Elvis Fans killing new releases????????

[mn-designs]

If you read some forums and reviews of all the latest releases by BMG or FTD than you can imaging that the big chiefs will stop releasing high quality cd's and dvd's..
Really some fans are always complaining about something- or the covers or content or sound-..
For us designers it's not a way of complaining (the remake of covers), but to try to do it better with matching pictures and information.
I think when we continue to burn down all the stuff that's released by bmg/ftd that they stop releasing the better stuff (like the latest dvd's and cd's) and that we end up with lot's of releases like 30 #1 hits, and that most people Elvis only know by Jailhouse Rock, Hound Dog ect..
So please give the companies some credit and write something postive! that's the only way to keep the great releases coming from BMG/FTD!.

[EAP_2005]

I agree, Patrick. I certainly have no complaints about the releases we get from BMG. The amount of new material we get to hear now, when compared to the 1980's, is fabulous.

The sound quality of recent releases such as 'Elvis at Sun', 'Recorded live on stage in Memphis' & 'Close Up' is a joy to listen too. :D

I don't think there's anything wrong with constructive criticism, as I think it enabled BMG to hear what the fans wanted - but credit where credits due, things are very good for Elvis fans in 2004. (y)

[NightRider]

Some complaints are warranted...that much is certain, but i do agree that the amout of complaints is un-deserved and indeed un-fair on BMG/FTD.

I agree they are as a whole there are terrific releases coming out of BMG compared to what we used to get in years gone by. All i say as a word of caution is...don't go over the top in the praise if it is not deserved. If they make mistakes say so...but people must keep it real. (y)

[mn-designs]

It's good to see that i'm not alone on this matter :clap:
And yes we were getting some below standars releases a few years back but Ernst and his staff and the all the people from EPE are doing the best they can these days and that's putting out some of the best releases we had in a long, long time!
And we were a little spoiled by the amazing sound of the 30 #1 hits, it's still is the best sounding cd out there, better in my opnion than 2nd to none..that was a fine sounding cd also..keep them coming!

[E.L.V.I.S]

very true patrick however,

Elvis fans have been complaining about rca releases for years now yet that seems not to bother them.Can we truthfully say that rca dont deserve the bad comments :hmm: ,they do deserve them :angry: .Basically in modern times the record companies have became more concerned about the money then the artist them selves.Why is the reason they wont give us a official release of '77?
because they are worried it will decrese Elvis' popularity and sales,they dont think of the fans who have been just that for many years now they just think about those people who arent fans,and if you can prove otherwise id like to here it....Yes FTD have given us the most fantastic releases of modern times ,i dont have a problem with them its RCA i got a problem with.They should stop aiming Elvis towards people who arent Elvis fans and start aiming towards those that are :angry: ,aron.

[curtis simpkins]

Heck

i buy anything on Elvis, and i don't really care about the cover, just the music
that count's.

sometimes i reather just have the song text much bigger, on back of the cd cover, so we can read them so much better.

[E.L.V.I.S]

curtis i thought you once said the reason i love viynl is the fact the cover was bigger and you could look at the picture on the cover etc???? :blink: ,aron.

[Lonniebealestreet]

I agree with most of what's been said here.

The criticism leveled at BMG is for the most part way over the top, but there are some legitimate reasons to complain.

The biggest one I can think of is the overall handling of the Elvis catalogue. First of all, a lot of the releases, or the titles kept active, are redundant while so much other great music can no longer be found. So there doesn't seem to be too much method to the madness. But the thing that bothers me the most about it is the apparent lack of faith the powers that be have in selling Elvis to non-fans (which has to be considered if you want to keep his popularity up over the years) on his music which was not in the top 40 or whatever, and images of him which were not from the fifties, the Comeback Special, TTWII, or Aloha.

Just to pick a title out of the air, who here does not think a song like Goodtime Charlie's Got The Blues deserves a spot on a heavily promoted E1/E2-like project? And what about all the great images of him in the post-Aloha period like those we've seen on this website? I think they need to do some market research or something, because I think they are missing out on opportunities to draw in a whole new kind of audience.

