Elvis and other children

[presley31]

Thought l make a thread cause some people think there more children out there, whats your thoughts about this????

[ksimms2]

I've often wondered the same thing and have heard rumors, but I do not know for sure....interesting to hear what others have to say.

[Getlo]

Definitely possible, considering the many women Elvis was with throughout the course of his life.

Actually, more than possible ... it's probable, ie more likely than not. I'm sure there may have been a couple of women who had a kid with Elvis, but kept it quiet ... carried the secret to their graves, or will do one day.

DNA testing would settle debates once and for all, but that will never happen. Based on probability and general odds, it is highly unlikely Lisa is Elvis' only biological child.

[elvis himselvis]

I don't think Elvis had other children.
I think he knew what he was doing and was carefull.

[jatta-tcb]

Careless Love - book is telling about one girl who were pregnant and the child was Elvis'..but took an adoption and never told this to Elvis.. or something like that.

[Diane]

I agree with Elvis Himself - I think Elvis was careful and doesn't have any other children besides Lisa Marie.

Diane

[beau stewart]

there is one he live in las vegas and it he has been tested and the courts have said is name is Elvis JR if you go on line you will fined his site


TCB:king:

[ksimms2]

there is one he live in las vegas and it he has been tested and the courts have said is name is Elvis JR if you go on line you will fined his site


TCB:king:

huh? I've never heard that, would you post this link if you have it? As for Elvis being very careful, I find that hard to believe because if he was indeed doing pills and such...when you are high...you aren't thinking clearly. But I wasn't there, so of course I don't know 100%. Plus all the bed hopping being done...I just can't believe he was always 100% careful.....or the girl could have said, "I'm on the pill" and been lying.....oh heck, who knows! :blink:

[jatta-tcb]

there is one he live in las vegas and it he has been tested and the courts have said is name is Elvis JR if you go on line you will fined his site


TCB:king:I have read about this guy.. and I know this site..
you can read his blog here: http://iselvismydad.blogspot.com/

:)

[presley31]

there is one he live in las vegas and it he has been tested and the courts have said is name is Elvis JR if you go on line you will fined his site


TCB:king:

If thats true than why doesn't he want to know Lisa>????????

[Getlo]

If thats true than why doesn't he want to know Lisa>????????


I wouldn't want to know her either ... even if Elvis was my dad! :lol:

[presley31]

http://www.elvisjr.com/

Is this the guy your talking about being elvis son??? I think he looks like wayne newton.

I would love to know LIsa if l was elvis's kid

[Getlo]

From his site ...

Elvis Jr. first entered the spotlight as a circus clown.

:lol:

[Diane]

What a lot of you are forgetting is that by the time the drugs were affecting Elvis' mind and judgment he was also pretty impotent so yes, I still doubt that he had any other children.

Diane

[jatta-tcb]

http://iselvismydad.blogspot.com/

this guy is another guy then :huh:

[Getlo]

What a lot of you are forgetting is that by the time the drugs were affecting Elvis' mind and judgment he was also pretty impotent so yes, I still doubt that he had any other children.


But what about early on, in the 50s and 60s? As ksimms2 said, any girl involved could've said she was on the pill when she wasn't.

And as for Elvis being "careful" ... what does that mean? The only 100% guaranteed method of contraception is to not have sex in the first place.

[ksimms2]

wow..great thread....yes there are 2 men claiming to be Elvis' sons.....

[presley31]

But what about early on, in the 50s and 60s? As ksimms2 said, any girl involved could've said she was on the pill when she wasn't.

And as for Elvis being "careful" ... what does that mean? The only 100% guaranteed method of contraception is to not have sex in the first place.

Are you hoping there's more children, cause it seems like you trying to convince us???

[Getlo]

Are you hoping there's more children, cause it seems like you trying to convince us???

I may be rather new here, presley31, but I find your manners leave a lot to be desired, both towards me and other posters. You seem quite aggressive at times. Perhaps it's the difficulty of the written word not being able to convey what one is thinking as accurately as an actual conversation, I don't know ... ;)

I believe this thread is to offer one's opinions as to whether or not there may be Elvis offspring in the world, which I have done. And I have also asked questions of people if I'd like to hear more of their opinions.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other whether there are Elvis sprogs out there, nor have I any wish to "convince" people of anything.

[ksimms2]

I'm sure he's not hoping there is more children, just stating a fact. And actually, with no DNA proof, there is only 1 Elvis child and that's Lisa.....so it doesn't really matter what anyone else says....without DNA cannot be proven as fact.

[Getlo]

I'm sure he's not hoping there is more children, just stating a fact.

Thank you ... (y)

[Burning_Love]

I have Elvis the definitive collection and women were saying that "love making was hard because he would never 'finish' it" Sorry to be rude but i thought this would help. He would do this because he was scared of women getting pregnant.

[Getlo]

. He would do this because he was scared of women getting pregnant.

Who isn't! :lol:

[presley31]

I may be rather new here, presley31, but I find your manners leave a lot to be desired, both towards me and other posters. You seem quite aggressive at times. Perhaps it's the difficulty of the written word not being able to convey what one is thinking as accurately as an actual conversation, I don't know ... ;)

I believe this thread is to offer one's opinions as to whether or not there may be Elvis offspring in the world, which I have done. And I have also asked questions of people if I'd like to hear more of their opinions.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other whether there are Elvis sprogs out there, nor have I any wish to "convince" people of anything.

Stick to the topic!!!!!!!!

[presley31]

I have Elvis the definitive collection and women were saying that "love making was hard because he would never 'finish' it" Sorry to be rude but i thought this would help. He would do this because he was scared of women getting pregnant.

well said burning (y)(y)

[ksimms2]

Who isn't! :lol:

you guys crack me up!!! :lol:

I just ordered a DVD about Elvis, What Happened (no not the book) and one of his girlfriends is on it talking about the bedroom stuff...so when I get it and watch it, will let ya'll know what she says....

ONCE AGAIN MAY I PLEASE SAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DISCUSS ABOUT ELVIS, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE WAY WE FEEL ABOUT HIM! SOME TAKE IT AS WE DON'T LOVE HIM AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE! YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE MAN WAS NOT PERFECT - IT'S OKAY - NOBODY IS PERFECT.

[ksimms2]

I have Elvis the definitive collection and women were saying that "love making was hard because he would never 'finish' it" Sorry to be rude but i thought this would help. He would do this because he was scared of women getting pregnant.

If I were him, I'd be scared too....just getting to have sex with Elvis was a great honor to those fortunate enough (yes, that is the way us females would look at it) but then to get pregnant by him, can you imagine the gossip mill? The lawsuits? The paternity suits? It would all be about $$$$$ So I don't blame him for being worried. :'(

[Burning_Love]

you guys crack me up!!! :lol:

I just ordered a DVD about Elvis, What Happened (no not the book) and one of his girlfriends is on it talking about the bedroom stuff...so when I get it and watch it, will let ya'll know what she says....

ONCE AGAIN MAY I PLEASE SAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DISCUSS ABOUT ELVIS, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE WAY WE FEEL ABOUT HIM! SOME TAKE IT AS WE DON'T LOVE HIM AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE! YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE MAN WAS NOT PERFECT - IT'S OKAY - NOBODY IS PERFECT.


Oooo what DVD is this Kelly ?? I have never heard of it..??:hmm: (sorry about being off topic guys..forgive me)

[Getlo]

Stick to the topic!!!!!!!!


Sorry ... didn't realise you were a moderator. :'(

[Burning_Love]

well said burning

Thanks :clap:



If I were him, I'd be scared too....just getting to have sex with Elvis was a great honor to those fortunate enough (yes, that is the way us females would look at it) but then to get pregnant by him, can you imagine the gossip mill? The lawsuits? The paternity suits? It would all be about $$$$$ So I don't blame him for being worried.

Exactly !!!!

[presley31]

I agree elvis would be scared to gettting someone preggers. I read once that elvis mom used to tell him to be careful they didn't want babies.

[ksimms2]

Elvis the final chapter - what happened and why?



dvd is new and factory sealed.

