Elvis Himselvis

[0349054]

Elvis Presley was one of the, if not the greatest recording artist of all time.

While much has been said about him since he died, there are things which grab the publics attention more than others.

In the run up to his 30th Anniversary I will look at some of these. Briefly before I go into depth on each of these topics, I will describe them.


* Elvis's weight - a talking point which generates great interest in the media, usually due to the fact they can back up their claims with photgraphic evidence - and the King's love for Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - not to forget the trip in the Lisa Marie, simply to get food. I will go into this topic in detail later on TCB-World.com as I will all topics. I shall tackle this from the point that Elvis did carry excess weight, however it was due to a number of reasons, especially in the latter years, primarially due to his abuse of prescription medication.


* Elvis's drugs - the media love the King's use of prescription and illegal narcotics. I will go into Elvis's use of both illegal and prescription medication.


* Elvis's death - Faked, cover-up or simply due to an ill man dying. I know which one I agree with, and will talk about Elvis's death, funeral, burial and re-burial.


* Desert Storm - What exactly happened that night in Augsut 74' and why....


* EPE, the current state of the company and the what the future may hold...





Basically I will examine certain areas of Elvis's life that are what can be called controversial. The media of course will be looking at the above areas with intense interest in the run up to Elvis's death. It is important to discuss these things and to highlight Elvis. Fans are really not that interesting ( no offence guys ), Joe Public wants to know about Elvis not about Elvis Impersonators or over zealous fans during the anniversay. If they get stuck, they may print, broadcast etc....things of this nature.....which is a pity as it makes Elvis turn into a type of cult, consisting of many disparate elements some of which and some people who claim to be Elvis fans are quite disturbing in the way they act, behave and conduct their business.

For the record I do not agree with EPE's impersonator contest.

Well I hope ye do enjoy them once I begin posting.

[Dudcowboy_1]

Well I agree on most. I for myself being Elvis Tribute Artist/ Impersonator what ever you want to call us. I think it great idea EPE finally did step in. I could have done Country music if I wanted but since I loved Elvis and I wanted to do something to show my love to him. I've been doing it now for 4 years now and met a lot of his family members and friend that I think if I wasn't in business I would not have gotten to know on personal level. So I think it was great because they might wing out the JOKES and ones that make MOCKERY out of it. For me I take a lot of time and money into my show in past 4 years I think I've put almost $40,000.00 just in stage lights, and sound and etc. Am I braggin Idon't know but it was worth every penny that I spent. When a Elvis Fan comes up to me and says Thank You For bring back so many memories. The greatest memory I have doing this is a 7 year old boy coming in with baggy pants and his hat on sideways. His mother came up to me and said this is my son and I brought him here to show him different kinds of music other than Rap. 3 1/2 hours later the little boy comes up to me and says "You know I listen to rap, but I think that Elvis music is really awesome I'm going have my mommy pick me up a CD."
THAT THE REASON why I do this.

But it comes being in part of the business, you have people that like us or hate us. But until you really get to know that Elvis Impersonator don't judge them because you have no idea why they are doing this and meaning behind it. You can usually tell which ones love Elvis and which ones just to do to make Joke out of it.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[diamond]

Elvis Presley was one of the, if not the greatest recording artist of all time.

While much has been said about him since he died, there are things which grab the publics attention more than others.

In the run up to his 30th Anniversary I will look at some of these. Briefly before I go into depth on each of these topics, I will describe them.


* Elvis's weight - a talking point which generates great interest in the media, usually due to the fact they can back up their claims with photgraphic evidence - and the King's love for Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - not to forget the trip in the Lisa Marie, simply to get food. I will go into this topic in detail later on TCB-World.com as I will all topics. I shall tackle this from the point that Elvis did carry excess weight, however it was due to a number of reasons, especially in the latter years, primarially due to his abuse of prescription medication.


* Elvis's drugs - the media love the King's use of prescription and illegal narcotics. I will go into Elvis's use of both illegal and prescription medication.


* Elvis's death - Faked, cover-up or simply due to an ill man dying. I know which one I agree with, and will talk about Elvis's death, funeral, burial and re-burial.


