Anyone like Elvis and Priscilla together?

[Dee13]

It seems I find so many people who seems to hate Cilla, and I read why, and its just astounds me

I always loved Elvis and Priscilla as a couple, loved Cilla and Elvis separately also, and I just don't get this hate people have for Priscilla.



Also, even though Elvis cheated and did a lot of mean things to Cilla, I still think Elvis loved Cilla with all his heart and she loved him back.


After the divorce didn't he still go to Cilla and talk about his problems and wasn't she always there for him?

I just don't understand how people seem to think Priscilla is the bad woman, and yes she still has his name, whats wrong with that? She never married the man she is with today, so I don't see no problem in that.


Maybe, she wants to keep something of Elvis to her heart and thats why she has the last name I dunno, but I do believed that was her True Love, and she really wanted him to change, before the divorce she did ask him to go away on vacation spend time with her and Lisa, she desperately did try to save the marriage but he just wasn't interested at that time.


I don't think Priscilla is a victim thats not what I'm saying, but Elvis loved her, and I believe that love was very strong at one point.


I still think that song You Are Always on my Mind was for Cilla, maybe I'm wrong but yeah, I am sorry, I am new to this board, so I may get some backlash on the Cilla haters, but I admire her for being a strong woman, she was with Elvis a long time since she was a young teenage girl, and I don't think she was after him for anything other then him and the love she felt for him.


I like Lisa also, and Lisa loves her mom, I don't get why there is so much hate for Priscilla, I just adored Elvis with her, and whats sad is he realized way to late that they should have tried to save the marriage, thats whats more sad.


I still think after the divorce Elvis loved Priscilla and if she came back to him he would have got back together with her in a heartbeat, maybe I'm wrong on that but I think its true.


Priscilla was the one person Elvis Truly confided all his fears, thoughts and opinions, and personal stuff to, and she stood by his side through a lot of crap, she tried to help him get off the pills, but he didn't. But anyways, I am a Elvis fan, a Priscilla fan, a Lisa fan, and a Elvis & Priscilla fan, and I will always be.


Anyways, I just wanted to post my thoughts on this, sometimes when you see interviews of Priscilla and she talks of Elvis or someone asks her something you definitely do see a sadness in her eyes, but I am sorry for going on and on about this lol.



I just think things could have been different if Elvis decided to do what Cilla asked and they got away and spent time together with Lisa, maybe they would have stayed together, maybe Elvis wouldn't have let his health go real bad, and maybe just maybe he may still be alive today, but thats a big theory but sometimes you just wonder you know :)



Rest in Peace Elvis we miss you!


Anyone here the song Bill Medley sang for Elvis, Old Friend? Omg its beautiful, and sad its on Youtube I will post the link if its okay :)



http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3J7zDwQ3VI

[Tommy]

Thank you for your nice post.(y)

Welcome :tcbworld:

Tommy:D

[JDD]

Welcome and Good Luck to ya Dee . I don't think its deserved but you could be right about the Backlash.


I never cared who he was with or not with . I'm mainly an Elvis fan. I don't post on other fan sites for any other celebrity. I neither Hate nor Love Priscilla but when I met her she was friendly to me. I Can't really ask for anymore then that.

[Dee13]

Awww thanks for the nice welcome. I am just not ready for the backlash lol.. but oh well.


I am a fan of the whole family basically :)


But thanks again for the welcomes :D

[presley]

Hello Dee13
Welcome and good Luck, you might need it. I can't say anything about priscilla, l have never met her, just heard stories, but everybody has there own opioions. I too like elvis and priscilla together, they were beauful, and yes they had problems but who marriages are perfect? Priscilla did want her marrige to work, but it's a shame elvis couldn't and wouldn't change for her or anybody, so needless to say priscilla find someone who gave her things that elvis didn't, it would be hard for any woman to walk away from the man she turly loved, but sometimes things like that happen. I will problay get the whiplash of this too, but sometimes you have to speak up to be heard.

[ajr]

That's why so many hate her. They blame her, in a way for what happened to Elvis.
Elvis was a "big boy" , I would have left him too. They had no marriage ,as such. How could they ;with all the guys being around all the time ?
I never hated 'Cilla, but neither did I like her.... not because of Elvis, because of Lisa. Another story and one I don't want to go into at this time. Read the book about her : Child Bride.

You'll get no "backlash" from me .....just an education. ;)

[Merry]

That's why so many hate her. They blame her, in a way for what happened to Elvis.
Elvis was a "big boy" , I would have left him too. They had no marriage ,as such. How could they ;with all the guys being around all the time ?
I never hated 'Cilla, but neither did I like her.... not because of Elvis, because of Lisa. Another story and one I don't want to go into at this time. Read the book about her : Child Bride.

You'll get no "backlash" from me .....just an education. ;)




Hi there,

With all due respect. Don't forget that "The Guys" where there well before Priscilla was in the picture. She knew the situation, her choice. She chose to try and change Elvis. No-one has the right to try and change anyone.

Have a great day!

Jess

[Dee13]

Elvis cheated on Cilla many times, maybe not when they were married but they were still a couple , and that in my mind is cheating so Cilla wasn't the 1st to cheat.

2nd Child Bride isn't written by Priscilla, I know she wrote the book Elvis and Me, but didn't someone else right Child Bride?


Anyways, I don't think she wanted to change Elvis completely , she just wanted him to quit the pill habits, those are addicting, and that is something that did lead to his downfall.


I just feel that Priscilla is getting so much blame, and I don't think she should be the bad person in this whole thing, you all think Elvis would want his fans to blame Priscilla, the love of his life? Which I do believe is true.


People will also say he was pushed into the marriage to Cilla, but I don't believe it, I think he truly loved her. I mean, he could have married Anita Wood(which was his girlfriend at one time)But Parker said it wouldn't be wise for that, so I really doubt Elvis was told to marry Cilla by his manager or anyone else, I think it was his decision only, and then I really do believe he loved her.


Also, Priscilla loved Elvis also, she just let him do a lot of things that most women nowadays wouldn't stand if their boyfriends\husbands did. She knew he cheated on her when they were together but she let that slide, she loved him deeply, but after a while that probably got old for her, she just wanted to have him, and be with Lisa thats all, I just don't understand how people can say she wanted to chang him, when in fact all she wanted from him was more time together with him and Lisa all together, and for him to stop taking those pills, thats all.


But lol I guess we will all see differently, I just feel people are putting her out as this monster and I don't see any of that at all, I just don't think (but I can't speak for him) that Elvis would want people to think or treat Priscilla like that, after all, she was his only wife, and the only woman(as far as I know) to give him a child, I guess I just figured there were more Elvis\Priscilla fans around, I like to find some of them, because I like to talk about that. I always like seeing pictures together of them, especially when they were happy :)

[hounddog]

no one really knows what happened in their marriage except Elvis and Priscilla. Elvis never told and Priscilla only told a certain amount.

I have no anger towards Priscilla.

[ajr]

Child Bride isn't written by Priscilla, I know she wrote the book Elvis and Me, but didn't someone else right Child Bride?


Someone else did write Child Bride. IF we're to believe what all these books say....'Cilla gave her permission to write the book; until she read it .
It's possible we do not know one thing about Elvis Presley or 'Cilla.
IF you read the Elvis books you'll see many contradictions from his supposed "friends". Which ones do we believe ?

Elvis and Me ;the book is very different from Elvis and Me ,the movie also.
Everyone gets to "pick" the story they most relate to, I guess.;)

I WILL say one thing in 'Cillas favor; IF she had not stepped in ,Graceland would NOT be here for Elvis' fans . For whatever reason; I give her credit for that. Anything else is debateable and your choice to believe what you want.
I'm a big believer in NOT arguing over anything I was not there to see personally.

[ajr]

Hi there,

With all due respect. Don't forget that "The Guys" where there well before Priscilla was in the picture. She knew the situation, her choice. She chose to try and change Elvis. No-one has the right to try and change anyone.

Have a great day!

Jess

I do know "the guys" were there first. You'll get no disagreement from me.
While 'Cilla was very young; she'd lived in that situation for years before getting married. She could/should have chosen better.
"Either live with it; or move on !!" ;)

[bittersuite]

I don't know how many of you have been to Graceland but from all the things I've heard, it was Priscilla who saved Graceland from going under. Only for Priscilla's business mind at the time, we might not have a Graceland to visit today and I think a lot of fans should remember this when they are giving out about her.

[poormansgold]

you Right Bittersuite, Priscilla saved graceland going down, went Elvis die, he had 3 millions left in his checking acct.. after 1979the epe had nothing all.
I read this in one book , what save graceland is the stuff in it and his cars Etc. for one year, we know why they open gracleand for Tours, every year it's grow big tours,
Tom

[bittersuite]

No matter what people think of Priscilla, you can't forget what she did for Graceland. I for one am very thankful to her for doing that.

[srj1967]

Yes, she saved Graceland. She deserves credit for that.

But aside from that, I always believed her to be a star-struck leech.

Elvis left her nothing in the will, and - like a lot of people - I hate the fact she went back to using the Presley name in the 70s when things didn't work out for her as Elvis' ex-wife, and a Beaulieu.

She loved the celebrity lifestyle as much as she "loved" Elvis. I think Elvis may have loved her, but he was never "in love" with her. And there's a huge difference between the two.

I also believe Elvis was partially railroaded by her and her family, the Colonel, Vernon etc into getting married. I think that, in the latter part of the sixties, he would've just wished for her to go away. Sonny West told me exactly the same thing, as have others in the Elvis circle.

Yes, she had to deal with the Mafia, the weird lifestyle etc, but she knew what she was getting herself in for. And as for cheating, she says in her book that she thinks she was the one who cheated first after they were married (with an unnamed guy prior to Mike Stone).

Today - aside from being a truly hideous example of plastic surgery gone wrong - I think she whitewashes her time with Elvis, and plays the martyr and victim too much.

I wouldn't cross the street to meet her, or that brat Lisa Marie either.

[Mr.Aron77]

Well said SRJ

She also head neck and tail involved in Scientology, a weird cult which she pays a percentage of her income to.

As for Elvis going and pouring out his problems to Priscilla? I'm guessing Priscilla wrote that! Elvis didn't let Priscilla on his plane when she asked for the use of it a few months before he died.

I don't buy into any of this victim nonsense about Priscilla.

I will giver her credit for being good at manipulating people and making money.

[ajr]

Vernon left her & the bankers/attorneys in charge when he died. I was very surprised. Maybe he thought she would "save it" for Lisa. Hard to say.

IF Lisa's guardian {in charge of Lisa's interests as a child} had not gone to court to get Col.Parker out of there; he'd still have been sucking EP & Graceland dry until the day he died. {That's all in court records}

'Cilla was dating a man from K.C. Mo. who was killed in a plane crash. When she went there; she met the man she "put in charge" of turning Graceland into the money maker it is today. So, I'm not sure how business smart she was ....only that she was lucky enough to find the man that could do it. I don't like him either .....;) but, I appreciate the fact he didn't let Graceland go.

As for Lisa; she & her mother didn't get along for many years . Some of the things I've read about 'Cilla and her "lack of being a mother" has influenced my opinion about her & Lisa both. You can read it for yourselves to form your own opinions.
While I empathise with Lisa as a child; she's since grown to adulthood.
It's time to "grow up" , get some psychiatric help & dump scientology ,IMO. ;)

[Dovey]

What I find really Intriging about your post Dee... is that it is only your "3rd" post on TBC and golly gee.... it is not on Elvis at All.

Welcome to the site... hope you enjoy it here... there are many fine people here... Dovey :D :hug:

[Dovey]

Opps, I stand corrected here... I notice that all three of your posts are on the same thing... :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: Dovey;)

[Mr.Aron77]

Vernon left her & the bankers/attorneys in charge when he died. I was very surprised. Maybe he thought she would "save it" for Lisa. Hard to say.

IF Lisa's guardian {in charge of Lisa's interests as a child} had not gone to court to get Col.Parker out of there; he'd still have been sucking EP & Graceland dry until the day he died. {That's all in court records}

'Cilla was dating a man from K.C. Mo. who was killed in a plane crash. When she went there; she met the man she "put in charge" of turning Graceland into the money maker it is today. So, I'm not sure how business smart she was ....only that she was lucky enough to find the man that could do it. I don't like him either .....;) but, I appreciate the fact he didn't let Graceland go.

As for Lisa; she & her mother didn't get along for many years . Some of the things I've read about 'Cilla and her "lack of being a mother" has influenced my opinion about her & Lisa both. You can read it for yourselves to form your own opinions.
While I empathise with Lisa as a child; she's since grown to adulthood.
It's time to "grow up" , get some psychiatric help & dump scientology ,IMO. ;)


AJR there Scientologists they can't get psychiatric help....it's evil!

[ForeverTheKing]

Yes, she saved Graceland. She deserves credit for that.

But aside from that, I always believed her to be a star-struck leech.

Elvis left her nothing in the will, and - like a lot of people - I hate the fact she went back to using the Presley name in the 70s when things didn't work out for her as Elvis' ex-wife, and a Beaulieu.

She loved the celebrity lifestyle as much as she "loved" Elvis. I think Elvis may have loved her, but he was never "in love" with her. And there's a huge difference between the two.

I also believe Elvis was partially railroaded by her and her family, the Colonel, Vernon etc into getting married. I think that, in the latter part of the sixties, he would've just wished for her to go away. Sonny West told me exactly the same thing, as have others in the Elvis circle.

