Do you think Elvis really loved Priscilla

[marina]

I think he loved her, but was he "in love" with her and did he marry her because he felt obliged to and If he was so distraught after she left, why didn't he fight for her?

[Stryx]

I think Elvis loved Priscilla but he was not in love with her.

[LianaKaralivanou]

I believe that he loved her. After all she was the mother of his only child. But I don't think he was really the "husband type", if you know what I mean.

[Rising Sun]

I think Elvis truly loved Priscilla and I think he really married her because he wanted to share his life with her and found a family with her...
In the later years, I think it became more and more difficult for their relationship to be kept because Elvis was on tour most of the time and IMO they just lived in two different worlds later...
I think even if he would have faught for her more, nobody could've brought Cilla back...She just wanted to live her "own" life IMO
(y)

Rising Sun

[ksimms2]

Elvis probably loved her - in his Elvis way. More like wanted to possess her. But of course he would not give up his other women. Elvis wanted his women to stay home and be faithful, while he ran around on them - not fair to any woman. If he loved her so much - he would have changed and been faithful. I think Elvis should not have ever married because of this........I'm not blaming either party because as I've said before - Elvis had millions of women throwing themselves at him - how many men could resist? From Cilla's point of view - how much could she take? At some point I'm sure she had a decision to make - turn her head and ignore it - or get out of it. He was the great Elvis Presley - but still human.......god bless his soul......all this talk about his life ups/downs has really depressed me.....(from the other threads....sorry)

[Dovey]

I think he loved her, but was he "in love" with her and did he marry her because he felt obliged to and If he was so distraught after she left, why didn't he fight for her?

(y)(y) can not say it any better than this!! Dovey

[ReGina_89]

I think Elvis loved her but he loved other things more than her like the stage, fans, women in general... a man should love his wife more than anything for things to work out... Elvis wasnt the marrying kind

[riley]

I sure think he loved her with all his hearth.

[Burning_Love]

Yes, he loved her.

He once said "She was the closest thing to me, after my mother" (Quote, Marty Lacker).

[Burning_Love]

I think he loved her, but was he "in love" with her and did he marry her because he felt obliged to and If he was so distraught after she left, why didn't he fight for her?

You a correct in my books !
Well said (y)(y)

[Diane]

Marina, you have the same thoughts as I've had all along. I have no doubt that he did love her initially but if he was "in love" with her, why didn't he change his lifestyle for her? She didn't appear to be "first" in his life that's for sure.

Diane

[presley31]

l think he loved her, but wasn' the marrying kind.

[elvis himselvis]

Elvis really loved her and was really sad when she left him...don't forget they were almost back together in 1974,but she wanted the MM to leave,but he couldn't do that...

[Getlo]

don't forget they were almost back together in 1974

Where is this from? If it's from Cilla's book ... it's been a while since I read it.

[presley31]

Elvis really loved her and was really sad when she left him...don't forget they were almost back together in 1974,but she wanted the MM to leave,but he couldn't do that...

I did read that to elsewhere and not cilla's book, don't know how true it may be.

[MissyM]

Love is really confusing. And I don't think it's black and white. A lot of things come into play. I try to reason it out like this. My father wasn't the best father. I know he loved me but only to a degree. So I think on a scale of one to ten, he loved me maybe a 4. For reasons I won't go into he just was not capable of loving me to a higher degree. Things get in the way, like people circumstances, upbringing and some people are just what I think are handicapped in the loving area.
I think Pricilla loved Elvis, but I give her about a 4. She was in love with being Elvis's wife and all that it brought her. Like being in love with love itself. But when she found out what being his wife would really be like she didn't want to hang. I also think she was highly sexual and not having her needs met made her love stop growing.
I also think Elvis loved her but maybe a 3. But not enough to marry her. Marriage was also part of an obligation he felt to her and his ingrained idea to do the right thing by her, and having no other choice at the time.
I think at some point when reality set in their love was stalemated. It became stagnant and could not possibly grow into a mature love. Hey reality can suck! Been married a long time and I know.
What got in the way of their love growing?: Elvis's need to have a women who was like his mother, him thinking that relationships are like the old days, his insecurities, and his passion to entertain. For Pricilla, the stark reality of who he was at times, the fact that being "Elvis's wife" was not all that great, and the fact that she wanted as always her own fame. (when she says identity to me that equals fame, because Elvis was allowing her freedoms)
I think what bothers me most is seeing the candid pictures of them. They seem happy. I think they had happy times but Lisa was the one perpetuating alot of them. I wonder if Elvis thought that those times were enough.
And it's so ironic to me, now that years have passed, what originally motivated Pricilla to be with Elvis, (being his wife and having fame) is what she has. For the most part to others, that is who she is.

[presley31]

Love is really confusing. And I don't think it's black and white. A lot of things come into play. I try to reason it out like this. My father wasn't the best father. I know he loved me but only to a degree. So I think on a scale of one to ten, he loved me maybe a 4. For reasons I won't go into he just was not capable of loving me to a higher degree. Things get in the way, like people circumstances, upbringing and some people are just what I think are handicapped in the loving area.
I think Pricilla loved Elvis, but I give her about a 4. She was in love with being Elvis's wife and all that it brought her. Like being in love with love itself. But when she found out what being his wife would really be like she didn't want to hang. I also think she was highly sexual and not having her needs met made her love stop growing.
I also think Elvis loved her but maybe a 3. But not enough to marry her. Marriage was also part of an obligation he felt to her and his ingrained idea to do the right thing by her, and having no other choice at the time.
I think at some point when reality set in their love was stalemated. It became stagnant and could not possibly grow into a mature love. Hey reality can suck! Been married a long time and I know.
What got in the way of their love growing?: Elvis's need to have a women who was like his mother, him thinking that relationships are like the old days, his insecurities, and his passion to entertain. For Pricilla, the stark reality of who he was at times, the fact that being "Elvis's wife" was not all that great, and the fact that she wanted as always her own fame. (when she says identity to me that equals fame, because Elvis was allowing her freedoms)
I think what bothers me most is seeing the candid pictures of them. They seem happy. I think they had happy times but Lisa was the one perpetuating alot of them. I wonder if Elvis thought that those times were enough.
And it's so ironic to me, now that years have passed, what originally motivated Pricilla to be with Elvis, (being his wife and having fame) is what she has. For the most part to others, that is who she is.

Thank you MissyM l enjoyed reading that:D

[jatta-tcb]

Elvis really loved her and was really sad when she left him...don't forget they were almost back together in 1974,but she wanted the MM to leave,but he couldn't do that...
this is new to me :blink:

But to the topic.. I think Elvis really loved her. There is no doubt about it.

[Joe Car]

Lets face it, Priscilla's own thoughts on how she wanted her life to go, were the complete opposite of what Elvis wanted in a wife. She wanted a career and fame, he wanted a stay at home wife and mother, neither were really wrong, it just was two completely different ways of thinking. Priscilla had to have known after being with Elvis for several years, his mind-set as far as what he expected from his wife. I think once he started in Vegas, and big stars as well as influencial people were coming back stage and commenting on what a knockout Priscilla was, and that she should go into movies, it kind of planted ideas into her head, who knows, perhaps fullfilling a childhood dream.

[MissyM]

You're very welcome P-31! Hope you are having a nice day.
Good points Joe.

[Diane]

I'm in total agreement with both MissyM and Joe, except for one little thing Joe. I think all the ideas that Priscilla had in her head was put there by her mother.

Diane

[MissyM]

Well, I never really thought of it that way Diane. Why do you think so?? Curious here??

[Diane]

Again I'm one who's being influenced by a book....Child Bride and by the way Ann Beaulieu strikes me when I watch her on Elvis by The Presley's etc. I've always had the feeling she controls them all. I have no proof, just my own gut feeling.

We've dissected Elvis and his family but so little is known about Priscilla's and I think it might be interesting to dig a little more there and it just might shed a whole new light of a lot of issues being discussed.

Diane

[MissyM]

I've not read Child Bride. Having a hard time finding a copy at our libraries. I kind of know what you mean. When I watched the show, there was just something about her, I couldn't put my finger on. I thought the interaction between Pricilla and her mother seem strained??????

[presley31]

I've not read Child Bride. Having a hard time finding a copy at our libraries. I kind of know what you mean. When I watched the show, there was just something about her, I couldn't put my finger on. I thought the interaction between Pricilla and her mother seem strained??????

l don't know anything about priscilla and her mother relationship, but it doesn't seem like it a close one. I know from personal reasons that when find out things from your past they can affect you very much in the future. I do believe that piscilla knew how elvis felt about losing his mother and than priscilla did lose her father, maybe that helped them bond.

[franny]

I think Elvis loved Priscilla, I don't understand why some think he didn't! It seems strange that he would bring her to Graceland and marry her, if he didn't love her...:hmm:

I think they just grew apart, different lifestyles and how does anyone know he didn't try and get her back?

franny

[MissyM]

I don't think Elvis would have taken her back. I don't think that for one moment. Just my strong opinion. I don't think he would have taken a wife knowing how many other men she was with. Maybe if he got melancoly he wished for the days gone by, but to have taken real action on it-no I just can't think so.

[presley31]

I think Elvis loved Priscilla, I don't understand why some think he didn't! It seems strange that he would bring her to Graceland and marry her, if he didn't love her...:hmm:

I think they just grew apart, different lifestyles and how does anyone know he didn't try and get her back?

franny

I always wondered the same thing franny:hmm:

[cameron]

I've read Child Bride and one can get a whole different perspective after reading that . ;)

Some good some bad. But, thought provoking.
Try to read it.

No, I don't think Elvis was in love with Priscilla.
I think he married her because it was "expected of him."
Plus he had Cilla's dad & Parker saying it had to be .

[Getlo]

No, I don't think Elvis was in love with Priscilla.
I think he married her because it was "expected of him."
Plus he had Cilla's dad & Parker saying it had to be .

I agree with cameron here.

Stop the presses!!

[Diane]

In Child Bride there was mention of Ann being a star-struck person and the family has sure lived way beyond a Captain' of the army's pension since Elvis died haven't they?

I can't swallow the excuse for letting Priscilla to visit Graceland and then later live there before she was even out of high school that they were "afraid to ruin her life".

I also thought there was a strained interaction between Priscilla and her mother and there always has been more so between Lisa and Priscilla but that seems to have gotten a bit better. I always have the feeling they muzzled Lisa as best they could....not an easy task I'm sure. :lol: Now that is the person I would most like to read a book by!

I never felt it was fair to dig so much into Elvis's family closet and leave the Beaulieus looking squeaky clean without proof that they were.

Diane

[riley]

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I also think she was highly sexual and not having her needs met made her love stop growing.


end quote MissyM


Here you hit the nail right.

Pris and Elvis were sexually not on same levels.
That brought very soon problems in their marriage

[suspicious_mind]

I think Elvis loved Priscilla, I don't understand why some think he didn't! It seems strange that he would bring her to Graceland and marry her, if he didn't love her...:hmm:

franny


Nice quote...Ann Margaret said the exact same thing. ;)


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I think he loved her at first - but love changes sometimes...people grow out of love if its not real and i think maybe thats what happened.

[franny]

Thanks, also Joe Esposito said the same quote...(y)

franny

[cprimm]

I think that Elvis loved Priscilla. I think Priscilla just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Elvis needed someone to talk to in Germany since his mother had just passed away. Being a 14-year-old girl in awe of Elvis, she could easily listen to him and comfort him. He thought that he "could raise" her to be the wife he wanted, but as she grew up, she had wants and desires that did not fit into the life style of Elvis. It would take a very special person to stay with him as his wife and bow down before him as he wanted. That came from his southern raising. Priscilla just could not do that. In later years, I think he tried to get her back, but she didn't want his lifestyle. Things are a lot different (his fame) now than when he was trying to get her back.

[goodelvisgirl]

well i think elvis loved her but maybee the love changed over the years and i don't think he was the husband type but she must have been special to be the only mrs presley but elvis could have married her out of obligation tohught i doubt it elvis coulkd just have picked another woman

[presley31]

well i think elvis loved her but maybee the love changed over the years and i don't think he was the husband type but she must have been special to be the only mrs presley but elvis could have married her out of obligation tohught i doubt it elvis coulkd just have picked another woman


wasn't just elvis that changed, priscilla grew up and those two just fall apart. I can't see anyone loving with someone that long and not except to get married sometime.

[riley]

perhaps him raising her was not a very good beginning for a man /women relationship.

Maybe he did love her but the love was different ...
More like brother/sister or even father/daughter...

Perhaps this is an explanation why their lovelife wasn't that great and not too Priscilla's satisfaction.

[Tommy]

Yes Elvis loved Priscilla, he never stopped loving her.

[Jailhouse-Rocker]

Elvis did love Priscilla .... i mean .... she was the woman that he stayed faithful to for the longest ;)

i believed that he loved her, but maybe he married too young, he just wasn't ready to settle ... although that brings up the question : would he ever have settled?? because i personally don't think he would've

woah look at me rambling off-topic. So in conclusion, :D i think that Elvis did in fact love Priscilla very much.

[cameron]

Nope !! I don't believe Elvis was ever in love with her.
I do believe he cared a lot for her; as the mother of his child.

Cilla grew up and needed a husband .
Elvis just couldn't seem to give her that. IMO.;)

[presley31]

Elvis did love Priscilla .... i mean .... she was the woman that he stayed faithful to for the longest ;)

i believed that he loved her, but maybe he married too young, he just wasn't ready to settle ... although that brings up the question : would he ever have settled?? because i personally don't think he would've

woah look at me rambling off-topic. So in conclusion, :D i think that Elvis did in fact love Priscilla very much.

l agree with everything you said(y)(y)

[Getlo]

Nope !! I don't believe Elvis was ever in love with her.
I do believe he cared a lot for her; as the mother of his child.

