Zippin Pippin could still end up at Graceland

[keke23]

I got an email this mornin from my good friend who has connections to the city board, and he told me somethin yall might wanna know about Elvis' favorite roller coaster, the Zippin Pippin.

He said the city is lookin for a permanent home in the city for the historical ride.

This is true because it was mentioned on the news the other day.

But what he told me was never mentioned on the news. He said that the city officials are gonna try and get Sillerman and EPE to move it to Graceland, but not on the grounds, but nearby.

He thinks the best place for it would be behind the Heartbreak Hotel since EPE owns that land.

He told me that nothin has been proposed yet, but the city wants it to stay in Memphis and is tryin to get it registered as a National Historic Landmark like Graceland.

Havin it as part of the new attractions would help bring in more children and young adults. Plus, Elvis die hard fans would be wantin to ride it as well, since Elvis did.

I know Soden and Cilla have said there won't be any rides, and respectfully there shouldn't. But if there is.....the Pippin would be the only that should be there and Graceland would be the best option for the coaster's fate since it has ties to Elvis and his last days on earth.

My source thinks Sillerman will give in to up the number of tourists at Graceland and move it there or close by.

Time will tell if this becomes a reality or fantasy.

[malc07]

Dont think it would be right having it at Graceland somehow

[Shelly]

It don't belong at Graceland. Why don't they build an amusement park name it after Elvis and put it there!!!!

[Diane]

That's a great idea Shelly? I wouldn't want to see it too close to the Graceland grounds either - it doesn't belong there! I don't want to see them lose it, but I'm afraid they are planning to build too much around the mansion as it is.

Diane

[Getlo]

And who said Graceland wasn't going to be turned into an amusement park????!!! :angry:

[keke23]

Yall, he said the city is gonna try and convince EPE and Sillerman to take it.

If they do, more than likely it would go at the back end of the parking lot where the wooded area is behind HH and the RV Park.

I don't think it would be visible from EPB in that area. So what's the big deal if they do move it there to save it?

After all.....it was Elvis' favorite ride.

[Tommy]

Graceland is a national historic landmark, I don't think that would be allowed there.

[EP75]

I'm not at all for an amusement park atmosphere at Graceland.(n) But for some reason the thought of the Zippin' Pippin' as part of the new attractions somewhere in the vicinity of the area isn't all that bad since it does have EP relations to it. As long as it's not on the grounds or next to the mansion. The vision of a roller coaster at Graceland would be a turn off even for the casual fans. But the opportunity to ride on EP's favorite ride somewhere near the campus would be enticing to many visitors and especially the youth. That I have no problem with.

If it lures in more young adults and children to Graceland then bring it on!(y)

[EP75]

Graceland is a national historic landmark, I don't think that would be allowed there.


The mansion and the original grounds it sits on is a National landmark. But the newer purchased land (north of the mansion and across the street) is not part of the landmark boundaries. They have no limits as to what can and can't be built on the new land.

If you measure the new land recently purchased by EPE north of the mansion's gate and all the land on the other side of Elvis Presley Boulevard, it strectches to 3/4 of a mile wide in land now owned by Bob Sillerman. Hence the plan for a massive overhaul expansion in that area.(y)

[Getlo]

the thought of the Zippin' Pippin' as part of the new attractions somewhere in the vicinity of the area isn't all that bad since it does have EP relations to it.

It was his favourite roller coaster ride, but so what?

Should they also bring to Graceland the Memphian Theatre if it gets torn down? ... the sign from his favourite burger joint? ... street signs from where he used to drive? ... etc etc

The link is relatively tenuous I'd suggest, especially when compared to what's already there. And there's no way it would have the same seats etc as when Elvis used it. The Zippin would surely have been updated in the past 30 or 40 years, one would think.

If it's torn down, let it go to scrap, give it away to charity or whatever.

But Graceland and EPE do not need it.

I wonder if they'd actually charge admission to go on the thing once it's installed though. I wouldn't put it past them ...;)

[Donut]

I wonder if they'd actually charge admission to go on the thing once it's installed though. I wouldn't put it past them ...;)

Bet on it. Don?t they do the same with Elvis?s pool table?