[E.L.V.I.S]

Just to pick a title out of the air, who here does not think a song like Goodtime Charlie's Got The Blues deserves a spot on a heavily promoted E1/E2-like project?
this is what i mean when i say they aim their releases at non-elivis fans.Yep for sure we want to keep the popularity growing however each of rca's releases seem to be for non-elvis fans.They on the odd occasions give us a couple of nice rare releases,e.g aloha new dvd,today,tomorrow and forever etc etc.....however these are just either boxsets or limited editions which cost a ton.The thing that i laugh about is how they are offended when Elvis fans buy themselves a un-official import cd/bootleg,WHAT DO THEY EXPECT? :angry: elvis fans want something new,aron.

[Albert]

I am not complaining about FTD releases. But I do think some things could have been better. However, I see every FTD release as a treat for the fans. There's not one FTD CD that I regret buying.

But I am NOT happy the way BMG keeps marketing Elvis towards the mass audience. And as long as they keep thinking that they (the mass audience) only want the 50's-early 60's Elvis and 'Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel' pictures, I will continue my crusade. There much more Elvis to give to the world. The big sales of 'ALLC', 'Rubberneckin', the Aloha en NBC DVD's prove my right.

Just look at this and any other forum, and in big lines you can say that the older fans (the ones that grew up in the 50's with Elvis) like the 50s and early 60's, but that the new fans (discovered Elvis through their parents, mostly after Elvis' death), prefer the older Elvis. I believe that the post '67 Elvis connects better with modern times.

[E.L.V.I.S]

Just look at this and any other forum, and in big lines you can say that the older fans (the ones that grew up in the 50's with Elvis) like the 50s and early 60's, but that the new fans (discovered Elvis through their parents, mostly after Elvis' death), prefer the older Elvis. I believe that the post '67 Elvis connects better with modern times

ok heres an example:

i walk into my room to play a little elvis whats the first cd i play.....a 70's one,YOU HERE THAT RCA A 70'S ONE.i mean yep the ladies in modern times find 50's elvis sexy and goodlooking but is that the reason that they use this era all the time :blink: ,yep it is.Do they not see times are changing and what people like is to and 70's Elvis is cool,very cool (h) .Why do you think the import/bootleg industrie for elvis is so popular with some fans? because they give out beautiful covers with 70's pictures and 70's content,dont get me wrong guys i love all and every era of the king but isnt the 50's marketed a little too much?Do you know why rca dont dare touch the 70's elvis? because of silly stupid impersontors wearing wigs and crap:angry: ,aron.

[EAP_2005]

I think EPE & BMG/RCA feel a lot has been done in recent years to improve Elvis' standing in the general public's eye, following the very negative press Elvis received following his death, culminating in Albert Goldman's 1981 book 'Elvis'.

I wouldn't blame a casual fan for not believing Elvis did very much after January 14th 1973 - when we know he recorded some of his finest music & turned in some great live performances during the last few years of his life.
As much of a dog lover as I am, what was 'Old Shep' doing on 2001's '50 Greatest Love Songs'? My choice would have been something like 'Lovin Arms' or 'Sweet Angeline'.

I'm not holding my breath for an official release of 'Elvis in Concert 1977' :whistling as I think the estate would be very nervous it would go against the image they wish to promote - but I do hope they might make it available one day via collector's outlets. :unsure:

[Albert]

@ Aron: most of the girls I know prefer the "NBC Elvis" over the "Teddy Bear Elvis" from 1956-1958.

[E.L.V.I.S]

@ Aron: most of the girls I know prefer the "NBC Elvis" over the "Teddy Bear Elvis" from 1956-1958
;) ok albert.


I'm not holding my breath for an official release of 'Elvis in Concert 1977' :whistling as I think the estate would be very nervous it would go against the image they wish to promote - but I do hope they might make it available one day via collector's outlets.

i too wont be holding my breath as we would all die of lack of oxygen intake :lol: ,77 is available on the un-official market has been for years but i want it official,and now :angry: :P ,aron.

[NightRider]

Yeah....i gotta agree there....the point that the 70's Elvis is almost a swear word :mad: to standard BMG releases is a valid one.

There are so many missed opportunities especially on the widely released compilations.

Ftd does fair better of course...but why are these not readily available in any high street shop ? Something that has puzzled me since the FTD's began. Because they don't appeal to the general public...well they are not going to be the ones buying them anyhow. :blink:
The Jungle Room Sessions is a prime example. That is one hell of a release :clap: and i am convinced it would have sold big had it had the correct treatment.
But could you see them putting it on general release ? I think not.