Cilla grew up and needed a husband .
Elvis just couldn't seem to give her that. IMO.;)

Shock, horror ... I agree entirely with this!

As I said, Cilla was Elvis' project. He was never in love with her ... he was never in love with any woman, not the way being in love should be, anyway.

[velasca1]

I think it started off that way....he fell in love with her early on...since he met her right after his mom died and they used to talk on the phone for hours...they were both so young and he was so far away from home...

but remember...she looked just like (or very much like) his big crush ---Debra Paget...that's why he first went for her.

I think he did at the beginning...but then he just couldn't settle down and she just hung in there and he felt obligated to marry her...

just my thoughts...

[utmom2008]

Where did you read that? That's a new one for me....:surpriced:

[Suzan]

I think initially he loved her but by the late 60's that changed on both their parts as Vernon Presley is quoted as saying that they were going to divorce.
I don't believe that they were planning on getting back together in 1974, several people (those that liked Pris and those that didn't) have said she called him after a fight w/Stone and asked to come back and Elvis refused her.
I think that he also at one time loved her more then she loved him...I've heard other's who were close to them say the same.

[ReGina_89]

I agree with Suzan they were two VERY different people they loved the idea of eachother but to be together forever u needed more than that at the start Elvis loved her very much and i think that she was the woman he like most.. he was never in love... a man that has that much women IMO cant fall in love easily and he didnt!

[riley]

QUOTE Suzan


I think initially he loved her but by the late 60's that changed on both their parts as Vernon Presley is quoted as saying that they were going to divorce.
I don't believe that they were planning on getting back together in 1974, several people (those that liked Pris and those that didn't) have said she called him after a fight w/Stone and asked to come back and Elvis refused her.
I think that he also at one time loved her more then she loved him...I've heard other's who were close to them say the same.




end quote




I agree here for the full 100 percent

[MissyM]

I think Elvis loved her as much as he could given who he was, what he expected and the circumstances he was in. The very immature love they had never matured. It was stopped by so many things.

[ksimms2]

Elvis did love Priscilla .... i mean .... she was the woman that he stayed faithful to for the longest ;)

i believed that he loved her, but maybe he married too young, he just wasn't ready to settle ... although that brings up the question : would he ever have settled?? because i personally don't think he would've

woah look at me rambling off-topic. So in conclusion, :D i think that Elvis did in fact love Priscilla very much.

I don't think he was EVER faithful to her - unless she was right there with him. Elvis was never faithful long, that's for sure. I don't know if he TRULY loved her - or loved the idea of being married with a family.....

[presley31]

I don't think he was EVER faithful to her - unless she was right there with him. Elvis was never faithful long, that's for sure. I don't know if he TRULY loved her - or loved the idea of being married with a family.....

kelly elvis was faithful when they got married it was priscilla who went out and had the affair so elvis went out and did the same.

[ksimms2]

kelly elvis was faithful when they got married it was priscilla who went out and had the affair so elvis went out and did the same.

Jen, are you kidding? He was messing around with all his co stars on his movie sets and at every show he performed at. I'm not sure where you get this info from? Not trying to be mean or anything....but it's well known that he cheated all the time. And to say Priscilla cheated first is just crazy. Priscilla started cheating after she finally gave up on what she hoped would be a wonderful and happy life with a DEVOTED husband. I don't blame her at all for that - and I'm not even a big Pris fan.

[presley31]

Jen, are you kidding? He was messing around with all his co stars on his movie sets and at every show he performed at. I'm not sure where you get this info from? Not trying to be mean or anything....but it's well known that he cheated all the time. And to say Priscilla cheated first is just crazy. Priscilla started cheating after she finally gave up on what she hoped would be a wonderful and happy life with a DEVOTED husband. I don't blame her at all for that - and I'm not even a big Pris fan.

Elvis was cheating before they got married, Elvis was faithful in the begining of the marriage but it was priscilla out messing around. I read that in careless love.

[riley]

quote Ksimms2


Priscilla started cheating after she finally gave up on what she hoped would be a wonderful and happy life with a DEVOTED husband. I don't blame her at all for that - and I'm not even a big Pris fan.


end quote


then she "finally" gave up very early in her marriage.:lmfao: Lisa was only a few weeks old, and Pris and Elvis were not married for one year to be exact...:hmm:

[presley31]

Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him. Elvis was a loving, sincere man who respected his home and family. His career took him away from us and being so young and naive I thought wrongly that he just didn’t care anymore. Had I known then what I do now about this business, I would have been more patient, more able to help him."

~ Priscilla Presley, from a California local TV show in 1987

[MissyM]

You know I sure am not Pricilla biggest fan. But having a husband who won't be intimate is heart-breaking. I'm not going to justify affairs for that at all. If you want another man or women, get out of the marriage first! Personally, I think they were both wrong in the way they handled things. But seeing that I'm old as dirt, I know it happens alot.

[Donut]

Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him. ~ Priscilla Presley, from a California local TV show in 1987

Had that lie detector the batteries on when he passed the test that day?

[presley31]

quote Ksimms2


Priscilla started cheating after she finally gave up on what she hoped would be a wonderful and happy life with a DEVOTED husband. I don't blame her at all for that - and I'm not even a big Pris fan.


end quote


then she "finally" gave up very early in her marriage.:lmfao: Lisa was only a few weeks old, and Pris and Elvis were not married for one year to be exact...:hmm:

agreed riley, she rushed into a affiair very quickly(n)

[MissyM]

P-31 is there a link for that interview????

[presley31]

http://www.elvislightedcandle.org/theman/lovemarriage.html

I knew from here l could find it more faster than seaching on the internet for it.

[kellyelvis]

I think elvis loved her but in his way. But i think elvis loved her more as a friend than a lover. i think he felt a bit forced into marry her, and maybe he felt a bit resentful at doing what everybody else wants. Maybe if ppl asked him for once how he felt. Remember when elvis met Cill he not long lost his mum so i think he just needed a friend more than anything. Elvis was Elvis so anyone in a r/ship with him needs to accept that and i believe elvis knew something werent right as if he knew something wld go wrong cos didnt he ask for a trial separation when cilla was pregnant. could he see that maybe this wasnt toatally right. Elvis was the kind to marry for love and looked for someone that loved him for him. And cilla gradually grew away from him. He just didnt want to be alone. He was hurt when she left cos inside maybe he knew it wld happen but chose to ignore it. Goes to show should only marry if u are certain that one is The One. All elvis got was crtisism when he just wanted to be Himself not a show pices something to win like a trophy. It shouldnt be get what u can out of him then leave.

[Lion]

Of course Elvis loved Priscilla. They were together for many years, married and had a child.

It didn´t work out for them, and that is the case for many couples.

They led a very different life, which I think is hard for most of us to fully understand. We were not there, we did not live their lives, we never walked in their shoes. They probably both made mistakes. But I still fully believe that Elvis loved Priscilla.

[maria1073]

I think Elvis loved Priscilla but he was not in love with her.

[riley]

I would like to ask here an adittional and similar question

Do you think Priscilla loved Elvis??

[Diane]

Not in my mind....nope. I think Elvis was very taken with her looks initially and I believe he loved her in a way, just not "in love" with her.


Diane

[marina]

I don't think Priscilla really loved Elvis, she was too young to know what love was, I'm sure she was infatuated with him like any girl would be, she happened to be in the right place at the right time. I also think that Elvis was infatuated with her, I don't think he was "in love" with her but I think he loved her, no doubt about that, but with Elvis I think it was a case of wanting something that he knew was going to be a challenge to get, and she was a challenge.....and I think it snowballed from there.

[Getlo]

Do you think Priscilla loved Elvis??

Inasmuch as a 14-year-old child can be "in love"? Then, yes.

But later, when Cilla realised she wasn't getting it all her own way, then I'd have to say no.

But who really knows anyway?

[riley]

IMO one of her most sincere interviews.
Never ever did she came back to these confesions

[Burning_Love]

I think Elvis was in love with her, but he grew out of love.
I get the impression he got bored quickly.
Elvis married her because he loved her, right ?

It's all too confusing, i guess we'll never know.

[Diane]

If what Priscilla had to say in that interview that Elvis was faithful and she fell first then she sure screwed up big time didn't she? Sounds (if true) that he had even intention of trying to make a go of his marriage. It was well known that he did want a family life.

Again if the above is true, no wonder he didn't have any faith in woman and was never faithful to anyone again. It's very possible too that he never felt anyone cared for him as himself afterwards and not the image.

We all know he had plenty of relationships before he got married but although Priscilla was living at Graceland, he never gave her an engagement ring until just before the wedding.....doesn't that make you wonder about whether he wanted to marry her or as some have said was forced to and then tried to make the best of it?

Diane

[presley31]

I think Elvis was in love with her, but he grew out of love.
I get the impression he got bored quickly.
Elvis married her because he loved her, right ?

It's all too confusing, i guess we'll never know.

I think elvis loved her till the end but priscilla grow up and become her own person and moved on without elvis.

[presley31]

If what Priscilla had to say in that interview that Elvis was faithful and she fell first then she sure screwed up big time didn't she? Sounds (if true) that he had even intention of trying to make a go of his marriage. It was well known that he did want a family life.

Again if the above is true, no wonder he didn't have any faith in woman and was never faithful to anyone again. It's very possible too that he never felt anyone cared for him as himself afterwards and not the image.

We all know he had plenty of relationships before he got married but although Priscilla was living at Graceland, he never gave her an engagement ring until just before the wedding.....doesn't that make you wonder about whether he wanted to marry her or as some have said was forced to and then tried to make the best of it?

Diane

l can't see any man being forced to get married, but elvis wasn't a marrying kind IMO. He loved woman to much to be settled with just one.

[Burning_Love]

l can't see any man being forced to get married, but elvis wasn't a marrying kind IMO. He loved woman to much to be settled with just one.


I agree with you on this statment.

And Diane, yours too (y)

I have very mixed opinions !

[Donut]

How could she say Elvis never cheated on her until after she left him? Didn´t she leave after christmas of 71?
He was with Kathy Westmoreland and Barbara Leigh long before this.
I wonder what she wanted to make us believe this time with that interview this time. Never ceases to amaze me this woman :blink:...

[presley31]

How could she say Elvis never cheated on her until after she left him? Didn´t she leave after christmas of 71?
He was with Kathy Westmoreland and Barbara Leigh long before this.
I wonder what she wanted to make us believe this time with that interview this time. Never ceases to amaze me this woman :blink:...

who knows what to believe:doh:

[Diane]

I forgot about that Donut, and I've forgotten what year they were married...1967? It's really impossible to believe anything that woman says....and many others who change their stories from time to time.

Diane

[presley31]

she left elvis in 72 according to elvis what happend book.

[cameron]

This paragraph, from an interview with Cilla, (thanks for the link, Jen) is why I believe she loved Elvis:


"Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him. Elvis was a loving, sincere man who respected his home and family. His career took him away from us and being so young and naive I thought wrongly that he just didn’t care anymore. Had I known then what I do now about this business, I would have been more patient, more able to help him."
~ Priscilla Presley, from a California local TV show in 1987

I remember this too. I thought everyone knew this .It's why I've never brought it up before . :blink:
IF he passed a lie detector test , why does everyone refuse to believe him?? This is not just anyone saying this ...this is his ex-wife .(y)

[presley31]

We just had a hard time believing things when someone tells to many lies. Not bashing her either, but telling the turth.

[cameron]

Ok, I can sure understand that. (y)

I guess I always believed because so many other times, she tried to make herself look so good. ;)

[MissyM]

Well first you'd have to believe the women who said they were having an affair with Elvis during the marriage. Anyone could say it. Unless there is someone who can give me definative proof, it is talk. Kathy Westmoreland has said things that simply make no sense at all to me. Elvis was friends with many women but that does not always translate to an affair. My husband has been in bands for 30 years. If I believed all the rumors, gossip, and thing that some people told me, I'd have been divorced a long time ago. Oh my gosh, you should here some of the wild things I was told. I highly suspect there are jealous people out there that like to stir the pot. Don't get me wrong, I was no fool either but it's all part of the whole scene and you have to take alot with a grain of salt.

[presley31]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIOoV9Fa-vc

found this about sonny and joe talking about the affair

[cameron]

Thanks P31. I remember this too.
Like many things, I wouldn't have necessarilly have believed it, just because they said it.

Priscilla is another story.

[Diane]

Now see Jen, Joe said that Elvis was seeing other woman while they were married and that Priscilla was fed up with it and started seeing Mike Stone....so why did she claim she was the first one who cheated later on.....she boggles my mind that one!

Diane

[presley31]

Now see Jen, Joe said that Elvis was seeing other woman while they were married and that Priscilla was fed up with it and started seeing Mike Stone....so why did she claim she was the first one who cheated later on.....she boggles my mind that one!

Diane
simple enough she lied:doh:

[Diane]

I think so too Jen, he unfortunately was in the habit of seeing more than one woman at a time.

Diane

[presley31]

sometimes l wonder if elvis could be faithful with anybody?? he doesn't seem like he can fight the temption that was always handed to him.

[Diane]

No I do think he was very weak in that way Jen. What I can't understand about Priscilla in that interview though is why she said what she did when normally she is always trying to whitewash herself. Sometimes I wonder if she isn't on something too.

