View Full Version : Sports Illustrated at Graceland, from the Waist Up!!!
Raised on Rock
02-20-2007, 08:50 PM
So what's the reason about this so called fans outrage? the odd thing about it is that some of the posts I've read on that subject are so alike to the kind of bad response that Elvis received after singing Hound Dog on the Milton Berle show in '56, did nobody remeber that SEX was a big part of Elvis controversial act during the 50's.
Other fans complain about what the hell does this have to do with Elvis image when in fact thousands of images in motion of tremendous hot girls where used on most of his films not only to make the picture atractive for his male fans? but to assure Elvis image as a Sex Symbol, plus many femeale fans during the early 60's here Elvis fans not really because his musical talent or acting skills but because the same reason many healthy male Elvis fans will go and get this Sport Illsutrated number, and maybe some girls too hehe...
At last some fans may don't know that actually Elvis enjoyed taking photos like this to Cilla and Linda!!! photos by the way that are not porn at all for Christ Sake!!
Yeas I do agree with the fans that think E.P.E. is not doing enough or almost nothing about promoting Elvis as an artist, and that his credibility as a real musician gets totally underestimated or even buried in between the amount of crap that E.P.E. is regulary is delivering as marketing stuff. But it is also true that you do need marketing these days in order to keep a name alive, the question is: what type of promotional stunts will get us to the place we want to be?
My opinion is: in terms of updating Elvis image and to project that image to a new audience, a fresher one than his older fans and a mature one than the ones reached with Lilo & Stich, its a good move, its definetively one good step away from Elvis image related with being fat and donuts, PoP *****s, Cheap Impersonactors and low quality memorablia.
Sport Illustrated its fine magazine, cool it down with the moral speeches, there is anything vulgar here, seems that some fans want to see a girl from the from neck up only.
Dovey
02-21-2007, 10:31 AM
I honestly do not care... I think some of it was done in very poor taste but when you look at the people who are running EPE what can you expect. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Always did come first!!! Dovey;)
Elvis will always be the king!!!!! (Not much is the same at Graceland as it was when he left this world.) It is not longer his home. :doh: :doh:
Thew pictures are beautifull(y) (y) Elvis would like it!
No truer words have been spoken, Dovey.
IMO, EPE and the fans have taken over Graceland.
IF Elvis were able to return; there'd be no place for him.
I realized that when I saw "Finding Graceland."
When "Elvis" started to cry .....I cried for all of our loss too.
A sad realization. I'm not so sure I like that. :'(
Diane
02-21-2007, 11:20 AM
Graceland hasn't been Elvis' home for a great many years now - it's just a commodity so what does it all matter? Money never mattered to Elvis but it means everything to EPE and they'll get it every way they can. This is no worse than anything else they've done.
elvisia
02-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I have no problems with it at all, but I really don`t see what it has to do with Elvis. If they had used the Linda picture from the jungle room I would have understood, but I guess Linda don`t agree.
Raised on Rock
02-21-2007, 01:44 PM
I have no problems with it at all, but I really don`t see what it has to do with Elvis. If they had used the Linda picture from the jungle room I would have understood, but I guess Linda don`t agree.
That would be an interesting opinion to hear about all this, I mean Linda's opinion. I think it has to do with Elvis as much as his movie Girls Girls Girls has to do with him, so what does that movie has to do with him? mmm... (not much I guess, but it was fun) Im really not interested on that film neither on the soundtrack (except for Return to Sender). Human being is one thing, image is another etc. those photos are not about Elvis and nobody is pretending they are directly linked to him, its just about image and marketing, its about money as same as most of his 60's pictures, and I rather go for this magazine than for Harum Scarum, although I rather go for Elvis is Back! or his first album, any of those albums and that mag sound like good times anyway ;)
Thanks for your vote and your reply.
elvisia
02-21-2007, 01:53 PM
Raised on Rock, what I meant was that if they had used a picture like the one of Linda in the jungle room(But she might not wanted that picture to be used) or one from Girls, Girls,girls for that matter, I could easily connect it to Elvis, but the girl in the pics that they actually used have nothing to do with elvis at all. Do you understand what I mean?