Description:

Journey through the last years of Elvis? life ? as told by the people who were there 24 hours a day. You?ll hear the real story from Joe Esposito, Elvis? friend and personal assistant from the day they left the army until the day Elvis died. You?ll hear an amazing story from Sheila Ryan, one of Elvis? long-term love affairs. She was there for over two years in Las Vegas, on tours, at Graceland, and in the bedroom. Her incredible story will surprise, shock and sadden you as she tells of Elvis? long downward spiral of abuse from prescription drugs, eating disorders, mood swings, unusual love-making behavior, and much, much more. She was there through it all.This is the first time she has ever told her story ? a compelling and candid interview. Joe Esposito will tell you of Elvis? idiosyncrasies ? his obsession with guns, karate, his extreme generosities, and his relationships with women. You?ll hear the story of Don Wilson, whom Elvis befriended as a 10-year-old boy when his entire family died in a tragic accident. Elvis remained Don?s friend until the day he died. Many of Elvis? close friends and co-stars; Sheree North, Mary Ann Mobley, Diane McBain and Steve Rossi will explain the relationship between Elvis and Colonel Tom Parker and the extraordinary control "The Colonel" had over Elvis. The true story of why Priscilla left Elvis for Karate instructor, Mike Stone will also be revealed. The Final Chapter is told in interviews, Film Clips, News Footage, Home Movies, Re-enactments and Footage from Elvis? last tours. ELVIS: THE FINAL CHAPTER uncovers the mystery and rumors surrounding the death of the greatest entertainer the world has ever known - Elvis.


I found it on ebay and it's new/sealed in package.....should be interesting.

[presley31]

Never heard of it, please let us know if its good.

[Burning_Love]

Elvis the final chapter - what happened and why?



dvd is new and factory sealed.

Description:

Journey through the last years of Elvis? life ? as told by the people who were there 24 hours a day. You?ll hear the real story from Joe Esposito, Elvis? friend and personal assistant from the day they left the army until the day Elvis died. You?ll hear an amazing story from Sheila Ryan, one of Elvis? long-term love affairs. She was there for over two years in Las Vegas, on tours, at Graceland, and in the bedroom. Her incredible story will surprise, shock and sadden you as she tells of Elvis? long downward spiral of abuse from prescription drugs, eating disorders, mood swings, unusual love-making behavior, and much, much more. She was there through it all.This is the first time she has ever told her story ? a compelling and candid interview. Joe Esposito will tell you of Elvis? idiosyncrasies ? his obsession with guns, karate, his extreme generosities, and his relationships with women. You?ll hear the story of Don Wilson, whom Elvis befriended as a 10-year-old boy when his entire family died in a tragic accident. Elvis remained Don?s friend until the day he died. Many of Elvis? close friends and co-stars; Sheree North, Mary Ann Mobley, Diane McBain and Steve Rossi will explain the relationship between Elvis and Colonel Tom Parker and the extraordinary control "The Colonel" had over Elvis. The true story of why Priscilla left Elvis for Karate instructor, Mike Stone will also be revealed. The Final Chapter is told in interviews, Film Clips, News Footage, Home Movies, Re-enactments and Footage from Elvis? last tours. ELVIS: THE FINAL CHAPTER uncovers the mystery and rumors surrounding the death of the greatest entertainer the world has ever known - Elvis.


I found it on ebay and it's new/sealed in package.....should be interesting.

Thanks sooo much (y):clap:(y):clap:

I'm Intrigued :notworthy(y):P:D

[Getlo]

Elvis the final chapter - what happened and why?

I found it on ebay and it's new/sealed in package.....should be interesting.


I have this. I haven't watched it for a while, but I think it's just the 70s stuff from the Definitive Elvis set, rejigged.

I may be wrong, but I'll have to check the contents again.

My copy has an Aloha pic on the front cover.

[ksimms2]

it's new to me, so I'll watch it with an open mind and let you guys know how it is....they have more copies for sale, $5.99 plus shipping...just do a search for the title.

[ksimms2]

Yessss!!! I have now graduated to Cadillac King!! Woo-hoo!! Now I have a long way to go to next level! ;)

[Burning_Love]

Yessss!!! I have now graduated to Cadillac King!! Woo-hoo!! Now I have a long way to go to next level! ;)
WOOO it's fun going up to the next level !! I am near 'Tcb Mafia' hehe :D

I have the definitive collection dvd and says a lot about Elvis and women..but it's always interesting to hear more so i'll think about buying that dvd.

[Diane]

I have Elvis the definitive collection and women were saying that "love making was hard because he would never 'finish' it" Sorry to be rude but i thought this would help. He would do this because he was scared of women getting pregnant.

This is why I felt no other woman got pregnant in his younger years but didn't have the guts to say it.....thanks Danielle.:P

Later on it was the impotency because of the drugs. Much as some people would like to believe there is another Elvis child out there, I don't because of the above.

Diane

[Burning_Love]

This is why I felt no other woman got pregnant in his younger years but didn't have the guts to say it.....thanks Danielle.:P

Later on it was the impotency because of the drugs. Much as some people would like to believe there is another Elvis child out there, I don't because of the above.

Diane

That's Ok Diane, i heard it and thought that it was true because Elvis was a precautious man.

[ksimms2]

but we all learned in school that "pulling out" as they say is not fool proof.....so if that was his intentions...that was sort of silly cause it don't always work....ask the high school girls who were promised by their boyfriends that "if we do it this way you won't get pregnant"....yea right....famous last words! lol....:blink:

[presley31]

This is why I felt no other woman got pregnant in his younger years but didn't have the guts to say it.....thanks Danielle.:P

Later on it was the impotency because of the drugs. Much as some people would like to believe there is another Elvis child out there, I don't because of the above.

Diane
I agree with everything you said there diane

[The King's Queen]

You know, my Momma always says "Never say never!"...and I have learned that she is wise to go by that rule. I'm not saying yes or no on this one. But I believe that there is always a possibility. Elvis did get around...and I have to say that I doubt that there weren't some "careless" moments...who knows? :doh: But if there would be credible evidence, then why not let them be DNA tested...??

[justcurious]

Re: the DVD (which does include talk of his, erhum...intimacy issues). It was filmed not too long ago (maybe sometime between 25th-30th anniversary)...please someone correct me if I am wrong.

Anyway, Sheila Ryan is one of those interviewed and she talks about their bedroom antics and his ability to uh...for lack of a better word-go all the way. She did say that all of the drugs affected his 'performance' and it was, ummm, can't remember how she put it, but basically when he was ready, the girl had to be ready and then he wouldn't really 'be ready' so to speak. That has been written many times (will look for written sources to back this up).

Even though he may have had tons of one-nighters, he wasn't known for being the 'most' intimate guy (again, read it and will find it-not that I am claiming these authors are 100% true, seriously, who really knows but Elvis and the peeps he slept with-sorry to put it so bluntly).

Didn't even old lady 'Cilla (now don't jump all over me 'cilla lovers) say something to the effect that they weren't very intimate often after LM was born didn't 'have relations'??? please correct me if I am wrong....

PS- don't you think that if there are any other kids milling about, they would sort come out (not to mention the mothers that bore them)? I mean heck, practically everyone who has known him has written a book and spilled some sort of sordid detail or another (or so they claim), so why would the mother of one of his children do so too....can't you see the title now? 'My One Night in Elvis'. (sorry had to). I mean it would have been 1 thing if the Col. were alive, he would have most certainly put a lid on that, but now...with all of this popularity reaching brilliant new heights??? C'mon...

Now go on and take on the day!!! :king:

[riley]

I read Joyce Bova had an abortion from his child

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I may be rather new here, presley31, but I find your manners leave a lot to be desired, both towards me and other posters. You seem quite aggressive at times. Perhaps it's the difficulty of the written word not being able to convey what one is thinking as accurately as an actual conversation, I don't know ... ;)

I believe this thread is to offer one's opinions as to whether or not there may be Elvis offspring in the world, which I have done. And I have also asked questions of people if I'd like to hear more of their opinions.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other whether there are Elvis sprogs out there, nor have I any wish to "convince" people of anything.


Stick to the topic!!!!!!!!

Please try to keep things civil (y)

Matt
Moderator

[ksimms2]

if you guys read the web site that someone prior posted about "elvis, jr." it stated in there that his mom was an actress and Elvis was just becoming big and she gave him up for adoption.....wonder who that was?

