to the fact, that he also had other books and magazines in the bathroom, there among some of the books from Larry Geller. Its also a fact, that the 'naughty' book was removed from the bathroom. The reason is obvious.

Was the bathroom the right place place to die? In my opinion, absolutely. Where would Elvis find a peaceful place without being disturbed? In the bathroom. It could have been worse. Imagine Elvis being shot from one of his own bullets, dragged out of a car accident or carried down from the stage in the middle of show in front of the rolling cameras.

Since I was banned from this site for the last week, I had time to reflect a bit on the posts and reactions in the forum. Basically, I dont understand why so many in here still have illusions about the life and death of Elvis, and I certainly cannot accept (or respect) that some folks after 31 years still dont know what happened on august 16. Over and over againg we hear the same song like 'nobody knows what happenede on that day' and even worse 'the upstairs area is an unsolved mystery that was left untouched since the day he died', despite the facts, that we do know, what happened in the bathroom. We do know what is upstairs and what is not. Many people in here claims (for varius reasons), that the books that was written about Elvis are nonsense. Some are, I agree, but the best (Death Of Elvis Presley and Guralnicks double) brings the puzzle together pice by piece. From different sourses saying the same things. Taking the risk of getting banned, I must say, that the place where most nonsense is said about Elvis, is here. Not to insult or offend anybody. Its obvious if you take a glance in the topics. My advice is. Read the essensial books.

I cross my fingers and hope I dont get banned for this.

[utmom2008]

Dear everybody
Being back after one week of banning from the webmaster, its nice start up with a thread from Roseanne.

And I am honored.;););)

[utmom2008]

He died a peaceful death.

Sad to say, but he didn't die a peaceful death. :sad::sad:

[Elvistcbkirch]

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And I am honored.;););)

My pleasure!

[Unchained Melody]

Elvis didnt die on the toilet.
He stumbled off the sink and had a stroke. Anything else is totally lie. He died a peaceful death


He did not die a peaceful death. On the contrary it was quiet painful experience for him most likely. And I don't know what in the world you mean by he stumbled off the sink, he stood up from the commade attempted to walk a few feet, fell to the ground and tried to craw and collasped their in the carpet..

[fillaelvis]

He did not die a peaceful death. On the contrary it was quiet painful experience for him most likely.

I dont understand why this is a subject. I have important knowledge and information about this. Trust me. He did not die on the toilet.

[Elvistcbkirch]

Huh? Could you be more specific?

[utmom2008]

I dont understand why this is a subject. I have important knowledge and information about this. Trust me. He did not die on the toilet.

He WAS on the toilet as he BEGAN to die, and his death was anything but peaceful. When you are lying face down in your own vomit and having bitten THROUGH your tongue, and rigor mortis shows that you were crawling.......that ISN'T peaceful.:sad::blush::blink:

[Merry]

This is very upsetting.

[utmom2008]

This is very upsetting.

Sorry Kimmi. Don't read all of this if it is upsetting to you.:blush::blush:

[Unchained Melody]

I dont understand why this is a subject. I have important knowledge and information about this. Trust me. He did not die on the toilet.

Read this book. Should help. I think we've talked about this enough jmo.

[Getlo]

He stumbled off the sink and had a stroke.

He stumbled off the what, and had a what now? :lmfao:


He died a peaceful death.

:lmfao: Good Lord ... :rolleyes:


.I have important knowledge and information about this. Trust me.

Please share it with us all, especially if it's something that no one else has ever heard before ...

[SatninLove]

I think it would have been better if Elvis had been able to pass with the people that he loved around him..I hate it that he had to pass alone...
-SatninLove

[suspicious_mind]

Im glad he died at home. Also glad to know he most likely went to Heaven.
But like other posters its sad to hear how many jokes that have been made about it. Its not funny at all. Its sad. I hate to think of him suffering like that.

