Elvis and religion?

[Wild_In_The_Country]

I?m sure we can safely say he was a Christian, however I was wondering what denomination was he?
Just wondered as to his opinions on other Christian denominations and other religions of anyone may know them,.

[Tony Trout]

This is a loaded question and one that I struggled with an answer for without sounding "preachy".....

Being a Christian (at least to me) is being Christ-like and walking in the ways that God would have us walk and being like Jesus (I'm not saying that Elvis was God...please do not think that---because he wasn't God) Elvis was brought up in the Assembly of God denomination, which is associated with the Pentecostal movement of the early1900s. Elvis also studied various other religions later in life, especially after Larry Geller came on the scene in 1964....asking what Elvis's religious beliefs were is such a complicated question that one may never truly know the answer because he was exposed to so many different teachings (especially after Larry Geller came around) and some of those teachings would absolutely make your head spin around like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist"......

I have no way of knowing if Elvis truly accepted Christ in his heart as his Savior...I'd like to think that (as has always been told by one of the Stanley "brats") of the morning or night before Elvis died that Elvis repented and asked God for forgiveness for the wrong things that he had done in his life....


It's really hard to say what Elvis's true religious beliefs were or where his relationship with Christ stood...we'll never know until we meet him after this life is over with.....I'm not saying that I agree with what the above article says about Elvis's religious beliefs but.....


(I deleted the article that I had linked in this post)

[KPM]

Nobodys perfect, thats what a Pentacostle preacher told me 33 years ago. When I was "saved" I expected life to suddenly be easy and all the answers would fall into place. The "elders" in the church I went to had told me that towalk with God was peace of mind.
But after about a year I thought life is the same in a lot of ways. I still had problems and still made wrong choices at times. When I prayed its just not always answered the way you want. Tough times still come. I finally went to the preacher and told him how I felt- he told me growing in Jesus was a life long thing, things do not always get better when you pray because your faith is there- but weak at times, that you should strive to do the best you can and expect to fail at times, expect to make wrong choices when you relied on your self. He told me the elders were 35 and 40 years down the road from the moment they had been saved and had grown. He told me we're not carbon copies of each other and neither was how you grew as a christian. I was a babe and needed milk before I needed meat, and some could be weaned quicker than others.
Finally he said "all fall short and nobodys perfect, keep trying and asking for forgiveness when you fail"

I recognize the text thats quoted that about Elvis and his life, as coming from a very conservative christian site. I ran accross it a few years ago-pretty judgemental and harsh. Judge not lest ye be judged.

Heres a different take on this subject

Billy Graham said a few years after Elvis died he expected to see him in heaven. Rex Humbard who visited Elvis in Vegas and prayed with him not to long beore he died said he had no doubt Elvis was a saved person. Johnny Cash said Elvis was a saved Christian. Of course these are all their opinions. But again the only human with that definitive answer is Elvis whos not here. God knows the answer but thats his business and probably hes not going to get into the habit of telling anyone at this late date.

[KPM]

There is a book I remembered (after my post) thats in my collection which came out in 1979 by a Christian author called "Even Elvis" the authors name is Mary Ann Thornton.
I don't know if you can find it anywhere now, but it suppose to be about her contacts with Elvis in the last 4 years of his life and how she felt led by God to get in touch with him. She claims that in prayer God told her to go to Elvis and tell him God was calling him to preach. She supposedly had a few meetings with him and letters etc...God also supposedly told her Elvis had a place in heaven. The book was put out by New Leaf Press.

[Elvis_Priestly]

I don't think Elvis had a denomination, it would have been hard for him to belong to any church or ecclessial community, where could he have worshipped?
I think certainly he was Christian and I agree with KPM's insight that being a Christian is always about being a pilgrim, as St Augustine put it "Our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee oh God."
I think the available evidence points to the fact that Elvis was interested in many Christian denominations - even Catholicism. For him this wasn't so good, for his fans I think it is. I like looking at photos of the meditation gardens and seeing the Sacred Heart statue there. I like thinking one of the last books he read was about the shroud of Turin. For him then it wasn't so good, but I do believe Elvis is in heaven.
I believe this conclusion to his story is an example of salvation. In Eucharistic Prayer IV in the roman missal there is a lovely phrase where we pray for "those here present, all your people and all who seek you with a sincere heart." I do think Elvis did, but maybe didn't get the personal direction in his seeking that many Church goers can take for granted.
A restless heart that sought God is never beyond redemption. I know much of Elvis' visible life seemed fairly dissolute but that which enabled him to live that life was the voice God gave him which he certainly used to the benefit of others - it still benefits others. None of us knows what he thought on that last day, let alone the rest of his life.
So I think he belonged to all denominations and none, but I think now he belongs to the only denomination that counts, oneness with Christ.

