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ricardo b. prospero
09-16-2007, 03:34 AM
I must admit I have too much prejudice against Liza Marie as Elvis only child.
I was really looking forward for a boy as his child to answer my dream for an Elvis Jr. to immortalize the legend. Elvis Jr. could have in some ways eased the pain and our longing for Elvis after his dead, I can't help but imagine a little boy who is an exact replica of his dad with all the inherent talents performing in the stage. A little boy who will not refuse to sing his dad's songs and relive his fame and glory. Sad to say it will remain a dream and that is the way it will be forever.

Suzan
09-16-2007, 03:45 AM
Good question...I would have to say yes that it would have made a great difference, I however, would have felt even worse for the boy then I do for the girl. I mean jeez look @ all Lisa has had to endure, the comparisons, all of that, can u imagine if she had been a male? I think it would have been very very tough.
I think another good question would be if Elvis had had 2 children would it made things different for Lisa and all that went with being labeled his only child?
Thank you for this question, I enjoyed it.:):)

ricardo b. prospero
09-16-2007, 07:22 AM
Thanks susan for you comment. I just could not understand the direction Liza Marie is heading to. I have listen to her recordings and find nothing outstanding about them except she is the daughter of Elvis and most of those who kindly patronized her out of respect are his father's fans.
Without being Elvis daughter I don't think people will ever notice her. My point is if Liza Marie is a boy I am sure there is a great chance he will follow his father's foot steps and relive his glory. I find Liza Marie a big hypocrite pretending to stay away from the shadow of his father. Lucky for her, she bears the name Presley a good excuse for her lack luster talent.

Getlo
09-16-2007, 07:34 AM
Elvis Jr. could have in some ways eased the pain and our longing for Elvis after his dead, I can't help but imagine a little boy who is an exact replica of his dad with all the inherent talents performing in the stage. A little boy who will not refuse to sing his dad's songs and relive his fame and glory. Sad to say it will remain a dream and that is the way it will be forever.

An Elvis Junior "reliving" his father's work and life? You're joking ... right?

Firstly, a son galavanting around on stage wouldn't have eased anyone's pain at losing their idol. To that, I have two words for you: Julian Lennon.

Second, why would he be an exact replica? He may have looked like Cilla, or whichever woman with whom Elvis had had another child.

Finally, contrary to what some believe, musical talent is not genetic in any way. Again, two words: Lisa Marie.

Personally, I find the very concept of Elvis' "son" up on stage doing his daddy's works ... bizarre, to say the least.

desiree
09-16-2007, 07:37 AM
[QUOTE=Suzan;138640]Good question...I would have to say yes that it would have made a great difference, I however, would have felt even worse for the boy then I do for the girl. I mean jeez look @ all Lisa has had to endure, the comparisons, all of that, can u imagine if she had been a male? I think it would have been very very tough.QUOTE]

Well said Suzan. Somehow it seems that females are much better in coping with tough situations than males. It's not meant to be an insult for males, it is only my opinion of what I've seen.

Diane
09-16-2007, 07:55 AM
In my opinion it would have been much much harder on a boy as he would have been expected to be a clone of his father.

Diane

marijaep
09-16-2007, 08:10 AM
In my opinion it would have been much much harder on a boy as he would have been expected to be a clone of his father.

Diane

Yep...I think so too Diane (y)

GirlHappy19
09-16-2007, 09:56 AM
I Agree Diane

Suzan
09-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Thanks Desiree :D:D Yes I agree w/ur statement as well...
VERY EXCELLENT point's Getlo...though I have to disagree I do think Lisa has talent, not her daddy's talent but she does have talent, if nothing else her song writing abilities should @ least be acknowledged.
I also think that irregardless, if Lisa had been male, lets say, that child would have prob. been raised the exact same way Pris raised Lisa, hence who's to know if he to would not have shunned speaking about his dad.
One other thing I"d like to say, though I hugely admire Lisa and I do feel for her for she has not had it easy, money aside....she was raised to not disucss him, she said almost as much on this last Oprah interview and she raised her kids the same way, Pris has in many many interviews I have, both print and tv, said that Elvis was not discussed...and when he was brougth up it was not deep talk. She spoke to Lisa only about his drug habits, etc..I doubt she told her any of the good. JMO in what I've been able to gather from those that know her, knew her and from what Pris herself has said throughout the years and the changing of her stories.:D

Yes Diane I'd have to say that I agree w/ur statement wholeheartedly as well.:D

presley31
09-16-2007, 08:58 PM
In my opinion it would have been much much harder on a boy as he would have been expected to be a clone of his father.