[fillaelvis]

He stumbled off the what, and had a what now? :lmfao:



:lmfao: Good Lord ... :rolleyes:



Please share it with us all, especially if it's something that no one else has ever heard before ...

We all know, that Elvis was found in his bedroom on his bed. He was moved from here down the stairs. I have this from Joe Esposito and many more. Trust me, I know a lot, and we sure arent going to make this a subject, are we?

[Getlo]

We all know, that Elvis was found in his bedroom on his bed. He was moved from here down the stairs. I have this from Joe Esposito and many more. Trust me, I know a lot, and we sure arent going to make this a subject, are we?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you ... fillaelvis. :D

Good luck with that marvellous theory, old son. :lol:

Thousands won't believe you, but I'll support you all the way! (y) ;)

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Good to know someone has the true, inside knowledge of what went down that fateful night. Finally someone had the courage to say it.

And its great you got it from Joe himself no less. Brilliant stuff! (y)

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::doh::doh:

[Elvistcbkirch]

We all know, that Elvis was found in his bedroom on his bed. He was moved from here down the stairs. I have this from Joe Esposito and many more. Trust me, I know a lot, and we sure arent going to make this a subject, are we?

You seem to know a lot, but if your 'Esposito'-theory' are 'special knowledge' you are 30 years behind. I rest my case...

[fillaelvis]

Esposito wass the first person to find Elvis, so HE WAS there, and thats a fact. I spoke to him about this. He was confident and very serious about this subject.

[Getlo]

Esposito wass the first person to find Elvis.

Wrong. It was Ginger.


He was confident and very serious about this subject.

Glad somebody is! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Let me get this straight: you're saying Esposito told you he found Elvis in bed then moved him to the bathroom?

And why, pray tell, would he a) do that and b) tell you and nobody else?

[Diane]

Gee, aren't we lucky to get a "real" expert on this subject.:lol::lol::lol:

Diane

[Getlo]

Gee, aren't we lucky to get a "real" expert on this subject.:lol::lol::lol:

No, no, Diane ...

Be fair ... let's give him a ... :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: ... chance.

I can't go on, I'm laughing too much ...

[Merry]

Wrong. It was Ginger.



Glad somebody is! :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Let me get this straight: you're saying Esposito told you he found Elvis in bed then moved him to the bathroom?

And why, pray tell, would he a) do that and b) tell you and nobody else?


Why pray tell, are you trying to humilate this new poster?

How rude!

[Getlo]

Why pray tell, are you trying to humilate this new poster?

How rude!

Oh, no Jess. As you can see, I've asked him to deliver this stunning piece of news to us all.

This could change the entire face of Elvis fandom!

I mean that.

So, let's hear it fillaelvis. What's the gossip?

[Diane]

Because he's treating us like he thinks we're saps? I think we have every right to come and say we're not stupid.

Diane

[Elvistcbkirch]

Oh, no Jess. As you can see, I've asked him to deliver this stunning piece of news to us all.

This could change the entire face of Elvis fandom!

I mean that.

So, let's hear it fillaelvis. What's the gossip?

Here we go again. Someone will get banned before the day is over...

[fillaelvis]

Oh, no Jess. As you can see, I've asked him to deliver this stunning piece of news to us all.

This could change the entire face of Elvis fandom!

I mean that.

So, let's hear it fillaelvis. What's the gossip?

All I know is, that i spoke to Joe Esposito at a conference in Germany, and that he was a very sincere and honest man, and I'm very confident, that he told me the truth. And that is, that Elvis was found in his bed and moved from here to the ambulance. I believe him more than vicious rumors.

[Getlo]

Here we go again. Someone will get banned before the day is over...

Look, either this poster is on here simply to cause upset and trouble with his posts, or he's serious about what he says.

Forgive my cynicism, but I think it might be the former.

If he is serious, let's hear what he has to say.

Come on, am I the only one to find these theories so far delivered quite fanciful?