Yes, she had to deal with the Mafia, the weird lifestyle etc, but she knew what she was getting herself in for. And as for cheating, she says in her book that she thinks she was the one who cheated first after they were married (with an unnamed guy prior to Mike Stone).

Today - aside from being a truly hideous example of plastic surgery gone wrong - I think she whitewashes her time with Elvis, and plays the martyr and victim too much.

I wouldn't cross the street to meet her, or that brat Lisa Marie either.

Totally agree :lol: (y)

[presley]

pricilla played a big part in elvis life, so how mad and upset elvis fans get, you all to keep in mind, that how much complaining goes on about priscilla she will always be in elvis life like it or not she's not going anywhere!

[Mr.Aron77]

True.

Hence the apt description of her being leech like!

[vulcandude]

Hi Dee13, welcome to TCB. As for Elvis and Priscilla, I believe they were meant for each other, but because Elvis wasn't the "marrying kind" so to speak, they were doomed from the start. Elvis wanted and needed the attention from more than just one person, especially girls, which is why the Memphis Mafia were always keeping their eyes out for what would interest Elvis. Also, Elvis craved the attention he got from the guys as well, not to mention he fed off of the love he felt from audiences when he performed. Elvis and Priscilla are the perfectly written Greek tragedy.....perfect for each other but doomed not to be together in the end. She is a sweet and wonderful woman, (as is Lisa), and I'm lucky to know her. I believe she loves Elvis to this day, thus why she never re-married. This would also be the case for Elvis.....sure he was engaged to Ginger Alden, but I don't see him as actually having gotten married to her. His heart was and forever always would be Priscilla's. And I think that's as it should be.:D

[Mr.Aron77]

I disagree.

I think Elvis loved Priscilla but crucially wasn't in love with her.

I also think she like to portray the widow image, thus no re-marriage.

I think Elvis needed a southern girl, and he also needed someone who could turn a blind eye to his wandering ways, much like Tom Jones's wife does.

Elvis left Priscilla out of his will, and denied her the use of the Lisa Marie a few months before he died. That doesent strike me as someone who's heart was favouring Priscilla.

Besides she gives thousands of dollars to Scientology every year, something Elvis hated and it's money that Elvis obviously didn't want Priscilla to have off of the estate, as he left her out of his will.

Ginger Alden probabaly woulden't of been right for Elvis, she was too young and had different interests.

[jadedragon61]

I wouldn't cross the street to meet her, or that brat Lisa Marie either.

Just a comment, here among fellow Elvis fans:

I think we should show a decent amount of respect to EP's family, as this is certainly what he would have wanted. Even if I may totally dislike and/or disagree with a certain EP family member, dead or alive, I personally take it as my obligation to treat those people - while objectively - still with a certain amount of courtesy.

Just a thought among friends.

TCB
Bob

[Mr.Aron77]

I don't think we should be obliged to do anything.

Elvis wanted to take drugs, I don't agree he should and I don't feel obliged to sugar coat the fact either.

[presley]

I have to agree with you!

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

The countdown is on 99......98.......97.......96.......95............. ....................:P

[lawdy_missclawdy]

I absolutely agree with everything you said, Dee!

[Dee13]

I really don't like starting stuff, but I feel that Priscilla is a good woman. Despite what some people think of her, Elvis did like her for who she was at times. I mean she was the only person who truly knew of how Elvis felt and his thoughts, he opened up to her about his life, how he felt when she was 14 years old.

I still think Cilla is a good person, and I do believe she still loves Elvis, I mean he really was the first man she ever truly loved, but I don't want anyone mad in this thread, thats why I didn't want to ask this but I did


Did you all view the video that someone made dedicated to Elvis, its so beautiful everytime I watch it I get teary.

[presley]

Yes l did get a chance to see it, and you right it brings tears to your eyes.
Everybody has there own thoughts about priscilla and elvis, but don't worry about who going to get mad or upset, there are always going to be peope that disagree and agree, but that what makes forums a happening place, a place to for people to voice there feelings or concerns about things.

[bittersuite]

I do agree that no matter what we are talking about, everyone should be entitled to their own opinion and people should respect it even if they don't always agree with it.

[Unchained Melody]

Well i thank her for saving Graceland, but other than that, I don't really care that much for her..The pictures i've seen of Elvis and her together, they both looked so happy and in love for the most part...but we all know how it ended...and i think thats what really killed Elvis, loosing his family:'( .

[Awickedreigndrop]

Hi there,

She chose to try and change Elvis. No-one has the right to try and change anyone.

Have a great day!

Jess

First of all welcome Dee13!!! :clap: :clap:

Secondly, I have to agree with you Jess. I once heard something pertaining to what you have said in a song by No Doubt called, "Ex-girlfriend". In it there's this line that says, "I find myself trying to change you, If you were meant to be my lover I wouldn't have to."

If you were meant to be with someone they should fit you like a glove. Neither one of the people in the relationship should have to change in order for the relationship to work. It's like, "Take me for who I am!"

I said what I have to w/o bashing anyone! :clap: Yay me!!! :lmfao:

[Merry]

Hi there,

Hi AWickedReignDrop,

Beautifully said.

Yah you! lol

Jess

[Donut]

Why are people so grateful of her "saving" Graceland ? It?s not like it was going to be demolished or something like that... remember Graceland is just a museum since Elvis?remaining family passed away and sure would be open to the public if they had sold it just like Elvis?birthplace or Audobon drive was.
Let?s be a little realists.

[SANDRA BARBER]

(n)
It seems I find so many people who seems to hate Cilla, and I read why, and its just astounds me

I always loved Elvis and Priscilla as a couple, loved Cilla and Elvis separately also, and I just don't get this hate people have for Priscilla.



Also, even though Elvis cheated and did a lot of mean things to Cilla, I still think Elvis loved Cilla with all his heart and she loved him back.


After the divorce didn't he still go to Cilla and talk about his problems and wasn't she always there for him?

I just don't understand how people seem to think Priscilla is the bad woman, and yes she still has his name, whats wrong with that? She never married the man she is with today, so I don't see no problem in that.


Maybe, she wants to keep something of Elvis to her heart and thats why she has the last name I dunno, but I do believed that was her True Love, and she really wanted him to change, before the divorce she did ask him to go away on vacation spend time with her and Lisa, she desperately did try to save the marriage but he just wasn't interested at that time.


I don't think Priscilla is a victim thats not what I'm saying, but Elvis loved her, and I believe that love was very strong at one point.


I still think that song You Are Always on my Mind was for Cilla, maybe I'm wrong but yeah, I am sorry, I am new to this board, so I may get some backlash on the Cilla haters, but I admire her for being a strong woman, she was with Elvis a long time since she was a young teenage girl, and I don't think she was after him for anything other then him and the love she felt for him.


I like Lisa also, and Lisa loves her mom, I don't get why there is so much hate for Priscilla, I just adored Elvis with her, and whats sad is he realized way to late that they should have tried to save the marriage, thats whats more sad.


I still think after the divorce Elvis loved Priscilla and if she came back to him he would have got back together with her in a heartbeat, maybe I'm wrong on that but I think its true.


Priscilla was the one person Elvis Truly confided all his fears, thoughts and opinions, and personal stuff to, and she stood by his side through a lot of crap, she tried to help him get off the pills, but he didn't. But anyways, I am a Elvis fan, a Priscilla fan, a Lisa fan, and a Elvis & Priscilla fan, and I will always be.


Anyways, I just wanted to post my thoughts on this, sometimes when you see interviews of Priscilla and she talks of Elvis or someone asks her something you definitely do see a sadness in her eyes, but I am sorry for going on and on about this lol.



I just think things could have been different if Elvis decided to do what Cilla asked and they got away and spent time together with Lisa, maybe they would have stayed together, maybe Elvis wouldn't have let his health go real bad, and maybe just maybe he may still be alive today, but thats a big theory but sometimes you just wonder you know :)



Rest in Peace Elvis we miss you!


Anyone here the song Bill Medley sang for Elvis, Old Friend? Omg its beautiful, and sad its on Youtube I will post the link if its okay :)



http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3J7zDwQ3VI
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SO SAD YOU KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT PRISCILLA. IF YOU KNEW ANY FACTS ABOUT HER AT ALL, YOU WOULDN'T COMMENT AS YOU HAVE. (n)

[Diane]

This is definitely not a pro Elvis thread.........:hmm:

[ajr]

Why are people so grateful of her "saving" Graceland ? It?s not like it was going to be demolished or something like that... remember Graceland is just a museum since Elvis?remaining family passed away and sure would be open to the public if they had sold it just like Elvis?birthplace or Audobon drive was.
Let?s be a little realists.

It was NOT a museum then. Just an old house, with old people living in it with no money for anything, much less "the upkeep" on such a place.
In fact it couldn't have been sold then; NOT until the graves were moved.
Elvis may be a "big deal" now.......but you have no idea how it was in the early '80's. A few fans came on the death anniversary ,but nothing like now. Nor did anyone have any income from anyplace.
It was just "made a museum "this past year ......and Tupelo is fairly new to opening it up to Elvis fans. Check your history .

Think about it .;)

[Donut]

It was NOT a museum then. Just an old house, with old people living in it with no money for anything, much less "the upkeep" on such a place.
In fact it couldn't have been sold then; NOT until the graves were moved.
Elvis may be a "big deal" now.......but you have no idea how it was in the early '80's. A few fans came on the death anniversary ,but nothing like now. Nor did anyone have any income from anyplace.
It was just "made a museum "this past year ......and Tupelo is fairly new to opening it up to Elvis fans. Check your history .

Think about it .;)
Yeah...What do you mean with that ? That Priscilla invented tour houses? I don´t care if Tupelo has opened now or 30 years ago, the thing is opened for tours and Graceland sure would be too. Or maybe you are telling me Elvis owns his popularity to Priscilla because he wasn´t a big deal for you in the eighties... check your history too.

[riley]

Just wondering.

While Elvis was still alive was Tupelo alreaddy a stop by for tourists too.

Was the little house alreaddy open for public. Did he ever visit the house again with Lisa??????


Who knows????

[G-Man]

Hey DEE 13 i really liked that video you posted about Old Friend thank's i am a big Elvis fan i never hated Pricilla just like some of the other fan's on here i didn't really care for her alot but i never hated her i liked when her and Elvis were together in their happy years i do like Lisa-Marie alot though and welcome Dee 13 take care.

Elvis Rocks!!!!!!!!! :)

[srj1967]

Just wondering.

While Elvis was still alive was Tupelo already a stop by for tourists too.

Was the little house already open for public. Did he ever visit the house again with Lisa??????


Who knows????

As far as I know, he went back to Tupelo a few times in the sixties, but it was always a secret thing, with no publicity. Apparently, his last visit was a few months before he died. Don't know if he went to the house, though it's a reasonable bet he may have done so.

[JDD]

I disagree.

Besides she gives thousands of dollars to Scientology every year, something Elvis hated and it's money that Elvis obviously didn't want Priscilla to have off of the estate, as he left her out of his will.



Not to Hijack the thread or anything but I've seen this statement from the now Banned member 03...... more then once. At least twice now I've asked where that Information came from with No reply. So I'll ask you, I'm not saying anyone is telling a lie, I'm just looking for Information. I've read Dozens of Elvis books, heard nearly every interview he's given (not that, that was hard given he gave very few), and I've never seen a direct quote from Elvis saying he hated Scientology which was barely even heard of in those days.That said, since you brought it up, what makes you think Elvis Hated Scientology? I'd be surprised if he ever gave it more then a passing thought if he heard of it at all.

[meg]

Not to Hijack the thread or anything but I've seen this statement from the now Banned member 03...... more then once. At least twice now I've asked where that Information came from with No reply. So I'll ask you, I'm not saying anyone is telling a lie, I'm just looking for Information. I've read Dozens of Elvis books, heard nearly every interview he's given (not that, that was hard given he gave very few), and I've never seen a direct quote from Elvis saying he hated Scientology which was barely even heard of in those days.That said, since you brought it up, what makes you think Elvis Hated Scientology? I'd be surprised if he ever gave it more then a passing thought if he heard of it at all.

The one teachings Elvis had absolutely no use or faith in was
Scientology. He abhored it. He had a few dates with Peggy Lipton who
was on Mod Squad, she was into Scientology and she tried to talk Elvis
into becoming involved with it. He told her if she continued to talk
with him about it, he would stop dating her. She continued to try to
convert him and he never dated her again.

[ajr]

Yeah...What do you mean with that ? That Priscilla invented houses tours ? I don?t care if Tupelo has opened now or 30 years ago, the thing is opened for tours and Graceland sure would be too. Or maybe you are telling me Elvis owns his popularity to Priscilla because he wasn?t a big deal for you in the eighties... check your history too.

I didn't mean to be smart, just informative. Of course, 'Cilla had nothing to do with Elvis' popularity. He was popular long before she came along...and long after she was gone.
There was just no one that took it on to do something like that to make Graceland support itself. Just trying to say; IF someone had not given her the idea to make Graceland a paying proposition; it might have been lost to everyone after Vernon, Minnie & the aunt died. It was up to Lisa {who was too young} & the executors of the estate.

