Is ELVIS ON TOUR gonna ever be released on dvd?

[zeus29]

HI GANG,
Why to this very day has ELVIS ON TOUR,never been officially released on dvd?
Instead we get TTWII released with footage we already have :doh:

zeus

[EP75]

It's coming eventually.

[MEMPHISKING77]

I HOPE SO I'M WEARING MY VHS VERSION OUT:'( :king:

[EP75]

I have a feeling that Time-Warner is waiting until the right moment to release a whole new documentary using the outtakes to create a new film. Maybe for theatrical release.

[jak]

I have a feeling that Time-Warner is waiting until the right moment to release a whole new documentary using the outtakes to create a new film. Maybe for theatrical release.

Dont hold your breath waiting for a theatrical release of EOT.That would be a bit of a stretch.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

I have a feeling that Time-Warner is waiting until the right moment to release a whole new documentary using the outtakes to create a new film. Maybe for theatrical release.

If they do a theaterical release it will only be in big cities only or in very few selected cities. They won't release it worldwide. That will cost too much money to do that.

[goodelvisgirl]

they released thats the way it is so they have to release on tour it is just as good as elvis ttwii maybee as an anniversery edition

[EP75]

There won't be a theatrical release of the original film Elvis On Tour. But there could be a new documentary in the near future if the right heads get involved. there is a potential modern day documentary classic that could be way better than the original film with what was left on the cutting floor. I can't see Time-Warner holding this footage too much longer if they have no intentions of putting it to good use and making a profit off of it. Either they will put together a new project possibly theatrical first then DVD or sell it. And quite possibly Bob Sillerman would want to buy it knowing what a jackpot it could be financially.

Make no mistake. Sillerman wants the music catalog badly. And I would almost bet that the outtakes of EP's movies and concert films are on his list of Must Haves also.(y)

[ajr]

There won't be a theatrical release of the original film Elvis On Tour. But there could be a new documentary in the near future if the right heads get involved. there is a potential modern day documentary classic that could be way better than the original film with what was left on the cutting floor. I can't see Time-Warner holding this footage too much longer if they have no intentions of putting it to good use and making a profit off of it. Either they will put together a new project possibly theatrical first then DVD or sell it. And quite possibly Bob Sillerman would want to buy it knowing what a jackpot it could be financially.

Make no mistake. Sillerman wants the music catalog badly. And I would almost bet that the outtakes of EP's movies and concert films are on his list of Must Haves also.(y)

Is it a "no-no" to ask just what you do & why you seem to have so much information on what Sillerman might do??

Well ,someone needs to ask.....;)

[EP75]

Is it a "no-no" to ask just what you do & why you seem to have so much information on what Sillerman might do??

Well ,someone needs to ask.....;)

Sorry. I have no connections to Bob Sillerman or EPE or Time-Warner. I am however known as an Anti-EPE due to the poor marketing and debackle of a job that they do at introducing EP to a new audience and keeping him in the spotlight. I do see changes coming in that department though and it all starts with Mr Sillerman. I get my information basically by paying attention at what is said by the ones in the know and by reading between the lines. I consider it a gift. LOL

[King_Creole]

Sorry. I have no connections to Bob Sillerman or EPE or Time-Warner. I am however known as an Anti-EPE due to the poor marketing and debackle of a job that they do at introducing EP to a new audience and keeping him in the spotlight. I do see changes coming in that department though and it all starts with Mr Sillerman. I get my information basically by paying attention at what is said by the ones in the know and by reading between the lines. I consider it a gift. LOL

And just who is it that your paying attention to who is in the know Jay ?

And what do you consider to be a gift, that your a whining, backpeddling, manipulating maggott who craves attention and acts like the internet ***** that noone even listens to except yourself ???

[EP75]

And just who is it that your paying attention to who is in the know Jay ?

And what do you consider to be a gift, that your a whining, backpeddling, manipulating maggott who craves attention and acts like the internet ***** that noone even listens to except yourself ???

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[srj1967]

And just who is it that your paying attention to who is in the know Jay ?

And what do you consider to be a gift, that your a whining, backpeddling, manipulating maggott who craves attention and acts like the internet ***** that noone even listens to except yourself ???


Mee-ooow, biy-aatch!

I don't think EOT will ever be released theatrically. EPE etc lost too much money with the release of TTWII ...
I think an entirely new documentary based on the footage would be fantastic. (y)

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

It's hard to say when it will be released, one thing is for sure EPE would have released it by now if it had EOT in its possession!

Time Warner just don't seem to have the inclination to get this programme off the ground. Perhaps they don't see a return on investment that would give any urgency to this project! Sometimes it's en ought to base your potential audience on the hard core fans but a good old fashioned INTERNET petition gives them an idea of how many fans would buy it?

