New city council board could kill plans for Graceland

[keke23]

I receieved an email today tellin me to check this out.

It doesn't sound too encouraging. The city could really mess this up for the fans, Elvis and Graceland's longevity in Memphis and most importantly....our strugglin economy.

Hopefully Marshall gets the meetin and this gets settled quickly before a new city seat is filled.

Reported by Janice Broach
City councilman has big plans for Graceland

Sep 28, 2007 05:19 PM PDT

Before he leaves office, Memphis City Council Chairman Tom Marshall has a list of things he wants to accomplish. One of them involves Graceland.

More than half of the Memphis City Council will be made up of new council members next year. Marshall is afraid it could mean projects could die if not approved before the end of the year.

It is an ambitious and pricey plan to transform Graceland and the area around it into a $150 million entertainment district with high technology exhibits, park areas, shows, hotels, restaurants and more.

The mogul who wants to pull it off is Robert Sillerman. But he needs council help.

"We believe that is a paramount issue to that particular area of this community. Elvis is probably the most famous and recognizable name coming out of Memphis and we believe this is a worthwhile adventure. We believe this is going to wonders.".

Bob Sillerman has bought quite a bit of property along Elvis Presley Blvd. And some houses in the area as well. The housing property has to be rezoned from residential to commercial.

Sillerman will need rezoning approval from the council. It needs to pass three readings. And there isn't enough time before the end of the year for that unless there is a specially called meeting in December, something Marshall is trying to make happen.

"You can see the danger of someone who has a lot of money on the line going through two readings then having a new council and then having its third reason. Its simply too dangerous, the prospect economic loss is to great," adds Marshall.

Marshall is afraid a new council might want to study the project which would delay it and possibly kill it.

The council will also have to approve $250,000 to build a gateway to Graceland and improve the area.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7144160

[keke23]

Oh and btw, for those who said EPE doesn't lie.....they posted on the collector's forum back in February that there were no plans to buy up residential homes, and Sillerman already did.

My source told me he was gonna do that, and he did. So who's source is real now?

[EDOEP]

I receieved an email today tellin me to check this out.

subscribing to google-alert is far more effective - and provides the same or probably more information 'personal emails' do. :D



It doesn't sound too encouraging. The city could really mess this up for the fans, Elvis and Graceland's longevity in Memphis and most importantly....our strugglin economy.

why be so negative?

why does this NOT sound too encouriging? just because there IS the possibility of sillerman's plans getting put on hold? well. that possibility always exists, so what!? the question is: how LIKELY is it this will happen?

there also exists every single day of your life the possibility that a roof-tile from your neighbour's house drops right onto your head and kills you. is it very likely and hence your chances to survive the next day 'not too encouraging'?

even if members in boards change ... they all have economy and commercial development as a very high priority - if not as priority number one.

no matter if they personally like elvis or regard the 600,000 fans as 'weirdos' ... they all know who butters their bread. elvis / EPE / sillerman is a major factor in that game, so why should they stop development? he is memphis' number one attraction.

there is absolutely no logic behind in stopping plans. that's why i think there MIGHT be delays (MIGHT! nor WILL!), but certainbly no complete stop for whitehaven's redevelopment.


More than half of the Memphis City Council will be made up of new council members next year. Marshall is afraid it could mean projects could die if not approved before the end of the year.

see above - also new members like their bread buttered and would like to be re-elected, wouldn't they?


Sillerman will need rezoning approval from the council. It needs to pass three readings. And there isn't enough time before the end of the year for that unless there is a specially called meeting in December, something Marshall is trying to make happen.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7144160

mr. marshall seems to care a lot - if the readings don't pass till then end of 2006 ... they probably will pass sometime in 2007 :D. who cares in the final end about the date?

or will readings be out of style after new year's eve?

IMHO, i don't understand that negative approach and attitude.

ellie

PS anybody can post any information on a board claiming the source is EPE. how does one verify or falsify that?

one better relies on sources like renowned newspapers (commercial appeal, NY times, fortune) and EPE's / CKX own homepages. i remember there was information in spring that they would buy property in the area surrounding GL.

[keke23]

subscribing to google-alert is far more effective - and provides the same or probably more information 'personal emails' do. :D



why be so negative?

why does this NOT sound too encouriging? just because there IS the possibility of sillerman's plans getting put on hold? well. that possibility always exists, so what!? the question is: how LIKELY is it this will happen?

there also exists every single day of your life the possibility that a roof-tile from your neighbour's house drops right onto your head and kills you. is it very likely and hence your chances to survive the next day 'not too encouraging'?

even if members in boards change ... they all have economy and commercial development as a very high priority - if not as priority number one.

no matter if they personally like elvis or regard the 600,000 fans as 'weirdos' ... they all know who butters their bread. elvis / EPE / sillerman is a major factor in that game, so why should they stop development? he is memphis' number one attraction.

there is absolutely no logic behind in stopping plans. that's why i think there MIGHT be delays (MIGHT! nor WILL!), but certainbly no complete stop for whitehaven's redevelopment.



see above - also new members like their bread buttered and would like to be re-elected, wouldn't they?



mr. marshall seems to care a lot - if the readings don't pass till then end of 2006 ... they probably will pass sometime in 2007 :D. who cares in the final end about the date?

or will readings be out of style after new year's eve?