[ajr]

Not to Hijack the thread or anything but I've seen this statement from the now Banned member 03...... more then once. At least twice now I've asked where that Information came from with No reply. So I'll ask you, I'm not saying anyone is telling a lie, I'm just looking for Information. I've read Dozens of Elvis books, heard nearly every interview he's given (not that, that was hard given he gave very few), and I've never seen a direct quote from Elvis saying he hated Scientology which was barely even heard of in those days.That said, since you brought it up, what makes you think Elvis Hated Scientology? I'd be surprised if he ever gave it more then a passing thought if he heard of it at all.

According to Lamar & others in the MM .

http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/presley_p.htm

[JDD]

According to Lamar & others in the MM .

http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/presley_p.htm



Thanks for the replies Meg and Ajr. I appreciate you replied as to what you heard, and even had a link to a quote. Its more then I've gotten in the past.

So nobody really has any direct quotes from Elvis himself on the topic I take it? Not that I'd automatically discount third hand information as much of its probably basically true. In this case, I can't really take Lamar Seriously, as its also known He hates Priscilla and has been cut out of the loop and locked off the gravy train. If Jerry Schilling or GK said it, I'd be more likely to take it at face value as they really have no axe to grinde with Elvis or Priscilla.

[CurlySusi]

I really liked the two of them together.......They were such a beautiful couple.....I guess she was his perfect match in every way.

I don't know why so many people hate her....In my opinion she did quite a lot for Elvis' legacy....

Certainly, after Elvis' death she grabbed Graceland and everything.

But why did she do that? - Because otherwise someone else would have managed it and I would not have trusted anyone of those guys either....mind that it was her daughter's heritage. So she sort of had a right to do it.

Others dislike her because of her affair with Mike Stone....well, I don't blame her for that for Elvis never had time for her and his daughter....He rather led a bachelor's life while Priscilla and Lisa had to wait for him to come home.....

Priscilla thought to get his attention by throwing herself into karate, but this didn't help either....so she had to look for someone else. I can fully understand that.

And although she might have known that she would never have Elvis for her own she was too young to know what that means and that he'll never change .
And I'm sorry that he didn't realize what he had until he lost it.

The only thing that militates against her is Scientology. I can definitely not understand why she's in there.

[Donut]

I didn't mean to be smart, just informative. Of course, 'Cilla had nothing to do with Elvis' popularity. He was popular long before she came along...and long after she was gone.
There was just no one that took it on to do something like that to make Graceland support itself. Just trying to say; IF someone had not given her the idea to make Graceland a paying proposition; it might have been lost to everyone after Vernon, Minnie & the aunt died. It was up to Lisa {who was too young} & the executors of the estate.

Ok ajr, thanks for clearing it that to me,I know what you mean but what I was trying to tell is she didn?t saved Graceland from anything it would be there with or without her. She thought about it as a business for her and I like to think for her daughter too and we forget that maybe they should thank Vernon for keeping it after Elvis died ... if I?m not wrong people were allowed to walk the grounds of Graceland to pay their respects to Elvis at his grave long time ago so the only idea she could have had is extend that to the first floor and charge for ticket admission. That worked ? Yes but any business people would be willing to do it too an there are plenty of examples around the world of houses of deceased famous people and they are still running.
That?s my opinion.

[ajr]

You're very right, Donut. People were allowed to walk right up to the grave. It's my understanding, legally, no admission could be charged for that. That's the law as to visiting gravesites and why time is set aside for anyone to be allowed to visit the grave.

And, never fear; it wasn't 'Cilla that got the idea to open Graceland....it was the guy she got from K.C. {jack Soden} that suggested it. I'm not fond of him either, but it worked . There are a lot of stories that Patsy Anderson told some of us about him.....

When people talk about 'Cilla, that's the only good thing I can come up with .....a friend of mine likes her too. So, I've tried to find something nice to say whenever it's brought up.

[Dee13]

I fear I shouldn't have posted my post, and the rest of my other threads were based on Elvis only. Also, I did NOT post anything mean or against Elvis in this thread so I don't understand why this is not a PRO Elvis thread. But if I do POST anymore at this board, I will post about Elvis only. But someone suggested another board where I can post where I don't get alot of backlash so , :lol my bad.

But I did post a video of Elvis for all of his fans to see , so I hope that helps.

Like I said I am a fan of Elvis, Cilla and Lisa, and will always be their fan!

[JDD]

I fear I shouldn't have posted my post, and the rest of my other threads were based on Elvis only. Also, I did NOT post anything mean or against Elvis in this thread so I don't understand why this is not a PRO Elvis thread. But if I do POST anymore at this board, I will post about Elvis only. But someone suggested another board where I can post where I don't get alot of backlash so , :lol my bad.

But I did post a video of Elvis for all of his fans to see , so I hope that helps.

Like I said I am a fan of Elvis, Cilla and Lisa, and will always be their fan!




To be honest Dee, IMO this is the most civil thread where Priscilla is involved that we've had in a long long time. You didn't do anything wrong. I'm actually pretty proud so far of how civil its been, I had given up hope that it could be done without someone here starting to hate someone else here.

[ajr]

I thought this was a nice, civil thread discussing Priscilla, myself. ;)
I've been other places that call her some pretty bad names & lots of fussing & fighting.

As I've said; I don't care for her, but more because of Lisa than Elvis. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion & should be able to express it.
I just try & stay out of the ones that like to fight. No problem, Dee 13 .
I have a daughter by your name & today is her birthday....(y)

[presley]

I thought this topic was quite calm considing the others were quite heated, but it all good when we can stay calm and listern to eachtogether without attacking. you carry on posting dee13.

[Unchained Melody]

This is definitely not a pro Elvis thread.........:hmm:

They're usually not when they are about Priscilla :lol: ;)

[vulcandude]

They're usually not when they are about Priscilla :lol: ;)Hopefully things won't get ugly this time around Brad......

[Mr.Aron77]

Thanks for the replies Meg and Ajr. I appreciate you replied as to what you heard, and even had a link to a quote. Its more then I've gotten in the past.

So nobody really has any direct quotes from Elvis himself on the topic I take it? Not that I'd automatically discount third hand information as much of its probably basically true. In this case, I can't really take Lamar Seriously, as its also known He hates Priscilla and has been cut out of the loop and locked off the gravy train. If Jerry Schilling or GK said it, I'd be more likely to take it at face value as they really have no axe to grinde with Elvis or Priscilla.

Schilling won't say anything as he's in bed with EPE. Klein will do or say anything if you pay him enough.........or..........he'll just make things up as he usually does, or more recently hijack stories and place himself in the centre of them.


Elvis disliked Scientology, it's a commonly known fact about Elvis and his beliefs. Plenty of people close to Elvis have said it.


People are often selective if what they choose to listen to or believe.....usually so it will correspond with their own beliefs.

[Dudcowboy_1]

I personally like Priscilla, she did a lot of good between the time of his death and the age when Lisa could take over the name and business. Do I agree with Lisa and Priscilla selling Music and Image of Elvis to SFX no but since then you see more and more Elvis music on Shows, ADs and etc. Which you hardly saw 10 years ago.

I believed in my mind Elvis really and truely loved Linda Thompson, I know you think I'm probley crazy but thats just me.

Elvis was open to all religions he always said he ware every kind of symbol on stage and off stage so if he died at lease one symbol would get him threw the gates. Elvis loved to learn and learn as much as he could.

God knows how much I love this man Elvis. God truely gave us 2nd mirical (1st being birth of Christ) when he put Elvis on here. This man sang and help a lot of people threw good and bad times in this life. We could always agree one thing ELVIS WAS KING OF ROCK AND ROLL...

[JDD]

Elvis disliked Scientology, it's a commonly known fact about Elvis and his beliefs. Plenty of people close to Elvis have said it.


People are often selective if what they choose to listen to or believe.....usually so it will correspond with their own beliefs.




Seems like its only The folks who are on the outs with Priscilla. IMO its Kinda hard to take them seriously on this topic. My own belief on the topic of that organization isn't for discussion here, but it can be summed up in short with, I don't believe in it.

Elvis opinion was what I was asking about, and if Lamar's word is the best we have then I guess I still don't have an answer, because my take on his word can also be summed up in short with "I don't believe in it" but thats just me. I think He (Lamar) has an Axe to grind. I'll take the word of the other two any day of the week over his. At this point I still gotta say I'd be pretty surprised if its ever shown conclusively one way or another that Elvis even Had an Opinion on Scientology. Maybe someday something, can show otherwise though.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Most of what we hear (90%) about Elvis is Myth, Legend and pure conjecture even though we cannot be 100% on Elvis' feelings on Scientology it's a fair assumption he wouldn't be happy about his income going straight to some cult like enterprise :supriced:

[Awickedreigndrop]

God knows how much I love this man Elvis. God truely gave us 2nd mirical (1st being birth of Christ) when he put Elvis on here. This man sang and help a lot of people threw good and bad times in this life. We could always agree one thing ELVIS WAS KING OF ROCK AND ROLL...

:'( This is the nicest thing I read EVER!!! :clap: :clap: You've got it right when you posted this one! :notworthy

[Mr.Aron77]

I personally like Priscilla, she did a lot of good between the time of his death and the age when Lisa could take over the name and business. Do I agree with Lisa and Priscilla selling Music and Image of Elvis to SFX no but since then you see more and more Elvis music on Shows, ADs and etc. Which you hardly saw 10 years ago.

I believed in my mind Elvis really and truely loved Linda Thompson, I know you think I'm probley crazy but thats just me.

Elvis was open to all religions he always said he ware every kind of symbol on stage and off stage so if he died at lease one symbol would get him threw the gates. Elvis loved to learn and learn as much as he could.

God knows how much I love this man Elvis. God truely gave us 2nd mirical (1st being birth of Christ) when he put Elvis on here. This man sang and help a lot of people threw good and bad times in this life. We could always agree one thing ELVIS WAS KING OF ROCK AND ROLL...


I have more trouble with what Priscilla did to Graceland's interior since he died than selling the rights to Sillerman. Selling the rights was a good idea, as it allows for expansion and investment.

For your information, Scientology is far from what what 'religions' should be. Scientology has a celebrity centre - what Religion promotes discrimination and social boundaries?

I am not exactly religious, but comparing Elvis to Christ in any way shape or form is not just disturbing, but it's down right wrong. While I may not believe in these things, Elvis did, and I know he was quite disturbed by people making comparisons. It seems Adulation knows no limits in this day and age!

[ajr]

This is an interview with 'Cilla . It covers a lot of things talked about on this site. One being that she joined Scientology in 1979 and why.
http://lisamarie.at.infoseek.co.jp/lisanews-1996LHJ.htm

There are many interviews of Elvis & his belief in spiritual things. IMO, nothing in scientology would have been of interest to him.
You can also read about what scientology is & isn't.
Just type in the name.

And, no. I can't believe that anyone should be compared to Christ; especially Elvis. In his own words he tells you: "I am just a man."
And he didn't like the title of The King. "there is only one King " quote by Elvis himself .

[Dudcowboy_1]

No I'm not comparing Elvis with Christ that's not even close I'm just saying Elvis came to us a the time when we need him and his music. He helped us threw Korean, and Vietnam Wars and so much more.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[srj1967]

He helped us threw Korean, and Vietnam Wars and so much more.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

The Korean War went from 1950 - 1953, so it's a safe bet Elvis' music never helped anyone around the world through that conflict.

[The King's Queen]

It is my personal belief that Elvis had little choice when it came to marrying Priscilla. He had to, I believe. None the less, I don't care for her at all. She was with him long enough to know the routine of Elvis' life, and yet she married him anyway. How could you marry Elvis and expect to have a "normal" lifestyle??? Please...! :nono: Elvis couldn't be normal...his explosive fame made that impossible. He was raised in an era where it was totally acceptable for the man to be the boss, and the woman to be supportive and submissive. Granted, not all women could live under those conditions. But let us keep in mind that she lived with him long enough, prior to marriage, to know exactly what she was stepping into! If she couldn't change things then, why would she expect to change them afterward?? Does not make sense to me....:hmm:

As for Graceland and her role in marketing it to the public...I think she wanted to secure things for herself and Lisa. I don't buy into the "she's the only woman Elvis ever truly loved" deal either...if that were true, he would have made provisions for her in his will. He didn't do that. I agree with the others who think she plays the victim too often. She has told the story of her life with him, and it is up to the reader to decide whether or not they believe her. I, personally, do not believe her. (n)

[Burning_Love]

I think Elvis, from the begining of his and Priscilla's relationship, promised he'd marry her. He probably didn't say it but he thought it. Elvis always kept his word. I believe the colnel told him to, i believe he was saying that Elvis can't have a girl living t his house with no committment and i think that her father had something to do with it, i mean she was 21 and had been living with Elvis since she as 17.

I also believe that Priscilla expected too much from Elvis, i mean, of course he would have been busy and his career was number one, she just couldn't except it.

I personally don't like her or what she has done to Graceland (re-decorated). But hey we all have opinions..If not we wouldn't be normal (y) :king:

[The King's Queen]

I think Elvis, from the begining of his and Priscilla's relationship, promised he'd marry her. He probably didn't say it but he thought it. Elvis always kept his word. I believe the colnel told him to, i believe he was saying that Elvis can't have a girl living t his house with no committment and i think that her father had something to do with it, i mean she was 21 and had been living with Elvis since she as 17.

I also believe that Priscilla expected too much from Elvis, i mean, of course he would have been busy and his career was number one, she just couldn't except it.

