Are you contended and appreciative for what is going now for Elvis?

[ricardo b. prospero]

I personally believe there are lot more things that needs to be done by those concerned, for he deserves more besides the money he generates. Related to one of my threads I posted, Elvis needs more positive media exposure to compensate for the bad effects of the drug issue on him. I believe it should start with us fans the obligation to educate non-Elvis fans even not to convert them to become one but at least let them know Elvis is not really that bad.(y)

[Lisarose]

I think there is a lot more we can do, just haven't figured out how to do it. Perhaps it is just because of the 30th anniversary of Elvis' death, but there has been a lot of Elvis references. Maybe it's due to EPE's marketing. For example, last Christmas when his Christmas albums were re-released, I began to hear a lot of Elvis Christmas songs piped into our muzak system at work. The Las Vegas tv series had an Elvis themed Christmas show, American Idol went to Graceland, Oprah visited Graceland, The Japanese Prime Minister visited, etc, you get my drift. And while there are still people out there who jump on the bad side of Elvis, more & more people appear to drop that side & concentrate on his music & what his music has done for new generations.

[LORRIELOVESELVIS]

I personally believe there are lot more things that needs to be done by those concerned, for he deserves more besides the money he generates. Related to one of my threads I posted, Elvis needs more positive media exposure to compensate for the bad effects of the drug issue on him. I believe it should start with us fans the obligation to educate non-Elvis fans even not to convert them to become one but at least let them know Elvis is not really that bad.(y) You are so right! (y)- People I talk to really like hearing some of the great an sweet things that Elvis Presley did in his life, Not the drugs or how bad he look at the end of his life.I also wish that the city he help bring back to life would DO SOMETHING! AN THAT WOULD BE ---LAS VEGAS NV.!!!!!!!:king:..LOL LORRIE

[cameron]

...I believe it should start with us fans the obligation to educate non-Elvis fans even not to convert them to become one but at least let them know Elvis is not really that bad.(y)
I agree. There were only a few that started the "trashing of Elvis. "
It only takes a few to reverse it.
Be prepared . People have had 30 years to build on the BS.
I'm afraid it will take at least 30 years to clean up his name. :'(

Good luck and God bless. (y)

[Merry]

I agree. There were only a few that started the "trashing of Elvis. "
It only takes a few to reverse it.
Be prepared . People have had 30 years to build on the BS.
I'm afraid it will take at least 30 years to clean up his name. :'(

Good luck and God bless. (y)



Hi Cam,

A lot of people think outside the square, they just don't want to get involved in the arguments on the sites. In my opinion, they far outweigh the others.

I think Ricardo's suggestion is a very good one, and I've read two others saying the same thing, recently (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Perhaps the Fan Club Presidents should be contacted to throw some ideas around?

Who is in contact with some Fan Club Presidents, here?

Alternatively, if anyone has any further ideas, lets discuss them?

(y)

Kim

[Latte]

Ricardo i love this thread!

I've made it a small personal mission for myself and without knowing.
I have really gone out of my way to spread the word.
Especially since i have some black friends that thought the worst of him till i schooled them.
I loved the last ABC special with 50cent, Beyonce etc..Im not fans of theirs but it cut some of the racism sterotype that some people still have because they are ignorant about Elvis. That ABC special let me exhale a bit on that note.

[jak]

Elvis' place in musical history is secure no matter what.There is not much point in worrying about the other stuff.It's only the fans who care anyway.After being gone 30 years Elvis is not in the forefront for most people.Elvis is not that important in the lives of most people.We fans tend to think everyone cares as much as we do,but that's not the case.
Jak

[Merry]

Elvis' place in musical history is secure no matter what.There is not much point in worrying about the other stuff.It's only the fans who care anyway.After being gone 30 years Elvis is not in the forefront for most people.Elvis is not that important in the lives of most people.We fans tend to think everyone cares as much as we do,but that's not the case.
Jak



:hmm: Weeeeeeell, you know, Elvis' name is mentioned just about every day, through different forms of media, in Australia, anyway. Comedies, Movies, Series', other musicians, people trying to bring their career to the fore again, the list goes on, endless, as I hear his name, constantly.

