We Need To Boycott EPE And RCA!!!!!

[EP75]

This has come far enough. We need to stand up as TRUE fans and boycott EPE and RCA and make these *****s realise that WE are the ones in control of what they do to make their money. Who the hell is EPE going to sell the cheap tacky merchandise to besides the fans? NOBODY!! So let's make a stand and stop it.

Same goes for RCA. Who is going to buy their countless compilations with the same weak sound as we had back on vinyl over and over again? The fans are. So let's stop it and boycott RCA by NOT BUYING ANOTHER RELEASE until they change their ways. Same with EPE. When we see a change then we will support again. Guys we CAN make a difference. Whether it's one voice or a thousand voices. Let's show EPE and RCA we mean business. If we don't do something then we become their slaves and EP becomes a thing of the past and a Mickey Mouse of music.

Is anyone with me on this?????(y)

[poormansgold]

I been saying this Long Time ago, 20 years ago I saying same thing To RCA
I didn't no where with them no Letter back from RCA.
WE the Fans Had it With same old tricks by RCA and now With EPE, Few years ago The EPE and RCA close alot Elvis Web Site because they (Sites) had New
Remix Of ALC and Rubberneckin' before they released it, they made few sites change things no MP3 files on the sites or they will go to jail.
I can go on and on with this.
Tom

[Unchained Melody]

I just don't bother buying the crap they dish out to us...I perfer to spend my money on the top quality releases from Ernest and FTD

[Dudcowboy_1]

What I don't get everyone wants boycott or strike agaist EPE? Then why do you still buy the stuff? EPE is great and they have done a awesome job they must be doing something right after 30 years after his death and Elvis is still King of Rock-n-Roll?

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[jak]

This has come far enough. We need to stand up as TRUE fans and boycott EPE and RCA and make these *****s realise that WE are the ones in control of what they do to make their money. Who the hell is EPE going to sell the cheap tacky merchandise to besides the fans? NOBODY!! So let's make a stand and stop it.

Same goes for RCA. Who is going to buy their countless compilations with the same weak sound as we had back on vinyl over and over again? The fans are. So let's stop it and boycott RCA by NOT BUYING ANOTHER RELEASE until they change their ways. Same with EPE. When we see a change then we will support again. Guys we CAN make a difference. Whether it's one voice or a thousand voices. Let's show EPE and RCA we mean business. If we don't do something then we become their slaves and EP becomes a thing of the past and a Mickey Mouse of music.

Is anyone with me on this?????(y)

I understand your frustration but your idea just wont work.You cant galvanize enough people to make a difference in their bottom line.Elvis already is the mickey mouse of music to an extent.People love buying the stuff.It's been that way for a long time going back to when Elvis was alive.It just seems worse now because it's all that's left since he's gone.EPE only has the image to make money from now.
BMG keeps rehashing the same stuff over and over again because it's the only thing that sells that good.With the exception of the MDQ cd last year I havent bought a mainstream release in ages.They also dont have anything left.He's been gone for 30 years and the well is dry.The leftovers are being put on FTD which only sell a few thousand.That's basically the only "new" stuff and the fans dont rush to buy them.Why dont more fans support FTD?Do most here buy every FTD?Did every fan on this board buy the Sullivan dvd's?I bet not.Sometimes I think Im a doomsayer but his music is already taking the backseat to his iconic,cartoonish image.I would rather have a nice full cd rack instead of a Elvis plate collection but most dont feel that way.
Jak

[Dudcowboy_1]

Amen JAK...if they did release everything they have right now what is there left to release in years to come? Some people forget you know they may have enough stuff to release maybe for 10 years. So why not space it out? And re-release things for younger kids out there.

Like me I'm 22 years old soon be 23 I never got see Ed Sullivan on TV and when this DVD set came out it was great! I hope the release maybe different shows too down the line. I wish today they have show like that in 2007.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "Tribute To Elvis Show"

[rocknroll]

I don't agree with everything EPE or RCA does, but then again I don't agree with what a lot of people do. I won't boycott them however as they do a fine job overall. Elvis was so diverse you can not please all his fans all the time.

You mention they need to change. Be specific as to what needs to change and what the results of that change should look like.

[poormansgold]

Know there alot us that be fans long time see same old tricks or old releases in new look, There more remix songs from 1980 sessions not releasse yet, release them now they are 17 years old. make double cd's with Guitar Man
Lp and Too Much Monkey Business CD
here The Songs that might be remix in 1980
And I LOve You So
For Lovin' Me
Funny How Time Slips Away( this one been release on bootlegs)
Blue Eyes Crying In THe Rain
Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall
Shake A Hand
For Ol' Times Sake
Help Me
Susan When She Tried
The Fool

I rare buy FTD CD's because the copy for one Cd for $32.99

Tom

[rocknroll]

Know there alot us that be fans long time see same old tricks or old releases in new look, There more remix songs from 1980 sessions not releasse yet, release them now they are 17 years old. make double cd's with Guitar Man
Lp and Too Much Monkey Business CD
there alot shows to release, RCA sure release Them not all them by FTD
I Rare Buy FTD, because I don't have money to dish out one CD for 32.97
if they was little cheper to buy , I got few them at starting 2000 year

We need To rethink about things about Elvis Stuff.
tOm

Huh? Not sure what the above translates into.