(and just to help every year on his anniversary the RC Parish of St Paul's in Memphis has a Mass for the happy repose of his soul. And this priest does the same in England each year.)

[Tony Trout]

I just want to thank the Mods here at TCB-WORLD for letting us discuss this aspect of Elvis's life....I believe it's essential to discuss this aspect of Elvis's life because it gives us a deeper understanding about the man whose music we all love---ELVIS AARON PRESLEY!!

The Mods at FECC discourage any kind of "religious" conversation....(n) (n)

[KPM]

Well my Grandpa always said the easiest way to start a fight is to bring up
Politics or Religion. Ha ha:)
So maybe thats why they watch it close.

[pete dube]

Those members of this fine mb who are regulars at fecc know that, when religious debates came up over there I was usually in the thick of things arguing for Theism. I don't want to get into that over here. But I would like to say that, for those of us who are believers, we're all works in progress. That's how I regard Elvis. And while outwardly he didn't seem to live a life consistant with Christianity (at least in some areas), he also came to fame at a very young age, and came to maturity at the height of the so-called sexual revolution. By it's very nature celebrity doesn't seem to be condusive to sexual fidelity, and Elvis was the biggest male celebrity sex symbol of all time. I'm not trying to give him a pass or justify his infidelity/immorality whatever, only trying to say that he was a product of his times, and was in a unique situation full of temptations. Whether he was "saved" is between him and God, since only God truly and completely knows Elvis' heart.

[memphis 77]

I?m sure we can safely say he was a Christian, however I was wondering what denomination was he?
Just wondered as to his opinions on other Christian denominations and other religions of anyone may know them,.

his denomination was penticostal, but over his life time he researched and searched for the meaning of life-a devout christian he was not, a hypocrite he was big time. in that he lived and repeated all the 7 deadly sins, [adultery, pride,fornication, blasphemy-shall i go on?, this is one thing that he struggled with his whole life[to be perfect] he didn't even come close, he indulged himself in sin, and paid his debt in full, on AUGUST 16 1977. proof that GOD does not forgive sin when it is commited time and again, even REV REX HUMBARD had a hard time with him to admit and confess his sin[the last meeting was in july of 77], and 3 weeks later he was giving the uelog.

[ajr]

that anyone ahould feel that Elvis was not a Christian.

Since I did not live with Elvis, I don't think I'll judge.

[KPM]

his denomination was penticostal, but over his life time he researched and searched for the meaning of life-a devout christian he was not, a hypocrite he was big time. in that he lived and repeated all the 7 deadly sins, [adultery, pride,fornication, blasphemy-shall i go on?, this is one thing that he struggled with his whole life[to be perfect] he didn't even come close, he indulged himself in sin, and paid his debt in full, on AUGUST 16 1977. proof that GOD does not forgive sin when it is commited time and again, even REV REX HUMBARD had a hard time with him to admit and confess his sin[the last meeting was in july of 77], and 3 weeks later he was giving the uelog.
Memphis I am a Christain- and a hypocrite in some areas, the type of sin -big horrible lie/little white lie makes no difference from what I believe from the Bible its all sin. No Christian is perfect nor will they ever come close in this life on earth. I am not an adulterer nor a thief but yes I have pride-deal with it everyday. Yes I've told untruths usually not big horrible lies, the little white ones-but its still a lie. I work on that everyday. And other things which I am not proud to admit make me way less than perfect. I'm working everyday at it. I know preachers who in the pulpit admit their sins partly to point out nobody is free from sin on earth. The only person who walked this earth free from sin was the one who paid the price for us all. In adult Bible classes we discuss how we fall short everyday sometimes "big time" If you think someone dying young and tragic is proof God does not forgive sin which is repeated- then you must think no one gets to heaven. When I read scripture I do not see that as the case. Struggling to be perfect "will never make you perfect", because the Bible tells you over and over again all fall short-but can be forgiven over and over and over.
This will be my last post on this subject because it does get into how you believe, and how much teaching and scripture reading you have done. Been at it for 33 years and am still a christian in progress.-

PS- my Grandpa was right.