[velasca1]

I think that would be great! I know that they've recently bought the surrounding land, or are working on it (not sure status) around Graceland and are planning on cleaning up that area.

I was upset to hear when they closed Libertyland

That is an historical ride for the town and for EP fans. :D

[Johnny]

I'll just say this - I'm taking this with a grain of salt; a lot of grain of salt ...in the first post it even says "he told me.." etc

[King_Creole]

It was his favourite roller coaster ride, but so what?

Should they also bring to Graceland the Memphian Theatre if it gets torn down? ... the sign from his favourite burger joint? ... street signs from where he used to drive? ... etc etc

The link is relatively tenuous I'd suggest ...

My thoughts exactly Getlo ...

Some of these ideas and threads get more ludicrous as the days go by ... :doh:

[The King's Queen]

:doh: Here we go again... What's next for them? How about a carny-stand where you can order a fried peanut butter and banana sandwich with a side of burned bacon??? I feel another migraine coming on....:doh: :lmfao:

[elvis himselvis]

I don't know but I don't think it's a very bad idea...
If this won't happen,maybe the rollercoaster will be destroyed,and we'll never see it again.
I don't think it's a very bad idea,but that's just my opinion...

[presley31]

I'll believe it when l see it

[Suzan]

It was sold to private investors and taken down and removed from Memphis...so how is it that it now found it's way back?
Also I don't believe this for one minute...who is the City councilman? Please give a name, he is a PUBLIC official so I'm sure he has his name mentioned all the time.:)
JMO

[marijaep]

It was sold to private investors and taken down and removed from Memphis...so how is it that it now found it's way back?
Also I don't believe this for one minute...who is the City councilman? Please give a name, he is a PUBLIC official so I'm sure he has his name mentioned all the time.:)
JMO

you are TOO RIGHT! (y)(y)

[Suzan]

Hi my friend! :D:D
I find this story completely fabricated and posted to incite the fans.:(
I show u something in a bit remind me.:D
Hugs!:)

[keke23]

It was sold to private investors and taken down and removed from Memphis...so how is it that it now found it's way back?
Also I don't believe this for one minute...who is the City councilman? Please give a name, he is a PUBLIC official so I'm sure he has his name mentioned all the time.:)
JMO

The Pippin's been here all along. It never was removed, just closed down, along with Libertyland.

Yes, it was sold to a private owner, but because of some contract with the city, the coaster cannot be removed according to a judge's ruling.

He was supposed to remove it by a certain time and he didn't. Now it's Memphis' unless they can't come up with a permanent location to save it.

If they don't find somewhere in the city to put it, then the owner can move it out of the city.

The city council officials are Tom Marshall and Robert Lipscomb.

[Suzan]

Thank you for the names.

[keke23]

Those are the names of our city officials who are in control and lead for the development projects around town, like the new plans for Graceland and Whitehaven.

They're not my source. But my source knows certain ones connected to the city council board.

[Suzan]

Hmmm so who is your source then? And yes am aware of these names as you can look them up online under Memphis City Council.
This is purely fabricated or you can pm me your "source" I won't let it.
Also I've sent some emails out to these people along w/folks I know at EPE..I will keep you posted as to what they say.:D

[keke23]

Hmmm so who is your source then? And yes am aware of these names as you can look them up online under Memphis City Council.
This is purely fabricated or you can pm me your "source" I won't let it.
Also I've sent some emails out to these people along w/folks I know at EPE..I will keep you posted as to what they say.:D


My source is private but very reliable.

All I'll say is that he's not been wrong yet.

And EPE aint always truthful.....they lie to cover their own a$$es.

[Awickedreigndrop]

I thought there was an organization that's trying to salvage Libertyland and the owner of the Zippin Pippin donated it back in hopes that it would help save Libertyland and bring it back to life. that's what I read here http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=12457
I hope they didn't change their minds in saving it, so the Zippin Pippin get to stay where it is.

Once while visiting my family in Memphis my aunt took me, her daughter, and my niece to Libertyland and we got to ride on the Zippin Pippin. It was my niece's first roller coaster ride ever and she never forgot it. She was very excited that she got to ride on the same roller coaster as Elvis had. This was some years ago .