"justcurious" thank you for those comments, and yes, I believe that is probably what Sheila Ryan will say and also yes about 'Cilla....she pretty much said after Lisa Marie was born they pretty much quit having sex....and some say that he put her on a pedestal and didn't think of her in those terms...she was his "Madonna" and so he felt he didn't want to "taint" her so to speak....while he was a "tainting" all the other females around the country.....lol.....(don't yell at me here, only repeating what I've heard/read, etc.)

[The King's Queen]

PS- don't you think that if there are any other kids milling about, they would sort come out (not to mention the mothers that bore them)? I mean heck, practically everyone who has known him has written a book and spilled some sort of sordid detail or another (or so they claim), so why would the mother of one of his children do so too....can't you see the title now? 'My One Night in Elvis'. (sorry had to). I mean it would have been 1 thing if the Col. were alive, he would have most certainly put a lid on that, but now...with all of this popularity reaching brilliant new heights??? C'mon...

You have some very valid points (y) But I would like to think that there are quite a few women in this world who would be more modest than to spill their guts on a relationship/one nighter with Elvis...may even be some out there who don't want anyone to know...just because they may not want the publicity or negativity that surfacing would bring. :doh: In either event, I would like to think that any children he may have fathered, other than Lisa, would not want to claim a chunk of his estate...wishful thinking probably, but if it were me I wouldn't want anything other than confirmation of who I really am. Does that make sense??? lol.

But you are certainly right about all of the books and the "Whose Who" among supposed friends and lovers...it gets crazy, doesn't it??? :blink:

Bottom line is, I don't suppose we will know for sure until DNA is done.

[ksimms2]

well according to the www.elvisjr.com site and his blog, he did try contacting the EPE and asked for DNA, etc. and was shot down or never replied to, etc. But he changed his name legally to Elvis Aaron Presley, Jr. because according to the site, he had enough evidence to prove he very well may be Elvis' son. But do you honestly think Priscilla or Lisa through E.P.E. would ever consent to DNA? Heck no.....they are saying that Lisa would be their only way because she would be their sibling......I say "their" because there is a 50yr old man claiming to be Elvis son too and his mom swore on her death bed she is telling the truth.....you guys should check those sites out if you haven't already....it is interesting to say the least.

[justcurious]

Running to a meeting, and CAN'T wait post more later but just had to check out that Elvis, jr website- I think that someone commented earlier, doesn't he look IDENTICAL to Wayne Newton? Seriously. Secondly, I am all for him legally changing his name if the courts granted it, but would you just love to see the 'evidence' in El's will that 'proves' the existence of another child? Y'all, where can we get our hands on that version? I mean we have all seen the 'court filed' document, but if there is one that make provisions for his 'son', then show me show me show me....otherwise, maybe he should call Wayne Newton for a DNA test, they sure do look a heck of a lot alike!!! Agreed though, some interesting points...see y'all back here later! :lol:

[presley31]

sorry but that elvis jr looks nothing like elvis, he's not very good looking to say the least.

[jatta-tcb]

I read Joyce Bova had an abortion from his child

That is a thing I was talking about on the first page of this topic.. I just couldn't remember the name of this girl.

[KPM]

there is one he live in las vegas and it he has been tested and the courts have said is name is Elvis JR if you go on line you will fined his site


TCB:king:
All this guy did was have his name legally changed to Elvis Presley Jr.
He has not had any DNA testing, he says he is Elvis's son but it has not been proven. He just changed his name to ELvis legally. Anyone can change their name if they legally want to. If he had legally been found Elvis's son he would be entitled to a share in the estate.
The will has a section which deals with his daughter Lisa and "any other lawful issue I might have"- legal mumbo jumbo for any other children. So this guy has not been found to be Elvis's legal son or he would be sharing in the estate. Later in the will is another section -Item V-Distribution to Minor Children
So there are provisions in case Elvis had had other children. Evidently so far none have been proven to be his.

[KPM]

Johnny Cash once said that in the 50s Elvis had a mission "to see how many girls he could bed" he added - "he did pretty good too!"
I think Elvis's fantasys with women had probably been fullfilled by the time the 70s rolled around.
You know you can love ice cream with all your heart, but when you've had every flavor - the thrill is not the same. Was that delicate enough?;)

[Getlo]

I have this. I haven't watched it for a while, but I think it's just the 70s stuff from the Definitive Elvis set, rejigged.

I may be wrong, but I'll have to check the contents again.

My copy has an Aloha pic on the front cover.

I just checked: this DVD is stuff from Definitive Elvis, rejigged.

It uses stuff from two or three of the DVDs, but it a more cohesive way. I think the DE set should've used this one as a disc to itself.

But it's definitely worth getting, especially if you can find it cheap!

[Suzan]

I believe the Sheila Ryan dvd was a project by Joe Esposito, "Rare Moments With The King"...I have that dvd and yes that is what Sheila Ryan or something to that effect.:)

I don't know, I think it could be possible, but who knows...I've really no opinion either way.

As for Prissy, well she's since changed her story and in a interview in London in 2005 (06)? she said that they did have sex after Lisa was born, that she didn't know why people thought they didn't...well duh because she said so...anyway, I've heard from those around Elvis that Pris had an abortion prior to Lisa (b4 their marriage) and another after Lisa...and that Elvis knew about them, and one of his bodyguards/friends said in a book that he heard Elvis yelling in his sleep that he knew "what she did" or something to that effect...but again who knows...
It would be nice though to have another child by him w/us.:)

[ksimms2]

I believe the Sheila Ryan dvd was a project by Joe Esposito, "Rare Moments With The King"...I have that dvd and yes that is what Sheila Ryan or something to that effect.:)

I don't know, I think it could be possible, but who knows...I've really no opinion either way.

As for Prissy, well she's since changed her story and in a interview in London in 2005 (06)? she said that they did have sex after Lisa was born, that she didn't know why people thought they didn't...well duh because she said so...anyway, I've heard from those around Elvis that Pris had an abortion prior to Lisa (b4 their marriage) and another after Lisa...and that Elvis knew about them, and one of his bodyguards/friends said in a book that he heard Elvis yelling in his sleep that he knew "what she did" or something to that effect...but again who knows...
It would be nice though to have another child by him w/us.:)

Wow Suzan, this is certainly interesting and yes, Priscilla is the one who said they either rarely or didn't have sex after Lisa was born. So if she had an abortion before their marriage then she wasn't a virgin when they got married and why would she have one after? Either #1 it wasnt Elvis' child or #2 she wanted out and didn't want another child involved. Very interesting. :supriced:

[The King's Queen]

As for Prissy, well she's since changed her story and in a interview in London in 2005 (06)? she said that they did have sex after Lisa was born, that she didn't know why people thought they didn't...well duh because she said so...anyway, I've heard from those around Elvis that Pris had an abortion prior to Lisa (b4 their marriage) and another after Lisa...and that Elvis knew about them, and one of his bodyguards/friends said in a book that he heard Elvis yelling in his sleep that he knew "what she did" or something to that effect...but again who knows...
It would be nice though to have another child by him w/us.:)

Thanks for posting this Suzan. (y) Does it REALLY surprise anyone that she had changed her story?? :doh: I too heard that she had aborted a pregnancy or two. I find that weird to say the least...especially the one that supposedly took place AFTER Lisa was born. :hmm: I wonder what the motive behind that was??? One thing's for sure, if we depend on her for the truth of the matter, we shall SURELY never know...:!:

[presley31]

Wow Suzan, this is certainly interesting and yes, Priscilla is the one who said they either rarely or didn't have sex after Lisa was born. So if she had an abortion before their marriage then she wasn't a virgin when they got married and why would she have one after? Either #1 it wasnt Elvis' child or #2 she wanted out and didn't want another child involved. Very interesting. :supriced:

strange indeed

[Burning_Love]

how did you know about the abortion?? She had one with micheal Edwards.

Yes Jen, i'd like to know too please :D And i only knew about the micheal edwards one. There are a lot of stories out there i guess we'll never know..

[presley31]

true enough
I know priscilla and elvis did other things but they didn't go all the way.

[Getlo]

We only have Priscilla's word that they didn't go all the way before the actual marriage though.

Who here believes her?

[presley31]

Elvis in started in books that he wanted priscilla to be a virgin, and l for one believe elvis.