Diane

[presley31]

No I do think he was very weak in that way Jen. What I can't understand about Priscilla in that interview though is why she said what she did when normally she is always trying to whitewash herself. Sometimes I wonder if she isn't on something too.

Diane

you know how l feel about priscilla, but its just seems to be she trying to make herself look good and not accepting she's done wrong too. Not sure why she did that interview bit, but she just made her self look bad once agin by not amiting the turth. If you can't be honest with others how can you be honest with yourself:hmm:

[MissyM]

I wonder if it has something to do with Lisa. They had ruff times. And Lisa knew about what Cilla had done. Maybe Pricilla thought it best to say that for Lisa's sake. But the women still confused me. She wants privacy, but she wanted to be an actress. She wants her identity, but throws her mug out there to promote EPE. She wanted Elvis to rest in peace but she wrote Elvis and Me. Need I go on?????? Personally I think she always wanted "her" fame and fortune. I won't go so far as to say it motivated her to attach herself to Elvis (only she knows). But I wonder at times. Being Elvis's wife was not enough fame and fortune for her. And the price was too high for such little return. Oh but one more thing, her saying she couldn't have a life was not true. Elvis did start letting her wear her hair and dress the way she wanted. And she also did get to do things. But my problem is that just when he did, she stepped on his trust. That is the part that bothers me. And Elvis was always a bit untrusting, jealous, and insecure.

[cameron]

Well first you'd have to believe the women who said they were having an affair with Elvis during the marriage. Anyone could say it. Unless there is someone who can give me definative proof, it is talk. Kathy Westmoreland has said things that simply make no sense at all to me. Elvis was friends with many women but that does not always translate to an affair. My husband has been in bands for 30 years. If I believed all the rumors, gossip, and thing that some people told me, I'd have been divorced a long time ago. Oh my gosh, you should here some of the wild things I was told. I highly suspect there are jealous people out there that like to stir the pot. Don't get me wrong, I was no fool either but it's all part of the whole scene and you have to take alot with a grain of salt.


To me, "cheating " is having sexual relations with another besides your spouse .
Big differencefrom sex and "being seen with someone....."
Agree with you, Missy .

[Getlo]

"Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage.


How stultifyingly naive can this woman be???

[presley31]

To me, "cheating " is having sexual relations with another besides your spouse .
Big differencefrom sex and "being seen with someone....."
Agree with you, Missy .

agreed cameron(y)

[Tony Trout]

I think, at first, Elvis did love Priscilla but as time wore on the "bloom fell off the rose" and he lost interest in her...especially after she had Lisa.

[Suzan]

QUOTE Suzan


I think initially he loved her but by the late 60's that changed on both their parts as Vernon Presley is quoted as saying that they were going to divorce.
I don't believe that they were planning on getting back together in 1974, several people (those that liked Pris and those that didn't) have said she called him after a fight w/Stone and asked to come back and Elvis refused her.
I think that he also at one time loved her more then she loved him...I've heard other's who were close to them say the same.




end quote




I agree here for the full 100 percent

;)

I think Pris story has changed soo much over the years that again I say I don't believe anything she says. I think she was there for what it could get her in the end. I do think Elvis loved her at one time, long b4 he proposed.
He didn't control her as much as she claims he did, you can hear him making fun of her outfit in one clip...she stated he didn't like prints on her and yet we've all seen pics of her wearing prints while with him, including, as Elvis put it, her "mumu" dress in Hawaii.
Also by all accts. including her own, she's a very strong-willed woman, everyone around them has said that even though Elvis had specific ideas on women and wives, he could not control Pris nor did he attempt to....that's just another one of her versions.

I think the 2 women Elvis truly loved, heart and soul, w/o ? was his mom and Lisa.

[Suzan]

Yes Pris was w/someone shortly after Lisa was born and I've heard w/other's prior to even marrying Elvis, but again we'll never truly know one way or the other, but by her own admission in her book, she to had affairs.:)

Yes I do believe he loved Ann, but again not as much as needed to want to leave PRis and marry her. I think he made promises to Pris parents and felt he had to live up to those promises, not saying he didn't love Pris, I believe he loved her a lot, more so then she did him, just saying he may not have at that point wanted to marry her but felt obligated...one of the guys said that it was similar scenario w/Anita Wood, that he'd promised marriage, etc...etc...etc... to get his way...and then later would change his mind.

[Suzan]

Yes I do feel she has tried to change history (and perhaps to some degree has) to cast herself in a great light, and placing the blame either on Elvis, his career, or the fans. I think a marriage takes 2 to tango, it cannot be all one persons fault, nor can one person always be right and always be telling the truth, truth is perception to a degree but w/Pris it seems like she wants us to believe her story and her story only, and when that story changes, well, to me she is not a credible source and at times I think she wants to be like Elvis, you know what I mean?
For example, she has said that Elvis had "hangers on" and "yes men" YET in a recent interview w/Celebrity magazine (A Scientology mag interviews w/Celebs) she says that she doesn't want "negativity" or "negative people" around her, well what's that...Yes people...so how can she say that about him when she is doing EXACT same. My point is, she's saying things about Elvis and I think she wanted those things for herself, to be in control and have what Elvis had in that way and she has succeeded...I hope what I'm trying to say makes sense. lol

[Diane]

If I'm right Suzan, what I think you're saying is that Priscilla was the one who wanted the most control over Elvis rather than the other way around but he wasn't going for it and I agree. A lot of woman think that marriage will change a man but it never does and also having his baby...you can't change anyone's basic nature and she didn't know that. You have to take and love them for what they are or forget it.

Diane

[Suzan]

If I'm right Suzan, what I think you're saying is that Priscilla was the one who wanted the most control over Elvis rather than the other way around but he wasn't going for it and I agree. A lot of woman think that marriage will change a man but it never does and also having his baby...you can't change anyone's basic nature and she didn't know that. You have to take and love them for what they are or forget it.

Diane

Hi Diane! :D:D
Yes to an extent that is what I was trying to say, but more and I just can't find the words to convey lol.
I think she knew by 1966-67 what she was getting into, I think she had her own agenda by that time. :)

But yes I agree w/u, I think she did want to change him, wanted to be the one in control and his personality was such that no he would not go for it, nor do I believe her acct. that he controlled her as much as she claims he did, the bs about her clothes is disproven by his comments and by photos. Even today, look at her following trends, in particular that hairdo w/her hair all in pins when she was almost 60 yrs. old, she looked ridiculous...you know what I mean? lol

[Diane]

I'm in 100% agreement with you Suzan! (y)

Diane

[Suzan]

I'm in 100% agreement with you Suzan! (y)

Diane

:D
I'm so glad you understood what I was trying to say and not jumping me for it.:D :hug: Thank you!:notworthy

[presley31]

Hi Diane! :D:D
Yes to an extent that is what I was trying to say, but more and I just can't find the words to convey lol.
I think she knew by 1966-67 what she was getting into, I think she had her own agenda by that time. :)

But yes I agree w/u, I think she did want to change him, wanted to be the one in control and his personality was such that no he would not go for it, nor do I believe her acct. that he controlled her as much as she claims he did, the bs about her clothes is disproven by his comments and by photos. Even today, look at her following trends, in particular that hairdo w/her hair all in pins when she was almost 60 yrs. old, she looked ridiculous...you know what I mean? lol

I think priscilla looks great for her age. I never walked in her shoes shoes who l'am to judge. l done things that would make priscilla look like angel but you don't see people talking about my crap. I guess what it all boils down to some like some hate her that will never change.

[Suzan]

Then you've not seen that pic...like all of us she's had her bad (not looking so great) days. Yes we've all made mistakes, but we don't all CHOOSE to live in the public eye...she could have gone away quite quietly but by her own acct. she chose not to...that was her choice...therefore, like Elvis it leaves her open to discussions. She still today could be quietly away some place yet there she is putting her face out there again w/anything connected to Elvis.
Never said I hated her...just don't agree w/her changing of history and making him look like some ogre when her actions weren't all that stellar, espescially in the treatment of their daughter.
That's my opinion only.:)

[presley31]

Then you've not seen that pic...like all of us she's had her bad (not looking so great) days. Yes we've all made mistakes, but we don't all CHOOSE to live in the public eye...she could have gone away quite quietly but by her own acct. she chose not to...that was her choice...therefore, like Elvis it leaves her open to discussions. She still today could be quietly away some place yet there she is putting her face out there again w/anything connected to Elvis.
Never said I hated her...just don't agree w/her changing of history and making him look like some ogre when her actions weren't all that stellar, espescially in the treatment of their daughter.
That's my opinion only.:)

l agree with what you saying, she shouldn't be living off the presley name, she should of stuck with her familys name. She needs to get her facts straight and stop taking the spotlight, she isn't elvis wife but his ex wife, she needs to remember who hurt who and who left who:hmm:

[Suzan]

I agree with that, espescially the last few points. :D

[The King's Queen]

My, my, my...:supriced:lol, I have been gone way too long! :lmfao:

You guys know my mindset on the Pris issue. I think that Elvis was intrigued by Priscilla...she was young, he admired her looks, he felt he could mold her into his ideal woman...but only because she misrepresented her intentions. :supriced:

After reading through this thread, I see that many of you seem to share my thoughts about her Mother...that, IMO, is the core of the problem...both for Pris and Elvis! Ann layed out the plan, Pris followed through with it. The only problem with all of that was when Pris "came of age" so to speak and decided that she had enough leverage to be able to leave Elvis and still have the kind of life she wanted. That leverage was, of course, Lisa. And I believe that is part of the reason for the mother - daughter conflict that plagued their relationship for so long.

Did he love her? :hmm: I guess that depends on your definition of 'love'. I do believe that if she ever told the truth (and I mean IF :blink:), she did so when she admitted that she strayed FIRST. I know that he was not faithful during the courtship, but I do believe that he was faithful during the first ten or so months of the marriage. Priscilla began her first affair when Lisa was only a few weeks old, I believe. And when Elvis learned of her infidelity, all bets were off! Don't get me wrong....I am not saying that he would have been faithful long term either...but I do think that any type of 'love' he felt for her went down the hole when her first affair came out. She begged forgiveness, and they attempted to patch it up...but I don't think that he could get past it. The rest is history....

I honestly do not believe that he grieved over her leaving. I believe he had a big ol' bruise on his ego that probably hurt like heck...:!: He felt that she belittled his image by leaving him for a karate instructor. And then she added salt to the wound by comparing the two men publicly...:doh: I personally doubt that LOVE was the reason for their marriage...he was obligated. He made promises, and Priscilla's dear ol' step-dad was not about to let him weasle out of keeping those promises! And so, all of these years later, Elvis is still paying the bills for them. I find it hard to believe that she ever loved him. If she had, she would have cherished Lisa more. After all, she is so much like her Daddy. :king:

[The King's Queen]

l agree with what you saying, she shouldn't be living off the presley name, she should of stuck with her familys name. She needs to get her facts straight and stop taking the spotlight, she isn't elvis wife but his ex wife, she needs to remember who hurt who and who left who:hmm:

WHO ARE YOU? AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY FRIEND??? :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Jen...I am blown away by your statement! And I am in total agreement with you too!!! :clap:

[Getlo]

I honestly do not believe that he grieved over her leaving. I believe he had a big ol' bruise on his ego that probably hurt like heck.

I agree. It was an ego blow, and the thing that hurt most was his missing Lisa.

It was also probably the first time someone had said NO to The King ... a word which, as I said elsewhere, should have been said to him a lot more often.

The theory that Cilla leaving him was the "final blow" is rubbish.

[The King's Queen]

I agree. It was an ego blow, and the thing that hurt most was his missing Lisa.

It was also probably the first time someone had said NO to The King ... a word which, as I said elsewhere, should have been said to him a lot more often.

The theory that Cilla leaving him was the "final blow" is rubbish.


I agree Getlo....but it's kinda hard to say 'no' to the person who is footing your bills and/or providing you with a lifestyle that you happen to like very much.

As for her leaving him being the 'final blow'....HOGWASH! I believe that he really wanted her to leave...he just didn't want her to leave that way. I think that if she delivered a 'final blow' to Elvis, it was not by leaving him, but rather by using Lisa as a pawn to bargain with. That was probably the one thing that she did that hurt him the most, IMO.

[Suzan]

My, my, my...:supriced:lol, I have been gone way too long! :lmfao:

You guys know my mindset on the Pris issue. I think that Elvis was intrigued by Priscilla...she was young, he admired her looks, he felt he could mold her into his ideal woman...but only because she misrepresented her intentions. :supriced:

After reading through this thread, I see that many of you seem to share my thoughts about her Mother...that, IMO, is the core of the problem...both for Pris and Elvis! Ann layed out the plan, Pris followed through with it. The only problem with all of that was when Pris "came of age" so to speak and decided that she had enough leverage to be able to leave Elvis and still have the kind of life she wanted. That leverage was, of course, Lisa. And I believe that is part of the reason for the mother - daughter conflict that plagued their relationship for so long.

Did he love her? :hmm: I guess that depends on your definition of 'love'. I do believe that if she ever told the truth (and I mean IF :blink:), she did so when she admitted that she strayed FIRST. I know that he was not faithful during the courtship, but I do believe that he was faithful during the first ten or so months of the marriage. Priscilla began her first affair when Lisa was only a few weeks old, I believe. And when Elvis learned of her infidelity, all bets were off! Don't get me wrong....I am not saying that he would have been faithful long term either...but I do think that any type of 'love' he felt for her went down the hole when her first affair came out. She begged forgiveness, and they attempted to patch it up...but I don't think that he could get past it. The rest is history....