[Getlo]

All I know is, that i spoke to Joe Esposito at a conference in Germany, and that he was a very sincere and honest man, and I'm very confident, that he told me the truth. And that is, that Elvis was found in his bed and moved from here to the ambulance. I believe him more than vicious rumors.

Okay, then.

Why would Joe remove Elvis from his bed where he died (in relative peace, one would assume) and then lay him on the bathroom floor in his PJs?

Is English your first language? I only ask this because you may have misunderstood what Joe told you.

Joe Esposito did not ... repeat not ... tell you that he moved Elvis from his bed to the bathroom.

It truly beggars belief.

[Diane]

Nope, I'm with you Getlo. This is just too off the wall.:)

Diane

[fillaelvis]

Sorry not again.

[Getlo]

Nope, I'm with you Getlo. This is just too off the wall.:)

Thank you.

I'll apologise publicly to fillelvis here if I came across as, how shall I put it, disbelieving.

But I am the first to defend Elvis and the truth when theories like this pop up.

I remain convined that fillaelvis misunderstood Joe.

[presley31]

I don't want to get in the middle but joe didn't find elvis in the bedroom and ginger was the first to find elvis and than AL(correct me if l'am wrong there) and than joe and joe also has also said he give elvis mouth to mouth and than turned around and said he didn't do that so please forgive us if we don't take what joe says serious.

[Getlo]

But I'm anxious to say what I mean.

The please do so.

You cannot be serious to actually believe all this, can you? I mean, really?!

Tell us more of what you know.

[fillaelvis]

The please do so.

You cannot be serious to actually believe all this, can you? I mean, really?!

Tell us more of what you know.

I dont think I should bring more informations out right now, but all I can say, I have the right version of what happened. From first fand. He was there, and you werent. Why so upset? We dont want to argue, do we?

[presley31]

I don't have my careless book at hand but l did find this list at what happened that night and joe wasn't the first to find elvis

a. Elvis returned to Graceland from the dentist between 12:30 AM and 1:30 AM. He was reported to be energetic, optimistic, good humored, and full of plans for the future.

b. At 4:00 AM Elvis called Billy Smith and Billy's wife Jo to join him and Ginger on the racquetball court for an hour's play. Elvis was still wearing the DEA jogging suit. Elvis reportedly wacked himself on the shin, hard enough to leave a knot on his leg, with his racket during the game. This injury was severe enough to leave a mark on his leg. No mark was noted in the alleged autopsy.

c. At 5:00 AM, Elvis sat at the piano in the lounge area of the racquetball building and sang some songs after the game.

d. At 6:00 AM, Elvis and Ginger went up to his bedroom where he changed into his pajamas (powder blue by most reports), watched TV and read.

e. At 8:00 AM, Elvis told Ginger he was going into the bathroom lounge area to read. Note: The bathroom has its own back entrance that leads downstairs.

f. Between 8:00 and 8:30 AM, Elvis calls Dr. Nichopolous at his office, for some sleeping pills, and although he was not there he spoke with the nurse. Nurse Tish Henley instructed her husband to take a couple of pills to be given to Elvis' Aunt who came by, placed in a small envelope, to give to Elvis.

g. At 9:30 AM, Elvis left the bathroom and went downstairs at which time he signed for a special delivery letter from Paul Lichter.



h. At 10:00 AM, Elvis was seen retrieving his newspaper from the porch.

i. At the very least, three hours transpired before the reported time of the body having been discovered.

j. Between 2:00 PM and 2:30 PM, Ginger Alden awakens, making some phone calls, and then remembers Elvis having gone into the bathroom/lounge area earlier to read.

k. At 2:30 PM, Ginger claims she discovered Elvis' body in the bathroom/lounge area on the floor in front of the commode, where he was purportedly reading, according to police notes. The body was found in a "kneeling" position, with the knees almost touching the chin, resting on the forearms, bent under him, head down, with his face in the carpet. Ginger called down to Al Strada, Elvis' friend/employee who was in the kitchen. Al came upstairs, then called downstairs for Joe Esposito, Elvis' friend and staff manager. Dr. Nichopolous was called. Joe, realizing a problem with Elvis and also noticed that Rigor-Mortis had set in, he called the Fire Department, Rescue Unit # 6. Joe and others rolled the body over and then he (Joe) started CPR.