* Desert Storm - What exactly happened that night in Augsut 74' and why....


* EPE, the current state of the company and the what the future may hold...





Basically I will examine certain areas of Elvis's life that are what can be called controversial. The media of course will be looking at the above areas with intense interest in the run up to Elvis's death. It is important to discuss these things and to highlight Elvis. Fans are really not that interesting ( no offence guys ), Joe Public wants to know about Elvis not about Elvis Impersonators or over zealous fans during the anniversay. If they get stuck, they may print, broadcast etc....things of this nature.....which is a pity as it makes Elvis turn into a type of cult, consisting of many disparate elements some of which and some people who claim to be Elvis fans are quite disturbing in the way they act, behave and conduct their business.

For the record I do not agree with EPE's impersonator contest.

Well I hope ye do enjoy them once I begin posting.

Hurry up Numbers------- I can't wait :lmfao: ;)

[0349054]

Well I agree on most. I for myself being Elvis Tribute Artist/ Impersonator what ever you want to call us. I think it great idea EPE finally did step in. I could have done Country music if I wanted but since I loved Elvis and I wanted to do something to show my love to him. I've been doing it now for 4 years now and met a lot of his family members and friend that I think if I wasn't in business I would not have gotten to know on personal level. So I think it was great because they might wing out the JOKES and ones that make MOCKERY out of it. For me I take a lot of time and money into my show in past 4 years I think I've put almost $40,000.00 just in stage lights, and sound and etc. Am I braggin Idon't know but it was worth every penny that I spent. When a Elvis Fan comes up to me and says Thank You For bring back so many memories. The greatest memory I have doing this is a 7 year old boy coming in with baggy pants and his hat on sideways. His mother came up to me and said this is my son and I brought him here to show him different kinds of music other than Rap. 3 1/2 hours later the little boy comes up to me and says "You know I listen to rap, but I think that Elvis music is really awesome I'm going have my mommy pick me up a CD."
THAT THE REASON why I do this.

But it comes being in part of the business, you have people that like us or hate us. But until you really get to know that Elvis Impersonator don't judge them because you have no idea why they are doing this and meaning behind it. You can usually tell which ones love Elvis and which ones just to do to make Joke out of it.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/



You are entitled to do what you want with your life. It doesent mean I have to agree or even like it.

I find Impersnators as being part of the problem that makes Elvis and Elvis's fans a joke among many people.

That is my opinion, and I am sorry that EPE didn't go and regulate/ban the whole lot of them a few years back. The only reason they kept them was because they can make money off of them. Nice move by EPE to generate income.....at the expense of alienating some of the fans.

I do cringe when I see people walking around Graceland dressed up like Elvis, or going onto a stage looking like him. They must lead very shallow and meaningless lives that they have to pretend to be someone they are not.

That is why I don't like Elvis impersonators. It's my opinion and I will stick to it. If I could have my way I'd ban the whole lot of them.

[0349054]

Hurry up Numbers------- I can't wait :lmfao: ;)


Thanks Diamond. Lets hope I am allowed to express my right to free speech!

[Unchained Melody]

Well everybody has their own opinion and can express that. For me, I do not like them. Yes, I've seem some and it just didn't do it for me. People like this only hurts Elvis' image...(n) I know not all look like that but still, thats what most people think of when talking about ETA's..a fat man in a one piece suite...

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/926/ert0hg.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Note to 0349054.

Whilst I appreciate all that you have to offer regarding the above topics, I would remind you of how certain topics have become inflamed over recent weeks! I would kindly ask that everybody keeps their opinions to the subject at hand and treat others how we would like to be treated. (y)

Moderating Team

[0349054]

There is a widespread assumtpion here, especially among the moderators that certain people are especially vulnerable to offence and should be protected by an abnormally thick wall of respect, in a different class than other users of the site are protected.

If these people persist in acting like a fissure fungus by disrupting threads and making outlandish statements I will continue to insult them as long as they act disrespectful towards me and other users of the site.