Raised on Rock
02-21-2007, 03:14 PM
Raised on Rock, what I meant was that if they had used a picture like the one of Linda in the jungle room(But she might not wanted that picture to be used) or one from Girls, Girls,girls for that matter, I could easily connect it to Elvis, but the girl in the pics that they actually used have nothing to do with elvis at all. Do you understand what I mean?
But that's the odd thing, you may conect any girl of any Presley movie with Elvis, but the thing is that with a few exceptions Presley movies has nothing to do with Elvis as an artist, needless to say as a human being, yet we inmediately link Girls Girls Girls with Elvis cause that's how the marketing of back then sold Elvis image to us and we did buy it, but as ELvis said one thing is the image and other the human being.
It is obvious that you and many other fans do not link these girls or S.I. magazine for a simple reason, those girls and that magazine has anything to do with Elvis, just as Walt Disney cartoons had anything to do with Elvis before L&S, or JXL and remixes had anything to do with Elvis, or even just like Vegas or Hawaii had anything to do with Elvis before '69 or Blue Hawaii, but that's exactly what they're trying to do with these photos: TO CREATE NEW LINKS, to update Elvis image to a new audience. Some will get it some will not, you obviously don't and you may be right for that.
Of course Elvis is dead, he did what he did, his image is the result of his lifetime and in a way, that cannot be altered, what do can change is the way we, society perceive him, and that has a lot to do with how his work, his history, and his image is delivered by the media today, and that obvioulsy has to do with E.P.E.
Im not a fan of EPE, and I have stated in this thread and in many others that I do not agree in the way those people are managing ELvis image today for one main reason, seems that for them as well as for many fans, music and art is the least important thing about Elvis, and that is somethin I consider a retarded conception. Yet this is not only EPE to blame, this misconception can be tracked back to '62 due to Colonel Parker ideas, but mostly and we have to face that, it was Elvis exagerated tolerance to missleaded management to blame. Elvis had to choose among show business or real artistic development, he choosed or let others choose for him the first. Now we are still having the results of that.
Yet not everything in show business is crap, and it is my opinion that this issue of S.P. would not be crap or at least is better than many other ideas before. Now you may don't like these new move, you may dissagree with these step, well that's totally fine with me, we don't have to agree, as Elvis said, you can't please everybody, some fans were pleased with some of Elvis decitions, others were not.
So my point is if you don't like them or don't mind them that's fine, if you like them and will enjoy them that cool also, but if you start calling names to those girls and make judgements like: vulgar, denigrating... well I think that's out of place, I don't know what's Linda Thompson opinions about all this, but even if she disagre, I don't think she will call names to those girls or call those photos vulgar for one main reason, she was a model and did that kind of job, which I believe its a lovely one by the way.
The only reason to outrage here is the attitude of some fans towards sex.
elvisia
02-21-2007, 04:05 PM
Raisedonrock wrote:
but if you start calling names to those girls and make judgements like: vulgar, denigrating... well I think that's out of place, I don't know what's Linda Thompson opinions about all this, but even if she disagre, I don't think she will call names to those girls or call those photos vulgar for one main reason, she was a model and did that kind of job, which I believe its a lovely one by the way.
Well, I`m not calling names to those girls or anything, but I just don`t see what their connections to Elvis are....He didn`t know them and that`s why I don´t see why they should promote him or his music......
To me Elvis music is the main thing and I don`t mind his personal life involved in promoting him, but these girls had nothing to do with Elvis at all.......
I`ll say it again, if they had used the Linda picture, then I could have understood the Elvis connection......But I`m not sure if Linda would`ve liked to have HER picture used.....
I don`t think Linda mind those girls haven their pictures taking in the jungle room, but she might think, for what reason...... they didn`t know Elvis
4THEHEART
02-21-2007, 04:34 PM
I had to write again cause I can't understand how can you compare the person's pics who lived in the house or own the house with those one.and it's not the matter of girls,boys,or bikinis or furs..it's using the home for some stupid photo session and such..this is a house and people visit there that's all..what about tv commercials filming at the house, goodies such astoothpastes etc..
srj1967
02-21-2007, 09:53 PM
Graceland is not just a house anymore, and hasn't been since '82. (And yeah, the family closes it at Xmas for dinner or whatever, but it's not a house).
It is a public attraction and is fit for promotions such as this.