Diane

l agree diane(y)

presley31
09-16-2007, 08:59 PM
Thanks Desiree :D:D Yes I agree w/ur statement as well...
VERY EXCELLENT point's Getlo...though I have to disagree I do think Lisa has talent, not her daddy's talent but she does have talent, if nothing else her song writing abilities should @ least be acknowledged.
I also think that irregardless, if Lisa had been male, lets say, that child would have prob. been raised the exact same way Pris raised Lisa, hence who's to know if he to would not have shunned speaking about his dad.
One other thing I"d like to say, though I hugely admire Lisa and I do feel for her for she has not had it easy, money aside....she was raised to not disucss him, she said almost as much on this last Oprah interview and she raised her kids the same way, Pris has in many many interviews I have, both print and tv, said that Elvis was not discussed...and when he was brougth up it was not deep talk. She spoke to Lisa only about his drug habits, etc..I doubt she told her any of the good. JMO in what I've been able to gather from those that know her, knew her and from what Pris herself has said throughout the years and the changing of her stories.:D

Yes Diane I'd have to say that I agree w/ur statement wholeheartedly as well.:D

I don't think priscilla did that bad of a job raising lisa, but thats my two cents.

Suzan
09-16-2007, 09:08 PM
I didn't say she did bad job but she didn't do a great job either, I think it's thanks to Lisa and the good head on her shoulders that she is the way she is...do u not read or listen to Lisa's interviews or Pris' for that matter? I'm not trying to be mean, just asking as you don't seem to have anything to back your remarks...did you not hear what Lisa said about her mom? And Pris throwing her out of the house, or Pris talking about them not getting along? Granted all mom's and daughter's go thru things, myself included, but there was a lot of bad things between these 2 women by Lisa's own acct. they only recently mended their relationship...why is that do u suppose if she was such a great parent to her?
By majority of accts. including Pris's, she left Lisa either w/the household help, a married couple, at her Beverly Hills home, or her sister, or her parents or Lisa was in Memphis, tell me you think this makes a good parent?

presley31
09-16-2007, 09:12 PM
I think pris and lisa are on better terms then they were, good to see l think anyway.

Suzan
09-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Yes it is good, but again you've nothing to back or address my ?...:doh:
I'm just curious for curiousities sake as to how u formulated your opinions? I like a good debate...not trying to start anything, am truly interested as to what makes you say some stuff u say?

Suzan
09-16-2007, 09:17 PM
I hope my ? above makes sense, it sounds different in my head.lol

presley31
09-16-2007, 09:20 PM
Yes it is good, but again you've nothing to back or address my ?...:doh:
I'm just curious for curiousities sake as to how u formulated your opinions? I like a good debate...not trying to start anything, am truly interested as to what makes you say some stuff u say?

we have different views on priscilla, l like the woman sorry that offends people, l guess l'am the one who wears rose coloured glasses.

Suzan
09-16-2007, 09:23 PM
I didn't say I didn't like some stuff she's done, I don't think the woman is all bad, I don't however, wear rose colored glasses, as I used to, where she is concerned. I think you'd be surprised as to how much I do defend her on some issues.:D

SeeSeeRider777
09-16-2007, 09:45 PM
Singing is not genetic. Look at Bing Crosby's kids.

Suzan
09-16-2007, 09:54 PM
Singing is not genetic. Look at Bing Crosby's kids.
LOL omg I just love your comebacks!(y)

I dunno I do think Lisa is talented, but I have personal reasons for liking her so much too, so maybe I should just not respond to this topic? lol :D

Getlo
09-16-2007, 10:38 PM
Singing is not genetic. Look at Bing Crosby's kids.