[Getlo]

So ... what'd I miss in the last 12 hours? :lol:

[Tommy]

Please stick to the subject and please stop interjecting your personal opinions about other members. Thank You.

[EDOEP]

Yes, it was sold to a private owner, but because of some contract with the city, the coaster cannot be removed according to a judge's ruling.

???

can you help me and explain please, lakeisha?

libertyland was shut down. understood so far.

zippin pippin was sold to a private owner. understood so far.

this new owner MUST NOT remove the rollercoaster due to a court runling and because there are some contracts with the city, still effective? NOT understood.

1/ why should anybody buy a rollercoaster if he cannot move it for further business due to a court ruling? NOT understood.

2/ did the seller tell him 'hey, you can spend you money on it, but afterwards you can't run it here in this place since libertyland is shut down!? NOT understood.

3/ if there exist 'contracts' with the city ..... wouldn't these be automatically be terminated with the shut-down of the amusement park? NOT understood.

4/ even if it wasn't so, why on earth should the city insist on this contract to be fulfilled after the shutdown of libertyland and the ride being out of service anyway? i mean ... what could be their intention behind it? NOT understood.

5/ why and how could - on this basis - the former owner anyway get the permission to sell it if there were existing contracts with the city? did he deliberately cheat on the buyer by not telling him? or is the buyer a crap-dealer who was aware of buying a huge amount of inoperable & unmoveable metal? maybe he wanted to dismantle after termination of the coaster's 'contract' with the city and sell in lots of 100 grams on ebay :P. NOT understood.


He was supposed to remove it by a certain time and he didn't. Now it's Memphis' unless they can't come up with a permanent location to save it.

???

how could anybody suppose the new owner to move it as there was a court ruling that prohibited exactly that - move it? NOT understood.

shall he ask scotty of the 'enterprise' to beam it somewhere else? oh wait, is 'beaming' identical with 'moving'? in this case even beaming wouldn't work, would it?


If they don't find somewhere in the city to put it, then the owner can move it out of the city.

wait a minute: if he doesn't move it - which he is not permitted by the court ruling - then it automatically becomes property of the city of memphis?

that would IMHO imply that the official memphis administration made some innocent fool spend his money on buying the pippin without ever having the slightest chance of either moving or running it. are these gentlemen criminals? NOT understood.

and then, after the poor fool bought it, was obviously supposed to move it by the memphis administration if he didn't want to loose it but at the same time wasn't allowed to move it though because of the court runling ..... and after it hence automatically became the property of the city of memphis ...... if THEN memphis cannot find some other place for it to sit on ...... THEN this guy will be not only supposed, but also allowed to move it?? NOT understood.

i mean, if memphis was so eager to get the pippin, why didn't they buy it right from the beginning? NOT understood.

:'(

just realised there is an awful lot i don't understand ..... :hmm: - but i DO look forward to your explanations and to learn.

ellie

[Suzan]

:D:D:D:D EDOEP! I posted another thread on this.:)
And you have very very very good ?.:):)
I was told the City actually DOES WANT it moved as it is sitting on their land.

[EDOEP]

:D:D:D:D EDOEP! I posted another thread on this.:)
And you have very very very good ?.:):)
I was told the City actually DOES WANT it moved as it is sitting on their land.

i saw there is another thread ;) and read it. no problem with it. maybe i spent all of my litte poor old brain on understanding yours and there is none left for understanding the postings in THIS? :P

all joking apart now, let's get serious and back to topic.

i did find lakeisha's posting quite confusing with all those (alleged? real?) facts that contradict each other. wonder if she or any other member is willing to explain. don't assume i am the only user who has problems in understanding. normally i am not regarded as low-brain nor would i rank myself into that league, but in this special case i'm at a loss.

i can hardly believe the city of memphis is acting that strange. i mean ... memphis is not located in a (proverbial) 'banana republic' or 'absurdistan' :P. reading lakeisha's posting one get's the impression, though.

hugs, ellie

PS need to check out your posting again and hope to find some info shedding light on that mysterious 'court ruling'.