I personally don't like her or what she has done to Graceland (re-decorated). But hey we all have opinions..If not we wouldn't be normal (y) :king:

My friend, do you realize how accurately you summed up the whole situation? WELL DONE! :clap: Elvis was obligated, and told by both his father and the colonel that he had to marry her. There were circumstances.... And yes, she did expect too much from him. Funny how all of these expectations didn't surface until AFTER the vows were exchanged...hmmm, :hmm: wonder why?

I also agree with you about Graceland. She should have left everything exactly as it was. :mad: But as you said...that is only my opinion. And I am sure that others see it differently.

Elvisly-Yours....

[presley31]

I disagree with you buirning and the kings queen, but we all have different opinions.

[Burning_Love]

My friend, do you realize how accurately you summed up the whole situation? WELL DONE! :clap: Elvis was obligated, and told by both his father and the colonel that he had to marry her. There were circumstances.... And yes, she did expect too much from him. Funny how all of these expectations didn't surface until AFTER the vows were exchanged...hmmm, :hmm: wonder why?

I also agree with you about Graceland. She should have left everything exactly as it was. :mad: But as you said...that is only my opinion. And I am sure that others see it differently.

Elvisly-Yours....

Thanks (y):clap: Is it rarely on here, people agree with me :D

[TLC67]

It is my personal belief that Elvis had little choice when it came to marrying Priscilla. He had to, I believe. None the less, I don't care for her at all. She was with him long enough to know the routine of Elvis' life, and yet she married him anyway. How could you marry Elvis and expect to have a "normal" lifestyle??? Please...! :nono: Elvis couldn't be normal...his explosive fame made that impossible. He was raised in an era where it was totally acceptable for the man to be the boss, and the woman to be supportive and submissive. Granted, not all women could live under those conditions. But let us keep in mind that she lived with him long enough, prior to marriage, to know exactly what she was stepping into! If she couldn't change things then, why would she expect to change them afterward?? Does not make sense to me....:hmm:

As for Graceland and her role in marketing it to the public...I think she wanted to secure things for herself and Lisa. I don't buy into the "she's the only woman Elvis ever truly loved" deal either...if that were true, he would have made provisions for her in his will. He didn't do that. I agree with the others who think she plays the victim too often. She has told the story of her life with him, and it is up to the reader to decide whether or not they believe her. I, personally, do not believe her. (n)




(y) Great post! 100% correct!

[SweetCaroline]

I liked Priscilla a lot until she hurt a person that I have always dearly loved. It is hard for me to ever get over that and I will always be biased against her for the pain she caused ELVIS. :angry: Is that fair of me?...surely not...but....that's the way it is.

[presley31]

I think elvis and priscilla both hurt eachtogther, but in life that does happen. For the love of elvis and lisa l won't say a bad thing about priscilla, elvis loved her till the end.

[Supertigre]

I like the way Elvis was happy when piriscilla was around.

[SweetCaroline]

I like the way Elvis was happy when piriscilla was around.


I liked her when she was making ELVIS happy, too.:D

[cbg84]

I love them together. I strongly believe that they truly loved each other and did until he died. And I also believe she still loves him today.

[blueberry]

Yes, she saved Graceland. She deserves credit for that.

But aside from that, I always believed her to be a star-struck leech.

Elvis left her nothing in the will, and - like a lot of people - I hate the fact she went back to using the Presley name in the 70s when things didn't work out for her as Elvis' ex-wife, and a Beaulieu.

She loved the celebrity lifestyle as much as she "loved" Elvis. I think Elvis may have loved her, but he was never "in love" with her. And there's a huge difference between the two.

I also believe Elvis was partially railroaded by her and her family, the Colonel, Vernon etc into getting married. I think that, in the latter part of the sixties, he would've just wished for her to go away. Sonny West told me exactly the same thing, as have others in the Elvis circle.

Yes, she had to deal with the Mafia, the weird lifestyle etc, but she knew what she was getting herself in for. And as for cheating, she says in her book that she thinks she was the one who cheated first after they were married (with an unnamed guy prior to Mike Stone).

Today - aside from being a truly hideous example of plastic surgery gone wrong - I think she whitewashes her time with Elvis, and plays the martyr and victim too much.

I wouldn't cross the street to meet her, or that brat Lisa Marie either.

Srj is completelt right ! Priscilla was the first who began cheating ; she has said so herself :
"Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him. Elvis was a loving, sincere man who respected his home and family. His career took him away from us and being so young and naive I thought wrongly that he just didn’t care anymore. Had I known then what I do now about this business, I would have been more patient, more able to help him."

~ Priscilla Presley, from a California local TV show in 1987

[MojoElvis]

This fact about cheating must have been after the marriage. That gives me more reasons not to like her if that was what they agreed on. After marriage no more other women for Elvis unless Elvis is taking pictures of Cilla with another woman.

No I don't like her at all. I'm thankful for the birth of Lisa Marie and her getting control over the estate cause she had all his movies released on VHS and opened Graceland as a museum.
I hate the way her and parents conned Elvis.

[MissyM]

Elvis never promised to marry her when he brought her to Graceland!! He did so that she could finish her education in the states and date him and see where the relationship would go. Period. Elvis would never promise to marry someone when he was dating other women. Why do you think it took him so long to marry her. She even says they were content to live just like they were. Doesn't mean he didn't love her. Lots of people love each other and lived togeather. He also questioned weather the relationship was going to last forever. Did that mean he didn't (at some point as the relationship grew) hope it would.
I think each of them were looking for something and thought maybe they found that in each other. For her it was a father figure and for him it was a mother figure. And there was some infatuation..which we all know fades. Infatatuation grew from there into a romance. Sometimes people can meet each others needs they have at a point in the relationship but when that need no longer exists, what you have left is just this person who you begin to fall apart from. That's because what once drew you togeather no longer is the foundation of the connection.
Nothing holds up well under a weak foundation. It's hard to be in love with someone once the rose colored glasses come off and you see the person with all their faults and flaws. (and the realities of the life you are embracing with them)
With the divorce rate being what it is, ya have to know it happens a lot.
It takes a strong foundation, to make a relationship last a life time. With out it, you will never be able to weather the storms, struggles and the things that tick you off about the person.
Elvis was the kind of person who didn't hold grudges and continually tried to forgive and since he did, wanted the same in return. Fussing and fighting and hanging in there in a relationship was something he had known his whole life. And I will tell you, he hated divorce.
But Priscilla was so different than him. She was more worldly and modern. The more she hung around in California, the more she was influenced by the new age of women. She adapted, he never did. He was still this guy who lived in the mind set of the old southern ways.
How in the heck was that relationship ever going to survive. This served to chip away at the foundation that was weak in the first place.
Believe me, those old southern ideas were a real adjustment for me in my marriage. And it took a lot of work and communication to weather those differences. Sometimes people folishly continue in the relationship hoping it will magically work out anyway. And Elvis felt he didn't have a choice. So once again, he decided to hope for the best and take responsibility for his mistakes. Or what he thought was one. Believe what you want, he thought she was already pregnant.
So then the child and what love that they had became their foundation for their relationship. For him, it was enough, for her it wasn't. It was all about how he never changed, and who she became.
And no weak love she had for him by this time or baby was going to make her happy. And why should it when she could have what she wanted with out him. She could have a regular male/female relationship, money, very glamorous life in California and find a man who was not like Elvis and all the things that she didn't like about him and the independance she needed. She could go to Cali and pursue a modeling career and make her new dreams come true. For her the grass was much greener on the other side. For him, life with out her and Lisa was not. I firmly believe he would have been content to stay married the way it was forever. No I know it, he would have never divorced her untill she made it impossible for him to allow it and he had no other choice.
Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories, and the good things she loved about him. He was wonderful in many ways. Did he still love her, in some ways too but mostly because Elvis was one that once he loved, he loved no matter what.

[shelley.m.]

Who cheated on whom? It takes two to tango! Of course everyone is going to point their fingers at Priscilla first and say poor Elvis but Elvis had a wander eye to don't forget.

[utmom2008]

Priscilla was the first who began cheating ; she has said so herself :
"Elvis was faithful to me during our marriage. I cheated on him. He passed a lie detector test and until he learned of my indiscretions, Elvis never cheated. Only after I left him. Elvis was a loving, sincere man who respected his home and family. His career took him away from us and being so young and naive I thought wrongly that he just didn’t care anymore. Had I known then what I do now about this business, I would have been more patient, more able to help him."

~ Priscilla Presley, from a California local TV show in 1987


Who cheated on whom? It takes two to tango! Of course everyone is going to point their fingers at Priscilla first and say poor Elvis but Elvis had a wander eye to don't forget.

No one is saying that Elvis didn't cheat. We are saying that Priscilla says she cheated first.

[presley31]

don't think it really matters who cheated first, not like it changes anything.

[ehollier]

They made a very beautiful couple and Elvis appeared, from all of his professional accomplishments in the studio and stage, to be very happy, motivated and stimulated. Priscilla was, by all accounts a very beautiful woman, much more so than any of the other women that he was intimate with before or after his marriage. There aren't many that will argue Elvis' beauty wasn't perfect. Very few other entertainers/actors can compare to his magnificent good looks.

Whether or not he pinned away for Priscilla after she left him or it was only his enormous ego that was wounded, it was blantantly apparent to even the casual observer that he was not the same in 1972 as he was from only months prior to his Vegas appearance in 1971 and previous seasons going all the way back to his '68 Comeback.

This was so obvious in the choices of his music and physical deterioration which was aided by the increase in his medications. Whether she was "the love of his life" or something less idealistic, Priscilla obviously provided Elvis with something that gave him the self-assurance and support that Elvis and ELVIS evidently needed and was severely lacking after her departure, even with the parade of women that came and went in her wake.

[Teddy]

No one is saying that Elvis didn't cheat. We are saying that Priscilla says she cheated first.

After the wedding. Marriage doesn't make the past go up in smoke (although I regularly meet people who appear to be banking on it).

I don't understand why we always have to evaluate Priscilla's approach to her relationship with Elvis based upon what happened during their (relatively very short) marriage at the exclusion of the years which preceded it.
Her decisions, however questionable, were influenced by the entirety of their time together, irrespective of any sanctity afforded to the period which elapsed after May 1st 1967.

[utmom2008]

Priscilla was, by all accounts a very beautiful woman, much more so than any of the other women that he was intimate with before or after his marriage.

With all due respect Liz...that is completely a matter of opinion.:blink::blink:

[Broussey]

Elvis never promised to marry her when he brought her to Graceland!! He did so that she could finish her education in the states and date him and see where the relationship would go. Period. Elvis would never promise to marry someone when he was dating other women. Why do you think it took him so long to marry her. She even says they were content to live just like they were. Doesn't mean he didn't love her. Lots of people love each other and lived togeather. He also questioned weather the relationship was going to last forever. Did that mean he didn't (at some point as the relationship grew) hope it would.
I think each of them were looking for something and thought maybe they found that in each other. For her it was a father figure and for him it was a mother figure. And there was some infatuation..which we all know fades. Infatatuation grew from there into a romance. Sometimes people can meet each others needs they have at a point in the relationship but when that need no longer exists, what you have left is just this person who you begin to fall apart from. That's because what once drew you togeather no longer is the foundation of the connection.
Nothing holds up well under a weak foundation. It's hard to be in love with someone once the rose colored glasses come off and you see the person with all their faults and flaws. (and the realities of the life you are embracing with them)
With the divorce rate being what it is, ya have to know it happens a lot.
It takes a strong foundation, to make a relationship last a life time. With out it, you will never be able to weather the storms, struggles and the things that tick you off about the person.
Elvis was the kind of person who didn't hold grudges and continually tried to forgive and since he did, wanted the same in return. Fussing and fighting and hanging in there in a relationship was something he had known his whole life. And I will tell you, he hated divorce.
But Priscilla was so different than him. She was more worldly and modern. The more she hung around in California, the more she was influenced by the new age of women. She adapted, he never did. He was still this guy who lived in the mind set of the old southern ways.
How in the heck was that relationship ever going to survive. This served to chip away at the foundation that was weak in the first place.
Believe me, those old southern ideas were a real adjustment for me in my marriage. And it took a lot of work and communication to weather those differences. Sometimes people folishly continue in the relationship hoping it will magically work out anyway. And Elvis felt he didn't have a choice. So once again, he decided to hope for the best and take responsibility for his mistakes. Or what he thought was one. Believe what you want, he thought she was already pregnant.
So then the child and what love that they had became their foundation for their relationship. For him, it was enough, for her it wasn't. It was all about how he never changed, and who she became.
And no weak love she had for him by this time or baby was going to make her happy. And why should it when she could have what she wanted with out him. She could have a regular male/female relationship, money, very glamorous life in California and find a man who was not like Elvis and all the things that she didn't like about him and the independance she needed. She could go to Cali and pursue a modeling career and make her new dreams come true. For her the grass was much greener on the other side. For him, life with out her and Lisa was not. I firmly believe he would have been content to stay married the way it was forever. No I know it, he would have never divorced her untill she made it impossible for him to allow it and he had no other choice.
Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories, and the good things she loved about him. He was wonderful in many ways. Did he still love her, in some ways too but mostly because Elvis was one that once he loved, he loved no matter what.





I really enjoyed reading this!!!!! You make alot of sense!!! I just think they grew apart ...

