what do you think would of happend to graceland if Memphis took control of it??

[presley31]

Whats your thoughts??

[Getlo]

As I satted in another thread:

Cilla's idea to open Graceland in 1982 was a fine one. But the main reason she gave - ie, if we don't open up the house, it will be lost forever - simply doesn't add up.

If the city of Memphis did adopt the house (instead of making it into a proper tourist attraction) then it would be quietly maintained, in a similar way to other historic houses across the US. There was already enough money floating around from record sales etc to have maintained Graceland, at least as an historic site.

I've also been saying for a few years now (and I'm sure this may offend some people) that I think Graceland should eventually close to the public, and let Elvis rest in proper peace. From a money standpoint, EPE, Cilla and Lisa have made enough money to last 100 lifetimes. So I say, close it to visitors in a few years: give fans plenty of warning.

This proposed new whizz-bang Graceland visitors centre would be enough to keep fans happy. Yes, I know it would seem strange going to Memphis without going through the actual house, but enough will be enough one day, and Elvis' proper dignity needs to be returned.

But now with Bob "BS" Sillerman and his money-grubbing cohorts, the concept of Graceland as a proper resting place for Elvis has gone forever.

Visiting Graceland is a privilege for Elvis' fans. But many see it as their right, which it most certainly isn't. We have no right to expect it to be around forever.

And personally, I think Elvis would literally vomit at what his beloved house has become in the past couple of years.

[presley31]

I think Its great fans get a chance to see graceland. Elvis loved his home why not share it with people who loved him? I don't think we would of gotten a chance to see inside graceland or see elvis toys if Memphis took over. I think it would become lost, cause there wasn't much money left to keep it running if it wasn't open to the public.

[Getlo]

Or, at the very least, close down the gravesite to the public - with the possible exception for the Candlelight Vigil every August. And even this is becoming more and more of a circus with each passing year.

Let Elvis rest truly in peace.

[Getlo]

I think it would become lost, cause there wasn't much money left to keep it running if it wasn't open to the public.

That's my point. There was enough money to maintain the house as an historic site.

If Cilla's intention to open Graceland was to save it from "going under", then that mission was accomplished years ago.

And remember, Elvis shared his house with people whom he invited there.

[Rover]

I guess if Memphis owned Elvis' house they'd try to make as much money as they could...the attraction of this place must speed up the city economy a little :)
Honestly I think they should close this house to the public...I find all the fuzz around Graceland a bit morbid in fact, same thing about Elvis' grave. Maybe visiting the town is ok, but I wouldn't feel comfortable in such places. Anyone else feels the same?

[ksimms2]

Rover, have you ever been to Graceland? I have in June - only once so far, but I can't wait to go back. I can understand where Getlo is coming from though....but I'd hate to see them close his house to his fans....

[Rover]

No I never went here. And I'm not sure I want to go to Graceland. Well, I think I'd love to see the house and the town but not *enter* it. Call me a weirdo but I wouldn't like that ^^
When you went to Graceland, you felt at your ease all the time? :)

[ksimms2]

yes I did....it felt almost like he was there....I guess from being in the house and seeing all his things - even though you can't touch....but it was even better when I went back at the end of the day and got to see stuff without the crowds. Now that was incredible, walking through the house again, with nobody bothering me....through the jungle room, etc. It was amazing.....I'd love to go back.....and will eventually...save up some more $$ because when I go - I like to buy stuff.....lol.

[Donut]

As I satted in another thread:

Cilla's idea to open Graceland in 1982 was a fine one. But the main reason she gave - ie, if we don't open up the house, it will be lost forever - simply doesn't add up.

If the city of Memphis did adopt the house (instead of making it into a proper tourist attraction) then it would be quietly maintained, in a similar way to other historic houses across the US.

I agree with your statements 100%.
It would be lost to her (as if many of us cared) and it would be maintained like any other historic house wich i find would be more respectful.

[Diane]

I agree with Getlo and Donut. As much as I would love to see the inside of Graceland, I'd rather it was just maintained as a historical site with respect to Elvis as opposed to the money maker it is now.