I'll be in a Department Store, and there is a photo of Elvis on gift cards.

Nahh, have to disagree with you.

Kim

[jak]

:hmm: Weeeeeeell, you know, Elvis' name is mentioned just about every day, through different forms of media, in Australia, anyway. Comedies, Movies, Series', other musicians, people trying to bring their career to the fore again, the list goes on, endless, as I hear his name, constantly.

I'll be in a Department Store, and there is a photo of Elvis on gift cards.

Nahh, have to disagree with you.

Kim

Elvis is marketed to the fans because it means money.Elvis has lots of fans but we are the minority.The fans exaggerate his importance to the general public.Most people just dont care that much.That's especially true for younger people.They dont care about Elvis' image or about him for the most part.Elvis does not play a major role in the lives of most people.
Jak

[cameron]

......Elvis does not play a major role in the lives of most people. Jak

I agree with you on this. ;)
However; the name Elvis is known world wide. I've never had anyone ask " Elvis who?"

Even my 2 year old grandson makes me get EP on YouTube when he
comes over. He loves "Polk Salad Annie " .:lol:

[jak]

I agree with you on this. ;)
However; the name Elvis is known world wide. I've never had anyone ask " Elvis who?"

Even my 2 year old grandson makes me get EP on YouTube when he
comes over. He loves "Polk Salad Annie " .:lol:

My goodness.We agreed on a point and the world kept on turning.Elvis will always be remembered.Im sure 100 years from now people will still think of him.Time just has a way of diminishing a person's influence and impact over the years.Once all of us original fans have passed it will be really different in the Elvis world.There wont be anybody left to tell their memories.That's when you will see things really quiet down in a matter of speaking.
Jak

[ksimms2]

I think that Elvis is known more for his wonderful music, than for his drug problem these days. You only hear about the drug thing when they interview Priscilla or Joe E. pretty much. I think EPE could do more to publicize Elvis - releasing more unseen footage if it's available, concerts, etc. I would certainly buy it up! But also remember - if you push him on the public too much - people will get tired of seeing and hearing it more quickly - not us of course - because we are Elvis fanatics!

[ricardo b. prospero]

Jak, I certainly agree with what your are saying but if you believe you count yourself as a fan you must admit we are obligated to protect, preserve and project the better side of Elvis inspite of the prevailing unhealthy atmosphere being exploited by a lot of people. It is not our objective to covert all the people of this planet to become an Elvis fan. Let us organize ourselves and rally behind something beneficial and productive for Elvis, forget our differences, what we think and believe and stand as one. We maybe out numbered but like I always believe "There is power in quality than quantity" I supposed the most ideal way to start is to tap the resources of all the active Elvis Fans Club worldwide.

[Merry]

Elvis is marketed to the fans because it means money.Elvis has lots of fans but we are the minority.The fans exaggerate his importance to the general public.Most people just dont care that much.That's especially true for younger people.They dont care about Elvis' image or about him for the most part.Elvis does not play a major role in the lives of most people.
Jak


Each to their own opinion, Jak.

By the way, there is a very large majority of younger people on this Forum. :)

I've found, lol, that a lot of people only care about themselves :)

Kim

[jak]

Each to their own opinion, Jak.

By the way, there is a very large majority of younger people on this Forum. :)

I've found, lol, that a lot of people only care about themselves :)

Kim

The people that visit an Elvis forum do not represent the general public.Obviously you have many more people that do not call themselves fans.Just turn on mtv or read rolling stone or your favorite radio station.This will tell you how how Elvis is viewed by the people who deal in marketing.Elvis in nowhere to be found.Of course he has young fans but he is not what the kids are listening to as they say.
Jak

[elvisgal824]

Elvis in nowhere to be found.Of course he has young fans but he is not what the kids are listening to as they say.
Jak
I don't know if that's completely true. I'm 22 and I am a major Elvis fan. He is still relevant and not just to me. I think I try to take on the task that Ricardo is talking about and I really believe that most people understand the importance of Elvis Presley. I'm in college and nearly everyone that I talk to about Elvis seems to at least appreciate what he has done for music and popular culture. Elvis has more appeal than some might think. I also think young people are open minded and really interested in learning more about him.