I honestly do not believe that he grieved over her leaving. I believe he had a big ol' bruise on his ego that probably hurt like heck...:!: He felt that she belittled his image by leaving him for a karate instructor. And then she added salt to the wound by comparing the two men publicly...:doh: I personally doubt that LOVE was the reason for their marriage...he was obligated. He made promises, and Priscilla's dear ol' step-dad was not about to let him weasle out of keeping those promises! And so, all of these years later, Elvis is still paying the bills for them. I find it hard to believe that she ever loved him. If she had, she would have cherished Lisa more. After all, she is so much like her Daddy. :king:


I agree a million times over on all you've said!:D

She used Lisa to get what she wanted, money wise and all sorts of things and yes that is where I believe some of the mother daughter conflict came from. Also Lisa once said that she reminded her mom a lot of her dad and that freaked her mom out, so if she loved him why would that freak her out, you would think she would be grateful to have such a reminder of him around.

[The King's Queen]

I agree a million times over on all you've said!:D

She used Lisa to get what she wanted, money wise and all sorts of things and yes that is where I believe some of the mother daughter conflict came from. Also Lisa once said that she reminded her mom a lot of her dad and that freaked her mom out, so if she loved him why would that freak her out, you would think she would be grateful to have such a reminder of him around.


My point EXACTLY Suzan! :clap: I know that I have seen many instances where a woman loses her husband and then clings to the children who most remind her of him. That's a natural reaction!

She is so quick to point out Elvis' drug dependency....perhaps she should seek counseling for her "Elvis dependency"...after all, she does seem to be addicted to making a buck off of him in any way possible.... (n)

[utmom2008]

My, my, my...:supriced:lol, I have been gone way too long! :lmfao:

You guys know my mindset on the Pris issue. I think that Elvis was intrigued by Priscilla...she was young, he admired her looks, he felt he could mold her into his ideal woman...but only because she misrepresented her intentions. :supriced:

After reading through this thread, I see that many of you seem to share my thoughts about her Mother...that, IMO, is the core of the problem...both for Pris and Elvis! Ann layed out the plan, Pris followed through with it. The only problem with all of that was when Pris "came of age" so to speak and decided that she had enough leverage to be able to leave Elvis and still have the kind of life she wanted. That leverage was, of course, Lisa. And I believe that is part of the reason for the mother - daughter conflict that plagued their relationship for so long.

Did he love her? :hmm: I guess that depends on your definition of 'love'. I do believe that if she ever told the truth (and I mean IF :blink:), she did so when she admitted that she strayed FIRST. I know that he was not faithful during the courtship, but I do believe that he was faithful during the first ten or so months of the marriage. Priscilla began her first affair when Lisa was only a few weeks old, I believe. And when Elvis learned of her infidelity, all bets were off! Don't get me wrong....I am not saying that he would have been faithful long term either...but I do think that any type of 'love' he felt for her went down the hole when her first affair came out. She begged forgiveness, and they attempted to patch it up...but I don't think that he could get past it. The rest is history....

I honestly do not believe that he grieved over her leaving. I believe he had a big ol' bruise on his ego that probably hurt like heck...:!: He felt that she belittled his image by leaving him for a karate instructor. And then she added salt to the wound by comparing the two men publicly...:doh: I personally doubt that LOVE was the reason for their marriage...he was obligated. He made promises, and Priscilla's dear ol' step-dad was not about to let him weasle out of keeping those promises! And so, all of these years later, Elvis is still paying the bills for them. I find it hard to believe that she ever loved him. If she had, she would have cherished Lisa more. After all, she is so much like her Daddy. :king:
That is a very interesting story. When and where did Cilla admit that she strayed first? Was the woman nuts...I mean...who cheats on Elvis?? LOL

[utmom2008]

She didn't.

She said Elvis didn't, until she did.

(Wasn't Cilla with someone, in the period after Lisa was born 1967?) or was it later?

"I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated."
What interview is this on??

[utmom2008]

Hi Diane! :D:D
Yes to an extent that is what I was trying to say, but more and I just can't find the words to convey lol.
I think she knew by 1966-67 what she was getting into, I think she had her own agenda by that time. :)

But yes I agree w/u, I think she did want to change him, wanted to be the one in control and his personality was such that no he would not go for it, nor do I believe her acct. that he controlled her as much as she claims he did, the bs about her clothes is disproven by his comments and by photos. Even today, look at her following trends, in particular that hairdo w/her hair all in pins when she was almost 60 yrs. old, she looked ridiculous...you know what I mean? lol
I totally agree Suzan! And, while we are talking Cilla.......who in the wold is her plastic surgeon? She should sue.............

[utmom2008]

I agree a million times over on all you've said!:D

She used Lisa to get what she wanted, money wise and all sorts of things and yes that is where I believe some of the mother daughter conflict came from. Also Lisa once said that she reminded her mom a lot of her dad and that freaked her mom out, so if she loved him why would that freak her out, you would think she would be grateful to have such a reminder of him around.
I have thought the same thing. How does she even look at Lisa and not see a walking talking version of Elvis??

[The King's Queen]

I totally agree Suzan! And, while we are talking Cilla.......who in the wold is her plastic surgeon? She should sue.............

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

And sue, and sue, and sue! Thanx for a good laugh...these days, I can sure use one!

[The King's Queen]

That is a very interesting story. When and where did Cilla admit that she strayed first? Was the woman nuts...I mean...who cheats on Elvis?? LOL

I'm with ya on this one...LOL! :lmfao:

[marijaep]

And why do you think she started cheating??????????????????
I'm sure it wasn't because she found a handsomer or sexier man then Elvis.........

[riley]

quote Diane

If what Priscilla had to say in that interview that Elvis was faithful and she fell first then she sure screwed up big time didn't she? Sounds (if true) that he had even intention of trying to make a go of his marriage. It was well known that he did want a family life.

Again if the above is true, no wonder he didn't have any faith in woman and was never faithful to anyone again. It's very possible too that he never felt anyone cared for him as himself afterwards and not the image.




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as very often the case Diane, I can't but agree with you here, have exact same feelings;)

[presley31]

And why do you think she started cheating??????????????????
I'm sure it wasn't because she found a handsomer or sexier man then Elvis.........

good point marija (y)

[Donut]

This paragraph, from an interview with Cilla, (thanks for the link, Jen) is why I believe she loved Elvis:


[SIZE=4]"Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him.


:

No Jess, she says this.

[SleepyJack]

I think Elvis loved her to some degree...and to be honest I don`t think it did either of them much good to have got involved at the ages they did....had Elvis found someone more mature and grown-up I think it would have changed his life for the better...and maybe he would have had someone to trust in and listen to when things were at their worst....just my thoughts....By the way MissyM-I enjoyed reading your post...well put together.

[presley31]

I think Elvis loved her to some degree...and to be honest I don`t think it did either of them much good to have got involved at the ages they did....had Elvis found someone more mature and grown-up I think it would have changed his life for the better...and maybe he would have had someone to trust in and listen to when things were at their worst....just my thoughts....By the way MissyM-I enjoyed reading your post...well put together.

agree but elvis didn't seem to date people his own age:hmm:

[cameron]

Let's see, how do you put it? The situation maybe, bad judgement? You actually have feelings but you should know better. But it happened and you had no idea how it would play out. Probably something that would just go away. It didn't though. Of course you feel responsible and you have your feelings, not wanting to make anyone mad. Especially anyone you do have feelings for. And let's not forget those **************** hormones.
You get home and the media is already making headlines with it. The Colonel takes you to the side and reminds you of Jerry and what this situation did for his career. And trying to say as a friend it didn't look good. Then she's practically beggging you to take her in. Torn between your feelings, what people are telling you and trying to figure out what's right. You take a chance, maybe another bad judgement call. Why does everything have to be so hard?
She's now with you, hopefully things will cool down some. Then the guys don't like her and of course she doesn't like the guys. Always someone bickering, always someone implying you did the wrong thing. This is happening all the time. The guys are jealous of the time you spend with her and she of course, jealous of the time you spend with the guys. You can't seem to make anyone happy, no matter how hard you try. Everyone says either something about the legalities, she isn't right for you, she's too bossy or you aren't the type to stick with one girl. You think, yea right, you just don't want the fun to end. Never mind how I feel.
So, you do the right thing and get married. Does it end? Of course not! Now it's gonna end your career because you aren't single any more. And of course the jealousy is still there. The tension is all around you. You gotta find an excuse to get out of here and you do. Then more problems. And you want to find fault with taking a pill?

Amazing !! (y) Are you Elvis? ;)

[Suzan]

I have thought the same thing. How does she even look at Lisa and not see a walking talking version of Elvis??

I think that was the problem, she saw too much Elvis in Lisa...Lisa made mention of it in an interview.:(
I heard one of the guys (may have been Jerry) say in an interview that Elvis wasn't so much grieving for Pris leaving, but that his ego was hurt and he was devasted that she was taking Lisa.

[Diane]

Knoxelvis...yup, think you got it right there(y)

Diane

[riley]

When Pris looks at her daughter she will see him, no doubt.
Her face, her laugh, her gestures,...
EVERYTHING is Elvis.

I wonder what did she inherit from Priscilla besides being small

[presley31]

lisa being so private riley l don't think we will know..

[riley]

I also think that the biggest pain for him was losing Lisa.
I think the marriage was alreaddy long lost and only existed on paper so to speak from 1970 on...

[cameron]

I'm not crazy about Cilla...but, I said long ago I didn't blame her for leaving him. First, how can you expect to have a marriage with so many there all the time ?
Next, the main thing I've always said, for anyone ; You cannot leave a man or a woman alone for too long. Cilla was very young. I'm sure she needed a partner in marriage. IMO, I never thought Elvis was as interested in women as has been said . Except to really sleep with. Not sex, just the physical presense of someone beside him . He seemed to need that. Not uncommon in some ways.

[velasca1]

Wow! I had totally never heard that Elvis was faithful until Priscilla cheated first???
Man! that's a trip...

sad to think what might have been..:'(

[getlow]

I believed her loved her in his own way

[MissyM]

How much do you remember till the age nine, in detail. I doubt that Lisa would have enough to make a book. Also much of that time was spent with Pricilla not Elvis.

[Getlo]

Wow! I had totally never heard that Elvis was faithful until Priscilla cheated first??? (

Because it is patently untrue.

Joyce Bova springs to mind for a start.

There is no way Elvis was sexually faithful to Cilla from 1967 until after she cheated on him.

No way, no how.

[presley31]

How much do you remember till the age nine, in detail. I doubt that Lisa would have enough to make a book. Also much of that time was spent with Pricilla not Elvis.

l remember everything at 9 years old. Memories don't go away.

[jak]

Because it is patently untrue.

Joyce Bova springs to mind for a start.

There is no way Elvis was sexually faithful to Cilla from 1967 until after she cheated on him.

No way, no how.

That's a no brainer.

[jak]

Lisa was to young to remember much about what was going on back then.Even if she did she was to young to make any judgements.It's all fantasy in her head.Many people have false memories or have just convinced themselves of certain things.There may be some excpetions but I cannot accept that most people can recall details from a very early childhood.
Jak

[presley31]

Lisa was to young to remember much about what was going on back then.Even if she did she was to young to make any judgements.It's all fantasy in her head.Many people have false memories or have just convinced themselves of certain things.There may be some excpetions but I cannot accept that most people can recall details from a very early childhood.
Jak

maybe you don't have any memory of your younger days but l do and its not made up either. When bad things happen you remember all to well.

[Getlo]

We're completely off topic here, but memory is different for each of us.

My childhood memories go back as far as to 18 months; I can recall almost everything in detail from my younger days.

My point about Lisa is that she wasn't even there for much of what went on. Her views have been clouded and modified by Cilla and others.

[MissyM]

I'm not saying she doesn't remember some things. The question was how much. Could if fill a book? Why do I keep thinking I should be in the other thread?? (about books) How did this one get here?

[Merry]

I feel that it is a generalisation re saying people don't remember. Perhaps women remember things at a younger age, (another generalisation, yes) I don't know.

I remember specifics. Lots of family gatherings, Christmases, holidays, presents received, which music we played, television shows that we watched as a family, with my cousins, and uncles and aunts, what the pets got up to, so many things, I could fill (a boring book, lol). Insects that were around, lol. I would have been under seven years old, for all those memories. (Part One .........Yawn! hehe). I'd like it though, lol (y)

[Suzan]

I remember things from age 2, not everything, but some things and they aren't made up or false either, I have said things to my mom that blew her away, things she didn't think I'd remember. Each person is different.
I do think Lisa remembers some things, but like Getlo I believe that some things are in her "memory" as she heard or read them from other's, what comes to mind is the story about the blue light on his car, well one of the guys told that story years ago, along w/a couple other's she's told. Pris did not discuss Elvis w/her and so I think maybe some memories have faded.:(
I think also though that a lot of things she does keep to herself...and even though she may not have been w/him a lot it's the times she was that prob. stick out in her mind.

K. here's an odd thing, did anyone else notice a discrepency in GMA interview this past August where she said that she didn't spend a lot of time w/him (may have been an online interview when the duet came out) but in past interviews she's stated that she spent a lot of time w/her dad, or something to that effect.

[riley]

What did Pris say to Lisa when Lisa wanted to talk about her dad...

I mean why couldn't Elvis be discussed???

[Donut]

K. here's an odd thing, did anyone else notice a discrepency in GMA interview this past August where she said that she didn't spend a lot of time w/him (may have been an online interview when the duet came out) but in past interviews she's stated that she spent a lot of time w/her dad, or something to that effect.