Diane

[EP75]

I guess many of you have no idea that back in 1980 the city wanted to buy the home and bulldoze it to run a new massive highway expansion through that area. Priscilla saved it by pitching the idea to the city that opening Graceland to the public as a national tourist attraction would bring in money to the city that they hadn't seen in a while and the city needed it at the time. Just as the city need these upcoming changes to improve their struggling economy. This along with the fact that Lisa had nothing to fall back on from her dad's life or the money. So the financial problems would be settled with what EPE could make off of tours. The estate didn't even have the money back then to purchase the land to the north of the mansion as they have today and had to settle for turning the strip mall into the plaza.

These were the only real reasons why the mansion was opened to the public back in 1982 at a cost of $5 million for operation.

[Donut]

I guess many of you have no idea that back in 1980 the city wanted to buy the home and bulldoze it to run a new massive highway expansion through that area. Priscilla saved it by pitching the idea to the city that opening Graceland to the public as a national tourist attraction would bring in money to the city that they hadn't seen in a while and the city needed it at the time. Just as the city need these upcoming changes to improve their struggling economy. This along with the fact that Lisa had nothing to fall back on from her dad's life or the money. So the financial problems would be settled with what EPE could make off of tours. The estate didn't even have the money back then to purchase the land to the north of the mansion as they have today and had to settle for turning the strip mall into the plaza.

These were the only real reasons why the mansion was opened to the public back in 1982 at a cost of $5 million for operation.

I?m not going to argue with you because i can see you are fixated with your EPE and Graceland expansion wonder and you are free to do it really but your statement about Memphis wanting to buldoze the house of one of their worldwide known legendary residents is more than impossible. Do you think they were drooling toodlers or what?

[presley31]

I guess many of you have no idea that back in 1980 the city wanted to buy the home and bulldoze it to run a new massive highway expansion through that area. Priscilla saved it by pitching the idea to the city that opening Graceland to the public as a national tourist attraction would bring in money to the city that they hadn't seen in a while and the city needed it at the time. Just as the city need these upcoming changes to improve their struggling economy. This along with the fact that Lisa had nothing to fall back on from her dad's life or the money. So the financial problems would be settled with what EPE could make off of tours. The estate didn't even have the money back then to purchase the land to the north of the mansion as they have today and had to settle for turning the strip mall into the plaza.

These were the only real reasons why the mansion was opened to the public back in 1982 at a cost of $5 million for operation.

I agree with you on this one. Lisa wouldn't of seen a single cent since elvis had hardy no money. I'am glad it was open to the public cause l for want to see it.

[Tony Trout]

As I stated in another thread:

Cilla's idea to open Graceland in 1982 was a fine one. But the main reason she gave - ie, if we don't open up the house, it will be lost forever - simply doesn't add up.

If the city of Memphis did adopt the house (instead of making it into a proper tourist attraction) then it would be quietly maintained, in a similar way to other historic houses across the US. There was already enough money floating around from record sales etc to have maintained Graceland, at least as an historic site.

I've also been saying for a few years now (and I'm sure this may offend some people) that I think Graceland should eventually close to the public, and let Elvis rest in proper peace. From a money standpoint, EPE, Cilla and Lisa have made enough money to last 100 lifetimes. So I say, close it to visitors in a few years: give fans plenty of warning.

This proposed new whizz-bang Graceland visitors centre would be enough to keep fans happy. Yes, I know it would seem strange going to Memphis without going through the actual house, but enough will be enough one day, and Elvis' proper dignity needs to be returned.

But now with Bob "BS" Sillerman and his money-grubbing cohorts, the concept of Graceland as a proper resting place for Elvis has gone forever.

Visiting Graceland is a privilege for Elvis' fans. But many see it as their right, which it most certainly isn't. We have no right to expect it to be around forever.

And personally, I think Elvis would literally vomit at what his beloved house has become in the past couple of years.

I agree wholeheartedly.


Or, at the very least, close down the gravesite to the public - with the possible exception for the Candlelight Vigil every August. And even this is becoming more and more of a circus with each passing year.

Let Elvis rest truly in peace.


100% spot on with this post.