[MojoElvis]

No I hate Elvis and Priscilla together. Call it love, I call it, Obsession with a very pretty woman & hating to have her taken by a man he introduced her too. Also having old fashion values when it comes to having a family at home. Priscilla was not even close to Gladys' standards. Look at how Elvis turned out. He got everything he had by working hard and all Cilla did was con him.

[utmom2008]

After the wedding. Marriage doesn't make the past go up in smoke (although I regularly meet people who appear to be banking on it).



:supriced::supriced: Speaking of, I am nearly out. Time to run to the store.:lol::lol:

[SweetCaroline]

Elvis never promised to marry her when he brought her to Graceland!! He did so that she could finish her education in the states and date him and see where the relationship would go. Period. Elvis would never promise to marry someone when he was dating other women. Why do you think it took him so long to marry her. She even says they were content to live just like they were. Doesn't mean he didn't love her. Lots of people love each other and lived togeather. He also questioned weather the relationship was going to last forever. Did that mean he didn't (at some point as the relationship grew) hope it would.
I think each of them were looking for something and thought maybe they found that in each other. For her it was a father figure and for him it was a mother figure. And there was some infatuation..which we all know fades. Infatatuation grew from there into a romance. Sometimes people can meet each others needs they have at a point in the relationship but when that need no longer exists, what you have left is just this person who you begin to fall apart from. That's because what once drew you togeather no longer is the foundation of the connection.
Nothing holds up well under a weak foundation. It's hard to be in love with someone once the rose colored glasses come off and you see the person with all their faults and flaws. (and the realities of the life you are embracing with them)
With the divorce rate being what it is, ya have to know it happens a lot.
It takes a strong foundation, to make a relationship last a life time. With out it, you will never be able to weather the storms, struggles and the things that tick you off about the person.
Elvis was the kind of person who didn't hold grudges and continually tried to forgive and since he did, wanted the same in return. Fussing and fighting and hanging in there in a relationship was something he had known his whole life. And I will tell you, he hated divorce.
But Priscilla was so different than him. She was more worldly and modern. The more she hung around in California, the more she was influenced by the new age of women. She adapted, he never did. He was still this guy who lived in the mind set of the old southern ways.
How in the heck was that relationship ever going to survive. This served to chip away at the foundation that was weak in the first place.
Believe me, those old southern ideas were a real adjustment for me in my marriage. And it took a lot of work and communication to weather those differences. Sometimes people folishly continue in the relationship hoping it will magically work out anyway. And Elvis felt he didn't have a choice. So once again, he decided to hope for the best and take responsibility for his mistakes. Or what he thought was one. Believe what you want, he thought she was already pregnant.
So then the child and what love that they had became their foundation for their relationship. For him, it was enough, for her it wasn't. It was all about how he never changed, and who she became.
And no weak love she had for him by this time or baby was going to make her happy. And why should it when she could have what she wanted with out him. She could have a regular male/female relationship, money, very glamorous life in California and find a man who was not like Elvis and all the things that she didn't like about him and the independance she needed. She could go to Cali and pursue a modeling career and make her new dreams come true. For her the grass was much greener on the other side. For him, life with out her and Lisa was not. I firmly believe he would have been content to stay married the way it was forever. No I know it, he would have never divorced her untill she made it impossible for him to allow it and he had no other choice.
Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories, and the good things she loved about him. He was wonderful in many ways. Did he still love her, in some ways too but mostly because Elvis was one that once he loved, he loved no matter what.

Good post, Missy. I enjoyed reading your take on things. I think Elvis would have stuck it out, too. Heavens knows there is no way to prove it. Just a gut feelings on the man he seemed to be. It seems he was like his Mom and Dad in that regard. Marriage was "forever" because of the upbringing. That is why he took the failure of the marriage to heart.

[Erhan]

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[riley]

truly enjoyed every word of your post MissyM. Like I always do:notworthy:notworthy

[MissyM]

Well, thanks. I know Elvis would have never divorced her as he hated divorce. There is something I wish I could tell you to prove it but it involves the finances of people in the family so I can't.
But I do think also that Elvis did try to change in someways. She wanted to be in California. They did buy houses and spend more time there. He did try to give her everything materialistic that she wanted.
He just could not give more of himself I think. He could only change so much. I'm sure he wished he could have. It's sad to think that you can only go so far for someone you love.
Perhaps she felt the same way. But I firmly believe that she changed the game, and he didn't except for the drugs. But that alone would have been a huge factor in itself.
I guess I just wish that if she could not adapt, she would have left and not thrown it in his face how happy she was with out him.
And I honestly think in my heart she did in her first interveiws. I know for a man that must have been a hard blow. People say mostly it was his ego that was hurt. Well of course it was. But I don't think there is anything wrong. Ego's are fragile. Elvis had a very insecure side to him. He often knew he couldn't give more of himself or as much as he wanted. This is why he was so generous. And we all as fans have the luxury of him wanting to give so much of himself, in the one way he knew he could. Through his art.

[franny]

Elvis never promised to marry her when he brought her to Graceland!! He did so that she could finish her education in the states and date him and see where the relationship would go. Period. Elvis would never promise to marry someone when he was dating other women. Why do you think it took him so long to marry her. She even says they were content to live just like they were. Doesn't mean he didn't love her. Lots of people love each other and lived togeather. He also questioned weather the relationship was going to last forever. Did that mean he didn't (at some point as the relationship grew) hope it would.
I think each of them were looking for something and thought maybe they found that in each other. For her it was a father figure and for him it was a mother figure. And there was some infatuation..which we all know fades. Infatatuation grew from there into a romance. Sometimes people can meet each others needs they have at a point in the relationship but when that need no longer exists, what you have left is just this person who you begin to fall apart from. That's because what once drew you togeather no longer is the foundation of the connection.
Nothing holds up well under a weak foundation. It's hard to be in love with someone once the rose colored glasses come off and you see the person with all their faults and flaws. (and the realities of the life you are embracing with them)
With the divorce rate being what it is, ya have to know it happens a lot.
It takes a strong foundation, to make a relationship last a life time. With out it, you will never be able to weather the storms, struggles and the things that tick you off about the person.
Elvis was the kind of person who didn't hold grudges and continually tried to forgive and since he did, wanted the same in return. Fussing and fighting and hanging in there in a relationship was something he had known his whole life. And I will tell you, he hated divorce.
But Priscilla was so different than him. She was more worldly and modern. The more she hung around in California, the more she was influenced by the new age of women. She adapted, he never did. He was still this guy who lived in the mind set of the old southern ways.
How in the heck was that relationship ever going to survive. This served to chip away at the foundation that was weak in the first place.
Believe me, those old southern ideas were a real adjustment for me in my marriage. And it took a lot of work and communication to weather those differences. Sometimes people folishly continue in the relationship hoping it will magically work out anyway. And Elvis felt he didn't have a choice. So once again, he decided to hope for the best and take responsibility for his mistakes. Or what he thought was one. Believe what you want, he thought she was already pregnant.
So then the child and what love that they had became their foundation for their relationship. For him, it was enough, for her it wasn't. It was all about how he never changed, and who she became.
And no weak love she had for him by this time or baby was going to make her happy. And why should it when she could have what she wanted with out him. She could have a regular male/female relationship, money, very glamorous life in California and find a man who was not like Elvis and all the things that she didn't like about him and the independance she needed. She could go to Cali and pursue a modeling career and make her new dreams come true. For her the grass was much greener on the other side. For him, life with out her and Lisa was not. I firmly believe he would have been content to stay married the way it was forever. No I know it, he would have never divorced her untill she made it impossible for him to allow it and he had no other choice.
Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories, and the good things she loved about him. He was wonderful in many ways. Did he still love her, in some ways too but mostly because Elvis was one that once he loved, he loved no matter what.

Missy, I don't doubt you heard things about Elvis' and Priscilla's relationship as we all have...but, you post as if you were there! I just want to ask you, have you ever met Elvis or Priscilla or seen them together, when they were a couple?



Weak love she had for him?? Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories How do you know what they were feeling/thinking??

I would like to know if any woman here, would expect any less than a marriage proposal after being together with Elvis for 7 years...I think he waited because he didn't want to marry her at age 18, for example.

Nobody knows what really happened behind closed doors! They both cheated, the relationship ended and they got divorced.

franny

[ehollier]

Elvis never promised to marry her when he brought her to Graceland!! He did so that she could finish her education in the states and date him and see where the relationship would go. Period. Elvis would never promise to marry someone when he was dating other women. Why do you think it took him so long to marry her. She even says they were content to live just like they were. Doesn't mean he didn't love her. Lots of people love each other and lived togeather. He also questioned weather the relationship was going to last forever. Did that mean he didn't (at some point as the relationship grew) hope it would.
I think each of them were looking for something and thought maybe they found that in each other. For her it was a father figure and for him it was a mother figure. And there was some infatuation..which we all know fades. Infatatuation grew from there into a romance. Sometimes people can meet each others needs they have at a point in the relationship but when that need no longer exists, what you have left is just this person who you begin to fall apart from. That's because what once drew you togeather no longer is the foundation of the connection.
Nothing holds up well under a weak foundation. It's hard to be in love with someone once the rose colored glasses come off and you see the person with all their faults and flaws. (and the realities of the life you are embracing with them)
With the divorce rate being what it is, ya have to know it happens a lot.
It takes a strong foundation, to make a relationship last a life time. With out it, you will never be able to weather the storms, struggles and the things that tick you off about the person.
Elvis was the kind of person who didn't hold grudges and continually tried to forgive and since he did, wanted the same in return. Fussing and fighting and hanging in there in a relationship was something he had known his whole life. And I will tell you, he hated divorce.
But Priscilla was so different than him. She was more worldly and modern. The more she hung around in California, the more she was influenced by the new age of women. She adapted, he never did. He was still this guy who lived in the mind set of the old southern ways.
How in the heck was that relationship ever going to survive. This served to chip away at the foundation that was weak in the first place.
Believe me, those old southern ideas were a real adjustment for me in my marriage. And it took a lot of work and communication to weather those differences. Sometimes people folishly continue in the relationship hoping it will magically work out anyway. And Elvis felt he didn't have a choice. So once again, he decided to hope for the best and take responsibility for his mistakes. Or what he thought was one. Believe what you want, he thought she was already pregnant.
So then the child and what love that they had became their foundation for their relationship. For him, it was enough, for her it wasn't. It was all about how he never changed, and who she became.
And no weak love she had for him by this time or baby was going to make her happy. And why should it when she could have what she wanted with out him. She could have a regular male/female relationship, money, very glamorous life in California and find a man who was not like Elvis and all the things that she didn't like about him and the independance she needed. She could go to Cali and pursue a modeling career and make her new dreams come true. For her the grass was much greener on the other side. For him, life with out her and Lisa was not. I firmly believe he would have been content to stay married the way it was forever. No I know it, he would have never divorced her untill she made it impossible for him to allow it and he had no other choice.
Did they still love each other? I think there was a tiny bit of love left,(for her) based on memories, and the good things she loved about him. He was wonderful in many ways. Did he still love her, in some ways too but mostly because Elvis was one that once he loved, he loved no matter what.

After she turned 18, Priscilla was legally an adult, but you chose to ignore she was also under the thumb of a very famous, intimidating personality named Elvis Presley.

It is clear that Elvis, who was older, more experienced and arranged for all the things that happened to Priscilla between September 1959 and May 1, 1967, should have borne a lot more of the responsibility for the failure of his marriage than Priscilla. It may not be unrealistic to presume his transgressions outnumbered hers 100 to 1.

But it seems the love fans still carry for Elvis trumps all sense of perspective on this matter.

[presley31]

Missy, I don't doubt you heard things about Elvis' and Priscilla's relationship as we all have...but, you post as if you were there! I just want to ask you, have you ever met Elvis or Priscilla or seen them together, when they were a couple?

How do you know what they were feeling/thinking??

I would like to know if any woman here, would expect any less than a marriage proposal after being together with Elvis for 7 years...I think he waited because he didn't want to marry her at age 18, for example.

Nobody knows what really happened behind closed doors! They both cheated, the relationship ended and they got divorced.

franny

well said franny and agree too.

[MissyM]

No I never met them but I ,just like you all use things I have been told, and clues out there made know. I don't claim to have concrete proof. It is my opinions. Just like everyone else on this board. It is my take on things based on several things. You don't have to agee at all.
Ehollier, Elvis had no control of Priscilla's life untill she got to Memphis. None. That was right before she was 18. (by 4 months only)
Now I have a question: what exactly do people think she was denied in the way of freedom??? What things did she want that other 18 year olds want that she could not have???? Elvis was protective and therefore when she went places sometimes (not always) she was with someone who could watch out for her. But she went shopping, to get here nails and hair done, did things with her friends in the group. She went to prom, she had friends over. So what exactly is it she could not do??
This is where the myth has taken on a life of it's own. There were a few limitations because of who she was. But as for Elvis being this domineering male figure that has been blown out of proportion. She did have to take the backseat to his popularity and waited at home while he was off doing "his thing". But that was her choice. There was no lock and key on the door and she could have left at anytime. She could have still seen Elvis after her parents got to the States, which wasn't long after she came to Memphis. She did not have to live at Graceland. She was free to do many things women of that age like to do.
It is she who makes it out as if she was a bird in a guilded cage. She was not. If she wanted to live a life separate from him (more "normal")and still have a relationship she could have. Women he dated did. He wanted her there (well a few times not) and she wanted to be there. For whatever reason. They both made that bed and slept in it. If she didn't like his the competition, then all she had to do was leave period.
Like I said, for whatever reason they both decided to hang in there as long as they could. She wanted for more, he did not.
It is not uncommon in male/female relationships.