[Lisarose]

Once we choose to be Christian then the hard work begins. Satan works 2x as hard on us, because when we fall - & we will - then he can say - see & THAT'S what you can expect from the so-called christians. I believe Elvis was Christian. In an early interview he stated that he belonged to/attended Assembly of God . He couldn't go to church because his presence disrupted the service. At first he would go late & leave early & sit way in the back. He always stated that he loved gospel music that it gave him peace. He thanked God every day & he read his bible & studied always looking for answers. I don't know personally what Elvis' relationship with God was, but as a Roman Catholic I was taught that we work hard everyday & when we fall, we ask forgiveness & work harder & I also learned that we cannot outsin God's ability to forgive.

[e76]

Referring to the book "Even Elvis" by Mary Ann Thornton. I read the book and am a friend of Mary Ann's. She is a wonderful, upstanding christian person. In her book she gives details of her conversations with Elvis concerning his relationship with God. I think each of you on this forum would really benefit from reading her book. It would answer all the questions that have been raised here. She would love to hear from you all. The book is being redistributed and is available. You can contact Mary Ann personally at
MaryAnThor@aol.com

[Getlo]

Referring to the book "Even Elvis" by Mary Ann Thornton.

Complete fiction and a total fairy tale ... (n)

[Diane]

Elvis was raised as Pentacostle but as Conor said, he had no real denomination as an adult. I firmly believe he was a Christian in all sense of the word and that he had his place waiting for him in heaven when he died. Who ever said being a Christian was one without sin? I am a Christian (R. Catholic) and I don't believe that Christians are the only ones allowed in heaven....God is much greater than that to me and Jesus himself was Jewish you know.

I kind of resent the title of the book "Even Elvis" as it suggests he was the greatest of sinners and that is far from true.

Diane

[Rover]

Interesting posts about religion here...I guess Elvis was a christian, since he performed some gospel songs (Gospel is used by christians, right??)
I fail to grasp the difference between pentacostles and other christians communities though :hmm:

[Stryx]

Interesting posts about religion here...I guess Elvis was a christian, since he performed some gospel songs (Gospel is used by christians, right??)
I fail to grasp the difference between pentacostles and other christians communities though :hmm:

Thats probabaly cos they are all pretty messed up and encrusted in some sort of argument with eachother over something small.....whcih they see as great.

I think it is unfair to label Elvis as anyone one religion.

The fairest thing to say about Elvis is that he believed in God, he was drawn more to Christian texts such as the Bible but that he also explored a myriad of other beliefs and faiths while also being interested in what is termed pagan beliefs.

Elvis most probabaly would have been burned at the stake by some had he lived a few years earlier for the amount of different texts he read.

[BrianK]

I knew he met Pres. Nxon, but did Elvis meet the Pope? If so, where & when?

[TLC67]

Thats probabaly cos they are all pretty messed up and encrusted in some sort of argument with eachother over something small.....whcih they see as great.

I think it is unfair to label Elvis as anyone one religion.

The fairest thing to say about Elvis is that he believed in God, he was drawn more to Christian texts such as the Bible but that he also explored a myriad of other beliefs and faiths while also being interested in what is termed pagan beliefs.

Elvis most probabaly would have been burned at the stake by some had he lived a few years earlier for the amount of different texts he read.

There are 3 types of Pentecostals (that I know of;someone may know more). Two are organizations that seem to bicker about things and the third type are independants that follow the original teachings, but each church has it's own standards.

It is true that Elvis believed in God, and said he attended a holiness (Assembly of God or Church of Christ, possibly?) church in an interview when he was young.
But how could he have possibly attended a church once he was famous? Nobody would have been paying attention to the service, and he knew that. So he did the best that he could by studying various religions and beliefs. Being his own "minister", I suppose.
Anyone that has a problem with that needs to be "burned at the stake".

[ph10579]

He was mainly a christian, but he explored other religions too. Like Islam,buddism etc. I think that is pretty cool!

[Getlo]

I knew he met Pres. Nxon, but did Elvis meet the Pope? If so, where & when?

No, never.

Charlie Hodge mentions that once, during Elvis' army days, Elvis was to be granted leave with the other men. However, he was going to be flown to meet the Pope and several other dignitaries, presumably in Germany.

Elvis apparently said no thanks, as he didn't want to be treated any differently to the other guys in his troop.

A nice story, but Hodge is the only source, so I'd tend to think this one wasn't true.

[Raised on Rock]

He was mainly a christian, but he explored other religions too. Like Islam,buddism etc. I think that is pretty cool!