Oh, come on. Gary Crosby rocked in Girl Happy. It almost looked like he could actually play that guitar!!! :lol:

Suzan
09-16-2007, 10:45 PM
LOL ok now this is fun, I love the sense of humor, we should be able to laugh, irregardless the topic.:D:D:D:D U know what I'm trying to say? it always comes out better in my head then when I write it down rof or type it. lol

ricardo b. prospero
09-16-2007, 11:35 PM
I was not joking but certainly day dreaming about the Elvis Jr. character. He is just a product of my fertile imagination. I agree with you an exact replica of Elvis is an exageration and even a duplicate of Elvis enormous talent is a far fetch idea even for his son.Perhaps, It was just my way of expressing my dismay on Liza Marie's misadventures at the expense of his father's name. She will never ever learn to put her acts together at least for the appreciation of her father's achievements. To say the least, she is a disgrace to Elvis memory

Suzan
09-16-2007, 11:40 PM
Yikes, ok, may I ask Ricardo why u think Lisa is a disgrace to her dad's memory? I have a differing opinion but would love to hear what the other side is, because I've not been exposed to that much, I just thought everyone loved Lisa.

MeanWoman
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
And would you happen to be sexist Ricardo?

riley
09-17-2007, 01:39 AM
I think Pris made mistakes raising Lisa. When I see Lisa speaking about her dad I still see a lost little girl mourning. When I see her today or I see her at the funeral pics it is like time stood still.

It makes me wonder, DID this girl ever had the chance to properly mourn her dad.
Did she receive the attention and the comfort and softness of a gentle mother.

I leave that open because I did not witness them together at those times.

I know trough many many books that Lisa was sent off to summercamp right after funeral and I'm sorry but that still seems so odd to me. I have two daughters myself and cannot imagine doing that to them in same situation.
Little girls need so many warmth and love and attention.

Mine are now teenagers and still like to hug like crazy.

One of the people close to Elvis I spoke to in Memphis refered to Priscilla being "a highway". Cold and hard.
Is that to believe or not I leave in the middle, I know Pris had her ennemies in the inner circle especially after Elvis his death.

But it was a sentence that kept lingering in my mind.

I think at the time Pris wanted Lisa to forget a lot about her dad. Perhaps simply because she didn't like discussing him or because it would mean she had to spill the beans about her own past behaviour, I don't know.

I once was told by someone who is on good friendly terms with Lisa , she never cared for Pris simply because of the things Lisa told her about her mom. Didn't give me any details either but it never left my hearth either.

LIsa did act as a very disturbed teenager. Lots of causes were available. Early death of her most favourite parent, too many unanswered questions, boyfriends of mother she never cared for, left alone quite a lot with grandparents, aunt, householdstaff while mommy was discovering herself and travelling all over the globe.

Lisa came out fine but only after a long long time. She has indeed strong shoulders and a good view on life. She became a no nonsens person and I really really hope she received finally all the answers she needed regarding her dad. I hope she confronted her mother with lots of things. I think they did some straighttalk after many many years and that is perhaps why they finally are on better terms.

I noticed Lisa's behaviour in Oprah last year and was "shocked" at her reaction when her mom enterred. It was odd to say the least.
There was no warmth between them at all.
On the other hand I liked the way Lisa confronted her in EBTP saying you are still not over it...
(ref to her birth) and they giggled. It showed me LIsa is like her dad a very gentle and nice person who can forgive "a lot".

I also noticed Priscilla saying she "used" to be such a lovely little girl (referring to Lisa)

Well I think that was from the time, life was still beautiful for Lisa. Parents were together and there were no problems she had to worry about.

Things changed and a little girl "saw" to much grief, pain, and other things she was not supposed to see.

Lisa is a smart girl, I trust her to still know a lot about her dad and the conversations they had together and the time they spend together. Hope every single nice moment will never slip her mind.
Elvis adored Lisa and I do hope so much Lisa will continue to realise that.

Things may have been kept silent for her for years but you know truth prevails allways.