IMHO, i don't understand that negative approach and attitude.

ellie

PS anybody can post any information on a board claiming the source is EPE. how does one verify or falsify that?

one better relies on sources like renowned newspapers (commercial appeal, NY times, fortune) and EPE's / CKX own homepages. i remember there was information in spring that they would buy property in the area surrounding GL.

I got the email from my close friend and source, who keeps me informed about city developments,who knows folks on the current board.

Marshall is sayin that the new city council will look at it in a different way then the current one does and the delay could cause certain city powers to want "their" sum in it and cause it to all fall apart.

Sillerman doesn't worry me. It's the thought of it all fallin apart that does, and that would kill Whitehaven and Graceland as a community altogether.

Memphis as a city, is heavily known for screwin up great opportunities and possibilities and wonderin later why the city is so messed up financially and economically.

And I don't know what world you live in, but here in the states....it's already 07, about to be 08, lol.

EPE posted now and then at both forums to clear up rumros or whatever they wanted fans to think. It really was them.

[Stryx]

Oh and btw, for those who said EPE doesn't lie.....they posted on the collector's forum back in February that there were no plans to buy up residential homes, and Sillerman already did.

My source told me he was gonna do that, and he did. So who's source is real now?

Just to wade in but people do change their minds and nothing is exactly set in stone if it is only being rumoured!!

[Stryx]

I receieved an email today tellin me to check this out.

It doesn't sound too encouraging. The city could really mess this up for the fans, Elvis and Graceland's longevity in Memphis and most importantly....our strugglin economy.

Hopefully Marshall gets the meetin and this gets settled quickly before a new city seat is filled.

Reported by Janice Broach
City councilman has big plans for Graceland

Sep 28, 2007 05:19 PM PDT

Before he leaves office, Memphis City Council Chairman Tom Marshall has a list of things he wants to accomplish. One of them involves Graceland.

More than half of the Memphis City Council will be made up of new council members next year. Marshall is afraid it could mean projects could die if not approved before the end of the year.

It is an ambitious and pricey plan to transform Graceland and the area around it into a $150 million entertainment district with high technology exhibits, park areas, shows, hotels, restaurants and more.

The mogul who wants to pull it off is Robert Sillerman. But he needs council help.

"We believe that is a paramount issue to that particular area of this community. Elvis is probably the most famous and recognizable name coming out of Memphis and we believe this is a worthwhile adventure. We believe this is going to wonders.".

Bob Sillerman has bought quite a bit of property along Elvis Presley Blvd. And some houses in the area as well. The housing property has to be rezoned from residential to commercial.

Sillerman will need rezoning approval from the council. It needs to pass three readings. And there isn't enough time before the end of the year for that unless there is a specially called meeting in December, something Marshall is trying to make happen.

"You can see the danger of someone who has a lot of money on the line going through two readings then having a new council and then having its third reason. Its simply too dangerous, the prospect economic loss is to great," adds Marshall.

Marshall is afraid a new council might want to study the project which would delay it and possibly kill it.

The council will also have to approve $250,000 to build a gateway to Graceland and improve the area.

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=7144160

This new group would want to be pretty dumb to pass up the opportunity to expand Memphis's greatest tourist attraction.

It would benefit not only the city but also the whole state.

[EDOEP]

I got the email from my close friend and source, who keeps me informed about city developments,who knows folks on the current board.

as i said - one does not need 'close friends' - yahoo alert or google alert deliver the news instantly into the inbox :D


Marshall is sayin that the new city council will look at it in a different way then the current one does and the delay could cause certain city powers to want "their" sum in it and cause it to all fall apart.

mr. mrshall says so? how does mr. marshall know weeks or months ahead how his fellows in the city council finally are going to vote?

interesting interpretation of 'democracy'.

and even IF the new city council does not vote in favour of mr. sillerman .... it's still the result of the memphian voters' opinion. they elected these members and probably had a slight idea what these gentlemen's general direction on the city's future will be.

so it was THEIR choice anyway.

'all fall apart' - there won't be 'all falling apart'. maybe changes and some improvements outside the GL area are not made. this does neither stop mr. sillerman / EPE to maintain GL's present standard nor does it affect any improvements on their current property as it is. only plans for so far undevelopped areas MIGHT be affected.