He did explore Zen Buddhism because of his devotion to martial arts; he also did explore Judaism, something related to his childhood, can?t remeber the story, it was posted here in TCB world years ago, but I have never heard about Elvis and Islam.

[Rover]

It sounds like Elvis was very open-minded! This deserves respect :)

[Stryx]

No, never.

Charlie Hodge mentions that once, during Elvis' army days, Elvis was to be granted leave with the other men. However, he was going to be flown to meet the Pope and several other dignitaries, presumably in Germany.

Elvis apparently said no thanks, as he didn't want to be treated any differently to the other guys in his troop.

A nice story, but Hodge is the only source, so I'd tend to think this one wasn't true.


Yeah very true.

Hodge and Sonny are the only two from the Memphis Mafia Elvis hit. And he gave Hodge a good smacking in 76' I believe!

[suspicious_mind]

I dont know but i love this quote from him...

"I dont want to miss out on Heaven due to a technicality..." :lol:

So he apparently wore The Star Of David and a Cross around his neck (y)

[cprimm]

If you have watched the DVD "He Touched Me: The Gospel Music of Elvis Presley", it was said that singing gospel music was Elvis' way of worshiping. He always prayed before he went on stage. Yes, I think Elvis was a Christian and I plan to see him some day in Heaven. I think he is looking down on us now. As others have stated in this thread, just because you are a Christian does not mean you are sin-free; it just means you have to work a lot harder to maintain your Christian lifestyle, i.e., the devil is going to temp you and temp you harder than the non-Christian.

[Stryx]

If you have watched the DVD "He Touched Me: The Gospel Music of Elvis Presley", it was said that singing gospel music was Elvis' way of worshiping. He always prayed before he went on stage. Yes, I think Elvis was a Christian and I plan to see him some day in Heaven. I think he is looking down on us now. As others have stated in this thread, just because you are a Christian does not mean you are sin-free; it just means you have to work a lot harder to maintain your Christian lifestyle, i.e., the devil is going to temp you and temp you harder than the non-Christian.

So the non-Christian is given a stay of execution from the devil himself!!!:clap:

[cprimm]

I didn't say that Stryx. I said "he will temp the Christian harder than the non-Christian". Never said you would get a stay of execution. Think about what I said.

[Stryx]

I didn't say that Stryx. I said "he will temp the Christian harder than the non-Christian". Never said you would get a stay of execution. Think about what I said.


So by not being Christian someone gets an easier time from the devil?

[KPM]

If you have no belief its hard to take religion serious-so you won't understand it. The Devil is equally hard on everyone. Elvis included.
Its a very personal thing to believe in something with no proof of it being reality.
The only proof is how you feel it. If you don't feel it- you won't get it. Thats as simple as I can put it. In believing your prayers are not always answered, the world does not get any better, and there is no miracle every time you need it. Elvis believed IMO but he never stopped looking for understanding of how it all "fits and works"

[cameron]

If you have no belief its hard to take religion serious-so you won't understand it. The Devil is equally hard on everyone. Elvis included.
Its a very personal thing to believe in something with no proof of it being reality.
The only proof is how you feel it. If you don't feel it- you won't get it. Thats as simple as I can put it. In believing your prayers are not always answered, the world does not get any better, and there is no miracle every time you need it. Elvis believed IMO but he never stopped looking for understanding of how it all "fits and works"


True, how do you explain to one that has no belief system?
I think that one that believes in nothing has a very empty existence.
They only have themselves which leaves them alone and bitter.

"See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil."
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Stryx]

True, how do you explain to one that has no belief system?
I think that one that believes in nothing has a very empty existence.
They only have themselves which leaves them alone and bitter.

Thats a very narrow point of view from someone who obviously believes in God.

Some could say it is sad to believe in something that you can never see touch or feel.

[Getlo]

True, how do you explain to one that has no belief system?
I think that one that believes in nothing has a very empty existence.
They only have themselves which leaves them alone and bitter.

Er, excuse me?

You jump on people for putting Christianity and other beliefs down, yet you do exactly the same for people who choose not to believe in such stories.

Like a lot of religious people, you misjudge athiests. Contrary to popular belief, we do have a belief system: that of logic, science and putting our faith (yes, faith) in things that can actually be proven and verified.

An empty existence? Hardly. Speaking personally, life is fantastic without it being burdened by superstition, God, other Gods or silly stuff designed specifically to make followers feel guilty about the things they do and think in every day life.