I guess many of you have no idea that back in 1980 the city wanted to buy the home and bulldoze it to run a new massive highway expansion through that area. Priscilla saved it by pitching the idea to the city that opening Graceland to the public as a national tourist attraction would bring in money to the city that they hadn't seen in a while and the city needed it at the time. Just as the city need these upcoming changes to improve their struggling economy. This along with the fact that Lisa had nothing to fall back on from her dad's life or the money. So the financial problems would be settled with what EPE could make off of tours. The estate didn't even have the money back then to purchase the land to the north of the mansion as they have today and had to settle for turning the strip mall into the plaza.

These were the only real reasons why the mansion was opened to the public back in 1982 at a cost of $5 million for operation.

Where in the world did you get that information from? I've never heard of the reason for her opening the mansion was the possibility of Graceland being bulldozed...that's crazy!!

[EP75]

The city wanted the land for a new expanded highway. Simple as that.

[presley31]

Or, at the very least, close down the gravesite to the public - with the possible exception for the Candlelight Vigil every August. And even this is becoming more and more of a circus with each passing year.

Let Elvis rest truly in peace.

Why shouldn't people be allowed to show there respect with candles at elvis grave?? I would love to be part of that anyday.

[Getlo]

Why shouldn't people be allowed to show there respect with candles at elvis grave?? I would love to be part of that anyday.

Yes, if Elvis was buried in a public cemetery like, say, JFK.

But Elvis is buried in his former home. The older I get, the more undignified I think it is to have people traipsing past his grave each and every day.

A memorial garden as part of this hideous new Graceland expansion would be appropriate.

But let the man rest in peace.

[JudyMcKinn]

I have to say that I think Elvis would be honored that so many of his fans want to pay their respects at his grave. He loved his fans, and he loved being "THE KING" and having fans who loved him. I think he would be happy to still be remembered, and loved by so many.
Let's face it, he IS resting in peace. Nothing we can do about that, tho I sure would have if I could have, back in '77. And he would be at a cemetery --was originally -- till they were afraid he would be dug up, or the grave molested, which is why he is now at graceland--not to keep people from paying respects at his grave.
And, If I am not mistaken, I remember the deal about the city wanting to put a highway thru where his home is. Better to have it this way than not to have it. Just my opinion.

[King_Creole]

So, I guess the reason why Cilla opened Graceland to the public in 1982 is because Memphis was going to bulldoze Elvis' home down ... :(

When does this absurdity end ?

Please, give us some more insight and help us along with your insightful and informative knowledge EP75 ...

What source/s do you greatfully bring this (ridiculous news) to the forefront of the Elvis world ... ?

I have one guess ... :)

[Natalie]

I agree with you on this one. Lisa wouldn't of seen a single cent since elvis had hardy no money. I'am glad it was open to the public cause l for want to see it.

I think it is wonderful that Graceland is open to the pubic and I think it is important that it remain open for the future generations of Elvis fans. One of my dear friends who is a big Elvis fan has been to Graceland 6 times so far. It is so important for him to pay his respects and to participate in Elvis week. I believe Elvis would not mind at all that his home has become such a tourist attraction. I believe he would be so touched that so many care so much.(y)

[MissyM]

He left Graceland to family. Why? He did not leave it to Pricilla to make an amusement park out of. He meant for it to stay with family. It was their home for years. There we gates on there to keep fans out. He did not like fans who over-stepped his space. Yes, he invited many into his space but that is entirely different. I see both sides because I know how much it means to the fans. But I will never say that he would have wanted it. I bet the place is haunted with more than one ghost!

[presley31]

He left Graceland to family. Why? He did not leave it to Pricilla to make an amusement park out of. He meant for it to stay with family. It was their home for years. There we gates on there to keep fans out. He did not like fans who over-stepped his space. Yes, he invited many into his space but that is entirely different. I see both sides because I know how much it means to the fans. But I will never say that he would have wanted it. I bet the place is haunted with more than one ghost!

Priscilla didn't make it out to be a amusement park, She opened it to save her daughter invest from elvis. If it wasn't for priscilla there could of been a highway through elvis graceland.

[presley31]

I think it is wonderful that Graceland is open to the pubic and I think it is important that it remain open for the future generations of Elvis fans. One of my dear friends who is a big Elvis fan has been to Graceland 6 times so far. It is so important for him to pay his respects and to participate in Elvis week. I believe Elvis would not mind at all that his home has become such a tourist attraction. I believe he would be so touched that so many care so much.(y)

well said natalie(y)(y)

[Getlo]

If it wasn't for priscilla there could of been a highway through elvis graceland.