[ajr]

Sorry. I have no connections to Bob Sillerman or EPE or Time-Warner. I am however known as an Anti-EPE due to the poor marketing and debackle of a job that they do at introducing EP to a new audience and keeping him in the spotlight. I do see changes coming in that department though and it all starts with Mr Sillerman. I get my information basically by paying attention at what is said by the ones in the know and by reading between the lines. I consider it a gift. LOL

Sorry I asked the question.....:'( Didn't realize some would behave badly & call you names.I'll ask you any further questions personally & privately.

[thehillbillycat]

There won't be a theatrical release of the original film Elvis On Tour. But there could be a new documentary in the near future if the right heads get involved. there is a potential modern day documentary classic that could be way better than the original film with what was left on the cutting floor. I can't see Time-Warner holding this footage too much longer if they have no intentions of putting it to good use and making a profit off of it. Either they will put together a new project possibly theatrical first then DVD or sell it. And quite possibly Bob Sillerman would want to buy it knowing what a jackpot it could be financially.

Make no mistake. Sillerman wants the music catalog badly. And I would almost bet that the outtakes of EP's movies and concert films are on his list of Must Haves also.(y)


Here we go again, I will say it again. EPE and Bob Sillerman has nothing to do with the release of Elvis movies at all. The movies are owned by the companies would put them out (Ex: Elvis On Tour is owned by MGM/Warner). It is up to the companies who made the movies to release outtakes or not. Most of the movies from Love Me Tender to Change of Habit might not have outtakes anymore since it was a custom to destory unused footage to saved space. As for TTWII and EOT the outtakes exist but alot of them are badly damage and alot of the EOT outtakes from I gather has Vinegar Syndrome. A copy of the film had to be made in order to have it saved from the effects of Vinegar Syndrome.

srj1967 - It was MGM/Warner who lost money on TTWII SE and not EPE. The reason why MGM lost money was because they showed it on TCM before it was release on DVD. That is why it didn't do so well. People recorded it either on VHS or DVD, so they had it and didn't want to pay money to get it.

If their is a chance for EOT to be release in the theaters which I will say it won't be. The movie will have to make money for releasing the film and finding the outtakes. It cost money to do that and if they know if they can cover their losses then they will do it but I doubt it will be release in theaters.

[EP75]

Correct that EPE and FXS do not own any movie footage. However that does not mean that FXS doesn't want to be in charge of it. From what he has said publicly in the past, I gather that he does want both the muisc rights and the movie rights. That being said, it would be very difficult for him to obtain rights and unseen footage without buying up Time-Warner to get them and that would mean owning a lot of other films that are of no financial use.

The music catalog is something he wants the most. He has called Parker's negotiations of the contract a big mistake on his part. There's no doubt in my mind that FXS will eventually approach RCA and SONY BMG for the rights to EP's music catalog in the near future. This could already be in the process and RCA is throwing out these worthless compilations to make a quick profit before possibly losing the rights. Not saying that this is the case. But think about it and look at how cheaply RCA has been marketing EP ever since the CKX takeover which came AFTER the success of 30 Number One Hits and Second To None. This is why I say read between the lines.

[srj1967]

srj1967 - It was MGM/Warner who lost money on TTWII SE and not EPE.

Are you suggesting that EPE had nothing whatsoever to do with the release of TTWII etc??

[jak]

Are you suggesting that EPE had nothing whatsoever to do with the release of TTWII etc??

That is correct.EPE doesnt own one second of that footage or any of Elvis' films.They own the 68 special,Aloha and the CBS special.All of Elvis' film work belongs to the studio.
Jak

[jak]

There is zero chance the music catalog is going to change hands.Just no way.They keep putting out those compliations because people keep buying them.Actually it's what the general public and casual fans prefer.
Jak

[KPM]

EPE may get some consulting fees, or have a promotion side deal to help promote or "officially sanction" Elvis movie releases but they do not own any of the films. They have virtually no say so on any matter concerning releases or restoring films for special editions etc. The studios who produced the film own them. I'm sure EPE would love to see a EOT Special Edition released and restored with unreleased footage, its free promotion for Elvis which benefits the estate.
Its such a shame that TTWII SE just did not have better sales. But other than the Turner Classic Movie channel promotion for a couple months it got no advertising to help people even know it was out.
You can have the best new product in the world but if most people don't know about it-sales suffer. We fans were aware it was coming out, but the casual fan who had no clue about it. The general public probably doesn't realise even now that its out and 75% different than the original-if they are even aware of the original.