The whole stategy of BMG does worry me. Millions of pounds were spent on promoting the Aloha and NBC DVD's...really ?

And then there is the classic pulling of the plug on ALLC.... :angry: when it was at No1..they delete it :nono: what on earth was that about...a certain already has been on the same label.....crazy :angry:

As i have said...when they get it wrong...which they often do with the 70's Elvis...we should say so...but also praise when they get it right.

I have said before in reference to the FTD's...a day will come when the pot is empty....and a sad day that will be. But then what will we be moaning ablout i wonder :hmm:

[curtis simpkins]

curtis i thought you once said the reason i love viynl is the fact the cover was bigger and you could look at the picture on the cover etc???? :blink: ,aron.


Hi aron.

i did said that about vinyl, but on a cd or a cdr i like to read the text, the
text on these cds some time there hard to read them. but on the vinyl
album cover you can read them clear.

but anyway i still buy elvis on cd and vinyl. (y)

[iamhekev]

With the latest news from roger semon,saying that the orig,albums(with outtakes)are in the pipeline to be done,i would like some of this stuff,put out to the main public,so they can hear the man at his best,ie,working up to the master,and that would be eye opener to a lot of people.

I have pals who are amazed that some of the stuff that they like(on stage in memphis,so high,easter special,etc)are not (in the main) in the local shops (n) not all fans have the net,or are getting mag"s etc.

The stuff that bmg/epe has put out,is breathtaking,and this is with out doubt,going to bring in new fans to the fandome,and i hope that the ftd cds,will be out there,and not hidden away,fron public view.




KEV. ;)

[Tom in North Carolina]

The bottom line is that RCA/BMG/EPE are business's built and sustained by profit. Do you honestly think they give a rat's *** what we think of the releases as long as we buy them? If you buy one of their products, you, of course, have the right to say anything you want whether it be positive or negative. However, I seriously doubt whether or not they are going to concern themselves with the fact that you thought you should get take 3 of this or that vs. take 5 as they head to the bank with our money.

Tom

[E.L.V.I.S]

The bottom line is that RCA/BMG/EPE are business's built and sustained by profit. Do you honestly think they give a rat's *** what we think of the releases as long as we buy them? If you buy one of their products, you, of course, have the right to say anything you want whether it be positive or negative. However, I seriously doubt whether or not they are going to concern themselves with the fact that you thought you should get take 3 of this or that vs. take 5 as they head to the bank with our moneycouldnt agree more (y) .FTD are superb have no problem with them but rca/bmg are just all about money as you say.I mean look at a little less single,why was there no video already made before they released the single? they did a rushed job and gave us a very perfetic video instead.Give me one reason why they cant release if i can dream single in the weeks coming,timing is right,they ould use the video from the new dvd and it is just such a great song yet rca seem to show no intrest.Why havent rca had billboard signs and adverts in the press,because they were to tight to pay for it as they didnt believe the new releases would do as well as they did.They cant say they dont have the money to pay for it as surely graceland and other incomes to the elvis estate is enough to pay for such promotions?........:hmm:

[NightRider]

Do you honestly think they give a rat's *** what we think of the releases as long as we buy them?
Tom

Sad but very true :!:

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I agree, on the whole 70's Elvis is treated very poorly, the image of Elvis is handled very poorly, we are in a age where image is everything and sadly the image of Elvis in the 70's is driven by the gutter press :angry: who still publish unflatering images which personify Elvis as overweight. if you look at bands and artists today they have some quirky logo of some kind, hell some companies spend thousands on a corprate image or identy just so they can be recognised.

Elvis is probably the single most copied artist of all time, this is a doubled edged sword, unfortunately there are far to many people of a certain age and weight who do little to ease the minds of RCA/BMG in moving to this period of Elvis' life, there are thousands of pictures of Elvis post Aloha which could be used, in the 70's and 80's they were but few in number. It seems that they wan't to re-write history at any cost, unfortunately life is not that simple and if you decide to erase the last four years of Elvis' life you lose a treasure trove of goodies

EPE are guilty of avoiding the image of Elvis anywhere past 1973 as their site goes to great lengths to limit images from this timeframe.

