Lucille Ball Confronted Elvis About His Drug Use.

[presley31]

Lucille Ball Confronted Elvis About His Drug Use.


EIN found this message on the alt.elvis.king board interesting:

lolajo: Marty, In Sonny West's new book, he says that even Lucille Ball confronted Elvis about his drug use and she was summarily shown the door. Were you there when this happened? If so, how did this go down?

Marty (Lacker): No, I wasn't there but that's the way she was. She was pretty brassy and said what was on her mind, she felt she was around showbiz long enough to allow her to do that.

It doesn't surprise me that she was shown the door but I'm sure it was done in a nice way. The door that is. Elvis didn't care who you were if you confronted him that way, he would be nice to your face but he'd tell one of us to get rid of the person. Sometimes when someone did something like that in a challenging way he would tell them to mind their own business and get the hell out.

That's why it amuses us when some uninformed, unrealistic fan makes a negative comment about us or how we handled things, as in the case of Red and Sonny hitting that guy in Tahoe, you all don't really know everything that went on and what was done to protect Elvis and most time at his bidding.

Found it on the elvis gold collectors

[Merry]

Lucille Ball Confronted Elvis About His Drug Use.


EIN found this message on the alt.elvis.king board interesting:

lolajo: Marty, In Sonny West's new book, he says that even Lucille Ball confronted Elvis about his drug use and she was summarily shown the door. Were you there when this happened? If so, how did this go down?

Marty (Lacker): No, I wasn't there but that's the way she was. She was pretty brassy and said what was on her mind, she felt she was around showbiz long enough to allow her to do that.

It doesn't surprise me that she was shown the door but I'm sure it was done in a nice way. The door that is. Elvis didn't care who you were if you confronted him that way, he would be nice to your face but he'd tell one of us to get rid of the person. Sometimes when someone did something like that in a challenging way he would tell them to mind their own business and get the hell out.

**That's why it amuses us when some uninformed, unrealistic fan makes a negative comment about us or how we handled things, as in the case of Red and Sonny hitting that guy in Tahoe, you all don't really know everything that went on and what was done to protect Elvis and most time at his bidding.

Found it on the elvis gold collectors



Oh Jen,

With respect hon, please forgive me, but people shouldn't be quoting Lacker.

Hugs
Jess

P.S. At least he admitted not being there (for once).

**Lacker's love for the fans! (speaks for itself, telling, huh)

[Tommy]

Thank you for the information, wish he would have listened to somebody. I am listening to his music right now, what a great voice he had, I miss all the songs he had left to sing.

[presley31]

Oh Jen,

With respect hon, please forgive me, but people shouldn't be quoting Lacker.

Hugs
Jess

P.S. At least he admitted not being there (for once).

**Lacker's love for the fans! (speaks for itself, telling, huh)


I agree Jess....

Tommy l wish the same thing, if only he was here right now still singing those beauiful songs:'(

[JDD]

Wouldn't surprise me. If anyone has ever seen any of the interviews Lucy did with Cavett and some others in the 70s she wasn't exactly shy about speaking her mind and wasn't afraid to say what (or who) she did and didn't like .

[Merry]

I agree Jess....

Tommy l wish the same thing, if only he was here right now still singing those beauiful songs:'(


Dearest Jen and Tommy,

I was lunging my horse to Elvis' music the other day, my little over excited ex stallion, started snorting and settling down much faster than normal, lol, well I was kinda dancing in the middle too, must have been a straaannge sight! lol :clap: (and he still understood what I meant, lol).

I agree.

:D
Jess


P.S. Hugs Jen


Polk Salad Annie.....hehe.......

[Merry]

Wouldn't surprise me. If anyone has ever seen any of the interviews Lucy did with Cavett and some others in the 70s she wasn't exactly shy about speaking her mind and wasn't afraid to say what (or who) she did and didn't like .


Thanks JDD, sounds like Lucy may have had an opinion on everything? :supriced:

A friend of Elvis' when I spoke to her about this (when posted on another site) mentioned Lucy had her own challenges with her own husband's addictions, so why throw stones?

It was the times, the industry, still is. It is tough and sadly, common, this is why I don't understand why people don't give some slack. It appears that instead of people going into rehab of late, some, sadly, are going to jail!

:'(
Jess

[presley31]

you crack me up jess hehehehehe

[thehillbillycat]

I have heard this story before. I believe one of her kids told that in a interview one time that Lucy told to them.

[IM4Elvis]

Thanks very much for that bit of information. I never knew that Lucy had actually confronted Elvis in that way.

IM

[JDD]

Thanks JDD, sounds like Lucy may have had an opinion on everything? :supriced:

A friend of Elvis' when I spoke to her about this (when posted on another site) mentioned Lucy had her own challenges with her own husband's addictions, so why throw stones?

Jess



Perhaps because she watched Desi have troubles that lead to problems and aggravation and Divorce is why she spoke up (if she spoke up) to Elvis.

[srj1967]

Lucy had her own challenges with her own husband's addictions, so why throw stones?

Confronting Elvis, if indeed this story is true - which I kind of doubt, to be honest - is not "throwing stones". Rather, she would've been trying to help Elvis with his situation.


It was the times, the industry, still is. It is tough and sadly, common, this is why I don't understand why people don't give some slack.

The times? The industry? Excuses. People make the choice to ingest drugs or do other things and for them - or any of us - to blame the industry etc is a cop out. Show business is tough, sure, but so is real life. As for "giving some slack" ... it's not about that. If we're to discuss aspects of Elvis' life then, sadly, his drug use and abuse was part of the Presley story and should be discussed rationally along with his music, movies etc.

As for today's stars, eg Lindsay Lohan. Such a talented girl, wasting her life right now. She clearly needs help, and her mother must take a lot of the blame for her situation. But ultimately, she is doing it all to herself, no one is forcing her.