I wonder if some of the women objecting to this would feel the same if it was male models used? If that were the case, I'd be totally fine with it again ... I just wouldn't bother checking out the pictures this time!
poormansgold
02-22-2007, 07:24 AM
here We go again Judgement on how things look, If Elvis did a shoot for Playgirl only in his shorts girls will goes nuts over it?.
We need to stop judgement on things.
JerryNodak
02-22-2007, 08:06 AM
It's not going to help or hurt the image. I don't have a problem with the pictures. Why all the fuss? Stop living in the Dark Ages.
SingingStarlet
02-22-2007, 09:59 AM
I don't see the big deal
Raised on Rock
02-22-2007, 12:55 PM
I had to write again cause I can't understand how can you compare the person's pics who lived in the house or own the house with those one.and it's not the matter of girls,boys,or bikinis or furs..it's using the home for some stupid photo session and such..this is a house and people visit there that's all..what about tv commercials filming at the house, goodies such astoothpastes etc..
Graceland stoped to be a home when Vernon passed away, now Lisa owns the place and for good or bad Graceland is now a public site, cut it out with the atachment, Elvis is dead, I really can't think of Elvis as this ghost cying all over Graceland: what they have done!!! that's childish.
Now once again, if you consider S.I. mag as stupid, that´s fine, you got your right for that, but is not such a big deal as much as to take it to the extreme of making tootpaste TV comercials at Graceland, it has nothing to do with that, S.I. is a well established Mag and neither S.I. needs E.P.E. neither E.P.E. need S.I. its just S.I choosed to take this years pics in diferent famous rock themed places, so, rock themed places? Graceland was an obvious choice, so its no diferent as Neil Young asking permision to use a Graceland picture for one of his albums, unfortunately, they deny it to Neil and they were a bunch of ***%$#¬! for doing that. I think it would have been a mistake to lost this chance once again.
Donut
02-22-2007, 02:11 PM
I don?t think this is a big deal. Graceland is not Elvis home because sadly he is dead and I share the view with someone from here that I don?t think Elvis ghost is there crying on every corner of the house. If there is live after death sure we go to another place. It?s a business now since Lisa choose not to live there and keep it as a museum and they need to promote it and try to reach to new people. Personally I find more disgusting the crap they sell.
Notice that the girl on the first picture is wearing a TCB ring!:D
http://www.tcb.no/elvis/tmp/sportsillustrated.htm
Elvis_Priestly
02-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Not a subscriber to SI (Bikini Edition or otherwise!) but I've been watching this thread and noticed, and reviewed at their own site, courtesy of the last link that this years "theme" was Rock and Roll. I notice they used the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for some of the shots too as well as various music stars, such as beyonc? herself.
In context I would actually take it as a tribute that the, though empty, throne of the King of Rock and Roll was used too.
I'd be, and am, pretty annoyed if, and when, Rock and Roll projects don't include Elvis. Whatever EPE's motives, SI musta thought "We're doing a Rock and Roll theme, we gotta include Elvis" - good on them.
(Ok, that said, I'm going back to look at my Pope Benedict 2007 Calendar!)
:lmfao:
Nothing wrong with looking it's the touching that get's you into trouble
elvisia
02-23-2007, 07:49 AM
Thanks for posting the link meg. Now I got the full picture.....I understand it better.
Elvis_ Priestly, I like your way of justifying..(y)
Raised on Rock
02-23-2007, 11:37 AM
I'd be, and am, pretty annoyed if, and when, Rock and Roll projects don't include Elvis. Whatever EPE's motives, SI musta thought "We're doing a Rock and Roll theme, we gotta include Elvis" - good on them.
(Ok, that said, I'm going back to look at my Pope Benedict 2007 Calendar!)
You totally got it, and how many times E.P.E. has missed that link, now they didn't, and that's what I mean when I say it was a good step away of some mistakes of the past. Yet seems that lots of outraged fans simply won't get that and find this as nothing to do with Elvis as if only Elvis has to do with ELvis, I think the bad reaction of many fans was mainly out of their prejudices.