[Burning_Love]

I think were forgetting she was 14 years old, and he would have been looked down upon if he had slept with her at that age, and he would have got into lots of trouble. But hey, like i always say, we shall never know :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[ksimms2]

We only have Priscilla's word that they didn't go all the way before the actual marriage though.

Who here believes her?

I don't know as I 100% believe her...yes maybe when she was 14 - but how about later on? She was living with him for goodness sake - in the same bedroom...I can't believe that they both had that much control - I know in her movie it shows her wanting him to make love to her - but him telling her they needed to wait......but really....if you were in bed with Elvis....would you wait?? :blink:

[Getlo]

but really....if you were in bed with Elvis....would you wait?? :blink:

Well, I for one wouldn't have gone to bed with him, not for all the money in the world! :lol::blush:

[ksimms2]

Well, I for one wouldn't have gone to bed with him, not for all the money in the world! :lol::blush:

Okay, that comment was for us females! :blush:

[presley31]

elvis thought that girls that slept with you before marrige were dirty girls. he would never marry one.

[ksimms2]

elvis thought that girls that slept with you before marrige were dirty girls. he would never marry one.

Jen, (right? I think that's your name... :) ) I'd like to know what books you are reading to know all this info first hand....cause I want to read them too....;)

[presley31]

kelly some of the books l have read are by priscilla, mm, wanda, but you have to make up your own mind on what elvis was like, you didn't see him staying with to many girls that sleep around. BUt l will try to find some more infor about elvis not sleeping with dirty girls.

[presley31]

wasn't it true that when elvis was going through the bible things he preaches that girls should wait till there married before going all the way.

[ksimms2]

I'm not sure...that's why I was asking you ;)

I've only so far read Jerry Schilling's book - which was good but didn't talk too much about his romantic stuff...it hinted at it - even the fact that Elvis slept with a girlfriend of his in California and he felt so guilty he told Jerry eventually.

I don't care to read Priscilla's "Elvis & Me" because after seeing that movie....well...I just don't think I'd like the book.

Am waiting for Joe Esposito's new book now....so will see how that one is....(if I ever get it - sure is taking them long enough)

[presley31]

We went on discussing women and men's feelings about sex etc: and love and he said that men were not made to be faithful, it was women who began to want to be able to depend on one guy, raise kids etc: and that it was as God intended and he quoted scripture about how it was good for a man to keep his wife a virgin etc: and that men should take care of their wives etc: and that women should always be true, obediant to her husband and he ought to treat her fairly, love her etc: and take care of the family in every way they needed. A man should always be there for his family, and he quoted the scripture of no greater love has a man than he lay down his life for his friends etc: and that God's one main commandment was to Love one another as He has loved us. And that meant to be fair, kind, understanding of others in their trials and misunderstandings etc: and that a man should try to be faithful to his wife, but if she is unhappy with the marriage he ought to let her go and not be bitter and revengeful. And he said he'd have a problem with that, he thought, and he wanted to be sure before he married that whomever she would be was ready to be his wife, ready to commit to him and him alone and that she would understand that he had to be free at times, to get away and do things he'd always done with music and his buddies. And that he'd always come home to his wife, his family and they'd always have the assurance he would be true and faithful and always love her and the children above all others. I recall saying that sounds like you think of it as kind of a double standard and he said, no, he'd be faithful if he had the right woman and she was true to him and loved him as he was. He didn't want her to go changing him or trying to make things her way because his life was different and he had to do certain things that she might not understand but it wouldn't be because he didn't love her. His wife would be a treasure that he would always want with him, she'd keep the home, with kids and aplace of peace and quiet for him because he needed that. She would have to understand that he had a need to have a place, a home to come to and not fuss and carry on about his being gone doing other things and he said whatever he was doing was for her, the kids and the people he cared about, she would have to understand that part of him and his life. He didn't want to be tied down and have to worry about coming home to a wife that was going to jump down his throat because he was late or he hadn't called or something.
And she wasn't to question him about what he might have been doing, some things he didn't feel a wife had to worry about, or needed to know-like business and etc: that was a man's world and he wouldn't want her involved in it. Especially not the Hollywood kind of life, that was a thing he never wanted his wife to be involved in-the party scene etc:. And unfortunately, she wanted to be and wanted to go out and be seen with him etc: and he wouldn't do it, though he did have a few friends he'd go have dinner with and etc: at his house. But those were quiet times, not the Hollywood glitz parties etc:. Not his thing-he wouldn't budge.

This is just alittle something l found.

[ksimms2]

We went on discussing women and men's feelings about sex etc: and love and he said that men were not made to be faithful, it was women who began to want to be able to depend on one guy, raise kids etc: and that it was as God intended and he quoted scripture about how it was good for a man to keep his wife a virgin etc: and that men should take care of their wives etc: and that women should always be true, obediant to her husband and he ought to treat her fairly, love her etc: and take care of the family in every way they needed. A man should always be there for his family, and he quoted the scripture of no greater love has a man than he lay down his life for his friends etc: and that God's one main commandment was to Love one another as He has loved us. And that meant to be fair, kind, understanding of others in their trials and misunderstandings etc: and that a man should try to be faithful to his wife, but if she is unhappy with the marriage he ought to let her go and not be bitter and revengeful. And he said he'd have a problem with that, he thought, and he wanted to be sure before he married that whomever she would be was ready to be his wife, ready to commit to him and him alone and that she would understand that he had to be free at times, to get away and do things he'd always done with music and his buddies. And that he'd always come home to his wife, his family and they'd always have the assurance he would be true and faithful and always love her and the children above all others. I recall saying that sounds like you think of it as kind of a double standard and he said, no, he'd be faithful if he had the right woman and she was true to him and loved him as he was. He didn't want her to go changing him or trying to make things her way because his life was different and he had to do certain things that she might not understand but it wouldn't be because he didn't love her. His wife would be a treasure that he would always want with him, she'd keep the home, with kids and aplace of peace and quiet for him because he needed that. She would have to understand that he had a need to have a place, a home to come to and not fuss and carry on about his being gone doing other things and he said whatever he was doing was for her, the kids and the people he cared about, she would have to understand that part of him and his life. He didn't want to be tied down and have to worry about coming home to a wife that was going to jump down his throat because he was late or he hadn't called or something.
And she wasn't to question him about what he might have been doing, some things he didn't feel a wife had to worry about, or needed to know-like business and etc: that was a man's world and he wouldn't want her involved in it. Especially not the Hollywood kind of life, that was a thing he never wanted his wife to be involved in-the party scene etc:. And unfortunately, she wanted to be and wanted to go out and be seen with him etc: and he wouldn't do it, though he did have a few friends he'd go have dinner with and etc: at his house. But those were quiet times, not the Hollywood glitz parties etc:. Not his thing-he wouldn't budge.

This is just alittle something l found.

I think he is completely contradicting himself in this quote....and he is silly for thinking Priscilla will stay home and take care of his home and child while he is out screwing around....plain and simple. He sets high standards for the woman he marries while he is out carousing like a dog in heat....

(and before anyone is rude back to me....it does not change the way I feel about the man....I worship the ground he walked on....now they are clouds because he is in heaven!)

[Getlo]

(and before anyone is rude back to me....it does not change the way I feel about the man....I worship the ground he walked on....now they are clouds because he is in heaven!)

I agree (well, aside from the worshipping the ground he walked on bit).

He was very sexist in his way (probably mostly due to upbringing) and his attitudes to women's equality left a lot to be desired - but, as ksimms2 said, it doesn't change my high opinion of the man.

[ksimms2]

I agree (well, aside from the worshipping the ground he walked on bit).

He was very sexist in his way (probably mostly due to upbringing) and his attitudes to women's equality left a lot to be desired - but, as ksimms2 said, it doesn't change my high opinion of the man.

Getlo, you have a really great sense of humor and you sure make me laugh at your comments....thank you!! (y)

[ReGina_89]

I said this to Jen before but i want to say it again...
in my opinion it would have never worked ESPICALLY in the late 60s early 70s because of Women's Lib. it had all the women in the world wondering why do they have to stay at home..why should they stay alone with the kids..and that was the time they were married in...
and its hard on a young woman to live in a glass house as Pris did all she could do which was to watch the exciting world from behind the glass feel the world but be unable to touch it and really experience it...she was a child that had a child....she never really grew emotionally...she was more like Lisa's sister...maybe thats why they has a tough relationship i dont know but maybe.