[EP6873]

I understand your frustration but your idea just wont work.You cant galvanize enough people to make a difference in their bottom line.Elvis already is the mickey mouse of music to an extent.People love buying the stuff.It's been that way for a long time going back to when Elvis was alive.It just seems worse now because it's all that's left since he's gone.EPE only has the image to make money from now.
BMG keeps rehashing the same stuff over and over again because it's the only thing that sells that good.With the exception of the MDQ cd last year I havent bought a mainstream release in ages.They also dont have anything left.He's been gone for 30 years and the well is dry.The leftovers are being put on FTD which only sell a few thousand.That's basically the only "new" stuff and the fans dont rush to buy them.Why dont more fans support FTD?Do most here buy every FTD?Did every fan on this board buy the Sullivan dvd's?I bet not.Sometimes I think Im a doomsayer but his music is already taking the backseat to his iconic,cartoonish image.I would rather have a nice full cd rack instead of a Elvis plate collection but most dont feel that way.
Jak

Why doesn't BMG officially release the shows that are out on bootleg albums? If they did then people wouldn't support that. Is there any hope for any of the lost recordings? Why doesn't BMG go through their vaults to find them so they can release them? It would make a lot more money, since that's what they are after. Thanks.

[jak]

Why doesn't BMG officially release the shows that are out on bootleg albums? If they did then people wouldn't support that. Is there any hope for any of the lost recordings? Why doesn't BMG go through their vaults to find them so they can release them? It would make a lot more money, since that's what they are after. Thanks.

They do release them on the FTD label.Problem is that not many people buy them.Dont hold your breath waiting for "lost recordings".Something could turn up but it's unlikely.
Jak

[Suspicious Minds]

Not everyone cannot afford buying FTD Albums at ?17 or ?20. Even tough they are better releases than RCA/ Sony/BMG. The greatests hits should be given a rest. The Elvishitstory was a flop. There own fault for releasing it as triple album when most fans already had first 2 CD's of this set.


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[memphis 77]

it's pretty hard to boycott them especially if you visit GRACELAND everyyear, i sure don't buy the crap they sell like plates.key chains etc.. BUT I DO BUY THE DVD'S and it would be hard to resist , especially if your a completist, i do understand your point and anger, i sure hate some of the stunts they have pulled,[differn't packaging same stuff], but its a catch 22.

[EP75]

Them forcing Youtube to remove the footage that they have no royalty rights to was the last straw for me. That was crossing the line and I hope fans continue to post that footage back until EPE gives in. Why should we bow to them? They are nothing but weak fans make them into more than they are.

[Unchained Melody]

Why doesn't BMG officially release the shows that are out on bootleg albums? If they did then people wouldn't support that. Is there any hope for any of the lost recordings? Why doesn't BMG go through their vaults to find them so they can release them? It would make a lot more money, since that's what they are after. Thanks.

Because the general fans or public are not interested in the concerts...thank God be have Ernesta and FTD. :D

[poormansgold]

Yup Yo u Right Cheif77, not everyone into Concerts stuff .
Tom

[JDD]

it's pretty hard to boycott them especially if you visit GRACELAND everyyear, i sure don't buy the crap they sell like plates.key chains etc.. BUT I DO BUY THE DVD'S and it would be hard to resist , especially if your a completist, i do understand your point and anger, i sure hate some of the stunts they have pulled,[differn't packaging same stuff], but its a catch 22.




I buy every new commercial release of his DVDs (concerts movies etc) but I wouldn't buy them at Graceland. The same ones you can get at Best Buy for 14 dollars, Graceland sells for 30.

[JDD]

it's pretty hard to boycott them especially if you visit GRACELAND everyyear, i sure don't buy the crap they sell like plates.key chains etc.. BUT I DO BUY THE DVD'S and it would be hard to resist , especially if your a completist, i do understand your point and anger, i sure hate some of the stunts they have pulled,[differn't packaging same stuff], but its a catch 22.




I buy every new commercial release of his DVDs (concerts movies etc) but I wouldn't buy them at Graceland. The same ones you can get at Best Buy for 14 dollars, Graceland sells for 30.

EP75, keep looking someone will put them back up, and someone is always selling the bootlegs. Nobody will ever stomp out bootlegs completly.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I have to agree with the compilation CD's you can guarantee that the same songs and the playlist will be the same over and over again. However RCA must be making money somewhere along the line otherwise they wouldn't bother!