Sheila
02-23-2007, 02:19 PM
I don't like it!! (n) (n) And, I thought no one is allowed to go upstairs!!!! I don't think it's fair that she was up in Lisa's room!! She probably had the chance to see everything upstairs that we cannot see! What is going on? This is really a poor taste(n) (n) to pose in side Graceland!!!!! It should be outside.:mad: Sheila
Merry
02-23-2007, 04:57 PM
All I can say is that there is a photo of one of the models lieing on a giant guitar at Humes High School in front of a black board - and I have to have those shoes! lol :jawdrop:
:jawdrop:
:)
Jess
Hey nothing wrong with men looking, they just need to come home (you know the saying). (y)
diamond
02-23-2007, 05:04 PM
I don't like it!! (n) (n) And, I thought no one is allowed to go upstairs!!!! I don't think it's fair that she was up in Lisa's room!! She probably had the chance to see everything upstairs that we cannot see! What is going on? This is really a poor taste(n) (n) to pose in side Graceland!!!!! It should be outside.:mad: Sheila
Sheila from what I can gather the bed she is posing on is now on display downstairs.
Do you know what, I don't care about these pictures because as far as I'm concerned Graceland is a Museum and not a home anymore, in fact I would go so far as to say, I don't think Lisa stays there anyway, not even for Christmas.......well not unless there is a film crew there then maybe she will pretend.
presley
02-23-2007, 06:11 PM
Sheila from what I can gather the bed she is posing on is now on display downstairs.
Do you know what, I don't care about these pictures because as far as I'm concerned Graceland is a Museum and not a home anymore, in fact I would go so far as to say, I don't think Lisa stays there anyway, not even for Christmas.......well not unless there is a film crew there then maybe she will pretend.
l have read that Lisa has never stayed over night at graceland since elvis death, she used to stay at pasty place when she was visiting and now in hotels. sorry l got off topic there. :blush:
Merry
02-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Yeah, face it, it's not a home anymore, just a building. Home is where the heart is and there is no heart left there. Lisa distances herself from it and she is the last of the family. The only ones that care are the fans.
With respect, you know, I feel Lisa cares a great deal. It is hard to go back to places with all the wonderful memories. It hurts. I am the same. I can't drive past my grandparent's old home. I've watched Lisa being interviewed, I truely could sense and see in all the interviews, look into her eyes, her body language. Please look. The songs she has dedicated to her dad, please watch her ... Love doesn't leave.
I still love my biological father, whom I haven't seen since I was six. Lisa wouldn't be any different. She loves her dad, unfortunately it is the circumstances of the business, she is probably being swept along, like a lot of us have been with things like that. Stories have been "embellished" or "put in a different light", by her mother (I've experienced the same type of thing, why wouldn't she believe her? One day, she'll figure it out, like I eventually did). I believe her daddy is in her heart, and always will be. Mine is.
Jess :hug:
Donut
02-24-2007, 03:48 PM
I don't like it!! (n) (n) And, I thought no one is allowed to go upstairs!!!! I don't think it's fair that she was up in Lisa's room!! She probably had the chance to see everything upstairs that we cannot see! What is going on? This is really a poor taste(n) (n) to pose in side Graceland!!!!! It should be outside.:mad: Sheila
Lisa?s bed is on display downstairs so the model wasn?t allowed upstairs, don?t worry ;)
Merry
02-25-2007, 05:44 PM
I just read about that ten minutes ago. I don't understand it. It doesn't make sense, surely there is more to it?
There has to be. Sometimes it is good to give people the benefit of the doubt and wait and see..... If I could help, I surely would, I want to.
He is in her heart, I know that, I truely do. Sometimes people don't realise what they are doing, but there has to be more to it, it just doesn't make sense. See what develops. Hugs ya.
Jess
Merry
02-25-2007, 06:50 PM
It doesn't make sense, one can only give benefit of the doubt for now.
Jess
MauriceColgan
02-26-2007, 02:57 AM
It's just more publicity.
Good or bad Elvis Presley's music benifits in the long run. That's the bonus.
When Elvis died I thought there was no point in going to Graceland. But it is a special experience when you get there. It took us 40 years!
mistymorning
02-26-2007, 05:00 AM
It seems that some of you have not noticed the other aspect of this issue?! you are just having fun with the idea of a nearly nude girl with sexy photos!
Does elvis need a sexy girl to attracat attention to graceland?! what about his own natural potential as a great artist and a cultral and sex icon of the century?!