IMO Lisa should contact more her family and relatives of her dad in Memphis. They are still people who care for her and complain they never got to see her in private. She should do that and talk to them and hear their version. She is an adult she can still sort out for herself afterwards what to believe and what not to believe.

Only having the side of the story of her mother is wrong IMO.
She seems hesitant to do so, perhaps because of the strong influence still of Priscilla I don't know. Or perhaps she isn't readdy to know more or to know some disturbing stories.

Perhaps one day she will

Suzan
09-17-2007, 01:46 AM
Very well put, once again, Riley.
These are the reason's I don't think Pris was a good mom either and that Lisa deserved better. To me on Aug. 16th Lisa lost 2 parents, her daddy who adored her and her mother who couldn't wait to start dating and go outing and sending her to summer camp.

I've heard things Lisa has said recently about her mom privately, and things she's said openly, and I do believe when people tell me Pris is cold...I've got so much I've heard from those that would know, those that haven't said anything publicly, that have nothing to gain from lying, so I tend to believe them.

Lisa was very very close to her dad and I think Pris was very jealous of that relationship from the get go...and I think she continues to be jealous, why is she always around Lisa now for Elvis events? Because she can't let go, as much as she professed to hate the name, the situation, why then is she still sticking her face in it? Let Lisa have the spotlight, Lisa can and has handled herself beautifully! Is Pris afraid Lisa may say something that Pris doesn't want know about herself? U know what I mean?

Anyway, I can go on and on about this but I don't want to break any confidences, nor do I want to start an arguement w/anyone here...I just like you have many many ? where Pris is concerenced and question her sincerity altogether at times.:(

And yes very odd reaction, but I PERSONALLY saw an odder one years ago PRIVATELY...and it made me go "hmmm" :(

riley
09-17-2007, 02:13 AM
Know what you mean Suzan.

And indeed I think Pris was jealous about the good relationship Elvis had with his daughter and also the fact Lisa loved to spend time with Linda while being in Memphis or his California house(s)

Lots of sad and disturbing stories I know about that episode of their life, esp regarding Pris reactions and comments on both of them.

So sad a little girl had to be witness or victim of a very childish behaviour of the mother. Can you even imagine how she must have felt being so young.(n)

LIke often the case in divorces, children are victims, toyed with, blackmailed, even mentally or even worse physically abused simply because the parents feel frustrated and have no outlet for their feelings of vengeance.

Suzan
09-17-2007, 02:36 AM
I so agree Riley. And your right it is sad, I feel very badly for the child and hugely admire the woman and have loved both for a very long time now.
Pris I'm no longer that fond of. I see her and it screams FAKE...and I'm not just talking about the plastic surgery.
Yes, and though I don't think for a moment Lisa was physically abused by her mother, I don't think she was treated well emotionally, based off what I've heard...:(:(:(:(

riley
09-17-2007, 02:52 AM
Indeed she was never physically abused at all, let me state that clear.

Before others would get my lines here out of context.

Let's keep it nice and say that I have the opinion she was emotionally often neglected by a mother who's priorities were not little Lisa at the time.

Perhaps Pris was simply not a women with great motherly instincts. She was a career women first. She was not bad too Lisa but I think Pris her views on upbringing were a bit on the cold side. Not considering LIsa's feelings enough. Lisa still is not over it totally.
Remember her saying Pris wanted her to become a "French person" OMG or marrying a lawyer or a doctor. She said it with a smile but I just could feel the hurt and pain of the little girl she once was.

We can ofcourse try to look in her mind and find lots of explanations like:
she was too young, it was because of the good relationship Lisa had with her dad, it was because Lisa was his child ....

But that would be blind guessing, isn't it.

I wonder if she was the same with Navarone, I doubt it to be honnest.

I also wonder if her parents were the same with her, they seem to be such lovely , genuine nice parents.

Suzan
09-17-2007, 04:13 AM
Hi Riley, oh no no, I did not think that was what you were saying, I was just saying what I thought...and yes I think I posted something similar awhile back about Pris not being there for Lisa when she needed it, that she was emotionally neglectful, etc...