Sillerman doesn't worry me. It's the thought of it all fallin apart that does, and that would kill Whitehaven and Graceland as a community altogether.

see above on the 'all' ... and i hardly doubt memphian politicians will 'kill' GL - since they don't own it. or do they? :'(

even if GL was located in a slum - still hundreds of thousands would come to visit. maybe a couple less than in a nicely developped area. but it certainly won't stop fans pouring in.

i don't regard GL to be 'doomed', no matter the outcome of these readings.


Memphis as a city, is heavily known for screwin up great opportunities and possibilities and wonderin later why the city is so messed up financially and economically.

well, then it's the result of voters having made the wrong choices ....


And I don't know what world you live in, but here in the states....it's already 07, about to be 08, lol.

i live in a world of logic, reason, facts and efficiency - mainly :). no space for hysteria and loads of 'ifs'.


EPE posted now and then at both forums to clear up rumros or whatever they wanted fans to think. It really was them.

well, if we all know this by now and you knew long before .... why care a sh** about their posts anyway if everybody knows they lie?

as i said: i prefer to reliable sources like the NYT, the FT etc. etc. and there WERE announcements about acquisitions planned. so I was NOT surprised to see it happen.

maybe you should re-think what sources you would like to listen to, drop the crappy ones and subscribe to the daily newsletters of more reliable publications. would save you surprises :P in the future.

ellie

[presley31]

who knows whats going to happen but l like to hear stuff.

[Suzan]

Could you please post the email you recv'd you can do so like Getlo did where u blank out the name, etc...:)
Also, wow another thread like this?
Sillerman already got state/federal assist Corp. Welfare.:D:D:D:D
Graceland will not be touched, either way, Lisa still owns that home, only thing changing is the surrounding areas.
Please post something positive...or something in the present instead of stories w/"sources" and long into the future speculation.
I think we just need to wait and see.
FOr those interested I have posted a thread about Zippin Pippin but this individual can be reached via email and they can tell you directly much more so then a "source" that's cloaked.:D

[Suzan]

EXCELLENT point EDOEP...:D:D:D:D:D Hugs!

[keke23]

Could you please post the email you recv'd you can do so like Getlo did where u blank out the name, etc...:)
Also, wow another thread like this?
Sillerman already got state/federal assist Corp. Welfare.:D:D:D:D
Graceland will not be touched, either way, Lisa still owns that home, only thing changing is the surrounding areas.
Please post something positive...or something in the present instead of stories w/"sources" and long into the future speculation.
I think we just need to wait and see.
FOr those interested I have posted a thread about Zippin Pippin but this individual can be reached via email and they can tell you directly much more so then a "source" that's cloaked.:D

First of all, I'm gettin tired of your lil arrogant attitude towards me. So you better check yourself, okay?

The story was on the news website, so it's not "old news" and it could influence somethin negative towards the plans for Whitehaven and Graceland.

I don't have to provide a **************** thing to you. You aint nobody but another fan who wants to be all up in the know of LMP and Cilla's a$$ and think she's better than everyone else. Just like a few folks said in PM's to me. So I'm not the only one seein it.

My source is someone (a friend) who I've known for a while who aint been wrong yet. And I aint post a thing that wasn't true or that didn't become realistic. So stop hatin.

Lastly, this is the last time I'm gonna respond to your obnoxious posts. Because if I do, I might regret what I gotta say to your ignorant butt and get banned. So back the he!! up off me, girlfriend.

And mods, if I said anything out of line here.....then it's because of this ***** arrogant poster always startin crap with me, actin as if she knows everything.

[Suzan]

WOW very defensive...and are you threatening me again?
Could care less about your pm's if they don't have the nerve to say it to me then well, water off my back.:D:D:D:D
Jealousy is an ugly thing, I'm not up anyone's anything, I just happened to be lucky enough to meet them and spend time w/me.:D:D:D:D:D
Don't hate.:)
Oh and for all those "saying" things in pm's...hmmm I say consider the source. roflmao
I think your posts speak for themselves and your language and responses even louder.
Just as I thought.:)

[Suzan]

I don't know everything, but neither do you hon...though via posts you seem to want to.:D
Only arrogance displayed is via you.

[keke23]

WOW very defensive...and are you threatening me again?
Could care less about your pm's if they don't have the nerve to say it to me then well, water off my back.:D:D:D:D
Jealousy is an ugly thing, I'm not up anyone's anything, I just happened to be lucky enough to meet them and spend time w/me.:D:D:D:D:D
Don't hate.:)
Oh and for all those "saying" things in pm's...hmmm I say consider the source. roflmao
I think your posts speak for themselves and your language and responses even louder.
Just as I thought.:)

Your posts show just how arrogant you are. And I can't stand arrogant folks. Goes to show what I think about you.

