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MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 04:27 AM

Intelligent articles about Elvis are not commented on and receive little attention whereas nonsense is debated at length.

Therefore when Elvis dies again where are they going to bury him?

What will he die off? Old age or exasperation:)

Will he remember me in his Will now his estate is earning such a huge sum?

The questions the question.

Frankie Laine has a webpage and answers my email so here goes...........oops do any of you "in the Know" have an email address????????

As they say in the UK, this is a Dead good thread! :) :) :)

masterbret

01-12-2007, 05:33 AM

Elvis died in 1977 and therefor can not die again, i have no idea where this is coming from but elvis is already dead, the only place he is alive is in our hearts and in his legacy

jak

01-12-2007, 05:56 AM

MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 06:07 AM

jak, may I remind you "50,000,000 Elvis fans cannot be wrong", but a few loonies can be totally wrong:)

Believe me, Elvis's music is quite safe. As long as people admire the beauty of the human voice Elvis will be well represented.

I have apprentices learning the ropes...our grandchildren. They will be replying to your counterparts in the future:)

Jumpsuit Junkie

01-12-2007, 10:41 AM

daised & confused :blink:

MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 11:32 AM

daised & confused :blink:

Fear not, I have not lost my marbles:) Elvis is of course dead.

The Elvis is alive brigade have people wasting their valuable time replying to them. I want them to answer my questions so they are wasting more of THEIR time.

Just a little fun till they go away.
If only they would spend time reading Daniel Wolff's excellent piece on Careless Love and AYLT.

elpfan

01-12-2007, 12:39 PM

Fear not, I have not lost my marbles:) Elvis is of course dead.

Ok, no problems then Maurice . . . the platform is yours. I welcome your proof. Please, in detail, adequately clarify for all the "loonies" - (no matter how intelligent, educated, and thoughtful such "loonies" may be) that the death was not faked.

The Elvis is alive brigade have people wasting their valuable time replying to them. I want them to answer my questions so they are wasting more of THEIR time.

I think that most everyone makes their own choice to answer whichever threads they find interesting on message forums . . . just because you don't find a topic interesting or worthy, doesn't mean someone else would not. I'm just not sure it's your job to determine that anyone is wasting the time of anyone else.

Just a little fun till they go away.
If only they would spend time reading Daniel Wolff's excellent piece on Careless Love and AYLT.

Fun . . . ?

Maurice, when is the last time that an informed, well-read, and clearly intelligent poster - who happens to "think" this theory is plausible - resorted to calling YOU or anyone else names . . . because you happen to not believe the theory? (Sure, the true undergrounders can be awful, but I clarified to whom I am referring). Funny, all the intelligent responses I've ever read on this topic were just that, never nasty or low . . . but the true nastiness seems to emanate from the "fans" who think Elvis owed them everything and that it's ludicrous to think he could've and would've taken such extreme measures to "escape" from a lifestyle that was clearly detrimental to his health and sanity.

MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 01:28 PM

elpfan, I have read and seen just about all the most famous conspiracy theories Like the JFK assasssination etc. I've read the Elvis death cover up too.

Your arguements join the Yuri Geller variety...off course he bent those spoons and remotely stopped watches hundreds of miles away. Witnesses swear to it! Sane rational people all of them.

Once upon a time Leprechauns and banshees inhabited this island and thousands will tell you they still do. Only trouble is after 65 years and travelling many thousands of miles I have not spotted one Pot of Gold under a shamrock tree!

I cannot prove there is no point to life on this doomed planet but that's what I believe. Go figure................very deeply indeed!

ajr

01-12-2007, 01:53 PM

MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 02:10 PM

My, what depressing lives some live .
At such an advanced age & travels so far ;
one might hope that with knowledge one might gain wisdom.
Alas, I guess we must all curl up & die. After all, there's no point in living.

Depressing lives? I only have one not quite finished with yet:lol:

Well the only point seems to be to reproduce just like the other animals.

While we are here we may as well enjoy all the benefits like music, Art, literature, etc.

We can even enjoy baiting those who bait us with silly threads.

The world's a stage and we each must PLAY our part. I'm playing hard to get:lol:

ajr

01-12-2007, 03:05 PM

I am an optimist to my daughter's great sorrow .
To even entertain the opposite seems greatly distressing.
Well, perhaps you'll be allowed another life to "get it right."
One can only hope.

While I enjoy my grandchildren greatly and they all know of Elvis ....it seems that's not quite enough. I believe we were born to do more than to reproduce, no matter how pleasant that might be.

I take it you have no spiritual side to your life ? What a great shock you will find after passing. Well, it's your loss, your "opinion." I believe in free will.

From my point of view, games are for children. So, I refuse to "play a part." Don't you wonder just how your obit shall be written?

" A man that lived only to reproduce .......but, he enjoyed the music ,Art & Literature along the way. Plus, he enjoyed 'playing his role' in the scheme of things ."

Great legacy. Who could ask for more?
I believe you are a fraud ,Mr Colgan
{I'm very good at detecting . Ha !}

MauriceColgan

01-12-2007, 04:15 PM

Yes Sherlock I too have read Conan Doyle:) You appear to not have a clue:lol:

I think the vast majority here can detect the real Fraud.