I shall also continue, if they send disparaging private messages to members who I know.

[srj1967]

I find impersonators as being part of the problem that makes Elvis and Elvis's fans a joke among many people.

I do cringe when I see people walking around Graceland dressed up like Elvis, or going onto a stage looking like him. They must lead very shallow and meaningless lives that they have to pretend to be someone they are not.

That is why I don't like Elvis impersonators. It's my opinion and I will stick to it. If I could have my way I'd ban the whole lot of them.

Hear, hear!! (y)

[Wild_In_The_Country]

i dont think the problems lays withy tribute artists only a a few disrespectful ones.

im a song writer and singer,
http://media.putfile.com/Reason-For-Living-46

http://media.putfile.com/Better-Day-21

my songs, and my singing, also i do elvis for charity, and i DONT think i am elvis, i am me, and i am special, EVERYONE is special in their own way, i would not want to be elvis, i love the man, but he was UNIQUE.
Every penny i make from singing elvis goes to cancer research. as i dont want to make a penny of of elvis' back or achievments,
i do elvis in the most respectful way i can, i stay in shape, and i have been on vocal training from a young age. i am 20 and i portray a 20 yeaold elvis when i do elvis. sometimesa i may do ttwii, but thats elvis in his prime. slim and healthy.

Elvis' drug use.
I think many enveyous people write bad things about elvis, because of what he achived. when the beetles take drugs its COOL, when elvis does itsa shoking and wrong. its double standards.
No person has the right to judge elvis. everyone has their flaws, but i think with elvis, the good out weighs the bad.

[Dudcowboy_1]

Amen to Jumpsuit Junkie....

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[0349054]

This goes to prove to my point.


Seeing as no one here has disproved my assertion that Elvis Impersonators are little more than hideous embarrassments to Elvis Presley's legacy, it is intolerable presumption for anyone here to doubt it or for any restraint to be placed upon my views as I have thus expressed them.

If for some reason one of these Impersonators was to take a grave insult to my comments, it would trouble me not. The challenge is for these white clothed vermin in the Elvis world to prove what, if any worth they actually have, rather than hiding behind hollow claims of discrimination.

Discrimation does not cover things relating to individual merit like skill, ability or personal achievement, and therefore it is these lacking characteristics in the majority of Impersonators which I have disdain for.

The overwhelming factor being that in my opinion they should be given psychiatric assistance, for their behaviour is far from what society accepts as 'normal'.

[Suspicious Minds]

Well everybody has their own opinion and can express that. For me, I do not like them. Yes, I've seem some and it just didn't do it for me. People like this only hurts Elvis' image...(n) I know not all look like that but still, thats what most people think of when talking about ETA's..a fat man in a one piece suite...

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/926/ert0hg.png (http://imageshack.us)


If that's an impersonator of Elvis then I will not go to any shows. That's a disgrace to Elvis himself. I don't like impersonators anyway.

(n) (n) (n)

[Dudcowboy_1]

No that picture been around for years. It was taken in vegas at Elvis Meet just a fan trying think what he thought was right.

As for me I take a lot a pride and don't feel sorry for me. Last time I checked I was still Tim Dudley, on and off stage. Plus loving Wife that supports me who hated Elvis Impersonators but now loves the good ones. Same goes for my mother-in-law. Only difference I do have Dyed black hair, sideburns and a REPLICA jumpsuit. To pay tribute to the singer I loved that helped me for the good and bad times of my life.

Plus all the Elvis fans I've become friends with like Big Boss Man, Rickster, Jumpsuit Junkie, Dovey, Tilly, and ones not on the group and Sandi Pichon and Patty Perry to name few. Means to world to me with love and support. They never judged someone just because they are a Impersonator. Some should follow in their footsteps. These are good people..:D :hug:

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Plus loving Wife that supports me!

married at 22? :supriced:

[Dudcowboy_1]

Yepper, my grandparents raised me and told me I would know when she was the one. I will find picture of her and I thoughter put it on here.