I think Elvis, w/all his faults, all his illnesses, his demons and his abscenses was a better father and I think Linda was good for Lisa as well...truly affectionate.:D

Diane
09-17-2007, 07:01 AM
Riley, thank you for your #25 post. That was the most accurate summation in my mind of the relationship between Lisa and Priscilla I've come across. You hit every single point right on target. (y)

Diane

presley31
09-17-2007, 07:38 AM
Indeed she was never physically abused at all, let me state that clear.

Before others would get my lines here out of context.

Let's keep it nice and say that I have the opinion she was emotionally often neglected by a mother who's priorities were not little Lisa at the time.

Perhaps Pris was simply not a women with great motherly instincts. She was a career women first. She was not bad too Lisa but I think Pris her views on upbringing were a bit on the cold side. Not considering LIsa's feelings enough. Lisa still is not over it totally.
Remember her saying Pris wanted her to become a "French person" OMG or marrying a lawyer or a doctor. She said it with a smile but I just could feel the hurt and pain of the little girl she once was.

We can ofcourse try to look in her mind and find lots of explanations like:
she was too young, it was because of the good relationship Lisa had with her dad, it was because Lisa was his child ....

But that would be blind guessing, isn't it.

I wonder if she was the same with Navarone, I doubt it to be honnest.

I also wonder if her parents were the same with her, they seem to be such lovely , genuine nice parents.

I agree Riley, but we can't think we know what really happen between Lisa and priscilla cause we weren't there and we hear stories and we go by that but never know the real turth behind anything. I am sure priscilla wasn't the best mother and made alot of mistakes, but really how can you be a great mother when you acting like a teenager yourself. I think myself that priscilla should of put Lisa first instead of her boyfriends.

riley
09-17-2007, 08:03 AM
That is true.
Priscilla seemed to want to catch up on her youth, the youth she never really had. Wild days, partying, dating, trying out some professions.
But she had a child ofcourse and I do think she loved her child in her own way but still had her own priorities going on.

Lisa came a bit too early in the marriage, perhaps and I stress "perhaps" things could have been different if Elvis and Pris would have had some years alone. Pris had to mature still a lot being a young bride and suddenly there was motherhood. Elvis was overwhelmed but Pris wasn't , we all know that.

Ofcourse I was never there to witness their relationship nor conversations , therefore I base myself on what one can see, what is real.

I saw a very cold relationship on Oprah and we have to remember that at that time, their relationship was alreaddy much better then it once was.
It seemed to me Lisa still didn't know what did happen to her jewellry she got from her dad. Asked a question smiling and once again did not receive an answer from mommy.

All that said I do think Lisa turned out to be a wonderful human being, not affected by Hollywood crazyness. The song Raven brought tears in my eyes and when I examine the text I hear her talking about Priscilla telling her stories with sad eyes...
I hear her telling hey I forgave you and I was ruthless and I'm sorry...

I don't doubt Lisa was ruthless becoming a teenager and still so much in pain over her dad. I'm sure hard words were uttered between mother and daughter.

Normal, a bit the bill Pris had to pay one day...

I think everything is said between them and I do hope they will have many many years of happiness each knowing and accepting what happened.

I do hope Priscilla will tell her the whole truth and not her version of the truth.
She seems to change a lot of versions, well I do hope her daughter knows at least the truth and nothing but...

presley31
09-17-2007, 08:07 AM
That is true.
Priscilla seemed to want to catch up on her youth, the youth she never really had. Wild days, partying, dating, trying out some professions.
But she had a child ofcourse and I do think she loved her child in her own way but still had her own priorities going on.

Lisa came a bit too early in the marriage, perhaps and I stress "perhaps" things could have been different if Elvis and Pris would have had some years alone. Pris had to mature still a lot being a young bride and suddenly there was motherhood. Elvis was overwhelmed but Pris wasn't , we all know that.

Ofcourse I was never there to witness their relationship nor conversations , therefore I base myself on what one can see, what is real.