No Suzan but I noticed when Priscilla said on tv on Elvis week that people wouldn´t tell the difference when they were divorced because they remained very close. Good try. Maybe it was because they both were screwing around during their marriage, had very little in common and spent very little time together. Ask Linda Thompson if she saw much of Priscilla during his years with Elvis. No wonder it was hard to tell the difference.

[Suzan]

No Suzan but I noticed when Priscilla said on tv on Elvis week that people wouldn´t tell the difference when they were divorced because they remained very close. Good try. Maybe it was because they both were screwing around during their marriage, had very little in common and spent very little time together. Ask Linda Thompson if she saw much of Priscilla during his years with Elvis. No wonder it was hard to tell the difference.

Hi Donut!:D:D:D:D:D :hug:
Once again I agree w/u, yes I did see that and had to snicker. Linda said Pris was seldom or hardly around in the end and I've heard that from other's as well. But you know you can't sell the fairytale that way.:)

Riley, by both women's accts. Elvis was not discussed and when he was, quoting Pris "it wasn't any deep gushing talk". I just don't think she spoke to Lisa about her dad other then to tell her the bad things, the women and the prescription drug use.
She also said in another interview when the tv show "Elvis" was on, that this was a part of Elvis' life Lisa knew nothing about. Odd actions for a mom who now claims to have LOVED HIM SO MUCH.

[MissyM]

I wondered that too about the time spent. She was up early and he was in bed. He would have visitation and have a concert so others would watch her. Pricilla and Elvis separated when she was pretty young. Not that she wouldn't remember some things but not that many. But I also think that when others talk about things it may prompt a memory she has.

[riley]

very strange indeed. On the other hand I read in Edwards book that Pris kept a trunk full of mementos and gifts of him in her bedroom and even still had his combat jacket in her closet. Also he spoke of a pair of sunglasses in a glass drawer...

What I also recall is that Pris wanted to go to pray on the day he was 1 year desceased...

IMO Pris had and still has till today a love - hate relationship with Elvis...

I also found it odd that at the Beaulieu's there was no single pic of Elvis in the background between all the family pics...

Also in Priscilla's office EPE there is no single pic of him...

Suzan do you happen to know where her office of EPE is, by the way...

[MissyM]

Another thing that makes me batty is when she says Elvis wanted her back. Ok, he had to be very high to say that!! The thing is, I think Elvis made alot look hunky dory for the public and Lisa. He gave her (Cilla)what she wanted to shut her up. He did not want bad publicity for the most part. And while he may have tried to forgive her, he would have never ever forgotten. A lot of people think of Elvis as gullible but let me tell you, once you screwed him over to a point, he'd never forget it.

[Suzan]

very strange indeed. On the other hand I read in Edwards book that Pris kept a trunk full of mementos and gifts of him in her bedroom and even still had his combat jacket in her closet. Also he spoke of a pair of sunglasses in a glass drawer...

What I also recall is that Pris wanted to go to pray on the day he was 1 year desceased...

IMO Pris had and still has till today a love - hate relationship with Elvis...

I also found it odd that at the Beaulieu's there was no single pic of Elvis in the background between all the family pics...

Also in Priscilla's office EPE there is no single pic of him...

Suzan do you happen to know where her office of EPE is, by the way...


I don't believe that trunk is still there.
His combat jacket is now on display at Graceland, no longer w/her.
A lot of people found it odd no pics behind the Beaulieu's for a documentary about Elvis the man they professed to love.
There are zero pics anywhere @ the offices in L.A. of EPE Inc.. and certainly not in Pris office.
Yes I do Riley, I gave it to the other forum admin. who moved to Cali. recently. I will send to you via private message.:)

[riley]

I never believed the story he wanted to have her back, MissyM.

The only reason in my toughts he would have taken her back was perhaps Lisa...

MissyM do you think if he would have wanted her back, she would have come back indeed????

To me it seems impossible but there were rumors she wanted to come back after some rows with Stone....

[MissyM]

I don't think she would have. She had it all without the strings. And I don't think he would have done it for Lisa to tell you the truth. I know he loved her very much but there are just some things you can't do for your child. There is no way he could have been trusting or intimate with Cilla after what she had done.

[presley31]

No Suzan but I noticed when Priscilla said on tv on Elvis week that people wouldn´t tell the difference when they were divorced because they remained very close. Good try. Maybe it was because they both were screwing around during their marriage, had very little in common and spent very little time together. Ask Linda Thompson if she saw much of Priscilla during his years with Elvis. No wonder it was hard to tell the difference.

we don't know if that is true or not donut.

[Suzan]

None of us know by that logic Presley31, any of it, it's just speculation on our part then. But again for only Pris to be telling the truth and only Pris, I find that hard to believe, there has got to be some truth to the rest of it.

[presley31]

I don't think she would have. She had it all without the strings. And I don't think he would have done it for Lisa to tell you the truth. I know he loved her very much but there are just some things you can't do for your child. There is no way he could have been trusting or intimate with Cilla after what she had done.

I don't think any of us know if elvis would of taken her back or not. I don't think priscilla would of went back to be honest, she was free as bird.

[MissyM]

Well I never heard of her being around after the divorce. Not one person. I think Pricilla has her very own definition of "friends". They may have remained civil and friendly, but I doubt that they were "close". As for her saying he would call and get advise about girlfriends!!! That just cracks my butt up!!! Not like she was a relationship guru.

Presley, no I don't know for sure at all, but I will tell you from what I know of him, I'd bet my house on the hunch he would not have. As for her going back to him, if I had a reason to think she had a reason, maybe,but she didn't.

[Suzan]

He didn't want her back Presley31 SEVERAL sources have said so, what we are getting is Pris version of things and w/o Elvis here we will NEVER know the truth. But it has been said she called him after a fight w/Stone and asked to come back and she said no.
And by some accts. he was not that upset w/her leaving him so much as his ego was hurt and he was hurting about losing Lisa.
They both cheated, but I do believe after the marriage she cheated first. And her actions w/their child does not speak of a woman who loved this man.
I think again at one time, long ago, that he loved her.

[riley]

Thanks MissyM and thanks Suzan...

I appreciate you both, you are IMO good sources.

I also think Elvis was not readdy to take Pris ever back.

They outgrew each other, he moved on without her, had his share of grief over her I'm sure he did but was not readdy to take her back...

It would have been nice for Lisa but like MissyM says, there are limits to please your child.


Indeed Suzan I also think he once loved her very much too but you know love can die, little by little.

[Suzan]

Well I never heard of her being around after the divorce. Not one person. I think Pricilla has her very own definition of "friends". They may have remained civil and friendly, but I doubt that they were "close". As for her saying he would call and get advise about girlfriends!!! That just cracks my butt up!!! Not like she was a relationship guru.


Well said, I've heard same thing, she was not around that much and when Elvis did call it was to speak to LISA! Or to request a visit w/Lisa.

[presley31]

Well I never heard of her being around after the divorce. Not one person. I think Pricilla has her very own definition of "friends". They may have remained civil and friendly, but I doubt that they were "close". As for her saying he would call and get advise about girlfriends!!! That just cracks my butt up!!! Not like she was a relationship guru.

Lisa siad her father was there lots . She never felt the divorce like most kids do.

[MissyM]

Yep that is my understanding from my sources too.(what Susan said)

[Suzan]

Thanks MissyM and thanks Suzan...

I appreciate you both, you are IMO good sources.

I also think Elvis was not readdy to take Pris ever back.

They outgrew each other, he moved on without her, had his share of grief over her I'm sure he did but was not readdy to take her back...

It would have been nice for Lisa but like MissyM says, there are limits to please your child.

Thank you Riley.:D I agree w/you, he did not want to take her back, not even for Lisa. Also if you hear Jerry's acct. of Pris leaving that day, he cried for LIsa and he wanted to keep Lisa, not Pris.
Here is something else interesting, Jerry's acct. is far far different then version of that day given by Pris, according to her, in her book, Elvis was not home when she went to get her things and pack up the car and say good-bye to the staff, but in fact, per Jerry Schilling, he was in fact home. So now tell me how are we to believe anything she says, and this is just a small piece of her "truth"...I have interview upon interview, w/her, both print and tv where she contradicts her own self, why? Because a person cannot keep their lies straight, if you tell the truth, you story does not waiver.

[Suzan]

Yep that is my understanding from my sources too.

;) I believe the sources much more so then Pris. And b4 anyone asks, the reason the "sources" dont go public is because they are afraid of her power, the power she gained thru Elvis, money talks, etc...you know what I mean?

[presley31]

l agree suzann she does lie alot.

[presley31]

l find it odd that lisa would say her dad showed up at her mothers house, and talk to her all hours of the night. That was stated on elvis by the presleys.

[Donut]

we don't know if that is true or not donut.

We do presley31. Elvis didn´t want her around when he was working and that was often. They both had different interests in life and different goals according to her and those around him at the time and they didn´t see Priscilla around after the divorce wich is normal because she had another relationship with another man the same like Elvis had another one with Linda and brought her to live with him to Graceland.
Linda and Elvis were living together for 4 years and didn´t leave his side for the first year besides unlike with Priscilla he used to bring Linda while on tour with him so she must know what she is talking about.

[riley]

Suzan and MissyM,

Do you have any accounts of Pris and Elvis still spending holliday together with their child. I have it in a book they went still together on vacation to Hawaii in 1972 , after Pris had left....


About the contradicting stories Suzan (Shilling versus Pris) I think there were two addresses where she packed.
He was present in LA, allright, but I think Pris talked about her final farewell in Memphis.
I heard he was NOT present there at the time....

[presley31]

We do presley31. Elvis didn´t want her around when he was working and that was often. They both had different interests in life and different goals according to her and those around him at the time and they didn´t see Priscilla around after the divorce wich is normal because she had another relationship with another man the same like Elvis had another one with Linda and brought her to live with him to Graceland.
Linda and Elvis were living together for 4 years and didn´t leave his side for the first year besides unlike with Priscilla he used to bring Linda while on tour with him so she must know what she is talking about.

l don't buy what priscilla saying, but what lisa has stated in interviews about her father stopping by and calling all the time, thats what l have a hard time not understanding??

[riley]

That is indeed still a question IMO too.
Lisa is a sweet girl, a honnest person too but indeed she is the one who said that her mom and dad spendet still much time together...

Can it be they saw each other more after all the first hurt was a bit over, or is Lisa taking her wishes and fantasy for real.

Intresting question indeed Jen.

MissyM, or Suzan, can you please help us out with that one

[Donut]

l don't buy what priscilla saying, but what lisa has stated in interviews about her father stopping by and calling all the time, thats what l have a hard time not understanding??

And why wouldn´t Elvis visit or call his daughter? That has nothing to do with Priscilla. I recall Lisa telling how Elvis would send someone in a car to pick her up and take her with him. And some of the guys use to fly from Memphis to do the same and then bring her back.

[presley31]

And why wouldn´t Elvis visit or call his daughter? That has nothing to do with Priscilla. I recall Lisa telling how Elvis would send someone in a car to pick her up and take her with him. And some of the guys use to fly from Memphis to do the same and then bring her back.

lisa has said that elvis would stop by talk to priscilla for hours. Normal peopel don't do than they divorced. My parents don't even speak to eachtogther and heck they were married for 30 years.

[Donut]

lisa has said that elvis would stop by talk to priscilla for hours. Normal peopel don't do than they divorced. My parents don't even speak to eachtogther and heck they were married for 30 years.

Really? and were Mike Stone and Lisa present? That he did it some time doesn´t mean he did it constantly and to have happened so often more people should know, he didn´t use to go out alone. Can´t remember when Lisa said that though, maybe you are right... I´ll pay more attention next time I watch EBTP, I don´t like the talk in it so I don´t do it often.

[presley31]

Really? and were Mike Stone and Lisa present? That he did it some time doesn´t mean he did it constantly and to have happened so often more people should know, he didn´t use to go out alone. Can´t remember when Lisa said that though, maybe you are right... I´ll pay more attention next time I watch EBTP, I don´t like the talk in it so I don´t do it often.

l'm not the only one who has heard that, riley to has heard the same thing thats why this doesn't make since. If he didn't like priscilla for what she did why the heck did he call and talk to her all hours of the night.

[riley]

she said it in EBTP

Odd indeed because until now it seems no single person close to them seems to recall them being on extraordinary good terms.

I did read a couple weeks before his death Pris stopped by at Graceland and missed her plane back to LA

Elvis asked her to stay that night and apparently she did.
I think it was the last time they saw each other in person

[Donut]

l'm not the only one who has heard that, riley to has heard the same thing thats why this doesn't make since. If he didn't like priscilla for what she did why the heck did he call and talk to her all hours of the night.

I´m not saying that you didn´t hear it, I explained that I don´t use to watch that dvd. How can Lisa know that her father called at all hours of the night and talk with his mother for hours? Did Priscilla wake her up and kept her there hearing the conversation all those times ? Like some poeple say here she must know some things from the mouth of her mother and she thinks they are memories...
Maybe he called her some time in the midle of the night like he used to do with some of the guys but that doesn´t have to have been been an everyday occurrence like she says she remembers.

[presley31]

I´m not saying that you didn´t hear it, I explained that I don´t use to watch that dvd. How can Lisa know that her father called at all hours of the night and talk with his mother for hours? Did Priscilla wake her up and kept her there hearing the conversation all those times ? Like some poeple say here she must know some things from the mouth of her mother and she thinks they are memories...
Maybe he called her some time in the midle of the night like he used to do with some of the guys but that doesn´t have to have been been an everyday occurrence like she says she remembers.

dunno donut l'm going by what lisa has said and jerry has also said that elvis and priscilla spent more time togther after the divorce than they were togther. I wish l knew the real turth but l guess this is one of things we have to decide on our own.