Again, this is another "fact" going around the Elvis world with no proof. Why on earth would Memphis have been stupid enough to put a higway through Graceland? EP75 / Lakeisha has yet to respond to others on here with how and why he came to post this "theory" on here.

And not to say I was across everything back then, but as a teenager in 1982, I kept up with every single thing about Elvis and the Graceland opening, and not once did I read about this.

presley31, do not believe everything you read, nor every post from someone who supposedly has "inside information" directly from the people at Graceland.

[presley31]

Again, this is another "fact" going around the Elvis world with no proof. Why on earth would Memphis have been stupid enough to put a higway through Graceland? EP75 / Lakeisha has yet to respond to others on here with how and why he came to post this "theory" on here.

And not to say I was across everything back then, but as a teenager in 1982, I kept up with every single thing about Elvis and the Graceland opening, and not once did I read about this.

presley31, do not believe everything you read, nor every post from someone who supposedly has "inside information" directly from the people at Graceland.

You don't like what l post don't read and answer it, its as simple as that!!!!!

[Getlo]

You don't like what l post don't read and answer it, its as simple as that!!!!!

Perhaps you could apply this sound advice to yourself?

Yet again, presley31, you cannot distinguish between someone not liking something you said and someone simply disagreeing with what you have posted.

You are hands down the most aggressive poster on here when someone disagrees with you, or asks you to expand your ideas beyond a single sentence. You get very uptight if someone says something you disgaree with; then when someone else offers up an expanded version of what you'd like to say, all you do is post "Well said (insert name here)".

Believe me, if I disliked one of your posts, you'd soon know it (see my response yesterday to EngimaticSun's dusgusting post re Jesus and his own sex life ...)

The fact is, we're all waiting for EP75 / Lakeisha to tell us where he heard or read that a highway was to be built through Graceland ... and I'd be interested to know where you heard that yourself and why you say it's true.

But, of course, I do not expect a response beyond the usual ...

Have a good day.

(We really should take this over to the Colonel management thread ...)

[Stryx]

Again, this is another "fact" going around the Elvis world with no proof. Why on earth would Memphis have been stupid enough to put a higway through Graceland? EP75 / Lakeisha has yet to respond to others on here with how and why he came to post this "theory" on here.

And not to say I was across everything back then, but as a teenager in 1982, I kept up with every single thing about Elvis and the Graceland opening, and not once did I read about this.

presley31, do not believe everything you read, nor every post from someone who supposedly has "inside information" directly from the people at Graceland.


Well said! A Highway through Graceland belongs with those who say the King is set to be dug up to prove he's dead/alive!

Some people...!

[presley31]

I didn't say it was true, but have read that else too. We will never know the real reason besides money problems as to why graceland was opened.

[Getlo]

Well said! A Highway through Graceland belongs with those who say the King is set to be dug up to prove he's dead/alive!

Some people...!

Ah, another voice of reason!

And a belated welcome to the forum ...

[MissyM]

Pricilla did that to turn it into a multi-million dollar inheritance. There was enough in that house that all/or most contents and personal effects could have been sold to keep the house(itself) for a long while. And then any of the proceeds would have gone into her trust. Then that money could have been invested. Just now the original piano is being sold. It was in the basement because Pricilla bought Elvis a new one. Lisa ownes that, why sell it now? Do you know what Elvis stuff goes for at an auction? There were ways, don't be fooled. It isn't as if Lisa wanted to keep it to live in it. Why not just sell it? That's what they did with the other homes?? Oh and what happened to that money?? That story that Pricilla made sure got out there about them owing back taxes and they had no other choice is a bunch of bulloney!
Oh and look at the timing of it all. Nothing could be done till Grandma died. Technically she owned a portion of that home till she died.

[keke23]

Perhaps you could apply this sound advice to yourself?

Yet again, presley31, you cannot distinguish between someone not liking something you said and someone simply disagreeing with what you have posted.

You are hands down the most aggressive poster on here when someone disagrees with you, or asks you to expand your ideas beyond a single sentence. You get very uptight if someone says something you disgaree with; then when someone else offers up an expanded version of what you'd like to say, all you do is post "Well said (insert name here)".