Myself......I also LOVE ELVIS very very much :hug:....I also worship the ground he walked on Ksimms2 :notworthy;)...however if i was in Priscilla's shoes (and thats a BIG IF) I myself would have gotten the hell out of there way before she did.. i mean if u cant love yourself you cant love others..and if u would live like that u dont like yourself much(n)

[Burning_Love]

I agree (well, aside from the worshipping the ground he walked on bit).

He was very sexist in his way (probably mostly due to upbringing) and his attitudes to women's equality left a lot to be desired - but, as ksimms2 said, it doesn't change my high opinion of the man.

Agreed !:clap::clap:(y)

[presley31]

I said this to Jen before but i want to say it again...
in my opinion it would have never worked ESPICALLY in the late 60s early 70s because of Women's Lib. it had all the women in the world wondering why do they have to stay at home..why should they stay alone with the kids..and that was the time they were married in...
and its hard on a young woman to live in a glass house as Pris did all she could do which was to watch the exciting world from behind the glass feel the world but be unable to touch it and really experience it...she was a child that had a child....she never really grew emotionally...she was more like Lisa's sister...maybe thats why they has a tough relationship i dont know but maybe.

Myself......I also LOVE ELVIS very very much :hug:....I also worship the ground he walked on Ksimms2 :notworthy;)...however if i was in Priscilla's shoes (and thats a BIG IF) I myself would have gotten the hell out of there way before she did.. i mean if u cant love yourself you cant love others..and if u would live like that u dont like yourself much(n)

well said regina(y)(y)

[Miss Clawdy]

I agree (well, aside from the worshipping the ground he walked on bit).

He was very sexist in his way (probably mostly due to upbringing) and his attitudes to women's equality left a lot to be desired - but, as ksimms2 said, it doesn't change my high opinion of the man.

Agreed....but I also worship the ground he walked on;):D

[The King's Queen]

Well, as I have said before, if you live with a man for YEARS, you should know what is expected of you. It shouldn't take an exchange of vows to make you aware of what you are signing on for...:doh:

Also, I'd like to point out some things in regard to sexist or southern views in traditional marriage. My Mother, who is a saint in my opinion, was raised to be submissive to her husband. My Father, was raised to believe that the man lived his life, and the woman was his home warmer, raising his kids and being content just to be his wife. I'm not saying that I totally agree with this, but it was considered the norm back in the day. I do not find it odd that Elvis had those views. It was pretty common place back then. And I also don't fall in line with the thinking that women who are in a relationship like that have no love for themselves, or any self-respect just because they stay in the marriage. My Mom stayed. It wasn't always easy, but she loves my Dad, and she was raised to "tough it out". It does not make her or any other woman any less of a woman for choosing to remain in the marriage...either because they want to, or because that is how they were raised.

And here we go again with the Priscilla thing... If she was aware of his views on those things, why did she marry him? In regard to their problems, I don't think it had much to do with his being a sexist, or her being locked away from the world. Fidelity can't be cited either, since both of them were unfaithful. It may have had more to do with the fact that once she attained the Presley name, new avenues were opened up for her, and she began to feel as if she wanted the name (for advantageous reasons), but she didn't want the man that went with it. Just my opinion....

(It's okay...you guys can jump on to me now...I think I'm ready....:supriced:)

[presley31]

I disagree but l will leave it at that.

[The King's Queen]

Jen...I really like you! You are one of few who can agree to disagree. That's why we are all different...because we all have difference of opinion.

Hugs to you anyway....!!!

[ReGina_89]

(It's okay...you guys can jump on to me now...I think I'm ready....:supriced:)

Thats VERY Funny :lmfao:...

but nop i disagree with you:!:

[presley31]

Jen...I really like you! You are one of few who can agree to disagree. That's why we are all different...because we all have difference of opinion.

Hugs to you anyway....!!!

Hugs back at ya:D

[maria1073]

this is elvis's kid desiree presley http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/maria1073/Copyofsd1.jpg

[presley31]

If you say so.....

[The King's Queen]

Thats VERY Funny :lmfao:...

but nop i disagree with you:!:

It's okay to disagree ReGina...(y) as long as we try to respect each other while we do. Guess I should send you a hug too...lol!

[maria1073]

If you say so.....

yes i do. have you read the book

[ksimms2]

Well, as I have said before, if you live with a man for YEARS, you should know what is expected of you. It shouldn't take an exchange of vows to make you aware of what you are signing on for...:doh:

Also, I'd like to point out some things in regard to sexist or southern views in traditional marriage. My Mother, who is a saint in my opinion, was raised to be submissive to her husband. My Father, was raised to believe that the man lived his life, and the woman was his home warmer, raising his kids and being content just to be his wife. I'm not saying that I totally agree with this, but it was considered the norm back in the day. I do not find it odd that Elvis had those views. It was pretty common place back then. And I also don't fall in line with the thinking that women who are in a relationship like that have no love for themselves, or any self-respect just because they stay in the marriage. My Mom stayed. It wasn't always easy, but she loves my Dad, and she was raised to "tough it out". It does not make her or any other woman any less of a woman for choosing to remain in the marriage...either because they want to, or because that is how they were raised.

And here we go again with the Priscilla thing... If she was aware of his views on those things, why did she marry him? In regard to their problems, I don't think it had much to do with his being a sexist, or her being locked away from the world. Fidelity can't be cited either, since both of them were unfaithful. It may have had more to do with the fact that once she attained the Presley name, new avenues were opened up for her, and she began to feel as if she wanted the name (for advantageous reasons), but she didn't want the man that went with it. Just my opinion....

(It's okay...you guys can jump on to me now...I think I'm ready....:supriced:)

Okay, let me see if I can say this the way I mean it - I don't think that the southern, traditional way of marriage is bad. But when you have a filandering husband out messing around all the time, then yes, I would have a problem with that. I don't think when you say fidelity can't be cited either because they both did it - they both did - but after how long did Priscilla? How long was she the adoring wife at home while he played around before she gave up and did it herself? See...that's the part I can understand on Priscilla's behalf.
I think Priscilla truly loved Elvis but after a while you can only take so much and then you have to draw the line somewhere - and I think that is what happened. I don't think she became the money hungry person you think she is until AFTER their marriage ended....otherwise why would she leave? Okay back to my original point - you say if she knew that is how he felt about marriage then why marry him? I don't think that was the problem. I think the problem came with all the womanizing he did. And let's face it - Elvis loved women - no if's/and's or but's about it.....the guy loved women - so realistically he should have never gotten married because he could not be true to one person. Does this make sense? I'm sorry if it doesn't. :blink:

[presley31]

yes maria been at qwentys site, before he banned everyone. If she was a true presley don't you think she would be noticed than. She fake as they come, l have desiree looks to, does that mean l'am elvis daugher too?? hahaha

[ksimms2]

this is elvis's kid desiree presley http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/maria1073/Copyofsd1.jpg

Maria, how old is this "other daughter"? This photo looks old.

[The King's Queen]

yes i do. have you read the book

Hey kids...I don't have a "dog in this fight"...but I just have to ask which book you are referring to? I stopped reading books about Elvis quite some time back, so maybe this is something I should consider now...unless it is one of those "trash" novels... Care to share, Maria...I am curious. :)

[ksimms2]

oh, and as for all the hugs out there - can I have one too??? :'(

:hug:

[The King's Queen]

yes maria been at qwentys site, before he banned everyone. If she was a true presley don't you think she would be noticed than. She fake as they come, l have desiree looks to, does that mean l'am elvis daugher too?? hahaha


Miss Jen...help an older chick out, will ya? What is this qwentys site that you keep referring to? Whoa...am I ever lost on this thread!!! :lmfao:

[presley31]

its called are "ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT ABOUT" its about elvis and this woman named lucy who had a serect love affair that lasted till his death and lucy had his kid who's name is desiree.

[presley31]

http://mynewwebsite.free.fr/
All about lucy and elvis and there big romance.

[The King's Queen]

oh, and as for all the hugs out there - can I have one too??? :'(

:hug:

Kelly, I've always got a hug for you! :hug: I don't really agree with you, because I lean more toward the opinion that Pris was NOT as innocent and naive as some believe her to be...but that's ok. Jen and I have disagreed many times before, but I keep preachin' it...THE KEY IS TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. (y)

[Burning_Love]

Ohhh i have that Book. Do not believe it in the slightest BUT i love the book because it's like a fantasy story and it give the 'Mysterious' side to Elvis.