What next? some rich people can celebrate their girlfriends birthday there if they pay enough?!!
srj1967
02-26-2007, 05:24 AM
Actually, the photoshoot was primarily designed to give SI another location at which to shoot.
The fact that it's Graceland as the location would probably be irrelevant to most SI readers.
If some extra readers decide to look further at Graceland or Elvis, then so be it. But I can't see it making much difference.
And no, there is no further issue there than good looking women modelling hot bikinis at Graceland. There is no anti-woman agenda, nor does it denigrate women or Elvis.
The very noble feminist movement was hijacked years ago by angry "wimmin" who read far too much into things ... and the exact same thing is being done here.
It's a photoshoot ... nothing more, nothing less! :angry:
Raised on Rock
02-26-2007, 01:47 PM
It seems that some of you have not noticed the other aspect of this issue?! you are just having fun with the idea of a nearly nude girl with sexy photos!
Does elvis need a sexy girl to attracat attention to graceland?! what about his own natural potential as a great artist and a cultral and sex icon of the century?!
What next? some rich people can celebrate their girlfriends birthday there if they pay enough?!!
Which part you don´t get? E.P.E. didn't bring some girls to promote Elvis, that would be retarded, I mean you are right, Elvis do not need of a sexy girl to attract any kind of attention, and this is not the case, so for the last time: there is a magazine called S.I. which is about nearly nude girls and sexy photos yes, either you like it either you don't, now this mag doesn't need of Elvis at all to promote itself, as same as Graceland as a museum or whatever it is doesn't need of those photos to promote them selves, it just happened that S.I. wanted to make a Rock and Roll themed issue and Graceland was a rock and roll site they couldn't miss.
So why not? E.P.E. said yes, it is not a porn mag, it in not offencive in anyway, its a well stablished magazine, so they said yes, and what's the big deal? its done and it doesn't hurt neither benefit Elvis image, and it doesn't had anything to do with peolpe getting married or celebrating in graceland or whatever, it only has to do with open the gates to a top quality mag doing a rock and roll relate issue!
poormansgold
02-27-2007, 05:52 AM
This Getting out of hand on this thead, Get over it, It's been done and over with Let this go. I was Upset At frist Too, after I See Another's pictures, there around Memphis too.
I'm not upset about now because I can't change it why get upset over pictures are in good tase , no one is getting hurt or die from thoses pictures.
few you guys crying liked babys, I'm Sorry I say that but it's the true.
Tom
elvisfan4ever
02-28-2007, 10:15 AM
ahhhhhhhhhhh just stop complaining-its all good- -no big deal -some of you make it sound like graceland is sorta like the vatican a holy place- it wasint-it was simply elvis home the place he loved the most and lots of things went on over there which is normal lots of pretty women-im sure he wouldint complain-nice shoot i like it-no harm done what so ever to elivs image-hes probably smiling up in heaven over it-he loves the photo shoot (y) (y) (y) (y) (y) (y) elvis is king forever:king: :king: :king: :king:
Teddy
12-08-2008, 06:28 AM
I found them very emotive :blush:
presley31
12-08-2008, 06:32 AM
wow another really old thread.
Teddy
12-08-2008, 06:44 AM
It's a great way for relative newcomers like myself to catch up, though :lol:
ehollier
12-08-2008, 06:44 AM
The whole idea and the pictures seem very Elvis. I think he would have thought it was an awesome idea. Personally, I think that the SI bathing suit issue is nothing to really get all excited about as it is a "guys only issue", but as far as Elvis is concerned, he would have be thrilled!!!
Teddy
12-08-2008, 06:46 AM
I found it very touching. :blush:
It's probably the most fun Graceland's walls have seen in decades. :lol:
Sonny
12-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Elvis would have wanna be the one taking the pics I guess...lol.
But this subject is what, a year old??
Wendy56
12-09-2008, 08:05 PM
I haven't seen the pictures. Don't think the models really knew how much important Graceland is... :hmm: Also, that's not a place for almost-nude-girls... Though Graceland is not a real church either. :blush:
Anyway, those photos are gonna give some cash to EPE and publicity. What else can EPE ask for? :lmfao:
I would be happy of being one of those models, by the way. :D And not talking about their shapes. :lmfao:
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