Believe me, if I disliked one of your posts, you'd soon know it (see my response yesterday to EngimaticSun's dusgusting post re Jesus and his own sex life ...)

The fact is, we're all waiting for EP75 / Lakeisha to tell us where he heard or read that a highway was to be built through Graceland ... and I'd be interested to know where you heard that yourself and why you say it's true.

But, of course, I do not expect a response beyond the usual ...

Have a good day.

(We really should take this over to the Colonel management thread ...)

Excuse me, but why was my name dragged into this?

But since you included me into this....I'll give my personal view and knowledge on this subject.

You say you kept up with everything concernin Graceland back then, but truth of the matter is unless you lived in Memphis back in 82, before I was born, you couldn't possibly known everything that was reported by our local media.

The internet wasn't known to exist back then. So how could you keep up with everything written or spoken abut Graceland or Elvis? There's no way.

Jay and the other person who said that about the city wantin to buy it aint lyin. There's nothin false about what they said. It's true it was ind anger of demolition.

I don't know the exact facts, but it's been mentioned around here before about how Graceland was almost bought by the city, until Cilla saved it and opened it to the public.

From what I''ve heard.....there was supposed to be a major interstate/highway connecting from Memphis International Airport across to EPB and Graceland was supposedly in the way of it.

But because Graceland wasn't bought by the city and opened to the public.....it killed the highway project and neighborhoods started growin through that area east of Graceland, north of MI airport where the highway was to go.

The next time you're in Memphis, go to the Chamber Of Commerce or library and look it up in their archives.

[MissyM]

I'm sure the price wasn't quite to Pricilla's liking even if they were to buy it.

[keke23]

Pricilla did that to turn it into a multi-million dollar inheritance. There was enough in that house that all/or most contents and personal effects could have been sold to keep the house(itself) for a long while. And then any of the proceeds would have gone into her trust. Then that money could have been invested. Just now the original piano is being sold. It was in the basement because Pricilla bought Elvis a new one. Lisa ownes that, why sell it now? Do you know what Elvis stuff goes for at an auction? There were ways, don't be fooled. It isn't as if Lisa wanted to keep it to live in it. Why not just sell it? That's what they did with the other homes?? Oh and what happened to that money?? That story that Pricilla made sure got out there about them owing back taxes and they had no other choice is a bunch of bulloney!
Oh and look at the timing of it all. Nothing could be done till Grandma died. Technically she owned a portion of that home till she died.


I'm sorry, but you're wrong about this.

First of all, Graceland was in financial dept after Elvis died.

Vernon and Elvis' aunt and grandmother remained livin there and the upkeepin was costin them a fortune.

This was why the city thought they could buy the home and then do whatever they needed to with it. But Cilla stepped in for Vernon who was too sick and old and took control, under his permission.

Dodger Presley didn't own Graceland legally. She just lived there as a resident, as did his aunt, Delta Mae.

Vernon owned Graceland and when he died it went to LMP.

I used to stay close to Graceland where my grandfatehr lived, and me and my cousin and best friend Ebony used to walk down to the gates.

I knew a lot about it as I got older and about Elvis as well.

That's how I became a fan.

[keke23]

I'm sure the price wasn't quite to Pricilla's liking even if they were to buy it.

At that time, it was only worth about 200,000 dollars.

[Getlo]

You say you kept up with everything concernin Graceland back then, but truth of the matter is unless you lived in Memphis back in 82, before I was born, you couldn't possibly known everything that was reported by our local media.

The internet wasn't known to exist back then. So how could you keep up with everything written or spoken abut Graceland or Elvis? There's no way.



Oh, please! It was the 1980s ... not the 1880s!!! Television, newspapers, fan club magazines, word of mouth etc etc. The Elvis fan world (and the world in general when it comes to news) is exactly as connected as it was back then. It's just that news travels faster these days; the actual amount getting through hasn't changed one jot.

Additionally, I wrote for the Elvis Monthly, many US magazines and was in contact with Graceland myself regularly from 1980 to 1984 or so. And in contact with several fanclubs worldwide.

You were born prior to 1982? Well, as a child of the sixties, I'd suggest you couldn't possibly know what communications were like back then!