[Suzan]

And this has what to do w/me? This affects me or my life how?
You have to love yourself before anyone else can love you.
I agree arrogance is not always good.:)
Don't hate, jealousy is an ugly gree eyed thing...move past it.

[Suzan]

For those who'd like proof pm me.:D

[keke23]

For those who'd like proof pm me.:D

Proof of what? That you're an arrogant *****?

And why is it that all my posts lately you've turned into all about you tryin to look like some insider info?

Get over it girl.....you aint all that as much as you think you are. And your lil fan site is a joke, btw.

[Suzan]

Proof of what? That you're an arrogant *****?

And why is it that all my posts lately you've turned into all about you tryin to look like some insider info?

Get over it girl.....you aint all that as much as you think you are. And your lil fan site is a joke, btw.


Awe thank you for taking the time to visit, I'm sorry you aren't as creative. :( Your all about insults aren't you? Gee nothing changes does it?
I was referring to your ip honey I have the proof.:D
I'm not the one claiming I know what Mr. Sillerman is up to baby, that is you.
And if you knew half what I did you'd be blabbing all over the forum...so lets not throw stones when we live in a glass house.:D:D:D:D
Or are you going to resort back to threatening and claiming discrimination?
I'm all that and then some. ROF you wish you were so lucky.:D
And your posts aren't about anything but bs and meant to make people mad...you really need to get over yourself, truly.:D
Muah, hugs, someone once told me we need to give hugs to those that don't or can't love themselves...so lots and lots of hugs.

[Suzan]

BTW I've said it b4 if you don't believe write email and verify w/LMP or her peeps.:D
Unlike some I don't hide and I have proof.:D

[Getlo]

So who's source is real now?

Er, well, if you're referring to that bogus story about Graceland being bulldozed for a highway, I'd have to say the answer is ... my two sources!(y)

[Suzan]

Er, well, if you're referring to that bogus story about Graceland being buldozed for a highway, I'd have to say the answer is ... my two sources!(y)

Gawd your awesome Getlo, thank you! :notworthy:notworthy
also debunked Sillerman involved in Zippin Pippin.

[Getlo]

Sillerman doesn't worry me. It's the thought of it all fallin apart that does, and that would kill Whitehaven and Graceland as a community altogether.

You're kidding! If these new developments from BS don't go through, Graceland will stay as is ... ie, continue to make money with the 600,000 people (and rising) who make it there each year. Yes, Whitehaven needs a cleanup, but it's hardly on the verge of becoming a total slum.

And I have to say, that from what I've seen so far of these new developments, I hope the whole thing doesn't go through!

The whole exercise is way too slick, and the info thus far from BS and apparent other "sources" (ahem ...) is vague and incomplete. But we have discussed our opinions about the developments on another thread.

[Suzan]

You're kidding! If these new developments from BS don't go through, Graceland will stay as is ... ie, continue to make money with the 600,000 people (and rising) who make it there each year. Yes, Whitehaven needs a cleanup, but it's hardly on the verge of becoming a total slum.

And I have to say, that from what I've seen so far of these new developments, I hope the whole thing doesn't go through!

The whole exercise is way too slick, and the info thus far from BS and apparent other "sources" (ahem ...) is vague and incomplete. But we have discussed our opinions about the developments on another thread.

Your very good w/words, wish I could be so eliquent at times...:D:D:D:D
Thank you for this post, it is sooo VERY TRUE what you've said, even if these plans fall thru (which I don't see happening as Sillerman has recv'd corp. welfare assist.) Graceland and the Whitehaven area will not really lose, the fans will still continue to go to Graceland, still continue to spend the $$$ at the shops and what have you, so really nothing will change. :)

[U.S. Male]

ENOUGH of the name calling :cop:

Everyone needs to cool it.....starting now

[EDOEP]

now it happened.... the hearing has been deferred :).

so far no details about house-redecorations. just the wellknown issues about a new hotel, a visitor center etc..

maybe the ever-so-arduous mr. marshall was not arduous enough? who knows, who knows ....

hugs, ellie

Graceland Zoning Issue Among Deferred Council Items

ANDY MEEK | The Daily News

Memphis City Council members will attend three more meetings together before most of them leave office at the end of the year. As their terms draw to a close, an agenda set by council chairman Tom Marshall back in September is shaping much of the last-minute business the council is pursuing.

It's also creating a to-do list that will require action after the New Year.

Marshall originally had drawn up an 11-point action plan to guide the current council's final days. One of those 11 tasks had called for the council quickly scheduling a vote to approve a rezoning request needed as part of the large-scale redevelopment of Graceland, the famous home of Elvis Presley, along with the neighborhood around it.

That item has been punted down the road for the new council to address.

"The Graceland rezoning application just couldn't make it, because it came down to a matter of timing," Marshall said, referring to the fact that council ordinances must be voted on three times. "They simply couldn't make application in time in order for this council to go through three readings.