As for the CBS Special (I have a bootleg DVD) I'm in to minds as to if this should be released :hmm: YES I would love to have a pristine cristal clear version of this but i fear that this image would once again be highjacked by the hacks and journalists into summing up elvis with one Image, he is much, much more than this!!! (I'm sorry :'( as great as he sounds, this is not Elvis' finest hour)

[E.L.V.I.S]

As for the CBS Special (I have a bootleg DVD) I'm in to minds as to if this should be released :hmm: YES I would love to have a pristine cristal clear version of this but i fear that this image would once again be highjacked by the hacks and journalists into summing up elvis with one Image, he is much, much more than this!!! (I'm sorry :'( as great as he sounds, this is not Elvis' finest hour
ok,ask yourself this friends,what is a singer? do we need to look like a hundred dollars to sing.Do you we need to look like a model to sing? nah didnt think so,yet so many seem to slander elvis in '77 even though his singing ability was ever so high.Ok so its not nice seeing elvis look as good looking as he once had been however his voice never failed him.The day fans ,companies and people can see that singers are to listen to not to look at then that mat be the day we get a official copy of 77.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

ok,ask yourself this friends,what is a singer? do we need to look like a hundred dollars to sing.Do you we need to look like a model to sing? nah didnt think so,yet so many seem to slander elvis in '77 even though his singing ability was ever so high.Ok so its not nice seeing elvis look as good looking as he once had been however his voice never failed him.The day fans ,companies and people can see that singers are to listen to not to look at then that mat be the day we get a official copy of 77.


I 100% agree with what you are saying (y) but lets not fool ourself that the image does not count, Elvis was all about image, be it 33 films or Jumpsuits and cars, what pictures do we see in the tabloids not the one of Elvis looking cool, but the one where he is not 100% (or both), thats because it's easy to critiscise than praise, if a good pictures catch someones eye and they want to read further then that's the picture i would rather use to draw new fans, i don't agree with it, it's just the way people are. I love Elvis :worthy: , people look to find the worst, Elvis was not just about 1977, he was 1935 - 1977, it's just that the CBS Special didn't capture Elvis in good health and i don't want some scumbag getting milage out of it, if there was a way to release this without it being mis-used then release it.

[E.L.V.I.S]

I 100% agree with what you are saying (y) but lets not fool ourself that the image does not count, Elvis was all about image, be it 33 films or Jumpsuits and cars, what pictures do we see in the tabloids not the one of Elvis looking cool, but the one where he is not 100% (or both), thats because it's easy to critiscise than praise, if a good pictures catch someones eye and they want to read further then that's the picture i would rather use to draw new fans, i don't agree with it, it's just the way people are. I love Elvis :worthy: , people look to find the worst, Elvis was not just about 1977, he was 1935 - 1977, it's just that the CBS Special didn't capture Elvis in good health and i don't want some scumbag getting milage out of it, if there was a way to release this without it being mis-used then release it(y) right on matt couldnt agree more,i tell you what this pathetic ,fools,idots impersonators dont help either.Prancing around with wigs and usually all over weight.:angry: .I dare one of them to have ago at seeing jailhosue rock 50's style,ha! they cant,thought not....see matt they need guys like us running epe we would soon kick *** :flex: :lol: (h)

[NightRider]

I agree with you to a certain extent Matt,
sure they probably would have a field day should the cbs special be released :angry: but here is one fan who wants it (y) I have copies of it too and i'm 100% certain that because of the bad quality Elvis looks far worse than he actually was.
Ok, i'm not kidding myself...he was ill and it showed...moreso on Omaha....but if you watch the re-mastered Unchained Melody clip on the great performances it looks a hell of a lot better than any CBS special copy i have ever seen.
As for putting it on generel release like Aloha ans the NBC...(even though that wouldn't bother me)...maybe that wouldn't be the way to go...but putting it out through FTD certainly would.
If i have a problem with these people its the time it takes to get these released. We have finally got the stand up shows from NBC...how many years after the event :blink:
That means that in approx 4 years we may get Elvis On Tour and then in another five after that the CBS special ;) ( If you go by how long it took to get the stand up shows :P )
I have waited for years to get the cbs special. Good, or bad ( and i like it ) it is an event in elvis' career and should be made available to his fans BEFORE we have all popped our cloggs :P

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I completely agree with most of the comments and as an Elvis fan I would like to see the complete works out there for those that choose to buy it!