And I'd rather have the person / people claiming this story was true to put up the information on this site themselves. It is neither my place nor my inclination to do so myself.

I'm not saying this story isn't true, but please provide proof before bandying about stuff like this.

[presley31]

Great information Lakeiska, some believe some don't.

[keke23]

Oh, please! It was the 1980s ... not the 1880s!!! Television, newspapers, fan club magazines, word of mouth etc etc. The Elvis fan world (and the world in general when it comes to news) is exactly as connected as it was back then. It's just that news travels faster these days; the actual amount getting through hasn't changed one jot.

Additionally, I wrote for the Elvis Monthly, many US magazines and was in contact with Graceland myself regularly from 1980 to 1984 or so. And in contact with several fanclubs worldwide.

And I'd rather have the person / people claiming this story was true to put up the information on this site themselves. It is neither my place nor my inclination to do so myself.

I'm not saying this story isn't true, but please provide proof before bandying about stuff like this.

Then don't complain if nobody posts the info for you, if you can't look it up or research it yourself.

And no....the world is nothin like it was in 1980's. It's changed a lot and the way news and media traveled in those days is nothin like it does today.

Btw, how could you have been in contact with Graceland in 80? It wasn't opened to the public until 82.

Like I said, if you wanna know more about it then go to the library the next time you're here in Memphis and do research on "Graceland and highway project".

[Getlo]

Excuse me, but why was my name dragged into this?

EP75 = Lakeisha (same person, so three people have PMed me so far anyway). So, I'll just go with the flow ... :lol:

[keke23]

EP75 = Lakeisha (same person, so three people have PMed me so far anyway). So, I'll just go with the flow ... :lol:

LMBAO....you need to get a life.

This is why I don't post much anymore in the Elvis world. Everybody's either biased, racist, or thinks they know everything.....and about each person who posts at that.(n)

[Getlo]

Btw, how could you have been in contact with Graceland in 80? It wasn't opened to the public until 82.



There were people working there and looking after the place, and I was in contact with two of them at the time.

Perhaps you could, er, look it up yourself? :doh:

[presley31]

Then don't complain if nobody posts the info for you, if you can't look it up or research it yourself.

And no....the world is nothin like it was in 1980's. It's changed a lot and the way news and media traveled in those days is nothin like it does today.

Btw, how could you have been in contact with Graceland in 80? It wasn't opened to the public until 82.

Like I said, if you wanna know more about it then go to the library the next time you're here in Memphis and do research on "Graceland and highway project".

You seem to make some good points, don't stop posting cause some don't like to believe or have friends in low places.

[keke23]

There were people working there and looking after the place, and I was in contact with two of them at the time.

Perhaps you could, er, look it up yourself? :doh:

Personally I couldn't care less if you knew Vernon himself.

Good for you.

As for me lookin it up....please. Like I got time to spend all day on a computer.

I told you what I knew. Either accept it or don't. That's your choice.

[Getlo]

You seem to make some good points, don't stop posting cause some don't like to believe or have friends in low places.

Funny. No, really ... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

And, like all logical people, I will believe something only when I have actual proof presented to me... not hearsay and fairytales.

[Tommy]

Please stick the the subject.

[keke23]

You seem to make some good points, don't stop posting cause some don't like to believe or have friends in low places.

Thanks Presley31.

I don't claim to know everything, and I'm still learnin things about Elvis.

But I do know things others don't because of livin here and learnin firsthand.

[May]

Perhaps you could apply this sound advice to yourself?

Yet again, presley31, you cannot distinguish between someone not liking something you said and someone simply disagreeing with what you have posted.

You are hands down the most aggressive poster on here .)

I have to agree with you, Getlo. (y)

[May]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong about this.

First of all, Graceland was in financial dept after Elvis died.

.