[The King's Queen]

its called are "ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT ABOUT" its about elvis and this woman named lucy who had a serect love affair that lasted till his death and lucy had his kid who's name is desiree.


http://mynewwebsite.free.fr/
All about lucy and elvis and there big romance.

Oh ok...now I get it! (y) Thank you for clearing that up for me...:hug:

[maria1073]

well if you dont belive why did you do to qwerty site. desiree was born in 1958

[ksimms2]

Kelly, I've always got a hug for you! :hug: I don't really agree with you, because I lean more toward the opinion that Pris was NOT as innocent and naive as some believe her to be...but that's ok. Jen and I have disagreed many times before, but I keep preachin' it...THE KEY IS TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. (y)

Thanks, and I as well feel the same...it's cool to discuss stuff and if we all agreed on everything - well - where would the fun be? :lol:

[The King's Queen]

All I know for sure girls, is that Elvis had the opportunity to romance almost any woman he chose to. I don't find it at all unlikely that he may have had secret relationships with women. I think it could be very likely....:blink:

[presley31]

Ohhh i have that Book. Do not believe it in the slightest BUT i love the book because it's like a fantasy story and it give the 'Mysterious' side to Elvis.

good reading something like beauty and the breast :lol::lol:
sorry burning couldn't hold that back:blush:

[Burning_Love]

good reading something like beauty and the breast :lol::lol:
sorry burning couldn't hold that back:blush:


Lol :lmfao::lmfao:

[Miss Clawdy]

If it were up to me, I'd like to have more of Elvis kids around, maybe one of them or one of the grandchildren would have inherited his talent. But I think there are no others than Lisa, because who would keep it a secret that Elvis might be their father, and those who tried to prove it...I am not sure but don't they have an inforceable right to learn who their father is? Aren't they authorized by law to get a DNA test done?

[presley31]

agreed miss clawdy.

[ksimms2]

wow..just looked through that site....strange....interesting...but strange.

[ksimms2]

yes DNA testing is needed - but if Lisa does not want to submit her DNA then she doesn't have to....if I were Lisa and Pris - I'd be all for DNA testing to put the rumors to rest....so maybe they know it could be possible and that's why they refuse......

[ksimms2]

All I know for sure girls, is that Elvis had the opportunity to romance almost any woman he chose to. I don't find it at all unlikely that he may have had secret relationships with women. I think it could be very likely....:blink:

I agree with you....the man obviously got around....and another thing...I'm suprised the man didn't get any STD's (that we know about...) but he was no different than any other famous person who has women (or men for the women) at their feet - some choose to ignore it - while others indulge.....he chose to indulge.....again...and again...and again.....blah, blah, blah....why the heck do you think his wife wasn't allowed to go on tour with him?? DUH! ;)

[Getlo]

if I were Lisa and Pris - I'd be all for DNA testing to put the rumors to rest....so maybe they know it could be possible and that's why they refuse......

I think part of the reason why they wouldn't is that there's a chance that at least one of the claimants may be proven true.

Then, if that happened, you can imagine the lawsuits and claims to part of the Estate that would follow ...

[ksimms2]

I think part of the reason why they wouldn't is that there's a chance that at least one of the claimants may be proven true.

Then, if that happened, you can imagine the lawsuits and claims to part of the Estate that would follow ...

oh good lord yes, lawsuits would be everywhere - and those millions would have to be divided....well....don't know if they could actually get anything or not?

[presley31]

Desiree did get asked for a dna test but she told them NO, so what does that tell ya.

[Getlo]

Desiree did get asked for a dna test but she told them NO, so what does that tell ya.

When, where? Any links? .... etc

[ksimms2]

Yes I read on the site that she asked and LMP and co. wouldnt do it....??

(someone please tell me how to start a new topic on this site...I guess I just can't quite figure it out!)

[presley31]

just go to new topic and start a new thread

[presley31]

Yes I read on the site that she asked and LMP and co. wouldnt do it....??

(someone please tell me how to start a new topic on this site...I guess I just can't quite figure it out!)

kelly, that site is all lies, he bans people that don't believe his story about Lucy and desiree He barred jennnifer hodge( charlies wife) from speaking the turth one to many times.:doh:

[ksimms2]

I'm sorry Jenn, I cannot find "new topic" I must be totally blind....can you point me in the right direction?? Thanks!! I bought something today wanted to share.

[ksimms2]

kelly, that site is all lies, he bans people that don't believe his story about Lucy and desiree He barred jennnifer hodge( charlies wife) from speaking the turth one to many times.:doh:

oh? well that's not good.....didn't know he banned Jennifer Hodge. I have never read the book and really don't believe it one way or another.

[presley31]

go to the all elvis presley topic and look where its says new thread above the topics

[ksimms2]

Thanks - got it!! Just a book I bought today - was lucky to even see it.....loaded with photo's.

[marijaep]

Hi everyone.
Well, I think there are no other children although I would like to see more Elvis kids,hehe (especially males lol:P)
I think he was careful when it came to that, but I also agree with someone else discussing this topic who said that there sure were some 'careless' moments too...
Elvisjr or Desiree are just claiming that are his kids but there are no official DNA tests done and I personally don't believe in it. Elvisjr doesn't look like Elvis to me at all.
So, for now, Lisa-Marie is the only Elvis' child :D


Hugs to you all,
Marija

[cprimm]

http://www.preslaw.net/presley-v-hanks.html

From 1989:
Plaintiff, Deborah Delaine Presley, claiming to be the illegitimate daughter of Elvis, seeks her share of the Estate. The Court, after testimony from Priscilla et al., interprets the terms of his will as providing only for children born in wedlock.

Here's another lady claiming to be the daughter of Elvis. She filed affidavits from her mother, Barbara Jean Young, and from Gene Smith, purportedly Elvis Presley's first cousin. These affidavits, in general, establish the relationship between appellant's mother and Elvis Presley in support of appellant's claim that Mr. Presley was her father.

*Deborah Delaine Presley was married to Christian Brando, October 16, 2004, son of Marlon Brando and actress Anna Kashfi. He was convicted of the voluntary manslaughter of his half-sister Cheyenne's boyfriend on 16 May 1990 at Marlon Brando's residence on Mulholland Drive. He was released from prison in 1996. He was also involved in 2001 Bonnie Lee Bakley murder investigation when Robert Blake claimed that Christian Brando had been involved in the murder of Blake's 44-year-old wife.

On January 10, 2005, Christian Brando was charged with two counts of spousal abuse in relation to battery of his wife. Pleading guilty, he was sentenced to three years' probation and two months drug and alcohol treatment, and was ordered to complete a spousal abuse prevention program. The couple were divorced in June 2005.

In December 2005, Deborah Brando launched a suit in Los Angeles Superior Court seeking financial damages for multiple counts of violence and threats of violence and murder against her and her 13-year-old daughter. Deborah Brando claimed that Christian Brando repeatedly forced her into sex by threatening to smother her with a pillow or to cut her daughter "into a million pieces."


*That is, if you believe Wilkipedia.

I knew there was a lawsuit against the Presley estate by an illegitimate daughter and I knew she lost in court. I never knew any of the details. Wonder if she has those "Presley" genes?

[ksimms2]

Hi everyone.
Well, I think there are no other children although I would like to see more Elvis kids,hehe (especially males lol:P)
I think he was careful when it came to that, but I also agree with someone else discussing this topic who said that there sure were some 'careless' moments too...
Elvisjr or Desiree are just claiming that are his kids but there are no official DNA tests done and I personally don't believe in it. Elvisjr doesn't look like Elvis to me at all.
So, for now, Lisa-Marie is the only Elvis' child :D


Hugs to you all,
Marija

I have to agree with Marija here..until DNA proves otherwise...I guess we should just stick to LMP....no matter what we believe...until it's proven otherwise. :hmm:

[marijaep]

I have to agree with Marija here..until DNA proves otherwise...I guess we should just stick to LMP....no matter what we believe...until it's proven otherwise. :hmm:

Thank you. You got my point,
:hug:
Marija

[Dovey]

Like someone already posted, "Never say Never" I am sure that I do not know and never will but my dad was one who always told me never say never unless you are absolutely sure. Dovey;)

[Burning_Love]

Like someone already posted, "Never say Never" I am sure that I do not know and never will but my dad was one who always told me never say never unless you are absolutely sure. Dovey;)

Exactly Dovey (y):clap:

I think Desiree has got a slight (and i mean slight) look of Elvis, but is she were Elvis' child, wouldn't she look just a bit like Lisa when Lisa was little ??:hmm:

I'm not sure but Dovey said it "Never say Never" :king:

:hug:

[ksimms2]

Exactly Dovey (y):clap:

I think Desiree has got a slight (and i mean slight) look of Elvis, but is she were Elvis' child, wouldn't she look just a bit like Lisa when Lisa was little ??:hmm:

I'm not sure but Dovey said it "Never say Never" :king:

:hug:

no, she wouldn't look like Lisa because they have different moms...Desire's mom is french and dark coloring (hair, etc) while priscilla's features are lighter....yes Desire does resemble Elvis - but she resembles her mom too.