FTD is the best material out there but even they are struggling due to the fact it is a niche market and only the hardcore fans will buy it.

I recently bought "Southern Nights" but it cost ?18.99 ($37.50) I love the album and it shows there was more in Elvis' repertoire, but hells bells it not cheap. I suppose if we want new material or shows we have to support Ernst and the guys otherwise this material will not see the light of day in this quality (y)

Matt

[ruggishboo]

Maybe if they cut down the price a little more fans would buy it. I remember buying "6363 Sunset" several years ago and was shocked at how much it was. I understand they (FTD) have to make money to put out what they do, but just make it a little more affordable.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I agree, 2-3 thousand copies doesn't sound many but they are catering to a small market, the general fan is more likely to pick up a CD that they have heard on the radio or music that they have heard from family.

They are not interested in hearing a concert previously unreleased or take 6 of Suspicious Minds ;)

That's why it's inportant to get behind these guys and support FTD if we want them to spend precious time remixing and improving material RCA/BMG wouldn't give the light of day.

[Unchained Melody]

I have to agree with the compilation CD's you can guarantee that the same songs and the playlist will be the same over and over again. However RCA must be making money somewhere along the line otherwise they wouldn't bother!

FTD is the best material out there but even they are struggling due to the fact it is a niche market and only the hardcore fans will buy it.

I recently bought "Southern Nights" but it cost ?18.99 ($37.50) I love the album and it shows there was more in Elvis' repertoire, but hells bells it not cheap. I suppose if we want new material or shows we have to support Ernst and the guys otherwise this material will not see the light of day in this quality (y)

Matt

Agreed Matt...if we're going to be getting any new or unreleased material, expect it to come from ftd..(y)

[Beuth Sim]

Priscilla never loved him, Just his money.

[Unchained Melody]

:hmm:did'nt know Priscilla had anything to do with this topic lol...

[JDD]

Oh Oh :blink: I know where this is going......Backs out slowly.

[Unchained Melody]

Oh Oh :blink: I know where this is going......Backs out slowly.

:lmfao: ..was thinking the same thing jdd :lol:

[jak]

I'm sure to BMG/Sony ftd is chump-chance. EPE got over 200 families to feed and BMG/Sony probably a few thousand. The compilation cd's, posters, cups, etc. are their best source off income and without them there would be no FTD cd's for us guys to buy(officially;) )

Why are you guys asuming that FTD is making money out of these releases? I personally doubt this very much. I simply do not think it's possible to make a profit when pressing only 2000-3000 cd's. Just do the math, it's really ... simple:blush:

Do you really think FTD would keep operating at a loss?The cd's cost a little over twice the cost of an average cd.It's all about money.If they didnt make some profit it would have shutdown long ago.
Jak

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Do you really think FTD would keep operating at a loss?The cd's cost a little over twice the cost of an average cd.It's all about money.If they didnt make some profit it would have shutdown long ago.
Jak

Even if the CD's cost twice that of others if they are only making 2-3 thousand, by the time you factor in the material cost of making the CD's and paying some wages, I don't think anyone is buying a new Cadillac :P

[jak]

Even if the CD's cost twice that of others if they are only making 2-3 thousand, by the time you factor in the material cost of making the CD's and paying some wages, I don't think anyone is buying a new Cadillac :P

Im guessing the FTD's are produced on equipment and by workers that are already in place for other products.The cost of materials involved in the actual production of these discs is almost nothing.The profit compared to an average cd is certainly huge.They have multiple releases over the year.They have found a niche market for material that is basically worth zero on the main label.Material that would otherwise just gather dust and not benefiting them.If they were not making a justifiable profit it would mean they were just being nice and doing the fans a favor;)
Jak

[jak]

I did not say they operate at a loss, i just don't think there's much profit to be made when dealing with such small sales.

The productions and advertising of the E1 release itself probably cost more then all 70+ FTD releases combined but that cd did really made a huge profit.

I agree with you but it's not a fair comparison.The E1 cd deserved the promotion due to it's mass appeal.The FTD label is offering material that nobody but a collector would want.An FTD is something you are looking for.Ive never seen one on a shelf at anytime in any store.Most fans that I know personally have never purchased one.Many dont even know about them.The FTD label is aimed at a very small market.The Elvis fan who is a knowlegable collector and a completist.Not the people who get excited about a new Elvis teddy bear wearing a jumpsuit.I mean no offense to any of you that is reading this while that stuffed bear is staring down at you from your shelf:D
Jak

[jak]

it's just a fun discussion Jak, and I hope to have the latest FTD cd finally in my mail tomorrow:lol:

I hope "Unchained" is waiting for me when I get home today.I have many friends who were at that show.Im sitting here maybe 15 mins away from where the concert took place.
Jak