I saw a very cold relationship on Oprah and we have to remember that at that time, their relationship was alreaddy much better then it once was.
It seemed to me Lisa still didn't know what did happen to her jewellry she got from her dad. Asked a question smiling and once again did not receive an answer from mommy.

All that said I do think Lisa turned out to be a wonderful human being, not affected by Hollywood crazyness. The song Raven brought tears in my eyes and when I examine the text I hear her talking about Priscilla telling her stories with sad eyes...
I hear her telling hey I forgave you and I was ruthless and I'm sorry...

I don't doubt Lisa was ruthless becoming a teenager and still so much in pain over her dad. I'm sure hard words were uttered between mother and daughter.

Normal, a bit the bill Pris had to pay one day...

I think everything is said between them and I do hope they will have many many years of happiness each knowing and accepting what happened.

I do hope Priscilla will tell her the whole truth and not her version of the truth.
She seems to change a lot of versions, well I do hope her daughter knows at least the truth and nothing but...

I agree riley, l think the turth should be told before its to late and lisa will never know.

riley
09-17-2007, 08:15 AM
I sure hope the same, P31(y)(y)

Suzan
09-17-2007, 05:03 PM
I think Elvis & Pris did have time alone, they lived together for 5 yrs. before their marriage...
I don't think Pris will ever tell Lisa the real truth. :(

presley31
09-17-2007, 05:07 PM
They didn't really have time to alone as a couple would, not with the MM living with them all the time and being around elvis every second of the day.

Tony Trout
09-17-2007, 05:47 PM
An Elvis Junior "reliving" his father's work and life? You're joking ... right?

Firstly, a son galavanting around on stage wouldn't have eased anyone's pain at losing their idol. To that, I have two words for you: Julian Lennon.

Second, why would he be an exact replica? He may have looked like Cilla, or whichever woman with whom Elvis had had another child.

Finally, contrary to what some believe, musical talent is not genetic in any way. Again, two words: Lisa Marie.

Personally, I find the very concept of Elvis' "son" up on stage doing his daddy's works ... bizarre, to say the least.


I would add "very bizarre" to that.....



Singing is not genetic. Look at Bing Crosby's kids.

You can say that again...



To say the least, she is a disgrace to Elvis memory

I frankly think that statement is uncalled for...she's his daughter...she's not perfect and has made mistakes in her life but to say that she is a disgrace to Elvis's memory is like a slap in the face to her.



And would you happen to be sexist Ricardo?


I'm beginning to wonder the same thing......:hmm::hmm:

Diane
09-17-2007, 05:53 PM
I don't think they ever had time alone from the day she arrived at Graceland . Not on their Hawaii vacation, not at the circle G ranch or in Los Angeles, not even on their honeymoon - nowhere, but she knew this long before they married. He never seemed to want to be alone with her and I can't help but wonder why.

Diane

Suzan
09-17-2007, 05:55 PM
Good ? Diane.:D
Here's the thing though, to hear Pris version in the book and now, she says they did have alone time, for days on end up in his bedroom.
Irregardless she knew all of this before she married him.

presley31
09-17-2007, 05:57 PM
I don't think they ever had time alone from the day she arrived at Graceland . Not on their Hawaii vacation, not at the circle G ranch or in Los Angeles, not even on their honeymoon - nowhere, but she knew this long before they married. He never seemed to want to be alone with her and I can't help but wonder why.

Diane

Agreed diane, wonder why too:hmm:

Diane
09-17-2007, 06:03 PM
Maybe they did, I would hope so otherwise why did he get married at all? :) Not a whole lot makes sense in what Priscilla and some others have to say.

For instance, you hear and read what Jerry, Ed Parker and Charlie have to say about Elvis, then when you get to Sonny, Marty and Lamar, they are talking about a whole different person.

(We're in the wrong thread for this discussion lol)

Diane

Suzan
09-17-2007, 06:10 PM
Maybe they did, I would hope so otherwise why did he get married at all? :) Not a whole lot makes sense in what Priscilla and some others have to say.

For instance, you hear and read what Jerry, Ed Parker and Charlie have to say about Elvis, then when you get to Sonny, Marty and Lamar, they are talking about a whole different person.