Actually it wasnt in debt. It was SOON to be in debt, but it wasnt in August 1977

[presley31]

Actually it wasnt in debt. It was SOON to be in debt, but it wasnt in August 1977

graceland was in debt, says that everywhere you read about graceland

[May]

go away you silly girl

[May]

Hmmmmm - what was someone saying about you being "aggresive" -
You sure have proved them right

[May]

graceland was in debt, says that everywhere you read about graceland

and do please get your facts right

[marijaep]

Don't know whether Graceland was in debt or not.....but you all have been talking non-sense for a while here.
I don't want to be the 'peacemaker' but neither the one side(you know who you are) or the other one knows the 'truth'. Because as i can see we will never find an answer which we will all agree with.
I am not saying we shouldn't discuss, but we should discuss like mature people.
Stop arguing everyone...it's just useless. We should use this forum as a place where we can relax and have some fun :clap:
Sorry for being so off topic :blush:

-Where's Suzan now??? lol

:hug:,

Marija

[Suzan]

I?m not going to argue with you because i can see you are fixated with your EPE and Graceland expansion wonder and you are free to do it really but your statement about Memphis wanting to buldoze the house of one of their worldwide known legendary residents is more than impossible. Do you think they were drooling toodlers or what?

Donut I love your posts and how you phrase things and once again find myself in full agreement with all you've said.
As for the city looking into aquiring Graceland, that is true enough...but that's where the truth in his statement ends.:)
I think we've discussed this b4 and I gave info on that whole situation, therefore will not bore you guys w/repeating it here.:D

Good thread though.:D:notworthy

[Suzan]

LOL Marija friend, just saw ur post...I'm here hon I'm here.:D

Graceland was NOT in debt at the time, it had the POTENTIAL to be so because of the yearly upkeep and no new revenue coming in, and Col. @ that time was still taking his fees out of what was coming in.
Elvis left an estate worth 5 million, to me not a bad some for 1977, and not bad for today either...nobody here would turn that some down if offered to them.
The POTENTIAL to be in debt, looming yes, but when decision made to open Graceland itself was fine.
I agree Marija, unless by some act of God, EPE opened up their vaults and ledgers, untampered, raw, for us to look at, nobody except them (and their stories change) will know for sure, so to argue amongst ourselves is pointless and a waste of time, but to state our opinion and have that opinion respected, well that would be the optimum.:D

May, wasting your breath, don't let anyone get to you...some always make statements and then have nothing to back it up with. Ignore, it's water off a ducks back as a wise man once said to me.:D

[marijaep]

LOL Marija friend, just saw ur post...I'm here hon I'm here.:D

Graceland was NOT in debt at the time, it had the POTENTIAL to be so because of the yearly upkeep and no new revenue coming in, and Col. @ that time was still taking his fees out of what was coming in.
Elvis left an estate worth 5 million, to me not a bad some for 1977, and not bad for today either...nobody here would turn that some down if offered to them.
The POTENTIAL to be in debt, looming yes, but when decision made to open Graceland itself was fine.
I agree Marija, unless by some act of God, EPE opened up their vaults and ledgers, untampered, raw, for us to look at, nobody except them (and their stories change) will know for sure, so to argue amongst ourselves is pointless and a waste of time, but to state our opinion and have that opinion respected, well that would be the optimum.:D

May, wasting your breath, don't let anyone get to you...some always make statements and then have nothing to back it up with. Ignore, it's water off a ducks back as a wise man once said to me.:D

There you are lol.
Always here when needed. Are you sure???? :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: - Sorry lol
:hug:

[presley31]

l meant graceland was in dept by the time priscilla got a hold it from vernon, but it doesn't matter cause this thread is going nowhere

[Suzan]

Hi friend! :D:D:D:D U call I show up!:hug::hug:
I'm pretty sure...:lmfao::lmfao:

I never said you did Presley31.

[Suzan]

Here's a bit of info...I got this from EPE Inc. book:

At the time that Pris took over and heck even at time Elvis passed away, you know who he owed the biggest sum to? And who was Graceland's largest creditor? Priscilla. Elvis burrowed money from her after the divorce and hadn't had time to pay it back @ time of his death...so if she TRULY cared about her daughter and Graceland, wouldn't you think she would have signed away that debt?
So no Graceland was not in trouble when she gained control of the estate, that is HER story....which she has her $$$ for maintaining...Graceland did have the looming potential to be in trouble...but again I think there were other means maybe avail..
Like someone said on this forum, it's not our right that Graceland is open, it's a privilage. And it's been a cash cow for the ex..