l. At 2:33 PM, Rescue Unit # 6 arrived at Graceland. The medics continued CPR, despite the body being Rigor-Mortised and with Lividity.

m. At 2:48 PM, the body was transported to Baptist Memorial Hospital.

n. At 2:56 PM, the alleged body of Elvis Presley arrived at BMH, reportedly DOA. (Dead on arrival).

o. At 3:00 PM, family and friends were told that Elvis was pronounced dead.

p. At 3:30 PM, the fans and public were told that Elvis had died.

q. At approximately 7:00 PM, the body was being prepared for an autopsy.

r. At approximately 7:30 PM, the initial body inspection was completed. Note: The body inspection is when the Medical Examiner does an external viewing of the body, making notations as to the condition of the body, noting any signs of injury, etc.

s. At 8:00 PM, Dr. Nichopolous and Dr. Francisco, the Medical Examiner for Shelby County, were interviewed in a press conference.

source:http://members.fortunecity.com/sivlenoramoran/aug16.htm

[Getlo]

I dont think I should bring more informations out right now, but all I can say, I have the right version of what happened. From first fand. He was there, and you werent. Why so upset? We dont want to argue, do we?

I knew it ... you say these incredible things, then you back off. (n)

And Joe Esposito was there, but you weren't either. ;)

Your last sentence above tells me you are not serious about this or any other post.

If you have this supposed information, your duty should be to share it.

But it's all a web of intrigue and deceit.

[Getlo]

I don't have my ..... http://members.fortunecity.com/sivlenoramoran/aug16.htm

Thankyou, presley31. All documented from the evening in question.

Read it, fillaelvis. The truth shall set you free.

[Diane]

I'm not upset with you Fillaelvis and certainly not going to argue with you on this. It's frankly not worth my time but I sure want to thank you for the best laugh I've had in a long while.:lol:

Diane

[utmom2008]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you ... fillaelvis. :D

Good luck with that marvellous theory, old son. :lol:

Thousands won't believe you, but I'll support you all the way! (y) ;)

:lmfao:

Good to know someone has the true, inside knowledge of what went down that fateful night. Finally someone had the courage to say it.

And its great you got it from Joe himself no less. Brilliant stuff! (y)

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::doh::doh:

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[utmom2008]

I'm not upset with you Fillaelvis and certainly not going to argue with you on this. It's frankly not worth my time but I sure want to thank you for the best laugh I've had in a long while.:lol:

Diane

Yes...what she said...(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

Esposito wass the first person to find Elvis, so HE WAS there, and thats a fact. I spoke to him about this. He was confident and very serious about this subject.

Sorry Fillaelvis, but that's NOT a fact. Ginger Alden found him.;););)

[utmom2008]

Because he's treating us like he thinks we're saps? I think we have every right to come and say we're not stupid.

Diane

I agree with you 100% Diane.(y)(y) Why are we supposed to just sit back and let people "start those Nasty rumors" as they are called, and NOT confront him on it? I don't understand that line of thinking at all.:doh::doh::doh::doh:

[WHITETIGERMAN]

Joe changes his stories alot.....I've heard him on more than one occasion change his story about August 16,1977. There is a video clip on Jordans Elvis World in the real video corner titled......... Looking Back 1977-2004.Go to the site and hit Elvis Library then hit Real Video Corner scroll down til you find Looking back 1977-2004.
The first clip is of reporters talking to Joe and Charlie Hodge..and if I'm not mistaken,Joe says that Elvis was in the bed.
Don't get me wrong......I know he was found in the bathroom....but Joe can't seem to tell the truth.He's given too many different statements to me that didn't add up together.Just like on His Best Friend Remembers DVD.He says that there are stories saying that he stated that he gave mouth to mouth....he denies that.I have video tape proof that he was the one saying he did give The King mouth to mouth,on Geraldo Rivera's Hour Special on Elvis somewhere between 1988-90. Sorry a** Dee Stanley was on there as well.
I'm sorry........you can't always take Joe's word either.Here is the link....please check it out and tell me if I'm wrong about Joe's statement about Elvis in the bed not breathing.
Once again....I'm passing on what I've seen.I DO NOT BY ALL MEANS believe that Elvis was in his bed.