[riley]

Jerry is the only one stating that IMO.
Also Joe said it but it is odd that exactly those two who were still befriended with her have the same recollections and all the others have not.

Also the Beaulieu's said he couldn't let her go, kept in contact with her etc etc
They also said Elvis asked them to talk to Priscilla , to make her change her mind.

We really have here two camps obviously but who is lying and why....

[presley31]

Jerry is the only one stating that IMO.
Also Joe said it but it is odd that exactly those two who were still befriended with her have the same recollections and all the others have not.

Also the Beaulieu's said he couldn't let her go, kept in contact with her etc etc
They also said Elvis asked them to talk to Priscilla , to make her change her mind.

We really have here two camps obviously but who is lying and why....

strange indeed:hmm:

[presley31]

http://www.anelvisfan2001.com/itsmidnight.html

here is a quote from charlie hodge.

[riley]

That is an intresting statement yes...

MissyM and Suzan we need you here;)

[mistymorning]

your opinions about elvis,s love for priscilla and if he really loved her or no have been reallyinteresting and it shows you are knowledgable people and know alot about him, but have you ever asked yourself if priscilla really loved elvis or not?did she love him enough to stay and help him to overcome the problems?! or she wanted everything to be as she liked ! did she ever fight for his love?! did she try to understand him better? she knew elvis and his ways before she married him , if she couldn,t take it why she married him?! wasn,t she upset when elvis was really hurt after divorce? couldn,t she give him another chance if she loved him?!

[riley]

these are very very good questions and indeed some new stuff for us to discuss

[MissyM]

I'm not saying that Elvis did not have regrets and sadness concerning Pricilla. I think alot of divorced people get sad about what could have been, what they wish had been, and then they wake up to reality. I think there was a part of Elvis that did love Pricilla, but I also think there was a part of her he did not understand and some he didn't know about her. I don't think you can take the grief process someone goes through as a sign that they will go back and repeat something. Nor does a few times of one thing equal the majority of the time. Where were Elvis's girlfriends when Cilla missed her plane? And Charlie saying that Cilla was the only women he ever loved, that's an opinion. All I am saying it I heard nothing of her being at Graceland much. I sure don't think Elvis being the man he was would have ever remarried, because there is no way he could have been intimate with her after she slept with Mike Stone or Edwards.

[SweetCaroline]

http://www.anelvisfan2001.com/itsmidnight.html

here is a quote from charlie hodge.

:king: I have never been fond of Cilla once she walked away from the marriage.
This is only my opinion, too, but I agree with Charlie.:king:

[Suzan]

The only one who said that Elvis called at all hours is Pris, and of course her parents are going to back her version of things, it's in their interst to do so.
Lisa would not know, unless Pris told her.
And again, it's what Jerry is saying, but tell me, why do you doubt? He's still friends w/Pris and Lisa, so obviously he's not lying or believe me he would not be allowed anywhere near Pris..

Riley I missed part of this, what do you need me to answer?

[Suzan]

Suzan and MissyM,

Do you have any accounts of Pris and Elvis still spending holliday together with their child. I have it in a book they went still together on vacation to Hawaii in 1972 , after Pris had left....


About the contradicting stories Suzan (Shilling versus Pris) I think there were two addresses where she packed.
He was present in LA, allright, but I think Pris talked about her final farewell in Memphis.
I heard he was NOT present there at the time....

Jerry is talking about Memphis not L.A., in L.A. Elvis left the Holmby Hills home and went back to Hillcrest. After that Pris went to Memphis and removed her stuff and went to Stone in Marina Del Rey where they'd gotten a 3 bd. rm. apartment for a little over $400,000 penthouse.
Yes they spent 1972 holiday together, Pris didn't leave Memphis for L.A. until Feb. of 72 (when the separation happened) and then broke it to Elvis @ the Hilton shortly thereafter.

Lisa is starting to contradict herself as well then, :( Because in GMA and print online interview after the release of duet she stated that he was hardly around, so which is it?

[presley31]

Jerry is talking about Memphis not L.A., in L.A. Elvis left the Holmby Hills home and went back to Hillcrest. After that Pris went to Memphis and removed her stuff and went to Stone in Marina Del Rey where they'd gotten a 3 bd. rm. apartment for a little over $400,000 penthouse.
Yes they spent 1972 holiday together, Pris didn't leave Memphis for L.A. until Feb. of 72 (when the separation happened) and then broke it to Elvis @ the Hilton shortly thereafter.

Lisa is starting to contradict herself as well then, :( Because in GMA and print online interview after the release of duet she stated that he was hardly around, so which is it?

Suzan do you have the transcript of lisa's interview by any chance??

[Suzan]

It's on her official forum and I have it on my forum, let me go locate copy and paste.

[presley31]

It's on her official forum and I have it on my forum, let me go locate copy and paste.

great Suzan thank you

[Suzan]

Here you go Presley31

Lisa Marie Remembers Elvis
Posted Aug 16th 2007 9:00PM by Beville Darden
Filed under: Spinner Interview

She's the daughter of music's biggest icon, a singer-songwriter in her own right, a mother of two and the head of one of the world's biggest tourist attractions. Lisa Marie Presley is also very outspoken. On the week of the 30th anniversary of Elvis Presley's death -- which she commemorated by filming a duet of 'In the Ghetto' -- she shared with Spinner her candid opinions on the commercialization of his music, her distaste for young Hollywood and why she doesn't need fans to remind her how wonderful her dad was.

Tell us about the making of the 'In the Ghetto' video.

I wanted to use this anniversary for something really good. So first I picked the song. David Foster produced it. I called him last minute and he had four hours to lay a track down of mine on the original version -- and that turned out really good. And when it came to the video, I wanted Tony Kaye ('American History X') to direct. He's controversial; he's cool. He was in New Orleans filming a movie, and he had just a few hours. So I flew to New Orleans.

And this video is not only for the 30th anniversary, it's also for a good cause.

All of this -- the song, the video -- is going to charity. The money from the downloads is going to help build another Presley Place in New Orleans, which is a transitional housing program that we started in Memphis. Families come in and live there, get their life skills and get it together. They get jobs ... and then about a year later, they move out when they can get back on their feet. This program has been doing incredibly well for the past few years, so I wanted to branch it out. It's something [Elvis] was very interested in, because it's kinda where he started from. And Presley Place is near where he was raised. I wanted to do this [video] and use it for something good. All fingers pointed towards New Orleans. I landed there to do the video and I looked around when I got off the plane, and it looks like Katrina happened six months ago. That's when it all fell together. And all proceeds -- not a portion of -- all proceeds are going towards building a transitional housing building in New Orleans.

Did you find filming the video to be an emotional experience, being that you're singing with your dad in a setting that's still suffering the effects of Katrina?

The next morning, I heard the rough [recording], and just lost it when I heard it. And I've never cried when I've done anything -- ever. So I know it's good. It's pretty organic. There are no bells and whistles -- they just added me into the original recording.

What personality traits do you think you inherited from your dad versus those from your mom [Priscilla]?

Both are really strong. Humor from him, without question. Common sense and strength comes from her. I'm not saying that he didn't have any -- I'm just saying that she thinks everything through.

What did your dad teach you about being a parent?

He was on the road all the time, so I don't know! But I had unconditional love.

Describe a typical day at Graceland when you would visit as a child.

I got on his schedule. He was nocturnal, so I'd sleep all day and be up all night. And sometimes I'd wake up way before he would, and it was just mayhem with me and my friends. We were pretty unsupervised -- running pretty wild, riding golf carts -- just crazy kid stuff.

What song of your dad's do you listen to when you need a good cry?

There isn't a specific one. If it's one of those evenings when I'm with a bunch of people and we're sitting around drinking and turn [his music] on, there's a possibility that I'll lose it. I can't name which particular song would do that, and it certainly doesn't happen very often. I tend to listen to more of the '70s material, because that was what I was around for.

I read that a CNN poll in the last few years reported that 45 percent of Americans today consider themselves Elvis fans. And thousands of people flock to Memphis every August to pay tribute -- even after 30 years. Do you ever get overwhelmed by your dad's popularity?

I don't get overwhelmed. I get concerned because our priorities today are so screwed up, and we don't really nurture culture or tradition in our country. I don't want people to forget the fact that he started this whole thing, and that it was not this way [before]. It's important that people know. I know that the parents are fans -- what does our youth think? I don't know if they think Madonna started music or Jay-Z . Where did it come from? Who started all this? Where did it begin? That concerns me.

The celebrity world then versus the celebrity world now is certainly very different. And you've been pretty vocal about your distaste for this new world of reality television and tabloid-fueled Hollywood. What bugs you the most about celebrity culture today?

Morals. Our young girls are looking up to things that are really bad for them to be looking up to. And we glorify bad behavior in the press. When I was growing up, you would hide that for dear life. Whatever you were going through, you would avoid the media. You didn't want them to see your mistakes. You wouldn't advertise it and have all the paparazzi and major Internet servers on your speed dial. I avoid it at all costs, and I still do. Now, it's just a free for all. I'm concerned for our youth, because we glorify it and give it so much attention. Our young girls are going to be getting DUI's and have drug problems, bulimia, anorexia and show body parts to become famous.

Now that your own daughter [18-year-old Riley Keogh] has started modeling and is becoming a celebrity herself, what are you doing to keep her grounded and out of trouble?

I don't have to do a lot. She sees it for what it is. I'm very lucky in that she's very level-headed. She's deep. And she hates all that stuff, as well. She's got a good B.S. detector. She's never been that kind of dumb girly-girl. I don't worry about her.

How do you feel when you see some of your dad's songs commercialized -- like the current 'Viva Viagra' commercial?

I find that revolting. Some songs we have no control over. I know we didn't license that one.

Being that your ex-husband Michael Jackson owns the rights to a lot of the Elvis Presley catalog, do you ever have the inclination to call him up and ask him to stop the commercialization of these songs?

I don't know if he owns that one [laughs]. But have I thought about it? Yeah. I get mad all the time. If I see something wacked out, I'll definitely yell and say, 'What the hell is that?' or 'Get rid of this!'

Can we expect a new album from you anytime soon?

Yes. I'm definitely going to do it. I just have to figure out the right way. I'm on a clean slate right now; I just got off my label, so I'm figuring out my next route.

Who are some other female rockers today that you admire?

Today? That's tough. There are no female rockers anymore! I can tell you all the ones who've inspired me in my lifetime but not today. I don't think there's a place for rock females.

With the exception of the video you're doing this week, you've been reluctant to cover any of your dad's tunes, choosing instead to make a name for yourself as an artist on your own and writing your own songs. Do you ever see yourself covering an Elvis song on a future album?

I could've done this ages ago. I always find it necessary to make my own path and not ride on his coattails, which I have not done. And the only reason I was OK with doing this [video] is because I've already done a couple of records. People already know who I am on my own. I'm not doing this in a self-centered way. I'm doing this for a bigger cause. The answer is, most likely, no.

In regard to your own career, how does your last name help you and how does it hurt you?

Any name will help you get in the door, but it doesn't mean you're going to stay in the house. Right now, I'm so baffled at how anybody can be famous for anything. I don't try to use it. I've never tried to use it. I know people are into branding themselves, and that's all a new thing and that's fine. It used to be that the name would help you, and if you had talent, you'd go far. And if you didn't, you wouldn't. Nowadays, you can go far with nothing. I don't quite understand that.

What are some of the biggest challenges of owning and running Graceland?

Graceland itself is mine. Eighty-five percent of the company was sold a couple of years ago, and the money that was paid for that went back into the company that we formed. It's a very complicated ordeal. Basically, all the money went into stock and into doing bigger things with the estate -- with the licensing, marketing and stuff like that. My mom is on the board and everybody works together. 'American Idol' is involved. There's a misconception that I sold the company, which is ridiculous. The money went back into the company, actually -- into the new, bigger company. The whole thing is a very intense running machine.

Do you see it staying in the family?

Yeah, everyone who was there before is still there. My mom is very present on the day-to-day stuff. Everything is working pretty well.

Since his passing, is there anything that you've learned from fans about your dad? I can imagine you are constantly approached by people who tell you how much your dad meant to them.

That's definitely true, but I already knew. I know what he was without having them tell me.

[presley31]

your right suzan she does contradict herself from the other interviews

[Suzan]

Yes, yes she does.:(

[MissyM]

Everyone who was there before is still there!! I beg to differ with that!!

[Suzan]

I think she is referring to prior to the merger w/Sillerman. Not anything else, but yes I do know what you mean.

[presley31]

started another thread about lisa and elvis, cause we are off topic here.

[Suzan]

Saw it and posted.:)
I posted that interview here Presley31 because you requested it, but I've also started another thread w/it.:D

[presley31]

yep l seen you posted, thanks for the interview.

[Suzan]

Your welcome.:)

[MissyM]

Got it Suzan, knew you'd "get it". LOL

[Suzan]

Got it Suzan, knew you'd "get it". LOL

Yes. ;)
Sad to me espescially concerning one individual in particular, you know whom I'm referring to.:)

[Unchained Melody]

Absolutley I do. Imo, he missed her dearly until the day he died and had alot to do with the depression he went through the last four years of his life.

[presley31]

Absolutley I do. Imo, he missed her dearly until the day he died and had alot to do with the depression he went through the last four years of his life.