But when people find out I'm an Elvis fan they instantly make comments about the latter part of Elvis' life with ***** comments like "Have another Beefburger Elvis" I usually reply with F**CKOf* DICKHEAD :angry: Elvis accomplished so much more than this, When i watch the CBS Special it kind of puts a lump in my throat. In the late 70's and during the 80's CBS was used as the rod to which the hacks battered Elvis with, this has dissipated during the 90's and the millennium and we have got back an image of the 68 Special and TTWII, these are the images with which we need to draw new fans by and in time they will get to know the complete Elvis rather than see some negative image and look no further.

In no way do I want to criticise Elvis, he is my childhood hero :worthy: but I have to admit I'd sooner watch Aloha or on tour because CBS makes me feel sad :'( (Music Great) that at a time when Elvis should have been recuperating he was still putting his fans first, to the detrament of his health (what was the colonel thinking?? - probably $$$$$$ and certainly not Elvis)

[NightRider]

But when people find out I'm an Elvis fan they instantly make comments about the latter part of Elvis' life with ***** comments like "Have another Beefburger Elvis" I usually reply with F**CKOf* DICKHEAD :angry: Elvis accomplished so much more than this)

I know what you are saying there mate...i used to ( and still do on on occasions) get that all the time. These people have never even seen ( or even want to ) the true Elvis.
I used to get angry too...but i tend to ignore them now...if they can't see it, its their loss.

Now , if the want talk sensibly about it i am happy to oblige whether they are fans or not :P
You can say whether you like something or not...but to rubbish and ridicule thats a different matter.



he is my childhood hero :worthy:

In that you are not alone mate (y)

[Albert]

I think that pretending Elvis died in 1973 (like BMG/EPE) are doing, does more harm to the total image of Elvis, than to accept that post-Aloha period. And there's still a big difference between releasing more music from the 70s and releasing the CBS Special. ;)

Why is 'Love Me Tender' on every lovesong compilation, and never a song like "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain" or "It's Impossible"? That has nothing to do with the CBS Special, but everything with playing safe. BMG is still making compilations with the charts of the 50's and 60s in their mind. They still don't seem to understand that todays fans and mass audience aren't those fans/audience from the 50's and early 60's.

Come on BMG! Get out of that safety zone and reclaim the world!

[Jungleroom76]

WOW!!!! :blink:

So many great thoughts on this topic....

I personally have bought every single FTD that has been released, and while some I listen to much more than others, every one of them is truly a blessing for Elvis fans....where would we be if we had to depend exclusively on RCA to release all of these unreleased recordings? There would be no NEW YEAR'S EVE, or SPRING TOURS '77, or JUNGLE ROOM SESSIONS...and on some other messageboard (which shall remain nameless ;) ), there is almost constant bashing about each and every FTD that is released! I mean REAL BASHING....not just constructive criticism. I mean, I know I have said some things in the various reviews I posted in the FTD FORUM about the various FTD releases, but I certainly didn't mean for any of my comments to come across as harsh or negative. When I write a review, I try to be objective about the CD...I report what I see, hear, etc. and then I basically let the buyer decide for themselves if they agree with me or not. I just try to give an honest opinion....I'm certainly not trying to bash anyone, especially FTD/Ernst as I know that without them, we would not have nearly as much of these great recordings as we have now! But the true bashing that I see happening on the other aforementioned (but still unnamed) board is just wrong....and to be honest, I have to give FTD/Ernst a lot of credit...if I were them, and read some of the really nasty comments that people have written in other places, I would just throw my hands up in the air and say "that is it!" :!:

As for promotion of Elvis....well, I've said this before, but there really needs to be more promotion of the new releases....I haven't seen one piece of advertisement for ELVIS AT SUN or either of the deluxe edition DVD sets! Not one TV ad, not one magazine ad, NOTHING.....that is truly sad when no one is willing to spend some money to advertise these things, to potentially reach a new audience with the ads, thus increasing the number of people who might buy these new releases!