Athiests do NOT believe in nothing: we do not believe in God. Huge difference!

Life is good, life is great, life is a miracle: please have the courtesy not to make assumptions about a group of people you clearly do not understand at all.

Elvis would be ashamed of you!

[KPM]

Er, excuse me?

You jump on people for putting Christianity and other beliefs down, yet you do exactly the same for people who choose not to believe in such stories.

Like a lot of religious people, you misjudge athiests. Contrary to popular belief, we do have a belief system: that of logic, science and putting our faith (yes, faith) in things that can actually be proven and verified.

An empty existence? Hardly. Speaking personally, life is fantastic without it being burdened by superstition, God, other Gods or silly stuff designed specifically to make followers feel guilty about the things they do and think in every day life.

Athiests do NOT believe in nothing: we do not believe in God. Huge difference!

Life is good, life is great, life is a miracle: please have the courtesy not to make assumptions about a group of people you clearly do not understand at all.

Elvis would be ashamed of you!
I have a friend who is an agnostic. He and I don't see eye to eye on many things but we are good friends. When we are together we enjoy each others company. When we do run into a topic which puts us on opposing sides-its not personal. We were friends before he became an agnostic and it changed little between us.

[suspicious_mind]

So by not being Christian someone gets an easier time from the devil?


Not necessarily, but i dont think a non-believer would notice it as much. The devil has nothing to intervene in the life of a non-believer...his work is then taking care of itself.

[cameron]

Not necessarily, but i dont think a non-believer would notice it as much. The devil has nothing to intervene in the life of a non-believer...his work is then taking care of itself.

Amen to that. (y)

[Stryx]

Not necessarily, but i dont think a non-believer would notice it as much. The devil has nothing to intervene in the life of a non-believer...his work is then taking care of itself.

lol:clap::clap::clap:

Christianity is not the only religion but I guess the devil only bothers Christians! What about religions that don't have a mono-evil etenity as Judo-Christians do?

I find this hilarious!

Talk about tunnel vision and ignorane towards other religions!!

[cameron]

I've studied many religions. All have some form of a deity to "mete out punishment" in some form or another.

Obviously, agnostics do not; but as they say , agnostics is not a religion.
Neither are atheists. One might be surprised at how closely some of these two "beliefs" compare to Scientology

[MissyM]

He was raised to be a Christian. He embraced that and yet kept trying to learn more. As for him being "right" with God. I have all I can do to worry about my sin and righteousness. I don't usually gives other's much thought.

[Getlo]

Neither are atheists. One might be surprised at how closely some of these two "beliefs" compare to Scientology

That is possibly one of the most ill-informed "opinions" I have ever read ... and it is greatly offensive. :angry:

Not that you will have the courage to respond to me, but just how is athiesm close to a "religion" that believes humans evolved from aliens who came to the earth 75,000 years ago?

Do some research before posting such bollocks.

[cameron]

That is possibly one of the most ill-informed "opinions" I have ever read ... and it is greatly offensive. :angry:

Not that you will have the courage to respond to me, but just how is athiesm close to a "religion" that believes humans evolved from aliens who came to the earth 75,000 years ago?

Do some research before posting such bollocks.

I am going to "try this" for one day. If you cannot be civil, I'll just go back to the way I had it.

I've done much research on many things. Sorry, if you find it offensive.
Did I say atheists believe that humans evolved from aliens? I don't think so.
Nor do I think Scientology is a religion.

[Getlo]

I've done much research on many things. Sorry, if you find it offensive. (No, you're not). Did I say atheists believe that humans evolved from aliens? I don't think so. Nor do I think Scientology is a religion.

And athiesm is close to Scientology how exactly?

And feel free to put me back on ignore, life will no doubt be easier for us both.

[cameron]

Scientologists believe that you need nothing or no one .
You make your own destiny. {Of course, they have all the mumbo-jumbo about aliens, etc. }
Atheists follow the same theory .There IS no God, deity or anything.
As you've so elegantly said, atheists believe only in themselves. Once you're dead you're dead.;)

Atheists follow science, reason .being able to touch ,see or feel that something exists. {I do that too, as a christian ;) }

Scientologits believe that Ron Hubbard invented the perfect theory/life.
IF Hubbard didn't teach it ,it doesn't exist. They point out to you their success in life by living his teachings.

I don't have time for all their stuff. Needless to say, I'd choose atheism over Scientology any day. I think I'd stand a better chance to convert. :hmm:

Anyway; the main thing is Scientologists don't believe in a God or anything else....except living to become " very well off" so you can share your money with them. All their info is on the Net as well as athestic thinking.