(We're in the wrong thread for this discussion lol)

Diane

I noticed that to, and I to have wondered why? Is it that he maybe showed them 2 different sides? But u know watching footage of Elvis in Concert 1972I think they all saw the same man. Who knows. I can't stand Lamar.

I think they did spend time alone from reading what she had to say and hearing her talk about it. So she contradicts herself alot from moment to moment in a space of an interview.

We are? lol yeah I guess we are. lol

franny
09-17-2007, 06:22 PM
I think it was more because of Elvis' lifestyle! He already had this kind of life, with the MM always around, before Priscilla and that never changed.

It must have been hard to have 10 men in a house on a regular basis, it's no wonder they never had alone time...

franny

presley31
09-17-2007, 06:23 PM
I think it was more because of Elvis' lifestyle! He already had this kind of life, with the MM always around, before Priscilla and that never changed.

It must have been hard to have 10 men in a house on a regular basis, it's no wonder they never had alone time...

franny

Agreed Franny (y)

Suzan
09-17-2007, 06:26 PM
I agree Franny, it must be difficult, I've had some experience w/a lot of people being in my home, and it's not easy, but you know if you live w/that and you know before your married then it's a decision you make, it's not like out of nowhere she got married and came to live w/him and then found out about the living situation, you know what I mean?
And by her own acct. they did have time alone for days on end up in his bedroom.

Suzan
09-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Sidenote: also per Pris acct. when they spent time @ the Circle G ranch, they were alone in the trailer, granted guys were on property, but they spent time alone in the trailer.
Elvis once asked one of his guys after Pris left "What did she think was going to happen? That I would start wearing suits and drinking wine every night?" or something like that.

presley31
09-17-2007, 06:32 PM
I don't know what happend cause l wasn't there but l feel they didn't have any time together, thats not very healthy for any relationship to last in my opinion.

Suzan
09-17-2007, 10:04 PM
I don't know either I'm basing my opinion on what she has said...and again not like she didn't know, she lived that lifestyle for 5 yrs. prior to marrying him....

riley
09-18-2007, 12:37 AM
she did know what to expect but maybe being very young she all accepted it and then after realising "hey I'm the Mrs of the house now," she tough things were going to change her way.

I once heard a very pointing comment about her, supposedly said by Elvis;

"Priscilla wants to keep me on a leech, locking me up in a room from which she is the only one to have the key"

I think it was ofcourse not literally stated but I think he had the impression she was very very jealous and wanted him all alone for her.

Wrong guy to choose then:lmfao:

Mayba just maybe she did love him very very much, in her still childish way, was afraid to loose him and became very possesive, jealous and annoying.

I heard also a long time ago a story about two fans standing at the gate and Elvis took his time with them, was relaxed , nice and everything...

Pris was pregnant at the time and she came up the driveway, clearly not pleased to find her husband there with the fans.
She looked annoyed, disturbed and wanted him to come to the house. When he saw her, he changed and quickly took off, running behind her back, smoothtalking, making up appoligies. The fans were left alone and Pris didn't even bother to look at them.

Suzan
09-18-2007, 12:42 AM
Could be Riley, interesting points, but I don't buy it, simply for the fact that NOBODY is that nieve...she knew EXACTLY what she was getting into, I think.:D

Yes I did hear both those stories and one where she actually got into a fight w/a female fan, hair pulling and all! I thought Oh my, what a way to behave...

I've heard other things Elvis said and one of them just made me laugh because it showed his great sense of humor but it also showed that what she is claiming of him is totally false.

Again only 2 people know for sure what REALLY happened and one is not truthful and the other is not here to give his side or defend himself.