[Joe Car]

EPE may get some consulting fees, or have a promotion side deal to help promote or "officially sanction" Elvis movie releases but they do not own any of the films. They have virtually no say so on any matter concerning releases or restoring films for special editions etc. The studios who produced the film own them. I'm sure EPE would love to see a EOT Special Edition released and restored with unreleased footage, its free promotion for Elvis which benefits the estate.
Its such a shame that TTWII SE just did not have better sales. But other than the Turner Classic Movie channel promotion for a couple months it got no advertising to help people even know it was out.
You can have the best new product in the world but if most people don't know about it-sales suffer. We fans were aware it was coming out, but the casual fan who had no clue about it. The general public probably doesn't realise even now that its out and 75% different than the original-if they are even aware of the original.

TTWII SE was a failure for a couple of reasons. First of all, it aired just days before it's release, (I taped it myself) second of all, DVD's weren't popular in 2001 as they are today. Also with people on youtube seeing so many great clips from this movie, it can only help sales. With the proper promotion, it as will EOT, sell huge!

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Personally I think EOT would sell better than TTWII... Especially if they made a 3 disk set like the did with the 68 Special.

I would love to see each show they taped, the footage is out there :'(

[EP75]

There is zero chance the music catalog is going to change hands.Just no way.They keep putting out those compliations because people keep buying them.Actually it's what the general public and casual fans prefer.
Jak


Jak, my friend Lakeisha lives in Memphis and she sent me an email the other day saying that a guy who knows Justin Timberlake personally said that Timberlake wants to own the EP catalog and has the money to pursue it. Timberlake is from Memphis and is a well know EP fan. Even has sung a couple EP songs on his popular tour this year. So it does make sense in why he would want to purchase it. Also Timberlake is connected to RCA Records through his label Jive which is a branch of RCA. So he might have an inside chance at this happening. However I think Sillerman will end up owning the rights before Timberlake unless they go as partners to up the ante and make RCA a deal that can't refuse.

Don't be surprised if the EP catalog ends up being sold at the right price. If Sillerman really wants it (and I am quite sure he does) then he can get it. He's a billionaire and has the money to make an offer that RCA hasn't been approached with yet. It is also possible that Bob Sillerman works a deal with RCA to get 50% share of the music rights. If that happens, EP's yealry earnings will grow much higher due to the music rights and the merchandise sales combined. Something that is not the case today.

[thehillbillycat]

Are you suggesting that EPE had nothing whatsoever to do with the release of TTWII etc??


Correct. 100% correct. EPE has nothing to do with the release of any of his movies what so ever. EPE owns the 68 Special, Aloha From Hawaii, and Elvis In Concert. The 33 movies are owned by the companies who filmed them. Fox owns 3 films, Paramount owns 9 movies, Universal owns one, MGM/Warner Brothers/United Artists owns 21 movies. Counts for 33 films.

Please read this from EPE/Elvis.com which I posted on here just in case you didn't read it. I have highlight the important parts of this:

Will there ever be a video/DVD release of out-takes from Elvis' movies?

We don't know. We certainly hope so. But, ultimately, it's not up to Graceland/EPE.

We do not own Elvis' movies and do not decide what is released from them. The various movie companies do. We have always liked the idea of a collection of Elvis movie out-takes being released or a collection of his best musical performances in movies. Whichever movie company or companies wanted to do something like that with their Elvis footage would need our approval to do a new project beyond the parameters of their original contract with Elvis. They would get our full cooperation and we have certainly made the suggestion when we've had the opportunity. It would be wonderful for the fans and wonderful new attention for Elvis' film career. However, while Elvis is our number one priority and he is his fans' number one priority, that's not necessarily the case with the film companies. They have hundreds of different films in their catalogs to deal with.

The out-take footage you hope to see might not even exist. Years ago, before Hollywood became as archival and preservation-oriented as it is now, it was common for footage left over after a film's final edit to be thrown away. Part of the reason was the high cost of film storage space. To do the research and digging to find out what Elvis movie out-takes might exist from decades ago would require a huge commitment of time, effort and financing. The film companies would have to be confident that they could recoup their investment through sales. They would most likely feel that a film like this would be of interest mostly to serious Elvis fans and not mass amounts of the general public. Also, there's the possibility that all the time, effort and financing to do the research would be spent only to find that there was little or no existing footage to work with. Of course, there are many other reasons that the film companies do or don't do something. This is just our effort to offer some insight into some of them. Also to help clarify that Graceland/EPE is not the reason this material, if it exists, isn't in release.


So it is not up to EPE. They did say that they like the idea of the outtakes being release but they also say it is not up to them but the companies who owns them. As for the line "Years ago, before Hollywood became as archival and preservation-oriented as it is now, it was common for footage left over after a film's final edit to be thrown away. Part of the reason was the high cost of film storage space", that goes really for the movies Love Me Tender to Change of Habit. The documentaries That's The Way It Is and Elvis On Tour does exist because we have some of them in our collection. But as EPE said, MGM would have to be confident that they could recoup their investment through sales. That means not just from Elvis fans either that means the general public.

Hopes that clear that fact for you.