http://www.jordans-elvis-world.com/

[midnight]

People must think our knowledge of Elvis is very limited! They keep trying to pull the wool over our eyes! I have been soaking up Elvis information for well over 30 years and while I do not know everything I sure know a darn lot!!

[WHITETIGERMAN]

You know I've noticed that people think they know alot.I look at it this way......some people know more than others,and some like to give glorified statements.If I think I know something I'll try not to sound like I know it all.Midnight...you're right,about your last reply.
I know that there is still alot I don't know.

[Diane]

There is a lot none of us will ever know and that's as it should be. Too much has been revealed already. Not that Elvis was unfaithful, that was common knowledge and not that he was addicted to pills as that separates true fans from those who only love him for the image but those little instances in his private life where both faults were highlighted didn't need to come out at all.

Diane

[midnight]

So true Diane!! (y)(y)

[WHITETIGERMAN]

There is a lot none of us will ever know and that's as it should be. Too much has been revealed already. Not that Elvis was unfaithful, that was common knowledge and not that he was addicted to pills as that separates true fans from those who only love him for the image but those little instances in his private life where both faults were highlighted didn't need to come out at all.

Diane




I agree with you Diane

[presley31]

I don't know everything about elvis but l sure wouldn't take joe's word as gospal.

[WHITETIGERMAN]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that about Joe.

[Tony Trout]

I dont understand why this is a subject. I have important knowledge and information about this. Trust me. He did not die on the toilet.


You have been told lies by Mr. "Best Friend" Joe Esposito. He originally told the press he found Elvis in bed to protect Elvis's dignity. Elvis died in the bathroom--case closed.




This is very upsetting.


We all know, that Elvis was found in his bedroom on his bed. He was moved from here down the stairs. I have this from Joe Esposito and many more. Trust me, I know a lot, and we sure arent going to make this a subject, are we?

We're not making a subject. The fact is Elvis died in the bathroom and Joe (in trying to protect Elvis) told the press that Elvis died in bed.




You seem to know a lot, but if your 'Esposito'-theory' are 'special knowledge' you are 30 years behind. I rest my case...


Exactly. Thank you.




Esposito wass the first person to find Elvis, so HE WAS there, and thats a fact. I spoke to him about this. He was confident and very serious about this subject.

He was wrong. It was Ginger. You have been misled by the 'great' Joe Esposito, my friend.





All I know is, that i spoke to Joe Esposito at a conference in Germany, and that he was a very sincere and honest man, and I'm very confident, that he told me the truth. And that is, that Elvis was found in his bed and moved from here to the ambulance. I believe him more than vicious rumors.


You believe a lie.




I don't want to get in the middle but joe didn't find elvis in the bedroom and ginger was the first to find elvis and than AL(correct me if l'am wrong there) and than joe and joe also has also said he give elvis mouth to mouth and than turned around and said he didn't do that so please forgive us if we don't take what joe says serious.


You're correct, Jen.



I dont think I should bring more informations out right now, but all I can say, I have the right version of what happened. From first fand. He was there, and you werent. Why so upset? We dont want to argue, do we?

Sorry, but you are wrong. Read the facts below.