[Teddy]

If she wanted to live a life separate from him (more "normal")and still have a relationship she could have. Women he dated did.

But don't you think she would have gone the same way as his other dates if she had?
Let's face it- submitting to the fabled 'Gilded Cage' is part of the reason Cilla went the distance when so many of the others didn't. It was his way or the highway.

[ehollier]

No I never met them but I ,just like you all use things I have been told, and clues out there made know. I don't claim to have concrete proof. It is my opinions. Just like everyone else on this board. It is my take on things based on several things. You don't have to agee at all.
Ehollier, Elvis had no control of Priscilla's life untill she got to Memphis. None. That was right before she was 18. (by 4 months only)
Now I have a question: what exactly do people think she was denied in the way of freedom??? What things did she want that other 18 year olds want that she could not have???? Elvis was protective and therefore when she went places sometimes (not always) she was with someone who could watch out for her. But she went shopping, to get here nails and hair done, did things with her friends in the group. She went to prom, she had friends over. So what exactly is it she could not do??
This is where the myth has taken on a life of it's own. There were a few limitations because of who she was. But as for Elvis being this domineering male figure that has been blown out of proportion. She did have to take the backseat to his popularity and waited at home while he was off doing "his thing". But that was her choice. There was no lock and key on the door and she could have left at anytime. She could have still seen Elvis after her parents got to the States, which wasn't long after she came to Memphis. She did not have to live at Graceland. She was free to do many things women of that age like to do.
It is she who makes it out as if she was a bird in a guilded cage. She was not. If she wanted to live a life separate from him (more "normal")and still have a relationship she could have. Women he dated did. He wanted her there (well a few times not) and she wanted to be there. For whatever reason. They both made that bed and slept in it. If she didn't like his the competition, then all she had to do was leave period.
Like I said, for whatever reason they both decided to hang in there as long as they could. She wanted for more, he did not.
It is not uncommon in male/female relationships.

It's funny that you mention "the bird on the guilded cage" because Billy says that was just what Priscilla was in his book "Revelations of the Memphis Mafia" - but in so far as what she could and couldn't do, there isn't a book that I've read that has stated that Priscilla wasn't able to do the same things that other 18 year girls did, that she wasn't allowed to bring friends over, she wasn't allowed to roam the grounds of Graceland for fear of being seen, and her activities were limited to only a few inside Elvis's carefully constructed bubble. You are correct in that she was free to leave anytime she wanted if she was unhappy and it was her choice not to leave. But if she loved him, then why would she want to leave. She felt that there was a future with him and she stuck it out hoping that they would have a life together. In 1963, 64, etc. she couldn't and probably neither could Elvis, fathom what life would become by the end of the decade, just as Elvis probably couldn't fathom the changes that marriage would make in Priscilla. Just because life changed for them as his career changed, as they were married and had Lisa Marie, as they grew apart doesn't mean that they didn't love each other or that Priscilla had some grand scheme to marry him and then leave after "she got what she wanted." The changes were not some sinister plan to deceive him, just as I believe that the changes that he underwent weren't either.

I stand by my earlier post by saying that whether or not anyone likes admitting it, Priscilla obviously provided Elvis with something that gave him the self-assurance and support that Elvis and ELVIS evidently needed and was severely lacking after her departure, even with the parade of women that came and went in her wake.

[presley31]

But don't you think she would have gone the same way as his other dates if she had?
Let's face it- submitting to the fabled 'Gilded Cage' is part of the reason Cilla went the distance when so many of the others didn't. It was his way or the highway.

glad you are so good with words teddy(y)(y) be lost without you my friend:notworthy

[ehollier]

But don't you think she would have gone the same way as his other dates if she had?
Let's face it- submitting to the fabled 'Gilded Cage' is part of the reason Cilla went the distance when so many of the others didn't. It was his way or the highway.

I have to agree with this post.....

[MissyM]

It's funny that you mention "the bird on the guilded cage" because Billy says that was just what Priscilla was in his book "Revelations of the Memphis Mafia" - but in so far as what she could and couldn't do, there isn't a book that I've read that has stated that Priscilla wasn't able to do the same things that other 18 year girls did, that she wasn't allowed to bring friends over, she wasn't allowed to roam the grounds of Graceland for fear of being seen, and her activities were limited to only a few inside Elvis's carefully constructed bubble. You are correct in that she was free to leave anytime she wanted if she was unhappy and it was her choice not to leave. But if she loved him, then why would she want to leave. She felt that there was a future with him and she stuck it out hoping that they would have a life together. In 1963, 64, etc. she couldn't and probably neither could Elvis, fathom what life would become by the end of the decade, just as Elvis probably couldn't fathom the changes that marriage would make in Priscilla. Just because life changed for them as his career changed, as they were married and had Lisa Marie, as they grew apart doesn't mean that they didn't love each other or that Priscilla had some grand scheme to marry him and then leave after "she got what she wanted." The changes were not some sinister plan to deceive him, just as I believe that the changes that he underwent weren't either.

I stand by my earlier post by saying that whether or not anyone likes admitting it, Priscilla obviously provided Elvis with something that gave him the self-assurance and support that Elvis and ELVIS evidently needed and was severely lacking after her departure, even with the parade of women that came and went in her wake.


I'm not saying she wasn't very protected and treated a certain way when she first got there. But it's obvious that as time progressed she wasn't. There are pictures of her going in and out of Graceland in her own car by herself. And remember after the Ann Margaret thing, Priscilla even is seen on the set with him. Gradually she was allowed more and more freedom. That is what is confusing to me. And that is why I feel the story was overblown as if her whole time there was always like it was when she first got there. Maybe that is were we are not understanding each other.
Was life on Graceland and as Elvis's GF/Wife and odd life. By all accounts by what most people have said yes. And it looks like that's the reason that no women could stay that long.
What maybe you don't understand is that I get that longing for a normal life, normal relationship, I just don't know how she could ever think she would have it with him???
She did leave him, I just think she should have done it sooner than later and after he was as attached to her and had his child. Before he thought that it was going to be forever.
Sorry I just don't feel his complete demise was because of her. A significant part yes.
It seems that you can't comprehend the idea of her waiting to be in a place where she could come out of it with some prize for all her time and effort. I just can't believe that it wasn't on her mind. She isn't that stupid and she could have still had that mind set if she did love him.

[Yada]

Wow, a very interesting topic and God, the topics in this forum is full of posts! It's the best pastime! :D. I liked reading all these comments... Thanks everyone

I like Elvis and Priscilla together.. Together they created this great gene pool and obviously, noone put a gun against Elvis' head to force him to marry Priscilla. I don't think Elvis would've invited Priscilla to live with him if he hadn't had the idea of marrying her one day.. Otherwise, how could he convince the parents of a 16 year-old to come and live with a super star? He wanted her.

In time, he met many nice women, including one serious relationship with Ann Margaret. He might have felt in dilemma for a while, for months maybe. But eventually Priscilla would be a better alternative as Elvis was really an old fashined man who disliked his women to have a career of their own.. And he wasn't going to let Priscilla down.. He loved her too much to do drop her like that

He said, according to Larry Geller's book, that Ann Margaret and Priscilla were very much lookalike but Priscilla was eager to be his wife. He realized he would be happier with Cilla, so he chose her over Ann.

[ehollier]

.................It seems that you can't comprehend the idea of her waiting to be in a place where she could come out of it with some prize for all her time and effort. I just can't believe that it wasn't on her mind. She isn't that stupid and she could have still had that mind set if she did love him.

With all due respect Missy and to your fellow friends on this board that believe this same idea that Priscilla bided her time 'for her prize', as you so eloquently worded it, I do not agree and think it is completely ludicrous that this is even something that fans believe. I am sorry Missy but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

[Donut]

The question would be if they liked each other together and obviously they didn't. They divorced and never took their relationship up again.
FACT.

[presley31]

Wow, a very interesting topic and God, the topics in this forum is full of posts! It's the best pastime! :D. I liked reading all these comments... Thanks everyone

I like Elvis and Priscilla together.. Together they created this great gene pool and obviously, noone put a gun against Elvis' head to force him to marry Priscilla. I don't think Elvis would've invited Priscilla to live with him if he hadn't had the idea of marrying her one day.. Otherwise, how could he convince the parents of a 16 year-old to come and live with a super star? He wanted her.

In time, he met many nice women, including one serious relationship with Ann Margaret. He might have felt in dilemma for a while, for months maybe. But eventually Priscilla would be a better alternative as Elvis was really an old fashined man who disliked his women to have a career of their own.. And he wasn't going to let Priscilla down.. He loved her too much to do drop her like that

He said, according to Larry Geller's book, that Ann Margaret and Priscilla were very much lookalike but Priscilla was eager to be his wife. He realized he would be happier with Cilla, so he chose her over Ann.

Great post yada(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

With all due respect Missy and to your fellow friends on this board that believe this same idea that Priscilla bided her time 'for her prize', as you so eloquently worded it, I do not agree and think it is completely ludicrous that this is even something that fans believe. I am sorry Missy but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

This is true...we will have to agree to disagree on this subject. I would prefer for you to NOT call us "ludicrous" however. The same could be said of your ideas as well, but I don't recall anyone trying to make you look stupid for your beliefs.:blink:

[utmom2008]

It seems that you can't comprehend the idea of her waiting to be in a place where she could come out of it with some prize for all her time and effort. I just can't believe that it wasn't on her mind. She isn't that stupid and she could have still had that mind set if she did love him.

Very true Missy. I have known a couple of women well whose marriages did not work out. They loved their husbands very much, but became tired of turning the other cheek, so to speak. It just so happened that their husbands were also "dough-loaded", and as they said "I'm going to take him to the cleaners" for all their years of putting up with his crap. Someone please show me a woman divorcing a rich man and telling the judge "I sure don't want any of Tom, Dick or Harry's money".:supriced::supriced::supriced:

[ehollier]

This is true...we will have to agree to disagree on this subject. I would prefer for you to NOT call us "ludicrous" however. The same could be said of your ideas as well, but I don't recall anyone trying to make you look stupid for your beliefs.:blink:

Now Rosanne, don't go twisting my words around. I never said or implied that you were 'ludicrous'. I said that the theory of Priscilla bided her time "until she could claim her prize" -- all Missy's words -- was completely 'ludicrous'.

[presley31]

Its not that hard people to understand we all have different opinions on priscilla and really this same old story has been told like million times and everyone still have the same opinions so franky whats the point in going on and on ? except the blame game is so much fun.

[KPM]

I'm not saying she wasn't very protected and treated a certain way when she first got there. But it's obvious that as time progressed she wasn't. There are pictures of her going in and out of Graceland in her own car by herself. And remember after the Ann Margaret thing, Priscilla even is seen on the set with him. Gradually she was allowed more and more freedom. That is what is confusing to me. And that is why I feel the story was overblown as if her whole time there was always like it was when she first got there. Maybe that is were we are not understanding each other.
Was life on Graceland and as Elvis's GF/Wife and odd life. By all accounts by what most people have said yes. And it looks like that's the reason that no women could stay that long.
What maybe you don't understand is that I get that longing for a normal life, normal relationship, I just don't know how she could ever think she would have it with him???
She did leave him, I just think she should have done it sooner than later and after he was as attached to her and had his child. Before he thought that it was going to be forever.
Sorry I just don't feel his complete demise was because of her. A significant part yes.
It seems that you can't comprehend the idea of her waiting to be in a place where she could come out of it with some prize for all her time and effort. I just can't believe that it wasn't on her mind. She isn't that stupid and she could have still had that mind set if she did love him.
I can comprehend the idea-but isn't it a stretch to think somehow in the early 60s she had this "mind set"-he will die young I will get it all?
Perhaps in 72-77 people close began to worry- he may not make it to 50, but Priscilla would have had to own a working crystal ball in order to somehow have the mind set that in the near future-oh 10, 12 years- he will die, his father will die and I will end up with the whole ball of wax(which was melting into 1981)
I would not say that it is not a possibility- but I would not make a huge bet on it-if God would decide to settle the debate and give us the answer.
If he is going to settle a debate-I want to know the meaning of life!;)

[presley31]

I can comprehend the idea-but isn't it a stretch to think somehow in the early 60s she had this "mind set"-he will die young I will get it all?
Perhaps in 72-77 people close began to worry- he may not make it to 50, but Priscilla would have had to own a working crystal ball in order to somehow have the mind set that in the near future-oh 10, 12 years- he will die, his father will die and I will end up with the whole ball of wax(which was melting into 1981)
I would not say that it is not a possibility- but I would not make a huge bet on it-if God would decide to settle the debate and give us the answer.
If he is going to settle a debate-I want to know the meaning of life!;)

agreed KPM.