"So instead of jeopardizing that huge financial initiative with two readings before one council and then another reading before a new council, they've elected to start their initial presentation to the new council," he said, "which I actually recommended to them to do."

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3898/112107thirdstorypg1domift8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
IN THE BUILDING: CKX Chairman Robert F.X. Sillerman stands in front of Graceland after meeting with the managers of Elvis Presley Enterprises in July. Sillerman is now the majority owner of the company. Managers of Presley's famous home want to overhaul its tourist complex with a new visitors center bigger than a football field, a convention hotel and high-tech museum displays that can give a new, digital life to the King himself. -- AP PHOTO/GREG CAMPBELL


'Tremendous' but close to the vest

As far as what that presentation will consist of or the details surrounding the need for that rezoning, Marshall isn't saying. Whatever they are, Elvis Presley Enterprises - the corporation that officially conducts and manages Elvis-related business - apparently intends to make a big announcement about the effort soon.

"I can't tell you specifically what they'll be doing," Marshall said. "But I can tell you in very large and general terms that they are going to be pursuing a tremendous, unprecedented financial infusion to the current Graceland site. And they're going to be requiring council action to make it a reality. That action will include zoning and other potential community enhancement initiatives."

The most recent annual report of CKX Inc., which acquired an 85 percent ownership stake in EPE in February 2005, hints at what those efforts entail. Company officials already have held several meetings with local government officials in Memphis about revamping Graceland.

That redevelopment effort includes "building an expanded visitors center, developing new attractions and merchandising shops and building a boutique convention hotel," CKX management writes in the annual report. "This project is conditioned on a number of factors including obtaining necessary approvals and concessions from local and state authorities and attracting an appropriate hotel partner."


Hit the road, Jack

Meanwhile, the council revisited a contentious item this week that's also part of its late-term agenda but seemingly had been put to bed. Council members passed a recall ordinance earlier this month that would allow - under certain conditions - voters to boot a councilman from office.

"The committee met and met and met and met some more - and then we met a couple more times - and finally voted to recommend approval," said council member Brent Taylor about the ordinance at the group's Nov. 6 meeting.

However, the ordinance was worded in such a way that it would allow a certain amount of time to pass before the council member in question could be recalled.

"That's not the way we intended it," Marshall said. "So we put it through a legal workshop ... to tweak it before we approve the minutes in order to pass it the way we intended.

"And we intended that if a council member has been deemed inappropriate for that office and the constituents of that district sign a petition in sufficient number, then there will be an expeditious decision as to the fate of that council member. That's so they do not become a lingering distraction to the other council members."

source: memphis daily news
http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial/StoryLead.aspx?id=99860

[presley31]

ENOUGH of the name calling :cop:

Everyone needs to cool it.....starting now

Thank you BBM, (y)

[Getlo]

Thank you BBM, (y)

BBM's warning was posted two months ago!

[presley31]

BBM's warning was posted two months ago!

Thanks for update

[presley31]

now it happened.... the hearing has been deferred :).

so far no details about house-redecorations. just the wellknown issues about a new hotel, a visitor center etc..

maybe the ever-so-arduous mr. marshall was not arduous enough? who knows, who knows ....

hugs, ellie

Graceland Zoning Issue Among Deferred Council Items

ANDY MEEK | The Daily News

Memphis City Council members will attend three more meetings together before most of them leave office at the end of the year. As their terms draw to a close, an agenda set by council chairman Tom Marshall back in September is shaping much of the last-minute business the council is pursuing.

It's also creating a to-do list that will require action after the New Year.

Marshall originally had drawn up an 11-point action plan to guide the current council's final days. One of those 11 tasks had called for the council quickly scheduling a vote to approve a rezoning request needed as part of the large-scale redevelopment of Graceland, the famous home of Elvis Presley, along with the neighborhood around it.

That item has been punted down the road for the new council to address.

"The Graceland rezoning application just couldn't make it, because it came down to a matter of timing," Marshall said, referring to the fact that council ordinances must be voted on three times. "They simply couldn't make application in time in order for this council to go through three readings.

"So instead of jeopardizing that huge financial initiative with two readings before one council and then another reading before a new council, they've elected to start their initial presentation to the new council," he said, "which I actually recommended to them to do."

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3898/112107thirdstorypg1domift8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
IN THE BUILDING: CKX Chairman Robert F.X. Sillerman stands in front of Graceland after meeting with the managers of Elvis Presley Enterprises in July. Sillerman is now the majority owner of the company. Managers of Presley's famous home want to overhaul its tourist complex with a new visitors center bigger than a football field, a convention hotel and high-tech museum displays that can give a new, digital life to the King himself. -- AP PHOTO/GREG CAMPBELL


'Tremendous' but close to the vest

As far as what that presentation will consist of or the details surrounding the need for that rezoning, Marshall isn't saying. Whatever they are, Elvis Presley Enterprises - the corporation that officially conducts and manages Elvis-related business - apparently intends to make a big announcement about the effort soon.