I agree brad(y)(y)

[riley]

Suzana

your quote

Jerry is talking about Memphis not L.A., in L.A. Elvis left the Holmby Hills home and went back to Hillcrest. After that Pris went to Memphis and removed her stuff and went to Stone in Marina Del Rey where they'd gotten a 3 bd. rm. apartment for a little over $400,000 penthouse.
Yes they spent 1972 holiday together, Pris didn't leave Memphis for L.A. until Feb. of 72 (when the separation happened) and then broke it to Elvis @ the Hilton



end of your quote



I'm not following anymore, please help me out.

So she packed both in LA and Memphis and afterwards spend holliday with Elvis in Hawaii???? Or am I wrong



I did hear she packed, then went living in Holmby Hills alone with Lisa, then told him the news in Vegas and moved into Marina del Rey with Mike.

But when did they go on holliday....
Was it between packing and telling him the news of Mike or am I confused????

Help needed???

[Memory]

I think he loved her,but he was not in love,but there was a lot of habit.:blush:

[Suzan]

I'm not following anymore, please help me out.

So she packed both in LA and Memphis and afterwards spend holliday with Elvis in Hawaii???? Or am I wrong



I did hear she packed, then went living in Holmby Hills alone with Lisa, then told him the news in Vegas and moved into Marina del Rey with Mike.

But when did they go on holliday....
Was it between packing and telling him the news of Mike or am I confused????

Help needed???[/QUOTE]

K I try best I can woman.:D:D:D:D:D

Their holiday, if I remember correctly, was prior to Feb. 1972, I will need to look up the exact date.
She left Memphis in Feb. of '72 (from what I"ve read and heard).
She returned to L.A. @ that time, to the Holmby Hills home, shortly thereafter Elvis moved back to the Trousdale Estates (Hillcrest Dr.) home. He at that time knew it was a seperation.
She later (w/Lisa ) moved to a new penthouse apartment in the Marina w/Stone.
She returned to Memphis (the episode Jerry speaks of) to collect some of her and Lisa's things. Elvis was @ home. (contradicting her version in her book).
She left most of the stuff @ the L.A. home.
According to Stone, she showed up in a used station wagon, crammed w/boxes and Lisa.
Don't know if you know this, you prob. do, but she and Stone had had a smaller apartment for about a year or so in Belmont Shores (another beach community here in So. Cali, not far from Marina Del Rey).

:hug:

[riley]

Thanks Suzana, it is alreaddy a bit more clear.

I did hear of a "lovenest" she had while still married to Elvis yes, but did not know the place.

The fact she could get away with all that says ofcourse enough about the last years of their marriage.

I heard the marriage only existed on paper since 1970 , alreaddy.


Do you happen to know Suzana, when the pics were taken for Lisa's 5th birthday at the Vegas Hilton it was alreaddy 1973 by then, how it comes that Pris was there present with him.
How was their relationship at thatpoint. Was it hostile, was it good.

IMO it shows in the pics that there was tension, that's for sure.

Do you happen to know Linda was there too?? I read somewhere that she was, but she is not in any picture????

[Suzan]

Thanks Suzana, it is alreaddy a bit more clear.

I did hear of a "lovenest" she had while still married to Elvis yes, but did not know the place.

The fact she could get away with all that says ofcourse enough about the last years of their marriage.

I heard the marriage only existed on paper since 1970 , alreaddy.


Do you happen to know Suzana, when the pics were taken for Lisa's 5th birthday at the Vegas Hilton it was alreaddy 1973 by then, how it comes that Pris was there present with him.
How was their relationship at thatpoint. Was it hostile, was it good.

IMO it shows in the pics that there was tension, that's for sure.

Do you happen to know Linda was there too?? I read somewhere that she was, but she is not in any picture????

Your welcome. :D:D:D:D:D

Yes Linda was there for Lisa's bday party @ the Hilton, yes it was Feb. of 1973, I want to say the 1st, but I've also heard may have been the 4th, not sure...I could find out if you'd like? :)
Pris was there as she'd flown in w/her sis and mom, I've heard it was tense and she was there for a couple of reason's, 1) to celebrate Lisa's bday and make it as "normal" as possible for her. 2) to discuss their divorce. I've heard and also read snippets from this event, apparently Pris was not too nice to Linda, and Elvis was quite upset, when it was time for Lisa and Pris to leave, he scooped Lisa up, causing her to drop her piece of cake, she admonished him for it and he told her that he would buy her a new one.
Also been told that Elvis and Pris went into a seperate room to discuss things and when they came out, Lisa looked @ her dad and asked "Did you make it alright daddy so we could be together again?" this lead to him scooping her up and he told her to mind her mamma and do as she was told. :(

K here is more info, I cannot locate right now the date of their holiday (may be a rumor??????) though I've heard one did take place, will do some more reading and asking.:)

Anyway here is a timeline (somewhat):

Late 1971, Early 1972
Elvis and Priscilla separate. She moves out on her own with Lisa Marie.

January 26 - February 23, 1972
Elvis plays another successful engagement at the Hilton in Vegas.

July 1972
Elvis and Priscilla’s separation is formalized. A divorce is to come. Elvis has begun seeing Linda Thompson, who will be his main female companion until late 1976.

October 9, 1973
Elvis and Priscilla make a court appearance together and their divorce is granted. They will continue to be close friends. Though Priscilla has custody of Lisa Marie, there will be no formal schedule of visitation for Elvis, and he and his daughter will spend time together regularly.

:hug:

[Suzan]

Could it be that we're thinking of the Vail vacation in 1969?

[riley]

1972 january 8 elvis celebrates his birthday by announcing that Pris has decided to move into her own place in LA (Holmby Hills I suppose) Lisa is with her


February 23: Vegas Pris tells him she intends to file for divorce and he goes immediately to California where he discovers that she and Lisa have alreaddy moved out of the house (Holmby Hills I suppose again)


April 20 1972: After a tour, Elvis flies straight to Hawaii to meet Pris and Lisa, along with other friends and family. He will spend most of May at the rainbow towers in Hawaii Village, much of the time is spend in seclusion, he does go to Honolulu to watch a karate exhibition



july 27 1972: California, Priscilla files for a normal seperation from Elvis





August 18 1972 Elvis files for divorce in LA. Pris does not contest




August 27 1972: Pris travels with Lisa Marie to Vegas to see his show. They remain through the last week of the run




November 14 - 15 1972 Long Beach Arena LIsa and Priscilla are there to watch the show



December 22 1972: Lisa Marie arrives in Memphis . Priscilla remains in LA

December 25 1972: Linda is there to celebrate together with the family





February 1973 (1) Elvis is in Vegas doing shows, Lisa is there with Pris, Michelle and the Beaulieu's to celebrate her fifth birthday




February 19 1973 Priscilla refuses to allow a visit from Lisa Marie. Elvis is enraged.



May 29 1973: Priscilla contests the original terms of the divorce settlement




JUly 3 1973Omni Atlanta over 17000 attend the final concert of the Southern tour.
Elvis then flies immediately back to Memphis to prepare for Lisa's impending visit. She will spend the month at Graceland .



October 9 1973: the settlement for Priscilla is ironed out and the divorce is finalized in LA. Elvis is present at the hearing and they exit the courtroom together. Agreement is generous and they have shared custody of Lisa


October 12 1973 Elvis returns to Palm Springs upset and angry but trying to hide it.



November 14 1973: Elvis and some of the boys drive to LA to see Lisa Marie and Priscilla




December 16 1973: Lisa arrives in Memphis to spend her holiday with her dad


December 25 1973: Christmas at Graceland is a dreary affair this year. The day passes almost unnoticed and presents sit unopened. Elvis is clearly depressed and spend days in his bedroom.





December 25 1974: A very quiet Christmas at Graceland. It is rumoured that Elvis tried to unsuccessfully to talk to Priscilla into spending it with him and the rest of the family.

[riley]

A bit of info I typed out.

IMO there was a lot of visitation still of Pris until settlement was final.

Where are the periods Lisa was kept away for months from him.


Was it before her fifth birtday that he didn't see her for a long period...


OR


was it more after the contestation of the settlement....

[Suzan]

I heard it was after she left Memphis that he did not know for weeks where they were.

Lisa got to see her dad a lot, more then other children who's parent's live in seperate States (America).

She was already in the Holmby Hills house, maybe they are referring to her leaving Graceland?

And them being @ his concerts is nothing new, we've known that for years.

[Suzan]

I forgot to address this lol...the Hawaii trip, it says he spent most of it in seclusion, doesn't sound like he interacted w/Pris a whole lot and there are reports from that time that he was @ Graceland, and he'd said to one of the maids that Pris was in Hawaii w/Stone...so this is not making sense to me.

[Suzan]

And did you notice she did keep her away from him, denied visitation, prior to the new settlement?

[riley]

Therefor I typed it out. it comes from a book "The Elvis Encyclopedia"

It does not make sense to me neither that they were together in Hawaii , after she left...

Maybe it was just meeting her there for a brief moment and not really a holiday together, and who knows perhaps she was there indeed with Mike and Lisa.


Some details we will never know.

Indeed I see lapses in time of seeing Lisa.
Both after her leaving and her fifth birthday and ever contesting the settlement.

[Suzan]

Therefor I typed it out. it comes from a book "The Elvis Encyclopedia"

It does not make sense to me neither that they were together in Hawaii , after she left...

Maybe it was just meeting her there for a brief moment and not really a holiday together, and who knows perhaps she was there indeed with Mike and Lisa.


Some details we will never know.

Indeed I see lapses in time of seeing Lisa.
Both after her leaving and her fifth birthday and ever contesting the settlement.

Thank you very much for typing it out.:D :hug:

You are right about we'll never know for sure, but it is odd, and in Guralnick's book "Elvis day by day" I don't see any mention of a holiday together either, though I'll hunt some more maybe I missed it. And again I've heard she was there w/Mike, and Lisa was not w/them, according to one of the MM.

[riley]

Where was Lisa then??

[Getlo]

Absolutley I do. Imo, he missed her dearly until the day he died and had alot to do with the depression he went through the last four years of his life.

Any "depression" (ahem ...) he felt was due to the ego blow and missing Lisa. He moved on to Linda very quickly and enjoyed many years with her, and plenty of others.

Aside from popping out his kid, I really feel Cilla's significance in his heart is exaggerated.

She was his "project" that went horribly wrong.

Loved her? Puh-lease ...

[utmom2008]

1972 january 8 elvis celebrates his birthday by announcing that Pris has decided to move into her own place in LA (Holmby Hills I suppose) Lisa is with her


February 23: Vegas Pris tells him she intends to file for divorce and he goes immediately to California where he discovers that she and Lisa have alreaddy moved out of the house (Holmby Hills I suppose again)


April 20 1972: After a tour, Elvis flies straight to Hawaii to meet Pris and Lisa, along with other friends and family. He will spend most of May at the rainbow towers in Hawaii Village, much of the time is spend in seclusion, he does go to Honolulu to watch a karate exhibition



july 27 1972: California, Priscilla files for a normal seperation from Elvis





August 18 1972 Elvis files for divorce in LA. Pris does not contest




August 27 1972: Pris travels with Lisa Marie to Vegas to see his show. They remain through the last week of the run




November 14 - 15 1972 Long Beach Arena LIsa and Priscilla are there to watch the show



December 22 1972: Lisa Marie arrives in Memphis . Priscilla remains in LA

December 25 1972: Linda is there to celebrate together with the family





February 1973 (1) Elvis is in Vegas doing shows, Lisa is there with Pris, Michelle and the Beaulieu's to celebrate her fifth birthday




February 19 1973 Priscilla refuses to allow a visit from Lisa Marie. Elvis is enraged.



May 29 1973: Priscilla contests the original terms of the divorce settlement




JUly 3 1973Omni Atlanta over 17000 attend the final concert of the Southern tour.
Elvis then flies immediately back to Memphis to prepare for Lisa's impending visit. She will spend the month at Graceland .



October 9 1973: the settlement for Priscilla is ironed out and the divorce is finalized in LA. Elvis is present at the hearing and they exit the courtroom together. Agreement is generous and they have shared custody of Lisa


October 12 1973 Elvis returns to Palm Springs upset and angry but trying to hide it.



November 14 1973: Elvis and some of the boys drive to LA to see Lisa Marie and Priscilla




December 16 1973: Lisa arrives in Memphis to spend her holiday with her dad


December 25 1973: Christmas at Graceland is a dreary affair this year. The day passes almost unnoticed and presents sit unopened. Elvis is clearly depressed and spend days in his bedroom.





December 25 1974: A very quiet Christmas at Graceland. It is rumoured that Elvis tried to unsuccessfully to talk to Priscilla into spending it with him and the rest of the family.
Wasn't it October 10th,1973 that Elvis had a pretty serious overdose? I know Jerry talks about in his book.....

[renapap05]

I believe that he loved her. After all she was the mother of his only child. But I don't think he was really the "husband type", if you know what I mean.

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[dstrattenfan]

She was the mother of his child so of course he loved her

[MissyM]

Yes he did, Elvis didn't stop loving very easily. He was also beholdin to her for giving him Lisa. But I do feel that things happen which degrade a love people once have. Part of that love starts to die off, so to speak. Sometimes where love once lived, resentment, and anger take it's place. Does not mean that part of the love isn't alive, just isn't what it used to be. It becomes a different version in ways.

[ehollier]

Yes he did, Elvis didn't stop loving very easily. He was also beholdin to her for giving him Lisa. But I do feel that things happen which degrade a love people once have. Part of that love starts to die off, so to speak. Sometimes where love once lived, resentment, and anger take it's place. Does not mean that part of the love isn't alive, just isn't what it used to be. It becomes a different version in ways.