Your friend,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[Wild_In_The_Country]

married at 22? :supriced:

im 20 and married :cold:

[MauriceColgan]

I was 17 When I got married SEPTEMBER 26 1959. :cold: :cold: (y) :)

[EP6873]

No that picture been around for years. It was taken in vegas at Elvis Meet just a fan trying think what he thought was right.

As for me I take a lot a pride and don't feel sorry for me. Last time I checked I was still Tim Dudley, on and off stage. Plus loving Wife that supports me who hated Elvis Impersonators but now loves the good ones. Same goes for my mother-in-law. Only difference I do have Dyed black hair, sideburns and a REPLICA jumpsuit. To pay tribute to the singer I loved that helped me for the good and bad times of my life.

Plus all the Elvis fans I've become friends with like Big Boss Man, Rickster, Jumpsuit Junkie, Dovey, Tilly, and ones not on the group and Sandi Pichon and Patty Perry to name few. Means to world to me with love and support. They never judged someone just because they are a Impersonator. Some should follow in their footsteps. These are good people..:D :hug:

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1

I agree, there are many Tribute Artists who do good job. I've seen some videos of some (like Todd Luxton and Martin Fontaine) who do it well, and others who are an insult. If you like what you do, go for it!

[Elvis2Fan]

Im looking forward to reading some of these things. As for impersnators i dont know many but i didnt like the ones i saw.

[Sonny]

I usually do not like impersonators but I can say that the guy from "Rockin On Heavens Door" does a pretty serious and good job.

Sonny

[Dudcowboy_1]

EP Thank you so much for your kind words. I try my best here is my webpage. http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[Elvis2Fan]

:P I'm looking forward to hearing the comments from that numbers guy. I don't like Impersonators, actually I really dislike the whole lot of them. All they care about is Money, if they care about anything else let them donate the money they make, all of it to charity!:P

[MauriceColgan]

:P I'm looking forward to hearing the comments from that numbers guy. I don't like Impersonators, actually I really dislike the whole lot of them. All they care about is Money, if they care about anything else let them donate the money they make, all of it to charity!:P

Interesting. How can you really dislike people you have never met?

I have met some very pleasant Elvis impersonators. I wouldn't buy their records :) But live and let live was Elvis's take on entertainers.

A great many Impersonators and Tribute artists actually do Raise hundreds of thousands of Euros/dollars for a variety of charities.

Charity. Have you tried it?

[Sonny]

Come on guys, let's not get personal here right.

Everybody's opinion is welcome, but no things like you just posted Maurice (like, Charity, have you tried it...no need for that!)

Anyway this is the last warning that's being posted as well!

Sonny

[Phinner]

Well Im an Elvis Tribute Artist/Impersonator In Missouri and there is nothing wrong with keeping Elvis memory alive. And Elvis Tribute Artist/Impersonator do just that, So don't judge us till you here us.





Phinner



"Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.freespaces.com/elvistribute/Index.html

[JDD]

I usually do not like impersonators but I can say that the guy from "Rockin On Heavens Door" does a pretty serious and good job.

Sonny




I watched a show on the Documentry channel called "Almost Elvis" about
one of the Impersonator or Tribute artists contests, and the folks doing it, most seemed like a good bunch of guys, who loved Elvis and honestly felt like they were trying to keep the Memory alive. Nothing wrong with that, but its not something I'd buy a ticket for myself. Granted that I'm not much for crowds these days but I'd be more likely to just pop in a tape of as the title of the thread says Elvis Himselves.

[Mr.Aron77]

:P I'm looking forward to hearing the comments from that numbers guy. I don't like Impersonators, actually I really dislike the whole lot of them. All they care about is Money, if they care about anything else let them donate the money they make, all of it to charity!:P

Agree with you entirely!

[poormansgold]

Here we do again JUdgement anothers what they are or do in life This is 3th time I say this on here.
THe Real Judgement Will be we leave from this place and that judgement will
be hard one or nice one, it's base on we do in life,
I know this not right place not to post it, long we say things judgement or judge. I will put my feeling about judgement, because I was judge by my own family,
Me and Tim know like be judge, He is nice person, he love Elvis and he like he does.
he not in for money, there another do for money.
Tom

[Mr.Aron77]

I'm not really into the whole God Almighty thing.