"I can't tell you specifically what they'll be doing," Marshall said. "But I can tell you in very large and general terms that they are going to be pursuing a tremendous, unprecedented financial infusion to the current Graceland site. And they're going to be requiring council action to make it a reality. That action will include zoning and other potential community enhancement initiatives."

The most recent annual report of CKX Inc., which acquired an 85 percent ownership stake in EPE in February 2005, hints at what those efforts entail. Company officials already have held several meetings with local government officials in Memphis about revamping Graceland.

That redevelopment effort includes "building an expanded visitors center, developing new attractions and merchandising shops and building a boutique convention hotel," CKX management writes in the annual report. "This project is conditioned on a number of factors including obtaining necessary approvals and concessions from local and state authorities and attracting an appropriate hotel partner."


Hit the road, Jack

Meanwhile, the council revisited a contentious item this week that's also part of its late-term agenda but seemingly had been put to bed. Council members passed a recall ordinance earlier this month that would allow - under certain conditions - voters to boot a councilman from office.

"The committee met and met and met and met some more - and then we met a couple more times - and finally voted to recommend approval," said council member Brent Taylor about the ordinance at the group's Nov. 6 meeting.

However, the ordinance was worded in such a way that it would allow a certain amount of time to pass before the council member in question could be recalled.

"That's not the way we intended it," Marshall said. "So we put it through a legal workshop ... to tweak it before we approve the minutes in order to pass it the way we intended.

"And we intended that if a council member has been deemed inappropriate for that office and the constituents of that district sign a petition in sufficient number, then there will be an expeditious decision as to the fate of that council member. That's so they do not become a lingering distraction to the other council members."

source: memphis daily news
http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial/StoryLead.aspx?id=99860

Good read, Thanks for posting

[Diane]

Good article, thank for posting Jen.

Diane

[presley31]

Good article, thank for posting Jen.

Diane

LOL it was Ellie that posted it diane:blush:

[Diane]

Thank you Ellie....sorry.:blush:

Having those kind of days lately Jen...thanks for letting me know.


Diane

[EDOEP]

you are welcome!

after this topic - these topics - always cause as much uproar as they are interesting for the fans i thought we should calm things down with recent news from a respectable and reliable publication.

hugs, ellie

[Getlo]

i thought we should calm things down with recent news from a respectable and reliable publication.

Yes, it makes a pleasant change having news such as this delivered with an actual source for the material (or something that wasn't written several years ago) and without the usual hyperbole. Thanks. (y)

[cameron]

you are welcome!

after this topic - these topics - always cause as much uproar as they are interesting for the fans i thought we should calm things down with recent news from a respectable and reliable publication.

hugs, ellie
Yes, thank you !! When I started reading at the beginning of this thread, I thought; "Oh no, not another one. ":'(
Anyway, thanks for your update ....appreciated .(y)

[Diane]

It doesn't look like we'll have to worry about Graceland becoming another Disneyland or Dolly World. Nothing was mentioned about a possible amusement park although I would like to see the Zippin Pippin saved and installed across the road or outside the immediate Graceland property.

Cleaning up the area around the mansion would be nice.

Diane

[Getlo]

I would like to see the Zippin Pippin saved and installed across the road or outside the immediate Graceland property.

Then the mansion would become like an amusement park!!! ;)

As was discussed on the Zippin Pippin thread, this ride has nothing to do with Elvis, except for the fact that he rode it a few dozen times. And the Zippin Pippin that remains is not the exact same one he used anyway.

There has to be a limit when it comes to stuff Elvis used or whatever. If the city wants to preserve it, put it in a park or something away from Graceland.

[presley31]

It doesn't look like we'll have to worry about Graceland becoming another Disneyland or Dolly World. Nothing was mentioned about a possible amusement park although I would like to see the Zippin Pippin saved and installed across the road or outside the immediate Graceland property.

Cleaning up the area around the mansion would be nice.

Diane
l agree diane

[Diane]

Well Getlo, if this is not the exact ride Elvis enjoyed then the heck with it! I wouldn't have wanted to see it close to the mansion either but it wouldn't have bothered me if it was across the street or down the road somewhere without candy apple, cotton candy stands and not used for tourists....just sitting there maybe surrounded by a fence.

Diane

[keke23]

I don't have much time, but here's what I know.

I just got off the phone with my source, he says this aint what it seems like.

The pushback was not the city's doin, but more Sillerman's aggressiveness.

Sillerman is still buyin up land, mostly houses behind and around Graceland.