I don't have my careless book at hand but l did find this list at what happened that night and joe wasn't the first to find elvis

a. Elvis returned to Graceland from the dentist between 12:30 AM and 1:30 AM. He was reported to be energetic, optimistic, good humored, and full of plans for the future.

b. At 4:00 AM Elvis called Billy Smith and Billy's wife Jo to join him and Ginger on the racquetball court for an hour's play. Elvis was still wearing the DEA jogging suit. Elvis reportedly wacked himself on the shin, hard enough to leave a knot on his leg, with his racket during the game. This injury was severe enough to leave a mark on his leg. No mark was noted in the alleged autopsy.

c. At 5:00 AM, Elvis sat at the piano in the lounge area of the racquetball building and sang some songs after the game.

d. At 6:00 AM, Elvis and Ginger went up to his bedroom where he changed into his pajamas (powder blue by most reports), watched TV and read.

e. At 8:00 AM, Elvis told Ginger he was going into the bathroom lounge area to read. Note: The bathroom has its own back entrance that leads downstairs.

f. Between 8:00 and 8:30 AM, Elvis calls Dr. Nichopolous at his office, for some sleeping pills, and although he was not there he spoke with the nurse. Nurse Tish Henley instructed her husband to take a couple of pills to be given to Elvis' Aunt who came by, placed in a small envelope, to give to Elvis.

g. At 9:30 AM, Elvis left the bathroom and went downstairs at which time he signed for a special delivery letter from Paul Lichter.



h. At 10:00 AM, Elvis was seen retrieving his newspaper from the porch.

i. At the very least, three hours transpired before the reported time of the body having been discovered.

j. Between 2:00 PM and 2:30 PM, Ginger Alden awakens, making some phone calls, and then remembers Elvis having gone into the bathroom/lounge area earlier to read.

k. At 2:30 PM, Ginger claims she discovered Elvis' body in the bathroom/lounge area on the floor in front of the commode, where he was purportedly reading, according to police notes. The body was found in a "kneeling" position, with the knees almost touching the chin, resting on the forearms, bent under him, head down, with his face in the carpet. Ginger called down to Al Strada, Elvis' friend/employee who was in the kitchen. Al came upstairs, then called downstairs for Joe Esposito, Elvis' friend and staff manager. Dr. Nichopolous was called. Joe, realizing a problem with Elvis and also noticed that Rigor-Mortis had set in, he called the Fire Department, Rescue Unit # 6. Joe and others rolled the body over and then he (Joe) started CPR.

l. At 2:33 PM, Rescue Unit # 6 arrived at Graceland. The medics continued CPR, despite the body being Rigor-Mortised and with Lividity.

m. At 2:48 PM, the body was transported to Baptist Memorial Hospital.

n. At 2:56 PM, the alleged body of Elvis Presley arrived at BMH, reportedly DOA. (Dead on arrival).

o. At 3:00 PM, family and friends were told that Elvis was pronounced dead.

p. At 3:30 PM, the fans and public were told that Elvis had died.

q. At approximately 7:00 PM, the body was being prepared for an autopsy.

r. At approximately 7:30 PM, the initial body inspection was completed. Note: The body inspection is when the Medical Examiner does an external viewing of the body, making notations as to the condition of the body, noting any signs of injury, etc.

s. At 8:00 PM, Dr. Nichopolous and Dr. Francisco, the Medical Examiner for Shelby County, were interviewed in a press conference.

source:http://members.fortunecity.com/sivlenoramoran/aug16.htm


BINGO! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!! (y)(y)(y)


Although, I do find the statement that "Elvis was seen retreiving the newpspaper from the porch" to be a bit unbelieveable.

[WHITETIGERMAN]

That last one sounds like the winner to me.That's really how I remember hearing how it happened.Sad but true.........that The Greatest Entertainer In The World had to go that way.....but we can't choose how we go,because it's all in GOD'S hands.

[MissyM]

I have no feeling on how he died. Dead is dead. We can't bring him back. People die in ways that are not pretty. It's life and death in it's cruelest but real form. It's a part I rather not dwell on much.

[Diane]

I'm only sad that where he died was publicized so much and made cruel jokes of. Personally it didn't matter where he died, it just mattered that we lost him.