Religion has caused more problems for this planet than any other single thing.

Frankly I don't think i will be judged if there is a God.

[vulcandude]

Personally, I think that most of the impersonators do a fine job in tribute to our beloved Elvis, (as I'm sure Tim does), but I have also seen ones who are downright disrespectful by depicting Elvis overweight and whatnot. I do not believe impersonators should be banned, I feel under the right regulations by EPE, impersonators can only serve to help keep Elvis' memory alive.
There will be many things the media will cover during this year that marks the 30th anniversary of his death, but to assume they will cover only certain aspects about Elvis as mentioned by the numbers guy at the start of this thread would be to underestimate the impact this anniversary truly has. It has been 30 years....with good and bad things said about Elvis. I'm sticking with just remembering the man and his music because that's what it is all about in the first place......showing love for Elvis.

[jadedragon61]

To be frank, I do think most of the EP impersonators I've seen were, in one way or another, offensive to EP's memory. I've certainly never seen one that I liked. In fact, I might go so far as to say I kind of think these characters are sort of cracked in the head.

But, what's to be done? EP was such a phenomenon that some downright nutty stuff is bound to occur. I just ignore these people.

What I actually get upset about are little nasty references, here and there, in the media. For example, does any remember Mulder (X-Files) finding the newspaper reporting EP's death? I've forgotten the episode name, but that entire episode was OFFENSIVE, and the worst part was that newspaper.

Stuff like that should be roundly booed and flatly condemned.

But as for EP impersonators, I just can't take these guys seriously, in any way, shape, or form.

TCB
Bob

[tilly01]

Sonny i know the guy you are on about his name is richard atkins and he is fab i have seen him 5 times 4 times with rockinonheavonsdoor and once by himself he is a very decent guy and he is good to his fans

[ukfan]

I enjoy seeing tribute shows and have met many tribute artists. I think there is a place for tribute to Elvis' music. To each his own,however.

[Dovey]

I agree with above post(y) (y) 100% ... Well said!!! Dovey ;)

[Snagglepuss]

I'd say 95% of impersonators are bad because #1 they dont look like him & never will. & no one can sound like him. Maybe a slim 5% pull him off. I did see a good one in Hawaii. But he still couldnt compare. No one can.

[Diane]

I agree Snagglepuss, most imitators are pretty bad and give Elvis a bad image but we have to remember that there are a few out there that do try to do justice to him, don't try to pretend they are him and do feel they are doing him a tribute.

[Diane]

I agree Snagglepuss, most imitators are pretty bad and give Elvis a bad image but we have to remember that there are a few out there that do try to do justice to him, don't try to pretend they are him and do feel they are doing him a tribute. And to conclude, you're right no one can even come close to him.

[Snagglepuss]

Impersonators will always give the King a bad name.

[Phinner]

Impersonators will always give the King a bad name.



How do you figure that?

[Mr.Aron77]

Cos they look stupid. No section of society gives them respect and lumps Elvis fans into the weirdo category with Impersonators!

[Lisarose]

Elvis's weight - a talking point which generates great interest in the media, usually due to the fact they can back up their claims with photgraphic evidence - and the King's love for Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - not to forget the trip in the Lisa Marie, simply to get food. I will go into this topic in detail later on TCB-World.com as I will all topics. I shall tackle this from the point that Elvis did carry excess weight, however it was due to a number of reasons, especially in the latter years, primarially due to his abuse of prescription medication.

I'm amazed that there is such attention to Elvis's weight. He was large at the end of his career, but he wasn't morbidly obese. He certainly wasn't as big as some of his "bodyguards" There are many popular actors/singers today who are just as heavy if not heavier than he was at that time. He had lousy eating habits. Who doesn't? He didn't apologize for that, not did he throw it in anyone's face. I look at the many photos of Elvis in performance in those later years - just between engagements the "weight" issue is almost evident. It's bloating - sometimes he's very bloated, sometimes he looks good. Prescription meds well have that effect. Read the label on a plain ole bottle of Tylenol. I don't recall that this big a fuss was made when Frank Sinatra gained weight during his middle aged years. I don't hear Jack Black getting a lot of flack about his weight. Elvis was a genius in his music. His singing cheers me up immediately. That's all I need to know.:clap: :clap:

[Lisarose]

Btw 0349054 - good topic starter - hope you get around to discussing the rest of them!