I will say one more thing, lol big surprise ;), hearing what I"ve heard about Elvis (including the bad), reading what he was like by those that knew him, speaking to those that knew him, I find it hard to believe that he was the way he Pris claims he was in some of her re-cantations. :)

riley
09-18-2007, 12:52 AM
the female fan fight I did hear also, is also in some books in different versions.
I do know it annoyed Elvis big time but stories differ.
Did he attack the car of that women also or did he simply got upset towards Pris for behaving like that.
Not sure:hmm:

THere are various stories from witnesses, gate girls at the time, who speak about meeting or seeing her and it was until now never a positive one:hmm:

Nowadays she is nice to the fans but back in those days people tell different:hmm:

The comment you are referring too Suzan, about his humor and about prooving she lied about something in the marriage I think what you mean.;)

Can it be we had the same source of information, it is funny.:hmm::hmm:

Suzan
09-18-2007, 01:04 AM
Hi Riley! :D:D
I heard he was upset w/the whole situation, but mostly by how Pris reacted...he said something along the lines (and almost always what he said) was that those were his fans and that without them he would have nothing and was quite upset that she actually got physical w/one of them...though I did also hear from another source (and also in a book version) that he chased the women down the street (they were in the car), but like you said who knows for sure.

I have heard same and I had my own not so nice encounter w/miss Pris few yrs. back lol

Lisa on other hand is a super sweetheart...very much has her father's heart and is gentle w/the fans like he was.:D:D (had to add that cause I just LOVE her) :) She was beautiful toward me...

You know the comment I'm speaking of? lol funny huh?

Could be, could be...small world! :D:D:D:D

presley31
09-18-2007, 06:19 AM
the female fan fight I did hear also, is also in some books in different versions.
I do know it annoyed Elvis big time but stories differ.
Did he attack the car of that women also or did he simply got upset towards Pris for behaving like that.
Not sure:hmm:

THere are various stories from witnesses, gate girls at the time, who speak about meeting or seeing her and it was until now never a positive one:hmm:

Nowadays she is nice to the fans but back in those days people tell different:hmm:

The comment you are referring too Suzan, about his humor and about prooving she lied about something in the marriage I think what you mean.;)

Can it be we had the same source of information, it is funny.:hmm::hmm:

don't think she's turly that bad, but l not going to bash someone theres enough of that going on now(n)

riley
09-18-2007, 07:20 AM
Jen,

what is there exactly you have difficulties to believe in my last post??

I would gladly enlighten it if necessary.

presley31
09-18-2007, 07:24 AM
doesn't matter, l just stick to my thoughts about priscilla, clearly l'am out numbered.

Getlo
09-18-2007, 07:25 AM
doesn't matter, l just stick to my thoughts about priscilla, clearly l'am out numbered.

Please ... just give us an opinion!!!!

presley31
09-18-2007, 07:28 AM
Please ... just give us an opinion!!!!

Just put you on the ignore list again.

Getlo
09-18-2007, 07:41 AM
Just put you on the ignore list again.

As before ... fine with me!

Please stick to it this time. (y)

Suzan
09-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Thank you Riley and thank you again Getlo!!!!!!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworth y:notworthy:notworthy

presley31
09-18-2007, 06:56 PM
Maybe they did, I would hope so otherwise why did he get married at all? :) Not a whole lot makes sense in what Priscilla and some others have to say.

For instance, you hear and read what Jerry, Ed Parker and Charlie have to say about Elvis, then when you get to Sonny, Marty and Lamar, they are talking about a whole different person.

(We're in the wrong thread for this discussion lol)

Diane

good points diane(y)(y)

Lisarose
09-19-2007, 08:44 PM
An Elvis Junior "reliving" his father's work and life? You're joking ... right?

Firstly, a son galavanting around on stage wouldn't have eased anyone's pain at losing their idol. To that, I have two words for you: Julian Lennon.

Personally, I find the very concept of Elvis' "son" up on stage doing his daddy's works ... bizarre, to say the least.

Or three words, Hank Williams, JR. Whereas, I love Hank Jr. now, when his mother was forcing him to only sing his daddy's music, it was not a pretty picture.

Suzan
09-19-2007, 08:49 PM
Or three words, Hank Williams, JR. Whereas, I love Hank Jr. now, when his mother was forcing him to only sing his daddy's music, it was not a pretty picture.

So true!

I would not want any child to have to be forced to do anything like that, children are individuals, they make look like their parents, etc...but they are not them, they have their own minds, feelings, thoughts, so forth.