Diane

[MissyM]

I truely understand that part.

[WHITETIGERMAN]

Same here.....he is deeply missed.

[4THEHEART]

the shame is the appetite about the subject I sense in people, icluding some of his fans..it's so small thinking and a huge example of how to get lowest by hoping some psycological benefits from his death..I repeat again for such people,Elvis's mortality is the only way to help them feel less inferior against a man of great admiration..
how happy for the ones who don't feel guilty for loving Elvis and are able to enjoy this..

[fillaelvis]

Thankyou, presley31. All documented from the evening in question.

Read it, fillaelvis. The truth shall set you free.

Its all a question of who you believe. And I believe Mr. Joe Esposito Is a fine man, who speaks the truth about Elvis. And we all choose who to believe, dont we?

[Unchained Melody]

Oh, no Jess. As you can see, I've asked him to deliver this stunning piece of news to us all.

This could change the entire face of Elvis fandom!

I mean that.

So, let's hear it fillaelvis. What's the gossip?

Exactly Right Getlo, Fillaelvis seems to know it from Diamond Joe so why not share it with us.

[Unchained Melody]

Its all a question of who you believe. And I believe Mr. Joe Esposito Is a fine man, who speaks the truth about Elvis. And we all choose who to believe, dont we?

This is true. But you have the facts right under your nose, why would you want to continue to believe a lie.:doh:

[Miss Clawdy]

For me it doesn't matter where he died, the only thing that saddens me is to imagine that he was all alone when he died, without a 'helping' hand (I'm not saying that he could have been saved), the most terrible thing must have been to be in mortal fear when he felt the pain and started suffocating, I mean just somebody who would have been there for him maybe could have eased his final minutes a little bit, minutes which surely seemed like an eternity for Elvis....

[Getlo]

Its all a question of who you believe.

It is indeed.

There's an old saying: "sleep on it". Which is exactly what I have done about this over the past few hours.

Now my mind is clear.

Your posts (especially on this topic) are simply wind-ups, and I don't think for one second that you actually believe them.

And, unlike my previous threads on this post, I am not making a joke here or taking the mickey myself.

Well done, sir. Well played. :notworthy I admit it; I fell for your ploys hook, line and sinker.

I'm usually not so easily taken in, so again ... well done. I'm actually a little embarrassed for myself. My BS meter must have been off.

[The King's Queen]

For me it doesn't matter where he died, the only thing that saddens me is to imagine that he was all alone when he died, without a 'helping' hand (I'm not saying that he could have been saved), the most terrible thing must have been to be in mortal fear when he felt the pain and started suffocating, I mean just somebody who would have been there for him maybe could have eased his final minutes a little bit, minutes which surely seemed like an eternity for Elvis....

Great post! This is what I've always thought too. I know that honestly we all do die alone anyway...our souls leave us and no one goes with them. But it would be easier for me to think that he had at least been afforded the luxury of a loved one to hold him or say "I love you" or maybe even a hug during the final moments of his life. That is what has always bothered me...:'(

[fillaelvis]

It is indeed.

There's an old saying: "sleep on it". Which is exactly what I have done about this over the past few hours.

Now my mind is clear.

Your posts (especially on this topic) are simply wind-ups, and I don't think for one second that you actually believe them.

And, unlike my previous threads on this post, I am not making a joke here or taking the mickey myself.

Well done, sir. Well played. :notworthy I admit it; I fell for your ploys hook, line and sinker.

I'm usually not so easily taken in, so again ... well done. I'm actually a little embarrassed for myself. My BS meter must have been off.


I dont know, why you would act like this. So full of hate. As I told you before, I have confident fcae-to-face-INFORMATIONS about the death of Elvis. And it seems like you havent.

[utmom2008]

I dont know, why you would act like this. So full of hate. As I told you before, I have confident fcae-to-face-INFORMATIONS about the death of Elvis. And it seems like you havent.