Do yall remember when Jay posted a rumor I told him about a large residential buyout? Stay tuned.:D

That's all I gotta say on that.

As for the Pippin.......it is the original coaster, so I don't know where Getlo got his info from, but it's definitely wrong.

Elvis used to rent out Libertyland on a few occasions over the last few years of his life and would ride it all night long.

All i can say is....the BIG announcement is comin very soon.;)

[Johnny]

oh dear .....here we go again

[EDOEP]

oh dear .....here we go again

:hug:

you say it, my friend :doh: :'(.

hugs, ellie

[Getlo]

I don't have much time, but here's what I know. I just got off the phone with my source, All i can say is....the BIG announcement is comin very soon.;)

You are just unbelievable ... :blink:(n):blink:;):blink:

[Diane]

Well I'm not going to listen to anymore, I'm sticking with the article Ellie posted. She posted her source....the article.

Diane

[rocknroll]

I must have missed this thread the first time around.

Wow. Some of the name calling by Lakeisha that went unchecked is unbelievable.

She has a lot of hatred pent up inside her.

[KPM]

You know the wheels of Government are notoriously slow-nothing happens overnight. Whatever is in the works takes time and setbacks are to be expected. If it all gets set and done quick fine-if it takes a lot longer fine.
I mean I do not see any need for urgent rush to start with. Graceland will still be there whether or not a huge new set of complexes is built or not. If I visit Graceland in Memphis thats truely all I'd be worried about.

[keke23]

Getlo and Ellie, I didn't say anything wrong.

I just posted what I was told, by someone who I know is as reliable as anyone on here, who happens to be connected to someone in high places in Memphis politics.

That's all I can say about that person.

Like I said before.....my source has yet to be wrong.:)

The article was right.....it has been pushed back. But they aint lettin yall know the real reason why.

It has to do more with Sillerman wantin to buy up an entire neighborhood and that's slowin things down a lil bit.

For that to happen, the city would have to rezone the entire area around Graceland, and there aint enough time to draw up the rezonin plans before the end of the year.

The article says that as well, about lack of time.

My source did say that the cost will be more than what the media led on to back in August.

I didn't even read the article until I saw this thread bumped up then saw it.

It aint even in the CA or on our local news here.

But my source already told me when I started this topic that this could possibly happen, but the biggest worry was that it would be the city holdin it back, not Sillerman,. So that's great news so far to hear it's HIM and not our council puttin it on hold.

All that means is......he aint done buyin up land and space yet.

I did read where Soden said Sillerman doesn't downscale, but upscales his ideas to be bigger.

So maybe he's plannin more than what's been mentioned.

But I doubt it'll include a theme park or amusement park.

Now, for the person who said they'd like to see the Pippin across from graceland......be careful what you ask for.

I've heard rumors around here lately, from different sources, sayin there's gonna be a strong push to save Libertyland and relocate it.

3 locations that's been rumored, Whitehaven, Overton Park, and Millington.

If it's moved to Whitehaven, you can bet it will be on EPB, down from Graceland, and because of it's ties to Elvis.

There's about 50-60 acres of forrest down that way that could be where they'd located it, down past my former school, Whitehaven High.

That'd be about 3 or 4 miles, I guess.

But before yall go quotin me on this.....it's just a rumor.

The city really doesn't wanna save it period.

But too many folks do.

KPM, ITA!

[utmom2008]

I must have missed this thread the first time around.

Wow. Some of the name calling by Lakeisha that went unchecked is unbelievable.

She has a lot of hatred pent up inside her.
You are right Rocknroll. I can't believe those posts were allowed to stay up considering what has been removed earlier this week. ;););)

[EP75]

I just got home from work and saw the email Lakeisha sent me and also saw the News Alert on my Yahoo page.:( I was disappointed when I first read the article and saw it delayed. I hope this delay is just a short term thing ans this new planned project gets done soon. It's already going to take at least 3 years or longer to complete. And I am not getting any younger. Anna has been wanting me to take her to Graceland. But I convinced her to wait to see the whole new experience in a couple of years. Hopefully we will still be together by then. Lakeisha I just hope you are right about it not being a big deal. I am hoping as a life long fan who has always wanted to see Graceland become something more than just for his fans but a place that the world would take more serious.

Hey Lakeisha, I just noticed we were both on at the same time. I guess that means we can quit being called the same. LOL :)

[EDOEP]

Well I'm not going to listen to anymore, I'm sticking with the article Ellie posted. She posted her source....the article.