Our bright grandchildren are the only obit I need to consider I wont be around to see what's carved on stone. Their parents share our views so I guess the spiritualism will be left to those that believe in the stories passed on to them by high priests, Rabbis and Mormon bishops etc?

I remember just before my triple by-pass 3 years ago wondering if I would survive? Did I?

Or did I fake my recovery:lol: You believe in ghosts don't you:lol: :lol: :lol:

ajr

01-12-2007, 05:41 PM

I believe in the spititual side of life.
You may laugh at that too, if you like.
Just because one laughs, doesn't mean they don't believe
or that something isn't true.
Most are just afraid of others laughing at them.
It hurts, not one bit, I promise. ;)

It is you that must tell me if you survived your triple by-pass.
It was my job to work in that occupation for many years.
It appears that your body has survived.
Now, if there was a way to fix the rest.

I think you'll have a pleasant {or unpleasant } surprise awaiting you.
God speed and have a pleasant journey. :)

Jumpsuit Junkie

01-12-2007, 06:44 PM

ajr

01-12-2007, 07:04 PM

It would be well for all of us to take your advice .

Consider it done . ;) :)

elpfan

01-12-2007, 07:07 PM

to ajr & Maurice

I would like to intervene in this post before strong words are spoken softly!

Opinions are always sought, personal attacks are not.

Please play nice otherwise the thread will have to be closed (y)

Matt

If I may, Matt . . . Please note the posters who have blatantly attacked by using words like "stupid" and "loonies" and so forth . . . what right have they to use such insults simply because others hold opinions they themselves do not?

Thanks.

elpfan

01-12-2007, 08:38 PM

elpfan, I have read and seen just about all the most famous conspiracy theories Like the JFK assasssination etc. I've read the Elvis death cover up too.

Then you should know there is compelling evidence available that can be, (if chosen), legitimately be debated. However, each individual is (should be) free to remain neutral, or take a firm stand on one side or the other of any chosen debate.

Your arguements join the Yuri Geller variety...off course he bent those spoons and remotely stopped watches hundreds of miles away. Witnesses swear to it! Sane rational people all of them.

Sorry, my arguments do not . . . (I really don't believe Geller has such ability); assuredly though, my points about the "did he or did he not fake his death" debate have NOTHING to do with witnesses who swear they saw him at the Burger King in Kalamazoo or other such nonsense.

Once upon a time Leprechauns and banshees inhabited this island and thousands will tell you they still do. Only trouble is after 65 years and travelling many thousands of miles I have not spotted one Pot of Gold under a shamrock tree!

And you can say the same about E after 8/16/77 . . . I'm surprised by the naive quality exhibited in such a statement . . . because you've never seen them, does not mean they did not or do not exist.

I cannot prove there is no point to life on this doomed planet but that's what I believe. Go figure................very deeply indeed!

I looked back over the thread, but this puzzles me . . . did I ask you to "prove there is no point to life on this doomed planet"?

I DID ask you to provide proof of something you so clearly state as fact - that being that Elvis Presley is dead . . . but still, I read no substantial evidence, much less proof.

The fact is, you cannot prove he is dead anymore than the theorists can prove he is alive.

Really, I'm not here to state this theory with certainty one way or the other; I just think it's remarkable that so many fans say - in such a factual manner - that he didn't fake his death, but they simply refuse to provide evidence which supports their statement. All they really have are things like "so and so said it wasn't faked" or "so and so said she called so and so when it happened" or "so and so found him" or . . . well, you get the gist . . . it goes on and on, these "credible" sources of the supposed truth. Others do offer bits and pieces of evidence, and that's fine - I'm willing to consider most all points, unless they are completely without rationale or even a slightly educated insight.

I do expect both sides of this debate or any conspiracy theory type of debate to provide evidence and/or hypothetical for-instances, and in the course of such, it can be determined whether or not it is legitimate or merely a toss-aside bearing no merit.

Of course, no one is forced to participate in any debate.

elpfan

01-12-2007, 08:45 PM

one might hope that with knowledge one might gain wisdom.

It seems the maddened masses of our microcosm have no inclination to do so . . .

Andreea21

01-13-2007, 05:28 AM

I think that Elvis is dead and his life as we know it ended in 1977. I choose to believe so because I trust in the word of his family and of his friends and for many other reasons that all of us know. More than that, I think that the soul of Elvis is somewhere in the spiritual world, because I believe too that our life does not end when our body dies.
And it's true, ajr, that one might hope that with knowledge one might gain wisdom! Life in general makes us understand a lot of things, one year after another.

MauriceColgan

01-13-2007, 05:34 AM

Obviously this thread like the "Did Elvis fake his death" version is going nowhere.

I'm content to see it locked. Sorry if I offended anyone with my wicked sense of humour.

Back to Elvis's music.

Andreea21

01-13-2007, 06:45 AM

I don't think you offended anyone with your sense of humour! Don't worry! ;)
I think that everyone would be very happy if Elvis would be alive and if he could talk with us about his music and about his life...and about his death:king:. And yes, he could die (again), but this time because of his old age.
But you would forgive him for not telling us for such o long time that he was alive? Our world is a little less beautiful without him!