[jak]

I don't know if that's completely true. I'm 22 and I am a major Elvis fan. He is still relevant and not just to me. I think I try to take on the task that Ricardo is talking about and I really believe that most people understand the importance of Elvis Presley. I'm in college and nearly everyone that I talk to about Elvis seems to at least appreciate what he has done for music and popular culture. Elvis has more appeal than some might think. I also think young people are open minded and really interested in learning more about him.

Youre missing my point.I know Elvis has younger fans like you.But dont you think an Elvis forum is where you might find Elvis fans?Just because youre here on an Elvis forum doesnt mean most young people are fans.They are not.Elvis in not current.When is the last time you heard Elvis on mtv or current radio.You havent and I havent either.He's in the oldie section.
Jak

[elvisgal824]

No, I do get your point. I am saying that more young people on the ground are actually listening and talking about Elvis and they have no idea what tcb-world is. Most of my friends have an Elvis Presley song or two on their iPods and I think most people at least respect him as an entertainer. Elvis or not-MTV or pop radio really isn't the best source to find out what young people really like to listen to.

[presley31]

I think that Elvis is known more for his wonderful music, than for his drug problem these days. You only hear about the drug thing when they interview Priscilla or Joe E. pretty much. I think EPE could do more to publicize Elvis - releasing more unseen footage if it's available, concerts, etc. I would certainly buy it up! But also remember - if you push him on the public too much - people will get tired of seeing and hearing it more quickly - not us of course - because we are Elvis fanatics!

l disgree with you about that, its not just priscilla and the joe talking about elvis drug problem the who circle of friends talked about it.

[jak]

No, I do get your point. I am saying that more young people on the ground are actually listening and talking about Elvis and they have no idea what tcb-world is. Most of my friends have an Elvis Presley song or two on their iPods and I think most people at least respect him as an entertainer. Elvis or not-MTV or pop radio really isn't the best source to find out what young people really like to listen to.

Im glad you know some young people that at least respect Elvis.Having said that though Im sure you dont think Elvis is considered relevant among the majority of today's youth or culture?His music is far removed from today's scene.
Jak

[elvisgal824]

I agree somewhat. I mean obviously his music is relevant in an abstract way. I agree that some young people aren't even conscience of this fact. I wish that his image had not been mocked like it has in the media. I guess there isn't a whole lot that you can do about that but I still believe that Elvis fans are in the majority. It's the job of MTV and other such outlets to play what is happening now. Elvis doesn't seem relevant in those realms because it's their job to be on the cutting edge of the music scene. Let's face it, E has been gone for thirty years. The number of Elvis' fans has continued to grow regardless of whether or not he is in the media on a regular basis.

[Rover]

Honestly I don't really like what EPE is doing...they seem to care only about money :(
And most people seem to have only a negative opinion of him (he took drugs, he was crazy, his fans too :P) and don't know about the positive stuff most of the time...Same thing for the medias, here in France there were a few documentaries for the 30th anniversary this summer but I never heard about one of his movies being on french TV (maybe it happened before I was born?)
It's the same problem with the radio station, only one broadcast a few Elvis songs sometimes (and it's always the same ones)
I guess the only place left is the net...and here the fans can do something, and I was very surprised to find so many fans, videos and stuff online :)

Someone said that we should "educate" the non-fans...ok, why not, but the only problem is to be labeled as a freak :)

[utmom2008]

Each to their own opinion, Jak.

By the way, there is a very large majority of younger people on this Forum. :)

I've found, lol, that a lot of people only care about themselves :)

Kim
I have been amazed at the young people in Youtube that were not yet born in 1977, yet they are fascinated with him. I think that it's wonderful that new generations are discovering what we all knew a long time ago.:D
www.youtube.com/utmom2008

[Merry]

The people that visit an Elvis forum do not represent the general public.Obviously you have many more people that do not call themselves fans.Just turn on mtv or read rolling stone or your favorite radio station.This will tell you how how Elvis is viewed by the people who deal in marketing.Elvis in nowhere to be found.Of course he has young fans but he is not what the kids are listening to as they say.
Jak


In my opinion, who the kids are listening to today, some or a lot, of those artists will be gone in a year or so, as will the attitudes of today's children change, as they become more sure of themselves, thinking they are non-conformists, when in fact, they are, some copy each other. As they mature, they get to know themselves. Not needing to conform. Generally speaking, as they learn, their thoughts and attitudes change.