As far as Elvis' catalog goes with RCA, I still don't quite understand their release strategy. Don't get me wrong...I think the new ELVIS AT SUN CD is quite good, but we just got SUNRISE 4 or 5 years ago...and that was supposed to be the "definitive Sun collection"....so why do we need another one? Instead of deleting SUNRISE from the catalog, just keep it available in record stores for fans to buy and promote it with advertisements...and maybe release a CD single (like they did with THAT'S ALL RIGHT this year)...why must we have another compliation? If I remember correctly, RCA is planning a new LOVE SONGS COMPLIATION for later this year...WHY???? DIdn't we just get 50 GREATEST LOVE SONGS a couple of years ago? Why do we need another one???? The catalog strategy for RCA has always baffled me... :blink:

Elvis post-Aloha....oh my gosh, don't even get me started on this (right Bobby?? ;) ) Suffice to say, I think it's really wrong that EPE refuses to promote Elvis in any way after ALOHA. Elvis recorded so much great music over the last 4 1/2 years of his life, it deserves to be heard....maybe those recordings would bring in a whole new generation of fans....I mean, everyone knows and has probably heard Elvis singing HOUND DOG or JAILHOUSE ROCK, but some person might hear Elvis' version of GOODTIME CHARLIE'S GOT THE BLUES or BLUE EYES CRYING IN THE RAIN, and say to themselves "wow, I didn't know he did that too" and therefore become a fan because they have realized the true scope of Elvis' music....that he isn't just known for HOUND DOG and JAILHOUSE ROCK!!

And finally...ELVIS IN CONCERT...to be honest, unless FTD figures out a way to do a special DVD release of this concert, and knowing EPE's stand on Elvis post-Aloha, I just don't see this coming out anytime soon! It's sad to think about, but unfortunately, I believe we are still YEARS away from any kind of release featuring the '77 footage... :'(

Just some random thoughts/opinions I had on these various topics....this was a GREAT discussion everyone has participated in!! (y)

TCB!
Mike

[NightRider]

WOW!!!! I think it's really wrong that EPE refuses to promote Elvis in any way after ALOHA. Elvis recorded so much great music over the last 4 1/2 years of his life, it deserves to be heard....maybe those recordings would bring in a whole new generation of fans....I mean, everyone knows and has probably heard Elvis singing HOUND DOG or JAILHOUSE ROCK, but some person might hear Elvis' version of GOODTIME CHARLIE'S GOT THE BLUES or BLUE EYES CRYING IN THE RAIN, and say to themselves "wow, I didn't know he did that too" and therefore become a fan because they have realized the true scope of Elvis' music....that he isn't just known for HOUND DOG and JAILHOUSE ROCK!!



TCB!
Mike

Excellent point Mike....its this sort of material that would create more Elvis fans as its the stuff a fair percentage of the non-elvis world have never heard before.
I said in another thread ( somewhere) that a close friend of mine who didn't appreciate elvis' music...soon changed his mind when he heard something different to the norm.
As you say...he thought elvis was only 'don't be cruel','jailhouse rock' or ' are you lonesome tonight'. And not that there is anything wrong with any of those songs....but as the man sung 'there is so much world to see' or hear in this case(y)

[Jungleroom76]

I know what you mean NightRider!

Bobby (Lonniebealestreet) and I have had this discussion many times before, and he has said the same thing....he knew someone who wasn't really an Elvis fan, played them something from Elvis in the later 70's, and BOOM...instant Elvis fan!!!

There are SO many people out there that I run into, in my daily travels, who say to me "gosh, I didn't know Elvis sang that song" when I mention things like "Green, Green Grass of Home" or "Danny Boy". Heck, most of the time when I tell them that Elvis originally recorded "T-R-O-U-B-L-E", they think I am making it up because they thought Travis Tritt was the first person to ever record the song. But, why do these people think that? Why do these people not know that Elvis recorded these songs? Because EPE refuses to promote Elvis in any way, shape or form post-Aloha!

Truly a sad state of affairs, when Elvis' own ESTATE can pick and choose what to promote, instead of just releasing everything he did and let the fans decide for themselves!! :angry:

TCB!
Mike

[New Jam]

A shame indeed, Mike.

I find it's always the music that turns the tide. What I do is get them in my car, plug in my iPod (about 2000 of the song's on it are versions of Elvis tracks :D ) Pick a playlist of 70's songs, by the end of the drive, most have a more positive outlook, on our man.

Just let Elvis speak for himself :!:

Jeff

[Jungleroom76]

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF JEFF!!! ;)

99% of the time, when I am driving to/from work, I grab an Elvis tape or CD from the 70's to listen to!!! Just something about the maturity in his voice and the song material he chose to perform during that last decade....

TCB!
Mike