In the long run; we all have to answer for the things we do.
Even a christian. ;) We get "no free passes."

[Getlo]

As you've so elegantly said, atheists believe only in themselves.

I'll pay $1000 right now to you or the charity of your choice if you can point to the exact thread or post where I said athiests believe only in themselves.

Go for it. Sorry, but you won't find that ... because I did not state that! Another case of reading something and understanding only the parts you want to.

Athiests believe in logic, science, things that can be proven or measured. We choose not to burden ourselves with the fairytale that is religion. We do not only believe in ourselves ...but that, ultimately, one can only rely on oneself and one's logic to deal with life.

You have - yet again - made wild assumptions about a belief system of which you know nothing.

[cameron]

" Atheists follow science, reason .being able to touch ,see or feel that something exists. {I do that too, as a christian }" quote Cameron

I believe I said that in my post.
Now, I am done. Argue with yourself.

[Getlo]

Now, I am done. Argue with yourself.

Oh, would that it were true ... ! ;)

[Stryx]

I've studied many religions. All have some form of a deity to "mete out punishment" in some form or another.

Obviously, agnostics do not; but as they say , agnostics is not a religion.
Neither are atheists. One might be surprised at how closely some of these two "beliefs" compare to Scientology

I don't know of any of other 'religion' that believes in aliens like the Scientologists!

Albeit a little more crdible than burning bushes, people walking on water and seas parting!!!:clap::clap:

( or are we not to take that literally? or whats the latst stance to try and bend the bible around science and fact these days! lol.......funny thing is the bible was written by men and the new testament was an amalgamation of books...some made it some didnt...man decided! )

[KPM]

I don't know of any of other 'religion' that believes in aliens like the Scientologists!

Albeit a little more crdible than burning bushes, people walking on water and seas parting!!!:clap::clap:

( or are we not to take that literally? or whats the latst stance to try and bend the bible around science and fact these days! lol.......funny thing is the bible was written by men and the new testament was an amalgamation of books...some made it some didnt...man decided! )
I am a Christian and I could debate some of this further but won't. You either believe on faith or you don't. I learned long ago to not try and push my religious beliefs on someone who was not the least bit interested-its best for all involved. Every person has free will to choose and when someone shows a willing interest I am happy to help them if I can in my faith.
But religion and politics are sure fire argument starters even among the best of friends.

[Rover]

Ok it's a bit off topic...but I wanted to know something, I vaguely recall reading something about very religious people being shocked the first time they saw Elvis in the 50s, is that true?

[Getlo]

Ok it's a bit off topic...but I wanted to know something, I vaguely recall reading something about very religious people being shocked the first time they saw Elvis in the 50s, is that true?

Yeah, some religious nutters thought he was the Devil incarnate.

There were burnings of his records, and other records ... rallies against the "scourge" or rock'n'roll. The whole box and dice.

They thought the "beat" of the music was Satan's rhythm.

Today, these types of people can be found wasting their valuable time protesting shows like Californication or the music of Marilyn Manson, and generally making the world a slightly sadder place than it needs to be ...

[Stryx]

Yeah, some religious nutters thought he was the Devil incarnate.

There were burnings of his records, and other records ... rallies against the "scourge" or rock'n'roll. The whole box and dice.

They thought the "beat" of the music was Satan's rhythm.

Today, these types of people can be found wasting their valuable time protesting shows like Californication or the music of Marilyn Manson, and generally making the world a slightly sadder place than it needs to be ...


Don't forget they also vote for Bush and try and stop stem cell research!

[KPM]

Ok it's a bit off topic...but I wanted to know something, I vaguely recall reading something about very religious people being shocked the first time they saw Elvis in the 50s, is that true?
Big time he was called Satans Spawn by one Preacher.

[KPM]

]Yeah, some religious nutters [/B]thought he was the Devil incarnate.

There were burnings of his records, and other records ... rallies against the "scourge" or rock'n'roll. The whole box and dice.

They thought the "beat" of the music was Satan's rhythm.

Today, these types of people can be found wasting their valuable time protesting shows like Californication or the music of Marilyn Manson, and generally making the world a slightly sadder place than it needs to be ...
Not all are nutters and not all thought that of Elvis-just to clarify that.

[Diane]

A lot of people thought Elvis was the devil's spawn and that rock and roll contributed to teenage delinquency.