Diane

dear diane,

.... like i always do whenever i have it at hand, and which IMHO is the proper state of the art for starting discussions on topics of speculative nature.

of course no one can always provide sources for each posting, that would mean the end of each board.

otherwise i make clear i read something somehwere but either don't have the source at hand or can't remember exacxtly, so everybody knows right from the start about the level of credibility.

what people are fed up with about lakeisha's & EP75's postings is the presentation of rumours or statements from very doubtful sources as given facts. plus, even worse: only hearsay from an alleged source that something sometime maybe somehow will happen ...... they should change their nicks to 'nostradamus1' and 'nostradamus 2' :lmfao:.

hugs, ellie

[EDOEP]

Getlo and Ellie, I didn't say anything wrong.

I just posted what I was told, by someone who I know is as reliable as anyone on here, who happens to be connected to someone in high places in Memphis politics.

That's all I can say about that person.

you post what you're 'told'!?!?!?

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

hey,

then i herewith tell you to stop posting such rubbish! i am very reliable, believe me :secret:.

.... or do you sometimes listen to these little voices that speak to some people out of nowhere ...... only sitting in their little heads .... :hmm

[Suzan]

you post what you're 'told'!?!?!?

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

hey,

then i herewith tell you to stop posting such rubbish! i am very reliable, believe me :secret:.

.... or do you sometimes listen to these little voices that speak to some people out of nowhere ...... only sitting in their little heads .... :hmm

I posted my source as well...by name and email...and she told me via phone (yes I ACTUALLY SPOKE to this lady) stated that the 2 city councel men are NOT on the up & up and 1 not running for office again due to the scandals he generated...(names were given by poster of their "source" when pressed but could also be found w/a click of a button on web page of Memphis City Councel.;)) These "sources" were discredited by both EPE, Sillerman's office and the Zippin Pippin folks who were trying to save it.

I can't believe the posts were left either....

People lets please let this thread die, it deserves to be allowed to rest in peace.

[Suzan]

BTW...there is a thread on here posted after this one, contradicting the content here...lol

[LaQuisha]

I must have missed this thread the first time around.

Wow. Some of the name calling by Lakeisha that went unchecked is unbelievable.

She has a lot of hatred pent up inside her.

It's a crying shame, isn't it ?

I've been viewing this forum for the better part of a year and I've watched as Lakeisha has tore into people for no apparent reason, yet, she constantly acts as if she is the one being victimized, and, more often than not, gets away with her belligerent stance.

IMHO, she is an unpleasant, derisive, ungracious and bitter presence on this forum.

[Getlo]

Hey Lakeisha, I just noticed we were both on at the same time. I guess that means we can quit being called the same. LOL :)

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Suzan]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

ROF no kidding...ummm NOT! LOLOLOLOL

[Sonny]

Get back on topic here...

Stop this foolishness. If someone posts what he or she heard or read, discuss, not start these personal attacks. Not talking to one person, to all of you.

How many warnings are we expect to give about being insulting, or say things that are not a direct insult but on the edge?

This warning not just goes for this thread but all of them. We like everybody's input, but once again, respect each other!

Sonny

[keke23]

The crime is gettin worse everyday in Whitehaven.

That's why this big redevelopment plan needs to happen ASAP!!

If it don't, then you will see crime grow emensly around Graceland to where it'll be unsafe for visitor's to go there.

It's already gettin to the point where the visitors are told to be careful around Graceland and don't stay in the area.

That's why I'm 1000% for this plan.

It benefits the hood as much as it does Sillerman's pockets.

[Tony Trout]

The crime is gettin worse everyday in Whitehaven.

That's why this big redevelopment plan needs to happen ASAP!!

If it don't, then you will see crime grow emensly around Graceland to where it'll be unsafe for visitor's to go there.

It's already gettin to the point where the visitors are told to be careful around Graceland and don't stay in the area.

That's why I'm 1000% for this plan.

It benefits the hood as much as it does Sillerman's pockets.


I don't usually post in these threads but I'll bite the bullet and I'll agree with you wholeheartedly, Lakeisha.

When I was there nearly four years ago and a guy walked out of a restaurant without paying for anything he'd gotten and nobody even dared to alert the cops....:supriced:(n)

Whitehaven and the area around Graceland (NOT THE MANSION ITSELF) needs a major overhaul---BIG-TIME!!!

[EP75]

A lady that my mother used to work with was robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight outside the mansion's gates back in the late 80's and shot in the head. Fortunately she lived to tell her story. But her husband was killed. Not the way you plan to spend a vacation.

Another sad story I remember hearing about was back in 1997 during either his birthday celebration or the anniversary month 2 teenage black females were walking along side the front gates and stopped to look up at the house when a van drove by and shot them to death. The killers were teenage girls from the neighborhood and assumed the girls they shot were from a rival gang but were mistaken and killed as innocent bystanders. This was a lead story on Geraldo Rivera's talk show back in the 90's. They had one of the girl's mother on there and one of the killers via video feed from prison. The girls got life in prison for their crimes.

So I can see why there would be a great deal of support from the residents there for this massive expansion to clean up that area and to turn Graceland into a world class attraction..