Same with Elvis.

And on the subject of help, I've always fantasised that Elvis (around his fortieth birthday or thereabouts) could've called his good friend Frank Sinatra to get help with his demons. Frank would've known what to do, and given Elvis the help he needed.

[Merry]

Confronting Elvis, if indeed this story is true - which I kind of doubt, to be honest - is not "throwing stones". Rather, she would've been trying to help Elvis with his situation.



The times? The industry? Excuses. People make the choice to ingest drugs or do other things and for them - or any of us - to blame the industry etc is a cop out. Show business is tough, sure, but so is real life. As for "giving some slack" ... it's not about that. If we're to discuss aspects of Elvis' life then, sadly, his drug use and abuse was part of the Presley story and should be discussed rationally along with his music, movies etc.

As for today's stars, eg Lindsay Lohan. Such a talented girl, wasting her life right now. She clearly needs help, and her mother must take a lot of the blame for her situation. But ultimately, she is doing it all to herself, no one is forcing her.

Same with Elvis.

And on the subject of help, I've always fantasised that Elvis (around his fortieth birthday or thereabouts) could've called his good friend Frank Sinatra to get help with his demons. Frank would've known what to do, and given Elvis the help he needed.



Hey, I'll listen to anyone with respect, who has "been there, done that", and are speaking from wisdom, care, and experience.

If the person hasn't "been there and done that", well, their words are just words, and their opinion.

[srj1967]

Hey, I'll listen to anyone with respect, who has "been there, done that", and are speaking from wisdom, care, and experience.

If the person hasn't "been there and done that", well, their words are just words, and their opinion.

If you're referring to me, then yes ... been there, done that. It's all about choices in life.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Hey, I'll listen to anyone with respect, who has "been there, done that", and are speaking from wisdom, care, and experience.

If the person hasn't "been there and done that", well, their words are just words, and their opinion.

Jess with all due respect the above statement does not ring true, how do you know of other peoples life experiences? You have already judged me in the past and have no idea of what I have had to deal with....

In my teens and up until my mid twenties I smoked pot/weed, I also took class A substances! I could quite easily have taken the wrong path. I met my wife, got married had kids and decided that lifestyle was not acceptable around the people I love. At some point in your life you have to take stock, you are accountable for you own life.

I respect and love Elvis but some of his lifestyle choices lead him to a premature death! I am not going to get into a round of having to defend myself because of Elvis' drug habit either. Elvis did what he did for whatever reasons (and we don't know why) ultimately Yes Elvis may of had conditions that required medication, but it is FACT that he over prescribed.

[Merry]

Jess with all due respect the above statement does not ring true, how do you know of other peoples life experiences?


My point exactly!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Merry]

Jess with all due respect the above statement does not ring true, how do you know of other peoples life experiences? You have already judged me in the past and have no idea of what I have had to deal with....

In my teens and up until my mid twenties I smoked pot/weed, I also took class A substances! I could quite easily have taken the wrong path. I met my wife, got married had kids and decided that lifestyle was not acceptable around the people I love. At some point in your life you have to take stock, you are accountable for you own life.

I respect and love Elvis but some of his lifestyle choices lead him to a premature death! I am not going to get into a round of having to defend myself because of Elvis' drug habit either. Elvis did what he did for whatever reasons (and we don't know why) ultimately Yes Elvis may of had conditions that required medication, but it is FACT that he over prescribed.


You know what, JJ?

I have more respect for someone, who has fought through something like you have, who has lived his life, made wise decisions, gone with his heart and made the right choices, than you could ever imagine.

I'm thrilled that you have found happiness, and have a lovely family.

We all have our stories, and I haven't judged you, (I apologise if I gave you that impression) as I've said before, my words sometimes let me down, (Yes I'm guilty of sarcasm, which was my post to SRJ, heh, I'm "human", (joke, you can laugh now, hehe) )


:D

Jess

[KPM]

I have battled demons all my life. Its a day in day out fight. There are times when I was young I thought I'd never live to the age I am now, 52. Every person is different- our lives are just that OUR LIVES. Only we have walked that one path step for step- we handle things how we handle them (right or wrong) Why anyone handles problems the way they do is a big question? IMO If anyone hear can give a definitive answer to that question they willl end up in the Psychiatric Hall of Fame.
Its always much easier to look at someone elses life and "figure out" what they should do, or should have done.
We all have our little "Piccadilloes" some small, not important, - and some which affect our lives greatly. A lot of people overcome these things easily, and others don't. So I don't like to judge others to harshly because I know my problems and how they can knot me up inside. IMO Its hard enough to untangle your own knots, let alone understand someones elses.

[Merry]

I have battled demons all my life. Its a day in day out fight. There are times when I was young I thought I'd never live to the age I am now, 52. Every person is different- our lives are just that OUR LIVES. Only we have walked that one path step for step- we handle things how we handle them (right or wrong) Why anyone handles problems the way they do is a big question? IMO If anyone hear can give a definitive answer to that question they willl end up in the Psychiatric Hall of Fame.
Its always much easier to look at someone elses life and "figure out" what they should do, or should have done.
We all have our little "Piccadilloes" some small, not important, - and some which affect our lives greatly. A lot of people overcome these things easily, and others don't. So I don't like to judge others to harshly because I know my problems and how they can knot me up inside. IMO Its hard enough to untangle your own knots, let alone understand someones elses.



You are a wise man, KPM, and I am so pleased, that you are here.

Please take care,
Jess

[Diane]

KPM for a person who has had problems to battle, you must have done a great job of it. You have one of the clearest and most fair minds on this site and I always enjoy reading your posts........Thank you,

Diane