I lucked out, both my parents couldn't see that in him or that the music was harmful. Some of my family did, but I had the good sensible ones. :clap:

Diane

[presley31]

my parents liked elvis and so did my grandparents so l got lucky.

[KPM]

My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!" :lol:

[presley31]

My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!" :lol:

:lmfao: good one KPM

[Merry]

My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!" :lol:



LOL, I find that comment, from your grandma, really heartwarming and cute!

Kim

[Diane]

Well KPM, your mom and aunt had different tastes but your grandmother was a jewel! And...a very sensible woman. :D

Diane

[4THEHEART]

In my humble opinion,god is nothing to do with religions,and each person,has his/her own concept of god even if they don't belong to any of the known religions or similar organizations just like me..my concept of god is, as "the source of all"..kind of a key that will unlock the chest of the total awareness,something that doesn't have a physical shape or egotistic needs,and we are connected to this source and also we each are, creators by our own powers,fed by that big one.as for punishment,guess it's up to us and nothing like we could imagine in our present way of thinking, it must be more like a learning and understanding process to get ready for a higher level. I believe Elvis's aim in enlightement was never limited with rules of any single religion though he respect and studied many of them if not all..saying this,hope I do not offend any soul here..but we go on learning from every single element and idea of others.. with our free minds and hearts,and our ever expanding awareness,we can go through the highest barriers one by one ..funny,we're still curious about Elvis' type of belief..yes I say "type of" because we are tought some certain methods only and still afraid of searching the truth within ourselves..I believe Elvis managed to do this,don't think he ever spent any single moment without learning a thing..again a good example in another area,yet no one has to follow.. sure a different Elvis I see in him,comparing his image..

[cameron]

I agree with you very much . I'm afraid I don't follow the "normal" terms in religion either . More of the spiritual search.

We can create our own "hell" and "punishments "ourselves . ;)
Though I do believe there's a much higher,smarter presence than myself..
At least I sure hope so. :)

Excellent post !!

[Diane]

I tend to agree with you in most of what you had to say Zey too. I believe in a higher power from which we were created and to whom we will go back to and that includes ALL religions and even those who have had no teachings at all...if they lead the best life they possibly can. I can't believe a god would turn away a decent person or child because of lack of religious teachings.

I think there is a lot of good in organized religion and is very comforting for a lot of people but like every organization some of it has been corrupted for power and control.

Diane

[4THEHEART]

thanks Cameron,Diane..
through our history religions used by some (can't even say evil) miserable minds to control the masses and keeping the power in their hands by dividing people and feeding the hatred against one another..so I never needed them to search and find some answers..of course this is a personal choice.
It was supposed to be a big and nice plan but the point we reached today seems rather hopeless.We take "the good" as weakness,some kinda misery and even surreal.but "evil" is almost more believable and logical and common..even when we love another human being,as in our love of Elvis,we try not to go over our quota of believable goodness..when someone is a little more special or have more than one or two good qualities we even afraid to accept or pronounce it,for we could be considered among others as naive,immature,unaware,worshipping dreamers and even more and worse..so we automatically feel ourselves closer to negativeness,more comfortable when our guards on,ready to fight,ready to hear bad news..it seems we've lost our belief in good..I guess fear is the major reason for our being so..love and fear are the contrary of each other and when a person afraid of even the most sacred thing in their life,as "God" for some people,they can't feel true love for it.Maybe religions should consider not to use fear factor that much when they supposed to be showing crowds the right way..

[cameron]

thanks Cameron,Diane..
through our history religions used by some (can't even say evil) miserable minds to control the masses and keeping the power in their hands by dividing people and feeding the hatred against one another..so I never needed them to search and find some answers..of course this is a personal choice.
It was supposed to be a big and nice plan but the point we reached today seems rather hopeless.We take "the good" as weakness,some kinda misery and even surreal.but "evil" is almost more believable and logical and common..even when we love another human being,as in our love of Elvis,we try not to go over our quota of believable goodness..when someone is a little more special or have more than one or two good qualities we even afraid to accept or pronounce it,for we could be considered among others as naive,immature,unaware,worshipping dreamers and even more and worse..so we automatically feel ourselves closer to negativeness,more comfortable when our guards on,ready to fight,ready to hear bad news..it seems we've lost our belief in good..I guess fear is the major reason for our being so..love and fear are the contrary of each other and when a person afraid of even the most sacred thing in their life,as "God" for some people,they can't feel true love for it.Maybe religions should consider not to use fear factor that much when they supposed to be showing crowds the right way..