[marijaep]

Hi friend! :D:D:D:D U call I show up!:hug::hug:
I'm pretty sure...:lmfao::lmfao:

I never said you did Presley31.

That's what i meant...lol...we all have different opinions that we believe that are true. It's funny, but true :D Life....lol

:hug:

[MissyM]

And please do not forget that for 4 years Cilla was not getting any child-support. She was used to living very well on what Elvis gave her. She had very good reason to want to make it a money making venture.

[keke23]

And please do not forget that for 4 years Cilla was not getting any child-support. She was used to living very well on what Elvis gave her. She had very good reason to want to make it a money making venture.

Elvis did pay child support.

He actually gave her more than what the court ordered.

[Suzan]

Yes he did, she was never w/o money, verify your facts please.:D
Money venture sure, but hey she divorced him, find another way to make money not off your ex and his property..or your daughters.:D

Also in divorce it's said that it was stipulated she could not use the name Presley for business ventures so prior to his death it was Beaulieu after he died, wow look back to the name that makes her very wealthy.:D

[The King's Queen]

Pris didn't do anyone a favor by opening Graceland to the public except herself! She had to maintain her lifestyle, and what better way than to monopolize on her EX-husband??? This is something that she has long been accustomed to doing, IMO.

I wouldn't think that Memphis would ever have had the opportunity to take control of Graceland. But, if they did by some fluke, I'm sure they would have used it for the same reasons it has been used thus far....MONEY!

[MissyM]

Elvis died in 1977, and Graceland opened when? No child support after he died. Pricilla was not going to be able to maintain the life she was used to unless she did something and did it fast. soon as everyone died off she jumped on it! She would have ended up having to go back to being Pricilla B. Not like her C-rated movie offers were pouring in.

[presley31]

I think we covered just about everything about priscilla, but this thread is about memphis and graceland.

[Suzan]

Well said Queen.:D:D:D
And Presley31 since it was Pris decision to open the home for tours then yes she's very much connected w/the topic.:D
Yes Pris had to maintain her lifestyle, please check your facts she continued to not only receive child support for Lisa til Lisa turned 18 but she continued to receive her alimony as well, she took Vernon to court over it to make sure she got her money.:D
Vernon died in 1979, Pris opened Graceland June of 1982, though in interviews she stated that she "almost waited to long, 5 yrs." well lets do the math, she didn't have control 5 yrs prior.:)
She NEEDS her ex husband for money and for the fame she craves yet claims is a burden, she could have removed herself long ago, and now what is she doing? sticking her face in all things Elvis, and Lisa to...so who is she kidding?
And yes Memphis did have the chance in 1980-81 to take Graceland and turn into tourist attraction, they declined, after doing all the demographics (yes the city did all the leg work for Pris and her team) and decided it would not be cost effective and that interest in Elvis would wane, I bet whomever made that decision or the city itself is kicking itself in the butt.

[May]

LOL Marija friend, just saw ur post...I'm here hon I'm here.:D

Graceland was NOT in debt at the time, it had the POTENTIAL to be so because of the yearly upkeep and no new revenue coming in, and Col. @ that time was still taking his fees out of what was coming in.
Elvis left an estate worth 5 million, to me not a bad some for 1977, and not bad for today either...nobody here would turn that some down if offered to them.
The POTENTIAL to be in debt, looming yes, but when decision made to open Graceland itself was fine.
I agree Marija, unless by some act of God, EPE opened up their vaults and ledgers, untampered, raw, for us to look at, nobody except them (and their stories change) will know for sure, so to argue amongst ourselves is pointless and a waste of time, but to state our opinion and have that opinion respected, well that would be the optimum.:D

May, wasting your breath, don't let anyone get to you...some always make statements and then have nothing to back it up with. Ignore, it's water off a ducks back as a wise man once said to me.:D


dont worry Suzan, no-one gets to me that easily. Its best to ignore 'their' comments. It would be helpful if people could get all their facts right, as you do! :clap:

[Suzan]

Hi May! :D:D:D:D Phew ok, I'm glad, I didn't want someone getting u in trouble.:( I'm that way to, can't get to me that easy. lol Yes some comments, your very correct, best to roll your eyes and ignore. rof
Thank you I try! You do a good job of facts yourself! Kudos!!!!!:clap::notworthy