[presley31]

Simple DNA would solve that very quicky.

[Burning_Love]

no, she wouldn't look like Lisa because they have different moms...Desire's mom is french and dark coloring (hair, etc) while priscilla's features are lighter....yes Desire does resemble Elvis - but she resembles her mom too.

Yes i see what you mean (y) But i thought there would be some resemblence between desiree and Lisa. I mean Lisa has Elvis' strong features, wouldn't Desiree have some too ? This is all too confusing for me Lol :lol::lol:


Simple DNA would solve that very quicky.

Exactly !

[Lisarose]

I haven't read every post, so if I've repeated something someone else said, forgive me. This is a great post. I've always wondered whether of not there could be an Elvis child, I did read a copy of his will, or what was purported to be his will & he did make an allowance for his child or children. I would think that bit would allow for someone with a claim to pursue his rightful heritage. Personally, I don't believe he had other children, simply because of his kind nature towards family. If he thought he had a child out there, he would want to acknowledge that child.
But, I'm not naive enough to rule it out completely either.

[Burning_Love]

I found these, thought some might be interested :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOTpyn0V-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2AGLEhK1g

[presley31]

I seen those burning but thanks anyway, l want to see some kind of proof if so they did have a long love affair and desiree is his daughter?? where the proof is what l say!!!!

[Burning_Love]

Me Too Presley.. !!

[hounddog]

Of course Elvis having other children is a possiblity. DNA is the only true way of telling and so far none have been proven to be really his children.

[maria1073]

Desiree did get asked for a dna test but she told them NO, so what does that tell ya.

no she did not she has had a dna done but thay need lisa's nda and she whant give it

[presley31]

no she did not she has had a dna done but thay need lisa's nda and she whant give it

Show the proof maria is the only thing l'am going to say:hmm:

[maria1073]

Desiree did get asked for a dna test but she told them NO, so what does that tell ya.

show me the proof presle31 and that all i'm going to say:hmm:

[presley31]

show me the proof presle31 and that all i'm going to say:hmm:

your the one who thinks desiree is the daugher so you show the proof. I don't have to show nothing cause l don't believe the story!!

[KPM]

Most good lawyers would advise to never agree to any DNA testing. Allowing even one DNA test then opens the door to unending litigation for every person who might "think" they are Elvis's child. So the best defense is to not agree to any.

[ksimms2]

Most good lawyers would advise to never agree to any DNA testing. Allowing even one DNA test then opens the door to unending litigation for every person who might "think" they are Elvis's child. So the best defense is to not agree to any.

from a legal standpoint, I can see what you mean. Unfortunately, this does not put a stop to the rumors, only fuels them more I think. (n)

[maria1073]

your the one who thinks desiree is the daugher so you show the proof. I don't have to show nothing cause l don't believe the story!! i'm on about the dna you said that desiree had been asked to have a dna test and she had said no wher is you proof

[presley31]

you the one who making a big deal out of this DNA, so maybe you should do some more reseach and maybe you'll find your answers. I not showing you nothing cause time time again it been PROVEN DESIREE IS NOT ELVIS DAUGHTER!!!!!!!

[TCE]

I myself don't believe all stories told by woman claiming to have had sex with Elvis. I'm sure there are a lot saying it but maybe they wished they had. I wonder if Elvis had the time to sleep with all these woman! And like Elvis said in the interview where he wore the blue suit (I think, but I'm not sure), regarding the same question, he laught and said: if I had go to bed with all woman like said I would be dead. Strange how people want to get in the news. First they picture Elvis as a hamburger eating weirdoo and now they picture him as a sexmaniak. What's next I wonder. Sure he was a man of flesh and blood and will have had his weak moments, but I don't think that he slept with all wman that claim he did.


Christel (TCE)

[KPM]

from a legal standpoint, I can see what you mean. Unfortunately, this does not put a stop to the rumors, only fuels them more I think. (n)
IMO Truthfully rumors would happen even if every DNA test requested were agreed to and came back negative. Someone would say,
"They paid off the lab"
Rumors and innuendo are what the Elvis world has revolved around for years. IMO pick a topic and throw it out and you'll get a dozen rumors of the truth, and each as varied as the next.
As far as this topic and other kids I do not think its out of the realm of possiblity. Col. Parker drilled into Elvis in the 50s what fathering a child out of wedlock would do to him so I'm sure he was as careful as you can be-but lets face it accidents happen. So you can't say it isn't possible. But I would still recommend that they not allow any DNA testing if I was advising them.

[ksimms2]

IMO Truthfully rumors would happen even if every DNA test requested were agreed to and came back negative. Someone would say,
"They paid off the lab"
Rumors and innuendo are what the Elvis world has revolved around for years. IMO pick a topic and throw it out and you'll get a dozen rumors of the truth, and each as varied as the next.
As far as this topic and other kids I do not think its out of the realm of possiblity. Col. Parker drilled into Elvis in the 50s what fathering a child out of wedlock would do to him so I'm sure he was as careful as you can be-but lets face it accidents happen. So you can't say it isn't possible. But I would still recommend that they not allow any DNA testing if I was advising them.

Completely agree KPM....

[J.P]

He had/has other children besides Lisa. It's not a secrect really somehow it's been kept in silence. Dunno why tho.

[presley31]

He had/has other children besides Lisa. It's not a secrect really somehow it's been kept in silence. Dunno why tho.

How do you know this?????

[desiree]

He had/has other children besides Lisa. It's not a secrect really somehow it's been kept in silence. Dunno why tho.

J, be careful now. It's hard to prove something like that even when (or if )you're right. Take care!:hug:

[Donut]

Anyone here heard about this ?

http://www.preslaw.net/presley-v-hanks.html

[ksimms2]

from what I am reading there - it doesn't matter how many illegitimate children Elvis may have - and so far I'd about 5 have come out of the woodwork - 2 females and 3 males....or 2 males? Either way - if they were born out of wedlock - they are not beneficiary's of his estate......and I'd say there are good possibilities these other children very well may be his. "Elvis, Jr" he had his name changed of course - his mom was on Blue Hawaii and also Clambake with Elvis and had an affair.....Elvis was known to have affairs on pretty much every movie.....so I don't see how it's so far fetched that he couldn't have illegitimate children out there......just my opinion.

[Donut]

from what I am reading there - it doesn't matter how many illegitimate children Elvis may have - and so far I'd about 5 have come out of the woodwork - 2 females and 3 males....or 2 males? Either way - if they were born out of wedlock - they are not beneficiary's of his estate......and I'd say there are good possibilities these other children very well may be his.

I thought just the same after reading it, not all those you named but could be others...

[0349054]

Elvis has one kid. Lisa Marie.

All the rest are bogus.

If they are not, let them prove it.

As for this thing about out of wedlock - thats bs, if he has more kids they are entitled as per his wishes in his will.

This thread seriously has a lot of conspiracy theorists and bs's on it.

[meg]

Elvis has one kid. Lisa Marie.

All the rest are bogus.

If they are not, let them prove it.

As for this thing about out of wedlock - thats bs, if he has more kids they are entitled as per his wishes in his will.

This thread seriously has a lot of conspiracy theorists and bs's on it.


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[Diane]

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[Getlo]

All the rest are bogus.

So far, yes, it appears.

But I think logic dictates there has to be more out there; they probably won't come forward though.