The young adults on this forum, from what I've read, are very sure of themselves for their age, already their own people, and extremely nice people, a pleasure to talk with, and I love to read their posts, quite frankly.

Don't think what you say is a concern, not to me, and millions (billions?) of other fans, and again, each to their own. (y)

[Merry]

I have been amazed at the young people in Youtube that were not yet born in 1977, yet they are fascinated with him. I think that it's wonderful that new generations are discovering what we all knew a long time ago.:D
www.youtube.com/utmom2008 (http://www.youtube.com/utmom2008)


Hi there (y)


I am, too. It is lovely.

My son loves Elvis' music, plus a lot of music of today. My musician friend's children feel the same. They all play instruments, and appreciate the music.

Take care,
Kim

[Merry]

Im glad you know some young people that at least respect Elvis.Having said that though Im sure you dont think Elvis is considered relevant among the majority of today's youth or culture?His music is far removed from today's scene.
Jak



As I've said earlier, his name and music is used often. Perhaps not in the "scene" you are speaking about, whereas, as I've expressed, it is a rocky place.

Certainly, again, as I've said, I'm amazed (but not surprised) in how many shows, etc., Elvis' name is mentioned. It is lovely.

[Merry]

I don't know if that's completely true. I'm 22 and I am a major Elvis fan. He is still relevant and not just to me. I think I try to take on the task that Ricardo is talking about and I really believe that most people understand the importance of Elvis Presley. I'm in college and nearly everyone that I talk to about Elvis seems to at least appreciate what he has done for music and popular culture. Elvis has more appeal than some might think. I also think young people are open minded and really interested in learning more about him.


Thanks Elvisgal, this is lovely to hear.

:hug:

Kimmi

[utmom2008]

I don't know if that's completely true. I'm 22 and I am a major Elvis fan. He is still relevant and not just to me. I think I try to take on the task that Ricardo is talking about and I really believe that most people understand the importance of Elvis Presley. I'm in college and nearly everyone that I talk to about Elvis seems to at least appreciate what he has done for music and popular culture. Elvis has more appeal than some might think. I also think young people are open minded and really interested in learning more about him.
Thanks Elvisgal...glad to hear it! I can say the same thing about my 2 grown kids and their friends. Young people are open-minded, and at the very least have a healthy respect for the icon that is "Elvis"..............
www.youtube.com/utmom2008

[cameron]

......His music is far removed from today's scene.
Jak

Got to say ; there will always be songs of love lost or love found .
IMO, there's no one that can sing a love song ,a gospel song or the inspired Patriotism of American Trilogy like Elvis.
His rock & roll my be dated ..but, the feelings he can inspire by some of these others is as true today as they ever were. His music is "timeless."
It's why even my small grandchild sits transfixed for hours watching and listening to him. :)

[jak]

Elvis' music is timeless.That however does not mean it's appreciated.It's all subjective.Believe it or not some people just dont like Elvis.Obviously many young people like Elvis.Just dont try and blow it out of proportion.We all know that Elvis is not a hot item with the majority of today's youth.Youre just trying to make yourselves believe otherwise by mentioning minor examples that dont translate to the whole picture.I havent seen any high sdchool kids driving around lately with Moody Blue blasting out of the car.
Jak

[presley31]

Elvis' music is timeless.That however does not mean it's appreciated.It's all subjective.Believe it or not some people just dont like Elvis.Obviously many young people like Elvis.Just dont try and blow it out of proportion.We all know that Elvis is not a hot item with the majority of today's youth.Youre just trying to make yourselves believe otherwise by mentioning minor examples that dont translate to the whole picture.I havent seen any high sdchool kids driving around lately with Moody Blue blasting out of the car.
Jak

l disgree jak. where l'am l do see younger people with elvis blasting out there windows. There kids here that are 8and 9 years old and love elvis music.