[srj1967]

Btw 0349054 - good topic starter - hope you get around to discussing the rest of them!

Not much chance of that, Lisarose. He's been banned from the site. (n)

[vulcandude]

To say all Elvis impersonators/tribute artists are bad would be akin to saying all of Elvis' movies were bad. And as far as I can tell, our very own Tim Dudley puts on a fine show.

[Dudcowboy_1]

David, why thank you means world to me coming from Elvis fan.

Take care my friend!

Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[Snagglepuss]

Here is a link to an Elvis Impersonator. He's pretty descent.:king:

http://www.donnyedwards.net/index.html

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

im 20 and married :cold:

Wow, i was a bit more selfish and dated the girls for quite a while, i got married at 27 :)

How was Elvis when he got married :P

[jadedragon61]

When certain people or groups nag on and on about EP's later weight probs, or that some of the films were not good, or any of the comments that by now are cliche EP nags, my feeling has always been that these people are just trying to find fault with a great man, a superior individual. IOW, they just want to find fault with a man who was so talented, so beyond anything they are OR EVEN CAN IMAGINE.

I usually feel sorry for these neagative people: they can't appreciate greatness and feel some connection wit that, but only feel threatened and want to somehow tear it down.

The worst of the worst, however, like that guy Goldman who wrote that crap book about EP (and another one on Bruce Lee) are sick to the point of being pathological. These types are flat disgusting.

To hell with these neagative *****s. EP was a great talent, and a fine man. He had faults - for which I love him too!!!

[Mr.Aron77]

When certain people or groups nag on and on about EP's later weight probs, or that some of the films were not good, or any of the comments that by now are cliche EP nags, my feeling has always been that these people are just trying to find fault with a great man, a superior individual. IOW, they just want to find fault with a man who was so talented, so beyond anything they are OR EVEN CAN IMAGINE.

I usually feel sorry for these neagative people: they can't appreciate greatness and feel some connection wit that, but only feel threatened and want to somehow tear it down.

The worst of the worst, however, like that guy Goldman who wrote that crap book about EP (and another one on Bruce Lee) are sick to the point of being pathological. These types are flat disgusting.

To hell with these neagative *****s. EP was a great talent, and a fine man. He had faults - for which I love him too!!!



There is a worrying trend among some Elvis fans to believe that Elvis was some type of Messianic diety. Elvis was a man, a talented man, but a man none the less.

[Mr.Aron77]

Not much chance of that, Lisarose. He's been banned from the site. (n)



Why is he banned? Sure would be better to have informative posts rather than hearing about Impersonator adulation!

[JDD]

Why is he banned? Sure would be better to have informative posts rather than hearing about Impersonator adulation!

Just a guess, but , If you read back in the beginning of this thread it appears he ignored the Moderators request .

[Dudcowboy_1]

JDD I think your right *light goes on above his head.* Only time I would get mad if I personally got attacked on here or etc.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[jadedragon61]

Here is a link to an Elvis Impersonator. He's pretty descent.:king:

http://www.donnyedwards.net/index.html

True, he's better than most of these guys I've seen. Still, I can't imagine why I'd want to listen to him. To be fair, he's really not that bad...if you want that kind of thing.

[jadedragon61]

There is a worrying trend among some Elvis fans to believe that Elvis was some type of Messianic diety. Elvis was a man, a talented man, but a man none the less.

Which is just my point: I appreciate his talent, and can sympathize with his faults. I can gain something from both.

However, to be totally fair, we need to be careful not to confuse the Man with the Artist. EP had many faults as a man; I would say, however, in regard to his early and later career, his faults as an artist were very few (n.b., I'm not including the film work, which I can't take seriously).