[ehollier]

I can comprehend the idea-but isn't it a stretch to think somehow in the early 60s she had this "mind set"-he will die young I will get it all?
Perhaps in 72-77 people close began to worry- he may not make it to 50, but Priscilla would have had to own a working crystal ball in order to somehow have the mind set that in the near future-oh 10, 12 years- he will die, his father will die and I will end up with the whole ball of wax(which was melting into 1981)
I would not say that it is not a possibility- but I would not make a huge bet on it-if God would decide to settle the debate and give us the answer.
If he is going to settle a debate-I want to know the meaning of life!;)


GREAT INSIGHT, Ken!!!!!!!!! (y)(y)(y)

[Donut]

I can' see how Missy's post is related to Elvis death in any way but maybe I missed something. I thought she was talking about the divorce.

[presley31]

GREAT INSIGHT, Ken!!!!!!!!! (y)(y)(y)

I thought so myself liz(y)(y) KPM posts are very enjoyable.

[KPM]

I can' see how Missy's post is related to Elvis death in any way but maybe I missed something. I thought she was talking about the divorce.
Rereading it you may have a point. There may have been a time where Priscilla did think-what will I get if we divorce. But we all agree Elvis was pretty generous, and pretty giving-always was. I see no reason that Priscilla would think he would be otherwise-if a divorce did happen.
But its only human nature to wonder in situations like that-what will I get, where will I stand. Divorce is like a death in some ways and it reminds me of something I experienced a long time ago.
I knew a young woman in the1980s whos father was dying of prostate cancer-and it took a couple years. Anyone who has gone thru something like this knows how hard it can be. One day she and I were working across the desk from each other and out of no where she started to cry. I asked her what was wrong and she just shook her head and cried. A week or so later she told me that what made her cry was she had wondered what she would get from her fathers will.
She did not wish or hope her father would pass away, she loved her father-yet she wondered "what will I get where do I stand when it happens".

[Donut]

Rereading it you may have a point. There may have been a time where Priscilla did think-what will I get if we divorce. But we all agree Elvis was pretty generous, and pretty giving-always was. I see no reason that Priscilla would think he would be otherwise-if a divorce did happen.
But its only human nature to wonder in situations like that-what will I get, where will I stand. Divorce is like a death in some ways and it reminds me of something I experienced a long time ago.
I knew a young woman in the1980s whos father was dying of prostate cancer-and it took a couple years. Anyone who has gone thru something like this knows how hard it can be. One day she and I were working across the desk from each other and out of no where she started to cry. I asked her what was wrong and she just shook her head and cried. A week or so later she told me that what made her cry was she had wondered what she would get from her fathers will.
She did not wish or hope her father would pass away, she loved her father-yet she wondered "what will I get where do I stand when it happens".

I don't think that was on Elvis's ex-wife mind. By 72-73 no one imagined he was going to die. I don't know if she knew Elvis changed his will though, if she didn't she surely had the surprise of her life. Luckily Elvis was smarter than some people tend to think and knew those around him more than we ever will.

Maybe you are right and that's what Missy was talking about KPM but I didn't get it that way.

[KPM]

I don't think that was on Elvis's ex-wife mind. By 72-73 no one imagined he was going to die. I don't know if she knew Elvis changed his will though, if she didn't she surely had the surprise of her life. Luckily Elvis was smarter than some people tend to think and knew those around him more than we ever will.

Maybe you are right and that's what Missy was talking about KPM but I didn't get it that way.
Actually I agree with you she probably was speaking of the divorce. Either way, I just don't think there was a long range plan of any measure to plot out strategy in the event of divorce or death. But as I said about the woman I worked- thoughts crossed her mind.

[Genie]

It seems I find so many people who seems to hate Cilla, and I read why, and its just astounds me

I always loved Elvis and Priscilla as a couple, loved Cilla and Elvis separately also, and I just don't get this hate people have for Priscilla.



Also, even though Elvis cheated and did a lot of mean things to Cilla, I still think Elvis loved Cilla with all his heart and she loved him back.


After the divorce didn't he still go to Cilla and talk about his problems and wasn't she always there for him?

I just don't understand how people seem to think Priscilla is the bad woman, and yes she still has his name, whats wrong with that? She never married the man she is with today, so I don't see no problem in that.


Maybe, she wants to keep something of Elvis to her heart and thats why she has the last name I dunno, but I do believed that was her True Love, and she really wanted him to change, before the divorce she did ask him to go away on vacation spend time with her and Lisa, she desperately did try to save the marriage but he just wasn't interested at that time.


I don't think Priscilla is a victim thats not what I'm saying, but Elvis loved her, and I believe that love was very strong at one point.


I still think that song You Are Always on my Mind was for Cilla, maybe I'm wrong but yeah, I am sorry, I am new to this board, so I may get some backlash on the Cilla haters, but I admire her for being a strong woman, she was with Elvis a long time since she was a young teenage girl, and I don't think she was after him for anything other then him and the love she felt for him.


I like Lisa also, and Lisa loves her mom, I don't get why there is so much hate for Priscilla, I just adored Elvis with her, and whats sad is he realized way to late that they should have tried to save the marriage, thats whats more sad.


I still think after the divorce Elvis loved Priscilla and if she came back to him he would have got back together with her in a heartbeat, maybe I'm wrong on that but I think its true.


Priscilla was the one person Elvis Truly confided all his fears, thoughts and opinions, and personal stuff to, and she stood by his side through a lot of crap, she tried to help him get off the pills, but he didn't. But anyways, I am a Elvis fan, a Priscilla fan, a Lisa fan, and a Elvis & Priscilla fan, and I will always be.


Anyways, I just wanted to post my thoughts on this, sometimes when you see interviews of Priscilla and she talks of Elvis or someone asks her something you definitely do see a sadness in her eyes, but I am sorry for going on and on about this lol.



I just think things could have been different if Elvis decided to do what Cilla asked and they got away and spent time together with Lisa, maybe they would have stayed together, maybe Elvis wouldn't have let his health go real bad, and maybe just maybe he may still be alive today, but thats a big theory but sometimes you just wonder you know :)



Rest in Peace Elvis we miss you!


Anyone here the song Bill Medley sang for Elvis, Old Friend? Omg its beautiful, and sad its on Youtube I will post the link if its okay :)



http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3J7zDwQ3VI


;)
I liked this lovely little girl from Germany, but I had always felt the trouble this meant, and it no doubt caused a great deal of it... stashing her away like a doll in the closet... rather sad.. then she becomes of age...
Well, no doubt she was beautiful, and seemed like a lady, sweet and yet way over her head with this man.
I always opted for Ann Margaret myself.
Elvis and 'Cilla were betteer friends then husband and wife and I don't hate the woman, I just feel that as she grew older, and older she caused or was part of many problems he didn't need to be involved with.
Especially following his death. There is a bond, when a child is involved, and there are years of close love and compassion...
He was not in my opinion a man who was ever meant to be married.
As he could not maintain a proper home life, and she didn't like traveling all over kingdom come...understandably so.
A few things 'Cilla has done has caused my reaction to fade from her youthful sweet innocence... :hmm: It's a rough call..for anyone to make. Only they knew how close they were.
Keeping the name Presley, referring to herself as his "Widow" when divorced, ruffled my feathers. Also willing to tell "Her" side which was not a good light for the public to hear, and no proof it ever went down that way...Notice Ann never speaks ill of Elvis' and those who truly love him, don't.

[rickb]

I can't stand how Priscilla presents herslef as the greiving widow. She has made money out of the Presley legacy, stayed attached to his name through other relationships and generally exploited her association with Elvis.
And then she went and spent so much of her Elvis-inspired money on plastic surgery to appease her vanity but turned her into something grotesque
Sorry, but i am not a fan

[KPM]

;)
I liked this lovely little girl from Germany, but I had always felt the trouble this meant, and it no doubt caused a great deal of it... stashing her away like a doll in the closet... rather sad.. then she becomes of age...
Well, no doubt she was beautiful, and seemed like a lady, sweet and yet way over her head with this man.
I always opted for Ann Margaret myself.
Elvis and 'Cilla were betteer friends then husband and wife and I don't hate the woman, I just feel that as she grew older, and older she caused or was part of many problems he didn't need to be involved with.
Especially following his death. There is a bond, when a child is involved, and there are years of close love and compassion...
He was not in my opinion a man who was ever meant to be married.
As he could not maintain a proper home life, and she didn't like traveling all over kingdom come...understandably so.
A few things 'Cilla has done has caused my reaction to fade from her youthful sweet innocence... :hmm: It's a rough call..for anyone to make. Only they knew how close they were.
Keeping the name Presley, referring to herself as his "Widow" when divorced, ruffled my feathers. Also willing to tell "Her" side which was not a good light for the public to hear, and no proof it ever went down that way...Notice Ann never speaks ill of Elvis' and those who truly love him, don't.
My mom divorced my first stepdad-claims she hates his guts-has been remarried 3 times since-has been single 14 years and still uses his last name.

I am not sure Priscilla has ever actually referred to herself as "his widow"
although at times I guess she has played that idea up. I know she has been wrongly referred to by the media as his widow (Larry King comes to mind)
Ann Margret is a great lady, she has class-but the spark filled relationship with Elvis was very short lived by all accounts (including hers). Its hard to compare her time with Elvis to the much longer relationship with Priscilla.
My wife and I dated for about a year-and we had stars in our eyes the whole time-party manners at all times.
We married and real life started and we each noticed the things that the stars had blotted out when we dated. If Ann and Elvis had married-I think the stars and party manners relationship would have disappeared. Very few people are married and every day is like they first met.
So Ann in a way is lucky, she probably never saw anything but the stars in their time together.
For the record my wife and I have been married 35 years and she could tell you some things about me that would probably make you think-man what a jerk he has been. But the good out weighs the bad.
She loves me with all her heart today, I have no doubt- and I her. She would speak ill of things I had done in our life-because she would tell you the truth. I would not expect her to do otherwise.

[ehollier]

;)
I liked this lovely little girl from Germany, but I had always felt the trouble this meant, and it no doubt caused a great deal of it... stashing her away like a doll in the closet... rather sad.. then she becomes of age...
Well, no doubt she was beautiful, and seemed like a lady, sweet and yet way over her head with this man.
I always opted for Ann Margaret myself.
Elvis and 'Cilla were betteer friends then husband and wife and I don't hate the woman, I just feel that as she grew older, and older she caused or was part of many problems he didn't need to be involved with.
Especially following his death. There is a bond, when a child is involved, and there are years of close love and compassion...
He was not in my opinion a man who was ever meant to be married.
As he could not maintain a proper home life, and she didn't like traveling all over kingdom come...understandably so.
A few things 'Cilla has done has caused my reaction to fade from her youthful sweet innocence... :hmm: It's a rough call..for anyone to make. Only they knew how close they were.
Keeping the name Presley, referring to herself as his "Widow" when divorced, ruffled my feathers. Also willing to tell "Her" side which was not a good light for the public to hear, and no proof it ever went down that way...Notice Ann never speaks ill of Elvis' and those who truly love him, don't.

While I don't believe that Elvis was a perfect gentleman all of the time, the real Elvis experienced the same up and down mood swings that every one else does which was exasperated by his lifestyle. Ann never had to live with him day and day out or even part-time for that matter. And given Elvis' manners with others, I am sure that Elvis was on his best behavior when he was in the presence of his in-laws, yes sir and yes ma'aming them as he would any other outsider.

[Diane]

It is my feeling that as much as Elvis and Priscilla looked to be a perfect physical match, both with the dark hair and blue eyes, that their personalities, wants and needs were completely mismatched and so I am not surprised the marriage fell apart.

Diane

[ehollier]

My mom divorced my first stepdad-claims she hates his guts-has been remarried 3 times since-has been single 14 years and still uses his last name.

I am not sure Priscilla has ever actually referred to herself as "his widow"
although at times I guess she has played that idea up. I know she has been wrongly referred to by the media as his widow (Larry King comes to mind)
Ann Margret is a great lady, she has class-but the spark filled relationship with Elvis was very short lived by all accounts (including hers). Its hard to compare her time with Elvis to the much longer relationship with Priscilla.
My wife and I dated for about a year-and we had stars in our eyes the whole time-party manners at all times.
We married and real life started and we each noticed the things that the stars had blotted out when we dated. If Ann and Elvis had married-I think the stars and party manners relationship would have disappeared. Very few people are married and every day is like they first met.
So Ann in a way is lucky, she probably never saw anything but the stars in their time together.
For the record my wife and I have been married 35 years and she could tell you some things about me that would probably make you think-man what a jerk he has been. But the good out weighs the bad.
She loves me with all her heart today, I have no doubt- and I her. She would speak ill of things I had done in our life-because she would tell you the truth. I would not expect her to do otherwise.

(y)(y)(y)(y)

Priscilla never referred to herself as Elvis' widow. Those claims have come from the media and only the media. Being Elvis' only wife, daughter to his child and executor of Graceland may make her feel like a widow sometimes, but I doubt that she ever thought that she was actually his 'widow' in the traditionally sense. We Elvis fans and Priscilla bashers have our US media to thank for that title.

You are probably correct about Ann-Margret. She only saw Elvis while the 'stars were still shining' so she couldn't have been around during those dark days in 65-67 when he was depressed about his career. In 1963-64 he was still hopeful that his movie career would be more challenging and he was still recording album material so his creativity was still being fed. I am not saying that Ann-Margret wouldn't have understood or wasn't capable of being his partner, but the simple fact that she only knows one side of Elvis doesn't automatically make her his ideal mate.

[Teddy]

Keeping the name Presley, referring to herself as his "Widow" when divorced, ruffled my feathers.