[jak]

l disgree jak. where l'am l do see younger people with elvis blasting out there windows. There kids here that are 8and 9 years old and love elvis music.

You think Elvis is at the forefront of today's music scene then?He is embraced by today's youth cultire?Cmon people.
Jak

[presley31]

You think Elvis is at the forefront of today's music scene then?He is embraced by today's youth cultire?Cmon people.
Jak
jak this one of the things we have to disgree or agree on:hmm:

[ksimms2]

Hey, I had a nice compliment today. one of my coworkers called me at my desk from his cell phone and said, "Kentucky Rain" is playing on the radio and I thought of you and wanted to call and say hello. He knows I'm an Elvis lover. And I said, "Thanks, that's very nice, is Elvis singing it?" and he said, "well of course, Elvis is the only one who can sing that song the best"........wasnt that sweet? (I know...off topic....but it shows that he's out there and it is being played on the radio - plus thanks to shows like Las Vegas who has Elvis song "A Little Less Conversation" as their theme song - it does bring him closer to the younger crowds.

[Diane]

I have to agree with you Jak if I'm correct in what you're saying...it's that the MAJORITY of the young aren't all that interested in Elvis today. They have their own current idols. I'm going by my teenage niece's crowd and a few others I know but all and I mean all I've come across even if they don't particularly want to listen to him, they've all said they had respect for who he was and what he did.

Diane

[cameron]

Someone said that we should "educate" the non-fans...ok, why not, but the only problem is to be labeled as a freak :)

We are already labeled as freaks. Doesn't bother me as I've been called much worse..;)

[utmom2008]

You think Elvis is at the forefront of today's music scene then?He is embraced by today's youth cultire?Cmon people.
Jak
The youth of today can not find any music to love and stick with..as they get a little older they discover in their own way what is "cool" about Elvis. They think he is alot cooler than my friends did in the early seventies. I got blasted daily for for thinking Elvis was cooler than David Cassidy, Bobby Sherman or Donny Osmond. Does anyone even know who 2 of those 3 are?? Besides...now they get to hear Elvis sing about "Viva Viagra"

[Latte]

...what does some of this have to do with the original post i wonder?
I agree with the original poster, we as fans need to educate if we have the opportunity to. why wouldnt we? I want to spread the positive.
My friends respect my views so when i tell them about elvis they really think about it. Im not sure to what degree all the time but some of their negative views do change.

[Merry]

...what does some of this have to do with the original post i wonder?
I agree with the original poster, we as fans need to educate if we have the opportunity to. why wouldnt we? I want to spread the positive.
My friends respect my views so when i tell them about elvis they really think about it. Im not sure to what degree all the time but some of their negative views do change.



Well said, Latte (y)

Kim

[Getlo]

Elvis needs more positive media exposure to compensate for the bad effects of the drug issue on him.

I don't think so.

The drug revelations have been around for just over 30 years or so. The main damage from these was done in 1977 and in the ensuing few years.

Most non-fans accept that he was a drug user.

Those that refuse to like him based on his addictions aren't going to have their minds changed by anything EPE would do.

The vast majority of fans and non-fans couldn't give two hoots about the drugs, and do not seriously judge the man for them.

Unless some more drug or sex revelations come up, then the damage has already been done. And, with the passage of time, the impact of these revelations has leveled off.

[utmom2008]

I don't think so.

The drug revelations have been around for just over 30 years or so. The main damage from these was done in 1977 and in the ensuing few years.

Most non-fans accept that he was a drug user.

Those that refuse to like him based on his addictions aren't going to have their minds changed by anything EPE would do.

The vast majority of fans and non-fans couldn't give two hoots about the drugs, and do not seriously judge the man for them.

Unless some more drug or sex revelations come up, then the damage has already been done. And, with the passage of time, the impact of these revelations has leveled off.
Well said! Judging by what the media throws at us today about the celebs, Elvis and his over usage of meds is pretty tame. They seem to remember less of the drugs, and more of the fact that he died overweight. Even after some appreciate his music, his humble beginnings and such...they still have a mental pic of Elvis and how he looked in June of 77. I always tell people to go home and watch the 68 special...then we will talk :D