In any relationship, people experience different phases of love. It happens with any couple with every relationhip. The birth of a child, the death of a close friend or relative, changes in lifestyle or career. What Elvis and Priscilla experienced is no different than any other couple. But you just have to stick it out during the down times because the good times more than make up for the bad/down ones. You can't always live your life on a high. It wouldn't make the good times special. Maybe Elvis and Priscilla didn't or couldn't understand that. And they did have a unique situation as they lived in the spotlight and his career was not the normal.

[Diane]

I agree, every marriage goes through phases over the years good and bad but Elvis and Priscilla's lives weren't the norm and for a couple to be able to weather the bad times they have to both want the marriage to work out and Priscilla didn't. I think a lot of it was due to the fact that these two people didn't have much in common right from the beginning other than physical attraction and that's not enough for any relationship to last.

Diane

[presley31]

I agree, every marriage goes through phases over the years good and bad but Elvis and Priscilla's lives weren't the norm and for a couple to be able to weather the bad times they have to both want the marriage to work out and Priscilla didn't. I think a lot of it was due to the fact that these two people didn't have much in common right from the beginning other than physical attraction and that's not enough for any relationship to last.

Diane

yes and lets not forget marriages don`t go to far with guys always around all the time either.

[epmoodyblue]

:hmm:course he loved priscilla very much (y)his only true love..he liked linda being around her..but it wasint love.wasint in love with her.......some of u may recall the famous visit elvis payed priscilla in summer of 76....so the story goes elvis went to ask priscilla to get back together again....elvis said he was willing to give it all up ..to get back like the good old days with cilla:king::newyear:

[dstrattenfan]

Not only did Pris keep Lisa from him before his death but she kept her from Elvis's family after his death!! Billy Smith says as much in Revelations from the MM

[presley31]

:hmm:course he loved priscilla very much (y)his only true love..he liked linda being around her..but it wasint love.wasint in love with her.......some of u may recall the famous visit elvis payed priscilla in summer of 76....so the story goes elvis went to ask priscilla to get back together again....elvis said he was willing to give it all up ..to get back like the good old days with cilla:king::newyear:

I heard this story, but not sure how true it is though?

[presley31]

Not only did Pris keep Lisa from him before his death but she kept her from Elvis's family after his death!! Billy Smith says as much in Revelations from the MM

what do you mean pris Kept lisa away from elvis before his death?? That isn't true according to lisa and another thing lisa did spend time at graceland till vernon died.

[epmoodyblue]

I heard this story, but not sure how true it is though?im not sure either:hmm:... if it did happen....nayways thats what priscilla says....so i dunnohttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f137/bellaselena/icon_sad.gifbut i wouldint be surprised if it s a true story...guess u know some of the story.....seems elvis poured out his heart that night sayin to cilla he was tired of it all....he said to cilla what are the fans screaming for?..pointing to his body he was outta shape..he said he would give it all up to get together again..then she said no:'( ...in agentlle way....elvis hugged her he got into limousine..guards in limo asked elvis how did it go boss......with tears down his face elvis said ..its over she said no something like that:lmfao:......dramatic stuff..perfect for a movie:lmfao:.........who knowshttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f137/bellaselena/icon_sad.gif

[epmoodyblue]

Not only did Pris keep Lisa from him before his death but she kept her from Elvis's family after his death!! Billy Smith says as much in Revelations from the MM:lol: its obvious u really hate cilla:lol:....eh there both to blame for what happened i guess..they both made lots of mistakes.... most fans will be always in elvis corner..im neutral:lmfao::newyear:

[easyrider]

l think he loved her,i'm sure.

[dstrattenfan]

:lol: its obvious u really hate cilla:lol:....eh there both to blame for what happened i guess..they both made lots of mistakes.... most fans will be always in elvis corner..im neutral:lmfao::newyear:

No I don't hate her but that is what was stated in Revelations from the MM and Billy was there for E when Pris wasen't and that is a fact, And if u read my other posts I have always stated they BOTH WERE TO BLAME

[epmoodyblue]

No I don't hate her but that is what was stated in Revelations from the MM and Billy was there for E when Pris wasen't and that is a fact, And if u read my other posts I have always stated they BOTH WERE TO BLAMEYEAH I FEEL THE SAME WAY THERE WERE DEF BOTH TO BLAME FOR HOW THINGS TURNED OUT:king::newyear:

[riley]

that final visitation to her house did happen and is also mentionned by Joe's girlfriend Shirley Dieu and I think (not sure) also mentionned in the book of Edwards and of goldmann.

[Donut]

that final visitation to her house did happen and is also mentionned by Joe's girlfriend Shirley Dieu and I think (not sure) also mentionned in the book of Edwards and of goldmann.

Is that the same visit when Shirley says Priscilla was laughing at Elvis behind his back?

[riley]

yep Donut and it gave us a total different picture indeed then what was offered to the broad public in the film Elvis and Me.

In some book , don't recall which one (my memory is failing because I read to many)
it is also mentionned that Elvis his stopbye didn't exactly suited Pris at all because her lover Ellie was waiting for her in their bed on the upper floor. That too isn't seen in the film.

[Donut]

yep Donut and it gave us a total different picture indeed then what was offered to the broad public in the film Elvis and Me.


Thanks Riley. I know ;)

[MissyM]

I'm not sure what transpired at that meeting. But just because Elvis had a "moment", I don't read too much into it. He had moments also where he was disgusted in her too. Like the time she wanted to borrow the Lisa Marie. Amazing! She doesn't want him but wants his jet to jaunt around with her friends???

[dstrattenfan]

Is that the same visit when Shirley says Priscilla was laughing at Elvis behind his back?

I have said that a hundred time about her laughing at him but it just gets ignored

[Donut]

I have said that a hundred time about her laughing at him but it just gets ignored

I'm sorry dstrattenfan, I didn't notice you mentioned it. Anyway that's one of these things you don't believe if you like Priscilla and it's believable if you don't.

[riley]

it keeps amazing me MissyM that she dared to go that far. I mean asking him to borrow the Lisa Marie to gon on a trip with her lover.....

She had really no shame at all did she....

By the way I do believe that she mocked him indeed like Shirley tells in her story

[epmoodyblue]

yep Donut and it gave us a total different picture indeed then what was offered to the broad public in the film Elvis and Me.

In some book , don't recall which one (my memory is failing because I read to many)
it is also mentionned that Elvis his stopbye didn't exactly suited Pris at all because her lover Ellie was waiting for her in their bed on the upper floor. That too isn't seen in the film.:hmm::blink:what?.first time i hear this part of the story...that her lover Ellie was waiting for her in their bed on the upper floor......wow poor elvis..well its a def(n) to cilla...and lookie that part wasint mentioned in the film ..figures(n)(n)(n)(n),,,,i dont think she ws laughing at elvis behind his back..this i dont believe,,,and i guess elvis picked the wrong day to visit her.lover was there:lmfao:what a story unvelievablehttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f137/bellaselena/icon_sad.gifbut its true...so why didint cilla include that part of her lover was upstairs when elvis visited ..shame on her.(n).she cant tell it as it really happened...would of made her look bad with the fans...shes a sneaky but smart woman

[presley31]

:hmm::blink:what?.first time i hear this part of the story...that her lover Ellie was waiting for her in their bed on the upper floor......wow poor elvis..well its a def(n) to cilla...and lookie that part wasint mentioned in the film ..figures(n)(n)(n)(n),,,,i dont think she ws laughing at elvis behind his back..this i dont believe,,,and i guess elvis picked the wrong day to visit her.lover was there:lmfao:what a story unvelievablehttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f137/bellaselena/icon_sad.gifbut its true...so why didint cilla include that part of her lover was upsairs when elvis visited ..shame on her.(n).she vant tell it as it really happened...would of made her look bad with the fans...shes a sneaky but smart woman

It may be ture or maybe not everything is hearsay.

[riley]

smart she is indeed.

I think it was in Edwards his book and that he had gotten it right from Priscilla's mouth. She was the one who told him she felt a little bit uncomfy because she had Ellie waiting upstairs and was afraid that El would go upstairs......

Well it was her right ofcourse to have her lover staying overnight, they were sperated but to me it is a bad feeling because it is portrayed all so innocent in the film. If she lies about such things well then she will probably lie and cover up lots of other things too.

The laughing at him was in detail mocking him because of the sportsuits with zipper he weared. She found it a funny sight obviously and kept on laughing and joking about his outfit.

[presley31]

smart she is indeed. I think it was in Edwards his book and that he had gotten it right from Priscilla's mouth. She was the one who told him she felt a little bit uncomfy because she had Ellie waiting upstairs and was afraid that El would go upstairs......

Well it was her right ofcourse to have her lover staying overnight, they were sperated but to me it is a bad feeling because it is portrayed all so innocent in the film. If she lies about such things well then she will probably lie and over up lots of other things too.

The laughing at him was in detail mocking him because of the sportsuits with zipper he weared. She found it a funny sight obviously and kept on laughing and joking about his outfit.

sorry riley l but l have a hard time believing all that man has said about priscilla. i think he was bitter he didn't make it with priscilla.

[riley]

Yep Edwards wasn't mister nice guy at all I realise that Jen so indeed it stays hearsay on that part. Nobody but Pris knows who was in the bed that night ofcourse but the mocking part was eyewitnessed by someone else and here again we can just like with every story come to the same conclusion.

Either we like her and trust her and we put everything under the carpet that is written about her and classify it as lies because they were just jealous of her

or we don't like her that much and don't trust her that much and do believe the various sources who mentions her in a negative way....

That is the funny part. We discuss Pris over and over and over but she has one advantage here we ALWAYS come to the same conclusion. We are never sure, since we were not there......

It keeps us busy but we never ever get answers , do we....

[epmoodyblue]

smart she is indeed.

I think it was in Edwards his book and that he had gotten it right from Priscilla's mouth. She was the one who told him she felt a little bit uncomfy because she had Ellie waiting upstairs and was afraid that El would go upstairs......

Well it was her right ofcourse to have her lover staying overnight, they were sperated but to me it is a bad feeling because it is portrayed all so innocent in the film. If she lies about such things well then she will probably lie and cover up lots of other things too.

The laughing at him was in detail mocking him because of the sportsuits with zipper he weared. She found it a funny sight obviously and kept on laughing and joking about his outfit.:lmfao:imagine if elvis went upstairs and found that ellie .:lol:..cilla is a smart fox..she let elvis go to lisas room instead:lmfao:......im starting to hate cilla(n)..its too bad elvis had that moment and decided after all those years to visit her in person ...i dont think she would be laughing behind his back 4 very long had elvis quickly walked up those stairs and found ellie:lmfao:.(n)to cilla(y) for elvis:notworthy

[presley31]

Yep Edwards wasn't mister nice guy at all I realise that Jen so indeed it stays hearsay on that part. Nobody but Pris knows who was in the bed that night ofcourse but the mocking part was eyewitnessed by someone else and here again we can just like with every story come to the same conclusion.

Either we like her and trust her and we put everything under the carpet that is written about her and classify it as lies because they were just jealous of her

or we don't like her that much and don't trust her that much and do believe the various sources who mentions her in a negative way....

That is the funny part. We discuss Pris over and over and over but she has one advantage here we ALWAYS come to the same conclusion. We are never sure, since we were not there......

It keeps us busy but we never ever get answers , do we....

Nope riley cause no matter how much we reseach or talk too everyone going to have different storys to tell and than we are at sqaure one again and really l don't think we will ever know the real stuff what happened behind closed doors. One thing comes to mind where was linda when elvis showed up at priscilla after that ski trip?? We need to keep a open mind that people can say what they like and it doesn't make it true. Lots of people were jealous of priscilla from the begining to the end and that doesn't help when you seaching for the turth about someone when you got people being bitter and jelaous.

[presley31]

:lmfao:imagine if elvis went upstairs and found that ellie .:lol:..cilla is a smart fox..she let elvis go to lisas room instead:lmfao:......im starting to hate cilla(n)..its too bad elvis had that moment and decided after all those years to visit her in person ...i dont think she would be laughing behind his back 4 very long had elvis quickly walked up those stairs and found ellie:lmfao:.(n)to cilla(y) for elvis:notworthy

With all due respect but elvis and priscilla weren't togther so really why can't priscilla do as she pleases in her own home and elvis did just drop in without saying he was coming.

[epmoodyblue]

Nope riley cause no matter how much we reseach or talk too everyone going to have different storys to tell and than we are at sqaure one again and really l don't think we will ever know the real stuff what happened behind closed doors. One thing comes to mind where was linda when elvis showed up at priscilla after that ski trip?? We need to keep a open mind that people can say what they like and it doesn't make it true. Lots of people were jealous of priscilla from the begining to the end and that doesn't help when you seaching for the turth about someone when you got people being bitter and jelaous.yeah guess we wil never know the exact truth what really happened that night in 76 when the king visited that cheating cilla:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[riley]

indeed but perhaps better he didn't found Ellie there.

Elvis had Linda too ofcourse and they also slept together and all but still it stays painful for the ex partner to witness.

My point is, I'm OK with the fact she slept with her boyfriend but not her constantly lying and twisting of the truth to make her look the innocent one. In every story she tells , we can read between the lines she was the victim, the one left behind, the one cheated upon etc etc and that makes me often upset but here we go again ofcourse.....

She keeps having the benefit of the doubt because noone can PROOVE what is right and what is wong. Only pictures don't lie so luckily we still have the pics of her and Stone and Ezrer or otherwise soon they too would be vanish under the trademark of invented persons just out of plain jealousy towards Cilla.....