That post was anything but full of hate...it was tongue-in-cheek and I think you know that!;);););)

[fillaelvis]

That post was anything but full of hate...it was tongue-in-cheek and I think you know that!;);););)


Utmom, I dont know why you should know this. I think your videos are so great. And now this.

[utmom2008]

Utmom, I dont know why you should know this. I think your videos are so great. And now this.

I am thrilled that you love my videos....:D.....but they don't have anything to do with this coversation.;):P:D

[fillaelvis]

I am thrilled that you love my videos....:D.....but they don't have anything to do with this coversation.;):P:D

Utmom, I thought you were with me on this. Elvis was a fantastic person that was a King and now you say this.

[utmom2008]

Utmom, I thought you were with me on this. Elvis was a fantastic person that was a King and now you say this.

WHAT????? What did I say?:blink:

[fillaelvis]

WHAT????? What did I say?:blink:

I guess everyone can see, what I mean. Your statements says it all.

[TotallyInsane]

I guess everyone can see, what I mean. Your statements says it all.

I don't understand what you're saying either. Can you explain?

[fillaelvis]

I don't understand what you're saying either. Can you explain?


I dont think I have to explain these insults. AT ALL!
:newyear:

[TotallyInsane]

I dont think I have to explain these insults. AT ALL!
:newyear:


Don't understand what insults you're talking about but Merry Christmas to you too!!!

[fillaelvis]

Don't understand what insults you're talking about but Merry Christmas to you too!!!

You dont understand? These hatefull comments on this thread.

[TotallyInsane]

I don't understand why you think UTMom was making hateful comments. I don't see that she was.

[fillaelvis]

I don't understand why you think UTMom was making hateful comments. I don't see that she was.

Please do not harass, threaten, stalk, spam, or otherwise abuse other users.

[TotallyInsane]

Please do not harass, threaten, stalk, spam, or otherwise abuse other users.

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[fillaelvis]

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Thanks totally insane. I love your posts...

[TotallyInsane]

Thanks totally insane. I love your posts...

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

Please do not harass, threaten, stalk, spam, or otherwise abuse other users.


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What a joke!! I hope there aren't any REAL Elvis fans here today just looking around to see if they wanted to join. And why is it again that people think Elvis fans are...........different?:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfa o:

[KPM]

Have I missed something?;)

[TotallyInsane]

Have I missed something?;)


Not a thing KPM!!!!

[Tommy]

Please stay on topic. Thank you.

[Miss Clawdy]

What a joke!! I hope there aren't any REAL Elvis fans here today just looking around to see if they wanted to join. And why is it again that people think Elvis fans are...........different?:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfa o:

....different!!!

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[presley31]

It would be terrible if elvis died in public, the media would be all over that like wildfire and made elvis look really bad, so l'am glad he got peace when his time came, but l kinda wish he had someone who loved him to be there when he left us, but thats my silly opinion.

[Miss Clawdy]

On the other hand, if Elvis had died in public the whole 'Elvis mystery' would not have taken place.....:doh:;)

[utmom2008]

....different!!!

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Welllllllll, I was trying to use a word that didn't offend everyone! You understood my point, right?:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Miss Clawdy]

Welllllllll, I was trying to use a word that didn't offend everyone! You understood my point, right?:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

absolutely! 'Different' is the perfect word, :lol::lol::lol:!

[midnight]

Boy, looks like I missed all the excitement here today!:blink:

[utmom2008]

Boy, looks like I missed all the excitement here today!:blink:

You can't imagine......:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink:

[Lindavia]

Elvis was a very public man and he had a very public life. I'm sad of his dead but I'm happy for him that it's happened in privacy.

[SweetCaroline]

I am just sad he died :( so young.
Sad for us as much as Elvis.
At least he had that moment when God
called him home...away from the prying eye of
the public. There are certain "fans" that would
have LOVED a picture of that, too. :blink:

[Sonny]

Enough for now....

Sonny