I've said for a long time ; one cannot control another person by using fear .
It only works for a short time.
IMO, that's the problem with some organized religions.
It's why I chose differently and why some of my children have gotten away from the church.
I choose to believe in the basic goodness of all.
IMO; fear and hate is taught it's not a natural state of being. [/B

Yes, I long wished [B]some of the churches would teach love and stop trying to use scare tactics. It just drives some away. :'(

[Merry]

I've said for a long time ; one cannot control another person by using fear .
It only works for a short time.
IMO, that's the problem with some organized religions.
It's why I chose differently and why some of my children have gotten away from the church.
I choose to believe in the basic goodness of all.
IMO; fear and hate is taught it's not a natural state of being. [/B

Yes, I long wished [B]some of the churches would teach love and stop trying to use scare tactics. It just drives some away. :'(


I agree with you, Cam.

Well said, 4TheHeart and Diane.

Take care,
Kim

[ricardo b. prospero]

I am personally not too keen to what religious group Elvis was affiliated. I believe the prime cause of the world's turmoil is religion and politics.

[Merry]

I am personally not too keen to what religious group Elvis was affiliated. I believe the prime cause of the world's turmoil is religion and politics.


Absolutely, sad, huh!

[MJ27]

I am personally not too keen to what religious group Elvis was affiliated. I believe the prime cause of the world's turmoil is religion and politics.

I totally agree. Religion is a virus which has poisoned a beautiful world.

[Rover]

A lot of people thought Elvis was the devil's spawn and that rock and roll contributed to teenage delinquency.

lol...nowadays being an Elvis fan makes you a respectable :)

[Natalie]

I think that one that believes in nothing has a very empty existence.
They only have themselves which leaves them alone and bitter.


:lmfao::lmfao:

[presley31]

thanks Cameron,Diane..
through our history religions used by some (can't even say evil) miserable minds to control the masses and keeping the power in their hands by dividing people and feeding the hatred against one another..so I never needed them to search and find some answers..of course this is a personal choice.
It was supposed to be a big and nice plan but the point we reached today seems rather hopeless.We take "the good" as weakness,some kinda misery and even surreal.but "evil" is almost more believable and logical and common..even when we love another human being,as in our love of Elvis,we try not to go over our quota of believable goodness..when someone is a little more special or have more than one or two good qualities we even afraid to accept or pronounce it,for we could be considered among others as naive,immature,unaware,worshipping dreamers and even more and worse..so we automatically feel ourselves closer to negativeness,more comfortable when our guards on,ready to fight,ready to hear bad news..it seems we've lost our belief in good..I guess fear is the major reason for our being so..love and fear are the contrary of each other and when a person afraid of even the most sacred thing in their life,as "God" for some people,they can't feel true love for it.Maybe religions should consider not to use fear factor that much when they supposed to be showing crowds the right way..

well said ZEY.

[SleepyJack]

From what I`ve heard and read over the years I`ve always got the impression that Elvis was always a very spiritual person...as to whether he was a christian or not,or if so then what type etc. isn`t really too much of anyones business...in my opinion religon it is a private thing between the believer and whatever it is that he/she believes in...also,given the temptations that surrounded him I reckon he did a pretty good job of being a decent human being...

[Diane]

Yup, I agree with you SleepyJack, Elvis sure had a lot thrown at him and I'm glad that his sense of religion gave him some comfort and something to turn to.

Diane

[LocalRaven]

Elvis was raised as Pentacostle but as Conor said, he had no real denomination as an adult. I firmly believe he was a Christian in all sense of the word and that he had his place waiting for him in heaven when he died. Who ever said being a Christian was one without sin? I am a Christian (R. Catholic) and I don't believe that Christians are the only ones allowed in heaven....God is much greater than that to me and Jesus himself was Jewish you know.

I kind of resent the title of the book "Even Elvis" as it suggests he was the greatest of sinners and that is far from true.

Diane

Good point Diane! This is how we should take others in.(y)

[john carpenter]

Elvis was raised Penecostal(as i was). We were/are called "holy rollers". I agree Tony Trout,to be a "christian" is to be Christ like. Elvis proved time and time again he never forgot his gospel side. Whether he was "saved" or not is not for me to say. In our church you have to be babtized and then recieve "the holy spirit". And then sin no more.But i believe in my heart Elvis made it to the pearly gates. From Graceland Gates to the Pearly Gates, Now that would be a good song title,LoL