[Diane]

This is almost as bad as "Is Elvis Still Alive"? :lol:

Diane

[presley31]

This is almost as bad as "Is Elvis Still Alive"? :lol:

Diane

You are right there diane:lol::lol:

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Without doubt the myth and legend of Elvis? libido has been exaggerated beyond all reason, I have no doubt that Elvis had more than his fair share of women, however I also think a man of Elvis? stature was well aware of the implications of having little Elvis? running all over the place! He would have used precautions to avoid this happening. Of course there is always going to be the odd hiccup, I very much doubt there are more than a couple of illegitimate offspring with the possibility of a claim.
There are too many wonabees out there trying to make a buck of the back of Elvis, if they were truly who they claim to be why on earth haven?t they been able to prove it? You could believe someone who didn?t want to be some 3rd rate star!

[KPM]

He had/has other children besides Lisa. It's not a secrect really somehow it's been kept in silence. Dunno why tho.
Where do you get this info?

[ksimms2]

guys...they cannot prove their paternity without DNA - Lisa Marie is only one who can provide DNA...and obviously she is not willing...so how the heck can they prove it??? I don't see why you guys find it so hard to believe? Elvis was no saint by any means...and seems to me he loved the ladies...and the proof is out there for all to see...look how many women he's romanced on his movie sets - not to mention all the groupies...NO BIRTH CONTROL IS 100% and it's stupid to even think so......

[Diane]

Also something we should consider is that these women would have had to get pregnant more than 30 years ago while Elvis was still healthy and could have come forth when he was still alive and taken him to court as another woman did. Why did they wait until after his death? Now that seems highly suspicious to me.(n)

Diane

[ksimms2]

Also something we should consider is that these women would have had to get pregnant more than 30 years ago while Elvis was still healthy and could have come forth when he was still alive and taken him to court as another woman did. Why did they wait until after his death? Now that seems highly suspicious to me.(n)

Diane

Diane, just a thought, but maybe they tried while he was still alive? And never got anywhere with it? Maybe his legal team squashed it right away...maybe they figured now that he died - may have better chance? I don't know - just speculation on my part of course.

[Diane]

Possibly you're right ksimms2 but I think it's more likely that they are trying to cash in.

Diane

[J.P]

To presley 31 and KPM (AND OTHERS), I spokeout what I know, how do I know it, it?s a question I don?t have to answer nicely expressed none of your business. I just shared my knowledge just like you did, whereas mine hasn?t been studied on the books or heard somewhere. For those who know a whole lotta things about Elvis here obviously don?t know enough! Idon't care what ya guys think or believe but when it comes to be a fact it should be known inside out by the one who's speaking otherwise it ain't worthy a knowledge.
It's a great deal of shame ya guys can't go and ask Elvis himself! well, I doubt he would of said any of it tho. He didn't talk much 'bout his private thoughts and business neither did he admit his mistakes to lightly.
And D aka desiree I know ya mean well but don't ya come and tell me what to do. Mind yer own business just like I care mine. hugs back.
Take care ev'ryone!

[desiree]

And D aka desiree I know ya mean well but don't ya come and tell me what to do. Mind yer own business just like I care mine. hugs back.
Take care ev'ryone!

Ok J will do. Don't you think by telling me to mind my own business you're doing exactly the same thing? :lmfao:

[KPM]

To presley 31 and KPM (AND OTHERS), I spokeout what I know, how do I know it, it’s a question I don’t have to answer nicely expressed none of your business. I just shared my knowledge just like you did, whereas mine hasn’t been studied on the books or heard somewhere. For those who know a whole lotta things about Elvis here obviously don’t know enough! Idon't care what ya guys think or believe but when it comes to be a fact it should be known inside out by the one who's speaking otherwise it ain't worthy a knowledge.
It's a great deal of shame ya guys can't go and ask Elvis himself! well, I doubt he would of said any of it tho. He didn't talk much 'bout his private thoughts and business neither did he admit his mistakes to lightly.
And D aka desiree I know ya mean well but don't ya come and tell me what to do. Mind yer own business just like I care mine. hugs back.
Take care ev'ryone!
Strange post-no one meant any harm you stated something as fact. I was just asking how you could say so -with 100% accuracy. If you do not want to answer thats okay but it does not prove anything. Sorry you got so bent out of shape. The question was not meant to do that.

[lawdy_missclawdy]

Just the fact that his url is "Is Elvis My Dad", and that he calls himself "Elvis Junior" seems as an attemt to make money, if you ask me.:blink:

I don't say that it's impossible that Elvis might have made another woman pregnant, but it can't be proven. In my eyes, anyone who comes forward saying "Hey, Elvis is my dad!" is jealous of the money and fame that Lisa have gotten by being Elvis' daugther. I don't believe them, until otherwise has been proven.

[presley31]

Just the fact that his url is "Is Elvis My Dad", and that he calls himself "Elvis Junior" seems as an attemt to make money, if you ask me.:blink:

I don't say that it's impossible that Elvis might have made another woman pregnant, but it can't be proven. In my eyes, anyone who comes forward saying "Hey, Elvis is my dad!" is jealous of the money and fame that Lisa have gotten by being Elvis' daugther. I don't believe them, until otherwise has been proven.

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[Merry]

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[LocalRaven]

Thought l make a thread cause some people think there more children out there, whats your thoughts about this????

Good question;)

[cameron]

I myself don't believe all stories told by woman claiming to have had sex with Elvis. I'm sure there are a lot saying it but maybe they wished they had. I wonder if Elvis had the time to sleep with all these woman! And like Elvis said in the interview where he wore the blue suit (I think, but I'm not sure), regarding the same question, he laught and said: if I had go to bed with all woman like said I would be dead. Strange how people want to get in the news. First they picture Elvis as a hamburger eating weirdoo and now they picture him as a sexmaniak. What's next I wonder. Sure he was a man of flesh and blood and will have had his weak moments, but I don't think that he slept with all wman that claim he did.
Christel (TCE)

On this I agree . He would have been a very busy man.;)

[Lion]

It is not unbelievable that Elvis might have other children than Lisa. Especially from his younger days (1954-55, when he toured a lot. He is said to have more than one girl in every single town he went to... I bet he tried to be "careful", but who knows...

I also think many WANT to be his children, so most of them claiming to be are of course just wishes.

The ones who could be would have difficulties to proof this of course. The only solution for that is a DNA-test, and Lisa Marie would have to say yes for that. I guess that would be at least a parttime job for her had she agreed to that all the time. So the question will be unaswered to all of us I guess!

[maria1073]

thats is but desiree did not want his money she just wanted her name presley

[Miss Clawdy]

Has anyone ever heard of Vince Vernon Vardell?
It is said Elvis met his mother in Germany during his time in the army.

[geordie]

i am actually one of the forgotton presley children, elvis made a secret trip to north east england in 1967 while filming double trouble,this i know for a fact because john lennon was there at the time, and he told me this story while having a drinking session on brown ale, while watching several whippetts racing
p.s elvis lost 15 shilling during the whippet racing,this is the REAL REASON why elvis never returned to the u.k.
p.s no whippets were hurt during this incident

[Diane]

LOL Geordie, thanks for lightening this thread up. :lol:(y)


Diane

[cameron]

guys.....don't see why you guys find it so hard to believe? Elvis was no saint by any means...and seems to me he loved the ladies...and the proof is out there for all to see...look how many women he's romanced on his movie sets - not to mention all the groupies...NO BIRTH CONTROL IS 100% and it's stupid to even think so......

I don't find it hard to believe that Elvis could have had more children. I just find it very unlikely .

I just read an interview from someone the other day about this.
Can't remember who now .:doh:
In the '50's and early '60's ....people didn't always have "intercourse."
They just indulged in "heavy petting."
That's what this guy said they did. They never went with the girls alone, but three of the guys were always together. Parker warned Elvis he'd better not get anyone pregnant or it would ruin his career .
Seems kinda silly to us today ..but there was no birth control then except for condoms....Maybe someone knows the inteview I'm talking about ??

[Latte]

but we all learned in school that "pulling out" as they say is not fool proof.....so if that was his intentions...that was sort of silly cause it don't always work....ask the high school girls who were promised by their boyfriends that "if we do it this way you won't get pregnant"....yea right....famous last words! lol....:blink:


lol!!! Yeah, i agree