So many people maintain their married names for personal or professional reasons that it is barely worth discussing, even when they haven't married Elvis. If you find this idea distasteful, perhaps you think that divorcees shouldn't be granted a financial settlement either and leave a marriage with nothing to show for their time but a dependent child, irrespective of their ex-partner's means or status?

And after years of pathological fixation, I have yet to come across this fabled interview where Priscilla Presley refers to herself as his ****ing widow. How come it eludes me while everyone else is privy to this seemingly ubiquitous material?

[ehollier]

.....leave a marriage with nothing to show for their time but a dependent child, irrespective of their ex-partner's means or status?



But she left the marraige with a great head of hair, huh Teddy????????? :supriced::supriced::supriced:

[Genie]

So many people maintain their married names for personal or professional reasons that it is barely worth discussing, even when they haven't married Elvis. If you find this idea distasteful, perhaps you think that divorcees shouldn't be granted a financial settlement either and leave a marriage with nothing to show for their time but a dependent child, irrespective of their ex-partner's means or status?

And after years of pathological fixation, I have yet to come across this fabled interview where Priscilla Presley refers to herself as his ****ing widow. How come it eludes me while everyone else is privy to this seemingly ubiquitous material?

:blink:
Yes you are correct and I might just be one of them... or was..at one time.. however, Priss remarried, and still wouldn't leave the name Presley... I think thats self explanatory.
As for not hearing the "Widow" comment, perhaps it's just one you missed...we all miss something, it's been a long long time.................and still running Teddy.

[kathy parkinson]

Priscilla didn't remarry.

[Teddy]

That's right.
And I'm still waiting for somebody to direct me to the instance where Priscilla explicitly refers to herself as Elvis's widow.

[Genie]

Now Rosanne, don't go twisting my words around. I never said or implied that you were 'ludicrous'. I said that the theory of Priscilla bided her time "until she could claim her prize" -- all Missy's words -- was completely 'ludicrous'.



:blush:I have to agree here, this is the way I read it as well...............
Missy seemed to be the one stepping out on a weak branch.

[Genie]

Priscilla didn't remarry.



:blink:Okay, then I'm wrong and you're right..whatever the case may be, she held onto that name like GOLD! She should have married the man she lived with for 20 years or so and has a Son by.............but gee...that would take her off a lot of monetary expenditures wouldn't it? The legality and all, yet I think Lisa Marie is in full chjrage or should be by now....saying yes or no to Elvis popcorn balls? lol

[Genie]

It is my feeling that as much as Elvis and Priscilla looked to be a perfect physical match, both with the dark hair and blue eyes, that their personalities, wants and needs were completely mismatched and so I am not surprised the marriage fell apart.

Diane


Well, considering Elvis and Priscilla both had dyed hair....they were not so close a match as one might think..............I loved the nic name (gave it to one of my persian cats years ago) Rusty for Ann......though I am not certain she was a real red head...
The problem here is the age...and the fact he brought 'Cilla over here at such a young age... how I wish she had stayed at home, and later on made the change if still wanting both of them , the same things... having her stashed aside as Elvis did, it gave cause to make him feel he was cheating on her all the time... when in fact he wasn't really.
He was a man, she was a little girl (in many ways)
Now, I'm not too sure what she is? Plastic surgery so extensive that I barely know her. It's very sad... She and I are aprox same age, I have never had plastic surgery though I worked for such a surgeon for years... I don't think I look my age..and I definately don't look like a manican..she was beautiful just as she was.
Perfectly unmatched in my opinion though.

[Donut]

That's right.
And I'm still waiting for somebody to direct me to the instance where Priscilla explicitly refers to herself as Elvis's widow.

She acts as if she were. It's clear for all to see wether you like her or not.

[presley31]

That's right.
And I'm still waiting for somebody to direct me to the instance where Priscilla explicitly refers to herself as Elvis's widow.

me to teddy..guess we don't see it:doh::lol:

[ehollier]

She acts as if she were. It's clear for all to see wether you like her or not.

With all due respect D -- that's a matter of opinion. Your opinion, not necessarily others here on the MB.

[Donut]

With all due respect D -- that's a matter of opinion. Your opinion, not necessarily others here on the MB.

I know that E. That's the reason I don't understand why you call us Priscilla bashers because we don't think like you do.


(y)(y)(y)(y)

Priscilla never referred to herself as Elvis' widow. Those claims have come from the media and only the media. Being Elvis' only wife, daughter to his child and executor of Graceland may make her feel like a widow sometimes, but I doubt that she ever thought that she was actually his 'widow' in the traditionally sense. We Elvis fans and Priscilla bashers have our US media to thank for that title.
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[Teddy]

She acts as if she were. It's clear for all to see wether you like her or not.

How do you 'act' like someone's widow?
I think she behaves more like someone who has been lumbered with a tremendous responsibility and is being judged upon every tiny move she makes.
Having the father of your child die is difficult enough- but when he is survived by millions of inconsolable souls who already hate you and pass sour judgement on your every decision, what exactly is the acceptable way to act?

[Diane]

I'm with you Donut. I don't hate Priscilla but I don't feel her motives for being with and marrying Elvis were the right kind and I do think although she may not have called herself his widow, she does seem to like and trades on it.

We all have our own opinions how she strikes us, that's mine and I have no problem with any one who feels differently.

Diane

[presley31]

How do you 'act' like someone's widow?
I think she behaves more like someone who has been lumbered with a tremendous responsibility and is being judged upon every tiny move she makes.
Having the father of your child die is difficult enough- but when he is survived by millions of inconsolable souls who already hate you and pass sour judgement on your every decision, what exactly is the acceptable way to act?


well said Teddy and agree too(y)

[Donut]

How do you 'act' like someone's widow?
I think she behaves more like someone who has been lumbered with a tremendous responsibility and is being judged upon every tiny move she makes.
Having the father of your child die is difficult enough- but when he is survived by millions of inconsolable souls who already hate you and pass sour judgement on your every decision, what exactly is the acceptable way to act?

Where is my blind smiley when I need it most? If I didn't know who you are talking about I would be crying by now. Nice try though ;)

[Teddy]

Where is my blind smiley when I need it most? If I didn't know who you are talking about I would be crying by now. Nice try though ;)

Envy will often impede someone's ability to relate to the misfortune of others ;)

[KPM]

I think its subjective opinion- some see her as playing up the widow angle-others just do not.
If she went on TV and repeatidly proclaimed "I Priscilla- the widow of Elvis Presley"-I would think that would be definitive proof that she is laying claim to that title.
Otherwise its just how you see her and whether you dislike her, like her-or you truely have no feelings on it one way or another.
(I fall into the latter group I guess).

[Teddy]

I think that's fair enough.

[franny]

I would like to know, how does Priscilla act like Elvis' widow? :hmm: She has never said she was and we all know you can't stop the media!

franny

[MissyM]

Franny, every engagement/gig she does no doubt has a contract signed before it's done. She could put it in the contract that they are not to refer to her as his widow. But since she was the only one ever married to him, I think she just lets it go.

[riley]

indeed Missy

[KPM]

I have watched a lot of interviews and the only one who seems to somewhere along the way refer to her as a widow- has been Larry King.
I'm not saying others may have referred to her as widow-I just do not recall anyone else but King doing it.

[franny]

I have watched a lot of interviews and the only one who seems to somewhere along the way refer to her as a widow- has been Larry King.
I'm not saying others may have referred to her as widow-I just do not recall anyone else but King doing it.

Right KPM. I haven't recalled others' saying it either. King has said it, so why do some blame Priscilla for what someone else says? Maybe, she made a comment to him about it at commercial :lol: we don't know..

franny

[Donut]

Envy will often impede someone's ability to relate to the misfortune of others ;)

Yes, envy can make you do awful things.

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[Diane]

We'll probably never really know where the "widow" thing started but by gosh it sure has caused a lot of friction among Elvis' fans hasn't it?:lol:

Diane

[Burning_Love]

Beauitful couple. I think that's what i like about them. Other than that, can't say im a fan of hers.

[presley31]

I have watched a lot of interviews and the only one who seems to somewhere along the way refer to her as a widow- has been Larry King.
I'm not saying others may have referred to her as widow-I just do not recall anyone else but King doing it.

I have read most of the interviews and articles by priscilla and not once has she called herself a widow:blink::supriced:

[KPM]

We'll probably never really know where the "widow" thing started but by gosh it sure has caused a lot of friction among Elvis' fans hasn't it?:lol:

Diane
You sure said a mouthful!:)

[Teddy]

Yes, envy can make you do awful things.

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I can't believe that anyone is capable of such cruelty.http://smiley.net.ru/chamil012.gif

[ehollier]

We'll probably never really know where the "widow" thing started but by gosh it sure has caused a lot of friction among Elvis' fans hasn't it?:lol:

Diane

You are correct about that -- it has caused much friction in the Elvis universe, and unfairly put Priscilla at the hands of her detractors. I'm glad she chooses to ignore it b/c if she would make any sort of deal about it, the fans would scream again about her being sinister and devious.

[Diane]

Can't agree with you on Priscilla and too tired of telling how I feel over and over. I wish we could all just put our differences to rest and agree to disagree. Some of us feel sympathy for Priscilla and some of us feel she was never an honest person.

Diane

[presley31]

Can't agree with you on Priscilla and too tired of telling how I feel over and over. I wish we could all just put our differences to rest and agree to disagree. Some of us feel sympathy for Priscilla and some of us feel she was never an honest person.

Diane

agreed diane

It starting to get really boring when the same old things getting told over and over again and to be honest, some people should just state there opinions and move on, but l have seen some just come on here for priscilla threads just to stir the point and to me thats just looking for trouble. It would be a better place if people got though there heads we are all different and think different and its best to agree and disagree so no bad feelings happen.

[Teddy]

Nonsense, Jen.
The rage will never subside until Cilla is mine.
Then we can put all of this heartache behind us.

[presley31]

Nonsense, Jen.
The rage will never subside until Cilla is mine.
Then we can put all of this heartache behind us.

teddy you just need to face the hard cold facts of life that when hell freezes over than priscilla might just be yours:P

[Teddy]

Now that really hurt :'(

[presley31]

Now that really hurt :'(

teddy there is no easy to break you heart lighty and real friends tell eachtogther the turth..not lie to them :hug::flowers:

[Teddy]

*hmmmph* :mad:

[presley31]

*hmmmph* :mad:

do l have to make you something speacial again just to get your happy again?? priscilla wallpaper again maybe?

[Teddy]

*grudgingly* At the very least! :mad:

[presley31]

*grudgingly* At the very least! :mad:

http://smiley.net.ru/bigemo119.gif pleasse forgive me.

[utmom2008]

I'm with you Donut. I don't hate Priscilla but I don't feel her motives for being with and marrying Elvis were the right kind and I do think although she may not have called herself his widow, she does seem to like and trades on it.

We all have our own opinions how she strikes us, that's mine and I have no problem with any one who feels differently.

Diane

Agreed Donut and Diane!(y)(y)(y)

[utmom2008]

Can't agree with you on Priscilla and too tired of telling how I feel over and over. I wish we could all just put our differences to rest and agree to disagree. Some of us feel sympathy for Priscilla and some of us feel she was never an honest person.

Diane

Let's seperate ourselves into 2 groups. There are those of us referred to as "Priscilla bashers"...maybe we should call the other group "Priscilla droolers".:lmfao::lmfao:

[Donut]

I'm with you Donut. I don't hate Priscilla but I don't feel her motives for being with and marrying Elvis were the right kind and I do think although she may not have called herself his widow, she does seem to like and trades on it.

We all have our own opinions how she strikes us, that's mine and I have no problem with any one who feels differently.

Diane

My problem with her starts mostly after she left him and gets worse after he died. She's made a way of living out of it and no one can deny that, at least to themselves... ;)

I don't have any problem with some people liking her either, Teddy is a living proof of that :xmas: but no one will tell me when or what I'm allowed to say about her while I follow the forum rules and neither should anyone.

[Diane]

I don't want to consider myself a Priscilla basher, I don't feel THAT strongly about her....don't hate her but I can't respect her either. What I really feel is a mild contempt as I do for anyone I feel are very self-involved and people users.

Diane

[presley31]

I wouldn't consider myself a priscilla drooler either, but i'am a fan and always be regradles how anybody else feels about it. I don't make priscilla threads out of respect for people here cause the way l see it you don't like someone why talk about them at all?

[utmom2008]

I wouldn't consider myself a priscilla drooler either, but i'am a fan and always be regradles how anybody else feels about it.I don't make priscilla threads out of respect for people here cause the way l see it you don't like someone why talk about them at all?

There are members who talk about the reasons why they don't like her..nothing more, nothing less. It's no different than alot of things that are discussed here at TCB.....the MM, Elvis' drug use, Ginger Alden, etc...etc.:blush::blink:

[utmom2008]

I don't have any problem with some people liking her either, Teddy is a living proof of that :xmas: but no one will tell me when or what I'm allowed to say about her while I follow the forum rules and neither should anyone.

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[presley31]

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There are members who talk about the reasons why they don't like her..nothing more, nothing less. It's no different than alot of things that are discussed here at TCB.....the MM, Elvis' drug use, Ginger Alden, etc...etc.:blush::blink:

yes you have a point but however there seems to be more discussing priscilla than elvis at times and after all aint we here for elvis.:blink:;)

[Sonny]

So very true.

And nothing new in these threads, same as always.